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Ndamukong Suh: Packers aren’t perfect, Lions are at their level

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Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh says his teammates have no reason to be intimidated about their Thanksgiving showdown with the Packers.

“By all means, do I think our team is at their level, to be able to play against them,” Suh said in a conference call with the Green Bay media. “I don’t see them as a golden-perfect team. Everybody has flaws in this league, but everybody has great things they do. It’s just a matter of eliminating mistakes on our time and on our team and causing them to make as many mistakes as possible.”

Based on the two Packers-Lions games last year, Suh can make a good case about the Lions being on the Packers’ level: The teams played two essentially even games last year, with the Packers winning 28-26 in Green Bay and the Lions winning 7-3 in Detroit. But we have a lot more than those two games to use to evaluate these two teams, and it’s hard to see how any objective observer could say the undefeated Packers aren’t a better team than the Lions.

So Suh’s statement that the Lions are on the Packers’ level would seem to be going overboard. But he’ll have a chance to back up his statement on Thursday.

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  1. thridandlong says: Nov 22, 2011 5:28 PM

    Suh, play dirty against the Pack, and Rodgers will throw for 15,000 yards and 83 TD’s against you !

  2. dvdman123 says: Nov 22, 2011 5:29 PM

    I like the Lion’s chances in this game.

  3. typettman says: Nov 22, 2011 5:31 PM

    God damnit!, I knew this would happen any one of these days knowing the Lions…Green Bay really doesn’t need any bulletin board material guys..

  4. BlackAndGoldAllDay says: Nov 22, 2011 5:32 PM

    Pack might be a better team, objectively. But that’s not to say the Lions can’t beat them.

  5. thehatefulnerd says: Nov 22, 2011 5:33 PM

    Dirtiest player in the league.

  6. ivegotbigblogs says: Nov 22, 2011 5:33 PM

    After Suh rips the helmet off of Aaron Rodgers he will discover that Rodgers is a cyborg…a cyborg with a “Game Genie” lodged in the circuit board.

    Rodgers will go on to throw 4 TD’s without a head.

  7. jasku880 says: Nov 22, 2011 5:33 PM

    i like suh, plays hard but voted dirtiest player, now might be voted dumbest player with that comment.

  8. alldayvikings says: Nov 22, 2011 5:33 PM

    I’m excited about this game

  9. drshakedown74 says: Nov 22, 2011 5:33 PM

    He didn’t say that. He repeated the question…….he didn’t answer it. “By all means, do I think our team is at their level, to be able to play against them,” Suh said. Look at the word DO.

  10. dorn09 says: Nov 22, 2011 5:34 PM

    Drug test Suh now!

  11. clawledge says: Nov 22, 2011 5:34 PM

    I agree with Suh, the Lions aren’t perfect.

  12. upyoursnfu says: Nov 22, 2011 5:35 PM

    The Lions sure do talk a lot for a team who has yet to do anything

  13. capslockkey says: Nov 22, 2011 5:36 PM

    Yep. Lions are on the same level as the Pack. Not having a playoff appearance in over a decade is essentially the same as just coming off winning a Superbowl.

    Give me a break. If the Lions win this game I bet they’ll act like they just won the Super Bowl with Gatorade showers and what not, unlike a team who thinks they are already a Superbowl caliber team and it’s just another win against a divisional opponent. Guys couldn’t even act professional in a lose against Chicago a couple weeks ago.

  14. fearthewopr says: Nov 22, 2011 5:38 PM

    “By all means, do I think our team is at their level, to be able to play against them,”

    So Suh is saying that he thinks the Lions can compete against the pack? Ummm….should he say they cant compete?

  15. jacunn2000 says: Nov 22, 2011 5:39 PM

    Suh is going to be all over Rodgers. Rodgera is my faorite QB, but I ama little worried about this game. Suh is an animal.

  16. snarkzilla says: Nov 22, 2011 5:39 PM

    They concussed Rogers in the first game before any points were scored.

  17. hrmlss says: Nov 22, 2011 5:41 PM

    Keep talking. Wonder how many fines the Lion’s will get next week for late hits and personal fouls?

  18. enea900 says: Nov 22, 2011 5:43 PM

    This is the one team that matches up well with the Pack. The Lions D-line can against an average offensive line- it won’t matter how open the Packers receivers get if Aaron doesn’t have the time to throw the ball.

  19. stampede101 says: Nov 22, 2011 5:43 PM

    I honestly can’t remember the last time I was this excited to see a Lions Thanksgiving Day game.

  20. vickspuppy says: Nov 22, 2011 5:44 PM

    Suh doesn’t have a clue. After what Carolina just put on the board against them, I bet the Packers will put up a fifty-burger on them.

    I’ll be a little conservative with my prediction and call it Packers 42, Lions 27.

  21. whitecastleisafoodgroup says: Nov 22, 2011 5:45 PM

    Just back it up come Thursday.

  22. finsfrontofficeisajoke says: Nov 22, 2011 5:46 PM

    We’ll see in 2 days.

    That’s the beauty of the NFL.

  23. hendeeze says: Nov 22, 2011 5:46 PM

    The Wind > The comments from the Lions players.

  24. pedroherce says: Nov 22, 2011 5:48 PM

    Love it, but give it another year big man.

