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Elway is “very hopeful” that Tebow will be the answer

Former Broncos quarterback John Elway claps on the sidelines during the second half of their NFL football game against the Dolphins in Miami Reuters

Two days after his “um . . . no” response and six after that perfunctory golf clap coupled with an “oh crap, we’re stuck with him” look on his face, Broncos V.P. of football operations John Elway once again has addressed the future of quarterback Tim Tebow.

Appearing on KOA radio in Denver, Elway said he hopes Tebow becomes the team’s long-term franchise quarterback.

I am very hopeful that Tim Tebow is our guy,” Elway said, via Mike Klis of the Denver Post.  “Am I absolutely positive at this point in time?  No I’m not.  I want to believe that and that’s what I want to happen.”

Fine, but why say anything when everything that represents less than unequivocal support for the second-year quarterback will rile up the Tebowmaniacs?

”It would be absolutely wonderful for the Denver Broncos and Denver Bronco fans if Tim Tebow could become that franchise guy,” Elway said.  “And believe me we’re all hopeful he can be that guy.  He’s come in and won four of the past five games and he’s played well. You’re not always going to make great strides week-in and week-out because you have ups and downs.  But what I want to emphasize is, we’re all hopeful Tim’s the guy.  I wish I had that crystal ball to be able to say that he absolutely is or . . .  I don’t want to say he’s not because I don’t believe that.  But it’s hard to say if Tim Tebow is absolutely that guy.  We’re very hopeful that he is.”

The problem is that the Tebowmaniacs already believe he has earned the right to be the “franchise guy,” at least for 2012 if not beyond.  And so they don’t want to hear anything other than positive comments from Elway or coach John Fox about the object of their extreme affection.

In other words, Elway’s Twitter feed is about to blow up.  Again.

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  1. bulldogslc says: Nov 23, 2011 9:48 PM

    Am I the only one that finds this amusing?

  2. powderedme says: Nov 23, 2011 9:49 PM

    I’m “very hopeful” everytime I buy a $1 scatch-off lottery ticket too but, well… you know…

  3. tjacks7 says: Nov 23, 2011 9:51 PM

    I call BS on this. He wants a pocket passer.

  4. pitt58 says: Nov 23, 2011 9:52 PM

    He really needs to stop talking about this. Tebow may not be the best QB, but he’s better at it than Elway is at this.

  5. trbowman says: Nov 23, 2011 9:54 PM

    Fox and his coaching staff’s job is to win football games. They’re doing their best at that with a short-term answer in running the zone read offense

    It’s Elway’s job to think long-term. And he rightfully sees that you can’t win a Super Bowl, which is the whole purpose, with Tebow. Fox has done a great job playing to Tebow’s strengths (re – not throwing the ball), but it’s in no way a long term answer.

    If I’m a Broncos fan, I’m encouraged by Elway.

  6. marilynpost says: Nov 23, 2011 9:54 PM

    How many enjoyed Tebow’s college games? RIGHT a different kind of game than Broncos NFL–Tebow is inconsistent and has a weird popularity…Elway, no idiot, has to be worried opponents will take a few pages from The Crimson Tide everytime Broncos with Tebow play. Sure Tebow has a calling its just not NFL-
    he is in the NFL because his college coach made him look great when ordinary he be.

  7. chief4ever says: Nov 23, 2011 9:54 PM

    bulldogslc says:Nov 23, 2011 9:48 PM

    Am I the only one that finds this amusing?

    I find it very amusing.

  8. war27 says: Nov 23, 2011 9:54 PM

    John’s lying or he has taken one too many shots to the head.

    What’s gonna happen on Jan 1st when Orton goes an Orton like 11-23 156 1td 2int and beats the Tebow lead broncos?

  9. cobrala2 says: Nov 23, 2011 9:55 PM

    I think John Elway wanted to become VP of Football Operations exclusively to get a photo like that to be posted on the interweb. Elway’s getting a chubby just looking at himself. Go get ’em, John!

  10. war27 says: Nov 23, 2011 9:57 PM

    Elway will be able to do whatever he wants with him by the end of the season.

    That staium was starting to turn on Tebow during the second half of the Jet’s game. Didn’t here to much about it anywhere but listen to the crowd when Tebow misses pass after pass, the boo birds started chirping already. let the luster of some lucky wins rub off and people will prefer Tebow attends church on Sundays rather then suiting up.

  11. bullcharger says: Nov 23, 2011 9:57 PM

    It’s a great story as long as he’s a winner. If he loses a bunch of games in a row the diehard fans will turn against him in a heartbeat.

  12. cobrala2 says: Nov 23, 2011 9:57 PM

    Here’s your Seinfeld for you: John Elway won’t accept Tim as that guy until Tim gets thick, lustrous and skin with a pinkish hue.

  13. montym232 says: Nov 23, 2011 9:59 PM

    He will also be announcing that the Denver Broncos will be changing there names to the Denver Tebows!

  14. snarkzilla says: Nov 23, 2011 10:00 PM

    >why say anything when everything that represents less than unequivocal support

    Because he’s got a hyped up unruly fan base and has to cover all the bases. So he chose honesty. Weird, huh?

