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Woodson: Packers defense played a lot of “bad football”

Packers' Peprah intercepts a pass against the Chargers in the fourth quarter during their NFL football game in San Diego Reuters

The Packers won their eighth straight game on Sunday in San Diego, but you’d barely know it to hear some of the reaction to the game.

That includes reaction from worrying Packers fans, media, and even the players.

A lot of bad football,” Charles Woodson said in a “somber” ton after the game via Rob Demovsky of the Green Bay Press-Gazette. “I don’t know what it was. Just chalk it up to bad football.”

The Packers defense scored 14 points. They stopped the Chargers twice in the final four minutes of the game.  There were positives, but Woodson didn’t seem to want to hear it.

“We feel like if the ball is in the air, we’ll come up with our fair share, certainly. But how many times are you going to have two interceptions for a touchdown?” Woodson asked.

Cornerback Tramon Williams called it a “bad performance” overall.

“We’re getting wins, but there’s going to be a lot of guys walking around like we got a loss,” said Williams.

That’s a good reaction to have, but let’s not go overboard. The Packers defense is playing well enough to win each week.  What NFC team is ready to actually make the Packers defense pay in the playoffs?

The formula for Green Bay is different than last regular season, but it’s also a lot more effective than last regular season.

“We were not as sharp as we need to be as a team, but we won the football game. We’re 8-0,” coach Mike McCarthy said.

The Packers defense isn’t great, but it repeatedly makes the plays necessary at the end of games to win. That has to count for something.

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  1. sbxxix says: Nov 7, 2011 1:11 PM

    GB has a great team and they deserve a lot of credit for being 8-0 however it would be better if more of those wins came against quality opponents. They’ve had a pretty soft schedule so far. I can’t wait to see them against Det. It should be a good one.

  2. duece5 says: Nov 7, 2011 1:13 PM

    Hmmmmmm. no “claymaker” this year…..just happens to be coincidental with eventual use of HGH testing…..hmmmmm.

    The packers secondary takes alot of chances—even a rook like ponder can and will make them pay.

    Winfield will be actually healthy this time around, and it will make for another great game.

    Vikes take care of an overconfident packer d this time, on your own turf……GO VIKES!!!

  3. granadafan says: Nov 7, 2011 1:15 PM

    No. The Packers defense is being bailed out by the offense, which is putting up huge numbers. The games shouldn’t be this close but for the bad play by the defense.

  4. mavajo says: Nov 7, 2011 1:15 PM

    “What NFC team is ready to actually make the Packers defense pay in the playoffs?”

    Saints, Eagles, Giants, Lions?

    The thing is…the Packers may have some serious flaws — but every other team out there has even more.

  5. thridandlong says: Nov 7, 2011 1:16 PM

    Please continue this ‘ bad football ‘ when the Bears visit you in December….that would be a nice holiday gift for us fans.

  6. 13forgbp says: Nov 7, 2011 1:17 PM

    “A lot of bad football,” Charles Woodson said in a “somber” ton after the game…

    He said it 2000 times?

    Never fails.

  7. waggs12 says: Nov 7, 2011 1:17 PM

    I’m not a Packers fan, but as long as you have Rodgers playing the way he is, it really doesn’t matter how poorly the defense is playing. The only problem is that if they keep giving up this many points, it’s not fair to keep asking Rodgers to keep performing the way he has. After a while, everyone has a bad day, and if the Packers want to repeat, they need to either fix their defense, or hope that Rodgers doesn’t have his bad game during the playoffs.

  8. 7ransponder says: Nov 7, 2011 1:19 PM

    They are beatable and it’s only a matter of time before someone figures it all out. Of course that also requires the refs to do their jobs properly and stop playing favorites (looking at you there Jordy Nelson) so it’s quite the uphill battle.

  9. skinscc says: Nov 7, 2011 1:20 PM

    That’s a good reaction to have, but let’s not go overboard. The Packers defense is playing well enough to win each week. What NFC team is ready to actually make the Packers defense pay in the playoffs?

    How can you honestly say that when they just game up that many points? Isn’t it pretty obvious the offense is doing all the dirty work?

  10. jpb12 says: Nov 7, 2011 1:21 PM

    I thought this was from ROD Woodson about the Raiders.

  11. packfaninthehook says: Nov 7, 2011 1:23 PM

    Sure it counts for something, but you can sense that these guys want to be up there with the greats of all time. The defense has been good enough so far, but that’s meaningless if it’s not good enough come January. C-Wood has been around the block enough to know that and this team is hungry to be mentioned in the same sentence as Lombardi and Lambeau, not the ’97 Packers who made it to back to back Super Bowls but fell short in the title defense.

