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Tony Dungy: Lions’ coaches bear some blame for Suh

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In his year and a half in the NFL, Ndamukong Suh has earned a reputation as one of the most talented defensive linemen in the league and one of the dirtiest players in the league. According to Tony Dungy, the Lions’ staff deserves some blame for ignoring the latter because they were so enamored with the former.

I really have to fault the Detroit organization,” Dungy said on the Dan Patrick Show. “I think they really could have stopped this.”

Dungy makes a fair point: We’ve been talking about the potential for Suh to get suspended since preseason of his rookie year, when he nearly took Jake Delhomme’s head off with a dirty play. The Lions could have nipped it in the bud by putting the hammer down on Suh and telling him that he’d get benched if he hurt his team by incurring 15-yard penalties. But the Lions have largely looked the other way.

And that’s understandable: Lions coach Jim Schwartz has tried to cultivate a tough team in Detroit, and he liked the attitude that Suh instilled. Suh is great when he gets close to the line between “tough” and “dirty,” and Schwartz wasn’t going to bench Suh on the occasions when he crosses that line.

But Schwartz’s decision to let Suh play the way he wants to play has consequences. And the consequence this week will likely be that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell will take the decision to bench Suh out of Schwartz’s hands.

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  1. cakemixa says: Nov 28, 2011 12:00 PM

    Tony Dungy is holier than thou.

  2. broncobeta says: Nov 28, 2011 12:01 PM

    Wait. He’s right.

  3. silversun60 says: Nov 28, 2011 12:03 PM

    Tony:

    Shut up and please come back.

    -The Colts

  4. djteknision1200 says: Nov 28, 2011 12:04 PM

    Suh has a decision to make about his legacy…Does he want to be known as a great player or a dirty player. The choice is his…He is still young and now is the time to make the decision or it could cost him.

  5. robigd says: Nov 28, 2011 12:04 PM

    Who cares what this clown says. He coached a team that was coached by Peyton Manning.

    Mike McCarthy is the new Tony Dungy.

  6. cowboysfan18 says: Nov 28, 2011 12:05 PM

    I smell some forced time off for some knee surgery if he keeps this crap up. I’m not saying it should happen or it’s right, just these things probably have a way of fixing themselves. Good player, just can’t control his emotions. Hmm, reminds me of a woman…just much larger.

  7. thoff1525 says: Nov 28, 2011 12:05 PM

    I agree. It also seems that Schwartz has somewhat of a temper, just by seeing his reactions to plays on the sidelines and also obviously the handshake. Think maybe Schwartz needs to lead by example in this particular case.

  8. comeonnowguys says: Nov 28, 2011 12:08 PM

    That’s crazy. It’s not like Schwartz has had a history of cultivating this type of behavior.

    Wait, what?

  9. delintzman says: Nov 28, 2011 12:09 PM

    I posted when he met with the Commisioner that they wanted him as the face of the NFL that he would be under the microscope… I was hated for it.. Well it didn’t take long or a very close look to see who and what he eally is. He Suhcks!

  10. delintzman says: Nov 28, 2011 12:09 PM

    *really

  11. suhnum1fan says: Nov 28, 2011 12:09 PM

    TD, please come out of retirement, come back to Michigan so you can bring a title to the Lions.

  12. glac1 says: Nov 28, 2011 12:12 PM

    Suh is being coached to play that way. If he wasn’t the organization would have taken firm action by now.

  13. razzledazzle90 says: Nov 28, 2011 12:12 PM

    Not enough people are talking about how underwhelming Suh’s performance and numbers have been this year.

  14. xstaticonradio says: Nov 28, 2011 12:13 PM

    I agree, but go away Dungy.

  15. impeachgoodell says: Nov 28, 2011 12:13 PM

    So true. There is a distinction between playing hard and plain dirty play. Suh has crossed that line many times without restraint from his coaches.

