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Polian: “Of course” Manning and rookie QB can be on same team

Jim Calswell AP

Early this morning, before all hell broke loose in Jacksonville and Indianapolis, I was preparing to write a post on Bill Polian’s comments from his radio show Monday night.

A few hours later, Polian’s remarks remain compelling. And they will ultimately matter a lot more to the future of the Colts franchise than the decision to fire Larry Coyer as defensive coordinator.

Colts vice chairman Bill Polian said on the show via Stampede Blue that “of course you can” have Andrew Luck and Peyton Manning on the same team next year.

Polian has hinted around at this notion, but he’s never made the case so strongly. Polian pointed towards the new salary structure for first round picks making it feasible. He also mentioned Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers being on the same team for three years.

Polian said the team won’t make any decisions on a draft pick until April 2012, but Luck is “one of” the players they could potentially take.

Bob Kravitz of the Indianapolis Star disagrees, but we think keeping Manning and drafting Luck makes a lot of sense.

You have to take a franchise quarterback like Luck if you believe he’s the future.  You also can’t count on Manning staying healthy for one game at this point, much less a few years.

Manning has earned the right to continue his career with the Colts, if there is a career. What’s the worst that could happen from keeping both players?

It would be a very good problem to have two franchise quarterbacks if Manning somehow survived 2012 healthy and looking like the same old Peyton Manning.

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86 Responses to “Polian: “Of course” Manning and rookie QB can be on same team”
  1. djteknision1200 says: Nov 29, 2011 3:35 PM

    Sure they can,,but will they be happy??? That’s the real question.

  2. veence69 says: Nov 29, 2011 3:36 PM

    I’d love to see Luck give a giant middle finger to the Colts’ “Suck For Luck” crap by returning to Stanford for his senior year.

  3. golonger says: Nov 29, 2011 3:37 PM

    yeah…if they want to still have no defense and go 0-16 again…sure!!!

  4. bic05 says: Nov 29, 2011 3:38 PM

    Of course he’s going to say this, even if he’s going to trade the pick. If he admits that he can’t or won’t keep them both, then he loses leverage. If he intends to trade the pick in an attempt to ‘win now’, then a negotiating tactic is to show that you could do without the trade thereby posturing yourself for a better return.

    The only way to know whats going to happen with the pick is to wait until the draft.

  5. brutus9448 says: Nov 29, 2011 3:38 PM

    how do you know Luck will be a franchize QB without seeing him take a single snap in the NFL. You guys talk about Luck as if he’s already won 2 super bowls and has been to the playoffs 10 times.
    The colts tanking this year so they get the number 1 pick is another reason why the NFL should move to a lottery system like NBA.

  6. pleasantsurpriselefty says: Nov 29, 2011 3:39 PM

    That does it. If Colts have the first pick, Luck either stays in school or pulls an Elway. Polian is making a big mistake by talking about Luck when there is still a lot of football to be played. He’s such a whiner.

  7. freewayjim says: Nov 29, 2011 3:40 PM

    Get ready for a steady diet of this between now and the time the Colts have to make the $28 Million call on Manning’s option.

  8. tednancy says: Nov 29, 2011 3:40 PM

    No, the real question is this: how could you look your fans in the eye in 5 years and tell them that you passed on Luck just to keep the now-retired Manning happy?

    The Colts are going to take him, because they HAVE to.

  9. rayvens says: Nov 29, 2011 3:41 PM

    Its goin to be tough calling the worste coach of the yr…but it seems like the top (or bottom) 4 are fighting for it bad!

    4. Norv Turner
    3. Andy Reid
    2. Tom Coughlin
    1. Jim Caldwell

    Admirable mention; Sanahan and R.Morris

  10. cjspiller12 says: Nov 29, 2011 3:41 PM

    Again, from my previous post on the firing of Larry Coyer, this team should be fully investigated for throwing football games. Manning will never take another snap for the Colts.