  12. AlanSaysYo says: Nov 7, 2011 1:23 PM

    This was a typical Norv Turner game. Norv’s team beat itself. The Packers are certainly the best team in the league, and still would have been the best team in the league even if they lost yesterday, but they’re also fortunate to have played some of their least inspiring football against a team that loves to shoot itself in the foot.

  13. otissor says: Nov 7, 2011 1:25 PM

    The packers defense doesn’t matter. They have Aaron Rodgers. Fact.

  14. mikeheruki says: Nov 7, 2011 1:25 PM

    The defense IS bad.

  15. snarkzilla says: Nov 7, 2011 1:26 PM

    >no “claymaker” this year

    Probably actually watching him play and/or looking at his stats beyond sack numbers would be helpful to you.

  16. packfaninthehook says: Nov 7, 2011 1:27 PM

    Yeah super soft schedule like vs. Saints, @Falcons, @Chargers, @Bears. Come on.

    Half of the wins came against teams headed home come January and the other half will be in the mix until the end. The big tests like @Giants and @Lions are to come for sure, but let’s not act like the Packers have had a Cincy-type pastry puff schedule.

  17. mavajo says: Nov 7, 2011 1:29 PM

    sbxxix says: “8-0 however it would be better if more of those wins came against quality opponents.”

    They’ve played the Saints, Falcons and Bears. All three currently appear to be in the playoff hunt.

  18. dublindemonszfl says: Nov 7, 2011 1:34 PM

    packers are all done, probably won’t win another game this year. Absolutely gonna get beat this Monday. Woodson will probably get caught cheating a few more times and Jarred Allen will sakc Rogers about 4 times. packers a pathetic, they go back to their namesake and pack some meat ya maet packers.

  19. sbxxix says: Nov 7, 2011 1:35 PM

    mavajo says:
    Nov 7, 2011 1:15 PM
    “What NFC team is ready to actually make the Packers defense pay in the playoffs?”

    Saints, Eagles, Giants, Lions?

    The thing is…the Packers may have some serious flaws — but every other team out there has even more.

    THE 49ERS ARE THE TEAM TO DO THAT. GREAT DEFENSE AND A GREAT RUNNING GAME TO KEEP THEIR OFFENSE OFF THE FIELD. THATS THE FORMULA TO SUCCESS IN THE PLAYOFFS. THE PACKERS ARROGNACE WILL BE THEIR HOLD UP. IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE THE SAINTS TAKE THEM OUT TOO THOUGH. I THINK RODGERS TALKING $HIT ABOUT THEIR OFFSEASON WORKOUTS WAS DISRESPECTFUL AND UNCALLED FOR. I HOPE THEY GET THE LAST LAUGH ON THEM.

  20. actiondanwi says: Nov 7, 2011 1:35 PM

    “Vikes take care of an overconfident packer d this time, on your own turf……GO VIKES!!!”

    The overconfident D that doesn’t even want to celebrate going 8-0 because they are so down on their level of play?

    Good luck with that, pal.

  21. nomoreseasontix says: Nov 7, 2011 1:38 PM

    If you want to see bad defensive football, watch a tape of the Raiders being spanked at home by Denver.
    And I’m a Raider fan…..

  22. dublindemonszfl says: Nov 7, 2011 1:39 PM

    I hear thru sources at the NFL that HGH testing will begin tomorrow and the first player to fail will be the packers own”claymaker” Without him the bad defense is even worse, look out for Minnesota cheeseballs!

  23. shaggytoodle says: Nov 7, 2011 1:42 PM

    The Packers miss Cullen Jenkins a ton I have said it a dozen times by now.

    I understand that the defense isn’t playing all that great, but maybe it would be ok to give teams like the Chargers and Saints credit for having a good offense?

  24. willardj says: Nov 7, 2011 1:42 PM

    The loss of Cullen Jenkins and a steroid-less Clay Matthews certainly doesn’t help. But the fact of the matter is, Aaron Rodgers is playing arguably the greatest season by any QB in the history of football. When your QB is that good, all you need is for your defense to get hot for the playoffs. Just like the 2009 Saints and 2006 Colts.

  25. ticalcaldwell says: Nov 7, 2011 1:42 PM

    Showed yesterday how great Rodgers truly is…..he will do WHATEVER it takes to win….oh yeah…and guess who has him on his fantasy team……………………………jus sayin

  26. blackheld says: Nov 7, 2011 1:47 PM

    The Packers are winning high scoring games. Regardless of how good they look doing it, this is not the way to win championships. The 49ers, Lions and Packers look like the class of the NFC, and no, I ain’t buying the Giants koolade. That might make me look stupid, but I just can’t do it.

