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	<title>Comments on: Teammates say Jordy Nelson is underestimated because he&#8217;s white</title>
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		<title>By: kzaleski2000</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 15:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i meet jordy nelson when i was in the hospital for a check up!! i had to go in for a check up cause i have cystic fibrosis!!! before i meet jordy i wasnt a huge fan. but after i met jordy and collons i am the BIGGEST packer fan you willl ever find! i got a make-a-wish trip a couple years ago and if i meet them before my wish it would of been to meet the packer players!! i love all the packer players!! you guys are doing varry good this season!! jeep it up! and be super bowl winners again!!!:) and dont forget GO PACK GOOO!! i have a picture but idk how to put it up here lol sorryyy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i meet jordy nelson when i was in the hospital for a check up!! i had to go in for a check up cause i have cystic fibrosis!!! before i meet jordy i wasnt a huge fan. but after i met jordy and collons i am the BIGGEST packer fan you willl ever find! i got a make-a-wish trip a couple years ago and if i meet them before my wish it would of been to meet the packer players!! i love all the packer players!! you guys are doing varry good this season!! jeep it up! and be super bowl winners again!!!:) and dont forget GO PACK GOOO!! i have a picture but idk how to put it up here lol sorryyy!</p>
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		<title>By: rcali</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 20:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s not white he&#039;s &quot;Kansas American.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s not white he&#8217;s &#8220;Kansas American.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: leeeeeron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[leeeeeron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We see a fairly equal mix of black and white players at offensive/defensive line and linebacker. We have only a handfull of white recievers in the NFL a few halfbacks and virtually no cornerbacks. 

We need to try to keep racism out of sports. There are physical differences between different races, and professional sports highlights that fact. The NFL, like any business, is about survival of the fittest. Whoever is the most productive at the time will hold the position and make the $$]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We see a fairly equal mix of black and white players at offensive/defensive line and linebacker. We have only a handfull of white recievers in the NFL a few halfbacks and virtually no cornerbacks. </p>
<p>We need to try to keep racism out of sports. There are physical differences between different races, and professional sports highlights that fact. The NFL, like any business, is about survival of the fittest. Whoever is the most productive at the time will hold the position and make the $$</p>
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		<title>By: yooperman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yooperman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 12:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[n response to the comment about white people being over weight in Green Bay. It only looks that way.
You have to understand that most people have on underamour, polar fleece, a sweat shirt, a goose down vest, a parka,  an outer layer of something green and gold and this is just to go to store. They really bundle up to go to football games.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>n response to the comment about white people being over weight in Green Bay. It only looks that way.<br />
You have to understand that most people have on underamour, polar fleece, a sweat shirt, a goose down vest, a parka,  an outer layer of something green and gold and this is just to go to store. They really bundle up to go to football games.</p>
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		<title>By: norcalirish</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 11:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s no such thing as &quot;reverse racism&quot;. It&#039;s just racism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no such thing as &#8220;reverse racism&#8221;. It&#8217;s just racism.</p>
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		<title>By: cover2blitz0</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 05:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nelson needs to come to tampa and reunite with freeman like back at ksu and finally give josh a legit wr]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nelson needs to come to tampa and reunite with freeman like back at ksu and finally give josh a legit wr</p>
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		<title>By: shaggytoodle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shaggytoodle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 05:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He probably is underrated, along with McCarthy, because they dont make for good interviews they do thier job.

