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Isa Abdul-Quddus lays out Hakeem Nicks

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The second half of Monday Night Football got started with a hard hit that will be the subject of a lot of Tuesday morning discussions in NFL circles.

As the Giants’ Hakeem Nicks reached out to catch a pass over the middle from Eli Manning, Saints rookie defensive back Isa Abdul-Quddus delivered a hard hit that sent Nicks crumpling to the ground and sent flags flying, as Abdul-Quddus was called for a personal foul for a hit on a defenseless receiver.

After the hit Abdul-Quddus celebrated and was congratulated by teammates, and the Saints clearly thought it was a good hit. The crowd in New Orleans loudly booed the referee when the call was announced, and booed even louder when replays of the hit were shown in the stadium. ESPN’s Jon Gruden said he thought the penalty was the wrong call.

But while it’s true that Abdul-Quddus appeared to be trying to lead with his shoulder, their helmets did make contact, and Nicks was a defenseless receiver. The Saints and the crowd in New Orleans may not have liked it, but that’s a call NFL officials are going to make.

Nicks returned to the field on the Giants’ next offensive possession.

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  1. skins23 says: Nov 28, 2011 10:49 PM

    It was a BS call, a perfectly clean hit.

    Of course it went in the Giants favor.

    Then Jacobs scores, taunts and excessively celebrates right in front of the ref, and no flag for that.

    Must be nice to be the league favorites.

  2. warrenmoon says: Nov 28, 2011 10:51 PM

    Jack Tatum would have been completely useless in the modern NFL… sad

  3. kane337 says: Nov 28, 2011 10:52 PM

    It was the correct call. The Saints DB’s should be ashamed of themselves. Would they want people celebrating around them if they were the one’s on the ground in pain?

  4. nflfollower says: Nov 28, 2011 10:52 PM

    you can add “fans around the country” to the list of people who didn’t like it.

    Most of us would like to have back the NFL we grew up watching.

  5. messageboard2 says: Nov 28, 2011 10:52 PM

    The Saints were leading 21-3 at the time of the hit. Yeah NY scored a td, but if the hit keeps Nicks out the rest of the game the Saints will take the trade off.

  6. kane337 says: Nov 28, 2011 10:53 PM

    Clear helmet to helmet hit.

    http://twitpic.com/7ley6u

  7. messageboard2 says: Nov 28, 2011 10:53 PM

    spoke too soon Nicks is back well know the hit was pointless.

  8. jordan013091 says: Nov 28, 2011 10:54 PM

    He better call Goodell tomorrow and apologize….

  9. eddddddd says: Nov 28, 2011 10:55 PM

    What does the NFL want DBs to do, let the receiver catch the ball and take two steps before he can be hit?

  10. david7590 says: Nov 28, 2011 10:55 PM

    The collapse continues.

  11. heavythumb says: Nov 28, 2011 10:56 PM

    yet minutes later Nicks is back on the field.

    Try and tell me he didn’t have a concussion. He couldn’t even stand up.

  12. andymc58 says: Nov 28, 2011 10:58 PM

    Yep, he’s supposed to completely dodge him because he was “defenseless”, and let him score. These rules may sound good to the suits making them, but they don’t translate to the field.

  13. skins23 says: Nov 28, 2011 11:00 PM

    kane337 says:
    Nov 28, 2011 10:53 PM
    Clear helmet to helmet hit.

    Shutup, pu**y. Go watch some tennis if you don’t like the contact.

    The penalty wasn’t on excessive celebration, it was thrown a split second after the hit occurred.

    And he didn’t LEAD with the helmet. He lead with his shoulder and extended the arm.

    EVERY SINGLE TACKLE in the NFL is going to involve SOME SORT of helmet contact. Its unavoidable. You can’t tackle someone with the upper body without your helmet touching them.

  14. kane337 says: Nov 28, 2011 11:01 PM

    How about tackle the opponent properly instead of launching to intentially hurt or injure another player.

  15. norcalchief says: Nov 28, 2011 11:02 PM

    What is the NFL approved reaction for a defensive back to take in this scenario? Wait for the receiver to catch the first down and then attempt the tackle post-catch? I get the helmet-to-helmet stuff had to go, but now what?