  11. batyuki says: Nov 29, 2011 3:42 PM

    “Of course Manning and Luck WILL be on the same team next year”

    There, I fixed it for you Polian

  12. wutthecrapman says: Nov 29, 2011 3:43 PM

    Luck is already probably better than 10 starting QBs in the league and you’re going to prolong his wait?

    Why bother enter the draft then?

    I guess Peyton is bigger than the franchise.

  13. theslex says: Nov 29, 2011 3:44 PM

    Who cares if they are happy? They’re professionals. They should happily take their multi-million-dollar salaries and do their part to help the team win, starter or backup.

  14. umbskinsfan says: Nov 29, 2011 3:47 PM

    “if you have two quarterbacks, you really have none”

    I wonder what Madden would have to say about the 2012 Colts

  15. silvernblackpa says: Nov 29, 2011 3:48 PM

    The more I watch Luck this season, the more I think the Colts should take him and that it might be the best thing possible for him.

    Luck’s ceiling is virtually unlimited, but I’m starting to think even a year or two or three on the bench could be the best way to have him reach that talent.

    Watched a lot of PAC-12 football this year and the more I watch, the more I think Matt Barkley is actually the more Day 1 pro-ready prospect.

  16. freedomispopular says: Nov 29, 2011 3:48 PM

    Why don’t we see if he actually comes out for the draft first before we make any draft decisions.

  17. ampats says: Nov 29, 2011 3:49 PM

    Better question is if Polian Sr and Polian Jr still have any say in the Colts future. Peyton Manning does not play D and their D is awful. This team has few playmakers and no depth. By the way has anyone seen Dwight Freeney? Is he still on the Colts roster?

    Caldwell is probably the worst HC in the NFL. He was lucky to inherit Dungy’s team.

  18. laeaglefan says: Nov 29, 2011 3:50 PM

    You mean Curtis Painter is not going to be the Colts next franchise quarterback? Shocking!

  19. texastornado82 says: Nov 29, 2011 3:50 PM

    Please Andrew, pull an Eli, if they draft you.

  20. goindy2006 says: Nov 29, 2011 3:50 PM

    Can everyone else see the strings in this picture like me?

  21. transam7816 says: Nov 29, 2011 3:52 PM

    Everyone knows this was the plan all along. Nothing to see here.

  22. icanspeel says: Nov 29, 2011 3:52 PM

    After seeing the Colts play this year… if Manning is back next year it seems like they will need more than a #1 pick who will be a backup quarterback for awhile to help this team… A LOT more

  23. theandy59 says: Nov 29, 2011 3:54 PM

    The Colts are clearly in need of help all over the field. Paying Manning the kind of money his deal entails only makes sense if you think you’ve got a Super Bowl contender, which they’re not at the moment. So the way I see it, you trade the pick for a bevy of picks/players that will help Manning get the Colts back to the Super Bowl now, or you trade Manning for a bevy of picks/players and start the rebuilding process around Luck. It will take some balls to trade Manning, but that’s the best long-term plan for Indy.

  24. pastabelly says: Nov 29, 2011 3:55 PM

    Rosenthal, when you say “we think”, who is the “we”?

    Luck can take out a nice insurance policy and go back to school to play football for his senior year and get drafted by a team that won’t pay him $4M per year to sit on the bench behind Manning for three or more years.

  25. thecraigslistkiller says: Nov 29, 2011 3:55 PM

    I don’t know why Luck is labeled a guaranteed franchise QB.

  26. nflofficeadmin says: Nov 29, 2011 3:56 PM

    “Manning has earned the right to continue his career with the Colts, if there is a career. ” — No. Peyton is an epic player in the league, but no player has earned the right to play anywhere. It’s privilege, not a right.

  27. norcalchief says: Nov 29, 2011 3:57 PM

    What is the most valuable on-field commodity a team can have? Competent QB play. Why do great QB’s (and lately just servicable to moderately not too bad ones) get the big bucks? Because it’s so damn rare yto have a great one!

