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Week Nine power rankings

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1.  Packers (No. 1; 8-0):  Halfway to an undefeated season, the Packers’ defense is suddenly alarmingly porous.

2.  49ers (No. 2; 7-1):  The Niners have a better formula than the Packers to win games in January.

3.  Giants (No. 6; 6-2):  The good news for the Giants is that quarterback Eli Manning truly has become elite.  The better news is that the whole team is, too.

4.  Ravens (No. 7; 6-2):  If the offense that showed up late in the Steelers game had shown up against the Titans and Jaguars, the Ravens would be undefeated.

5.  Lions (No. 5; 6-2):  In 16 days, they get their crack at the Pack.

6.  Steelers (No. 3; 6-3):  Sunday night’s finish gave Steelers fans nausea-like symptoms.

7.  Bengals (No. 8; 6-2):  The next two games (vs. Steelers, at Ravens) will tell us everything we need to know about this team.

8.  Patriots (No. 4; 5-3):  Chad Ochocinco never dreamed he’d have to look up to see the Bengals

9.  Saints (No. 9; 6-3):  The key to more wins is more Darren Sproles.

10.  Texans (No. 12; 6-3):  If/when Andre Johnson returns, this team could be ready to compete for a first-round bye.

11.  Jets (No. 17; 5-3):  If the Jets keep winning, it’ll shut up Joe Namath.  If they start losing, it’ll shut up Rex Ryan.  Either way, one of them will hopefully shut up.

12.  Bears (No. 13; 5-3):  Maybe Matt Forte’s two fumbles will take some steam out of his campaign for a contract.

13.  Falcons (No. 15; 5-3):  Falcons fans are jonesing for more Julio.

14.  Bills (No. 10; 5-3):  The Bills Mafia could be seeing their playoff chances get whacked.

15.  Cowboys (No. 20; 4-4):  No team manhandles bad teams and struggles against good teams like the Cowboys.

16.  Raiders (No. 11; 4-4):  The team that once owned the AFC West apparently was only renting it.

17.  Buccaneers (No. 14; 4-4):  With two games to play against the Panthers, the up-and-down Bucs need to worry about ending up down in the basement of the division.

18.  Chiefs (No. 16; 4-4):  Todd Haley’s beard was done in by Reggie Bush.

19. Chargers (No. 18; 4-4):  Philip Rivers‘ “off year” apparently has extended to his ability to assess his own performance.

20.  Eagles (No. 19; 3-5):  As a PFT commenter has observed, Juan Castillo is a great offensive line coach.  Never before has the Bears’ offensive line looked so good.

21. Vikings (No. 21; 2-6):  Monday night’s game against the Packers will be very close.  Before the opening kickoff.

22.  Panthers (No. 22; 2-6):  Their record doesn’t reflect how potent this team is.

23.  Titans (No. 23; 4-4):  It’s a sad day when 64 yards rushing from Chris Johnson is regarded as an improvement.

24.  Broncos (No. 27; 3-5):  If coach John Fox runs Tim Tebow until he breaks, Fox will never have to bench him.

25.  Redskins (No. 24; 3-5):  To apply the term “rebuilding” to this franchise implies that there’s actually been something in the past 15 years that had been built.

26.  Cardinals (No. 30; 2-6):  Kevin Kolb didn’t realize he had a Skelton in the closet.

27.  Browns (No. 25; 3-5):  The Big Show could soon be looking for the nearest exit from the theater.

28.  Jaguars (No. 28; 2-6):  G.M. Gene Smith turned down a contract offer.  Presumably, he didn’t want to work for minimum wage.

29.  Seahawks (No. 29; 2-6):  Maybe Pete Carroll opted to coach in Seattle so that, when his return to the NFL flops, no one will notice.

30. Dolphins (No. 32; 1-7):  If Tony Sparano keeps screwing up the team’s shot at Andrew Luck, Sparano definitely will be getting fired.

31.  Rams (No. 26; 1-7):  The Rams apparently didn’t get the memo that the easy portion of the schedule had begun.

32.  Colts (No. 31; 0-9):  The true definition of “rats who lie about people”?  Anyone who would suggest that the Colts aren’t the worst team in the league.

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  1. lunt101 says: Nov 8, 2011 9:23 AM

    Giants fan here. I’d appreciate if you kept us out of the Top 5. We are way better when we’re the underdogs. Thanks.

  2. djteknision1200 says: Nov 8, 2011 9:23 AM

    Why are the Eagles at 3-5 still ranked number 14?? Number 25 is about the right spot for them after last nights loss.

  3. tatatoothy says: Nov 8, 2011 9:29 AM

    Still can’t get used to seeing a bagel in the win column for the Colts

  4. thegreatwhitemidget says: Nov 8, 2011 9:30 AM

    #8 you miss spelled Tom Brady and we’d welker…then 50 piles of crap…that’s the real team that should be there

  5. jkay1818 says: Nov 8, 2011 9:30 AM

    Giants vs niners is coming at a good time, should be a good one. Reminds me of the late 80s, early 90s when they were both nasty and used to play in the NFC championships.

  6. briank1ne says: Nov 8, 2011 9:30 AM

    can the packers lose already so the niners can claim the number one spot. Bring on the GMEN! Patriots are overated with that last place D! Gmen wont even score 10 on the niners!

  7. 10nygeliteeli says: Nov 8, 2011 9:31 AM

    Great game for Eli and the GMEN now a duel in the west coast. One game at a time and by the way it looks we will be peakin right on time. My game of the week is the Red Rifle vs Pitt.

  8. getyourownname says: Nov 8, 2011 9:31 AM

    In other words, regarding the Jets, it should be a win-win situation. But history tells us otherwise.

    BTW, any team that lost to the Deadskins cannot possibly be the No. 3 team.

  9. benwantsababyruth says: Nov 8, 2011 9:33 AM

    Pete Carroll sucks

  10. ticalcaldwell says: Nov 8, 2011 9:34 AM

    Patriots (No. 4; 5-3): Chad Ochocinco never dreamed he’d have to look up to see the Bengals

    Brings a smile to ALL Bengals Fans

  11. PFTiswhatitis says: Nov 8, 2011 9:35 AM

    Declaring Eli elite is like declaring PFT elite.

  12. klunge says: Nov 8, 2011 9:36 AM

    “I got a fever…and the only prescription, is more Julio!”

  13. geniusesq says: Nov 8, 2011 9:37 AM

    Always an obligatory swipe at the Redskins.

  14. snarkzilla says: Nov 8, 2011 9:38 AM

    “The Niners have a better formula than the Packers to win games in January.”

    You have to go back to 2003 to find Checkdown Charlie winning a Super Bowl.

  15. thompgk says: Nov 8, 2011 9:39 AM

    Half of Dallas’ wins came against undefeated at the time teams that were healthy and full force. San Fran is probably going to lock down a playoff spot soon.

    But yeah, they haven’t beaten anybody.

  16. nickfairley15ydpf says: Nov 8, 2011 9:40 AM

    Pete Carroll is definitely a flop, he’s taken a quarterback-less, talent depleted roster and took them to the playoffs and won a playoff game in his 1st year of coaching…clowns

  17. southpaw2k says: Nov 8, 2011 9:41 AM

    I can’t wait to see 7thlombardi try to “fix” these latest rankings.

  18. ravensfan4life52 says: Nov 8, 2011 9:41 AM

    Nice power rankings. I still mad at Forte for those fumbles last night. cost me my Fantasy game!

  19. ravensfan4life52 says: Nov 8, 2011 9:42 AM

    *I’m

  20. Soulman45 says: Nov 8, 2011 9:42 AM

    Frist to say THE GREAT DETROIT LIONS should be #3 what have NY done?

  21. waltdawg says: Nov 8, 2011 9:42 AM

    Too Kind on the SKINS ranking….Put them right at 32 where they belong. Great fan base, tons of money, nice stadium—-AND THEY STINK!!! Have for close to 20 years now.

  22. grizzlybear34 says: Nov 8, 2011 9:44 AM

    “In 16 days, the Lions get a crack at the Pack”

    In 6 days, the Bears get a crack at the Lions, let’s not crown them just yet…

  23. warvette says: Nov 8, 2011 9:45 AM

    i love lists.

  24. anhdazman says: Nov 8, 2011 9:45 AM

    The 2012 Draft could possibly have QBs drafted at #1, #2, & #3 consecutively. If Rams fall in the top 3, they can get some good draft picks to build a team again.
    Teams like the Colts, Dolphins, Seahawks, Browns, Redskins, and Broncos are in dire need of a Franchise QB. They’ll be willing to risk some draft picks for one of the top 3 QBs.

  25. ghostrider25 says: Nov 8, 2011 9:46 AM

    Go Niners!

  26. unfkwthabl says: Nov 8, 2011 9:47 AM

    So the Chiefs shut out Oak at home and then Oak looses to Tebow…. but still they are tops in the division?

  27. rhatman says: Nov 8, 2011 9:49 AM

    the redskinshavent been anything in 15 years? the won the superbowl in the 90s….not living in the past, but you might want to do a tad bit of research before you speak. oh, and i agree with your wife. http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23wifecalledmeadumbassagain

  28. shackdelrio says: Nov 8, 2011 9:50 AM

    “2. 49ers (No. 2; 7-1): The Niners have a better formula than the Packers to win games in January.”