  15. steelerchicken says: Nov 23, 2011 10:00 PM

    Kordell Stewart! He will play well this year. With a full off season coaches will shut him down. He will be working in Columbus with Meyer.

  16. jvillenole says: Nov 23, 2011 10:01 PM

    Translation….”no chance Tebow is my guy”

    If he was, the answer would be “yes..Tebow is my guy.”

    Elway is a smart man. Not only a smart man, but a HOF quarterback. All these ‘Tebowmaniacs” might want to take a step back, and let a man who knows a thing or two about playing QB in the NFL do his thing.

    Bronco fans should be happy with Elways answer. Truth be told, I think Elway is building something special….and I a not a Broncos fan at all.

  17. ihatesocal says: Nov 23, 2011 10:02 PM

    Hey look, another PFT post trashing Tebow supporters.

  18. ademell1 says: Nov 23, 2011 10:06 PM

    Thank God Tim Tebow’s ‘great play’ & winning won’t last for long.

    It can’t. It won’t. Look at Bradford & McCoy after having success in their first yr starting, and in their 2nd years….not so successful. And those dudes are ACTUALLY QB’s with a future.

    Jesus Christ, Tebow is annoying. Not a QB, will not be in the league in a few yrs…

    So just enjoy the small window of success b4 it’s gone

  19. earthtopft says: Nov 23, 2011 10:07 PM

    Elway looks presidential in that shot. Too bad he acts janitorial when he opens his mouth.

  20. darrenindenver says: Nov 23, 2011 10:08 PM

    One thing he knows is that Kyle Orton is not the guy… Now it’s time to watch the Chefs find that out the hard way!

  21. tdrundmc says: Nov 23, 2011 10:08 PM

    shut up Mr. Ed

  22. rexismybff says: Nov 23, 2011 10:09 PM

    This from a guy who begged out of his first game as a pro by halftime, because Jack Lambert had already hit him about 10 times and was drooling blood and spit on him. From a guy who completed fewer than 50 percent of his passes as a rookie.
    Elway – you taught us all what Tebow really needs to be a “franchise qb” – he needs Terrell Davis rushing for 2000 yards and 25 TD’s. Like you had when you turned from a lovable loser into an “alltime great”.

  23. smo06d says: Nov 23, 2011 10:10 PM

    Epic fail. Starting Tebow was supposed to ensure a top 5 pick. He wasn’t actually supposed to win. $%&^

  24. deadmanwalking47 says: Nov 23, 2011 10:13 PM

    if he wants tebow to play well,maybe he ought to keep his mister ed smile and teeth away from talking about it with every reporter in sight! just start eating more carrotts and talking to everybody and you’ll be ok!

  25. maxvv says: Nov 23, 2011 10:14 PM

    He won’t be.

  26. mnajb says: Nov 23, 2011 10:15 PM

    Well, Elway hasn’t seen yet how well he can handle blitz pick-up for a real quarterback.

  27. yettyskills says: Nov 23, 2011 10:16 PM

    Tebow lovers reaction to those without faith in Tim the same way Muslims react to depictions of Mohamed.

  28. trbowman says: Nov 23, 2011 10:17 PM

    Oh, and the Broncos already have that franchise guy on their roster….

    Brady Quinn.

  29. franbotel says: Nov 23, 2011 10:17 PM

    The Religious fanatics have taken control of this franchise. No agent is ever going to let a young QB or good WR sign into this mess. Good luck with that Broncos Fans.

  30. earthtopft says: Nov 23, 2011 10:19 PM

    Like my Grandad used to say, “It’s too late to close the barn door after Mister Elway has pushed his horse head in.”.

  31. phelbin says: Nov 23, 2011 10:19 PM

    You gotta feel bad for Elway. Alienate a very vocal fanbase or play bad football. He can’t win either way.

  32. franknunley57 says: Nov 23, 2011 10:20 PM

    Think outside the box & draft another spread option qb (RGIII?) and run a college style, spread option offense that is fit for Tebow…in the NFL? They would need 2 qbs that can run the spread to pull it off.

  33. seatownballers says: Nov 23, 2011 10:27 PM

    Nice way to try to clean up your public insult. Too late john, it comes off as fake

  34. beeroncos says: Nov 23, 2011 10:27 PM

    John’s just being honest. Quite refreshing. Not sure why his comments made a stink, but the Tebow crazies want rainbows and unicorns and continue their odd faith in the kid.

    I hope Tebow turns into the franchise guy as well because that would mean my team is winning. Tired of being disappointed after another loss. If Elway says Tim is “the guy”, then that is great news…if not, I hope the execs can find “the guy” next April. Fans want their team to win. Tebow fans are wacky celebrity fans.

    – Broncos Lifer

  35. snarkzilla says: Nov 23, 2011 10:30 PM

    Why would Elway or anyone else trigger Tebow if he turns into a pretty good passer, converts 3rd downs and wins? Tebow’s got the offseason – before the draft – to show he can do it or that there’s real promise there. He certainly has the locker room presence. The Broncos are going to draft a QB anyway. The off season will help them figure out which ones to target.