    The first pick in the draft MUST be Luck regardless of which team owns the rights to the first pick. If that means you trade down for several early round picks and let someone else take him -that’s fine, but it works that way precisely because of how rare “that” player is.

    It also makes a mountain of sense for the Colts to pick him themselves.

  28. rlr79 says: Nov 29, 2011 3:58 PM

    Sorry but it is Manning and his 27 mil guaranteed contract that will be on the outs before Indy takes Luck #1 overall. Not by trade (no one will trade for a 27 mil dollar maybe) but by cut. Manning will either play for the Colts for a reduced contract or some one else and given that the Colts are much further a way even with a healthy Manning then many other teams, he isn’t coming back. Just imagine what a healthy Manning could do with talented but QB needy teams like Seattle, Minnesota, Arizona and even Denver.

  29. projuice7 says: Nov 29, 2011 3:58 PM

    I hope the trade Manning, Luck is a bust and the Colts suck for a few more years.

  30. predicatepanda says: Nov 29, 2011 3:59 PM

    Why wouldn’t Polian say this? However, come April they will sell high and flip the #1 spot for a boatload of picks and try to build a more complete team that isn’t so reliant on one player.

  31. 3octaveFart says: Nov 29, 2011 4:01 PM

    veence69 says: Nov 29, 2011 3:36 PM

    I’d love to see Luck give a giant middle finger to the Colts’ “Suck For Luck” crap by returning to Stanford for his senior year.
    ——

    yeah, but next year he might wind up somewhere like Cleveland, or worse…

  32. pantherfan85 says: Nov 29, 2011 4:03 PM

    They can draft Luck and keep Manning, but you have to wonder how Peyton will respond. He’s going to be 36 in March and the team is going to use a #1 overall pick to get a QB rather than a skill player like Justin Blackmon, Alshon Jeffery or even Trent Richardson. Manning has to know that his window is closing and may even try to force a trade. All that said, I think the Colts have to take Luck. There are too many questions about Manning right now and the franchise needs to start thinking about the post Manning era.

  33. mefolts says: Nov 29, 2011 4:03 PM

    Peyton has always put the Colts ahead of himself. There is no reason to think he would “not let” the Colts draft Luck. The Colts will draft Luck. Peyton will help him with the learning curve. If he can play, he will start and then hand over the reigns and possibly become a coach.

  34. smoothjimmyapollo says: Nov 29, 2011 4:08 PM

    “Manning has earned the right to continue his career with the Colts, if there is a career. What’s the worst that could happen from keeping both players?”

    What’s the worst that could happen? How about when it’s time for Manning to step down, he could spitefully manipulate the system to play for a rival team which is a competent QB away from being a serious contender. Then, he can take his new team to the brink of the promised land only to blow the game leading them into a tailspin that has gone on for nearly two years, and which may not end until some time after the franchise is forced to leave town because they can’t conjure up support for a new stadium. That is the worst that could happen.

  35. 4gone says: Nov 29, 2011 4:12 PM

    Manning has demanded a contract which makes it really hard for the Colts to surround him with the talent necessary to have a shot at a title. Now you want #1 overall pick to be a second string QB. Even with change in Salary structure for top 10 rookies, still going to cost a pretty penny to sign him, then he and Manning can play for years together on a team that has no talent around them. Perhaps this strategy can get them both killed. So the real question is…who is going to be the 3rd string QB?

  36. matthewcarlson1 says: Nov 29, 2011 4:20 PM

    This is the perfect situation for everyone involved… Peyton can play for 2 more seasons and coach Luck.. and Luck will benefit from the coaching of a legend and then go in and be a football god… Peyton will be a great coach once he’s done playing.

  37. realnflmaster says: Nov 29, 2011 4:22 PM

    It’s actually hilarious how Indy is the only city where so many of their fans and media don’t want to take luck.

