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Ryan Grant thinks a two-game suspension for Suh is “absurd”

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After seeing Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh stomp on one of his teammates, Packers running back Ryan Grant isn’t happy that Suh will be back on the field in two weeks.

“Do I think it needs to be longer? Yeah, I do,” Grant said on WSSP in Milwaukee, via SportsRadioInterviews.com. “I think it’s absurd. It was about as overboard as you can get what he did; it’s just not football. Can’t have that. It was ridiculous, and it’s not something you want to see regardless. I’m not a fan of the apology, I’m not a fan of what he said. Anybody in hindsight can say all that, but we’re talking about something that’s not exactly a first occurrence. There have been issues, there have been talks and communication with the commissioner and across the board.”

Suh will likely point out at today’s appeal hearing, however, that after the communication with the commissioner that Grant references, Roger Goodell praised Suh, writing on Twitter, “he has clearly made the adjustments to play consistently w/in the rules.” Suh could also point out that his ejection and two-game suspension is a much stiffer punishment than other players received for dirty plays: Grant’s teammate Charles Woodson was neither ejected nor suspended for punching Saints tight end David Thomas. Vikings defensive end Brian Robison was neither ejected nor suspended for kicking Packers guard T.J. Lang in the groin.

So while Grant is saying the punishment was too lenient, Suh is arguing that the punishment was too severe. The opinion that really matters is that of Art Shell, who’s hearing Suh’s appeal.

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  1. contra74 says: Dec 1, 2011 1:39 PM

    Ryan Grant thinks a two-game suspension for Suh is “absurd”
    ————
    How do you feel about Walden slapping his old lady around?

  2. buckhuckster says: Dec 1, 2011 1:39 PM

    What’s “absurb” is that somebody actually interviewed Ryan Grant.

  3. twitter:Chapman_Jamie says: Dec 1, 2011 1:40 PM

    No doubt about this, Suh needs to be suspended for the year. That guy is an habitual offender and has progressively gotten worse as he has gotten away with things.

  4. salvaje50 says: Dec 1, 2011 1:42 PM

    Ryan grant’s season stats are absurd

  5. xxwhodatxx says: Dec 1, 2011 1:42 PM

    I don’t agree in any way what he did but that was no stomp,he barely grazed him. I think 2 games is decent.

  6. lembeck4 says: Dec 1, 2011 1:42 PM

    Ryan is right, Suh was way out of line and deserves proper punishment. Just like Charles Woodson got when he punched a guy in the balls after a play……..wait…..what? Woodson was neither fined nor suspended, and in fact not even penalized.

    Ok, seems fair.

  7. Humboldt High Life says: Dec 1, 2011 1:43 PM

    Tack on an extra game for whining about it.

  8. George Berry says: Dec 1, 2011 1:43 PM

    ART SHELL?!

    He’s just going to call time-out and announce a decision on Tuesday.

  9. lacharger2112 says: Dec 1, 2011 1:44 PM

    Suh has a history of this type of crap. I don’t believe the others mentioned have the same history.
    Did Goodell have to have special talks with Woodson and Robinson before their actions you described?

  10. kingmj4891 says: Dec 1, 2011 1:44 PM

    Ryan Grant needs his head examined he looks either high or concussed in that picture and his words are just out right nuts. I hope this whole Suh thing has the pack so distracted they lose to the Giants this week.

  11. tos420 says: Dec 1, 2011 1:44 PM

    Whoever told Suh he has grounds for appeal should fined and suspended.

  12. skinsrock says: Dec 1, 2011 1:44 PM

    So, a person should lose more than 2 game checks for losing his temper & not hurting anyone? This is football not sock monkey…. Maybe they should try to play hockey & find out what real retaliation is.

  13. jimmysee says: Dec 1, 2011 1:44 PM

    Grant can his own (clean) shots at Suh when the Packers play the Lions at Lambeau later this month.

  14. bigjdve says: Dec 1, 2011 1:45 PM

    The argument Suh uses is apples and oranges.

    The other incidents didn’t included using the ground as a cudgel nor stomping a player while on the ground. The only acceptable comparison would be with Haynesworth stomping Gurode while he was on the ground.

  15. rascalmanny says: Dec 1, 2011 1:47 PM

    I agree. Suh should have been out for the rest of the year.