 Get it done, and move on to the next week. That and thier are just so many awesome people around them its hard to recognition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He probably is underrated, along with McCarthy, because they dont make for good interviews they do thier job.</p>
<p> Get it done, and move on to the next week. That and thier are just so many awesome people around them its hard to recognition.</p>
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		<title>By: jagwar73</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 05:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@buhbay1c: Hilarious and probably true]]></description>
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		<title>By: johnnyb216</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 04:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s pretty fly for a white guy!!... Ahahahaha!!_]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s pretty fly for a white guy!!&#8230; Ahahahaha!!_</p>
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		<title>By: stellarperformance</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stellarperformance]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 03:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s not fast for a white guy...he&#039;s fast for any guy. He was an outstanding track and field athlete in high school winning four events; the 100 (10.63), 200 (21.64), 400 (48.79) and long jump (22-09.50) titles his senior year in Class 3A. He was also an all-state basketball player averaging 17.2 points per game his senior year. Not too many NFL players have those stats on their resume. It may be high school but boys become men and their athletic prowess usually gets better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s not fast for a white guy&#8230;he&#8217;s fast for any guy. He was an outstanding track and field athlete in high school winning four events; the 100 (10.63), 200 (21.64), 400 (48.79) and long jump (22-09.50) titles his senior year in Class 3A. He was also an all-state basketball player averaging 17.2 points per game his senior year. Not too many NFL players have those stats on their resume. It may be high school but boys become men and their athletic prowess usually gets better.</p>
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		<title>By: stellarperformance</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 03:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[buhbay1c says:  Nov 19, 2011 8:40 AM
The thing is, people aren’t used to seeing in-shape white guys within Green Bay’s city limits. I mean honestly, have you ever seen a cut away shot of the crowd?
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Earth to buhbay1c....photoshop the colors and the cut-away shot could be any stadium in this country (but not you of course, right?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buhbay1c says:  Nov 19, 2011 8:40 AM<br />
The thing is, people aren’t used to seeing in-shape white guys within Green Bay’s city limits. I mean honestly, have you ever seen a cut away shot of the crowd?<br />
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<p>Earth to buhbay1c&#8230;.photoshop the colors and the cut-away shot could be any stadium in this country (but not you of course, right?)</p>
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		<title>By: axespray</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 01:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They got a point...
I remember on madden a few years back, Donald Lee had a higher speed rating than Jordy, smh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They got a point&#8230;<br />
I remember on madden a few years back, Donald Lee had a higher speed rating than Jordy, smh.</p>
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		<title>By: rudegger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rudegger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 23:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Race it seems is always taken as a black and white issue.  It isn&#039;t.  Victor Cruz is having some good games, so is Aaron Hernandez--one of the most atheltic TE&#039;s in the game.    I suppose you have to counter black with white and vice versa, and race/culture is so much more than mere colour.  America is in still many ways in kindergarten when it comes to race relations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Race it seems is always taken as a black and white issue.  It isn&#8217;t.  Victor Cruz is having some good games, so is Aaron Hernandez&#8211;one of the most atheltic TE&#8217;s in the game.    I suppose you have to counter black with white and vice versa, and race/culture is so much more than mere colour.  America is in still many ways in kindergarten when it comes to race relations.</p>
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		<title>By: jrmbadger</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;tatum064 says: 
Nov 19, 2011 10:27 AM 
When he gets to our level, then you can pull the “white receiver” race card.

Sincerely

Lynn Swann
Jerry Rice
Jimmy Smith
Michael Irvin

hell, he can’t even get with Raymond Berry or Ed McCaffrey.

play a few more years, then run your mouth.

can someone upset these idiots already, they are beginning to annoy me. Is it something about going undefeated that makes these guys pull crap quotes out of their a”% or what?

whatever happened to white receivers that just do it on the field and don’t say anything? – do you let db’s and T.O.’s and Ocho cinco’s bring the WR diva out in you, or what?&quot;


Quick tip: why don&#039;t you look at the title of MDS&#039; post?  See there: &quot;TEAMMATES say Jordy Nelson is underestimated . . .&quot;

Nelson never brought up the issue.  

Oh and for extra credit - take a look at the article where they talk about how Jennings (a black WR) and Woodson ( a black db) admit that they see it happening on the field all the time, or perhaps see where the article mentions that a division rival&#039;s dbs admitted after the game that they underestimated Nelson. 

Or, you could continue to just hate the Packers because they are successful and your team is not and continue to use any opportunity available to remind us all of that.