    Are you guys stupid? You do realize Peyton just missed an entire year with a serious neck injury and is almost 40? I mean lolololol, do you really want a defensive end or some crap and then when Peyton is done in two seasons watch Painter and Orlovsky get trot out there another 16 times and have another 0-16 season just because you all were so stubborn and stupid and didn’t want to hurt Peyton’s feelings?

  38. Wisconsin77 says: Nov 29, 2011 4:25 PM

    And just like Ted Thompson, when Polian is ready to get rid of Manning in favor of Luck, all he needs to do is hire Ari Flesher to orchestrate a smear campaign against Manning just like he did against Favre in order to get public opinion on Polian’s side.

  39. souldogdave says: Nov 29, 2011 4:26 PM

    Peyton has been many things, but he has never been stupid. The Colts need so much, defense, etc. that they won’t compete next year even with Peyton at his best, which he won’t be. Is it worth it to an already wealthy man to come back to this rag-tag team? Just to hold Luck’s hand for a while, with no hope of a ring? EXTREMELY DOUBTFUL.

  40. packfaninpackland says: Nov 29, 2011 4:30 PM

    “He also mentioned Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers being on the same team for three years.”
    ——————————-
    Two big differences with Manning and Luck though:

    1.) Rodgers was the #24 overall pick, Luck would be the #1 overall pick.

    2.) Rodgers’ rookie contract was a five-year, $7.7 million deal that included a $1.5 Million signing bonus – Luck on the other hand will likely get $24-40 Million depending on if it’s a 4, 5, or 6 year contract with a huge amount of it being a signing bonus.

    Are the Colts going to pay Manning $28 Million next year, and nearly as much to Luck in the form of a signing bonus if he signs a long term deal, and have $50 Million PLUS tied up in 2 QB’s in 2012 ??? Not likely.

  41. earthtopft says: Nov 29, 2011 4:30 PM

    There is a decent chance that Matt Barkley ends up being the first quarterback taken. I don’t think that Luck is a lock for top spot at all. Barkley has better natural tools, he just isn’t as advanced in his game at this point.

  42. uwsptke says: Nov 29, 2011 4:32 PM

    “Manning has earned the right to continue his career with the Colts, if there is a career. What’s the worst that could happen from keeping both players?

    It would be a very good problem to have two franchise quarterbacks if Manning somehow survived 2012 healthy and looking like the same old Peyton Manning.”

    Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. How soon we forget the circus around Lambeau Field during the transition from Favre to Rodgers in 2008.

    I’m not saying drafting Luck is the wrong thing to do (it’s definitely the right thing to do), but let’s not pretend this will all be wine and roses when the baton is ultimately forced to be passed from Manning to Luck. But it’s a much better situation than the 1980’s Steelers saying, “Schucks, guess we shoulda ignored Bradsaw saying he was healthy and drafted that Marino kid anyways.”

  43. jaggedmark says: Nov 29, 2011 4:34 PM

    What’s the worst that could happen from keeping both players?
    —————————————
    Losing 4/5 years from another HOF caliber player in the draft?

  44. SOBEIT says: Nov 29, 2011 4:34 PM

    #2-#10 picks should be happy with this years potential draft pool. There are some really good QBs entering the draft. It’s always hard to predict performance, but these prospects are pretty polished these days.

  45. skinsrock says: Nov 29, 2011 4:36 PM

    If your not taking Luck… You better get a king’s ransom in trade, move back & still take a QB of the future. I just don’t think a guy like Luck wants to sit behind anyone… I see him as a game 1 starter.

  46. mcjon22 says: Nov 29, 2011 4:37 PM

    Polian had either lost his edge or in denial. Green bay was very talented when they took Rodgers LATE in the first round. Indy has many holes with key free agents and aging veterans. You either cut Manning and use that money to fill holes, or you trade the top pick for a boat load of picks and surround Peyton with as much talent as possible. But the Rodgers/Favre Manning/Luck comparisons aren’t even comparing apples to apples. Totally different situation.