  36. sinuoussausage says: Nov 23, 2011 10:32 PM

    the Tebowmaniacs-take-over talk is way overblown. Methinks Tesus has the potential to not only be a winning QB, but to change the way the position is played in the NFL forever. Note the word “potential.” In no way am I sold on him, I don’t even think Tebow would say he’s sold on himself. But the thing about the common sense Elway is promulgating is it makes the irrationality of the haters and fanboys all the more stark: with the former taking what appears to be an open-minded and hopeful stance on Tebow’s potential as evidence of disfavor and the latter taking it as an attack. I think we can all agree Tim’s done better than expected, that he does have a unique skill-set rarely if ever seen at the QB position, and that he deserves a fair evaluation. If winning a Heisman and a national championship wasn’t enough to get your attention, going 4-1 and resurrecting a moribund Broncos squad to legitimate playoff aspirations should definitely make you stop and think.

  37. denverhighrize says: Nov 23, 2011 10:34 PM

    Being in Denver it’s nice to see them put up some wins but it’s hard to know if Tebow is the answer. The biggest fear for some is that they might actually end up 9 and 7, because, then what? Tough to believe that this style of play holds up.

    Personally I appreciate the fact that Elway is being honest.

  38. nightwalker43 says: Nov 23, 2011 10:39 PM

    Hey John, do us all a favor and give the kid a shot somewhere else because you clearly don’t want him. That’s fine, but don’t jerk him around. A clean amicable break for all parties involved, turn the page. But I guess that would mean no more making money off of Tebow merchandise and considering your a 4-12 team I guessing there ain’t much to root for out there, hard dilemma.

  39. clevername1 says: Nov 23, 2011 10:45 PM

    That’s funny: “perfunctory golf clap”. I suppose Elway is not welcoming the attention this kid is bringing. Sold out house, #15 jerseys flying off the rack, and Bronco’s front and center on sports center every monday. Yeah, bring back Orton.

  40. ambitoos says: Nov 23, 2011 10:50 PM

    The man can’t throw straight. How can he be a starter. He’s no Michael Vick.

  41. Andre's Johnson says: Nov 23, 2011 10:53 PM

    Two disclaimers:
    1) I’m not a Broncos fan.
    2) I don’t think Tebow’s on his way to greatness.

    Now my comment:

    John Elway is coming across as a big-time douche bucket.

  42. committed2excellence says: Nov 23, 2011 10:56 PM

    Well isn’t that cute….

    Tebow is not a Quarterback, a field general, or a game manager.

    He’s a great football player and leader because he works hard and leads by example.

    He’s almost universally respected as a person, although hated by many largely because of the media attention he receives and the fact he uses every opportunity to show that he’s more Christian than Jesus himself…..which is actually a fact since Jesus was reportedly Jewish, but that’s beside the point.

    Tebow will always be able to play in this league but eventually they’ll need a QB who can pass and Tebow will have to become a running back or fullback who makes the occasional wildcat cameo.

    Tim Tebow is NOT Denver’s answer at QB, and the longer the Broncos take to realize that the happier I’ll be, because “Tebow Magic” won’t work against clearly superior teams, which the NFL is full of.

  43. snarkzilla says: Nov 23, 2011 10:59 PM

    >give the kid a shot somewhere else because you clearly don’t want him

    You need to be a Jets fan. Blowing smoke and committing fully to a mediocre QB is their m.o.

  44. bigbeefyd says: Nov 23, 2011 11:00 PM

    I was “very hopeful” that the head cheerleader would date me (ok, sleep with me) in high school. Turns out they don’t go for linebackers if a QB is around. I would love it if Tebow were the guy, but he needs tons of work in the offseason for that to be a possibility.

  45. war27 says: Nov 23, 2011 11:10 PM

    bullcharger says: Nov 23, 2011 9:57 PM

    It’s a great story as long as he’s a winner. If he loses a bunch of games in a row the diehard fans will turn against him in a heartbeat.
    —————

    Rewatch the jet’s game, they already were turning against him in the 3rd quarter. He saved himself with that final drive. Soon it will be 35-3 one day and that final drive wont matter.

  46. gadgetdawg says: Nov 23, 2011 11:11 PM

    Right now Tebow is who they have. At the end of the season the Broncos will have a record to judge by. If the games go downhill and he stinks up the place, Tim will be out. If he wins a bunch and goes somewhere in the playoffs, then he may be starter next year. The worse case scenario for Elway is something in the middle.

    I love this soap opera. . . ummm I mean team😉

  47. profootballgossip says: Nov 23, 2011 11:12 PM

    Remember when Floor-boy told us Tebow is terrible and belonged below Quinn on the depth chart? Remember when Tebow went 4-1 with a 1-4 team? Huh. Imagine that. Funny that the “Tebowmaniacs” know more about football than Mr. Basement Blogger himself.

    Bitter isn’t a good look, chief. Give it up.

