Frazier says talk of Packers’ undefeated season motivates Vikings

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Packers cornerback Charles Woodson is openly talking about the possibility of Green Bay going 19-0. Vikings coach Leslie Frazier wants to bring that to an end.

Frazier said he’s heard the talk that this year’s Packers could join the 1972 Dolphins as the only perfect teams in NFL history, and that he’d like that talk to go away on Monday night, when the Vikings visit Green Bay.

Our goal is to squelch the talk of an undefeated season after Monday night,” Frazier said, via the Star-Tribune. “But it can grow to the point where you lose sight of what your goal is, which is to get to the Super Bowl and win the Super Bowl.”

Frazier knows just how Woodson is feeling right now because Frazier was a cornerback on the 1985 Bears, who started the season 12-0, and an assistant coach on the 2005 Colts, who started 13-0. Frazier said talk of going undefeated all the way can turn into a distraction.

“This early, you might not think about [an undefeated season] quite as much, although you hear a lot about it from people outside of your organization,” Frazier said. “But the longer you’re undefeated, the more the drama builds and it can be overwhelming if you are not a mature team. But they seem to be.”

And if there is a risk of all that talk about the Packers being undefeated turning into a distraction, Frazier would be more than happy to remove that distraction for the Packers on Monday night.

91 responses to “Frazier says talk of Packers’ undefeated season motivates Vikings

  1. Leslie, let your team do its talking on the field; that’s where the game is won or lost.

    Let Charles Woodson talk as much as he wants, pin it up in the locker room, etc. But don’t waste time responding to this nonsense in the press. Just go out and prove your point on the field.

  2. and i’m sure they’ll use it as motivation to cheer for the Packers’ opponents the rest of the season. 🙂

  3. The Packers have to play 3 games in 9.5 days thanks to the NFL’s scheduling lunatics. If the Packers roll over the Vikes and Tampa Bay in six days and then manage to beat the Lions at Ford Field 3.5 days later, it’ll be an astounding achievement.

  4. It’s not like the Packers will try to lose a game.

    Herm Edwards said it best; “You play to win the game.”

    If the Packers were 0-8 would the Vikings not want to still beat the Packers?

    Distraction, no. Mounting pressure, yes.

  5. I just hope the Packers don’t do what the Colts do.

    The Colts couldn’t handle the pressure, pulled their starters in the last regular season game to purposefully lose and alleviate the pressure going into the playoffs (giving Rex Ryan an un-deserved playoff spot in the process).

    I give teams like the Patriots and Packers credit for actively going after football history – even if they fall short, at least they weren’t cowards like the Colts.

    I think it would be great for football if the Packers can pull it off – I’ll be rooting for them unless my team’s facing them in the Super Bowl that is!

  6. Hey gb4mn0, its pretty easy to get under your skin right? Enough so that you have to go post about me on a Raiders thread right? Youre so easy Sally, so so easy!

  7. For the coach to come out and say this is really dumb. How about the motivation to just win your team a game……instead your motivation is to stop another team from reaching a milestone??

  8. The Packers defense will not allow us to finish unbeaten. Right now I wish our team could stop someone on third down and I hope we can at least get home field during the playoffs. Currently the way our defense is playing I doubt it will happen.

  9. The Vikings are a different team with Christian Ponder. They gave the Pack a run in his first NFL start. This is a trap game and the Vikes should have a chance Monday Night.

  10. Winfield is back, Harvin is healthy, Ponder is gaining confidence, Allen is still a beast, Peterson is still a beast. Sure, our secondary is still shaky, our o-line could beat a cheese head in a contest for the most holes…. but I like our chances.

    Hope the whole team wears their nut cup this time.

  11. The Vikings will never, ever be a trap game for the Packers. NFC divisional games are blood and guts and as hard fought as any in the league.

  12. Ask any Packer fan the only team who they actually fear can deal them a loss. Hint…its the team known for ending ridiculous runs and has no fear of Lambeau in January.