  47. httr73 says: Nov 29, 2011 4:38 PM

    If Manning can play he will either trade the pick or draft Luck and trade him. At this point, it’s about generating leverage so he can get the most value out of the trade.

  48. badtimeoutcaldwell says: Nov 29, 2011 4:38 PM

    Keeping them both makes the most sense… If Manning comes back and is healthy, then they’ll be Superbowl contenders AGAIN… even with all their flaws…

    If Manning gets injured, then in comes Luck and he takes over the reigns and we can see what he can do….

    I don’t see anything wrong with that scenario

  49. 808raiderinparadise says: Nov 29, 2011 4:39 PM

    OF COURSE THEY CAN!

    They could be a two-headed monster read-option passing attack.

    They can call is it the MAN-LUCKBONE offense

  50. badtimeoutcaldwell says: Nov 29, 2011 4:41 PM

    realnflmaster says:
    Nov 29, 2011 4:22 PM
    It’s actually hilarious how Indy is the only city where so many of their fans and media don’t want to take luck.

    Are you guys stupid? You do realize Peyton just missed an entire year with a serious neck injury and is almost 40? I mean lolololol, do you really want a defensive end or some crap and then when Peyton is done in two seasons watch Painter and Orlovsky get trot out there another 16 times and have another 0-16 season just because you all were so stubborn and stupid and didn’t want to hurt Peyton’s feelings?

    —————————————-

    What the heck are you talking about???! Who says that Indy doesn’t want to take Luck? Literally, post a reference of an article or anything where “Indy media or Indy fans” don’t want Luck.

    I love how you make up a false statement, and then rationale on how that statement doesn’t make any sense…

  51. righton989 says: Nov 29, 2011 4:41 PM

    Of course you can have Peyton and Ryan Leaf on the same team too. It would be a hoot if Luck’s ability in the NFL does Suck as bad as the #1 draft pick of the Chargers in 1998.

  52. ballergac says: Nov 29, 2011 4:41 PM

    How does Jon Gruden NOT get the HC job for the Colts.. he knows offense and a Qb guru… he’s fiery, just the shakeup the Colts need after laid back Dungy and Caldwell

  53. mcjon22 says: Nov 29, 2011 4:41 PM

    Also, has anyone watched Luck play? Yes he’s accurate and a great leader, heard the same things about Matt Leinhert too. I think he’s WAY overhyped and is far from a sure thing. Every time I see him play I think of a healthy Chad Pennington. Not terrible by any means, but not this franchise, one in every 25 year player everyone is making him out to be.

  54. nesuperfan says: Nov 29, 2011 4:42 PM

    I can just see the headlines: “Andrew Luck had opted to remain at Stanford…In other NFL news, Jim Caldwell was given a one-year extension today.”

  55. jackfnburton says: Nov 29, 2011 4:44 PM

    Well, I am not a physics major but I can’t think of any physical rules suggesting they can’t.

  56. forthelove says: Nov 29, 2011 4:47 PM

    Could you please name ONE other front office-person talking about the draft right now?!?!?! If they had any self-pride they’d be worrying about how to go 5-11 right now instead of posturing for the draft midseason. Ridiculous!

  57. jasonculhane says: Nov 29, 2011 4:49 PM

    If Manning retires, he will play again but for another team. By retiring, he’d be respectfull to the Colts I beleive versus hanging in there until the bitter end after they draft Luck.

    There’s no way he’s done and I don’t think he’s convinced he’s done or he would be out of sight out of mind. So, he’ll retire, the Colts will then not re sign him for the 28 million or so and I anticipate he’ll play for another team in a different division next year.

    He will need the whole offseason to condition, there’s no way he comes back to even practice this yearand I think retiring gives him the time to re condition then comeback and not be on anyone’s time frame but his own. But I just don’t think he’s done playing football.