  25. blaz0037 says: Nov 22, 2011 5:48 PM

    If they win, he is a genius.

    If they lose, no big deal, everyone expects that.

  26. smo06d says: Nov 22, 2011 5:49 PM

    Take a chill pill Suh and quit taking every opportunity to proclaim the greatness of the Lions, we already have to deal with the Ryan brothers. On the other hand, PFT wants to thank you for keeping the hits coming.

  27. blaz0037 says: Nov 22, 2011 5:49 PM

    I think proclaiming you think you can go 19-0 and are already thinking about it is much more ridiculous than anything that Suh has ever said.

  28. irishfan109 says: Nov 22, 2011 5:49 PM

    Last time I checked, the Packers are 10-0.

  29. rmorris78 says: Nov 22, 2011 5:52 PM

    10-0

    They are perfect…

  30. thefnlimit says: Nov 22, 2011 5:54 PM

    as of right now the Packers are perfect (10-0). The Lions however, far from it. It’s about consistency Suh, who is more consistent? Does this mean that you think Stafford is as good as Rodgers? I like your confidence though. Keep it up.

  31. glac1 says: Nov 22, 2011 5:55 PM

    If Rodgers has time to throw…. ballgame over!

  32. chetwynnr says: Nov 22, 2011 5:55 PM

    The Lions have the POTENTIAL to be as good as the Packers. The pieces are there to compete at their level consistently. Now, whether they do or not is yet to be seen.

  33. jbl429 says: Nov 22, 2011 5:56 PM

    Didn’t Rodgers sit out the Detroit game because of a concussion? I’m pretty sure the Packers would have won with him at QB.

    Regardless, who cares, these are two different teams, and both are a lot better than they were a year ago at this point in the season. It should be a great game, and I can’t remember the last time the early game was worth watching on Thanksgiving.

  34. jackblackshairyback says: Nov 22, 2011 5:56 PM

    I dont like Suh, but I see nothing wrong with what he said here. He’s supposed to believe his team can win, and no, the Packers are not perfect.

  35. capslockkey says: Nov 22, 2011 5:57 PM

    Yeah, the Lions won 7-3 in Detroit……against Matt Flynn. BFD.

  36. wingz101 says: Nov 22, 2011 5:58 PM

    This article is really reaching. Suh is saying the Lions belong on the same field as the Packers and they do. Are the packers better? Probably since they are 10-0. That doesn’t mean they should just be declared “winner” and not even bother playing.

  37. discosucs2005 says: Nov 22, 2011 5:58 PM

    You know what would make a more interesting story, Suh says: there is no way we beat the Packers. They are better than us at every aspect of football.

  38. dukemarc says: Nov 22, 2011 5:59 PM

    enea900 says: Nov 22, 2011 5:43 PM

    This is the one team that matches up well with the Pack. The Lions D-line can against an average offensive line- it won’t matter how open the Packers receivers get if Aaron doesn’t have the time to throw the ball.

    —————————————-

    Since when is the Packers line “average”? The Kittens had a hard time getting pressure on Cutler and the Bears line is terrible.

  39. billymc75 says: Nov 22, 2011 5:59 PM

    Bout time the Pack play an above. 500 team.

  40. nflfollower says: Nov 22, 2011 6:06 PM

    I believe he’s just saying the Lions can play with the Packers. And they certainly can, if Stafford limits his turnovers. A lot of teams not as good as Detroit have hung with Green Bay right down to the wire this year, and that’s a fact.

  41. gosuhgo says: Nov 22, 2011 6:07 PM

    If the Lions only have to play the second half they’ll blow them out. They just have to figure out how to work that into the rules…

  42. camjon32 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:09 PM

    I love the confidence that Suh displays. I just hope he and the rest of the defensive linemen put enough pressure on Rodgers to keep him from flinging it all over the place. If Rodgers has just a few seconds to throw, he will KILL the Lions.

    He’s right about one thing though…there are similarities that are hard to ignore. Both teams get after the qb, both have explosive playmakers and neither team has much of a running game. The biggest difference is that the Packers have some real play makers in the defensive backfield.

    Bold prediction, the Lions cover but fail to win. 34-31.

    Having said all that, I hope I’m wrong. GO LIONS!!!

  43. nflfollower says: Nov 22, 2011 6:10 PM

    jbl429 says:
    Nov 22, 2011 5:56 PM
    Didn’t Rodgers sit out the Detroit game because of a concussion? I’m pretty sure the Packers would have won with him at QB.

    Regardless, who cares, these are two different teams, and both are a lot better than they were a year ago at this point in the season. It should be a great game, and I can’t remember the last time the early game was worth watching on Thanksgiving.

    —Rodgers played almost the entire first half before being knocked out BY the Lions, and couldn’t move the ball at all. Not saying I expect that this year, but that’s what happened last year.

  44. detroitsgonagetya says: Nov 22, 2011 6:10 PM

    Really? What do you expect him to say, we suck and they are going to kill us? As a Lions fan I kinda wish he would just shut up and play, but when asked the question, I would hope he answers that way. I want him to have the additude that they can win, even against a 10-0 Packers.

  45. packattack1967 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:11 PM

    If that were true, there would be a tie for first place.