your choice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;tatum064 says:<br />
Nov 19, 2011 10:27 AM<br />
When he gets to our level, then you can pull the “white receiver” race card.</p>
<p>Sincerely</p>
<p>Lynn Swann<br />
Jerry Rice<br />
Jimmy Smith<br />
Michael Irvin</p>
<p>hell, he can’t even get with Raymond Berry or Ed McCaffrey.</p>
<p>play a few more years, then run your mouth.</p>
<p>can someone upset these idiots already, they are beginning to annoy me. Is it something about going undefeated that makes these guys pull crap quotes out of their a”% or what?</p>
<p>whatever happened to white receivers that just do it on the field and don’t say anything? – do you let db’s and T.O.’s and Ocho cinco’s bring the WR diva out in you, or what?&#8221;</p>
<p>Quick tip: why don&#8217;t you look at the title of MDS&#8217; post?  See there: &#8220;TEAMMATES say Jordy Nelson is underestimated . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>Nelson never brought up the issue.  </p>
<p>Oh and for extra credit &#8211; take a look at the article where they talk about how Jennings (a black WR) and Woodson ( a black db) admit that they see it happening on the field all the time, or perhaps see where the article mentions that a division rival&#8217;s dbs admitted after the game that they underestimated Nelson. </p>
<p>Or, you could continue to just hate the Packers because they are successful and your team is not and continue to use any opportunity available to remind us all of that.</p>
<p>your choice.</p>
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		<title>By: trollaikman8</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Austin Collie is a decent white WR.   Even more than decent when Manning is throwing to him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austin Collie is a decent white WR.   Even more than decent when Manning is throwing to him.</p>
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		<title>By: trollaikman8</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Madden Curse sees no colors.

-P.Hillis]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Madden Curse sees no colors.</p>
<p>-P.Hillis</p>
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		<title>By: stanklepoot</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oriolesvsravens says: Nov 19, 2011 8:14 AM

I believe he’s over shadowed because of other weapond not underestimated because of his skin color. Welker is a natural slot receiver that gets alot attention like a split end would. So I don’t think its a race thing. They are all good. It’s the NFL.
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Perhaps to a certain degree, but how long did it take for Welker to get the credit he deserves? People were so quick to refer to him as &quot;just a slot receiver&quot;, as if that was any less important than being a wideout. Maybe it was once, but with the rules the way they are now, a receiver who goes across the middle is every bit as valuable as a wideout.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oriolesvsravens says: Nov 19, 2011 8:14 AM</p>
<p>I believe he’s over shadowed because of other weapond not underestimated because of his skin color. Welker is a natural slot receiver that gets alot attention like a split end would. So I don’t think its a race thing. They are all good. It’s the NFL.<br />
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Perhaps to a certain degree, but how long did it take for Welker to get the credit he deserves? People were so quick to refer to him as &#8220;just a slot receiver&#8221;, as if that was any less important than being a wideout. Maybe it was once, but with the rules the way they are now, a receiver who goes across the middle is every bit as valuable as a wideout.</p>
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		<title>By: 1stngoal</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jordy Nelson has alwayas been a very good, and very underestimated WR, going back to his college days.
 There is a rather popular YouTube highlight video of Nelson turning Aquib Talib into burnt toast and coffee while at K-State. Go ahead and let them underestimate you, Jordy. Just let your play do the talking for you...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordy Nelson has alwayas been a very good, and very underestimated WR, going back to his college days.<br />
 There is a rather popular YouTube highlight video of Nelson turning Aquib Talib into burnt toast and coffee while at K-State. Go ahead and let them underestimate you, Jordy. Just let your play do the talking for you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 13xworldchamps</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[13xworldchamps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no problem with either, but I have a problem that you have to tip toe around talking about African American atheles but can say whatever you want about a white athlete and it would be crazy to say it’s racist.

to be fair in this typw of discussuion, if we are to refer to black athletes as &quot;African American&quot; shouldn&#039;t white athletes be refered to as Caucasion Americans?  I mean cmon man lets be fair.........

Heavy sigh, heavy dose of sarcasim in the post. This political correctness that has infested our society needs to end....let&#039;s just let them be atheletes and enjoy.......

and let&#039;s just all be AMERICANS.............]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with either, but I have a problem that you have to tip toe around talking about African American atheles but can say whatever you want about a white athlete and it would be crazy to say it’s racist.</p>
<p>to be fair in this typw of discussuion, if we are to refer to black athletes as &#8220;African American&#8221; shouldn&#8217;t white athletes be refered to as Caucasion Americans?  I mean cmon man lets be fair&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Heavy sigh, heavy dose of sarcasim in the post. This political correctness that has infested our society needs to end&#8230;.let&#8217;s just let them be atheletes and enjoy&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>and let&#8217;s just all be AMERICANS&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: rudegger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rudegger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wes Welker doesn&#039;t think so.   No one notices Nelson because he plays with Aaron Rodgers, and all that other talent on that team.  Peyton Hillis made the cover of Madden ask him what he thinks.