  13. “adantsa says:
    Nov 11, 2011 11:42 AM
    The Vikings are a different team with Christian Ponder. They gave the Pack a run in his first NFL start. This is a trap game and the Vikes should have a chance Monday Night.”

    Really? I don’t get all the love for Ponder. In two starts Ponder’s stats are worse than McNabbs.

    McNabb is considered an inaccurate passer yet his completion percentage was near 60% whereas Ponder is just over 50%. Not real good. Ponder’s QB rating is 77.5 whereas McNabb’s is 82.9

    He may turn into a decent QB, but right now he’s got a LONG way to go.

  14. Throw away comment that turned into a non-story. Frazier seemed pretty laid back about his comments towards the game. Packs vs Vikes is always mostly competitive despite Lambeau 09 game and Metrodome 2010 game. They are usually pretty fun to see!

  15. Good luck, Alice. Uh, I mean… Leslie.

    Rodgers will shred your paper-bag defense for the first three quarters and then Starks will trample it for the rest.

    You might serve your team better by worrying less about the Packers perfection and more about climbing out of the NFC North basement.

  16. Packers have more tape on Ponder. They know what to expect this time around. IMO they give Newhouse more help to slow Allen. Vikes keep it close in the first half, but Rodgers blows it open in the 3rd. 9-0.

  17. All Woodson said when asked about it was that yes he would love to go undefeated. But that the defense is currently a liability and he certainly wasn’t suggesting that the Packers were going to go undefeated. But the Vikings need some way to get motivated, I guess, so go ahead and make stuff up if that’s what you need to do. Or coach better.

  18. I would say that the Vikings dont have a chance if it was McNabb behind center. Fortunately Ponder is behind center and he has been a breath of fresh air to the Vikings and its fans. He is exciting to watch and this should be closer game than people anticipate.

  19. Every week the packers start walden and wynn and for every 50 snaps matthews takes from the same exact spot, our odds of losing increases. Total lack of creativity on defense, something capers seemed to be full of the past few seasons. Howard Green needs to start. They need to rotate on the d line more, and they have to get Vic So’oto on the field (not on special teams!!!). Until those things happen I fully expect the packers to lose a game or 2. Could be worse but the answers are on the roster.

  20. Good luck with THAT dream Leslie!! Even if you won, so what? (not gonna happen) Packers will still be back in the SB this year.

  21. Every team has been motivated to beat the Packers all year.

    Woodson’s comments don’t change anything. All he said was that he wants to win every game.

  22. Whatever…..

    Any team that is 8-0 would be asked the same question. Woodson said what you’re supposed to say. Any team would love to go undefeated.

  23. I wouldn’t mind the packers if their fans weren’t such idiots. 2009 vikes, saints and colts would eat this team for breakfast, teams that played well on BOTH sides of the ball.

    If you cheer for WI you should live in WI.

    Go Gophers Hockey #1 overall taking on the drunkin sconies this weekend.

  24. I’m glad Woodson didn’t come out and say he wants to get beat.. The case is now officially closed on Leslie…..

  25. 19-0 is inevitable, regardless of the other team’s planning.

    This team is destined to repeat. You think we’re bad now, wait until you start hearing words like “two times,” “Lombardi squared,” or the one NONE of you anti-Packer folks want to hear….

    D-Y-N-A-S-T-Y

  26. Well the Vikings beat the Eagles last year with defense and Joe Webb playing QB. As long as you have Adrian Peterson, you are not an easy team to play.

  27. Woodson is a tool for bringing this up. How many times has Manning taken the Colts to 8-0+?

    Vegas says the odds of the Packers going 19-0 is less than 3%, closer to 2.5%. Sounds about right to me.

  28. Dear Mr Woodson, here is another scenario for you to chew on while talking 19-0. You lose to the vikes, bears, lions twice, tampa bay and another road game and end up 10-6. The Lions keep winning and end up 11-5. Frisco takes the west, the Lions or Bears the Norris, the eagles end up the wild card and you guys don’t make the playoffs.
    Not only is it plausable, the way the pack is playing on defense, they have two barely wins, it could easily happen and its the defense that leads them down this path: no pass rush this year, defensive backs are giving up the big plays and the offensive line is hurting and looking offensive. How is that a 19-0 team?