  46. ryanw411 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:11 PM

    Yeah, the Lions won 7-3 in Detroit……against Matt Flynn. BFD.

    **********

    Rodgers played all but two minutes of the first half there genius and we were playing with a 3rd string QB. In fact in the last 4 quarters against Detroit Rodgers has 0 TDs and 3 picks with 2 fumbles. Had Woodson not started the second of half of the game at Lambeau with a pick 6 or Rayner doesn’t miss a FG we would have swept them last year.

  47. bossplayer213 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:12 PM

    Nothing wrong with what he said.

    Packers aren’t a perfect team and I do expect the Lions to be able to compete.

  48. woodyg says: Nov 22, 2011 6:15 PM

    “So-So-Suh” – the MoTown walkie-talkie …..

    This game is the season for the Lions ….. It’s just another game for the Pack …..The pressure is all on the Lions to back up their arrogant talk with results ……. Look for the Lions to lose their 3rd home game of the season & their 4th loss in the last 6 games …… Then NO will put a beat-down on them in week 13 …… That eventual 7-5 record will no doubt stop the needless hype ……

  49. supersuckers3 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:15 PM

    billymc75 says:
    Nov 22, 2011 5:59 PM
    Bout time the Pack play an above. 500 team.

    —————-

    They have beaten New Orleans, Chicago and Atlanta. 2 of those on the road. They can only play the schedule that they are given. Which with the exception of two games is on a rotational basis. This isn’t like the Wisconsin Badgers fooling their fanbase for years by scheduling four turds non conference and needing only two big ten wins to qualify for a bowl game. Oh that really happened? Yes in 2002 the 2-6 Wisconsin Badgers beat up on 5 non conference turds and won the meaningless Alamo Bowl and celebrated like they won the BCS title. 2-6. True story.

  50. bigtganks says: Nov 22, 2011 6:16 PM

    Discount Doublecheck!

  51. failcopter says: Nov 22, 2011 6:17 PM

    As an impartial Raider fan, all I can say is:

    Suh, you better back that up Thursday.

  52. rayjayjohnsonjr says: Nov 22, 2011 6:21 PM

    If Matt Millen was still there, they might even be better than the Pack by now, huh?….dream on Matt.

  53. cmdv8 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:23 PM

    I seem to remember rodgers playing almost 40 minutes of football before being concussed without scoring 1 point against the “crappy lions”and that was with drew frickn santon atthe helm (our 3rd string qb) im not sayn that we will win just sayn rodgers aint the god of football. btw we only lost by 2 points at gb with rodgers for 60 minutes and we had our 2nd string qb. the packers are good and probably better than detroitbut you packers fans are starting to sound like those chicago fans. i always felt like gb fans had class but now i wonder

  54. jimmysee says: Nov 22, 2011 6:25 PM

    Talk is cheap.

    Thursday is coming fast.
    :-)

  55. doowix says: Nov 22, 2011 6:25 PM

    Lions nearly won both games against the Packers last season with Stafford on IR and an awful core of linebackers.

  56. detroitrollin22 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:26 PM

    Lions will come out and win Thursday. Young team on the National Stage they’ll be pumped.

    Also to note, unlike most teams the Lions will only have to rush 4 players to get pressure on Rodgers and will be able to hang back in coverage.

    Go LIONS!

  57. nineroutsider says: Nov 22, 2011 6:26 PM

    The Lions look like an 8-8 team to me.

    The Lions defense had a fluke performance in that 7-3 game…won’t happen again.

  58. thesloppy says: Nov 22, 2011 6:28 PM

    vickspuppy says:
    Nov 22, 2011 5:44 PM

    Suh doesn’t have a clue. After what Carolina just put on the board against them, I bet the Packers will put up a fifty-burger on them.

    ——————–

    Yeah, the Packers would NEVER be down to the Panthers by double digits in the second quarter, their defense totally held Cam Newton to 430 yards, in his second game as a pro, and the Lions were 1 point shy of putting up a 50-burger on the same Carolina defense that GB put up 30 against, but other than that you’re right on top of it….the Detroit defense certainly won’t have it easy, but at home on Thanksgiving, they may just have to be better than the GB defense.

  59. nineroutsider says: Nov 22, 2011 6:34 PM

    Even if I do think the Lions are a .500 team…go Lions! The 9ers need homefield advantage throughout the playoffs.

  60. yfz450rider29 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:39 PM

    Stop with the “Matt Flynn was QB” crap! Shawn Hill was the Lions QB! Our starter was also out. And everyone stop thinking the Packers will blow out the Lions. The packers give up a ton of points. Now I’m not saying the packers won’t win because they probably will. But anyone that makes excuses for the lions winning last year, or saying they don’t have a chance this year probably doesn’t watch too much football!

  61. bischof21 says: Nov 22, 2011 6:48 PM

    Back what up? Did people even bother to read the story or did they just read the headline? There is nothing wrong with what Suh said or anything disrespectful at all to the Packers. Some people really are too touchy.

  62. raybees says: Nov 22, 2011 6:55 PM

    ok you took off my last post, let me ask again if the lions win , they play dirty. if the packers win,are the lions still a dirty team?

