He didn’t go back in the game. The End.

A: concussions can be “caught” by simply observing, at least the suspicion of one…

B: If a prelim eval was done that warranted a complete eval then by NFL policies and protocol that should have occurred immediately.

The signs of a brain injury are rarely a “fasle-positive”. The simple definition of a concussion is:
Disruption of normal brain funtion. If you can walk normally then you stumble about after a traumatic incident that is a concussion at its root… If you are awake then lose consciousness that is a concussion at its root… If you know your assignments on the field then you don’t after a traumatic incident that is a concussion at its root…

Regarless all those situations warrant a full evaluation in a quiet room, period…

The Steelers should know;
- Mike Webster (first CTE in NFL’er)
- ImPACT/UPMC
- Joseph Maroon (former team doc, leading author of discredited information about concussions from pre-2008)

OR

perhaps a preliminary eval was done on the sidelines that caused the med staff to want to do a complete and thorough eval at halftime (in the quiet environment you suggest). once that eval was complete, maybe they made a recommendation/determination that he not return to the game….

relax

Sorry, in all the excitement of being right, I lost count. I actually posted 4 links for you. Not 3.

Two newspapers – one a PA publication. One betting site. One a fantasy site. Funny how the Steelers then never listed that injury. Oh, he hurt his leg that’s right!

And I had to prove myself why?

Who decides what “lucid” means? A concussion is defined as a traumatic brain injury. Having had a few concussions myself, I can attest to while being reasonably “lucid” my judgement was often impaired following the injury.

Yes, the NFL’s concussion culture may be improving. But it’s still inconsistent at best in handling TBIs from the coaching staffs to the medical personnel & right on down to the players. (All subjective team employees no less).

Every previous concussion regardless of severity makes it that much easier to get another, and often worse, concussion. That’s a undeniable medical fact the NFL still seems to be denial about. Players like Polamalu included.

i posted the link to ESPN’s page, but this site wouldn’t put it through. It makes absolutely no mention of Jonathan Scott on the injury report for last years AFC championship game–let alone listing him as having a “head injury.” Here it is:

Steelers (13-4)
Doubtful: DE Aaron Smith (triceps)
Questionable: S Will Allen (knee), CB Bryant McFadden (abdomen)
Probable: S Troy Polamalu (Achilles)

Please refrain from posting innacurate information to support your unsupportable claims.

@ProFootballTalk – how would you know whether I have any medical training or background or not? I never called anyone “idiot doctors” or anything like that. I would not describe doctors that way. When you see some one wobble off the field, not at the end of the series, but in the middle of a series, and then later see a injury report with a head injury, there is pretty good evidence for suspicion of a concussion. Did I pee in your corn flakes this morning or something? You seem testy.

In the injury report for the next week against the Jets in the AFC Championship Scott is listed with a head injury. I don’t think he missed more than 1 series against the Ravens in that game.
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Post the link for that injury report on this page and i will gladly retract my statement.

“Last year’s playoff game versus Ravens. Jonathon Scott wobbles off the field. The Steelers O-line was decimated with injuries. Damned if Scott didn’t finish that game. Fact!”

How is that someone like you–who’s clearly had no formal medical training–can spot a concussion from the way a guy walks off the field, but these idiot doctors actually have to use a battery of tests to diagnosis it?

The truth is, the level of knowledge and understanding about concussions is far greater today than in past years. Comments suggestiong “it’s a man’s game” and “it’s their life” are just about as foolish as they come. And I agree it isn’t just about them not re-entering the game. The latest information on concussion recovery discusses removal of any stimulus from the affected person (such as removing them from the sidelines). There are now restrictions (depending on severity) from game plan review and film study to allow the brain to rest after concussion. So standing on the sideline agonizing over not being able to play is not necessarily the best thing for the player.

To suggest players can police themselves or that they know the risks is also foolish. Does a drunk, over .08 blood alcohol level, think they can still drive? Does a person with a potential concussion (which is also an impairment) think clearly? Obviously not. If the players themselves weren’t concerned about this then why was part of the bargaining agreement?

Fans have to come to grips with the “evolution” of the game which reflects our increased knowledge on head injuries. To suggest this is “a man’s game” is bravado coming from someone who has no true understanding of the medical issues.

The NFL needs to look out for the players, and the players need to look out for themselves.

And this whole “Football is a man’s sport and crying is for sissies” nonsense seriously needs to stop. Yes, these guys are out there playing a game, but does that mean that they should play with their health, as well? What price should they have to pay to keep us entertained?

Being a Pats fan, Ted Johnson’s story comes to mind. Read it.

…they get fined for spearing people and try and call the NFL out saying its a witch hunt and clean play, then they hide their self-inflicted MASH players when their dome’s get crushed…

Stop leading with the crowns Pittsburgh and all this will go away, but then again so will your “dominance”.

If the Lions’ coaching staff is partially responsible for Suh and his antics, so should the Pittsburgh staff be on the hook for the personal fouls and the lead-with-the-helmet based injuries.

@steelfan
Please…….the only reason you know HIPPA laws exist, is because you saw the capital letters when you got you latest unemployment check…..By your genius analysis, i suppose injury reports in the NFL are a violation of HIPPA laws? Same thing right?
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To 700levelvet: It is known as sarcasm directed at all the lawyerly talk about concussions and injuries blah, blah, blah. So sick of it. It is a man’s game and a free country. Tired of all the law and government BS talk about a once great game. Try to get the sarcasm and where it is directed. And one other thing, it is HIPAA, not HIPPA.

A rock hard plastic outer shell with padding and air bags inside for cushioning.

Since Willie Lanier first wore a helmet with padding added to the outside of the rock hard outer shell, the NFL has known a better and safer helmet option was available.

How many more players have to be injured before Goodell and the NFL adopt a “Pro Cap” type helmet, with padding added to the outside?

I’m surprised that four or five players, and other representatives, haven’t come out and challenged Goodell’s authority on this one, as they have whenever eliminating dirty play or not giving them their way has come up in the past.

When you allow the worst franchise in the history of sport, to then take on a wholesale steroid policy to turn things around, and then you can successfully orchestrate a an “Eastern Block” media blackout that is unprecedented, you realize where the real power lays.

The steelroids will do what they want to do, they are like the honeybadger. If Harrison wants to dip his forehead at the last second and drill it into the side of Josh Cribb’s temple, he will! And, if you don’t like it stooler nation will tell you how “legal” of a hit it was and how you don’t know football.

Its kinda like the Bcs.

Get used to it.

DUMP DOWN to the competition !

That game should have been 50-0….

Stillers just can’t get up for a lousy team !

oh… subject?.. hey… the players get paid plenty… they decide if they got ‘health’ -body’ issues…

Ben is out playing… Cutler goes to the hospital…

Not a game for the faint hearted

Should a team remove a player from a game when he’s obviously not able to play due to a concussion? Yes. Should a team protect their investment by keeping a player out that has a concussion? Yes. Should a player that insists he’s able to play be allowed back into a game? Yes. It’s his life, his career, and his future.