    The Packers formula has Aaron Rodgers and home field advantage, so I don’t know about that.

  29. batterychucker says: Nov 8, 2011 9:50 AM

    Texans at #10? #1 Defense in the league, #3 team in the AFC, beaten Pittsburgh already and spanked the weaker teams on their schedule.

    Meanwhile the AFCN gets all this love even though they play the 2 weakest divisions in the NFL and can’t even beat the strongest teams in those divisions – 0-2 against the Niners and 1-2 against the Texans.

  30. rpiotr01 says: Nov 8, 2011 9:50 AM

    “The Niners have a better formula than the Packers to win games in January.”

    What’s this supposed to mean? “Running the ball and stopping the run?” Are you stuck in the 90’s?

    Green Bay couldn’t run the ball worth a lick last year and their run D was average. They went on a tear and won anyway. The Saints in 2009 weren’t very different.

    The formula for success in January is to have a devastating passing attack and a defense that doesn’t give up a lot of TDs.

  31. 1buckeye76 says: Nov 8, 2011 9:50 AM

    As much venom as i like to spew at our counterparts in the division, I’m proud to be a fan of a AFC North team… Toughest division in football.

  32. mightyleemoon says: Nov 8, 2011 9:50 AM

    The Panthers record very clearly shows just how impotent their defense is.

  33. ducksouped says: Nov 8, 2011 9:51 AM

    Touchdown torrey smith!!!!!

  34. stevepea says: Nov 8, 2011 9:51 AM

    Celebrating a score on the Colts should be a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct.

  35. dcfan4life says: Nov 8, 2011 9:52 AM

    As a skins fan i feel we are ranked to high. And thats saying something…

  36. wwwmattcom says: Nov 8, 2011 9:52 AM

    I am proud of the Bills. This wasn’t their season but they are showing life.

  37. RexCanCoach says: Nov 8, 2011 9:53 AM

    All Raider fans, repeat after me:

    “OH NO….WE SUCK AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!”

  38. dynaco says: Nov 8, 2011 9:53 AM

    How many wins will it take for you to shut up???

  39. EJ says: Nov 8, 2011 9:54 AM

    The #BillsMafia will overcome and rise this week against the Cowboys. Fitz is ready for a breakout game, Jackson is itching for some TD’s and Gailey wants to slap around the other Ryan brother. Go Bills!!!!

  40. minnesconsin says: Nov 8, 2011 9:54 AM

    2. 49ers (No. 2; 7-1): The Niners have a better formula than the Packers to win games in January.

    Worked well enough for the Packers last year. The niners are great defensively, but not great enough to come to Lambeau and shut Rodgers down.

  41. packerstexansfan says: Nov 8, 2011 9:54 AM

    “Halfway to an undefeated season, the Packers’ defense is suddenly alarmingly porous.”
    They’ve been giving lots of yards and points throughout the season. So I wouldn’t say suddenly.
    Also how are the 49ers better to win in January? Yes they can run the ball, but I believe the Packers are top 5 in run if I’m not mistaken. And Starks showed last year that he do enough, not to mention Grant is here too. And, finally, the most important thing, Rodgers has shown that he can still throw it no matter what time of year it is. Yes he may not put up the ridiculous numbers he’s putting up now, but he can easily get the job done. And one more thing, this “horrible” D won’t look so bad when the competition isn’t throwing as much either.

  42. jvibottomline says: Nov 8, 2011 9:55 AM

    49ers/Giants will be a battle, I just don’t see the Giants scoring many points or stopping the 49ers ground machine. The 49ers defense is barely letting teams cross midfield.

  43. calloustongue says: Nov 8, 2011 9:55 AM

    Packers have problems in the secondary, but it’s more a communication problem than talent. They’ll figure it out, they traditionally become more cohesive in the winter months, and will only be away from Lambeau 3 more times all season. Even in a shootout, they have playmakers that can make up for their mistakes with big plays. Gotta remember they are getting everyone’s best shot and weathering the storm each week while walking away with yet another W.

  44. drshakedown74 says: Nov 8, 2011 9:55 AM

    Juan is a great guy. Not a great coordinator. Gotta go.

  45. hineswardcriesafterfumbling says: Nov 8, 2011 9:56 AM

    If the Bengals win this weekend, this will be what the PFT power rankings look like next week.

    6. Steelers (No. 3; 6-4): Mayble Coach Tomlin will want to start unleashing hell after losing to the surprising Bengals.

    7. Bengals (No. 8; 7-2): The next three games (at Ravens, vs. Browns, at Steelers) will tell us everything we need to know about this team.

    Quick note: The Steelers don’t have a win over any team with a better record than anyone the Bengals have beaten.

  46. jdandcoke says: Nov 8, 2011 9:56 AM

    getyourownname says:Nov 8, 2011 9:31 AM

    BTW, any team that lost to the Deadskins cannot possibly be the No. 3 team.

    the 1986 juggernaut giants opened up that season by losing to a very mediocre dallas team.

    anyway….as a giants fan i think 3 is a little high this week. we need to beat the niners….then i think we can really begin to take the giants seriously.

  47. 13forgbp says: Nov 8, 2011 10:01 AM

    every week there is a new “it” team that is supposed to challenge the packers….this week’s Nancy…the 49ers. O record I guess you can make the argument…they may very well finish the year 12-4 with the girl scout teams they play (Sea x2, Rams x2, Cardinals x2, Cle, Wash). They have some tougher games coming so we will see what they really are.

    point is…yes the Packers give up a lot of yards….a lot of yards, but they also take the ball away a ton. Also, has it occurred to anyone that they give up all these yards because they are usually kicking the s*** out of the other team and all the other team does is pass?

    All that matters is points. Packers give up an average of 22.4 a game. They score 34.4.

    We will find out a lot about SF when they play some talented teams…but don’t hold your breath hoping they are the second coming. Don’t forget, they still have Alex Smith and Gore will get hurt like he always does.

  48. freddyfreeloader says: Nov 8, 2011 10:01 AM

    As much venom as i like to spew at our counterparts in the division, I’m proud to be a fan of a AFC North team… Toughest division in football.

    _____________________________________

    NFC North might have something to say about that.

  49. giantrobot666 says: Nov 8, 2011 10:01 AM

    Will Jack Del Rio finally be fired after the Jaguars lose to the Colts this weekend?

  50. snarkzilla says: Nov 8, 2011 10:06 AM

    >AFC North team… Toughest division in football

    Let me introduce you to the NFC North, where teams don’t shockingly lose to teams that are much worse.

    By the way, through week 9, AFC North net points: 116. NFC North net points: 187.

  51. begsbybrown5 says: Nov 8, 2011 10:08 AM

    Ravens are my team, but I don’t think the Bengals are getting the respect they deserve. Good luck on Sunday!

  52. kruciald says: Nov 8, 2011 10:09 AM

    “the Packers’ defense is suddenly alarmingly porous.”

    Suddenly?

  53. nflofficeadmin says: Nov 8, 2011 10:09 AM

    7thLombardi grew-up next door to Sandusky and it shows. PA-styles.

  54. donmajik7 says: Nov 8, 2011 10:15 AM

    “The Niners have a better formula than the Packers to win games in January.”

    *****************************************

    Should read “the Niners will come back to reality over the next couple weeks when they face real teams like the Giants and Ravens who show them they’re not worthy of a #2 ranking”.

    I know they just play the schedule their given but Niners fans have now become as annoying and overconfident as Lions Fans!!!

  55. pkrjones says: Nov 8, 2011 10:15 AM

    “rhatman says:Nov 8, 2011 9:49 AM

    the redskinshavent been anything in 15 years? the won the superbowl in the 90s….”
    Superbowl 26, January of 1992 (20 years ago, for your obviously math-challenged-dumb-ass) was the last ‘Skins appearance. Keep up the good work, rhatman.

  56. packattack1967 says: Nov 8, 2011 10:20 AM

    We are a very good football team. Not one of the best ever Im afraid. D just isnt there. We’ll loose a couple. Health will dictate what happens in Jan and Feb

  57. bigpara says: Nov 8, 2011 10:21 AM

    It’s funny, Giants won’t beat the Eagles, Bills or Patriots and now they won’t beat the 9ers. From the reports Gore isn’t going to play and the 9ers game revolves around Gore. Giant will be healthier, 9ers will get blown out
    Also the 9ers are also ranked what 21th in passing defense and the Giants love to throw the ball. Ballard will destroy the middle of that d.

  58. jimmysee says: Nov 8, 2011 10:21 AM

    5. Lions (No. 5; 6-2): In 16 days, they get their crack at the Pack.

    …. and in six days, they get their crack at the Bears.

    Better not overlook that one, Loins fans.

  59. davem23 says: Nov 8, 2011 10:23 AM

    Vikings @21? Curious how this was determined. Seems like the Panthers, Titans, and Broncos are better.

  60. tedmurph says: Nov 8, 2011 10:24 AM

    thegreatwhitemidget says:
    Nov 8, 2011 9:30 AM
    #8 you miss spelled Tom Brady and we’d welker…then 50 piles of crap…that’s the real team that should be there
    —————————————————-
    You forgot the other 6 Pro-Bowlers.

  61. stoogy says: Nov 8, 2011 10:26 AM

    The raiders are going to beat the chargers in a respectible fashion.

