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Coughlin starts to get the hot seat treatment in New York

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The Giants have exceeded expectations this year, but that’s not enough to keep Tom Coughlin off the hot seat in New York.

Bob Glauber of Newsday writes Tuesday about Coughlin’s future with the team. After two straight losses and games against the Saints and Packers up next, we suppose this was inevitable.

“[Coughlin] knows as well as anyone that he’s in a bottom-line business,” Glauber writes. “If his team isn’t in the tournament in January, the Giants likely will make a move — and it will be a necessary move.”

After the team’s 2009 collapse, Giants owner John Mara uncharacteristically promised “major changes.”

After the sluggish end to the 2010 regular season, Mara said that players still responded to Coughlin and decided to stay the course.  It looks like Coughlin won’t get another chance if the Giants barely miss the playoffs, no matter how many injuries his team has suffered.

The schedule does the Giants no favors, but we’re wary of counting them out yet. No one expected them to win in New England: They won.   No one expected the Eagles to win in New York: Philly pulled it off.

The point here is that the Giants could certainly beat the Saints this week and the Dolphins could easily surprise the Cowboys.  And then suddenly Coughlin looks “off” the hot seat again.

Coughlin has plenty of time to get things turned around. Six weeks doesn’t sound like much, but it’s a lifetime in this week-to-week league.

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52 Responses to “Coughlin starts to get the hot seat treatment in New York”
  1. irishfan109 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:01 PM

    I feel like this story is run every year.

  2. j0esixpack says: Nov 22, 2011 6:03 PM

    Joe Paterno is available.

  3. test2402 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:05 PM

    He needs Tim Tebow.

  4. august1969 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:08 PM

    I would be shocked if they beat the Saints

  5. messageboard2 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:09 PM

    Because the giants start 6-2 and then collapse every year.

  6. david7590 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:10 PM

    7-9

  7. bigcarguy1 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:12 PM

    Im tired of reading this–they say this every year!! Come on man–even when the Giants didnt make the playoffs last year–they were 10-6

  8. lanman11 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:18 PM

    Had the Giants not pulled out that last second, penalty aided win over an injury depleted NE secondary a few weeks ago they would be on a 3 game slide with two to go, and possibly a 5-7 record heading into the last month of the season. I have to think they will win one of these next two games, preferably against the Packers.

    My understanding is A-Rod is 6′-1″ tall which makes it hard for him to see over linemen, thus the constant roll-outs. I’d think keeping him in the pocket is one key to limiting his effectiveness, but I haven’t heard that being said by the talking heads. I know he is mobile so easier said than done, but the Giants do have an athletic d-line and could get it done. That would take some heat off him.

  9. lawboy2000 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:21 PM

    No heat here. Couglin will retire at the end of the season and Cowher will be the new head coach. The Giants have a good QB and a good defense; all they need is a coach like Cowher to move to the next level.

  10. jpb12 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:25 PM

    After the Patriots win, the locker room loved him. He was the media darling again.

    Yesterday’s man.

    Norv Turner’s going to be available soon. That shuld cure their problem of starting early and collapsing mid season.

  11. trbowman says: Nov 22, 2011 6:31 PM

    Amazing. Such a great coach and they’re trying to run him out of town every year. And after one loss? Gimme a break.

  12. dallassux says: Nov 22, 2011 6:33 PM

    Here comes the typical flip-flopping. 3 weeks ago they were the worst team ever then they lost to seattle. Then they beat NE an they were winning the super bowl. Now they lost at home again to a dysfunctional eagles team. Sorry NY but your just like every other sports town. How’s that Karma taste?

  13. DonRSD says: Nov 22, 2011 6:38 PM

    Bill Cowher has been patiently waiting for the NYG coaching position to open up.
    It’s the only coaching job he wants.

  14. bearsrulepackdrool says: Nov 22, 2011 6:40 PM

    irishfan109 says:
    Nov 22, 2011 6:01 PM
    I feel like this story is run every year.

    ______________________________

    I’m starting to think they just copy and paste the same story:
    1 – at the beginning of the season.
    2 – if they have a losing record after 3 games.
    3 – if they go on a losing streak.
    4 – if/when they lose a big game.
    5 – if they don’t make the playoffs (what do they call that Black Monday? at the end of the season)
    6 – if/when they lose a playoff game.