  16. 4evrnyt says: Nov 28, 2011 12:14 PM

    Every employer in this country is accountable for the actions of it’s employees while they are at work, period. If Suh get’s penalized so should the Lions for not taking care of this in house before it got to this point.

  17. 4evrnyt says: Nov 28, 2011 12:15 PM

    If the Lions came out and suspended Suh for a game immediately after the incident then the league would have had it’s thunder stolen and most of this conversation wouldn’t even be happening.

  18. lilbitofsoul says: Nov 28, 2011 12:15 PM

    “But Schwartz’s decision to let Suh play the way he wants to play has consequences. And the consequence this week will likely be that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell will take the decision to bench Suh out of Schwartz’s hands.”

    As a HUGE Lions fan…Good! Suh is good and I like what he “Could” bring to the table. But this kind of stuff will always hurt the team more then help.

    FYI Most of Detroit fans are tired of his actions and are stating he needs to be reprimanded.

  19. joetoronto says: Nov 28, 2011 12:17 PM

    He’s absolutely right and just like the Lions let it get bigger by not addressing it, the NFL will be in the same boat if they don’t bring the hammer down now.

    He’s not getting the message, he needs to be hit between the eyes hard, with a multi-game suspension.

  20. mountaindont says: Nov 28, 2011 12:19 PM

    If you knew Peggy Suh he should be suspended for a game or two Oh Peggy Oh Peggy Suuuuuuuhh

  21. primetime0552 says: Nov 28, 2011 12:20 PM

    Am I the only one sick of hearing Dungy’s opinion on everything. He is starting to remind me off Jesse Jackson..

  22. primetime0552 says: Nov 28, 2011 12:21 PM

    Also, it’s easy for Dungy to say what other coaches/players should have/should be doing. I am willing to bet Dungy would not have sat Suh down if he was playing for him.

  23. rkolenda says: Nov 28, 2011 12:23 PM

    The media is out of control on this. They have been hyping Suh as a dirty player since he came into the league. This is exactly what they wanted. In no way do I support what happened but the media has overblown this and they love it!

  24. smoothjimmyapollo says: Nov 28, 2011 12:24 PM

    I think there is something Packer and Bear fans can agree on: given all the unearned hubris from Lions’ fans and trash-talking from Lions players, it has been extremely fun to watch this team melt down the past few weeks.

    With a Packers’ win and Lions’ loss next weekend, the Packers can clinch a Vikings’ Championship (or as everyone else calls them, division championship).

  25. deadeye says: Nov 28, 2011 12:24 PM

    If the NFL wants teams to police their own players from making dirty plays, they need to fine or penalize those teams when the players commit flagrant personal fouls.

    Suh is playing a style of football that the Detroit organization likes. They will stop liking it when it hits them with heavy fines and player suspensions. It’s unrealistic to expect them to change until there are real consequences.

  26. easyeddie says: Nov 28, 2011 12:29 PM

    cowboysfan18 says: Nov 28, 2011 12:05 PM

    I smell some forced time off for some knee surgery if he keeps this crap up. I’m not saying it should happen or it’s right, just these things probably have a way of fixing themselves. Good player, just can’t control his emotions. Hmm, reminds me of a woman…just much larger.
    ——————————-

    Still pissed about week 4, huh?

  27. easyeddie says: Nov 28, 2011 12:31 PM

    4evrnyt says: Nov 28, 2011 12:14 PM

    Every employer in this country is accountable for the actions of it’s employees while they are at work, period.
    ———————————

    HYPERBOLE ALERT!! HYPERBOLE ALERT!!

  28. pftstory says: Nov 28, 2011 12:33 PM

    Why do we give a crap what Dungy thinks all the time?

  29. alwaters9 says: Nov 28, 2011 12:35 PM

    Anyone who wouldn’t want Suh on their team raise your hand……I thought so.

  30. babyjesus69 says: Nov 28, 2011 12:35 PM

    Why is anyone surprised by this? Schwartz was Haynesworths D coordinator in Tenn. He totally encouraged Suh’s play. The team is the reflection of a coach who can dish it but can’t take it.