  62. thridandlong says: Nov 8, 2011 10:28 AM

    grizzlybear34 says:
    Nov 8, 2011 9:44 AM
    “In 16 days, the Lions get a crack at the Pack”

    In 6 days, the Bears get a crack at the Lions, let’s not crown them just yet…

    ————————————————–

    Bear Down my Brother !!!!!!!!

  63. snarkzilla says: Nov 8, 2011 10:30 AM

    Another good thing about the NFC North: 45,229 fans (so far) have signed a petition to try to keep Nickelback from performing at the Packers-Lions Thanksgiving Day game.

  64. ruvelligwebuike says: Nov 8, 2011 10:30 AM

    Remember when the Packers had no running game and gave up too many yards last year? How’d those two weak areas look once January came?

  65. leofan1234 says: Nov 8, 2011 10:31 AM

    grizzlybear34 says:
    Nov 8, 2011 9:44 AM
    “In 16 days, the Lions get a crack at the Pack”

    In 6 days, the Bears get a crack at the Lions, let’s not crown them just yet…

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    should be a good game, but if the Bears beat the Lions Sunday, what does that really prove since we beat you earlier in the season?

  66. boover3 says: Nov 8, 2011 10:34 AM

    2. 49ers (No. 2; 7-1): The Niners have a better formula than the Packers to win games in January.

    Yes, if it was 1975.

    Is Alex Smith a part of that formula?

  67. smokinjoes91 says: Nov 8, 2011 10:35 AM

    Ok, maybe I could stomach seeing the Panthers over the Titans purely based off potential. However, potential doesn’t seem good enough to win games as is evidenced by their record. But the Vikings over the Titans is a mistake. I don’t think there is any chance the Vikings end up with a better record because as of right now; Hasselbeck>Ponder and NFC North>AFC South.

  68. gosuhgo says: Nov 8, 2011 10:40 AM

    Man I wish the Lions played the Ravens..I hate seeing them so high in the power rankings each week. They are not that good. The unevenness of every game is incredible. Flacco may have had his 92 yard drive but half the time he’s a high schooler out there.

  69. xtb3 says: Nov 8, 2011 10:43 AM

    how elite was eli when he threw the interception in t5he endzone AGAIN from the patriots 5 yard line to put new england back in the game they were being badly beaten? just as he lost the seattle game from the same spot on the field a couple of weeks back or the dallas game last year from the dallas one that lost the game and turned around the whole season at that point.

  70. gcsuk says: Nov 8, 2011 10:46 AM

    Soulman45 says: Nov 8, 2011 9:42 AM

    Frist to say THE GREAT DETROIT LIONS should be #3 what have NY done?
    ———————————————————————–
    Let me be the “first” to say “please use spell-check”! Same stupid typo 2 days in a row, same stupid comment.

    What have the “great” Detroit Lions done lately, besides have that “perfect season” a few years back? Any Super Bowl titles come to mind?

  71. rabidbillsfan says: Nov 8, 2011 10:46 AM

    @snarkzilla

    That should read that the AFC North is the BEST division in football, they have more complete teams than what you boast in your “Net Points” division. I am a biliever in the 9ers as well, they have the formula right now to beat any team in the league. Yes, I’m looking at you GB. How can a team that gets 12 pts. air mailed to them only lose by 7 points to a team that struggled mightily the last 2 weeks. I get it that they are 8-0, but there are better teams out there that they just haven’t played, or won’t play.

  72. ninerallday says: Nov 8, 2011 10:48 AM

    bigpara says: Nov 8, 2011 10:21 AM

    It’s funny, Giants won’t beat the Eagles, Bills or Patriots and now they won’t beat the 9ers. From the reports Gore isn’t going to play and the 9ers game revolves around Gore. Giant will be healthier, 9ers will get blown out
    Also the 9ers are also ranked what 21th in passing defense and the Giants love to throw the ball. Ballard will destroy the middle of that d.
    ***********************************************
    Not sure if you heard but Frank Gore will be fine, he had a slight sprain but said he would play. So that answers that question.

    And also, we have a player by the name of PATRICK WILLIS, not sure if you have heard of em but Ballard wont be doing anything down the middle. Willis had the seam locked!

  73. stanmark says: Nov 8, 2011 10:48 AM

    #11 is the best description ever.

  74. thridandlong says: Nov 8, 2011 10:48 AM

    Little respect Mike,

    The Lions have the Bears in Soldier field in 6 days.

    We won’t look past that one, neither should the Lions as the Eagles did against the Bears.

    Bear fan

  75. mrjackson206 says: Nov 8, 2011 10:48 AM

    2. 49ers (No. 2; 7-1): The Niners have a better formula than the Packers to win games in January.

    Worked well enough for the Packers last year. The niners are great defensively, but not great enough to come to Lambeau and shut Rodgers down.

    ——————

    That’s the same thing Detroit fans were yacking before they got beat too. I’d be more worried about that D looking kind of suspect now. Because right about now that D would cost your team the game if they played the Niners.

    If anything you Packers fans should be thanking the Niners organization that they passed on Rogers. Most of you all are just here hating anyhow because we’re winning with Alex Smith. Looks like that man isn’t so bad after all with competent coaching!! Hmmmmm.

    Yessssir one of the premier NFL franchises has re-awakened!! Niners for life.

  76. ninerallday says: Nov 8, 2011 10:50 AM

    boover3 says: Nov 8, 2011 10:34 AM

    2. 49ers (No. 2; 7-1): The Niners have a better formula than the Packers to win games in January.

    Yes, if it was 1975.

    Is Alex Smith a part of that formula?
    ***********************************************

    If he continues to manage the game and doesnt do mistakes, damn right he is part of the formula. He has been doing great 2 interceptions all year. i think he deserves some credit for that.

    Its about balance and if we continue to pound the rock we dont need an elite QB. Last time i checked Passing yards per game did not win Games.

  77. norcalmafia says: Nov 8, 2011 10:54 AM

    Wonder what the excuse will be when the 9ersgame defense aka? (Fort Knox) sends the Giants back to new york with their tales between their legs and probably a couple injured running backs….They get no love cause they dont throw the ball all over the field but unlike the Raiders we just win baby!

  78. jrmbadger says: Nov 8, 2011 10:56 AM

    ““The Niners have a better formula than the Packers to win games in January.””

    Huh? This might be one of the dumbest comments I’ve ever seen on this site. Not because the 49ers aren’t a good team, but because the Packers used the same exact “formula” last year and WON THE SUPERBOWL.

    Doh!

    Oh and the only “formula” that I need to know is this one:

    Aaron Rodgers > Alex Smith.

    End of story.

  79. norcalmafia says: Nov 8, 2011 10:59 AM

    Ask the Eagles how much passing yards matter when it comes to wins?

  80. golonger says: Nov 8, 2011 11:02 AM

    Please….one game does NOT make Eli elite…..nor does the abhorrent play & penalty by the Pats to set-up the winning score….it was a gift!

  81. golonger says: Nov 8, 2011 11:05 AM

    gosuhgo – the only thing high school is your thinking. The Lions are over-rated and are going nowhere…..they will fall apart before the end of the season…and would get CRUSHED by the Ravens or the Steelers….get real

  82. marcsasharc says: Nov 8, 2011 11:06 AM

    i love how people insinuate that SF has played a weak schedule when in actuality theyve played the 2nd hardest schedule in the NFL at this point.

    facts>opinions

    hate all you want, but at least hate with some actual proof.

  83. greenpacker says: Nov 8, 2011 11:06 AM

    green bay packers are definitely a top ten team!

    but how can the bears be ranked better than the bills? the bears sucked last night, they’re best player (matt fortay) played like our worst player (randall cobb)

  84. blu4l1fe says: Nov 8, 2011 11:07 AM

    Wow, bad time for the Eagles to play lousy especially when they’re trying to climb up on the standings. Let’s see, I must admit, I was probably one of the few Giants fans that dismissed and didn’t even make a big deal of Eli’s comments when he said he belonged in the “Elite Class of QB’s in the NFL. But come on, even you doubters and haters can’t deny he’s been playing well and has never been this consistent in his career, counting the SuperBowl season. And all the talk of the “collapse.” Again, WOW, keep waiting on that collapse since you guys have nothing going on anyways. We’re in the best shape out of all the teams in the NFC East and everyone’s predicting, never mind winning the division, that we won’t even make the playoffs. REALLY!!!

  85. bordner says: Nov 8, 2011 11:09 AM

    1. Packers (No. 1; 8-0): Halfway to an undefeated season, the Packers’ defense is suddenly alarmingly porous.

    2. 49ers (No. 2; 7-1): The Niners have a better formula than the Packers to win games in January.
    ———————————-
    The Niners may have a good D, but not as good as the Packers O.

    The Packers may have a porous D, but the Niners have Alex Smith.

    Whether the game is played at Lambeau or the Stick, the Packers win it either way.

  86. mt99808 says: Nov 8, 2011 11:09 AM

    How the hell are the Giants ahead of Lions and Ravens and probably 5 more teams after that?

    They got spanked by Washington, lost to Seattle at home and 4 of their 6 wins on their resume include:

    Home win vs Rams
    4 point win @ Arizona
    3 point win at home vs Bills
    3 point win at home vs Dolphins

    Combined record of Giants opponents is 21-35

    Compared to Lions 34-40 and Balt 32-35. Quit ranking to appease markets and put some actual logic behind the rankings.