    This gets old. But, as a Pats fan too. It’s just hilarious.

  15. bostonhasrealhockey says: Nov 22, 2011 6:43 PM

    Same story different season

  16. thefastpastor says: Nov 22, 2011 6:45 PM

    We’ll take him back in Jacksonville. Of course, most of us would probably take a ham sandwich over Del Rio.

  17. raynman49 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:58 PM

    Unfortunately, the old school coaches are fading out. You can’t tell these over paid primadonnas anything anymore, and if you do they disappear on Sunday.

  18. otistaylor89 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:58 PM

    I laugh when I hear the 49ers complain about their schedule when they would be fighting for their playoff lives if they had the Giants schedule this year.

  19. eigglesnosuperbowls says: Nov 22, 2011 7:04 PM

    Tom should stay ! Get rid of Jacobs,Umenyiora, Gilbride and this team will have addition by subtraction !

  20. jackfnburton says: Nov 22, 2011 7:05 PM

    And in other news, Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

    When is Coughlin NOT on the hot seat? Next story.

  21. TheWizard says: Nov 22, 2011 7:13 PM

    Bad move if they dump him.

  22. jucam1 says: Nov 22, 2011 7:16 PM

    He’s not a bad coach, he is strict and that is tough but I mainly blame the wildly overrated players like Jacobs, Rodgers, Hicks, Manningham, and Tuck that the Giants have…. You can disagree…. But you know I’m right….

  23. lott42 says: Nov 22, 2011 7:22 PM

    Anyone who saw how the Giants celebrated after beating the Pats should of seen this coming. Teams have to stop making their Pats games so important, each week counts the same.

  24. gcsuk says: Nov 22, 2011 7:30 PM

    jucam1 says: Nov 22, 2011 7:16 PM

    He’s not a bad coach, he is strict and that is tough but I mainly blame the wildly overrated players like Jacobs, Rodgers, Hicks, Manningham, and Tuck that the Giants have…. You can disagree…. But you know I’m right….
    ———————————————————————
    Sure, you’re right…except for the fact that the Giants don’t HAVE a player by the name of Rodgers on their roster. Neither do they have a players named Hicks (Hakeem Nicks, maybe)? Sorry, I couldn’t agree with Nicks or Tuck being over-rated either.

  25. blacknyellow86 says: Nov 22, 2011 7:42 PM

    Giants gonna get crushed by the Saints and Packers coming up and getting swept by dallas lol, might as well fire Tom now.. Bring in the Chin, Bill Cowher, we all know that is exactly what’s gonna happen once Tom is gone. Book it

  26. lbijake says: Nov 22, 2011 7:48 PM

    As an Eagles fan, I would greatly appreciate it if they would can Coughlin. Even if the Eagles seem to have his number, he is good for 9 to 12 wins a year, consistently. Plus he has his ring.

  27. theseekeroffun says: Nov 22, 2011 7:54 PM

    I would be shocked if they beat the Saints

    Me too, they could not beat Seattle!

  28. nfl fan says: Nov 22, 2011 7:59 PM

    bearsrulepackdrool says:
    Nov 22, 2011 6:40 PM
    irishfan109 says:
    Nov 22, 2011 6:01 PM
    I feel like this story is run every year. ______________________________
    I’m starting to think they just copy and paste the same story:
    1 – at the beginning of the season.
    2 – if they have a losing record after 3 games.
    3 – if they go on a losing streak.
    4 – if/when they lose a big game.
    5 – if they don’t make the playoffs (what do they call that Black Monday? at the end of the season)
    6 – if/when they lose a playoff game.

    This gets old. But, as a Pats fan too. It’s just hilarious.
    ———————————————–
    Hey Pats fan…you’ll always be 18-1…now that’s hilarious!

  29. eigglesnosuperbowls says: Nov 22, 2011 8:03 PM

    I take Tom twice on Sundays over these
    Reid, Shanahan, Garrett !

  30. cardmagnet says: Nov 22, 2011 8:16 PM

    He’s always been a crappy coach. This story is run just about every year. How the man managed to land a Super Bowl, I’ll never know.

  31. ctp603 says: Nov 22, 2011 8:17 PM

    Oldest coach in the NFL by quite a few years. Maybe it’s time for him to call it quits himself instead of the media and the fans dropping hints year after year.