  31. wvuandsteelers says: Nov 28, 2011 12:37 PM

    If Dungy coached Tebow, which one would perform the most miracles?

    I’m so over the “holier than thou” Dungy it isn’t funny.

  32. randomguy9999 says: Nov 28, 2011 12:40 PM

    Suh is just another Haynesworth:… his plan will become:

    1- come back from suspension and swear everything will be fine and will return to prior form
    2- get cut for not performing this year and being a pain in the rump
    3- work out major contract with desperate team
    4- once the big paychecks start coming in, he’ll loaf around and whine he’s not in the right system and doesn’t get enough playing time
    5- when he gets cut, he’ll get some team to bet on a comeback and make a half hearted effort, then retire
    6- there will be some arrests in there…

    Haynesworth 2…. guaranteed

  33. twitter:Chapman_Jamie says: Nov 28, 2011 12:54 PM

    Thank you Jesus, I mean Tebow, for giving Tony Dungy, formerly Jesus, the ability to state publicly what every damn football fan already knew. What on earth would we do without the great Tony Dungy!!!!????!!

  34. chetwynnr says: Nov 28, 2011 12:55 PM

    If you missed Tony’s comments, he also stated that he used to show his players films of the type of actions that wouldn’t be tolerated.
    Do something stupid once and we’ll remind you. Do it twice and you’ll be riding the pine. Coach Schwartz is a decent coach but he’s not perfect. I doubt he’ll take the Lions to the Super Bowl unless he buys them tickets.

  35. chmba says: Nov 28, 2011 1:00 PM

    Dungy is right…Schwartz encouraged this kind of thing with Titans and Gunther Cunningham is not much better.

    That said:

    Go away Tony and while you are leaving take Rodney with you!

  36. gb4mn0 says: Nov 28, 2011 1:01 PM

    Send him to the home of the weird, the desperate and the mentally maladjusted, The MN Vikequeens.

  37. pskotte says: Nov 28, 2011 1:04 PM

    Suhcks.

  38. bearsstillsuck says: Nov 28, 2011 1:05 PM

    oh, I thought suh was a grown add man and knew the rules himself.

  39. donmega72 says: Nov 28, 2011 1:06 PM

    Man it always bothers me when Dungy puts his two cents in, but not this time. He is correct and I don’t want to see the Lions turn into a dirty team.
    Why doesn’t Dungy counsel Suh like he did with Vick? It seemed to change Vick’s outlook on things and be a better player and person.
    Suh needs to look at this suspension as an opportunity. He needs to change his game. I get sick and tired of people saying that he’s old school. The game has evolved and Suh needs to play withing the rules. I don’t like all the changes either, but he has to play within the rules or he’s going to be out of a job.

  40. toooverbearing says: Nov 28, 2011 1:09 PM

    If I’m Goodell… I would publicly give Suh two options.

    1. Three game suspension and weekly drug tests for the rest of his career.

    2. Five game suspension and the normal adherance to the NFL drug policy.

    I’d be interested in which one he chooses.

  41. mikeheruki says: Nov 28, 2011 1:10 PM

    Tony: Just go away.

  42. easyeddie says: Nov 28, 2011 1:13 PM

    randomguy9999 says: Nov 28, 2011 12:40 PM

    Suh is just another Haynesworth:… his plan will become:

    1- come back from suspension and swear everything will be fine and will return to prior form
    2- get cut for not performing this year and being a pain in the rump
    3- work out major contract with desperate team
    4- once the big paychecks start coming in, he’ll loaf around and whine he’s not in the right system and doesn’t get enough playing time
    5- when he gets cut, he’ll get some team to bet on a comeback and make a half hearted effort, then retire
    6- there will be some arrests in there…

    Haynesworth 2…. guaranteed
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    Laughable post randomguy. I remember when I had my first beer.

