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Vince Young “not where I want to be” in Eagles’ offense


Vince Young could get his first start as an Eagle on Sunday, if Michael Vick’s broken ribs keep him off the field. So is Young ready to run the Philadelphia offense?

Young says he’s ready — just not as ready as he’d like to be. In the three months since Young signed with Philadelphia (and gave them their unfortunate “Dream Team” nickname), Young has learned most of the offense from offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg and quarterbacks coach Doug Pederson, but he says he doesn’t know it like the back of his hand.

“Each week, from studying, I’m getting better and better each day,” Young said. “I’m not where I want to be at because this is my first year here. But overall, I really feel like Marty, Doug Pederson and Mike [Vick] are doing a great job making sure I know the plays.”

Young also described himself as still playing catch-up with the Eagles’ playbook.

“It’s definitely [a] wordy, very, very detailed offense,” Young said.

Eagles coach Andy Reid has declined to say whether Young or Mike Kafka will start if Vick can’t, but Eagles players said Young got more first-team reps in practice on Wednesday. If Young isn’t completely comfortable in the offense yet, he’ll need all the practice he can get.

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52 Responses to “Vince Young “not where I want to be” in Eagles’ offense”
  1. kingmj4891 says: Nov 17, 2011 6:55 AM

    Its because he is dumb!

  2. danny2305 says: Nov 17, 2011 6:56 AM

    Carson Palmer can pick up the Raiders offense in a couple of weeks but Vince Young still doesn’t know the Eagles one after THREE MONTHS?!

    This guy is an embarrassment.

  3. joetoronto says: Nov 17, 2011 7:02 AM

    How dumb can this mofo be?

    In 3 weeks, Palmer was running no huddle, calling out protections and calling audibles like it was nothing.

    The only question I have is, who’s dumber, Vick or Young?

  4. snarkzilla says: Nov 17, 2011 7:03 AM

    He’s got most of the checkdown and handoff play basics down pat and is getting pretty good with L vs. R, but he’s still trying to learn the height of the RBs and Philly’s jersey numbering system.

  5. alewatcher says: Nov 17, 2011 7:04 AM

    Looks like the Wonderlic scores were right.

  6. stlsteelerfan says: Nov 17, 2011 7:04 AM

    If a play call doesn’t have the word “run” in it he doesn’t understand what to do

  7. gcsuk says: Nov 17, 2011 7:06 AM

    “It’s definitely [a] wordy, very, very detailed offense,” Young said.

    Well, there’s the problem right there. If the Eagles could somehow make the playbook just pictures instead of words, it would probably be a whole lot easier for VY.

  8. crashdog says: Nov 17, 2011 7:06 AM

    If by “Not being where you want to be” means being on the field, I think the rest of Philadelphia agrees with you Vince…..

  9. nevin999 says: Nov 17, 2011 7:07 AM

    Not according to the Giants defense, Vince. They think you’re just fine where you are.

  10. august1969 says: Nov 17, 2011 7:07 AM

    mainly because he really didn’t start trying until Vick broke his ribs

  11. londonfletcher says: Nov 17, 2011 7:10 AM

    That’s not something I would really come out and admit, even if it were the truth.

  12. timtrice says: Nov 17, 2011 7:16 AM

    “It’s definitely [a] wordy, very, very detailed offense,” Young said.

    In his defense, he once said the same thing about Green Eggs and Ham.

  13. driftw00d says: Nov 17, 2011 7:24 AM

    Well, he must have copied his work ethic from Albert Haynesworth while they were teammates.

  14. sj39 says: Nov 17, 2011 7:33 AM

    The Eagles absolutely deserve all the bad Karma they are experiencing. Serves them right for bringing in that POS Vick in the first place. They will be cursed until long after he is gone.

  15. 4t9er says: Nov 17, 2011 7:33 AM

    There is no denying that he is dumb, but Carson played in a similar offense with Bengals and Hue Jackson was one of his coaches there ( and USC). The west coast offense is a complicated offense that take years to master, great QBs had to set a year or two before picking it up (Montana, Rogers).

  16. sepl12 says: Nov 17, 2011 7:42 AM

    what he means is not that he doesn’t know the Playbook, what he means is he’d rather still be on the bench making his salary but doing nothing.

  17. Topher says: Nov 17, 2011 7:47 AM

    Hey Vince, leak your playbook onto the internet and we fans will have that thing broken down and transcribed for you by close of business.