  87. danospleasanton says: Nov 8, 2011 11:09 AM

    Has anyone here played football in the snow or rain? If you have you would know the passing game goes out the window. The Packers are DYNAMITE in the air but you better hope your playoff games are in domes or have perfect weather. On your own field I would take the 9ers in the snow or rain. I wonder what type of weather this winter will bring.

  88. mt99808 says: Nov 8, 2011 11:10 AM

    That should be Lions 34-30

  89. Nevis says: Nov 8, 2011 11:11 AM

    rpiotr01 says:
    Nov 8, 2011 9:50 AM
    “The Niners have a better formula than the Packers to win games in January.”

    What’s this supposed to mean? “Running the ball and stopping the run?” Are you stuck in the 90′s?

    The formula for success in January is to have a devastating passing attack and a defense that doesn’t give up a lot of TDs.

    ——————————————

    Tell that to the ’07 Pats, the ’08 Cards, the ’09 Colts, the ’10 Saints etc.

    You better know how to run and you better know how to play defense because you’re asking way, way too much of your QB otherwise.

  90. xstaticonradio says: Nov 8, 2011 11:14 AM

    Chiefs at number 18? They’ve been absolutely demolished in 3 of their 4 losses including by a previously 0-7 team. Two of their wins were because they played butterfingers Rivers and Kyle Boller. They might as well be 2-6, and those wins were against the Colts and Vikings

    They’re terrible

  91. comeonnowguys says: Nov 8, 2011 11:16 AM

    rabidbillsfan says: Nov 8, 2011 10:46 AM

    @snarkzilla

    That should read that the AFC North is the BEST division in football, they have more complete teams than what you boast in your “Net Points” division. I am a biliever in the 9ers as well, they have the formula right now to beat any team in the league. Yes, I’m looking at you GB. How can a team that gets 12 pts. air mailed to them only lose by 7 points to a team that struggled mightily the last 2 weeks. I get it that they are 8-0, but there are better teams out there that they just haven’t played, or won’t play.

    Bears are 5-3. Their losses? Saints (playoff team), Packers (division) and Lions (division). They’re not even tied for second.

    It’s the best division in football right now.

  92. xstaticonradio says: Nov 8, 2011 11:17 AM

    Oh and the 2-6 Vikings ranked above the Titans, Browns and others? You’re such a homer. Vikings should be #27 at best

  93. nyyankeedave says: Nov 8, 2011 11:18 AM

    1 – After a decade of crap, I can excuse the Niners’ fan’s over-confidence.

    2 – Green Bay is not unbeatable. Giants, Saints, Bears, Niners, Jets, Pats, Steelers, and Ravens are all VERY capable of knocking off GB. Remember Kurt Warner’s Rams and the ’07 Patriots – arguably the GREATEST offensive machines ever assembled – but they lost. In today’s NFL, NOTHING is a guaranteed, Pack.

    2001: Kurt Warner > Tom Brady (who?)

    2007: Tom Brady (18-0, 50 tds) > Eli Manning (knocked of GB in NFC CHAMPIONSHIP)

    How’d those work out?

  94. rabidbillsfan says: Nov 8, 2011 11:21 AM

    You want to know how to spot a Bandwagoneer? They have no clue what they are talking about. jrmbadger, did you watch all 4 of the packers post-season games? If so, why would you make such an idiotic statement? The Packers played Defense 10x better then, then what they are now. They also ran the ball much better. Rodgers had two statistically good games IN Atlanta, and IN Dallas (SB), both with controlled enviroments. The Defense and running game won the other two OUTDOOR games, which is where you will play in January, IN Lambeau! I mean your QB is all high and mighty, but the guy hasn’t even hosted a Playoff game yet. So, like the Patriots of seasons past, go ahead and beat on me Sept.-Dec., but show me you can win something when it REALLY counts.

  95. kennyrogerschicken says: Nov 8, 2011 11:21 AM

    2. 49ers (No. 2; 7-1): The Niners have a better formula than the Packers to win games in January.

    ———————————–

    They still have Alex Smith starting, so good luck with that formula.

  96. jamal1971 says: Nov 8, 2011 11:22 AM

    I guess that PFT doesn’t want to believe in the Bengals because they played a weak schedule,but you can say the same thing about the Steelers,Ravens and Browns as well. I get the picture,the Bengals were “supposed” to suck,but the pundits have their panties in a bunch because the Bengals are pulling a Charlie Sheen:WINNING. If the Bengals go even split in the next two games,they will make the playoffs.

  97. gcsuk says: Nov 8, 2011 11:23 AM

    Gee, I really miss the days of Bill Walsh and Joe Montana. You know, when the 49ers used to win with class and keep their mouths shut.

  98. gcsuk says: Nov 8, 2011 11:26 AM

    Do people realize this is NOT the BCS, and these rankings have no actual meaning?

  99. ninernation49 says: Nov 8, 2011 11:32 AM

    Niners D > Aaron Rogers!

    For all you packers fans cheering about home field advantage in January…..Who says you got that wrapped up yet? The bears D is stout too, and you haven’t touched the Lions yet. We will see how tough you are when you face a team with a decent defense. One of which the Niners already took care of. Quit hating and just watch and see what these West coast boys can do! That Niner D is Mean!

  100. howley1 says: Nov 8, 2011 11:34 AM

    I get the picture,the Bengals were “supposed” to suck,but the pundits have their panties in a bunch because the Bengals are pulling a Charlie Sheen:WINNING.

    ————————————————————–

    Yeah but Charlie ain’t exactly winning in reality.
    Which I guess is pretty appropriate to the comparison.

  101. marcsasharc says: Nov 8, 2011 11:38 AM

    9er fans have been relatively level headed all things considered. quit the jealousy and quit hating.

  102. rabidbillsfan says: Nov 8, 2011 11:39 AM

    Well, maybe I have to explain myself further. AFC North is better, because they are more COMPLETE. And, just to show your logic is flawed, comeonnowguys, The Ravens beat the Jets, and the Steelers twice. The Steelers beat the Patriots. Also, The Bengals beat the Bills, other notable wins? Baltimore over Houston, I could care less about the losses, they beat better teams. Look at the statistical categories and see why they are complete. All 4 teams are in the top 6 in Defense, while only the Lions crack the top 10, and your two “best” teams, Bears and Packers, arent even in the top 20. The offense’s are more balanced than the Pass heavy Packers and Lions, and the Run heavy Vikings and Bears. Oh yeah, there is this guy by the name of Matt Forte that makes up almost half the yards for the Bears Offense, that tells me who to focus on.

  103. golonger says: Nov 8, 2011 11:39 AM

    jamal1971 – ah….no moron….no you can’t…..Ravens have played the Texans, Jets, and the Steelers twice…….educate yourself before you speak!

  104. marcsasharc says: Nov 8, 2011 11:40 AM

    and people act like one team cant beat another only because of the QB comparison. like they actually are on the field at the same time.

    its pretty humorous.

  105. jakek2 says: Nov 8, 2011 11:41 AM

    Giants fan here. Now that we’ve been ranked up high, SF will kill us. PFT….please keep us ranked somewhere in the middle!!

  106. ddjesus says: Nov 8, 2011 11:42 AM

    If anything you Packers fans should be thanking the Niners organization that they passed on Rogers. Most of you all are just here hating anyhow because we’re winning with Alex Smith.

    _________________

    Lmao, what do packer fans have to hate on, that noodle armed game manager you call a quarterback, whom has never done anything significant for your team?

  107. nyyankeedave says: Nov 8, 2011 11:43 AM

    gcsuk says:

    Gee, I really miss the days of Bill Walsh and Joe Montana. You know, when the 49ers used to win with class and keep their mouths shut.

    ===============================

    Like the much “classier” Packers, Cowboys and Steelers fans do now?

  108. pkrjones says: Nov 8, 2011 11:43 AM

    Nevis says:Nov 8, 2011 11:11 AM

    You better know how to run and you better know how to play defense because you’re asking way, way too much of your QB otherwise.”
    You do realize that Aaron Rodgers IS the QB that you’re talking about, right? THE Aaron Rodgers that has: 24 TD’s-3 INT’s; 129.1 passer rating; a completion percentage of 72.5%… don’t think anyone’s asking too much of him during this MVP season.

  109. forever8young says: Nov 8, 2011 11:47 AM

    Like Jimmy H says,

    “Who’s got it better than us? Noooooobody!!”

  110. brooklynniner19 says: Nov 8, 2011 11:49 AM

    Gcsucka: I’m glad you miss the days the 49ers dominated he league. Looks like we are going back to the old days 7-1 , HAHA!! P.S. correct if I’m wrong but I don’t see Jim H. And Alex smith talking trash or not being humble. So your comparison to Montana and Walsh are WRONG!

  111. snarkzilla says: Nov 8, 2011 11:52 AM

    >your QB is all high and mighty, but the guy hasn’t even hosted a Playoff game yet. So, like the Patriots of seasons past, go ahead and beat on me Sept.-Dec., but show me you can win something when it REALLY counts.

    Rodgers won 6 must-win games, all on the road, on the way to the Super Bowl championship. That counts.