  43. nahcouldntbethat says: Nov 28, 2011 1:13 PM

    Mean Joe Greene once stomped on an opposing lineman’s arm in the scrum and broke it. He got a 15 yard penalty out of it and no suspension. When asked for a comment about the incident after the game Greene said: “I told him to stop holding me.” End of comment.

    The NFL is trying to change long-established norms of play. They’re going to have to work harder at it nd they’re going to have to start fining coaches and organizations alongside the players.

  44. megatronownsyou says: Nov 28, 2011 1:13 PM

    His opinion is totally irrelevant. He isn’t part of the organization and therefore has no idea what the coaching staff may or may not have done to prevent this type of behavior.
    I’m so sick of all these talking heads pretending to know things they don’t. I usually just mute my tv and listen to music now.

  45. time2speakup says: Nov 28, 2011 1:15 PM

    It is amazing to me (and somewhat disappointing as far as this kid’s future) that no one is looking at the other side of this. This consistency on the part of this kids negative actions sreams, “I need some help.” And nobody seems to want to face that. Just watching him trying his best to drive that players head into the turf before he actually kicked a defenseless person shows this youngster is in dire need of some help from some mental health professional. At this rate, it will take Suh leaving some unfortunate player either semi or permanently damaged for people to wake the hell up and stop being fascinated by potential dollar signs.

  46. primetime0552 says: Nov 28, 2011 1:16 PM

    randomguy9999 says:Nov 28, 2011 12:40 PM

    Suh is just another Haynesworth:… his plan will become:

    1- come back from suspension and swear everything will be fine and will return to prior form
    2- get cut for not performing this year and being a pain in the rump
    3- work out major contract with desperate team
    4- once the big paychecks start coming in, he’ll loaf around and whine he’s not in the right system and doesn’t get enough playing time
    5- when he gets cut, he’ll get some team to bet on a comeback and make a half hearted effort, then retire
    6- there will be some arrests in there…

    Haynesworth 2…. guaranteed

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    1.) Who knows what will happen
    2.) There is no way he is getting cut.
    3.) He already has a huge contract. His second contract will probably be the same or smaller then his rookie contract.
    4.) He already has the big paychecks coming in and was All Pro as rookie. He might not have huge numbers this year, but if you watch Lions games he definitely has an impact. Kinda of like Corey Williams did last year. Williams didn’t have huge numbers, but Suh wouldn’t of had the year if Williams wasn’t being doubled and tripled every game.
    5.) Again, there is no way he will be cut.
    6.) Everyone says he is the nicest guy off the field, but flips the switch on the field. So i doubt that he will be arrested.

  47. granadafan says: Nov 28, 2011 1:20 PM

    Finally the vast majority of Lions fans are slowly realizing what the rest of the observers in the country have the dirtiest player in the league. Even after fellow players voted Suh the dirtiest, the deluded Lions fans could not and would not accept it. Welcome to reality, Lions fans.

  48. thehighhat says: Nov 28, 2011 1:21 PM

    Schwantz isn’t that smart of a coach, so he makes up for it by instilling his meathead philosophy in his team. They have 2 of the top players (Suh and Avril) that lead the league in personal fouls, goes right along with Schwantz’ “playing dumb” style of coaching.

  49. megatronownsyou says: Nov 28, 2011 1:24 PM

    Hey a “smooth”jimmy please clarify why you would consider having a 7-4 record at this point in the season a “meltdown”.
    I haven’t seen this meltdown you are so enjoying and I would say we have a pretty good shot at the playoffs. Aside form the small bump of Stafford breaking his finger things have gone pretty well.
    I’m holding my breath waiting for your sure to be ingenious response.

  50. easyeddie says: Nov 28, 2011 1:24 PM

    toooverbearing says: Nov 28, 2011 1:09 PM

    If I’m Goodell… I would publicly give Suh two options.