  18. cleverbob says: Nov 17, 2011 8:00 AM

    I’m sure memorizing an NFL playbook and all the little nuances is not an easy task. That being said, it’s his job to be ready at any point to get plugged in. If you’re getting paid $5 million to be a backup, I’d expect you to be able to do your job.

  19. greenpacker says: Nov 17, 2011 8:02 AM

    VY: “i dont want to sit next to Steve Smith on the bench anymore”

  20. twitter:Chapman_Jamie says: Nov 17, 2011 8:04 AM

    These comments are great!

  21. quittsburghstoolers says: Nov 17, 2011 8:10 AM

    The Eagles must be nuts.

    Why else would they hand their starting QB job to Vince Young, the headcase?

    The only way I’d do that (if I was them) would be if Kafka played first and was terrible.

    Young is much more physically gifted than Kafka but he’s shown his head ain’t on straight.

    Million dollar body, 10 cent head…

  22. laeaglefan says: Nov 17, 2011 8:14 AM

    As Vince pointed out, its his first year with the Eagles, but what he didn’t mention is that it will be his last.
    No way they’re bringing back this loser to pay him $5 million to sit on the bench and make dumb remarks which haunt the team for the whole season.

  23. snarkzilla says: Nov 17, 2011 8:18 AM

    Now he has two days to remember how to run an option offense.

  24. goinghamonit128 says: Nov 17, 2011 8:24 AM

    I wonder what Rush Limbaugh would say about this.

  25. greymares says: Nov 17, 2011 8:29 AM

    JOE TORONTO after reading about 500 of your posts i would almost guarantee you couldn’t call one play from a west coast offense if you could read it off a cheat sheet.

  26. nflofficeadmin says: Nov 17, 2011 8:40 AM


  27. supashug says: Nov 17, 2011 8:43 AM

    doesnt matter, not going to playoffs, what a joke of a team

  28. burningrangers says: Nov 17, 2011 8:45 AM

    But all he does is win games!

  29. rmzthefirst says: Nov 17, 2011 8:45 AM

    Funny, it’s a wordy playbook….. Not enough pictures huh Vinny…! lol

  30. richm2256 says: Nov 17, 2011 8:54 AM

    Week 10 of sitting on his a$$ and this guy STILL doesn’t know the playbook????

    Isn’t that, like, something a “Hall of Fame” quarterback should have down by now?

    Waste of a roster spot.

  31. bangitfootball says: Nov 17, 2011 9:04 AM

    But Vince your the DREAM QUARTERBACK!!!!!

    Seriously this dope started the Eagles downfall with his stupid comment and he should remember hes the biggest draft bust at quarterback in history with the exception of JaMarcus Bling Russel and Ryan Have Another Drink Leaf. Sunday hell show (again) how bad he really is.

  32. joetoronto says: Nov 17, 2011 9:09 AM

    4t9er says: Nov 17, 2011 7:33 AM

    There is no denying that he is dumb, but Carson played in a similar offense with Bengals and Hue Jackson was one of his coaches there ( and USC). The west coast offense is a complicated offense that take years to master, great QBs had to set a year or two before picking it up (Montana, Rogers).
    Palmer said the Raiders offense was NOT similar to the Bengals offense and that he essentially had to learn everything from scratch.

    I mean, every playbook has Posts, Digs, Curls and Drags etc, but you have to actually learn which play has what and the verbiage, which has to be the hardest part of all.

    There’s no excuses, either he’s too dumb, too lazy, or both, period.

  33. joetoronto says: Nov 17, 2011 9:11 AM

    greymares says: Nov 17, 2011 8:29 AM

    JOE TORONTO after reading about 500 of your posts i would almost guarantee you couldn’t call one play from a west coast offense if you could read it off a cheat sheet.
    Wow, stalk much?

  34. charliesbatch says: Nov 17, 2011 9:19 AM

    Vince is a HOF type QB according to himself. This guy is a joke

  35. donmega72 says: Nov 17, 2011 9:29 AM

    Kind of validates that rumored low Wonderlic score!

  36. gmen1987 says: Nov 17, 2011 9:31 AM

    This Mama’s boy needs to have his mommy come and hold his hand while he learns his playbook.

    Just because a QB wins a college national championship doesn’t mean he wil be good in the pros. The track record of national championship QBs is not good in the NFL.