  48. war27 says: Nov 23, 2011 11:14 PM

    rexismybff says: Nov 23, 2011 10:09 PM

    This from a guy who begged out of his first game as a pro by halftime, because Jack Lambert had already hit him about 10 times and was drooling blood and spit on him. From a guy who completed fewer than 50 percent of his passes as a rookie.
    Elway – you taught us all what Tebow really needs to be a “franchise qb” – he needs Terrell Davis rushing for 2000 yards and 25 TD’s. Like you had when you turned from a lovable loser into an “alltime great”.

    —————-

    Really? Putting down one of the all time top 10-25 QB’s ever because of Tebow? Elway wasn’t the loeable loser. Elway was a winner his whole career, just blew up in the superbowl a few times.

    Tebow at his 100% best wasn’t in Elways league when Elway was 8 years old playing peewee.

    Pains me to say it, as a Raider fan, Elway was an all time great long before Terrell Davis was a Bronco.

  49. npina111 says: Nov 23, 2011 11:14 PM

    in first 10 seasons Elway only once over 80 rating. It took him 10 years to learn the game. Why doesnt he shut up and let Tebow get at least 10 games?

  50. supersuckers3 says: Nov 23, 2011 11:18 PM

    Tebow is not a NFL QB. Elway knows how it works. Tebow is so bad that if you threw 9 against that offense against the run he couldnt complete 50 percent. Give it time. This isn’t college football.

  51. snarkzilla says: Nov 23, 2011 11:22 PM

    >Why doesnt he shut up and let Tebow get at least 10 games?

    He can’t shut up because there are howling monkeys and their press people swarming him. And Tebow’s halfway to your 10 games.

  52. binkystevens says: Nov 23, 2011 11:25 PM

    Gary busey lookalike

  53. scytherius says: Nov 23, 2011 11:26 PM

    Why on EARTH are some of you comparing Elway to Tebow when Elway played back in the day when you could mug the receiver? the RULES were different you nits. And for every “he had ratings better than Elway” there are about 50 QBs Who didn’t make it rated low as well.

    If you are this desperate to argue he’s so good .. he ain’t.

    The kid is a great athlete, but stop setting him up to fail in the QB position. Let him be one of the games great TEs or FBs.

  54. bennyd720 says: Nov 23, 2011 11:28 PM

    Tebow is a golden calf

  55. mykl954 says: Nov 23, 2011 11:33 PM

    Sounds like a damage control PR specialist has been retained by the club

  56. cleverbob says: Nov 23, 2011 11:37 PM

    Lots of Tebow fans on here seem to be newcomers to the NFL, judging by their disparaging comments against Elway and claims that Tebow will “change the QB position forever”.

    First of all Elway was at the least one of the top 10 quarterbacks of all time, so show some respect. Second, there have been plenty of athletic QB’s before Tebow, many of which at least had a modicum of ability to throw the ball as well. They don’t change football. They ultimately fail. As an Eagles fan it pains me to write that.

    I’m almost embarrassed for the level headed Broncos fans.

  57. tiffpats4eva says: Nov 23, 2011 11:37 PM

    profootballgossip says:
    Nov 23, 2011 11:12 PM
    Remember when Floor-boy told us Tebow is terrible and belonged below Quinn on the depth chart? Remember when Tebow went 4-1 with a 1-4 team? Huh. Imagine that. Funny that the “Tebowmaniacs” know more about football than Mr. Basement Blogger himself.

    Bitter isn’t a good look, chief. Give it up.
    ***************************

    Tebow is the worst QB in the league. The worst.

    Tebowmaniacs don’t know anything about football.

  58. tiffpats4eva says: Nov 23, 2011 11:42 PM

    Tebowmaniacs,

    Is the sky up or down?

  59. docredskin says: Nov 23, 2011 11:42 PM

    And I’m “very hopeful” that the money tree I planted in my back yard yields a bumper crop.

  60. tinopuno says: Nov 23, 2011 11:44 PM

    When I see/hear references to Tebowmaniacs, the question that occurs to me is what portion of this group is composed of people who know little about football and care little about the Broncos but fervently support Tebow solely because of very public espousal of conservative Christian values.

  61. edgerules says: Nov 23, 2011 11:52 PM

    I am amazed that these Tebowmaniacs think they know more about the QB position than a man that is one of the greatest to strap on a helmet. Some consider him the greatest QB ever. Sure, at the end of the day, it IS about winning, but Broncos fans , including the Tebow worshippers have to understand that they have to look at the big picture.

    Tebow is helping the team win, but he is going to EVENTUALLY going to have to throw the ball like a conventional QB (Brady, Big Ben, the Manning Brothers, etc). There is going to be a time when Tebow is going to have to try to bring that team back from a huge deficit. He is going to have to improve his technique and his accuracy.

    The fans insulting Elway are just hurting the team. If I were an agent for any free agent WR, or QB, or potential draft pick, I would advise them to avoid Denver like the plague. These Tebow maniacs are holding the team hostage.

  62. obamablowz says: Nov 23, 2011 11:59 PM

    And I am “very sure Tebow won’t be the answer”

  63. 9ersurf says: Nov 23, 2011 11:59 PM

    Just curious ……. I wonder if John Elway, Hall Of Fame QB, has gotten butt down onto the practice field to help Tebow with becoming an NFL QB? or is he too good to spend any time and won’t lift a finger to help. Has anyone in the media, in Denver asked this question?