Good Post crabtree35.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wes Welker doesn&#8217;t think so.   No one notices Nelson because he plays with Aaron Rodgers, and all that other talent on that team.  Peyton Hillis made the cover of Madden ask him what he thinks.</p>
<p>Good Post crabtree35.</p>
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		<title>By: fanfair</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/19/teammates-say-jordy-nelson-is-underestimated-because-hes-white/#comment-1395179</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fanfair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting that my comment about the &quot;fairytale&quot; that is this Comments section get deleted or &quot;moderated&quot;, yet someone can make the statement that White athletes are smarter than Black athletes and the comment stands AND has overwhelming thumbs up.   The prosecution rests.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that my comment about the &#8220;fairytale&#8221; that is this Comments section get deleted or &#8220;moderated&#8221;, yet someone can make the statement that White athletes are smarter than Black athletes and the comment stands AND has overwhelming thumbs up.   The prosecution rests.</p>
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		<title>By: crabtree35</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/19/teammates-say-jordy-nelson-is-underestimated-because-hes-white/#comment-1395153</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crabtree35]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&amp; less we forget ... tim tebow is a winner, a fantastic football player, but as a passer deserves a lot of doubt, scrutiny &amp; criticism ...

i would say that his profile, stardom, &amp; cache far exceed his ability &amp; achievement at this point in his career ...

that is attributed strictly to the fact that he&#039;s white ...

&amp; even moreso for peyton hillis ... who, if he was a black athlete, would get vilified for the stunts he has pulled this season .. i give peyton one thing tho, he is very smart - because he&#039;s trying to cash out asap, before everyone realizes how overrated he is...

the reality is, many are blaming the nfl or the media for what is taught learned &amp; conditioned to us as children ... this is how america raises its youth ... so instead of complaining about it, how bout we stop passing these judgements biases &amp; stereotypes to our youth regardless of what race we/they are]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&amp; less we forget &#8230; tim tebow is a winner, a fantastic football player, but as a passer deserves a lot of doubt, scrutiny &amp; criticism &#8230;</p>
<p>i would say that his profile, stardom, &amp; cache far exceed his ability &amp; achievement at this point in his career &#8230;</p>
<p>that is attributed strictly to the fact that he&#8217;s white &#8230;</p>
<p>&amp; even moreso for peyton hillis &#8230; who, if he was a black athlete, would get vilified for the stunts he has pulled this season .. i give peyton one thing tho, he is very smart &#8211; because he&#8217;s trying to cash out asap, before everyone realizes how overrated he is&#8230;</p>
<p>the reality is, many are blaming the nfl or the media for what is taught learned &amp; conditioned to us as children &#8230; this is how america raises its youth &#8230; so instead of complaining about it, how bout we stop passing these judgements biases &amp; stereotypes to our youth regardless of what race we/they are</p>
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		<title>By: 13forgbp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[13forgbp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is old news.  It happens on his own team as well.  There were training camp stories about how the vets in the d backfield would try to tell the new guys not to under estimate the &quot;white dude&quot;.  They would never heed the warning and smoked time and time again.

I hope Tom Jackson cries again and the dopes at espn find someone to fire. Even though they have nothing to do with it, that would suit them just fine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is old news.  It happens on his own team as well.  There were training camp stories about how the vets in the d backfield would try to tell the new guys not to under estimate the &#8220;white dude&#8221;.  They would never heed the warning and smoked time and time again.</p>
<p>I hope Tom Jackson cries again and the dopes at espn find someone to fire. Even though they have nothing to do with it, that would suit them just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: crabtree35</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crabtree35]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never posted because I never wanted to sign in..

But in truth this situation is decided long before a player reaches nfl level. 

When kIds start pop Warner they are classified. Just like when kids start school. 

The majority of minorities come from lesser socioeconomic situations. Worse facilities. Less coaching. Less structure. Basically less money. 