    Hosting a playoff game: the ultimate NFL achievement for a Bills fan.

  112. The Phantom Stranger says: Nov 8, 2011 11:52 AM

    davem23 says:
    Nov 8, 2011 10:23 AM
    Vikings @21? Curious how this was determined. Seems like the Panthers, Titans, and Broncos are better.
    ____________

    Well, the Vikings beat the Panthers a week ago, so that was probably taken into consideration.

  113. 8man says: Nov 8, 2011 11:56 AM

    The Ravens have done what they needed to do to get a leg up on winning the division. Their two games against the Bengals will decide the rest.

    The Iggles and Patriots both are watching the air slowly fizz out of their balloons. The Green Birds may be done and the Jets can effectively terminate New England Sunday night.

  114. splashtacular says: Nov 8, 2011 11:58 AM

    9’ers have better formula? Let’s break it down.

    49’ers Defense is playing at a better level than the Packers.

    Packers Offense is playing at a better level than the 49’ers.

    Without looking into the value of the Offense and Defense…so far the equation is equal. However, when you look into the value, you’d have to be high to assume the 49’ers have a better formula. For instance, the 49ers do have a better defense, however they aren’t always miles ahead of their opponent like the Pack (forcing the Packs opponents to air it out all day). Now, the Packers offense is leaps and bounds and miles and miles and miles ahead of the 49ers, the 49ers D doesn’t out weigh the significant value of the Packers offense over the 49ers offense. Plus the Pack has the majority of their home games to come.

    Don’t get me wrong, San Fran has a REALLY good team; I just find the whole “formula” thing to be a bit off.

  115. The Phantom Stranger says: Nov 8, 2011 11:58 AM

    xstaticonradio says:
    Nov 8, 2011 11:17 AM
    Oh and the 2-6 Vikings ranked above the Titans, Browns and others? You’re such a homer. Vikings should be #27 at best
    ___________

    If you just want them to rank order teams by record, that wouldn’t be very interesting. Teams are ranked by how good they are right now. The Vikings are a different team with Ponder at QB instead of McNabb. I don’t know how Ponder would have performed if he had started from the first game, but if he was as good then as he is now, they would probably be 5-3 or 4-4 at worst.

  116. zackattack410 says: Nov 8, 2011 12:02 PM

    thegreatwhitemidget says: Nov 8, 2011 9:30 AM

    #8 you miss spelled Tom Brady and we’d welker…then 50 piles of crap…that’s the real team that should be there

    _________________________________

    You misspelled misspelled

  117. snarkzilla says: Nov 8, 2011 12:02 PM

    > AFC North is better, because they are more COMPLETE.

    Well, let’s see. Leaving out the Cleveland debacle, the AFC North has produced losses to Jacksonville and Denver so far. So if you’re counting losing to crappy teams, then the AFC North is more complete.

  118. jamal1971 says: Nov 8, 2011 12:02 PM

    golonger: the last time the Bengals played the Steelers and the Ravens in back to back games,they won both,so anything is possible. Look this team has taken the one time at a time,there is no pick-six Palmer,Ochostinko and T.NO. on this team,it is a bunch of no names who are playing as a team. It has been fun to watch.

  119. Nevis says: Nov 8, 2011 12:02 PM

    pkrjones says:
    Nov 8, 2011 11:43 AM
    Nevis says:Nov 8, 2011 11:11 AM

    You better know how to run and you better know how to play defense because you’re asking way, way too much of your QB otherwise.”
    You do realize that Aaron Rodgers IS the QB that you’re talking about, right? THE Aaron Rodgers that has: 24 TD’s-3 INT’s; 129.1 passer rating; a completion percentage of 72.5%… don’t think anyone’s asking too much of him during this MVP season.

    ———————————-

    Yes, the same QB who is one injury away from letting the air out of your team completely.

    Ask the Colts how life is trying to win in a scenario where 100% of it falls on your QB.

    Rodgers is playing out of his mind, but he one plays in one phase of the game. If a team were to get to him, throw him off, Green Bay is in trouble.

  120. sfwillis52 says: Nov 8, 2011 12:04 PM

    Where are all the Eagle fans from last week? Where is all the trash talking about how they are turning it around and can’t wait for their rematch in SF during the playoffs? It’s funny how people can have so much confidence in a team that has only 3 wins and still can’t beat a team with a winning record. I heard Keyshawn Johnson say before the game, “The Eagles are currently the 2nd best team in the NFC.” All because of a 2 game winning streak against teams with a 4-4 and 3-5 record. 49ers are on a 6 game winning streak and seem to be an after thought to 95% of anyone associated with football. That’s fine as far as I am concerned. Best defense in the league, 2nd best special teams, 2nd best turnover differential, 2nd hardest scheduled played so far, great coaching, and a ground and pound that has been unstoppable the last 5 games

  121. ruvelligwebuike says: Nov 8, 2011 12:04 PM

    Green Bay’s rushing offense this year”

    Starks: 96 carries, 440 yards, 4.6 avg

    Grant: 61 carries, 240 yards, 4.0 avg

    For fun…Rodgers: 37 for 127 and a pair of scores.

    Are they really that ineffective, or are they just going to be REALLY well rested when it’s time to make it happen?

    By the way, 25 for 132 in the rain on Sunday. Keep hatin’, Rabidbillsfan. And your barb about Rodgers not hosting playoff games? Sorry, he was too busy winning four road playoff games against #1, #2, and #3 seeds to worry about it.

    All barbs aside, I like small market teams and I’m pulling for the Bills. I hope you can pull off a playoff appearance this decade.

  122. nineroutsider says: Nov 8, 2011 12:05 PM

    donmajik7 says: Nov 8, 2011 10:15 AM

    I know they just play the schedule their given but Niners fans have now become as annoying and overconfident as Lions Fans!!!
    ———————————————————
    Niner fans have every reason to be confident; they have a good football team. They remind me a lot of the San Francisco Giants…a team built for the playoffs. That defense can keep them in any game and they are still learning the offense; Harbaugh hasn’t fully unleashed what they are practicing.

    Part of being a fan is enjoying the winning because the losing is so awful. After a decade of losing 9er fans deserve to enjoy this season and the many more to come.

    I know that the best team in the league is the Packers, but as the saying goes…on any given Sunday. Hopefully I don’t have to go to Lambeau, but if the Niners earn the right I will be there. The Niners are the only team that can give the Packers a run for the money. Watch it unfold before your very eyes.

  123. failcopter says: Nov 8, 2011 12:10 PM

    So the Chiefs shut out Oak at home and then Oak looses to Tebow…. but still they are tops in the division?

    —————————————————-
    Might have something to do with the fact that Miami held KC to 3 points.

  124. ruvelligwebuike says: Nov 8, 2011 12:18 PM

    “Has anyone here played football in the snow or rain? If you have you would know the passing game goes out the window. The Packers are DYNAMITE in the air but you better hope your playoff games are in domes or have perfect weather. On your own field I would take the 9ers in the snow or rain. I wonder what type of weather this winter will bring.”
    ————————–

    Yeah, McCarthy’s pass happy offenses hate running the ball in snow games. Last ones I remember?

    ’07 playoffs: Ryan Grant- 27 atts, 201 yards, 3TD’s.

    ’10 playoffs at Philly: James Starks- 23 atts, 123 yards

    ’10 playoffs at Chi: Starks- 23 atts, 78 yrds, 1 TD.

  125. marcsasharc says: Nov 8, 2011 12:19 PM

    the only reason why people think the packers have a better formula is because they havent lost yet. they have also not played many good teams. the packers will come down to earth. and although may hate SF a team which is built to have a stout defense and an effective smash mouth offense is more suited for playoff football than what the Packers have. thats not to say the 9ers are better than the packers or will beat them, but lets consider all the factors and make a reasonable response rather than some hot air crap.

    did we forget the Patriots super bowl loss to the Giants? the packers are a lot like that team while SF is a lot like that Giants team. would New England have won that game 8 out of 10 times? maybe. but in 1 game a more balanced team is likely to prevail. also, the packers D got 2 absolute gifts from Rivers, who is this years most disappointing player(yes im aware of Chris Johnson).

    and i know im looking far down the road because hte NFL is week to week, but if SF beats the Giants and Ravens and GB loses to Detroit, which team would you guys call the best team in the NFL?

    again, that is completely hypothetical and i personally believe SF goes 1-1 in the next 2 games.

  126. jrmbadger says: Nov 8, 2011 12:21 PM

    “rabidbillsfan says:
    Nov 8, 2011 11:21 AM”

    I’ve been following the Packers for over 20 years and have watched almost every game in that span including all playoff games. A “bandwagon” fan I am not.

    I give you that their defense played better last year, however they still have most of the same talent and I expect that to turn around. At the same time their offense is BETTER this year and their defense is forcing a LOT of turnovers so the amount of yards given up is a bit misleading.

    As far as watching the Packers play…. it’s pretty obvious you haven’t watched them play if you are saying that their run game was better last year. This year the Pack is averaging 104 yards per game rushing. During their playoff run last year they were averaging 101.

    Oh and while your on your high and mighty horse about cold weather passing performances, please see 12/26/2010 Lambeau field against the NYG – 25/37 for 404 yards 4 TD 0 INT.