  64. ahs2 says: Nov 24, 2011 12:23 AM

    >why say anything when everything that represents less than unequivocal support

    Because the…a-hem, media, forces him to give a quote every time Tebow sneezes!!!

  65. granadafan says: Nov 24, 2011 12:25 AM

    We were at church this week and our pastor was preaching to us about a “famous” person who he thought was irrationally criticized because of his faith and love for the lord. He went on and on about this person and then finally said we should all write to the Denver football team to support Tim Tebow. Unbelievable.

    I won’t get into his political preaching but the whole sermon was just sickening. He and many of the congregation don’t care or know one iota about football, but Tim Tebow was their persecuted savoir. Time to find a new church.

  66. profootballgossip says: Nov 24, 2011 12:28 AM

    Tebow is the worst QB in the league. The worst.

    *****************************************

    You are demonstrably incorrect. He has won 80% of his starts this season, with a team that was previously 1-4.

    Stop playing Madden, go outside and try some real athletics. Winning is all that has ever mattered.

  67. flightcrewbusiness says: Nov 24, 2011 12:42 AM

    Elway had top receivers and top running backs and good coaching. Tebow has none of those. If you aren’t converting on third down why aren’t you questioning the play calling?

  68. clamus68 says: Nov 24, 2011 12:46 AM

    Tebow change the QB position forever? Really? If you are old enough to remember the national media said just about a guy named Randall Cunningham. That guy could run and throw. He actually wasn’t bad but he never quite revolutionized the position. Neither will lil Timmy. He is a wonderful human being, but a mediocre QB.

  69. jerruhjones21 says: Nov 24, 2011 12:50 AM

    Liar, liar – pants on fire…

    But how do you go away from the guy who is winning for his imaginary friend and the cult that is Tebow? Ultimately, the only stat that matters is on the score board so as long as they continue to win, Elway is screwed!

    Poor Mr. Ed…

  70. milehigh85 says: Nov 24, 2011 1:29 AM

    Same ol same ol… You guys sound like a broken record.

  71. blackdonnelly says: Nov 24, 2011 1:41 AM

    I am on the side of “does this really matter?”

    I have to agree – these “grass roots Tebowites” that came out of literally and figuratively nowheres don’t know much about football history. As a Raider fan in hell (Denver) I find it amusing and yet very messed-up they feel the need to dump on Elway. I could never call the guy Hall-worthy, but he was a decent QB who won when he had to with what he had – the 3 Super Bowl losses nonwithstanding. I suppose 2 SB wins gets one a spot in the Hall, and I guess that’s OK. I’m pretty much leaning towards thinking the man knows a lot more about football and how a team should set up and function much better than the folks that choose to dump on Elway here, so all I can say about this story is “decent PR save.”

    I do respect Elway, although in public I’m told he’s somewhat of an arse, but it is what it is. This whole Tebow drama is starting to blow chunkage however – seems there’s more to focus on than some Bible thumper making a name for himself in the NFL.

    Go Raiders!!!!!

  72. Andre's Johnson says: Nov 24, 2011 1:55 AM

    Here are the facts. Tim Tebow is…

    1) a crappy ball thrower.
    2) a powerful ball carrier.
    3) an inspiring leader with a good attitude.

    He’s not particularly fast, but he’s just quick enough to beat linemen and linebackers.

    Why can’t he be a fullback? Or a tight end? Instead of an option quarterback, why can’t he be a wildcat fullback? If he can catch at all, he could play tight end.

    Tebow’s proven he’s athletic enough to be on the field with NFL players. But Tebow’s time is running out as a QB.

    Hell, I’d fully support my team signing him as a special teams beast and experimental offensive skill guy.

  73. blackdonnelly says: Nov 24, 2011 1:59 AM

    edgerules: Your comment is dead on and yet scary – what if the Tebowites are indeed holding Denver hostage? Really – how messed up would THAT be?

  74. milk4000 says: Nov 24, 2011 2:09 AM

    Sweet baby Tebow!

  75. staffordsyear says: Nov 24, 2011 2:23 AM

    I bet John elway is pissed at josh mcdaniels for drafting this guy.

  76. TheWizard says: Nov 24, 2011 2:30 AM

    John needs to shut up about it and let this problem fix itself.

    Their record at the end of the year will tell the tale.

  77. returntoexcellence says: Nov 24, 2011 2:37 AM

    9ersurf says:
    Nov 23, 2011 11:59 PM
    Just curious ……. I wonder if John Elway, Hall Of Fame QB, has gotten butt down onto the practice field to help Tebow with becoming an NFL QB? or is he too good to spend any time and won’t lift a finger to help. Has anyone in the media, in Denver asked this question?
    ___________________________________

    So, Elway who has to manage the entire orginazation and plan for their future should have to take time out of his day to put on the ol’ helmet to teach a guy who is supposedly a quarterback how to throw the freakin’ ball?