  29. Let’s see. I seem to remember a season where the Vikes finished 11-5 and the Pack finished 4-12. 2 of the 5 losses for the Vikings that year was the Packers.

    I guess what I’m trying to say is anything can happen. The Vikings are better than their record indicates. They were very close to winning 5 of those 6 losses. Yes, Green Bay is a better team but it doesn’t mean the Vikings can’t beat them.

  30. They will finish the season 13-3 only because of their Defence. I do not however think this week will be one of the 3 losses, but you never know. The sooner they lose one the better for them as a team.

  31. When did the goal of a team become to not win every game? This is so stupid. No wonder the Vikings are 2-6 if they need a sensationalized media quote from Woodson to get motivated. Maybe the fact the Packers are reigning Super Bowl Champs can help too? Play. Every. Game. To. Win.

    Packers have better talent, coaches, and fans. That’s why they’ll win. All this hype over Woodson’s quote is just trying to find a chink in the champ’s armor. Of course the Packers aren’t perfect, they’re just better than everyone else.

    8-0

  32. Damm – Woodson – look what you did now. The Vikings were gonna fold but now that you said you’d like to go undefeated, they’re gonna try to win on Monday. Shoot, I wish you wouldn’t have done that. Its so much easier to win games in the NFL when the opposing players dont really try to win the game themselves. Very poor judgment Charles, what were you thinking?

  33. This is in direct response to people talking about what a weak schedule Green Bay has had. EVERY TEAM GETS RAMPED UP! What is so easy about that?

    Regarding Ponder….many people are saying “he got so close last time.” Yeah, he did, but the Packers are seeing him for the second time too. The surprise factor is gone. The Packers are long overdue for a kick-ass defensive effort. I think you’ll see it Monday night.

  34. calloustongue says:
    Nov 11, 2011 12:42 PM
    When did the goal of a team become to not win every game? This is so stupid. No wonder the Vikings are 2-6 if they need a sensationalized media quote from Woodson to get motivated. Maybe the fact the Packers are reigning Super Bowl Champs can help too? Play. Every. Game. To. Win.

    Packers have better talent, coaches, and fans. That’s why they’ll win. All this hype over Woodson’s quote is just trying to find a chink in the champ’s armor. Of course the Packers aren’t perfect, they’re just better than everyone else.

    duece5 says:

    You mean your “fans” that rode your past hero, favre, out of town, while cascading your current hero, Erin Rodgers, with a cascade of welcoming boos when he threw passes his first year while your past hero, Favre, was still the man? You mean those “welcoming” fans???

    It wasn’t a few hundred either…..THOUSANDS of fans booed Rodgers all the time. They couldn’t stand having Rodgers replace El Favre.

    Hey cheeseheads: STAY CLASSY!!!!!!

    Don’t forget the “classy” organization THAT BOOTED LOMBARDI OUT ON A RAIL, OUT OF TOWN, which ultimately he landed as coach for the Redskins.

    You mean that “CLASSY” organization??!!

    Thanks, cheeseheads, STAY CLASSY!!!!!!!

  35. It all comes down to motivation. I believe the Packers motivation to win every game is greater than the Vikings motivation to end the Packers winning streak.

    If the Vikes motivation were about themselves instead of focused on others they may have a better record than 2-6.

  36. This stuff is over hyped. If the Vikings need Charles Woodson saying that he wants the Packers to go undefeated for the Vikings to be motivated then you have a problem Leslie. It all comes down to the talent on the field. Once the game starts all this stuff goes out the window. Final score with Vikings motivated: Green Bay 38, Minnesota 17. Final score with Vikings unmotivated: Green Bay 38, Minnesota 17.