  127. southpaw2k says: Nov 8, 2011 12:28 PM

    As much as I loved Sunday night’s win, Week 10’s game for the Ravens is a classic trap game. Going on the road across country to Seattle sandwiched between two divisional games is the perfect opportunity for the Ravens to shoot themselves in the foot yet again. I sure hope Harbaugh and co. drill that point home in the locker room and in practice this week, because otherwise they could end up praying for help come weeks 16 and 17 to win the division instead of controlling things for themselves.

  128. downsouth49er says: Nov 8, 2011 12:41 PM

    So much hate for the 49ers….WE LOVE IT!! Hate on haterz!!!!!!!

  129. ruvelligwebuike says: Nov 8, 2011 12:41 PM

    “I know that the best team in the league is the Packers, but as the saying goes…on any given Sunday. Hopefully I don’t have to go to Lambeau, but if the Niners earn the right I will be there. The Niners are the only team that can give the Packers a run for the money. Watch it unfold before your very eyes.”
    ————————

    Now that’s a real fan. I hope it happens. Come on out to Green Bay, and experience the best gameday experience in America. Get ready to drink… a lot.

  130. whitecastleisafoodgroup says: Nov 8, 2011 12:49 PM

    Might as well drop the Lions out of the 10-15 now. They will be lucky to go 1-3 over the next 4 games.

  131. norcalmafia says: Nov 8, 2011 1:17 PM

    If we go to GB to play the packers dou you have to wear a bulletproof vest and gangsign handbook like at Candlestick?

  132. oriolesvsravens says: Nov 8, 2011 1:18 PM

    I think they just crowned the Giants.

  133. rodgerthat says: Nov 8, 2011 1:29 PM

    Nevis says:
    Yes, the same QB who is one injury away from letting the air out of your team completely.
    ————————-
    I see this comment a lot and makes no sense as an arguement for the success of a team. You can pretty much make that statement about every single team out there. Especially the playoff bound teams. I would like to know one team that has playoff possibilities that can lose their quarterback and still get to the superbowl? With that said I think green bay has a pretty good back up in Flynn. Not in the same cloud as ARod but probably better than 20 other starting QB’s playing right now.

  134. rickyhenderson says: Nov 8, 2011 1:38 PM

    WooHoo! Cardinals! Movin on up!
    We gonna start our own league, then you’ll see!
    Ehh, who am I kidding. Obviously being a Cards fan, I just love me some football!

  135. briank1ne says: Nov 8, 2011 1:45 PM

    absolute garbage I tell you. Its like…any team that beats the patriots…goes up…wayyyyy up. let me tell you something…the patriots are way overated. they have 2 good players on offense and a head coach. thats about all. Media needs to stop acting like the patriots are the returning superbowl champs with their LAST PLACE rated defense.

  136. superchunks says: Nov 8, 2011 2:13 PM

    I’m guessing that after the Bears beat the Lions on Sunday they will move up to 11.

  137. somesome says: Nov 8, 2011 2:26 PM

    gosuhgo says:
    Nov 8, 2011 10:40 AM
    Man I wish the Lions played the Ravens..I hate seeing them so high in the power rankings each week. They are not that good. The unevenness of every game is incredible. Flacco may have had his 92 yard drive but half the time he’s a high schooler out there.

    If the Lions WOULD play the Ravens then Stafford would be out for the rest of the season AGAIN – he ain’t no Ben …. Lions O against Sizzle, Ngata and Lewis – not a pretty picture.

  138. bobhk says: Nov 8, 2011 2:31 PM

    Lions probably ranked too high…

  139. 46defense says: Nov 8, 2011 2:33 PM

    “I see this comment a lot and makes no sense as an arguement for the success of a team. You can pretty much make that statement about every single team out there. Especially the playoff bound teams. I would like to know one team that has playoff possibilities that can lose their quarterback and still get to the superbowl? With that said I think green bay has a pretty good back up in Flynn. Not in the same cloud as ARod but probably better than 20 other starting QB’s playing right now.”
    – – –

    I agree with most of this. Any team loses it’s starting qb is done.

    However if you think Flynn is better than 20 starting NFL QB’s you’re delusional. He’s better than Tebow though for sure…

  140. catchhester23 says: Nov 8, 2011 3:15 PM

    Go ahead and look past the bears lions fans after sunday the bears will reclaim 2nd in the nfc north. Thanksgiving will still be the tradition of the lions getting thumped. Glad everyone is so excited for that. Loose 2 win 1 is a bad pattern to get into the playoffs with. How you finish not start.

  141. bobbywalsh45 says: Nov 8, 2011 3:19 PM

    Ravens (No. 7; 6-2): If the offense that showed up late in the Steelers game had shown up against the Titans and Jaguars, the Ravens would be undefeated.

    hah yeah and if your team can score 15 points against those teams, you generally win. what a dumb comment

  142. richm2256 says: Nov 8, 2011 3:20 PM

    I’d be the first to say that the Patriots are ranked a couple of spots too high.

    Just when that defense finally showed us something during that Giants game, they fall as flat as the Pat’s offense has been.

    Bill, get those front lines straightened up, ditch 85 and find a decent wideout with some speed left, and for God’s sakes, do SOMETHING about that secondary.

    Still a whole half a season to get back on track.

  143. bobhk says: Nov 8, 2011 3:21 PM

    Can we put to rest Niners easy schedule. To date, Niners opp W-L is 31-32. One of the toughest in the league. It’s about to get easier with the division games coming up.

  144. brewdogg says: Nov 8, 2011 3:47 PM

    rodgerthat says:
    Nov 8, 2011 1:29 PM
    Nevis says:
    Yes, the same QB who is one injury away from letting the air out of your team completely.
    ————————-
    I see this comment a lot and makes no sense as an arguement for the success of a team. You can pretty much make that statement about every single team out there. Especially the playoff bound teams. I would like to know one team that has playoff possibilities that can lose their quarterback and still get to the superbowl? With that said I think green bay has a pretty good back up in Flynn. Not in the same cloud as ARod but probably better than 20 other starting QB’s playing right now.
    ————————

    Leave it to a Packers homer to think their backup QB is better than 20 other teams’ starters. Give me a break….. So he dinked and dunked a soft Patriots defense and still lost. Woo-hoo…..

  145. jimboslice208 says: Nov 8, 2011 3:52 PM

    Niners have played ONE division game thus far and that was Seattle in week one. So lets put their “weak schedule” talk to rest. Were their wins against the Browns and Skins exciting? Not at all. But they are winning games that they most likely would have lost the previous eight years.

    With that said, this weeks game against the Giants should be a fun smash-mouth style game. If the Niners win, maybe then they will start getting respect from other fans.

    Why the hate still for Alex Smith? Is he a great QB? No, far from being great. But he is managing games well and has only thrown 2 ints all season; the fewest of all starting QBs.

  146. comeonnowguys says: Nov 8, 2011 4:22 PM

    @rabidbillsfan

    Complete teams don’t lose to the Jags and Titans. Repeating complete in all caps does not make it so.

  147. youdownwithjpp says: Nov 8, 2011 4:48 PM

    oriolesvsravens says:
    Nov 8, 2011 1:18 PM
    I think they just crowned the Giants.

    ——————————————

    I’m a Giants fan and to be honest, I agree with you. I’d put several teams above the Giants. But another 2 quality wins and I think the G-Men will deserve a top 5 spot (maybe even 3). ESPN’s and Yahoo’s power ranking are far more realistic, check them out.

  148. ruvelligwebuike says: Nov 8, 2011 5:00 PM

    “Leave it to a Packers homer to think their backup QB is better than 20 other teams’ starters. Give me a break….. So he dinked and dunked a soft Patriots defense and still lost. Woo-hoo…..”
    ———————-

    Leave it to a Vikings know-nothing, bandwagon, fairweather joke to think their starting quarterback is better than anyone. Give me a break…so he went 13-32 with a TD and 2 picks against a soft Packers defense and still lost. Woo-hoo….

  149. flabtreesports says: Nov 8, 2011 5:28 PM

    AFCN Fun Facts:

    Baltimore is 4-0 against teams with a winning record (by an avg score of 15.75), and their 6 wins come against teams with 26 combined wins.

    Cincinnati is 1-1 against teams with a winning record, and their 6 wins come against teams with 16 combined wins.

    Pittsburgh is 1-3 against teams with a winning record, and their 6 wins come against teams with 15 combined wins.

  150. rwjk says: Nov 8, 2011 5:58 PM

    these rankings are a disgrace to nfl bloggers everywhere. you can’t possibly be taken seriously ever again after ranking the giants higher than the ravens. that is literally unbelievable. i feel ashamed of myself for having ever wasted time reading anything you have ever posted. and i hope you delete this comment within the next 30 seconds

  151. yelix says: Nov 8, 2011 6:40 PM

    18 sounds about right for my Chiefs. They piss me off for 3 weeks, amaze me for 4 more, and then make me scratch my head against Miami. They’re Jekyll and Hyde. With more consistent play, they could finish 8-8 or so. 6-10 or 7-9 is more likely though.

  152. MossMoon2Packers says: Nov 8, 2011 6:50 PM

    Rodgers is playing phenomenally well. And the Packers’ success all comes down to Rodgers, because the Packers’ defense has played craptastically. If Rodgers gets injured or a defense puts enough pressure on Rodgers to throw-off the Packers’ passing attack, then the Packers will come crashing down like a house of cards. Want proof? Look no further than the 18-1 2007 Patriots and what happened to Tom Brady (who was phenomenal passing that year) when the Giants’ defense attacked him mercilessly in the SB. In the playoffs, defense wins titles, and the Packers don’t have a good one.