    You’re an idiot…

  78. snarkzilla says: Nov 24, 2011 3:28 AM

    I almost feel sorry for Tebow – but then he has brought it on himself with all that proselytizing. At some point a million deluded people who don’t give a sh*t about football but who are high on Jesus will descend on Mile High, the Tebow shrine, as long as the Broncos keep him.

    If people leave him and the Broncos alone he actually could develop into a well rounded, formidable QB. Possibly. But the hassle may end up being too much for the organization and too much for Tebow at some point, in which case the Broncos will obviously be in the clutches of Satan. What a mess.

  79. screwuhowardschultz says: Nov 24, 2011 4:14 AM

    I am so tired of this Tebow bashing…..I am a Christian and I understand why there is so much negative talk towards him but seriously STOP IT!!! Yeah, I wouldn’t be as vocal as Tebow unless I beat the Packers or the Patriots or won the Super Bowl but hey…the man is passionate! What can’t be argued is the man is a winner…he certainly isn’t your prototypicle NFL QB but he is willing to work hard and do what he can to win. I believe that is the definition of a leader. Russell, Leaf, Leinart….these guys didn’t succeed because of lack of talent!!! They didn’t succeed because they lack the motivation to improve – to win – to work hard! If I have to choose between talent and a hard worker, I will choose the hard worker every time…..

  80. cowhawkfan says: Nov 24, 2011 5:30 AM

    U people are delusional!! And I’m not talking about the so called “Tebowmaniacs”. It’s all the Tebow haters that are delusional. There are carry few, if any, people who have said Tebow is the answer. All the so called Tebowmaniacs have said is “give the guy a champs”. It’s the rest of you who have already determined he’s not the answer. You are the same people who said he’d “never win a game in the NFL”. Then, he did and it was, “he’ll never win another game in the NFL”. And when he did it was, “he’ll never beat a good team in the NFL, the Jets will stomp him.” and he won again. Now it’s, he’ll never beat a team with a good offense and as soon as he gets 21 points behind he’s done”. Well, that’s Genius, cause 98% of teams who are 21 points behind lose!!! That’s true even when Brady or Manning are the QB. If you make enough predictions, you’ll be right. I’ve said at the beginning of each year, the Seahawks will not win the Super Bowl this year”. How smart am I after 25 years? Tebow has won everywhere he’s played…EVERYWHERE INCLUDES THE NFL…so far!! I don’t think it can last, but give him a chance!!’

  81. marcus158 says: Nov 24, 2011 5:57 AM

    Tebow is a gimmick who can run better than he can throw. Even other “running QBs” like Young, Vick, and Newton are better than him.

    They won’t win anything in the long run with him at QB. Sooner or later the NFL defenses will wise up to the option crap the Broncos run and what will happen then since he can’t throw?

    Elway is just trying to shut those Tebow fans who jumped on his back a few days ago.

  82. promickey says: Nov 24, 2011 6:06 AM

    More media for Tim Tebow! Tebow is being given a chance to perform and Tebow fans have to thank the Gods for a rather easy schedule. The only sure playoff contender remaining is New England. So Tim has a great chance to perform and learn to be a quarterback in the NFL. The only guy that should be complaining is Brady Quinn.

  83. stanklepoot says: Nov 24, 2011 6:38 AM

    phelbin says: Nov 23, 2011 10:19 PM

    You gotta feel bad for Elway. Alienate a very vocal fanbase or play bad football. He can’t win either way.
    _____________________
    Yes he can. He can do the same thing you do to any overly loud but clueless group of fans…ignore them. Unless Tim “the miracle” Tebow finds a way to turn his wobbly, inaccurate passes into accurate spirals, draft one of the QBs from what looks to be a relatively QB rich draft class and trade or release Tebow. They can then resign Quinn on the cheap to remain their backup.

    The key is, if you’re going to move on from Tebow, you have to cut ties completely. You can’t bring in a new guy and keep Tebow on the roster. You’d be making an undeserved target out of the new guy. No, cut ties completely and quickly. Let the Tebowites whine and scream their lungs out until they tire themselves out and they’ll eventually calm down and remember they’re supposed to be Broncos fans. If they don’t, then they were never Broncos fans to begin with. Who knows, if the new staff drafts well, and the fans are reminded what real QB play looks like, most of the fans will end up saying “Tim who?”. That’s how things work in the NFL. Fans can be loud and obnoxious at times, but nothing shuts them up and makes them cheer like success. Remember how upset 49ers fans were when they found out Harbaugh was not only keeping Alex Smith, but starting him? Quite a few were already saying that Harbaugh was apparently overrated, and that their team was going to suck again. Don’t hear too much complaining anymore though.

    Take a look at the numbers (I know, too close to science I guess for the Tebow faithful), this offense is not producing. With the exception of the Raiders game where the Broncos ran all over the opposing defense (when the Raiders’ offense gave up 6 picks) yards gained, first downs, and points are all horrible. The winning streak happens to coincide with the defense kicking into high gear. It’s been the defense and special teams that are keeping the Broncos in these games. The Broncos defense is pretty good, but this simply can’t last. They’ve been fortunate in their matchups lately. The Raiders after they lost Campbell and had to go with Boller and Palmer (who had been sitting at home a week ago). The Chiefs after they had begun to fall apart after a series of costly injuries. The Jets who were down to their 3rd and 4th string RBs and Sanchez was playing double agent. The one good, healthy team they faced (the Lions) humiliated them.