    The game is too fast to ask these part-time refs to make the split-second decision on what is and isn’t legal. It’s clear to everyone watching that they’re just throwing the flag on hard hits and letting the league office sort it all out postgame. (Same thing with hits on the QB…”Welp fellas; that looked like it hurt, erego; it must be illegal”).

    I haven’t been one of these “Goodell is ruining my game” guys, but I may have started sipping the koolaid.

  16. linvillegorge says: Nov 28, 2011 11:04 PM

    Even as a UNC fan I have to admit that wasn’t a penalty. But, Eli is trying to get Nicks killed tonight. That was the 3rd or 4th time tonight he’s led him right into a big hit.

  17. rmc1995 says: Nov 28, 2011 11:04 PM

    Ronnie Lott wants know why he cut the top of a finger off for a league that has become squeamish of receivers getting tackled.

  18. realitypolice says: Nov 28, 2011 11:05 PM

    I was glad to see this article.

    Now, the next time someone asks me “who the hell is Isa Abdul-Quddus?”, I can say “that’s the guy who laid out Hakeem Nicks”.

  19. 6250claimer says: Nov 28, 2011 11:07 PM

    Night Train Lane would have drawn a flag on 90% of his tackles under today’s sissie rules. Cripes, it takes a lawyer to understand the definition of a freaking catch nowadays for cryin’ out loud.

    Now get off my lawn and pull your pants up, son.

  20. realitypolice says: Nov 28, 2011 11:07 PM

    warrenmoon says:
    Nov 28, 2011 10:51 PM
    Jack Tatum would have been completely useless in the modern NFL… sad
    ======================

    Yes, it’s very sad that a guy who was openly proud of putting a guy in a wheel chair would have a hard time adjusting to the league today.

    Tragic.

  21. jumpinjoebuck says: Nov 28, 2011 11:07 PM

    If Nicks played for the Steelers there would be three stories up right now about how they disregard concussions.

  22. rashardmendenballs says: Nov 28, 2011 11:07 PM

    That was one Awful call!!!

    That was a clean hit in my book; nicks can thank Manning for leading him into an on coming freight train.

    I AM TIRED OF THIS “MOMMY/HELICOPTER DAD” BRAND OF THE NFL. I WANT THE OLD NFL BACK.

  23. miamidolphins1 says: Nov 28, 2011 11:08 PM

    thank you goodell for taking the element of football out of the game. you are the worst commisioner the league has seen.

    why dont we just make it 2 hand touch while we are at it.

  24. mwill2 says: Nov 28, 2011 11:09 PM

    kane337 says: Nov 28, 2011 10:52 PM

    It was the correct call. The Saints DB’s should be ashamed of themselves. Would they want people celebrating around them if they were the one’s on the ground in pain?

    ——

    Exactly. A guy takes a shot in the helmet, is laying on the ground, and the Saints are celebrating. If the Lions did the same thing, the PFT article would have used the word “dirty” at least three times.

  25. newagerocker says: Nov 28, 2011 11:10 PM

    The excessive celebrations are really taking away from the game. It was a good hit, it’s what the fans want to see, but running around like an idiot afterwards like you just cured cancer is ridiculous, especially when the player is still on the ground.

  26. dkeyser says: Nov 28, 2011 11:17 PM

    Helmet to Helmet?? Since when did players start wearing their helmets on their elbows?? Quddus hit Nicks in the damn arm.. His helmet never came above Nicks’ shoulder

  27. someidiotfromouthereintheprojects says: Nov 28, 2011 11:17 PM

    roman harper is still in the nfl? jesus.

  28. johntonioholmes says: Nov 28, 2011 11:18 PM

    That hit highlights the impossibility of the rules.

    It’s impossible to make a properly formed tackle in the NFL because the NFL rules don’t allow for the fact that the tackler has a head.

    Also, what’s the over-under on how many stories PFT will post about how the Giants let Nicks back into the game? Or do they only write about stories concerning the semantics of concussions and concussion-like symptoms?

  29. bleed4philly says: Nov 28, 2011 11:20 PM

    That was a Gregg Williams “remember me” shot against a Manning.