    Last year, the Lions shut Green Bay down completely, winning 7-3, knocking out Rodgers at halftime and in general making the Packers look very ordinary, with Shaun Hill and Drew Stanton at QB for the Lions.

    The Packers and Lions are very similar teams. I suspect the Packers’ offense is better than the Lions’ offense, and I also think the Lions’ defense is better than the Packers’ defense. The Lions also know the GB offense very well, while the Lions’ offense is vastly different from last year’s version.

    I wouldn’t bet one cent on either team, regardless of the spread, but playing in Detroit on Thanksgiving is a big deal for the Lions, and the Packers are gonna be feeling the ’16-0′ pressure some, too.

    It’ll be an interesting game, especially if the Lions beat Chicago, next Sunday. Just for fun, call it…

    Lions 34, Green Bay 31.

  27. bjorntorock says: Nov 7, 2011 1:47 PM

    people forget the packers are getting every other teams ”best effort” everyone wants to be the team to knock off the champions

  28. Lev says: Nov 7, 2011 1:48 PM

    Teams are just planning around Clay Matthews better. Not every good football player needs ‘roids or HGH. I’ve never seen juice help a player take better angles or improve field vision. Doubt me?? Look up Taylor Mays…..

  29. johnnyb216 says: Nov 7, 2011 1:51 PM

    Deuce,
    You need your head examined. No way the vikings play a competative game against the packers come Monday night. Green bay is going to kick the tar out of them and their shoddy secondary. I expect at least a 3 touchdown victory for the packers.

  30. mrninetysixchamps says: Nov 7, 2011 1:52 PM

    I’ve noticed throughout the season Green Bay isn’t terrible outside the numbers. The are bad in the middle because we keep thinking of putting Des Bishop on players like Gates(SD) and Olsen(CAR)…We also need to stop making Matthews play in coverage. It’s not working, let him get the QB.

  31. gosuhgo says: Nov 7, 2011 1:56 PM

    Its pretty clear their offense is the best. So many weapons. But if things go even a little wrong, their defense could get them screwed. If rodgers gets forced into just one mistake during the thanksgiving game, the track meet that day could go detroits way.

  32. minnesconsin says: Nov 7, 2011 2:00 PM

    For all the talk of the greatness of the Packers’ defense in the 2010, they were 5-3 at this point in the season. They were better in pretty much every single defensive statistic except INTs (they’re on pace for 32 this year), but that couldn’t keep them from blowing 4th quarter leads against the Bears (10-7), Skins (13-3), and dropping one to the Fins in the first half of the season.

    It’s frustrating to watch them give up so many big plays that seem almost uncontested, but as long as they keep winning, I really don’t care.

    Can the Packers be beat? Yes, of course. The formula for beating the Packers is pretty simple. Don’t waste any scoring opportunities, and try to keep Rodgers off the field. I guess it’s more easily said than done — just ask the Saints, Panthers, Bears, Broncos, Falcons, Rams, Vikings, and Chargers.

  33. bucthat says: Nov 7, 2011 2:13 PM

    So I’ve met the dumbest guy alive, rlly a good run game to keep ur offense off the field……. I think ur offense has to be on for u to run, silly 9ers fan

  34. gobacktocheeseland says: Nov 7, 2011 2:18 PM

    Schism

  35. riverace19 says: Nov 7, 2011 2:21 PM

    When the Packers got up 21 they went to a prevent D but the deep guys weren’t reacting to WR movement, often times letting VJax get behind the safeties and letting Gates flood behind the LBs… I guess the plan was to force the Chargers to run clock, but they scored so fast it didn’t work.
    The Jordy Nelson failure on the onsides didn’t help either.
    The Packers D made plays when they had to but yesterday was closer than it should have been.
    All you Vikings wankers are gonna be taught a lesson next MNF and Niners? Bring your best shot to Titletown if you make it and you will learn another lesson.

  36. riverace19 says: Nov 7, 2011 2:23 PM

    The Chargers DID keep Rodgers off the field. 3 Packers possessions in the first half and only 26 passing attempts by Rodgers. Didn’t work.

  37. mnvikes7897 says: Nov 7, 2011 2:28 PM

    Charles Woodson plays a lot of dirty football so I don’t see the difference. He has so much contact with receivers he should at least buy them a drink first. Gross.

  38. Nevis says: Nov 7, 2011 2:35 PM

    Woodson is right.