    The problem with Coughlin is he is constantly screaming at his players during the games. It’s become so routine I’m willing to wager the players aren’t so scared of it anymore.

    It’s a tough city to coach in and he’s had a hell of a run. When the moment arrives and he does leave us, he will be revered.

  32. mcjon22 says: Nov 22, 2011 8:31 PM

    The Giants talent wise, aren’t that good right now. Their secondary and O-line is below average at best. It’s surprising they’ve been able to win as much as they have, that’s good coaching.

  33. david7590 says: Nov 22, 2011 8:38 PM

    @lanman11:

    Don’t forget the refs literally handing them the victory against Arizona.

  34. jc1958cool says: Nov 22, 2011 9:04 PM

    say bye!

  35. rugdaniels says: Nov 22, 2011 9:11 PM

    If Tom does go I really wouldn’t want Cowher. He was great in Pittsburgh but he’s been out of the game a long time. Tomlin’s had as much success as Cowher did and he’s been there only a few seasons.

    Bring in a young guy with new ideas who’s going to have a desire to prove himself instead of a guy who expects to be handed the keys to the kingdom the day he steps inside the front door.

  36. baroneski29 says: Nov 22, 2011 9:43 PM

    It’s not his fault that Jake Ballard couldn’t make a catch. It’s not his fault that the offensive and defensive lines were man handled. It’s not his fault that Gilbride doesn’t know how to run an offense, and it’s not his fault that Corey Webster missed a crucial tackle to end Phillys game winning drive.

  37. northernwisc says: Nov 22, 2011 10:02 PM

    Sure, you’re right…except for the fact that the Giants don’t HAVE a player by the name of Rodgers on their roster. Neither do they have a players named Hicks (Hakeem Nicks, maybe)? Sorry, I couldn’t agree with Nicks or Tuck being over-rated either.

    —————————————————-

    Well if they had a Hicks and Rodgers on the team, they would definitely be overrated and it would be Coughlin’s fault……….

  38. roadtrip3500 says: Nov 22, 2011 10:10 PM

    Cowher has been patiently sitting in the studio at CBS waiting for the Giants job. He knows it, everyone knows it. Remember, the Rooneys and Maras are joined by marriage; don’t think they don’t talk to each other. John Mara likely has all the info he needs on Cowher already, but as long as Coughlin has playoff-contending teams in December – collapse or not – there’s not enough justification to let him go. If the Bears had won in week 17 last year, the Giants would have been a wild-card team.

    If the Giants finish 8-8 or worse, I would expect Coughlin to be relieved of duty… at which point Cowher would probably walk from Manhattan to East Rutherford for the formality of the interview, along with Fewell to meet the Rooney rule (irony). The Giants will give Fewell a good recommendation and he’d probably get the head gig at a team like Jacksonville.

    That said, don’t rule Chucky out if the Giants job does open up. Gruden’s name hasn’t been linked to New York, but it would be THE team this off-season with the best chance to win – upper-echelon QB, 5 defensive ends who can get the QB (Osi, Tuck, JPP, Kiwi [a DE stuck at OLB], Tollefson – most teams barely have 1, let alone 2), a set of young receivers who can get deep and grow together, and up-and-coming guys in the secondary (Phillips, Webster, Amukamara). Let Jacobs go, use a full off-season and draft to shore up LB and the O-line, and the 2012 Giants should be a contender.

    The last two Giants head coaches reached the Super Bowl – the Maras and Tisches will not settle for less.

  39. alefty says: Nov 22, 2011 10:14 PM

    EAGLES!

  40. bspurloc says: Nov 22, 2011 10:29 PM

    ELI….
    put your hand to your face pull the lip up and close your MOUTH…..

    Now play football how your sposed too….

    U r too distracted where that drool is gunna drip off your lip than where u r throwing the ball…..

  41. blackandtealforeal says: Nov 22, 2011 10:30 PM

    Coughlin was a great coach here in Jax. Horrible GM. Still i wish we could have him back. At least he can coach. It’s obvious the passion he actually has about winning.

  42. atchick says: Nov 23, 2011 12:24 AM

    As he should!!!!!!