  37. great offense + great defense=undefeated and SB great offense+ mediocre defense=lions or some other teams stomps you in the playoffs

    by the way, the vikings would have won that game had christian ponder not made two rookie mistakes when he threw the interceptions he did. this will be a lot closer of a game than everyone thinks. i’m sure if you look at the comments from the last vikings-packers article you’ll see all the packers fans saying how the game wont be close. it was too close for comfort for packers fans similar to the chargers game.

  38. ‘2009 vikes, saints and colts would eat this team for breakfast, teams that played well on BOTH sides of the ball.’

    Umm.. No.

    If you want to compare the 2009 Saints to the 2011 Packers I would agree, but the 2009 Saints Defense is very similar to the Packers defense. (The Saints were ranked 20th that year). Alot of yards and ALOT of turnovers.

  39. I love the fact that all of the GB fans are riding on cloud 9 this season. Are the Vikes the underdog? Ohhh yeah. We also have Jared Allen and B Rob that have one heck of a pass rush. ARodg is awesome, there is no denying that.

    I do believe the game will be closer and more nerve racking than what some Packers fans would like to believe. It will be an awesome game with an awesome rivalry, looking forward to it.

    As the great Vanilla Ice would say (if he were from MN) Skol to your Motha!

  40. As painful as it is for me to say this, if the Packers win Monday night, I hope they go undefeated. I just want somebody to shut the ’72 Dolphins up. The Colts showed them how irrelevant their record is but they don’t seem to get it. The ’85 Bears were, and still are, the best team in history and would beat them by 17. I would argue that the ’98 Vikings would beat them by 10.

  41. gobacktocheeseland:

    Hello? A typical MN fan jumping around ripping people from WI and then stating we’ll “get you in hockey”. I’m sure the mullet head-Lucia appreciates your backing.

    For clarification purposes…first off, no one actually cares about hockey. Second of all, if you’re going that route at least bring up the 91 Twins–they at least won the world series. You can take your assumed win in hockey but I think the over-under on points between the Packers/Vikings and Badger/Gophers in football should be about 65. Do that little Minn-e-sota chant now.

  42. I like how the words got switched around. Read the article before responding folks. And look at what the coach and Woodson really said. Don’t add words or switch there meanings that are not in the article.

  43. Vikings fans must think this game is at the Metrodump. Only reason it was even remotely close last time. Queens get stomped in Lambeau and the Vikings don’t get another win all year.

    Bank it.

  44. This is an NFC North game…you can through the records out! Are the Packers playing like the best team in football right now? Yes. Are the Vikings as bad as their record indicates? No. It will not be the beatdown that some seem to think.

    To my Packer friends and rivals: I’m looking forward to a good game. My hope is that your side gets nervous….real nervous! And, I hope that the Vikings make a great showing!!

    May the better team win on Monday Night!!!

  45. Speaking of talk, am I the only one who has noticed that the media is recycling the old Packer vs. _______________ scripts when broadcasting GB games? They simply insert 12/Rodgers for 4/Favre and rave about the aromatic quality of his fecal matter. It took some time to become nauseated by the Favre-worshipping but the last 11 packer games (NFC Championship until today) have been enough for me to literally watch games on mute. Barf.

  46. Packer fans (of which I am one)… DO NOT take this game lightly. The Vikings really have nothing to play for this year except causing misery to their rivals. They would like nothing more than to beat us AT Lambeau and on national TV.
    Plus, they are coming off their bye and last I checked, have a pretty darn good running back and pass rushers.

  47. Suh mouthed off about going 16-0 and the Vikes made him pay, right? Absolutely vital that the Pack win this one so they have the head-to-head tiebreaker over the Vikes ;P
    Actually I think there’s a good chance it could be close for three quarters, maybe even longer if the Packers turn, as they so often do, to their “Prevent” (a blowout) game plan. They seem to have an aversion to comfortable wins. Yes, the Vikings have some studs, but I see no way that Viking secondary can win against Rodgers and his receivers at Lambeau.