  30. ahs2 says: Nov 28, 2011 11:21 PM

    cracks me up how the majority whine for the old days and Goodell’s too strict, yet they have been whining about Suh for the last year and a half…hypocrites!!

  31. phucoff says: Nov 28, 2011 11:26 PM

    Mr Roger is/has ruined our professional football.

  32. skins23 says: Nov 28, 2011 11:26 PM

    THAT ONE by Kenny Phillips is LEADING with the helmet, so that was the correct call.

  33. axespray says: Nov 28, 2011 11:27 PM

    oh man, that hit on Jimmy Graham was clean!

    that was just a hard hit!

    Freaking saints, must be awesome being league favorites…. ka-durrh!

  34. somethinsbruin says: Nov 28, 2011 11:31 PM

    Jimmy Graham just got laid out too, but it looked like he at least established himself as a runner… of course the crowd was up in arms. Just Saints fans outing themselves a bunch of floaters!

  35. axespray says: Nov 28, 2011 11:31 PM

    you didn’t see giants players jumping around, high fiving after laying out jimmy graham….

    just saying

  36. bcar1023 says: Nov 28, 2011 11:37 PM

    Please stop with the “some random old timer woulda” statements. The NFL also didn’t require helmets and had the goalposts at the front of the endzone. Ray Lewis must be a pu$$y because he wears a helmet huh? Blah blah blah Dick Butkis ate glass and pissed napalm. Lol. Y’all sound like my grandpa.

  37. db105 says: Nov 28, 2011 11:37 PM

    The rule of hit on a “defenseless” receiver is a joke. I’m getting closer to not watching the NFL.

  38. skins23 says: Nov 28, 2011 11:40 PM

    LOL make that TWO BS calls for the pu**y Giants. That last one was just pathetic.

  39. goawayeverybody says: Nov 28, 2011 11:47 PM

    What is football? I don’t even recognize football anymore. You can’t hit anyone. No, I take that back! You can’t touch anyone! Saints got flagged three times for unnecessary roughness tonight and two of those were legal, if not all three. Ridiculous!

  40. Reggie's Bush says: Nov 28, 2011 11:51 PM

    NFL is soft. Good hit, just like the hit on Graham was.

    Why not send a receiver up the middle every play and if he doesn’t catch it he will get hit too hard and draw a flag. Smh

  41. rea1talk says: Nov 28, 2011 11:57 PM

    funny how everyone is still calling the NFL a sissy league now and want the old style back and are calling out SUH FOR BEIN A BEAST…..when will ppl understand the term hypocrisy….. this is wat makes American ppl so damn sad…its a disgrace…..(SHUT UP!)

  42. fooseballfan says: Nov 29, 2011 12:00 AM

    It was clean. No flag needed it was a football play. Same with Philips hit on Graham. They were basically the same. Graham looked worse because he was already being tackled from behind. I understand player safety, but the league needs to realize they’re football players. They signed up for it. Let the men play.

  43. pravin68 says: Nov 29, 2011 12:04 AM

    I think the call was wrong. But the Saints DBs were jackasses celebrating thta way. I was not in favor of these calls going to replay. But I think refs need to ask for replay help on borderline calls because they have shown beyond a doubt that they get these calls more often than not. A replay doesnt have to take 4 minutes. Just empower a TV ref to make quick overrules.

  44. cursedvikingfan says: Nov 29, 2011 12:08 AM

    I didn’t see the hit, really don’t care. What I want to know is when will all the people stop clamoring for the “old” NFL? This isn’t the “old” NFL. So friggin’ get over it. Players are twice as big and twice as fast as they were back in the ’70′s and ’80′s. I do agree partly that these rules have lead to some pretty ticky-tack calls nowadays. Really though, get it through your thick skulls and realize the days of old are OVER. If you don’t like it, go watch the NBA.

  45. bkostela says: Nov 29, 2011 12:10 AM

    kenny phillips did the same thing to jimmy graham later in the game and it drew a flag as well. at least there is consistency with the calls.

  46. dladd79 says: Nov 29, 2011 12:11 AM

    It was a violent hit but very legal. However when I seen the hit I knew that a flag was coming cause to todays NFL standards even when your QB leads you into a big hit, your most likely gonna get a free 15.