    So, the only way the Broncos can win with Tebow is if their defense is able to completely shut down every opposing offense they face. That simply isn’t a strategy you want to live or die by. The sad part is that the Broncos upcoming schedule is so pathetically weak that some people might be tricked into thinking it’s a viable option. With the exception of the Pats, every team they face has real questions. The Chargers seem intent on shooting themselves in the foot, the Vikings aren’t good this year, the Bears are without Cutler, and the Chiefs have lost their starting RB, TE, and now QB. Then again, that last one could be a fun game. I’d love to see Orton get a little revenge. The Broncos front office did right by him, but the fans were vicious long before the losses piled up.

  84. cleverbob says: Nov 24, 2011 6:42 AM

    Vince Young won his first 6 starts as a rookie. Change the QB position as we know it!

  85. jvkaimak says: Nov 24, 2011 6:43 AM

    He’s a winner, and as long as he wins he’s your guy. If you don’t want him trade him to the Skins, we’ll take him.

  86. stanklepoot says: Nov 24, 2011 6:48 AM

    earthtopft says: Nov 23, 2011 10:07 PM

    Elway looks presidential in that shot. Too bad he acts janitorial when he opens his mouth.
    _______________
    All depends on how you mean that. If you mean it as a janitor is much more likely to give an honest answer than someone running for President, then you’re probably right. Actually, I take that back. Elway’s earlier comment was honest. This one is simply polite, but meaningless…thereby putting him back in the appearing Presidential category.

  87. stanklepoot says: Nov 24, 2011 7:07 AM

    profootballgossip says: Nov 23, 2011 11:12 PM

    Remember when Floor-boy told us Tebow is terrible and belonged below Quinn on the depth chart? Remember when Tebow went 4-1 with a 1-4 team? Huh. Imagine that. Funny that the “Tebowmaniacs” know more about football than Mr. Basement Blogger himself.

    Bitter isn’t a good look, chief. Give it up.
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    Remember when Tebow stunk up the field, went 3/13 in 3rd down attempts, went 3 in out 8 times in a row, started out in his opponents’ territory 5 times and managed to put up a whole 3 points, and need the defense to not only shut down the opposing offense but score a TD just to keep the Broncos in the game against a team with a bad QB and who were stuck playing their 3rd and 4th string RBs? Shouldn’t be too hard as it wasn’t all that long ago. My apologies. Tebowmaniacs don’t let objective reality alter their arguments. Everything good that happens for the Broncos is completely due to Tebow, and everything bad that happens is because his coach is out to get him. This whole persecution complex is beyond ridiculous. How can Tebow be persecuted for being a Christian when this country is overwhelmingly Christian? All those Tebowmaniancs might want to stop and think that something else might be an issue…like the fact that he can’t play QB. At best he’s a wildcat HB.

  88. stanklepoot says: Nov 24, 2011 7:21 AM

    profootballgossip says: Nov 24, 2011 12:28 AM

    Tebow is the worst QB in the league. The worst.

    *****************************************

    You are demonstrably incorrect. He has won 80% of his starts this season, with a team that was previously 1-4.

    Stop playing Madden, go outside and try some real athletics. Winning is all that has ever mattered.
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    and how exactly has Tebow won? I thought it was the Broncos winning those games myself, and if you’re going to try to give some more credit than others, then it’s clearly the defense that deserves it.

    You’re right about one thing, however, winning is what matters. You simply left out an important aspect of winning. Much like in a scientific experiment, you want it to be reliably repeatable. The only way you can consistently win games with such horrible offensive production is to keep playing bad or severely beat up teams. Even then, you need a really good defense and a bit of luck. All of that has fallen into place for the Broncos lately (with the exception of the butt whipping they received from the lions), but it’s not exactly a strategy you want to stick your team with.

  89. mikeminnc says: Nov 24, 2011 7:30 AM

    Any fans of the movie “Major League” should make time to savor this season….it’s probably the most amusing example of life imitating art that you will ever see.

  90. faulkana says: Nov 24, 2011 7:47 AM

    Fastest 7-step drop of Elway’s career.

  91. haywoodjablomee says: Nov 24, 2011 7:57 AM

    Someone mentioned earlier that Elways not an idiot. I beg to differ.

  92. prmpft says: Nov 24, 2011 8:08 AM

    usually only defensive backs backpeddle that much

  93. bucforever says: Nov 24, 2011 8:36 AM

    Gator fan here. As A Gator Tim always showed great determination and a will to win that over shadowed his lack of skill. If his talent was as big as his heart is for the Game, he could be as good as Brady or Rodgers. Joe Montana once said he loved the Game so much that he would have played for free. I believe that Tim Tebow would agree.

  94. ivedoneyourwife says: Nov 24, 2011 8:52 AM

    Hey Elway…Gary Busey called. He wants his teeth back!