  58. forthelove says: Nov 29, 2011 4:51 PM

    If Goodell can lay down the law on players for conduct detrimental to the league, shouldn’t he be laying down the law on the Colts for draft-posturing instead of trying to figure out how to win a game??

  59. peteycroubs says: Nov 29, 2011 4:51 PM

    I agree with one user. They will draft Luck, let him sit and learn from Manning for 2-3 years. Manning then becomes OC.

  60. forthelove says: Nov 29, 2011 4:52 PM

    nesuperfan says:
    Nov 29, 2011 4:42 PM
    I can just see the headlines: “Andrew Luck had opted to remain at Stanford…In other NFL news, Jim Caldwell was given a one-year extension today.”

    “… and Peyton Manning’s neck is still a little sore.”

  61. patpatriotagain says: Nov 29, 2011 4:54 PM

    he has no leverage anyway, because everyone knows that’s what he’s trying to do. it’s all a moot point. we will know what their draft strategy is before the beginning of the league year. there’s no way luck and manning are on the same team. there’s no way a team is going to allocate $28M to a single starting spot out of 22.

    he’s gone. good Luck.

  62. bulldogslc says: Nov 29, 2011 4:57 PM

    I honestly hope they draft Luck and keep Manning…then Peyton kick butt for 4 or 5 more years…about the length of Luck’s rookie contract….Free agency baby!! That’ll show ‘em!!

  63. gmen1987 says: Nov 29, 2011 5:07 PM

    theandy59 says:
    Nov 29, 2011 3:54 PM
    The Colts are clearly in need of help all over the field. Paying Manning the kind of money his deal entails only makes sense if you think you’ve got a Super Bowl contender, which they’re not at the moment. So the way I see it, you trade the pick for a bevy of picks/players that will help Manning get the Colts back to the Super Bowl now, or you trade Manning for a bevy of picks/players and start the rebuilding process around Luck. It will take some balls to trade Manning, but that’s the best long-term plan for Indy.
    ————————————————–
    It’s already been discussed. The Colts wouldn’t be able to trade PManning. They would have to cut him. Besides, no team other than Danny Boy Snyder’s Deadskins would trade a bevy of picks for a 36 year old QB coming off 3 neck surgeries.

  64. smoothjimmyapollo says: Nov 29, 2011 5:08 PM

    “And just like Ted Thompson, when Polian is ready to get rid of Manning in favor of Luck, all he needs to do is hire Ari Flesher to orchestrate a smear campaign against Manning just like he did against Favre in order to get public opinion on Polian’s side.”

    You’re delusional.

    Aaron Rodgers being good got the public on Ted Thompson’s side. Winning a Super Bowl with Rodgers got the public on Thompson’s side. Favre going on Greta Van Sustren saying his goal was to “stick it to Ted” got the public on Thompson’s side. Favre calling Matt Millen to give away strategy, Favre playing for the Vikings, Favre saying things like “real Packer fans would understand…,” Favre rooting against the Packers (see his advice to Julius Peppers), Favre’s backhanded compliments towards Rodgers, and countless other things Favre has done to make himself look bad have put the public on Thompson’s side. All Thompson hiring Fleischer did was highlight how Ted is incapable of normal human interaction.

  65. marcuswelby70 says: Nov 29, 2011 5:09 PM

    Most people here are assuming that the Colts would get a multitude of high draft picks for Manning. You seem to be forgetting that Manning is damaged goods, and old damaged goods at that. Peyton is also coming off an injury that could end his playing days at any time, and probably sooner than later. Also I’m sure most owners are aware that although he is a top 5 QB, Manning is under .500 in the playoffs (8W-9L) I think)…and that is not likely to get any better as he gets older. So before you get all giddy about draft picks, it might not be as good as you think.