  63. pack0314 says: Nov 22, 2011 7:00 PM

    This is a very dangerous game for the Pack. Definitely the best, most complete team they’ve faced all year. Hopefully, they’ll get through it like the others, with a win.

  64. pat940 says: Nov 22, 2011 7:01 PM

    We played last year with our backup as well. Matt Flynn? He almost led the Pack to a W the following week vs the patriots correct? And the loss in GB, wasnt that our 3rd stringer Drew Stanton??

  65. jrmbadger says: Nov 22, 2011 7:01 PM

    “yfz450rider29 says:
    Nov 22, 2011 6:39 PM
    Stop with the “Matt Flynn was QB” crap! Shawn Hill was the Lions QB! Our starter was also out. And everyone stop thinking the Packers will blow out the Lions. The packers give up a ton of points. Now I’m not saying the packers won’t win because they probably will. But anyone that makes excuses for the lions winning last year, or saying they don’t have a chance this year probably doesn’t watch too much football!”

    You are missing the point. The point most posters were making is that meaningful comparisons to last year’s loss in Detroit cannot be made because Rodgers didn’t play half the game. I’d also like to add that neither did Stafford or Finley.

    Basically last year means nothing.

  66. packfaninchitown says: Nov 22, 2011 7:04 PM

    There will be no living with us Packer fans after our boys go 11-0 Thursday…

  67. snarkzilla says: Nov 22, 2011 7:10 PM

    >A lot of teams not as good as Detroit have hung with Green Bay right down to the wire this year, and that’s a fact.

    Not sure what “hang with” means but the Packers haven’t trailed in the fourth quarter in any of the last 15 games.

  68. judsonjr says: Nov 22, 2011 7:13 PM

    The problem with the Packers last year vs. the Lions in Detroit was that they were still in the “establish the run” mode, so their offense was run, run, pass.

    The Lions did pressure Rodgers a ton, but Rodgers didn’t really play as bad as 7/11 for 30 some yards and an INT indicate. What should have been a 75 yard TD on a bomb to Driver ended up being an INT when it bricked off his hands to the DB who had been toasted. Additionally Quarless killed a drive with a fumble.

    I do believe Suh is right though. The Lions beat the teams they should, and then play everyone else really tough.

    As a Packer fan my worry would be defending the Lions in a two TE set. Pettigrew and Sheffler will give any of our safeties or LBs problems. If you put Woodson on one of the TE’s then Williams or Shields have a huge size disadvantage against Megatron.

  69. countyk66ers says: Nov 22, 2011 7:21 PM

    Graham Harrell throwing left handed could beat the Lions.

  70. yfz450rider29 says: Nov 22, 2011 7:21 PM

    Jrmbadger, I agree I just don’t like people using last years excuses this year. We will know Thursday afternoon how these teams matchup.

  71. snarkzilla says: Nov 22, 2011 7:24 PM

    Packers will miss Nick Collins big time this game. It’s hard to see anything that Capers could fabricate to compensate for that at Ford Field.

  72. catchhester23 says: Nov 22, 2011 7:33 PM

    Won’t happen. Bet lions fans wish it did all excited that cutler got hurt thinking playoffs are a lock but I think the bears will be 12-4 lions 10-6. If the bears get past the raiders 5-1 with hanie only loss gb.

  73. spartaninnh says: Nov 22, 2011 7:37 PM

    Suh does not fear you.

    Doesn’t mean the Lions will win. Doesn’t mean the Pack won’t score. Just means it will be a game.

    Suh does not fear you. And you’d better keep an eye on him. And Corey. And KVB. And Avril. And Houston. And Wright. And Delmas. And Tulloch. And Durant. And Levy. And…. Need I go on?

    Game on, Pack.

  74. kiopta1 says: Nov 22, 2011 7:45 PM

    Yeah I guess Suh should have said that they (gb) couldn’t be beaten…and that they will win the SB.

  75. steelerhypocrite says: Nov 22, 2011 7:49 PM

    Bye Bye to perfection Green Bay (and maybe a Super Bowl). Detroit is going to hurt you…that GB O-Line is weak…and Detroit only needs to rush 4…Rodgers will be frazzled and have to hold it longer as there will be 7 in coverage…can’t wait to see all the crying on the Packers sideline.

  76. dd393 says: Nov 22, 2011 7:50 PM

    Actually, the Lions and Ndamukong Suh are ahead of the Packers in tearing off other players’ helmets after the whistle blows.

  77. garyman1 says: Nov 22, 2011 8:00 PM

    I don’t see this as a big deal…. As a Packer fan I can tell you that we ARE very beatable. The Panthers almost beat us…. as did several other teams.

    It’s not that complicated…whoever executes better on Thursday will win (but I guess that’s usually the case)

  78. descendency says: Nov 22, 2011 8:00 PM

    The Packers would have lost to San Diego had Phillip Rivers not turned into ‘Bad Favre’

  79. beedubyatoo says: Nov 22, 2011 8:03 PM

    OK, let’s fantasize and say the Lions win on Thursday. They play again on New Year’s Day in GB. By that time, the Packers will be resting their starters for the playoffs. I wonder how you’re going to like playing outside in Wisconsin in January, Sue.