    I can probably in the soon to be future see offensive coordinators calling a leave him out to dry play for a must 1st down situation. These soft rules are ruining the game. I was watching lingerie league football some time ago and those women were taking harder hits without flags being called.

    Pls let football players play football.

  47. gcsuk says: Nov 29, 2011 12:16 AM

    So Saints fans had a problem with the flag for the hit on Nicks, but were absolutely fine with the flag that Phillips got for the hit on Graham? Nice double standard.

    Both hits deserved the flags they got. While the defender may not mean to lead with the helmet, it happened, and it WILL get called every time.

  48. pravin68 says: Nov 29, 2011 12:17 AM

    When I think about it, even if Saints didnt get penalized for the hit, I would have flagged them for the taunting.

  49. icancountcanyou says: Nov 29, 2011 12:22 AM

    mwill2 says:
    Nov 28, 2011 11:09 PM
    kane337 says: Nov 28, 2011 10:52 PM

    It was the correct call. The Saints DB’s should be ashamed of themselves. Would they want people celebrating around them if they were the one’s on the ground in pain?

    ——

    Exactly. A guy takes a shot in the helmet, is laying on the ground, and the Saints are celebrating. If the Lions did the same thing, the PFT article would have used the word “dirty” at least three times.

    ——

    True, but the Lions would have lost and continued an epic collapse back to the bottom of the league where they belong.

  50. TurdSandwich says: Nov 29, 2011 12:23 AM

    Ford a bunch of folks wanting things to be rough n tuff I sure hear a lot of whining…

  51. andymc58 says: Nov 29, 2011 12:30 AM

    Roman Harper has only been in the league like 5 years. He was just gray at 24.

  52. sanjose61 says: Nov 29, 2011 12:31 AM

    The hit didn’t bother me but I wasn’t real crazy about the DB prancing about in celebration.

    It’s one thing to do your job as a professional (separating the opponent from the ball) but is it necessary to gleefully prance around while someone is laying on the field?

  53. skins23 says: Nov 29, 2011 12:33 AM

    The Kenny Phillips one was in an entirely different league than the hit on Nicks.

    Phillips lead with the helmet TO the helmet.

    Quddus lead with his shoulder to the body.

  54. gassiusclay says: Nov 29, 2011 12:38 AM

    Crap call…very clean, the helmet to helmet was incidental. NFL: please explain to us and your players exactly how you want D’s to hit a receiver in this situation! if they don’t hit them, the receiver will catch the ball. If they are running as fast as possible to get to the play, how do they slow down contact? I mean, Abdul-Quddus lowered his shoulder, and when Nicks came down their helmets hit, but he in no way was head hunting. So please answer, anyone, how is a guy who is moving at a high speed, trying to break up a play and make a tackle supposed to hit a receiver in this situation? As long as no head hunting is involved, hits like this are part of football (its a rough game).

    I don’t want to post a video on this site, so go to youtube and type in: Hakeem Nicks hit HARD by Isa Abdul-Quddus

  55. thestillcity says: Nov 29, 2011 12:57 AM

    I can go one of two ways on this:

    1.) QBs are setting passing records left and right these days. Why? Because the rules won’t allow the defense to defend anymore. 20 years ago, no one throws that pass because Steve Atwater and Ronnie Lott would knock your receiver out for half the season — you had to make a different read. Aaron Rodgers is having a “Bob Gibson” kind of year, where they ended up lowering the mound the next year to give batters a chance. Tom Brady and Drew Brees aren’t far behind. I’d like to see the competition committee re-adjust all the ticky-tack pass interference next year; and I’d like QBs to have to think twice before throwing dangerous passes over the middle.

    2.) I’d rather see DBs play the ball and not the man. It would result in a more effective pass defense, and keep the league’s receiving stars on the field. There’s a lot more zone coverage in the league these days, but I’ve always enjoyed the deflections and interceptions more than the high hit.

  56. freedomispopular says: Nov 29, 2011 1:09 AM

    This defenseless receiver crap is a load of bull.