So on the field (or the court).. Your strength is to use your talent skill athleticism to win. By &amp; large, Black quarterbacks are not taught quarterbacking at a young age. They are taught to win any means necessary. Young white kids are schooled on passing, reading a d, etc because they have better/more coaches &amp; structure. Same is true for the bball court ... By the time these kids reach high school they are already pigeonholed a certain way. 

But the biases are real. To some extent the perceptions are real. We are TAUGHT as kids that if you&#039;re an all black team facing an all white team they wont be as good or skilled. &amp; vice versa a white team is taught they will play harder or smarter..

There are exceptions. But this is far beyond the media or NFL. 

&amp; all that reverse racism white bias is bs .. Because cam newton was compared to far inferior black qbs &amp; labeled a risk/likely bust. When it was very obvious he was a skilled passer with off the chart physical gifts &amp; a winner as well as someone who could handle adversity scrutiny or attention ... While all we hear is Andy luck is the best QB in 30 years .... Explain that!?....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never posted because I never wanted to sign in..</p>
<p>But in truth this situation is decided long before a player reaches nfl level. </p>
<p>When kIds start pop Warner they are classified. Just like when kids start school. </p>
<p>The majority of minorities come from lesser socioeconomic situations. Worse facilities. Less coaching. Less structure. Basically less money. </p>
<p>So on the field (or the court).. Your strength is to use your talent skill athleticism to win. By &amp; large, Black quarterbacks are not taught quarterbacking at a young age. They are taught to win any means necessary. Young white kids are schooled on passing, reading a d, etc because they have better/more coaches &amp; structure. Same is true for the bball court &#8230; By the time these kids reach high school they are already pigeonholed a certain way. </p>
<p>But the biases are real. To some extent the perceptions are real. We are TAUGHT as kids that if you&#8217;re an all black team facing an all white team they wont be as good or skilled. &amp; vice versa a white team is taught they will play harder or smarter..</p>
<p>There are exceptions. But this is far beyond the media or NFL. </p>
<p>&amp; all that reverse racism white bias is bs .. Because cam newton was compared to far inferior black qbs &amp; labeled a risk/likely bust. When it was very obvious he was a skilled passer with off the chart physical gifts &amp; a winner as well as someone who could handle adversity scrutiny or attention &#8230; While all we hear is Andy luck is the best QB in 30 years &#8230;. Explain that!?&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: rolandsloan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rolandsloan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 19:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is just weird.....Right?
I think it&#039;s all a matter of where guys get directed
when they start playing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just weird&#8230;..Right?<br />
I think it&#8217;s all a matter of where guys get directed<br />
when they start playing.</p>
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		<title>By: binkystevens</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[binkystevens]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 19:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jordy Nelson: white lightning
John Kuhn: white thunder]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordy Nelson: white lightning<br />
John Kuhn: white thunder</p>
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		<title>By: glac1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[glac1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 19:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[are there any minnesota fans who don&#039;t blame officiating everytime they lose????]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are there any minnesota fans who don&#8217;t blame officiating everytime they lose????</p>
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		<title>By: packerbacker12</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/19/teammates-say-jordy-nelson-is-underestimated-because-hes-white/#comment-1395040</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[packerbacker12]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 19:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;There are great white WR’s past and present, Dwight Clark, Collinsworth, Largent, Welker just to name a few.&quot;




Don&#039;t forget Don Hutson. One of the greatest to ever play the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are great white WR’s past and present, Dwight Clark, Collinsworth, Largent, Welker just to name a few.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget Don Hutson. One of the greatest to ever play the game.</p>
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		<title>By: packerbacker12</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[packerbacker12]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 19:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;108-34 likes-to-dislikes for my comment, for yours, 23-49. I guess more people think GB is fat than think I’m into dudes. Nice try though.&quot;





Did you check your thumbs up-thumbs down rating for that comment? Yeah that&#039;s what I thought.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;108-34 likes-to-dislikes for my comment, for yours, 23-49. I guess more people think GB is fat than think I’m into dudes. Nice try though.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did you check your thumbs up-thumbs down rating for that comment? Yeah that&#8217;s what I thought.</p>
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		<title>By: earthtopft</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[earthtopft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 19:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jordy is quietly efficient, but goes unnoticed because he is not very colorful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordy is quietly efficient, but goes unnoticed because he is not very colorful.</p>
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