    Thursday is only one game in a long season. Come February, the Pack will be bringing another Lombardi Trophy home to Green Bay. #14, in a long line of NFL championships.

  80. achamarro1 says: Nov 22, 2011 8:10 PM

    Teams have hung in there against the packers that is a fact. No teams dont have to be up in the fourth quarter to “hang” with them. It will be a close game this turkey day and that is good enough for most of the lions fanbase. If anybody truely thinks that the lions will get blown out they are just wrong. Lions run defense is poor but there passing defense is top 10 if nt better. And excpet for the turd burger the dropped in chi town the lions had the best turnover ratio in football. Oh lil tidbit guess who is second in TD’s to rodgers…..yes STAFFORD!!!!!!! Not saying stafford is near rodgers at all but stafford is in his “3rd” year and gamewise mid way threw his 2nd season. Rodgers sat for 3 years behind brett frickin favre and Greenbay has the best quarterback “school” in the league, So rodgers was able to be groomed into the raw beast he is now..hands down rodgers is the best Qb in football…stafford could only strive to be that good…GO LIONS 20-17 lions

  81. getsome636 says: Nov 22, 2011 8:14 PM

    The Lions are the mouthiest team that has done nothing to earn it. At least the Jets have been to a couple championship games. The Lions, and their fans, talk a lot of trash after barely beating the Panthers at home.

  82. whatswiththehate says: Nov 22, 2011 8:14 PM

    The way the Lions have been bullying teams they have lost too of late, here’s hoping Rodgers will get out of the way when the fists start flying between the Packers and Lions.

    I wanted the Panthers to win to see if Suh and the boys would have started a fight with the Panthers. But alas, the Panthers’ defense were their usual generous selves and allowed the Lions to not only comeback, but get two extra tds for good measures.

  83. snarkzilla says: Nov 22, 2011 8:16 PM

    Reality check:

    If the Lions win Thursday Green Bay will have a two game lead with one left against the Lions and one against Caleb Hanie/Kyle Orton and the Bears.

  84. tangysizzl says: Nov 22, 2011 8:17 PM

    I don’t have a problem with what Suh said, hes a confident man and hes right GB is not perfect.

    Tough game in a loud stadium on a short week easily makes this the biggest test of GB’s season.

  85. cardmagnet says: Nov 22, 2011 8:17 PM

    The Packers record would disagree on the “aren’t perfect” line there, Suh. He probably plans to end that streak by body slamming Rodgers after the ball is 10 yards down the field, in typical Ndamukong Suh fashion.

  86. jimmysee says: Nov 22, 2011 8:25 PM

    Isn’t this Suh guy the one who claimed over and over the Lions would go 16-0?

    Division games are always tough — for both sides.

    Even for the Lions.

    Even at home.

  87. jimmylions says: Nov 22, 2011 8:27 PM

    This is a non-story. Suh gave the textbook response saying his team can compete.

    Guess what? This is the NFL. On any given Sunday, anyone can beat anyone. That’s why they play the games. You never know what’s going to happen.

    That being said, I like our chances in this game a lot. The pressure is all on Green Bay. They’re the ones who are protecting a perfect record. They’re the ones who are being touted as the best team in the NFL.

    The fans at Ford’s Glass House will be much louder than anything the Packers have faced this year. It’s going to be a great game.

  88. axespray says: Nov 22, 2011 8:28 PM

    nflfollower says:Nov 22, 2011 6:06 PM
    ” A lot of teams not as good as Detroit have hung with Green Bay right down to the wire this year, and that’s a fact.”
    ——————————–
    Know what else is a fact?
    I recall two teams not as good as the Packers going into detroit and winning….

    Aaron Rodgers and the Packers > matt ryan & alex smith ….

  89. axespray says: Nov 22, 2011 8:32 PM

    cmdv8 says:Nov 22, 2011 6:23 PM
    “i always felt like gb fans had class but now i wonder.”
    ————————-
    I used to think Detroit fans were actually nice and humble, then their team started winning and the lions fans became far more annoying than obnoxious Steeler fans…

  90. perry1977 says: Nov 22, 2011 8:40 PM

    Whoa a Thanksgiving Lions game that mattered? This hasn’t happened since 1972!

  91. Ram says: Nov 22, 2011 8:41 PM

    Shut it Suh! Quit yapping and just bring it on the field. Packers are the defending SuperBowl champs. Your team hasn’t even sniffed the playoffs in over a decade.

  92. snarkzilla says: Nov 22, 2011 8:57 PM

    >The Packers would have lost

    Woulda shoulda coulda. Packers won. Think their D may have had anything to do with Rivers’ performance?

  93. sakatak says: Nov 22, 2011 9:04 PM

    I have been waiting since 1962 for this rematch. That Thanksgiving day Alex Karras and Roger Brown gave me indigestion as I watched the Lions spoil the Packers perfect season. Revenge will be sweeter than pumpkin pie. GO PACK GO

  94. leatherface2012 says: Nov 22, 2011 9:08 PM

    dont respect gb for running up the score on tampa like they did…..absolutely ridiculous

  95. jarrman46 says: Nov 22, 2011 9:14 PM

    I see Charles Woodson doing the Heisman pose in the end zone after another pick 6. This Green Bay team has been in a ton of big games in the last year (6 straight elimination games last year ,the Big Favre games with the Vikings, Opening day against the Saints, playoff game in Arizona) The Lions cant match that. They will wilt under those hot Turkey day lights by halftime.