  66. gmen1987 says: Nov 29, 2011 5:11 PM

    Wouldn’t this be defined as tampering? The Colts still haven’t secured the top pick in the draft and they already are openingly talking about Luck.

    Can you spell T A N K, boys and girls? We are not talking about a container that holds liquid/gas or an armoured vehicle used by armies.

  67. ppdoc13 says: Nov 29, 2011 5:12 PM

    If I am Andrew Luck, Indy is about the last place in the NFL nation that I would want to go. You never want to replace a legend. Rodgers replacing Favre is the exception not the rule.

    Indy is a small market with a poor fanbase. Hell, the Bears are as popular in Indiana as the Colts. They have been successful for the last decade because of the outrageous ability of their QB. Their drafting in the last few years has been poor. They have an aging team with few skill players to surround Luck. His endorsement money in the mid west will be garbage.

    If I were luck, I would pull an Eli Manning. Let the Polians know that you won’t play for them. Buy a big insurance policy and go back to school for your last year and hope for a better overall situation such as Miami etc. I just can’t see any good reason for Luck to want to play for the Colts. He will forever be compared to Manning which is only natural, but will be almost impossible to live up to. Besides, the owner is a goof ball and the front office is in disarray. Not the situation that a smart kid from Stanford would want to select.

  68. tatum064 says: Nov 29, 2011 5:43 PM

    Wondering if Luck will go back for his Senior year. Stanford hasn’t won a BCS National Championship and he could add to , and shatter his own records , and it could be a real problem “replacing a legend”.

    Depends who Miami gets in as head coach and GM, but I wouldnt really bet on Miami , either.

  69. mmcdan133 says: Nov 29, 2011 5:45 PM

    If Manning is healthy, there is NO WAY they can sell him on drafting a qb, when in his mind they should be using that pick to acquire assets to help him win.

    There’s only one historical precedent here, and that’s San Francisco with Joe Montana. You have to trade Manning to a QB hungry team who’ll give a haul of picks to help build around Luck. Heck, you could trade him to Kansas City just like Montana.

    Manning, Jamaal Charles, Dwayne Bowe, Steve Breaston, Jonathan Baldwin, Tony Moeaki…..that could be seriously frightening to line up against.

  70. anactualnflowner says: Nov 29, 2011 5:53 PM

    Signs that your team isn’t doing so hot: You’re answering NFL Draft questions in November.

  71. j0esixpack says: Nov 29, 2011 6:43 PM

    Given the new rookie salary cap a 1st round player NEEDS to play immediately to play his way out of his rookie contract and into a lucrative long term deal.

    By sitting behind a veteran franchise QB – a la Rogers on the bench behind Favre – in the day in age of the new CBA that effectively means Luck would have to willingly give up $30 million to $60 million to bide his time on the bench.

    For some reason I just don’t see that happening.

  72. lilrob10201 says: Nov 29, 2011 7:02 PM

    Why do people think that the Colts are sucking for Luck ? Its not like they planed for Peyton Manning to be injured.

  73. kd75 says: Nov 29, 2011 7:05 PM

    But what does Curtis Painter think about drafting Luck?

  74. Wisconsin77 says: Nov 29, 2011 8:08 PM

    @smoothjimmyapollo

    Not delusional at all, what I said is exactly how it happened, and long time and respected Packer columnist Jeff Christl agrees: groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.gb-packers/browse_thread/thread/4efe911e4e56c181/a8a3f81c18035c3b?lnk=raot&pli=1

    As far as Greta, how quickly you forget what drove that. It was Ted Thompson himself who struck first with that news conference where he laid out that exaggerated and skewed timeline (drafted by the same guy who lied to the Nation about WMDs in Iraq) about the events that led up to that point. I don’t blame Favre at all for feeling the need to defend himself against it.

    As far as his so called “backhanded” compliment, I think the fact that some people in Wisconsin were so quick to think it was backhanded were the same ones easily manipulated by Flesher’s smear campaign. Favre can’t say anything good about the Packers without sheep like you turning it into something it isn’t.