  153. trickbunny says: Nov 8, 2011 8:27 PM

    As a Browns fan, I really take exception to them being listed at #27. Have you seen the offense play?

    They really ought to be at #32! ;)

  154. jessethegreat says: Nov 8, 2011 9:37 PM

    nineroutsider says:
    Nov 8, 2011 12:05 PM
    donmajik7 says: Nov 8, 2011 10:15 AM

    I know they just play the schedule their given but Niners fans have now become as annoying and overconfident as Lions Fans!!!
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    Niner fans have every reason to be confident; they have a good football team. They remind me a lot of the San Francisco Giants…a team built for the playoffs. That defense can keep them in any game and they are still learning the offense; Harbaugh hasn’t fully unleashed what they are practicing.
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    They remind me of the San Fran Giants too. Their offense will disappear when they face a real team like the Bears or Packers in the Playoffs. The old addage that defense wins championships is garbage in today’s NFL. Offense wins championships. Defense just keeps you in the game. The 4ers D might stop Rodgers 2/3 times, but he will still lead the Packers to more points than Trent Dilfer reincarnate will lead the 9ers to.

  155. artflooney says: Nov 8, 2011 9:59 PM

    If the Browns and Colts replayed their game right now, the Colts would blow them off the field. We killed our chance for Andrew Luck with three BS wins over the other worst teams in the league. If we don’t have some miracle Colt McCoy drive, his one and only of the season, and some phantom penalty, this team could be in the drivers seat to somehow screw up Luck’s career. Cade McNown is looking up Lucks girlfriend on google right now.

  156. jarrman46 says: Nov 8, 2011 10:00 PM

    Rodgers Brees and Eli Manning all are Super Bowl MVPs and all will most likely be in the NFC playoffs. Fortywhiners trott out Alex Smith and there talking like there going to start a dynasty. Please you guys couldnt even beat Tony Romo.
    Packers D has victorys over Rivers Brees Newton and Matt Ryan. Fortywhiners beat Vick and thats it. Even that is looking less impresive with every Eagles loss.
    Dont worry Fortywhiners you got plenty of games left against John Skelton and Tavarius Jackson and whoever the Rams throw out there
    There is no team in the NFL That Green Bay beats up more than the Fortywhiners. What is it like 20 straight now?

  157. jarrman46 says: Nov 8, 2011 10:07 PM

    Fortywhiners need to throw on that tape from last year of Donald Driver abusing your sorry DBs. Thats Green Bays sixth best recieving option.

  158. nyyankeedave says: Nov 8, 2011 10:16 PM

    jessethegreat says:

    They remind me of the San Fran Giants too. Their offense will disappear when they face a real team like the Bears or Packers in the Playoffs….The old addage that defense wins championships is garbage in today’s NFL.

    =========================

    Giants Just won a World Series with little to no offense, Rangers just lost one with no pitching, i.e. defense – And remember that undefeated Pats team with the greatest offense ever, NY’s D shut them down in the Super Bowl – Brilliant observations, Jess.

  159. nyyankeedave says: Nov 8, 2011 10:54 PM

    As a Jets fan, I hope some team, whoever, (except Pats) puts you Packers in your place – You guys want to talk down to SF & Buf fans for being over confident & annoying, at least they have a legitimate reason to be – they’ve sucked for the last 10 years – but what’s your excuse? Keep riding high, cheeseballs, talking down to the downtrodden, making Cowboys fans look Classy, in today’s NFL, and it has been proven time and time again, s*** comes around -and it comes around fast -so ya’ll best brace yourselves-I’m just saying.

  160. ninerallday says: Nov 8, 2011 11:12 PM

    jarrman46 says: Nov 8, 2011 10:07 PM

    Fortywhiners need to throw on that tape from last year of Donald Driver abusing your sorry DBs. Thats Green Bays sixth best recieving option.

    ***********************************************

    Im a 49er fan and i flew to Green Bay to watch that game. Unbelievable experience! And we got rid of all but one of our DB’s from last year so your argument doesnt say much.

    And by the way, we also have many more offensive weapons on offense than last year. And if i recall correctly our biggest offensive weapon, Frank the Tank, was injured for the game as well as Alex Smith. If smith continues to manage the game, it should be close.

    Oh and i almost forgot, who led the game in yards that game….. oh yeah it was VERNON DAVIS. Youve gotta admit he made your dbs look pathetic also.

  161. ninerallday says: Nov 8, 2011 11:20 PM

    jarrman46 says: Nov 8, 2011 10:00 PM

    Rodgers Brees and Eli Manning all are Super Bowl MVPs and all will most likely be in the NFC playoffs. Fortywhiners trott out Alex Smith and there talking like there going to start a dynasty. Please you guys couldnt even beat Tony Romo.
    Packers D has victorys over Rivers Brees Newton and Matt Ryan. Fortywhiners beat Vick and thats it. Even that is looking less impresive with every Eagles loss.

    *********************************************
    Are you Talking about the same Eli Manning that couldn’t beat the Seahawks with Tarvaris Jackson and Charlie Whitehurst as quarterbacks????? Pretty lame argument there.

    I could say something about Rivers, Brees (he lost to the rams right???) Newton and Ryan. The truth is that anything can happen on any given Sunday.

  162. gosuhgo says: Nov 8, 2011 11:24 PM

    marcsasharc says: Nov 8, 2011 12:19 PM

    and i know im looking far down the road because hte NFL is week to week, but if SF beats the Giants and Ravens and GB loses to Detroit, which team would you guys call the best team in the NFL?
    ____________________________
    I..would think the Lions were the best team in the NFL.

  163. sportsguybayarea says: Nov 8, 2011 11:40 PM

    dont wanna do any talking anymore. it wont get me anywhere. lets just all sit and watch the games. Giants at 49ers. Niners will do their talking on the field from here on out. Giants, Ravens and Steelers.

  164. trickbunny says: Nov 8, 2011 11:57 PM

    artflooney says:
    Nov 8, 2011 9:59 PM

    If the Browns and Colts replayed their game right now, the Colts would blow them off the field. We killed our chance for Andrew Luck with three BS wins over the other worst teams in the league. If we don’t have some miracle Colt McCoy drive, his one and only of the season…
    __________________________________

    Actually, he engineered a final drive comeback against Miami, too.

    Not that it means anything in the grand scale of suckitude.

  165. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 9, 2011 12:36 AM

    getyourownname says: Nov 8, 2011 9:31 AM

    In other words, regarding the Jets, it should be a win-win situation. But history tells us otherwise.

    BTW, any team that lost to the Deadskins cannot possibly be the No. 3 team.
    —————

    In a fluky Week 1 with literally half our starters out on the entire team and three total weeks of preparation with the guys who played that day?

    They’re #2 in my personal rankings and #3 is just right. You can’t possibly put anyone else before them and it is laughable that people can’t see through the smoke and mirrors that is 7-1 SF.

  166. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 9, 2011 1:06 AM

    Giants are the most balanced team in football.

  167. forever9ers says: Nov 9, 2011 2:34 AM

    GB needs Rodgers to throw 3+ TD to beat anybody. SF doesn’t need Smith to throw more than 1 TD to beat anybody. Rodgers is much better than Smith individually, but he is not 2 TD better than Smith & Harbaugh this year, and not against this Niners’ defense and special team especially not in bad weather.

  168. bealeman says: Nov 9, 2011 9:16 AM

    Would it be heresy to ask Rodgers and the Pack to lose a couple of games so I’ll have Rodgers playing all out during my fantasy championship run in weeks 14-16???

  169. rabidbillsfan says: Nov 9, 2011 10:18 AM

    @forever9ers

    Thank You, I guess putting it simply is the best way to put it. Whats the old saying? The 9ers Whole is greater than the sum of it’s parts? The same can’t be said about the Packers. There is just too much individuality on that team , Rodgers is having a great year, but by no means is it a team effort. The guys shoulders are broad, but when they face a team that can match them punch for punch, it will take more than #12 to pull out the W.

  170. cmahdavi says: Nov 9, 2011 6:57 PM

    49ers have a better strategy in Jan?

    I assume you mean playoffs… I assume you think running the ball and playing good defense are important when facing teams in winter due to the conditions…

    Consider where these games will be played…
    Detroit
    New Orleans
    San Francisco
    Atlanta
    Dallas (hey it could happen I’m a Giants fan and I still am scared)
    Tampa Bay (see above comment)
    and finally Green Bay (who will make the game a shoot out as they do not have a great D)

    How exactly in the NFC does that formula apply unless you are facing the Giants or the Bears… Which last I checked passed better than they ran and the other team has Mike “Who needs to run the ball” Martz as offensive coordinator….

  171. gwahknows says: Nov 9, 2011 6:57 PM

    GB needs Rodgers to throw 3+ TD to beat anybody. SF doesn’t need Smith to throw more than 1 TD to beat anybody. Rodgers is much better than Smith individually, but he is not 2 TD better than Smith & Harbaugh this year, and not against this Niners’ defense and special team especially not in bad weather.