  96. uwachampion says: Nov 22, 2011 9:25 PM

    Ndamukong Suh = Rex Ryan of Detroit….He just dosnt know when to shut up. If you are as good as them prove it!!!!

  97. thelomasbrowns says: Nov 22, 2011 9:29 PM

    Suh has the right attitude. He’s not gloating, he’s just confident in his team.

    And I love how all these people who say “Oh, Rodgers got a concussion” conveniently forget that the Lions were playing with their THIRD STRING quarterback.

  98. nupicasso says: Nov 22, 2011 9:29 PM

    The Packers aren’t perfect, but guess what??? The find ways to win. That cant be said for most teams in the league this year. Ive seen great teams lose to subpar teams all season. The Packers have found ways to win week in and week out. If and when they do start playing well, they’re gonna really be unstoppable. let’s hope that happens just as we hit playoff time.

  99. noeffinway says: Nov 22, 2011 9:30 PM

    Are all packer fans ignorant asses or is it just the ones that post on here?

  100. commandercornpone says: Nov 22, 2011 9:39 PM

    from north of daytwa…

    lions have potential.

    they knocked rodgers out in their SECOND game vs gb last year.

    suh talks too much. and he and avril need to worry less about pulling stunts to embarass an opponent than they need to work on defeating any opponent.

    opponents have started to decipher that u can run best on the lions when u run right at their star. i will probly take the points on this one, but if the pack gets up 27-7 (like carolina did), there wont be any miracle comeback.

  101. 2wheels2many says: Nov 22, 2011 10:03 PM

    dorn09 says:
    Nov 22, 2011 5:34 PM
    Drug test Suh now!

    ——————————-

    Yeah and the rest of the league while you’re at it.

    Clay’s neanderthal brow and monstrosity of a jaw are naturally occurring…………………………..right?

  102. truant519 says: Nov 22, 2011 10:10 PM

    If there is a game that the Packers will loose, this is it.

    If Stafford sticks to the underneath stuff and resists the urge to throw deep early and get picked off and thier coverage teams play decent, then the Lions have avery good chance at winning this game.

    It’s going to be a shoot out

    41 Lions
    38 Pack

    Lions win on a late field goal

  103. kennyrogerschicken says: Nov 22, 2011 10:15 PM

    steelerhypocrite says: Nov 22, 2011 7:49 PM

    Bye Bye to perfection Green Bay (and maybe a Super Bowl). Detroit is going to hurt you…that GB O-Line is weak…and Detroit only needs to rush 4…Rodgers will be frazzled and have to hold it longer as there will be 7 in coverage…can’t wait to see all the crying on the Packers sideline.

    ——————————————

    Kinda like last year’s Super Bowl against that vaunted Steelers defense, huh?

  104. pauliepennino says: Nov 22, 2011 10:16 PM

    To suggest the Lions are the best team GB has faced all year is ignorant…Green Bay beat New Orleans and Atlanta, both well ahead of Detroit. The Lions are a young and hungry team, Suh is really good, but Stafford is injured and I don’t think the Lions can outscore Green Bay. I also think too many people commenting here just repeat, almost verbatim, comments made on Sirius NFL Radio and pass them off as their own take…weak weak weak

  105. dannomac21 says: Nov 22, 2011 10:16 PM

    thanks suh. when will teams learn not to give arodge bulletin board material? what an idiot.

    pack already won

  106. shaggytoodle says: Nov 22, 2011 10:19 PM

    Yeah… and the eagles are a dream team.

  107. 2wheels2many says: Nov 22, 2011 10:26 PM

    GB is not only a great team and organization, but a classy one as well. The Lions have done nothing to convince me that they can put a complete game together. If they do, they have a chance. If they continue the trend and do not, ugly embarrassing loss. The Pack is just too damn good. It is what it is.

  108. cubear34 says: Nov 22, 2011 10:40 PM

    Lets just play the game already. Not that anyone gives a s#1t but I’m taking the lions to win straight up. That dome is going to be unbelievably loud, so im basically betting on the lions fans to make the difference in this nfc showdown.

  109. mdown15 says: Nov 22, 2011 10:45 PM

    Wow, you guys are either naive or complete morons. So, when asked by the media if he thinks his team can compete, etc, is he supposed to say “NO?” Why show up and play the game then?

    Any team on any given Sunday can win or lose. That’s why they play the game.

    And people saying the Lions are dirty, etc. Isn’t the NFC north commonly referred to as the “Black and Blue” division? This isn’t flag football, ladies. It’s good to see any type of physicality in “Goodell’s” game.

    So, quit your pouting and actually be happy there should be an entertaining game on this year while you are eating your turkey – not like years past.

    Go Niners! :)

  110. jpebcac says: Nov 22, 2011 10:50 PM

    Whether he’s right or wrong, I want every player on my team to always think they play on the same level as the best team in the league. Anyone that says different just admits defeat before they play the game. Anything can happen on a Sunday, you want players who believe that.