  75. j0esixpack says: Nov 29, 2011 8:18 PM

    lilrob10201 says: Why do people think that the Colts are sucking for Luck ? Its not like they planed for Peyton Manning to be injured.

    No one ever said they planned to Suck for Luck.

    But once you’ve lost your franchise QB on a team with limited depth, and have a 0% chance to win the Super Bowl, why wouldn’t you Suck for Luck?

  76. zonedogz says: Nov 29, 2011 8:51 PM

    If Manning doesn’t retire you can count on Luck orchestrating a trade by refusing to play for the Colts and end up in :
    a) Denver – you know Elway wants him as a Stanford alumnus and can “advise” him on how he worked the Colts over to land in Denver as the #1 overall in the ’80’s…
    b) SF- Harbaugh connection…
    c) Washinghton – Daniel Snyder could outbid anyone
    d) Miami – could package talent and picks to move up and get player they need and give Colts immediate help and still keep top 10 pick.

  77. norcal031 says: Nov 29, 2011 8:52 PM

    Is luck the only qb in the draft? they should do what san diego did and trade the pick and get a qb later. they need everything. luck will not solve the problems. he will be a rookie which means hes probably gonna struggle. You cant just say beacuse the red riffel is ballin that luck will.

  78. miamidolphins1 says: Nov 29, 2011 8:55 PM

    so the colts will have the 1st overall pick for the fourth time when the highest touted qbs were coming out – Elway, George, manning, now luck.

    obviously Elway snubbed them and George was a bust, but its a strange coincidence how this team always has the 1st overall in good draft years for qbs.

    in 15 years, when the next big QB comes out, they will probably have the 1st overall pick again.

    i hope the Polians and colt fans get snubbed by luck and have to suffer through many losing seasons.

  79. haywoodjablomee says: Nov 29, 2011 9:00 PM

    There should be an investigation by the NFL on the Colts throwing the towel in. It’s disgusting. On the other hand, Elway gave the Colts the finger, so maybe Luck will too.

  80. popolover says: Nov 29, 2011 9:46 PM

    The great OZ has spoken

  81. kinggw says: Nov 29, 2011 10:03 PM

    The Colts would be smart to move their pick. They have many more needs than qb. Furthermore there is no guarantee that Luck will follow in Manning’s footsteps. For all the talk about how great Manning is, part of the reason he succeeded is because what Indy had when got there. When Manning arrived they already had a solid left tackle in Tarik Glenn and a playmaker in Marvin Harrison. The Colts have already proven that it doesnt matter if you have the most talented qb prospect (Jeff George) if the team around him is crap. The Colts should be looking at Johnathan Martin, Kalil, Bradham, or even Morris Claiborne. Quarterback shouldnt be the priority.

  82. charger383 says: Nov 29, 2011 10:31 PM

    Can they still have player/coaches?

  83. duffer58 says: Nov 29, 2011 11:30 PM

    Anyone honestly believe Luck is going to be willing to sit behind Manning for even a year? No WAY

  84. durazor says: Nov 30, 2011 2:15 AM

    …of course they can afford both quarterbacks. Why do you think they aren’t signing anybody to help them win a game???
    So they can keep sucking for Luck.

    They’ve known a lot more than what’s been reported to the media and have had this all planned out from the beginning of the season.

    IT’S A CONSPIRACY I TELL YOU!!!!
    PLEASE NFL, INVESTIGATE THIS TRAVESTY!

  85. seahawkjon says: Nov 30, 2011 2:30 AM

    With a healthy Peyton, and Luck as golden trade bait,..they could pretty much have anybody they want to fill thier needs..cant see Luck wanting to ride the pine

  86. akulabug says: Nov 30, 2011 6:19 AM

    Talking about using the first pick in the draft while the league has five weeks to go. Way to compete Polian. Class act.

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