    The defense made the plays it had to, but without those pick 6s, the Chargers very well could have won.

    Green Bay has a long way to go defensively. If Rodgers goes down, they are beyond mortal.

  39. gpack22 says: Nov 7, 2011 2:36 PM

    For those HGH honks, please understand sacks aren’t everything. Clay may not have the sack #’s but he is among the league leaders when you combine sacks, pressures, and knockdowns. He is also much more improved as a run defender. Sacks may be the glory stat but he’s still playing at a very high level, he can’t do it himself. Someone else has to step up as a pass rusher.

    Losing Nick Collins was huge. Yes Peprah had two INT’s but he also was directly responsible for at least 2 Charger’s TD’s. Actually admitted one right after game. The DB’s communication isn’t close to what it was last season and the number of Splash plays against them is proving that.

  40. packerfan1000 says: Nov 7, 2011 2:40 PM

    packers are all done, probably won’t win another game this year. Absolutely gonna get beat this Monday. Woodson will probably get caught cheating a few more times and Jarred Allen will sakc Rogers about 4 times. packers a pathetic, they go back to their namesake and pack some meat ya maet packers.

    ——–

    How are posts like this allowed to be posted? Either way, it is hilarious how many uneducated fans resort to name calling on this site. It’s even more hilarious when the names used in the name calling are spelled incorrectly.

    Along that same vain, I don’t know how Jared Allen may sack Rodgers a few times next Monday, but I doubt Jarred Allen will sakc Rogers, since Jarred and Rogers aren’t even real people. And even if they were, I’m not sure how you sakc someone.

  41. bmue42 says: Nov 7, 2011 2:44 PM

    according to a lot of Viking fans hgh=high performance and when the numbers go down it certainly can’t be the double teaming or lack of pass rush from the other side no matter how high he is in the league in hurry’s and knockdowns.

    well if you guys wana keep a team in your worthless state I recommend you send your whole team north of the border for some treatment from dr galea because your 2-6 record is pathetic your last in the division and will be drafting in the top 10 for the next 15 years

  42. glac1 says: Nov 7, 2011 2:49 PM

    The Pack has made average quarterbacks look good this year so the game yesterday with a qb like Rivers didn’t surprise me. Green Bay’s defense was the same way last year and didn’t put things together consistently until December.

  43. jasonculhane says: Nov 7, 2011 2:58 PM

    Packers will be fine. Their defense will get it together later in the year along with their running game. Right now Rodgers is on a tear for the record books as having the best statistical passer in NFL history for one season, they would be wise to ride it out with his historical year.

  44. lsaager1 says: Nov 7, 2011 2:59 PM

    Seems like a double edge sword. The defense made some mistakes bu how many other teams got 2 pick 6’s yesterday, they definitely are lucky that it seems as though the offense can score at will.

  45. dspohn55 says: Nov 7, 2011 2:59 PM

    “The Packers defense is playing well enough to win each week”

    Uh, no. The offense is playing almost perfect which is allowing a whole lot of wiggle room for the Pack. The defense has had a substandard year, they are 31st in pass defense.

  46. aberamsey says: Nov 7, 2011 3:21 PM

    Until the Pack actually trails a game in the 4th quarter I’ll be worried. Talk all you want about the shaky D and the weak schedule. The bottom line is the Chargers were down 21 at home in the 4th quarter. During the Packers 14 game winning streak they haven’t trailed in the 4th quarter once.

  47. ruvelligwebuike says: Nov 7, 2011 3:21 PM

    While the coverage mix-ups and generally beating their taking in man coverage seems like the problem, let’s not miss one thing.

    They simply can’t get to the quarterback. Period. It’s pathetic. I’m not looking it up, but they have to be dead last in sacks this year. Pickett/Raji/Wilson/Wynn get ZERO push, Matthews gets doubled, and Walden and Zombo aren’t winning their matchups. Those Woodson/Shields blitzes from the slot aren’t getting home either.

    At first, I thought Williams was just playing bad and Peprah was no Collins, but how long are you going to stay locked on a guy when Rivers has time to bake blueberry muffins before he gets rid of it.

  48. captaincanoe says: Nov 7, 2011 3:45 PM

    I’m sick of hearing that the Packers have a soft schedule. They’ve won 14 in a row going back to last season:
    Quality Teams: @Atl*2, @Chi*2, @Phil, @SD, Saints, Chi, NYG, and Pitts in the SB.
    Non-Qulity Teams: @Panthers, @Vikes, Denver and St. Louis.

  49. snarkzilla says: Nov 7, 2011 3:48 PM

    >They simply can’t get to the quarterback.

