Comments on: Orton may try to discourage Chiefs from claiming him

By: ihatesocal

ihatesocal — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:06:23 +0000

@trollhammer20

Have fun behind the 49ers for the next ten years.

By: kevpft

kevpft — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:05:04 +0000

Okay, all you wiseguys bagging on Orton, a question:

If you had any say in the matter, how many of you would choose to play for the Chiefs over the Bears?

Yeah, I think that just about takes care of that.

By: rarson

rarson — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:52:32 +0000

The decision to pass on Orton has nothing to do with “Suck for Luck”, primarily because nobody (including the Colts) is stupid enough to purposefully suck for a chance to use a first-round pick on a guy that might not even enter the draft next year and could choose to play for a different team even IF he did.

The Colts are passing on Orton because HE sucks. Or at least he has with Denver thus far this year. If he can’t win with Denver (and Tebow can), what makes anyone think that it’s a sane idea for Indianapolis to make a move for him?

Also, I agree with stoney18, it’s gotta suck playing for a nutjob like Haley.

By: Wilie Beamon

Wilie Beamon — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:17:06 +0000

I dont buy it Claytons claims make no sense . Wouldnt the Chiefs be able to at least talk to his agent and gauge his interest anyway ?

Why would he have to put the word out and why would he call Clayton to do it ?

By: stoney18

stoney18 — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:16:53 +0000

Yoiks! Can you imagine playing for Haley??

By: rabidbillsfan

rabidbillsfan — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:50:35 +0000

So please tell me how any teams GM would explain this to the owner. We are going to claim a QB so he doesn’t make it to a competeing team, even though we have a starting QB, and then we have to pay him $2.5 Mil. Yea, that should go over real well…

By: trollhammer20

trollhammer20 — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:45:29 +0000

cowhawkfan:

I’m dead serious. To get Orton before the season, we’d have had to offer a trade package and pay his enormous salary. Basically, we would have had to commit the long-term fortunes of our franchise to a guy who couldn’t beat out Tim Tebow.

We got Jackson at a net cost of zero draft picks, and four million a year, which is a lot compared to what I make, but pretty cheap for a QB who’s getting a two-year look.

Guess you’re a Carroll hater, but take a look at the defense he and Schneider are putting together and tell me he doesn’t have an eye for talent, or truly want to win.

By: mycrackie

mycrackie — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:43:35 +0000

Tebow is a turd, wait till he meets a Hollywood chick and takes him for a ride!!!!!

By: dublindemonszfl

dublindemonszfl — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:18:55 +0000

Bears offense is completely different since he was traded, he could not come in and start. He’ll be a backup, where ever he ends up then a FA. Why is Denver interested in helping any other team? Hey Elway “c’mon man”

By: bullpuppy552

bullpuppy552 — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:17:58 +0000

Orton is a mere mediocre QB when he’s at his best. He needs to be holding a clipboard with some bottom feeder team. That’s all he’s worth.

By: cowhawkfan

cowhawkfan — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:12:08 +0000

@Trollhammer…r u kidding? I’d take Orton, as bad as he is, over Jacked Up Jackson any day. Heck, I’d take pretty much any sQB in the league before Jackson. Until Carroll and the GM are gone we Seattle fans are screwed!!!

By: snarkzilla

snarkzilla — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:11:53 +0000

Is it just me? Or does anybody else find it funny to read derogatory comments from people sitting at computers about a guy who can opt into $2.5 million for playing a game?

By: capslockkey

capslockkey — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:06:56 +0000

Presumably Chicago still has an offense he could run, anybody else would be wasting money to claim him.Eh no. Chicago's offense is completely different than when he was there.

By: edavidberg

edavidberg — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:05:54 +0000

Orton’s threat is not an empty one. He will be behind as far as the offense goes, and it could take a couple weeks for him to learn enough to play. If he doesn’t want to cooperate he would be worthless. He could also stall and report at a later date forcing them to pay him and drop a player but then not being ready to play.

Also . . . roster spots are valuable in the NFL. If Detroit signs Orton they need to cut somebody. I don’t think they’re going to cut Shaun Hill or Drew Stanton, and I don’t think they’re going to carry 4 QBs.

As a Bears fan I’m concerned KC is going to claim him, and I’m concerned the Texans may try, but aside from those two teams it doesn’t make sense for anyone else to. If you already suck and aren’t making the playoffs, and he doesn’t want to play for you, why bother, just potentially sign him in the off season.