  48. Always found it interesting that it’s side comments and general chatter that “motivates” these guys instead of pride, wanting to win, and wanting to perform well, a job that most are overpaid to do in the first place. Thanks for being “professionals”

  49. calloustongue says:
    Nov 11, 2011 2:58 PM
    Vikings fans must think this game is at the Metrodump. Only reason it was even remotely close last time. Queens get stomped in Lambeau and the Vikings don’t get another win all year.

    Bank it.
    __________

    Last year was an incredibly close game at Lambeau. The Packers got a gift TD that wasn’t a TD because Chilly didn’t challenge it. The Vikings had a TD stolen from them after a bad call on the replay. Home or away, this will be a close game.

  50. jrmbadger says:
    Nov 11, 2011 11:49 AM
    “adantsa says:
    Nov 11, 2011 11:42 AM
    The Vikings are a different team with Christian Ponder. They gave the Pack a run in his first NFL start. This is a trap game and the Vikes should have a chance Monday Night.”

    Really? I don’t get all the love for Ponder. In two starts Ponder’s stats are worse than McNabbs.

    McNabb is considered an inaccurate passer yet his completion percentage was near 60% whereas Ponder is just over 50%. Not real good. Ponder’s QB rating is 77.5 whereas McNabb’s is 82.9

    He may turn into a decent QB, but right now he’s got a LONG way to go.

    Have you even watched a Vikings game this year? McNabb’s stats have always been the biggest smoke and mirror show in the NFL. The reason the guy has “better” stats than Ponder is because he takes absolutely no risks throwing the ball. If there is even remotely decent coverage on a receiver, he throws it 100 mph at his feet, or skies it 5 yards over his head, because he doesn’t want a turnover on his stats sheet. He’s even said himself that the biggest thing he tries to do is limit turnovers. What he doesn’t realize is he turns the ball over way more by not converting on 3rd downs. And that’s where him and Ponder differ greatly. I’d be willing to bet that in his two starts Ponder has already converted more 3rd downs than McNabb did in his six starts. I’ll gladly take a QB who may not complete every throw on early downs, but who gets it done when it really counts and isn’t afraid to make a gutsy throw from time-to-time.

  51. vadog says:
    Nov 11, 2011 3:11 PM
    This is an NFC North game…you can through the records out! Are the Packers playing like the best team in football right now? Yes. Are the Vikings as bad as their record indicates? No. It will not be the beatdown that some seem to think.

    To my Packer friends and rivals: I’m looking forward to a good game. My hope is that your side gets nervous….real nervous! And, I hope that the Vikings make a great showing!!

    May the better team win on Monday Night!!!
    __________

    I agreed with everything except the last line. The Packers are the better team. I want the Vikings to steal this one.

  52. Why did Charles have to start flapping his jaw about that? He has no business even thinking about that with how crappy the defense is playing. Not to mention the fact were only 8 games into the season.

  53. Hey Viking Fans –

    Please win a Super Bowl. Then we can all finally dispense with this inferiority complex you have with anything green and gold. Acting like petulant children does not become you.

  54. Just a little bit of fun facts here for all the non packer fans who are claiming the the Packers have been playing an easy schedule
    The Packers have currently beaten 3 teams that have winning records(NO,ATL,and Chicago)
    NY Giants( 2 BUF and NE)
    Detroit(1 CHI)
    Chicago(1 ATL)
    New Orleans(1 CHI)
    ATL(1DET)
    SanFran(2CIN DET)

    So it looks like the Packers should be complaining that the rest of the NFC is playing a cupcake schedule. |Facts are facts!!!

  55. keeley2 says:
    Nov 11, 2011 4:51 PM
    Hey Viking Fans –

    Please win a Super Bowl. Then we can all finally dispense with this inferiority complex you have with anything green and gold. Acting like petulant children does not become you.