    1. Three game suspension and weekly drug tests for the rest of his career.

    2. Five game suspension and the normal adherance to the NFL drug policy.

    I’d be interested in which one he chooses.
    ——————————

    Drug testing? Maybe your the one who needs it.

  51. tformation says: Nov 28, 2011 1:29 PM

    The reason why the Lions haven’t suspended Suh yet is because they’re waiting for the league to do it for them. It works out well for the Lions org come contract time. The Lions front office can hide behind: “We didn’t suspend you, the LEAGUE suspended you.” Plus, why punish your player on top of what the league is already going to do? You’d be punishing yourself at that point.

    Looking at the replays of Suh trying to bang that player’s head into the turf… on national TV on Thanksgiving with millions watching… that just screams “I have an anger problem.” Just stupid. Emotional and stupid. Time for the anger management classes. Give him a couple weeks of not playing to fully appreciate them.

  52. kmart0319 says: Nov 28, 2011 1:34 PM

    Suh is the reason the NFLPA is balking at HGH testing. Typical roid rage going on with him and they don’t want him caught.

  53. ike1973 says: Nov 28, 2011 1:40 PM

    Am I the only one that thinks he shouldn’t get suspended? Maybe a fine, but that’s all. It doesn’t even look like he made contact if you watch the replay in slow motion. If Suh really wanted to stomp the guy I don’t think he’d be getting up quite so easily. It’s all just the media overblowing things. I’m sure the same thing has happened many times over the years.

  54. comeonnowguys says: Nov 28, 2011 1:47 PM

    primetime0552 says:
    “Nov 28, 2011 12:20 PM
    Am I the only one sick of hearing Dungy’s opinion on everything. He is starting to remind me off Jesse Jackson..”

    I’m sure the fact he’s criticizing your team has nothing to do with your comment, right?

    That’s ok, you and easyeddie will be able to look back at the good ol’ days of 5-0 as the schedule gets tougher and the Lions’ season slips away.

  55. mogogo1 says: Nov 28, 2011 1:47 PM

    Hard to argue with Dungy on this point. Suh was a beast at Nebraska, too, but he wasn’t known for being a dirty player. This has all come up since he joined the Lions. Maybe part of it is the money going to his head, but the Lions really haven’t done anything to discourage his behavior until now that he’s getting suspended for it.

  56. rmc1995 says: Nov 28, 2011 1:47 PM

    Dungy should just be happy Goodell wasn’t commish and the rules of today didn’t apply when he had Lynch going at heads on every pass reception and Sapp was lifting and landing on QBs and running his mouth without stop.

  57. easyeddie says: Nov 28, 2011 1:51 PM

    granadafan says: Nov 28, 2011 1:20 PM

    Finally the vast majority of Lions fans are slowly realizing what the rest of the observers in the country have the dirtiest player in the league. Even after fellow players voted Suh the dirtiest, the deluded Lions fans could not and would not accept it. Welcome to reality, Lions fans.
    —————————————
    Also arguably the best interior lineman from a 4-3 defense in the league. I’ll take the “dirty” label any day, as Suh will only get better and better.

  58. rarson says: Nov 28, 2011 1:56 PM

    “And that’s understandable”

    No it’s not. It’s not understandable why a coach wouldn’t discipline his players, unless he doesn’t give a damn about his players’ conduct. And if that’s the case (which I tend to think it isn’t, I think Jim Schwartz, maybe not directly but at least indirectly, actually encourages this type of behavior), then I don’t think the coach should have a job in the NFL. But that’s just my opinion.

  59. easyeddie says: Nov 28, 2011 1:56 PM

    kmart0319 says: Nov 28, 2011 1:34 PM

    Suh is the reason the NFLPA is balking at HGH testing. Typical roid rage going on with him and they don’t want him caught.

    ——————————-
    OK, not sure I understand. The NFLPA is balking on HGH testing so Suh won’t get caught and can keep on threatening the very careers of his fellow association members?