    A bit overstated but the contrast to last year is pretty clear. One reason is that Matthews is being expected to play coverage. He’s better against the run like this but is headhunting less.

  50. snarkzilla says: Nov 7, 2011 3:51 PM

    >they are 31st in pass defense.

    They dropped from 9th in points allowed to 18th due to the game Sunday.

  51. stavreafavre says: Nov 7, 2011 4:06 PM

    Rodgers got chased and hit all game but never lost his cool. On the other hand Rivers looked horribly rattled on the last series after facing relatively little pressure all day. It would help both the Packers’ run and pass defense a great deal if Mike Neal could get onto the field and play the way he can. So far he’s not done a whole lot more than Harrell did. Packers need him to get back and stay healthy. The Packers are definitely skating along the edge and it’s nerve-wracking, but then every other team this year has lost at least once. There are no great, consistent, complete teams this year. Despite playing to the level of their opponents too often, the Pack is the best of the bunch – so far. Who will pull it all together at the end of the year? Who knows?
    On a side note, Packers could be 10-0 going into Detroit on Thanksgiving. Didn’t that happen once before? Let’s hope history doesn’t repeat or even rhyme this time.

  52. anthonydilweg says: Nov 7, 2011 4:15 PM

    Every time i see Walden and Wynn starting I wanna puke in my mouth. They aren’t rotating players in the front 7. Wynn is getting way too many snaps, and howard green is an afterthought. The best news I heard from the chargers game was that Zombo pulled a hammy. Now maybe we can get So’oto on the field, get him some snaps and generate some sort of a pass rush. The Walden/Wynn combo needs to be filed in same place slocum put those special teams playbooks.

  53. nineroutsider says: Nov 7, 2011 6:12 PM

    The packers play defense when they have to. It makes the fans a little uneasy, but I think they will be fine. I expect it to tighten up over the next few weeks and will get close to what it was last year come playoff time.

    Now lose a few games already!

  54. axespray says: Nov 7, 2011 6:39 PM

    Raji & Clay are getting double teamed, walden & pickett can’t crush a pocket if they were juiced and in some way related to Reggie White & Howie Long….

    WE NEED MIKE NEAL in order to successfully run our 2-4-5…
    We need that pressure up the middle, We need Mike Neal to fill in that Cullen Jenkins Bull Rush up the middle role, We need 2 Big DLinemen pushing back the center and guards. That allows our OLBs to get in 1 on 1 situations.

    Right now, we should swap back to our 2009 Smoke & Mirror Defense (until neal is back) .
    We get our takeaways/sacks when we blitz like crazy, our 4 man rush ain’t getting it done right now.

  55. kennyrogerschicken says: Nov 7, 2011 6:51 PM

    A whole lot of Vikings fans talking trash in a Packers story. And while the Vikings sit at 2-6 and the Packers are 8-0, no less.

    All of a sudden Vikings fans more pathetic than usual.

  56. splashtacular says: Nov 7, 2011 9:49 PM

    Hey Kenny, at least the Vikings aren’t having a decent season to where there would be a lot of bandwagon fans (you know how they get)…otherwise this thread would be Minnietrollin like crazy!

  57. stellarperformance says: Nov 8, 2011 4:57 PM

    I hope 13-3 is good enough for home field. I think they will split between the Vikings/Bears, lose at New York, and split with Detroit. Without pressure up the middle from Jenkins, it doesn’t matter who is chasing the QB…you’re not going to catch a good one. I don’t think the Packers are the best team in the league. I don’t even think they have the best offense. They just have the best QB and the best receivers. The defense needs a lot of work. I just hope to hell they get their act together pretty damn soon or it is going to be a short post season.

  58. pack13queens0 says: Nov 8, 2011 7:05 PM

    nineroutsider says:
    Nov 7, 2011 6:12 PM
    The packers play defense when they have to. It makes the fans a little uneasy, but I think they will be fine. I expect it to tighten up over the next few weeks and will get close to what it was last year come playoff time.

    Now lose a few games already!
    ___________________________________
    Ain’t happening. No matter how rusty the D is, we have the 1 & only A-Rod & an offense that lights up the scoreboard every week. This Packer team would beat the 1972 Dolphins.

  59. timmy1975 says: Nov 9, 2011 12:46 AM

    Come Tues. morning, after thier Super bowl, all these smart-mouthed queenie weinied purple pukes, will be now where to be found.

  60. timmy1975 says: Nov 9, 2011 12:50 AM

    Uh, I meant to say, NO WHERE , to be found. :)

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