    ————————

    So winning a super bowl means you no longer act like a child and ditch the inferiority complex? Hmm… could have fooled me, what with all those Packer fans who find the time to invade every story about the Vikings to try and exert their dominance as a fan. If that doesn’t scream inferiority complex, I don’t know what does.

    Fact: every team has fans that act like children playing on Xbox Live. Get over it.

  56. @ keeley2

    Nice try sounding smart but instead of “Acting like petulant children does not become you.”. it should be “Acting like petulant children is not becoming of you” learn the English language. Maybe that’s why whoever invented the toothbrush called it a toothbrush instead of a teethbrush, Wisconsin citizens are not very educated or maybe most Wisconsin citizens only have one tooth because they don’t use one.

    @ jarrman46

    All the teams you listed have had cupcake schedules which makes them look better than they are which is exactly why people say they have a cupcake schedule.

    @all other packers fans

    I said this earlier, a great offense with no pass defense will get you your loss against a team with a decent offense and a really good defense. That may not happen before the end of the season but it WILL happen in the playoffs.

  57. ravensfan4life52 says:
    Nov 11, 2011 3:16 PM

    I hope the Vikings win so I can taste the tears of Packers fans.
    ——————————————–
    Are you saying that you want to lick our faces?

  58. @jrmbadger
    please do your homework before you comment. If you watched any DM games his throws suck. stats r stats fine. Here is a stat for you. With DM playing the vikes averaged 16 pts. a game. Ponder they average 26 in the little time he has played.
    Nice to see some good posts from packer fans, as I am a Vikes fan, I also have some good friends that are Packer fans… but we can all agree its a good rivalry.
    Hope the political egos can be put aside and resolve the stadium BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    It would not be the same NFC division….

  59. Hey Frazier, no matter how motivated you are the Queens still have no chance this week. Wouldn’t be surprised to see 52-0 Packers on Monday Night.
    ___________________________________
    gobacktocheeseland says:
    Nov 11, 2011 12:20 PM
    Go Gophers Hockey #1 overall taking on the drunkin sconies this weekend.
    ————————————————–
    Seriously? You’re bringing up hockey? I guess Minnesota really is a Canadian Province because nobody else watches hockey. It’s bad enough NBC advertises NHL during Sunday Night Football.

  60. gobacktocheeseland says:
    Nov 11, 2011 12:20 PM
    Go Gophers Hockey #1 overall taking on the drunkin sconies this weekend.
    ——————————————————————-

    …just in….3rd period….Drunkin’ Sconnies 3, Minnesota Iceholes 0.

  61. kmartinson says:
    Nov 11, 2011 2:24 PM
    gobacktocheeseland:

    Hello? A typical MN fan jumping around ripping people from WI and then stating we’ll “get you in hockey”. I’m sure the mullet head-Lucia appreciates your backing.

    For clarification purposes…first off, no one actually cares about hockey. Second of all, if you’re going that route at least bring up the 91 Twins–they at least won the world series. You can take your assumed win in hockey but I think the over-under on points between the Packers/Vikings and Badger/Gophers in football should be about 65. Do that little Minn-e-sota chant now.
    ————————————-

    1) I think the number of hockey fans (of which I am not one) is probably still higher than the number of nascar fans. Just saying….since certain posters take such pride in having one of those fools as a native.

    2) The Twins won in ’87 too.

    3) The average margin of victory on Vikings/Packers games going back to 2005 is 9 points. The average margin of victory in the last ten Gophers/Badgers games is 12.7. I think I can consider it a safe investment to take your under.

  62. An in the cellar team that thinks it can beat the Pack in Lambeau Land?
    Excuse me while I go and laugh like crazy.

  63. Well what else can he say?
    He’s coaching a team in the cellar whose future is in doubt until they get a stadium somewhere locked up.
    So Coach doesn’t want his players to psych themselves out knowing what they are up against.
    Undefeated SB champs on their own natural grass with the best fan base in the States.

  64. This is the beginning of the Vikings 2nd half 8 game winning streak that will result in them sweeping the playoffs & winning the Super Bowl.

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