  57. heavyjumbo says: Nov 29, 2011 1:42 AM

    rea1talk says:

    funny how everyone is still calling the NFL a sissy league now and want the old style back and are calling out SUH FOR BEIN A BEAST…..when will ppl understand the term hypocrisy….. this is wat makes American ppl so damn sad…its a disgrace…..(SHUT UP!)

    ——————————————
    Comparing apples and oranges. The hit in question was a player hitting a receiver between the whistles, not stomping on a man after a play was over.

  58. lionhammer says: Nov 29, 2011 2:01 AM

    Not that I agree with the state of the league, but both calls were made based on the Status quo of this year.

    Having said that, my problem was with what happened after the hits. Nicks is on the ground and Saints players are jumping up and down hooting and hollering. Reverse the situation and Phillips gets up and checks to make sure Graham is ok, and is summarily cleaned off him by an over-zealous O-lineman. Both situation were downright embarrassing for the Saints as an organization.

  59. ruggerlad says: Nov 29, 2011 2:19 AM

    Perfectly clean hit so was the hit on Jimmy Graham. Goodell I HATE what you are doing to the game. Like the commentator said you cannot call the position safety anymore if you don’t let them play it. In fact why not just make it illegal to have a safety, the NFL is sh1t right now and it is all Goodell’s fault. The owners don’t wanna pay their players as much, want them to stay healthy so they don’t have to pay anyone else and yet they want to charge just as much for a far less exciting game, a mix of tackle and 2 hand touch without big hits. Shove it you rich tight pansies. Fix football or you will lose fans. I’m shifting to rugby, the CFL is a better game right now!

  60. earthtopft says: Nov 29, 2011 2:23 AM

    Abdul hit Hakeem so hard that Nicks was working on his third virgin before he came to.

  61. Eric Fay says: Nov 29, 2011 4:23 AM

    DBs in the NFL haven’t figured out how to run at a guy, making sure to stand straight up, and wrap up, but only if he has the ball… and if he doesn’t catch it, avoid him completely like he has AIDS

  62. baroneski29 says: Nov 29, 2011 4:39 AM

    Coming from a giants fan, that was a perfect hit. I could have done without the celebrating , but great hit.

  63. baldingerspinky says: Nov 29, 2011 6:26 AM

    I don’t understand how the giants didn’t get a flag when one of their d lineman choke slammed Ingram after the whistle blew and it was a clear 5 seconds after it blew. I guess the new giants slogan should be giants football we get the calls and none against us. I hate the giants.

  64. griblets says: Nov 29, 2011 6:33 AM

    Why isn’t it the responsibility of the QB and offense coordinator to not put their WR in a position to get hit like that? It used to be.

  65. diablito0402 says: Nov 29, 2011 6:45 AM

    With these rules today, ronny lott and rod woodson would of never made the hall of fame!!

  66. yzguy431 says: Nov 29, 2011 6:53 AM

    reasons why the nfl is so eager to go overseas. once over there, they will just call it soccer. maybe rugby can take hold in the u.s.

  67. mikeyhigs says: Nov 29, 2011 7:32 AM

    The NFL needs to stop having the refs throw a flag for everything that “might” be illegal. That roughing the passer on Will Smith against Eli in the 2nd was ridiculous. They should tell the refs to only throw flags on obvious and egregious hits. The NFL can fine them later if the ref missed something, but I am getting sick of fifteen yard penalties being handed out for someones finger touching the QB’s helmet or for shoving someone too hard.

  68. majbobby says: Nov 29, 2011 7:49 AM

    Hell just change the name of the league already National Flag Football League.

    Or turn it into a 7 on 7 league seeing you want to make good clean physical defense obsolete.

  69. cshearing says: Nov 29, 2011 8:07 AM

    Truly pathetic. I would blame the refs, but I know the league is backing this type of call. And we have the media mouthpieces trying to tell everyone how it is good, when it so obviously is not.

  70. nflofficeadmin says: Nov 29, 2011 8:21 AM

    Kenny Phillips just let Jimmy “chemo” Graham and the whole Saints team know that it’s a two way street. U on U violence… and Jimmy folded up like a cardboard box. I think it’s pretty clear between Kenny and Isa, Kenny dished out the better of the two hits.

    It was almost as if Kenny was filled up with the spirit of Sean Taylor, RIP (11/26/07) on that play.