  60. melikefootball says: Nov 28, 2011 1:58 PM

    I find it interesting how these guys ( Dungy) sit in front of a Tv camera and spout off their slant on all teams, players, coaches and owners and then it becomes the all mighty answer. Dungy, do we all believe would have done anything as well. The media has so much time on the airways they then beging to get on the soap box and preach THEIR values and thoughts. So much crap goes on in all of proffesional sports and only certain ones are cuttled close to the sports shows and others are burned at the stake.

  61. greenbay4ever says: Nov 28, 2011 1:58 PM

    I keep hearing all this talk that Suh is such a great player. I guess I am missing something. He is not leading in any categories that would indicate he is great. He wasn’t the Defensive player of the year last year and he won’t be this year. I don’t understand all the praise he gets. He is good and has potential but he doesn’t have the brains or the discipline that it will take . He is a dirty player, that he has proven.

  62. rmc1995 says: Nov 28, 2011 2:09 PM

    Is there some study about the connection of rage and HGH I missed? I’ve never heard of the rage side effect with HGH before but there are a few here that believe there is. If so the linebacker for Green Bay should be tested for HGH for the domestic dispute with his girlfriend. I expect a man to have some rage getting hit 60 times a game, but not when he gets home to the family.

  63. atlgetusome says: Nov 28, 2011 2:10 PM

    TD is a football GOD!

  64. uwachampion says: Nov 28, 2011 2:12 PM

    Blah Blah. Dungy was an overrated coach and sucks on NBC. I cant stand to listen to him talk. He didnt make anything good in Tampa, Monte Kiffin did!

  65. packrulzm says: Nov 28, 2011 2:14 PM

    Why all the hatred for Dungy? Cripes, the man handed Jon “The Hack” Gruden a super bowl team. As far a Donkey Kong goes, well, he’s a pretty good player with the attitude of a 4 year old. I love his ability, but cannot stand his Coach. At the heart of this is a Coach with little man syndrome (See 49ers handshake). A classless ass who wants to intimidate people but only ends up having those same people laugh their collective asses off at his childish antics.

  66. flipadelphia says: Nov 28, 2011 2:14 PM

    Laughing at all the roid comments. Suh is a large man but nothing like the disproportional bodies of Clay Matthews, Cushing or even a Pat Willis.

    You all sound like little girls whining on the schoolyard because the big kids not playing fair….but if he was on your team you’d be singing a different song.

  67. uwachampion says: Nov 28, 2011 2:15 PM

    And Yes Suh is by far the dirtiest player in the NFL and should be suspended. All the talent in the world and he will piss it away by acting like a jackass.

  68. drtanap says: Nov 28, 2011 2:28 PM

    Ya, Schwartz isn’t a smart coach. That’s why Belichik has said on record many times he’s the smartest assistant he’s ever had.

  69. thefnlimit says: Nov 28, 2011 2:34 PM

    Yeah they can bear some of the blame but where do you draw the line? You want your coaching staff to be able to back up their players and support them from within the organization. This guy does things that the coaches can’t control. The coach isn’t out there telling him to keep his foot from stomping on a defensless player that is laying on the ground looking up at him (probably talking trash). Suh is dirty and it’s Suh’s fault he’s that way. This guy needs to learn this on his own and not find scapegoats in coaching.

  70. Derty Ernie says: Nov 28, 2011 2:35 PM

    TOny unlike you changing teams and being on great teams that never won the big one until late in your career, The lions have had 50 years of losing.

    Having a wild man stir up the crowd and the team is something the staff should allow since its been a long time coming.

    Stepping on someone and facemasking is a coachable thing that the team must spend time on but having a team of wild men fits right now.

  71. detroitsgonagetya says: Nov 28, 2011 2:49 PM

    It just goes to show how the media is blowing this out of proportion, When an reporter asked the guy “did you get stomped” the players response was “I don’t know, i’ll have to watch the tape”
    While I don’t agree with Suh doing what he did, I find it funny that this is the topic of every talking head on TV. He’s going to get suspended, leave it at that already, I’m just tired of hearing all the “Talking Heads” opinions. About the only person we havent heard from yet is the Ford field janitor!