    *****************************

    I would love to see the Niners at Lambeau in January. Niner fan is ALL bent because they drafted Alex Smith over a kid who grew up right outside San Fran and lived his entire childhood a Niners fan. The 49ers even told this kid they would take him #1 overall but flip-flopped before the draft and took Alex Smith. This kids name: AARON FREAKING RODGERS: The Best QB on the planet. (I know you all know the story I just want to make Niner Fan cringe.)

  172. brewdogg says: Nov 9, 2011 9:13 PM

    ruvelligwebuike says:
    Nov 8, 2011 5:00 PM
    “Leave it to a Packers homer to think their backup QB is better than 20 other teams’ starters. Give me a break….. So he dinked and dunked a soft Patriots defense and still lost. Woo-hoo…..”
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    Leave it to a Vikings know-nothing, bandwagon, fairweather joke to think their starting quarterback is better than anyone. Give me a break…so he went 13-32 with a TD and 2 picks against a soft Packers defense and still lost. Woo-hoo….
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    Awwww….did I hurt your widdle feelings? Since you couldn’t leave it alone…..

    First of all, how can you call a Vikings fan this season fair-weather or bandwagon? Maybe you should consult a dictionary before you start assigning adjectives to people…..

    Second, who brought up Ponder? Oh yeah, you did. I thought we were talking about Flynn here….

    If you protest, than I can only assume that you agree with the original statement. So tell me who the 12 QBs you think are better than Flynn are. Then we can ask the PFT posters if they think that Flynn, who lost both games in which he has seen extensive action, is better than the other 20. We’ll see what the people outside Green Bay think of the career 58.3%, 5.9 YPA, 3TD 4INT, 67.4 rating QB compared to the rest of the league’s starters. Go ahead, name your 12, I dare you.

    And I’m a know-nothing fool…….. Okay, skippy.

  173. jarrman46 says: Nov 9, 2011 10:15 PM

    Maybe Harbaugh can teach Alex Smith how too lose in a championship game just like he used too.

  174. acmepackers says: Nov 9, 2011 10:53 PM

    Of course the Packers’ hopes are riding on Rodgers. Is that supposed to be an insult??

    Any playoff-bound team would be screwed if their QB got hurt. I’m sure the Saints would be FINE without Brees;) Or the Giants without Eli;) Maybe Green Bay is a house of cards, but the smart money’s still on the Pack.

  175. packerbacker12 says: Nov 10, 2011 1:11 AM

    49er fans, until your team actually faces Aaron Rodgers and the Pack, it’s probably a good idea to shut the hell up.

  176. nyyankeedave says: Nov 10, 2011 10:41 AM

    Beginning to wonder how Lions, Bears, and Vikes fans put up with these Packer-fan d-bags every season – arrogant Packers fan garbage makes the Raider nation look like Sesame Street.

  177. supashug says: Nov 10, 2011 12:54 PM

    steelers should not be in the top 10

  178. childressrulz says: Nov 10, 2011 2:13 PM

    49ers couldn’t win a game in Lambeau it the Packers spotted them 14 points. Don’t get all pissed it is just the truth. I don’t care what their defense does Rodgers will still hang a 40 burger on them.

  179. ruvelligwebuike says: Nov 10, 2011 9:41 PM

    Nov 8, 2011 5:00 PM
    “Leave it to a Packers homer to think their backup QB is better than 20 other teams’ starters. Give me a break….. So he dinked and dunked a soft Patriots defense and still lost. Woo-hoo…..”
    ———————-

    Leave it to a Vikings know-nothing, bandwagon, fairweather joke to think their starting quarterback is better than anyone. Give me a break…so he went 13-32 with a TD and 2 picks against a soft Packers defense and still lost. Woo-hoo….
    ——————————

    Awwww….did I hurt your widdle feelings? Since you couldn’t leave it alone…..

    First of all, how can you call a Vikings fan this season fair-weather or bandwagon? Maybe you should consult a dictionary before you start assigning adjectives to people…..

    Second, who brought up Ponder? Oh yeah, you did. I thought we were talking about Flynn here….

    If you protest, than I can only assume that you agree with the original statement. So tell me who the 12 QBs you think are better than Flynn are. Then we can ask the PFT posters if they think that Flynn, who lost both games in which he has seen extensive action, is better than the other 20. We’ll see what the people outside Green Bay think of the career 58.3%, 5.9 YPA, 3TD 4INT, 67.4 rating QB compared to the rest of the league’s starters. Go ahead, name your 12, I dare you.

    And I’m a know-nothing fool…….. Okay, skippy.
    ————————–

    For starters, I didn’t make the original statement. I like Flynn, but time will tell if he becomes a viable starter.

    I only responded because you know damn well he played great against the Patriots in his one start and they came up short, largely because they allowed an o-lineman to return a kickoff 78 yards. Then again, I couldn’t expect you to know this. The Vikes weren’t playoff bound, so most of their fans had disappeared. Call it how you like, but you are a joke of a franchise and it’s known nationwide.

    Only in the mind of a Viking fan did he play poorly. Meanwhile, Ponder goes 5-20 with two picks in the second half of his first start… a loss…to the Packers…and he’s the second coming? I’d call it hypocritical, but I don’t think Viking fans know any better. You’re just not a people who are capable of rational thought, and you’re all just terrible at debating. Probably the Minnesota Nice thing. Tough to trash someone behind their back on an internet forum.

  180. brewdogg says: Nov 11, 2011 4:46 AM

    ruvelligwebuike says:
    Nov 10, 2011 9:41 PM

    For starters, I didn’t make the original statement. I like Flynn, but time will tell if he becomes a viable starter.

    I only responded because you know damn well he played great against the Patriots in his one start and they came up short, largely because they allowed an o-lineman to return a kickoff 78 yards. Then again, I couldn’t expect you to know this. The Vikes weren’t playoff bound, so most of their fans had disappeared. Call it how you like, but you are a joke of a franchise and it’s known nationwide.

    Only in the mind of a Viking fan did he play poorly. Meanwhile, Ponder goes 5-20 with two picks in the second half of his first start… a loss…to the Packers…and he’s the second coming? I’d call it hypocritical, but I don’t think Viking fans know any better. You’re just not a people who are capable of rational thought, and you’re all just terrible at debating. Probably the Minnesota Nice thing. Tough to trash someone behind their back on an internet forum.
    ———————————–

    I didn’t say you made the original one, just that you were quick to leap to the defense of it. I see you are choosing not to try backing up that foolish claim, as well.

    You say he played well. I say that the only completion that went for more than 16 yards was because of Merriweather taking a terrible angle and knocking the CB down. A pick-6 deep in his own zone and another pick on the last drive called back, staring down his receivers, slow through his progressions…. And he was in his third year in the system, on top of it. You may be withholding judgement on Flynn, but many Packer fans see the next great one in him. I see the next Todd Collins.

    As far as Ponder goes, if you ask an honest Vikings fan, they will tell you that the thing that gets us the most excited about Ponder is what doesn’t appear in the box score. He’s decisive, aggressive, and the rest of the offense seems to want to play for him in a way that they haven’t wanted to play for anyone in a long time. Leadership can’t be taught, and he is a leader that others want to follow, based on what we have seen the last couple weeks. Of course, we saw much the same thing in Jake Plummer when he was young, so we’ll see what happens. But the mistakes he makes (veteran CB vs rookie QB) can be fixed.

    And do you really want to talk hypocritical? I’ve spent the last couple years on here constantly pointing out the hypocrisy prevalent in so many Packer fans. Even the ones that thought they were so smart and rational….. Like when we were trying to be convinced that the price paid for Allen was too high, regardless of how well he played. Until, of course, that person was reminded that the Packers payed almost as high of a price for someone who had half a season of college play under his belt, instead of 4 NFL seasons and a couple PBs. And that’s just one example.

    If you want to go rounds, I’m right here. I guarantee that, by the time we’re done, you’ll be down to the old, worn-out Super Bowl defense. So bring it.

  181. hatersweargreen says: Nov 12, 2011 12:16 AM

    [jkay1818 says: Nov 8, 2011 9:30 AM

    Giants vs niners is coming at a good time, should be a good one. Reminds me of the late 80s, early 90s when they were both nasty and used to play in the NFC championships.]

    yes, but this time the roles are reversed, it’s the “jet blue” offense of the Gmen vs the lockdown defense of the niners.

    as a lifelong giants fan, that just seems wierd :)

    hoping for a classic either way tho. the game might very well decide the r1 bye in the playoffs…

  182. PurpleRaid18 says: Nov 12, 2011 10:49 AM

    So the Chiefs shut out Oak at home and then Oak looses to Tebow…. but still they are tops in the division?
    ____________________________________

    Yeah, but Oakland started Kyle Boller against the Chiefs and McFadden was out of both games. Thursday night’s game against the Chargers says it all about the Raiders… they’re back.

  183. windycitymonstersofthemidway says: Nov 13, 2011 8:42 AM

    Lions wayyyyy overrated, having lost two of the last three games and on the verge of getting it handed to them, today, in Soldier Field.

    After the Bears take their revenge for that mess up on Detroit a month ago, this team will have lost three out of four games. No way a top 10 team.

    But look at their talent — ferocious but undisciplined line, a fragile QB, one monster receiver in Megatron and no running game. This is not a playoff team.

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