  71. Raider-in-PA says: Nov 29, 2011 8:34 AM

    Is-ah that really his name??

  72. phetv27 says: Nov 29, 2011 8:39 AM

    The NFL is going to be a thing of the past. When you speak to the older folks they talk about Boxing, baseball, and horse racing. Once upon a time these sports were king. The way the NFL is going we’ll be looking at the NFL the same way. The thing that has made the NFL so popular (aggression, rivalry, and hatred) is slowly being removed from the game.

    Thanks a lot Goodell..

  73. n0hopeleft says: Nov 29, 2011 8:41 AM

    Let’s stop with the “Giants are the league favorite”.. Anyone who watches Giants games knows we typically do not get calls like that.

    Regardless of whether his helmet touched Nicks or not, these type of calls can be argued all day.

    They are ruining the game, regardless of what team you root for.

  74. 1bigtex says: Nov 29, 2011 8:45 AM

    For those who whine about the league’s attempts to protect the players (because that’s what we’re talking about, protecting players), go find a tape of John Mackey before he passed. The guy had been reduced to a mindless lump who was incapable of knowing who he was or where he was. Mackey was not the only former player who has been reduced to that level of functionality. Let’s give these guys a hope of a life after football that doesn’t involve drooling into a cup. It’s one thing to ask them to risk their physical health. Must we ask them to risk mental health as well?

  75. n0hopeleft says: Nov 29, 2011 8:50 AM

    skins23 says:
    Nov 29, 2011 12:33 AM
    The Kenny Phillips one was in an entirely different league than the hit on Nicks.

    Phillips lead with the helmet TO the helmet.

    Quddus lead with his shoulder to the body.

    ___________________________________

    How many times are you going to post about these hits? Save your crying for when the Giants take their anger out on the Deadskins.
    What a surprise – a DeAngelo Hall fan whining because his team is in the basement.

    At least Nicks didn’t short arm the pass like some other receivers in the NFC East.

  76. bengalsredgreenshow says: Nov 29, 2011 9:16 AM

    kane337 says:
    Nov 28, 2011 11:01 PM
    How about tackle the opponent properly instead of launching to intentially hurt or injure another player.
    —————–

    Explain how you would like that tackle made. Im interested to hear it.

    Should the DB hold his head waaaay back and look up into the air while he hits the receiver?
    Should the DB allow the receiver to catch the ball, then kindly ask him to lay down so you could tackle him?
    Should the DB put his head down and hit the WR in the chest, potentially fracturing his own neck, while ALSO drawing a penalty for “leading with the helmet”

    There used to be a saying.. see what you hit, apparently that doesnt work now, since you have to REMOVE your head to make a tackle, lest you get a 15 yard penalty.

  77. phillyb6 says: Nov 29, 2011 9:21 AM

    Can ball carriers wear helmets the size of beach balls? That way every time they get tackled it would be a 15 yard gain.

  78. flsnupe says: Nov 29, 2011 9:24 AM

    The League should start fining the QBs for leading the receivers into some of these big hits. Thats the problem, Manning knew it was a risk thats why he threw a bullet. If they are in zone, and the safety is sitting there, dont lead your receiver to the big hit.

  79. drshakedown74 says: Nov 29, 2011 9:26 AM

    This is BS………..the hit was good. I like what Steve Young said after the game….”You just can’t play safety in this league anymore.”

  80. ahs2 says: Nov 29, 2011 9:45 AM

    1bigtex says:
    Nov 29, 2011 8:45 AM
    For those who whine about the league’s attempts to protect the players (because that’s what we’re talking about, protecting players), go find a tape of John Mackey before he passed. The guy had been reduced to a mindless lump who was incapable of knowing who he was or where he was. Mackey was not the only former player who has been reduced to that level of functionality. Let’s give these guys a hope of a life after football that doesn’t involve drooling into a cup. It’s one thing to ask them to risk their physical health. Must we ask them to risk mental health as well?

    ———————————————————

    Admirable but that’s why they get paid so much…go tell a boxer!!!

  81. gmen1987 says: Nov 29, 2011 9:54 AM

    Goodell will handle this right. Goodell is as close to God that one can get, even more so than Tim Tebow.