  111. snarkzilla says: Nov 22, 2011 10:59 PM

    2wheels2many, read up on NFL steroid testing. before you post accusations again. It’s almost impossible for users to not be detected.

  112. mdown15 says: Nov 22, 2011 11:01 PM

    snarkzilla, you are assuming that he can read!?!? :)

  113. shaggytoodle says: Nov 22, 2011 11:36 PM

    While Suh thinks they are at the Lions are on the same level he is wrong. The Packers are above that, even if the Packers do lose all they have to do is manage not to start a fight. Which the Lions have managed to do 2 of 3 times now.

    The Packers won’t stoop to your level Suh.

  114. gettinwestern says: Nov 22, 2011 11:49 PM

    Hope with Pack smack the Lions but…they’re ripe for their first loss, possibly in a big way. Starks, Grant, ehh, so-so. Not much of a threat. O-line has pockets of inexperience and can be exploited. Defense has major leakage issues. Only chance for the Pack is to jump ahead early and hold on for their lives.

  115. childressrulz says: Nov 23, 2011 12:03 AM

    descendency says: Nov 22, 2011 8:00 PM

    The Packers would have lost to San Diego had Phillip Rivers not turned into ‘Bad Favre’
    ____________________________
    Uhm.. they also needed a successful on-sides kick to even get close in the 4th quarter. You do not get luckier than that. The Chargers were destroyed and then they got super freaking lucky to even get with in striking distance of the Packers who promptly shut you down TWICE at the end to win.

  116. childressrulz says: Nov 23, 2011 12:06 AM

    cubear34 says: Nov 22, 2011 10:40 PM

    Lets just play the game already. Not that anyone gives a s#1t but I’m taking the lions to win straight up. That dome is going to be unbelievably loud, so im basically betting on the lions fans to make the difference in this nfc showdown.
    _______________________________
    The Packers winning EASILY is like sex with Kobe Bryant. The Lions fans can yell and scream all they want but it is going to happen.

  117. gojags says: Nov 23, 2011 12:15 AM

    Ndamukong Suh: Packers aren’t perfect, Lions are at their level….

    And my son has a better arm than Aaron Rodgers and my son is 3 years old.

  118. Andre's Johnson says: Nov 23, 2011 12:27 AM

    Things that have gotten old on PFT comment threads:

    1. “Cue the…”
    2. Any use of the greater-than sign (>)

    Things that will never get old:

    1. Rex foot jokes
    2. Adding lots of G’s to Greggggg

  119. brewcrewfan54 says: Nov 23, 2011 12:30 AM

    This whole thing is petty. I don’t expect Suh or any other Packers opponent to say anything different. On the road against a good Detroit team and their 3rd game in 11 days, this certainly is a game the Pack could lose. Doesn’t matter though. They’ll still be in first place if they do. The Pack controls their own destiny and the #1 is theirs to lose.

  120. bittersportspills says: Nov 23, 2011 12:30 AM

    For once, the first game on Thanksgiving looks to be the one to watch.

    Suh talks a lot of junk, but it’s actually nice to see someone on that team with some confidence. It’s been a while.

  121. honolulubluekoolaid says: Nov 23, 2011 12:38 AM

    This story and most of its comments proves there is a lack of education in America. Why would a professional athlete not go into a game thinking they could beat anyone? Idiots, it’s not like he said it without being asked a question. When faced with a challenging task at your job do you tell your boss you probably can’t do it?

    I have alot of respect to the packers. They are a great team with a lot of history, but this is the game the Lions have been looking forward to since starting 5-0. This is all the media has been talking about since week 5 in regards to the Lions.

    Looking forward to a close hard fought game. Maybe one of the best of classic thanksgiving game.
    Go Lions.

  122. lionsplayoffs says: Nov 23, 2011 1:24 AM

    The best thing about this game is that it’s not 2004 and Peyton Manning can’t throw 6 TD’s on us before halftime.

  123. howiehandles says: Nov 23, 2011 1:25 AM

    While as a Bear’s fan, I have no love for the Lion’s, and especially Suh, what do you expect him to say?

    I just hope its a good (competitive) game….and both teams lose.

  124. klunge says: Nov 23, 2011 1:29 AM

    As usual, MDS overblows some typical statement that just about every football player has said before, just another of his usual efforts to put a negative spin on it for his anti-Suh, anti-Lion agenda. This is not even a story, shame on everyone for getting all worked up about it and encouraging him to write more.

  125. jimmylions says: Nov 23, 2011 3:00 AM

    Interesting that PFT didn’t highlight the interview where Stafford talks about how amazing the GB defensive back field are.

    Instead a decision was made to make it sound like Suh said something controversial (to fit a predetermined ongoing storyline to call Suh a bad guy).

    “By all means, do I think our team is at their level, to be able to play against them,” (that was no doubt in response to a question asking whether the Lions are at their opponents level – a stupid question to ask anyone on any team)

    “Everybody has flaws in this league, but everybody has great things they do.” (wow, that’s real bulletin board material)

    And in other news, Mitt Romney said that Ndamukong Suh said that he believes in handing the NFL over to Iran – further proof that Suh is evil and the spawn of Satan.

    My favorite Suh quote of the year, “Evil wins.”