    “Im tired of reading this–they say this every year!! Come on man–even when the Giants didnt make the playoffs last year–they were 10-6″

    Well, I’m tired of starting out great and playing like crap the second half of the season. I’d rather see growth and improvement. There was no excuse to miss the playoffs last year other than they gave up in that Eagles game. FF 1 year…we control our own destiny and know the Cowboys are on our heels. What do they do? Lose to the Eagles…AGAIN! Now we are tied and have the worst schedule down the stretch and let not 1, but 2 teams back into the hunt for the division! Jacobs is less than a shadow of what he was, which is riduculous when this is time to audition for whichever team he hopes will take him next year if he’s so unhappy in NY. I, for one, am tired af great starts and mediocre finishes. I wasn’t happy they kept Tom last year, but I suspect that had to do with the CBA. If they don’t make the playoffs this year he needs to be gone.

  43. atchick says: Nov 23, 2011 12:28 AM

    eigglesnosuperbowls you are 2 for 3….Osi has played well despite his issues so I’m not sure on him. As for the other 2….cut him as soon as the season is over….don’t let the door hit you on the way out!

  44. atchick says: Nov 23, 2011 12:35 AM

    “It’s not his fault that Jake Ballard couldn’t make a catch. It’s not his fault that the offensive and defensive lines were man handled. It’s not his fault that Gilbride doesn’t know how to run an offense, and it’s not his fault that Corey Webster missed a crucial tackle to end Phillys game winning drive.”

    Yes it is…..He’s the coach!!!!!! He’s in charge and responsible for his assistants and his players and motivating them. Clearly, there was no motivation by either line or half the receivers or Jacobs to do anything productive Sunday night!

  45. szwhtsup123 says: Nov 23, 2011 12:39 AM

    We appreciate all that TC has given us over the years – usually in contention for a while and maybe the most incredible Super Bowl win ever. But these second half collapses every year are getting really old, the players don’t like to play for him, and maybe it’s time for a new staff. Gilbride isn’t winning anyone over either, so OK, we’ll take Cowher now…..

  46. 1phd says: Nov 23, 2011 1:01 AM

    otistaylor89 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:58 PM

    I laugh when I hear the 49ers complain about their schedule when they would be fighting for their playoff lives if they had the Giants schedule this year.
    ————
    Not as much as I was laughing when Justin Smith knocked down Eli’s poor pass to end the game against the 49ers and then there was the hilarity of watching the Seachickens hand them their a$$ as well. I believe that one was described as ‘crushing.’ Ain’t life funny like that?

  47. xtb3 says: Nov 23, 2011 1:37 AM

    blackandtealforeal says:
    Horrible GM.

    Real GM is Chris Mara.

    Same old Coughlin last half season collapse save 2007. Should have never lost either of the Seattle game or the last Philly game , let alone both. Both lost on terrible playcalling by Coughlin/Golbride.

    Maras low on cash spent nothing on Freee Agents this year filling team with minimum salaried players. They got what they paid for!

  48. goawayeverybody says: Nov 23, 2011 2:33 AM

    The Giants will lose their next three games and will be 6-7 and out of the playoff picture. I like the Giants but that’s just plain fact.

    And if anyone thinks the Saints are going to come off a bye week at home and lose to the injury-riddled Giants, they’re delusional.

    Saints 34, Giants 17, you can write it down.

  49. nflofficeadmin says: Nov 23, 2011 8:46 AM

    I like Cowher’s toughness. I have a lot of questions about a Cowher scenario in NY though -but the number one question would be:

    Will Cowher want to run a 3-4 defense like he did with the Steelers? – The Giants personnel is built for a 4-3, hands down.

    Would he keep Fewell if given the option? The kid is a stud DC.

  50. east96st says: Nov 23, 2011 9:53 AM

    “Maras low on cash spent nothing on Freee Agents this year filling team with minimum salaried players. They got what they paid for!”

    You’re kidding, right? No one can be that oblivious, can they? The NEW salary cap was lower than the old salary cap. The Giants were well over the cap. They HAD to cut players, allow free agents to leave, etc., because they were over the cap. Has NOTHING to do with the Maras financial situation at all. Had everything to do with the new CBA.

  51. roadtrip3500 says: Nov 23, 2011 11:01 AM

    @nflofficeadmin, I would think Cowher recognizes the benefit of the Giants being in a 4-3, as they have the linemen to properly run it (and don’t have the LBs).

    As for Fewell… he’s a good DC, but he’s no kid – he’ll be 50 next year.

  52. wenellniners says: Nov 24, 2011 9:36 AM

    tiki is flabbergasted…

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