  82. manhorse69 says: Nov 29, 2011 9:55 AM

    That hit was as borderline as it can be and still be called illegal. I don’t think it was the helmet to helmet nature of it as much as the defenseless receiver aspect. Certainly wasn’t for any excessive celebration. One angle of a replay shows the back judge throwing the flag before Nicks even hits the ground.

    I think the launching and head to head hits should be flagged but this defenseless player stuff is tricky. It makes sense when it is employed to keep a guy like Hines Ward from decapitating a guy with a block or protecting a kicker/QB during a return but for a receiver it makes little sense. By nature, any receiver attempting to catch a ball is defenseless for som amount of time. Assuming the QB throws a good ball to a capable receiver the play will have a 100% success rate because the receiver will be allowed to make the catch of will be hit while deemed to be defenseless and result in a 15 yard penalty. I didn’t see the Philips hit on Graham but if we use the Dunta Robinson, Merriweather, Harrison trio of hit from last season, yes, those types of hits need to go. The hit on Nicks looked clean and was simply mistimed, but based on the current rules it has to be called.

  83. yem123 says: Nov 29, 2011 10:02 AM

    There were two clean hits last night… the one on Nicks and the Kenny Phillips hit on Graham. both were flagged but neither was helmet to helmet. As a Giants fan I cringed when I saw the Nicks hit… just as a Saints fan would have when Graham was hit… but they were both legal.

  84. manhorse69 says: Nov 29, 2011 10:03 AM

    As for the crowd pining for the “good old days”, those days/players are the reason the NFL is the way it is now. There is a line around the block of players saying they weren’t protected or played with concussions or still suffer symptoms. The game and the rules have evolved with the type of players playing it. people can’t have protection and then whine that it turns the game into flag football. The NFL is smart and can see that with the new evidence and continued study of concussions that they will have a class action lawsuit with plaintiffs in the thousands who will claim the league did nothing to protect them. The NFL has to do it’s part to at least cut down on the number of concussions. But in the same way seatbelts haven’t eliminated auto fatalities these rules won’t eliminate concussions in a game where one of the primary areas of contact is the head. The problem is many of us (players included) will probably never know how many concussions were prevented because of the rules causing a guy to pull up or hit lower.

  85. dannyabramowitz says: Nov 29, 2011 10:20 AM

    Roger Goodell is without a doubt the worst commissioner in the history of pro sports. He is literally destroying the entity he is charged to protect. Think about it, the fundamentals of football are tackling, catching the ball, scoring touchdowns. No one knows what a legal tackle is anymore. No one knows what a catch is anymore. No one knows what a touchdown is anymore (i.e. Jermaine Gresham non-TD). How can you have a sport when the rules are constantly changing? I am a diehard Saints fan and have not missed watching a game in 20 years. I turned the TV off after the penalty on Quddus. This is not football. Hue Jackson said it best after several roughing penalties on the Raiders, “I don’t know what football is anymore.” Congratulations Goodell, you have/are ruining the sport we love.

  86. skinsfaninnebraska says: Nov 29, 2011 10:40 AM

    The two hits were nowhere near the same! Seriously, I wonder if any of you posting otherwise actually saw the game?

    The hit on Nicks was a clean, hard hit led with the shoulder. How else is a safety supposed to defend a pass over the middle? Concede the catch and the try to tackle his feet as he runs by you? Should not be a penalty but for the stupidity, of the current NFL leadership.

    The hit on Graham was a clear targeting of the receiver’s head; Graham was stationary and the defender launched himself at Graham’s head, leading with his helmet. That should be a penalty in any era of the game.

  87. sanjose61 says: Nov 29, 2011 10:55 AM

    The two biggest differences between the two plays?

    The Saints DBs were squealing in celebration like school girls.

    The Giants DBs actually tried to show respect and concern for Graham.

  88. txraiderfan says: Nov 29, 2011 7:04 PM

    If you have ever played a down of football in your life, you know that helmets will sometimes make contact!

  89. faccda01 says: Nov 29, 2011 8:25 PM

    If he didnt hit him, it would have been a catch for a first down. Itnwas absolutely a clean hit and a horrible call.

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