  72. lionsfanatic84 says: Nov 28, 2011 3:03 PM

    Doesn’t dingy reach out to “troubled” players? If he thinks Suh is so bad then why is he gossiping about him and his. team instead of being proactive? Without peyton manning he is just Jim Caldwell, and nobody would care what he says

  73. bozosforall says: Nov 28, 2011 3:10 PM

    Better to hear it from Dungy than from that hypocrite, Roidney HGHarrison.

  74. tformation says: Nov 28, 2011 3:12 PM

    Hey “Derty Ernie,”

    You think the Bucs were a winning team before Dungy? Really?

  75. dewalt2990 says: Nov 28, 2011 3:18 PM

    lol…the important name not mentioned in the article…Gunther Cunningham. Sure Schwartz wants his team to be big and tough…but Gun coaches his players to go for the jugular.

  76. dewalt2990 says: Nov 28, 2011 3:21 PM

    “I don’t know, i’ll have to watch the tape” lol

  77. primetime0552 says: Nov 28, 2011 3:26 PM

    comeonnowguys says:Nov 28, 2011 1:47 PM

    primetime0552 says:
    “Nov 28, 2011 12:20 PM
    Am I the only one sick of hearing Dungy’s opinion on everything. He is starting to remind me off Jesse Jackson..”

    I’m sure the fact he’s criticizing your team has nothing to do with your comment, right?

    That’s ok, you and easyeddie will be able to look back at the good ol’ days of 5-0 as the schedule gets tougher and the Lions’ season slips away.

    —————————————————

    It actually has nothing to do with it. It seems 2 or 3 times a week he is saying something, and acts like he is perfect. Like another poster pointed out, he never sat Lynch when he was killing people over the middle or Sapp when he was destroying Qbs. Lynch wasn’t the cleanest safety every to play in the NFL….

  78. smoothjimmyapollo says: Nov 28, 2011 3:31 PM

    @megatronownsyou, the evidence of a requested meltdown:

    1. a 5-0 start followed by a 2-4 record since
    2. Schwartz getting all fussy after Harbaugh shook his hand too hard
    3. Suh ripping off Cutler’s helmet, Fairley drawing a fine for driving Cutler into the ground, Stafford whipping a Bear down by the helmet when he got upset over throwing another INT, miscellaneous other things in the Bears game
    4. Suh’s tantrum after getting pancaked by the Packers back-up guard

    They are currently seeded 7th in the NFC losing common opponent tie-breakers to the Bears and head-to-head against the Falcons. The Bears remaining schedule includes Denver, K.C., Seattle, Minnesota, and Green Bay. Even with Hanie, they’ll be 4-1. Detroit is not catching them. Atlanta has Houston, Carolina, Jacksonville, New Orleans, and Tampa. At worst, Atlanta goes 3-2 which means in order to get ahead of them, Detroit will have to go at least 4-1, maybe 5-0. Considering they face N.O., GB, and they travel to Oakland, it’s probably not happening. They’re missing the playoffs. As I said, meltdown.

  79. chetwynnr says: Nov 28, 2011 3:33 PM

    If Suh would have just said, “Hell yes I stomped him!” and then why, as nahcouldntbethat said of Mean Joe Greene, we probably would look at it differently. But when Suh tried that lame excuse crap he painted a big target on himself. In effect he called everyone watching a liar, “You gonna believe me or your lyin’ eyes?”

  80. cmutimmah says: Nov 28, 2011 3:34 PM

    Since it’s pronounced “SUE”, Suhcks doesn’t make sense.

    I agree with Dungy, but if I saw his creepy, rapist-like eyes illuminated in a dark alley I would scream like a little girl and run away.