  95. ruckthefaiders says: Nov 24, 2011 8:54 AM

    bennyd720 says:
    Nov 23, 2011 11:28 PM
    Tebow is a golden calf

    bennyd is an ungolden bag of d >rhymes with touch

    mommy says come upstairs and eat dindin now and let the big people play on the puter.

  96. Dirty D Fo says: Nov 24, 2011 9:20 AM

    I’m not religious; that being said, I like Tebow’s football Passion. He is a winner… Who says you have to be a great passer?… Vick has been pulling a smokescreen over everyone’s eyes since day 1. By the way, please… I beg of you… No more “Tebowmaniacs” posts… 96% of you used that terminology. Real original.

  97. speedlimit41 says: Nov 24, 2011 9:54 AM

    Jesus I’m sick of this story.

  98. ratbastardshanahandjob says: Nov 24, 2011 10:07 AM

    Instead of calling him horse-face. Elway would prefer the name “Pinocchio”……

    Elway knows Saint Timmy Rah Rah isn’t the answer. He will try and draft a real franchise QB…….

  99. akulabug says: Nov 24, 2011 10:08 AM

    Translate:

    Every damn win we are farther away from drafting a quarterback this April that can play.

  100. 2blackaces says: Nov 24, 2011 10:38 AM

    The thing to remember is that Tebow has only had what 7 career starts. The Tebow haters are expecting a completed project when its not really a fair expectation of him. If he gets the coaching and help he needs to develop he will succeed and become a complete QB.

  101. rtookey says: Nov 24, 2011 10:41 AM

    I wish ONCCCEEEE that an employee of any sports franchise would speak his mind and stand by it… Not come out and “clear up what he actually meant” 2 days later…

    Tebow cant throw Elway, we know.

    People like to drink at football tailgates Brady, we know…

    and on and on.

    Maybe one day this world can go a hour without taking personal offense to something that doesnt even matter.

  102. bronco1st says: Nov 24, 2011 11:07 AM

    Who cares about what the VP says, the Bronco’s owner, Pat Bowlen said this after Tebow led a 95 yard TD drive with about 5 minutes left to win the game last week over the Jets;

    “He’s a quarterback, and believe me he’s going to learn, I believe he’ll be a great one. Better keep him around.”

  103. ratbastardshanahandjob says: Nov 24, 2011 11:27 AM

    Dear Mr Bowlen

    Mr. John Elway is trying to undermine and destroy your organization.

    Contrary to what he thinks. Tim Tebow is not only a great Christian. He is a great HOF calibre QB. As Al Davis would have said “Tim is a great playaaa. Get ovah it”. Instead of drafting a QB with the 1st pick in the 2012 draft (maby trading future 1st round picks to move up). We think you should sign Tebow to a 10 year 200 million $$ contract extension.

    Sincerely,
    Mark Davis
    Clark Hunt
    Alex Spanos
    all other 28 NFL owners

  104. Derty Ernie says: Nov 24, 2011 11:27 AM

    What do you want him to do trash the guy in the middle of the season? Stupid he ain’t.

    He knows what he’s got and thats a QB that will not lead a team to the superbowl. No other reason to play the game. Its not for show its to reach the SB.

    Tebow is a convenience right now but his future with the team is limited. My take, Tebow will return to Miami one of these days soon via trade.

  105. stanklepoot says: Nov 24, 2011 3:54 PM

    2blackaces says: Nov 24, 2011 10:38 AM

    The thing to remember is that Tebow has only had what 7 career starts. The Tebow haters are expecting a completed project when its not really a fair expectation of him. If he gets the coaching and help he needs to develop he will succeed and become a complete QB.
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    Not expecting perfection by a long shot, but something that approaches competent passing would be nice. The guy faces defenses that sell out against the run, the most pass friendly defensive schemes around, and he’s a low 40’s passer. As for coaching, you seem to be forgetting the almost obsessive amount of coaching he got from the very beginning from McDaniels and his QB coach brother. At the end of the day, Tebow has to be able to make those passes. It’s the most important part of his job. It’s not an insult to say he can’t do it. So far, it’s a fact. Even worse, there’s been no improvement since he entered the league.

  106. 2blackaces says: Nov 24, 2011 10:16 PM

    I’m not suggesting Tebow is a great passer yet by all means. He is still consistently missing what should be an easy pass for most NFL QB’s. With that said, his stats compared to one Michael Vick through their first 7 starts are actually well better.(Per NFL.com if you wanna check)

    Vick-100-177, 1167 yards, 5 Passing TD’s, 3 INT’s, 418 Rushing Yds, 4 lost fumbles.

    Tebow-85-178, 1187 yards, 10 Passing TD’s, 4INT’s, 480 Rushing Yds, 2 lost fumbles.

    Both are 4-3(W-L record) but Tebow has double the passing TD’s, 1 less turnover and more rushing yards need I say more?

  107. hugoschtiglets says: Nov 25, 2011 5:52 AM

    tebow is a turd of a qb, no matter how much you polish it, it will still be a turd.

  108. hugoschtiglets says: Nov 25, 2011 5:55 AM

    draft andrew luck at all costs, end the tebow nonsense.. qb is most important as we are clearly seeing with the colts, we can fill other needs along the way.

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