By: august589

august589 — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:04:20 +0000

What’s he trying to do undermine his career the same way he blew up the potential trade to Miami in August? The only way he makes it to the Bears is if no one else claims him. I can see at least four teams claiming him–or at least thinking seriously about it. Bears won’t get him; Chiefs might. Shoot, could be the Redskins where he can renew his acquaintance with Rex Grossman.

By: phinfan

phinfan — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:00:24 +0000

This would be interesting if a team claims him just to stab another team from making the deal. Good teams that lost their starting QB that were playoff bound example: Houston, Chicago. If teams like Titans, or Detriot could claim him to shore up the chance Either of those teams make more wins using Orton to shore up a wildcard slot. It would be beneficial – I’d do the deal in a heartbeat just to screw other teams. There are plenty of teams on that list… not just Detriot and Titans. I’m only using those examples of WC possibilities. Other teams could use him that are on the fence like Jets/Bills – KC is only 2 wins off of .500 – this can get hairy… I’d laugh if someone in the NFC blocks him from going to Chicago.

By: dukemarc

dukemarc — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:53:40 +0000

Ok, so if he doesn’t report then the Chiefs don’t pay him and he sits out until he decides to report. Do the Chiefs have to leave a roster spot open while they wait?

By: trollhammer20

trollhammer20 — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:53:11 +0000

As a Seahawks fan, I recall Orton’s name being kicked around as someone we might trade for this past offseason.

Tavaris Jackson keeps looking better and better.

By: klunge

klunge — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:49:38 +0000

I’m all for the Leos claiming him to spite the Bears, but for one I don’t think they have cap room this season even for 2.5M, and they’d have to cut a depth player at another position to fit him in. No thanks, let some team that actually needs a QB (except Chicago) get him. And I say that truthfully less out of spite for the Bears and more out of wanting to see Orton suffer for trying to force his way past the rules to get to a certain team. Principles, man…get those, they will get you through life successfully.

By: blogatron2000

blogatron2000 — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:48:29 +0000

It is ridiculous the way people believe everything spouted by these talking heads. Everything is media speculation at this point. How about just not buying into it? That is an option, you know…

If Orton and his agent actually sought his release while banking that he would slide all the way to the Bears on the waiver wire, they are idiots. They have to reasonably expect 1 of the 29 teams above the Bears to make a claim.

He’s not a free agent so he can’t pick and choose where he goes. Sitting out the rest of the season and foregoing the salary would be an incredibly bad career move.

Orton wants to play and prove he deserves to play so he’s going to report to whoever claims him.

By: ffjesus

ffjesus — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:46:08 +0000

W.W.T.D.

By: realdeal12

realdeal12 — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:42:54 +0000

hey Kyle you are one little fishie in a BIG pond. You don’t make the rules.
If a team claims him he should be forced to report. I don’t like that players think they have all this power when the teams are the ones who write the checks.

By: wrossi81

wrossi81 — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:42:03 +0000

You’re not going to be able to work a new starting quarterback into a season that’s already circling the drain in KC, much less one that is lost beyond all hope in Indy, and Orton is an overpriced backup for 6 weeks. Presumably Chicago still has an offense he could run, anybody else would be wasting money to claim him.

By: duhbears

duhbears — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:41:48 +0000

Orton would not be starting for DaaBears. He would be the backup.

By: uscthom78

uscthom78 — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:38:22 +0000

beggars can’t be choosers.

By: tarquinfintimlinbin

tarquinfintimlinbin — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:37:17 +0000

As a Chiefs fan, I don’t want him. But now… I hope KC claims him so he can sit and cry for the rest of the season.

By: screenpass

screenpass — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:35:20 +0000

I love the idea that KYLE ORTON would think he has accomplished enough in this league to throw out a “I won’t report” threat.

Do neck beards cut off circulation over time?

By: rexismybff

rexismybff — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:33:52 +0000

Suddenly I find myself hoping he gets his wish, so we can all watch him flame out and flush the Bears’ playoff hopes down the drain.

If he’s going to act like this, he deserves his deer-in-the-headlights moment of abject failure.

By: dasmol

dasmol — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:33:37 +0000

How’s he going to discourage them, show them his game film?

By: warvette

warvette — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:27:44 +0000

isn’t this collusion?