  81. djpurvis says: Nov 28, 2011 3:34 PM

    QUIT EATING AT SUBWAY UNTIL THEY DUMP SUH!!

  82. dirkified says: Nov 28, 2011 3:55 PM

    dirty city.. dirty players..

  83. ahs2 says: Nov 28, 2011 4:18 PM

    The author, using “fair” in relation to his “columns” to the Detroit Lions, is laughable.

  84. souldogdave says: Nov 28, 2011 4:27 PM

    Dungy can be sanctimonious ,but he is on the money here. I mean, we all know Schwartz coached Haynesworth and ruined him. He is a pompous little man, as exemplified by the “Handshake” incident. And he is using Suh, badly.

  85. megatronownsyou says: Nov 28, 2011 4:44 PM

    “smooth”jimmy 3 of the 4 reasons that you give in support of your argument that our team is melting down involve a few individual acts by Suh and Jim Schwartz refusing to take disrespect from a total jagoff.
    Your logic is incredibly flawed and your statement that the Bears are going to go 4-1 with Caleb Hanie tells me all I need to know about your knowledge of football.

  86. gmen1987 says: Nov 28, 2011 4:57 PM

    Hope fully the Great Commissioner Goodell will suspend Suh for 4 games.

  87. easyeddie says: Nov 28, 2011 5:31 PM

    greenbay4ever says: Nov 28, 2011 1:58 PM

    I keep hearing all this talk that Suh is such a great player. I guess I am missing something. He is not leading in any categories that would indicate he is great. He wasn’t the Defensive player of the year last year and he won’t be this year. I don’t understand all the praise he gets. He is good and has potential but he doesn’t have the brains or the discipline that it will take . He is a dirty player, that he has proven.

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    Why did the Fudge Packers feel the need to double team him constantly if he isn’t a great player?
    Regarding his brains, Suh has a mechanical engineering degree and several of his scouting reports out of college all tout his intelligence on and off the field.

  88. smoothjimmyapollo says: Nov 28, 2011 5:33 PM

    Really Megatronownsyou? Who is going to beat the Bears? Green Bay will, but who else? How do you think Tebow will handle the Bears defense? Has Tebow beat a decent team yet or is he taking advantage of cupcake opponents? A good Bears defense and special teams is better than Kansas City who is good at nothing. The same can be said for the Seahawks and Vikings. Both teams are terrible, and the Bears can ride their defense, special teams and Forte to victory. Hanie sucks, but I’ll take him over Palko, Jackson, Tebow, or the 2011 version of Ponder. Even if the Bears go 3-2, the Lions still have to go 4-1 or risk being eliminated on tie-breakers. They can’t beat New Orleans. They can’t beat Green Bay. Playing in Oakland is a toss-up.

    I know you’re all excited because the Lions might finish with their first winning season in years, but they’re not that good. They’re decent, but they’re probably the 7th or 8th best team in the NFC.

  89. bringbacktheflex says: Nov 28, 2011 7:19 PM

    When the Lions lost their first game I was one of the first to say that the bubble had burst. And the wheels have definately come off the cart. I truly believe the Lions will find a way to fall out of the playoffs the last week of the season.

    Losing Suh is just the tip of the iceberg. The team is out of control and no one is impressed anymore.

  90. chucknorrisrules says: Nov 28, 2011 9:12 PM

    Chuck Norris thinks Tony Dungy might get a visit from Chuck Norris.

  91. kmart0319 says: Nov 29, 2011 8:48 AM

    Easyeddie:
    I didn’t say the NFLPA wants players hurt but they want and need a guy with that type of intensity out there. I guarantee that when his fine/suspension comes down. NFLPA will be out there appealing it with gusto while the rest of the world knows he should be fined/suspended.

  92. str82thepoint says: Nov 29, 2011 9:00 AM

    Imadirtyman Suh. Not sure why everyone is so hard on Dungy. The guy gets PAID to comment. Unlike the blowhards on this thread.

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