  126. packfanatic says: Nov 23, 2011 4:20 AM

    although packers secondary is giving up big yards, and lions will look to exploit that but honestly only way detroit has any chance what so ever in this game is too force turnovers, and with aaron rodgers at qb, don’t count on any. close game first half but i expect packers finish strong and remain undefeated

  127. asublimeday says: Nov 23, 2011 4:23 AM

    Bears must’ve given him a concussion in that beat-down. Boy is delirious.

  128. tatum064 says: Nov 23, 2011 5:46 AM

    thridandlong says:
    Nov 22, 2011 5:28 PM
    Suh, play dirty against the Pack, and Rodgers will throw for 15,000 yards and 83 TD’s against you !

    ===================

    Uh, Rodgers has to finish the game. We all know what happened when they went up to Detroit.

  129. explorer199748 says: Nov 23, 2011 6:21 AM

    Hey Sue….have another doughnut

  130. stellarperformance says: Nov 23, 2011 6:25 AM

    It doesn’t make any difference how good or bad either of these teams are…the Lions just always seem to have the Packers number. It will take more than skill to beat the Lions on Thursday. The Packers need to take it to ‘em and beat them at their own game…hard and physical. There’s no time for finesse against these guys. GO PACK!

  131. briggsweatbird says: Nov 23, 2011 6:49 AM

    Who cares what ANY player says? It makes NO difference. Let’s just play the game and see what happens.

  132. calloustongue says: Nov 23, 2011 7:05 AM

    They both play in the NFL. That’s about where the same level talk ends. The Packers are better everywhere except D-line. QB, WR, TE, O-line, LB, DB, ST, coaching. RB is a wash at this point.

    Rodgers is lights out in domes. Throw out the overlooked game the Packers played last year where the Lions needed a miracle turnover from Greg Jennings, and you’ll see what I mean.

    Lions simply do not have the personnel to match up with the Packers. Plain and simple. Jordy, Donald, Greg, James, Randall, Jermichael. Pick your poison.

    That INT machine Stafford will throw at least 1 to Woodson, Shields, and Tramon.

    Enjoy your descent back to reality Detroit.

  133. honolulubluekoolaid says: Nov 23, 2011 8:05 AM

    Just in case on Thursday you non lions fans are wondering what the song you here playing after the lions score …..it’s gridiron heroes, sung by a guy wearing a hard hat and lions jersey with “gridiron” as the name on it.

    The lyrics go like this……

    “Forward down the field,
    A charging team that will not yield.
    And when the Blue and Silver wave,
    Stand and cheer the brave.
    Rah, Rah, Rah.
    Go hard, win the game.
    With honor you will keep your fame.
    Down the field and gain,
    A Lion victory!”

    I only mention it because win or lose you will hearing it alot!

    I was at the Monday night game this year and the place was as loud as I have ever heard it. I could not hear my friend next to me. (we were in the 4th row) the old guy behind me had paper stuffed in his ears.
    It is going to be loud!

  134. billh1947 says: Nov 23, 2011 8:23 AM

    Suh and the Lions defense is really good and out great pressure on the qb but this time around they better be in great shape because McCarthy is no dummy as coach,he knows this too and will have the offense come out and play no huddle,fast and furious,can the Lions stay fast against it? nope,they will slow down and the pressure on Rodgers will disappear and then the fun really will begin for the offense while Suh and the defense is sucking dome air,Pack wins easily 38-17.

  135. malikpeterson says: Nov 23, 2011 8:32 AM

    They concussed Rogers in the first game before any points were scored.

    ___________________________________

    Because they concussed him at the end of the first half…meaning he had no opportunity to move the ball or score points against the Lions?

    Need I remind you that the touchdown the Lions scored was with one Drew Stanton at the helm?

  136. tejano2k says: Nov 23, 2011 9:14 AM

    Nothing to get excited about as far as Suh’s statement. He knows (as do the Packers) the challenge ahead and that’s why the game is played as scheduled. On Game Day, no excuses from either side. Trash talk, although pretty fun to do and read, never won a game as far as I know. GO PACKERS!

  137. packmanfan says: Nov 23, 2011 5:52 PM

    In other words:
    We of the Lions are low down dirty cheating players who will get in a dirty hit whenever we can and the Packers don’t do that.
    The Packers are on another higher level because they have class and we don’t.

  138. detroitfan13 says: Nov 23, 2011 6:54 PM

    Callous tongue, I could legit punch you in the mouth for being so ignorant.
    Oh, btw, stafford is a int throwing machine? Lmao, like, because of one bad game? 25 Tds to 10 ints is not too bad kid.

  139. doggler says: Nov 23, 2011 7:45 PM

    The cheese you knuckleheads where on your head has obviously molded and burned too many brain cells. Suh is no more a dirty player than Ditka or Green was in their day. He is simply a bad-ass defensive tackle who stops at nothing to do his job and that is knock the QB on his ass. And whether you like it or not the Lions are going to serve up a big fat “L” for your prescious packers.

  140. 2wheels2many says: Nov 23, 2011 8:30 PM

    snarkzilla says:
    Nov 22, 2011 10:59 PM
    2wheels2many, read up on NFL steroid testing. before you post accusations again. It’s almost impossible for users to not be detected.

    —————–

    Thanks Tips. H.G.H.

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