  37. cowboyhater says: Nov 17, 2011 9:36 AM

    If the Eagles would just look down 95 and see how not to build a team, they would not be in this predicament. My Skins provided a blueprint to all NFL teams on how not to run an organization. I’m shocked the Eagles ignored that. Now look at them 3-6, just like my Skins, and now putting in another teams reject as their starting QB. They are a mess, but as a Skins fan, it is fun to watch.

  38. briggsweatbird says: Nov 17, 2011 9:56 AM

    Vince Dumb? Maybe. It seems the real issue, if you read between the lines, is that he has not taken a snap and he is ALREADY offering excuses. He is a victim. Unfortunately, he victimizes himself.

  39. adirtyplayernamedsue says: Nov 17, 2011 10:00 AM

    Young is an idiot!! It’s not like he is a rookie, but don’t know the offense yet?? Really? He has been there 3 months and he is a veteran. Wow. Newton know the o fine as does dalton. What a moron young must be.

  40. ripcityhawkhead says: Nov 17, 2011 10:01 AM

    single digit wonderlic

  41. eaglesnoles05 says: Nov 17, 2011 10:04 AM

    Lol, yeah VY aint the sharpest tool in the shed, but neither are the people on this board who are comparing his situation to Carson Palmer’s who has been with Hue Jackson (and his terminology/plays/scheme/coaching) at USC, Cincy, and now in Oakland over the past decade or so.

    Dullards everywhere it seems, not just in the eagles QB meetings.

  42. skinsfanwill says: Nov 17, 2011 10:05 AM

    In all fairness, Carson has been with Hue Jackson for almost his entire career(including college). He should know his offense in a matter of weeks. Tennessee never had a complicated offense and wasn’t a west coast style of team. Vince is however a bum, so it wouldn’t make much of a difference if he knows it or not.

  43. schmokes says: Nov 17, 2011 10:17 AM

    McNabb managed to run this offense for years, all you have to do is throw the ball at the receiver’s knees, and occasionally puke in the huddle.

  44. snarkzilla says: Nov 17, 2011 10:30 AM

    Well, really, why would the Eagles sign up a dull-witted mental case with lousy career production numbers as a backup QB? Might be Roseman’s doing since Young came in cheap and bean counters don’t know football. But why didn’t Reid veto it, since it was a 100% sure bet that Vick would go down at some point?

    VY has averaged 150 yards of total production a game for his career. Dumb choice by the Eagles.

  45. fbourdier10 says: Nov 17, 2011 10:31 AM

    VY is 2-0 against the Giants FYI. Now let that marinate.

  46. cshearing says: Nov 17, 2011 10:32 AM

    Vince Young: Saying stupid things 24/7. First the Dream Team thing, and now this? The man needs a ball gag.

  47. myfinalword says: Nov 17, 2011 10:39 AM

    I am in no way defending Young but to compare his situation to Carson Palmer is ridiculous. Plamer ran that same offense when Hue was in Cinncinnati. Some of you just spew bullcrap without having a damn clue.

  48. Tim says: Nov 17, 2011 11:28 AM

    Ok I guess I’ll be the one who does it…


  49. merc3375 says: Nov 17, 2011 11:32 AM

    He’s an idiot and should be cut. I have more faith in Mike Kafka.

  50. mustyoldclapptrap says: Nov 17, 2011 11:46 AM

    I only wish that was the first time something VY said made me shoot beer out my nose.

  51. granadosm says: Nov 17, 2011 1:12 PM

    funny how palmer picked up the offense in two weeks yet it takes young 6 months. he might be the dumbest whose in the league

  52. skulman7 says: Nov 17, 2011 5:47 PM

    Some of these comments are laughable.

    Carson Palmer picked up the offense in two weeks? Doubtful.. Did he learn it enough where the Raiders are can adjust their gameplay? yes

    The same goes with Young. He without a doubt could have played earlier in the year. Marty and Andy would have adjusted their gameplan. I like what he said, he’s learning how to become a real QB instead of one who relies solely on his athletic ability. Learning the West Coast offense doesn’t happen overnight, especially with lack of in-game experience.

    VY isn’t the smartest guy in the league no doubt, but to say he’s stupid because he admits he’s still learning and working on becoming a better all around QB (in a new system nonetheless)? Ridiculous.

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