  16. andyreidisfat says: Dec 1, 2011 1:47 PM

    I am not huge on long suspensions because in the end they hurt the fans. That being said. Suh should be sat for the rest of the season. Don’t get me wrong I am a huge suh fan. But he needs to be taught a real lesson so we don’t have another guy in the nfl who is out of control. The kid needs to be punished. IMO he did basicly the same thing that fat al did and fat al got 5 . If it was a one time thing I might be cool at 2, but this guy is one thing after another since he came into the nfl. He has tried to clearly injure players quite a few times now. It’s time he sat.

    Either way I hope he atleast sits two games and hopefully learns from his mistake. If suh can get his head straight he can be the greatest dt of all time, he has that kinda talent

  17. vikesfansteve says: Dec 1, 2011 1:49 PM

    Robison should have had a 1 game suspension & Suh 3.

  18. oren120 says: Dec 1, 2011 1:50 PM

    Maybe Ryan Grant should spend more time on not being injured every 4 days and picking up more than 3 yards per carry.

    I’m sick of hearing everyone’s opinion on Suh. If he’s so hated, why is he leading all DTs in Pro Bowl voting?

    Bring on the thumbs down.

  19. righton989 says: Dec 1, 2011 1:51 PM

    Not to worry Ryan, Coach Schwartz will make sure that Psycho Sue does not miss his regular dose of ‘roids so that when he returns he will be as fierce as ever.

  20. bunjy96 says: Dec 1, 2011 1:53 PM

    It better not be reduced!

    Should have been at least 3 games. Haynesworth got 5, but he stomped on the guys head.

  21. Peter Venkman says: Dec 1, 2011 1:53 PM

    Charles Martin is still awesome.

  22. sellout3871 says: Dec 1, 2011 1:54 PM

    His fine should go directly into the pocket of the guy he stomped!

  23. daysend564 says: Dec 1, 2011 1:54 PM

    Shell was a dirty player and coach himself. Suh couldn’t have gotten a better arbitrator. Suh will sit out one game.

  24. elgaffo says: Dec 1, 2011 1:55 PM

    I guess he has to answer the questions asked him, but does no good to sound off on Suh. Wont change anything, just focus on the NYG.

  25. wegogreenbay says: Dec 1, 2011 1:56 PM

    What’s the success rate of suspension appeals? 2% at best?

    Let’s move on from this garbage and look forward to enjoying another victory on Sunday.

  26. waggs12 says: Dec 1, 2011 1:57 PM

    I think Ryan Grant’s skills as a running back are absurd. When he becomes commissioner, he can suspend Suh for the rest of the year. Until then, he needs to shut up and work on getting better at what he’s being paid millions of dollars to do.

  27. ndallasruss says: Dec 1, 2011 1:57 PM

    Ryan Grant should apologize for being completely irrelevant – averaging 28 ypg this season.

  28. sbelig says: Dec 1, 2011 1:58 PM

    Ryan who?

  29. packerstexansfan says: Dec 1, 2011 1:58 PM

    It’s not that his is too severe. It’s that the others’ weren’t severe enough. Woodson and Robison should’ve both been ejected, but I believe neither should have been suspended. Although you can make a case for a kick in the groin to be 1 game suspension. And it may be my bias showing, but I don’t believe Woodson deserved a suspension. From what I remember, it wasn’t a very big punch. And also, since he got to GB, he cleaned up his act, and that was very out of character for him since he’s been there. Back on topic, Suh’s was just bad. Not only does he bash his head to the turf, 3 times at that, but then also kicks him while he’s down. Don’t forget Haynesworthless got 5 games for his stomp. And though this wasn’t as bad as his, the severity is closer to Fat Albert, than it is to Woodson/Robison.

  30. sergisbauer says: Dec 1, 2011 1:58 PM

    Suh has been trying with all his might to establish a bad boy image, He shouldn’t be surprised if that means the league is harder on him for dirty play. You reap what you sow, Suh.

  31. bozosforall says: Dec 1, 2011 2:01 PM

    When Grant’s teammate Charles Woodson gets HIS suspension for punching the Saints WR in the ‘nads, then maybe the NFL can give Suh more games off. Until Grant lobbies for this, he has no leg to stand on.

  32. granadafan says: Dec 1, 2011 2:01 PM

    Ryan Grant is 100% correct. Goodell embarassed himself by saying Suh has “made the adjustments to play consistently w/in the rules”. We don’t know that because we haven’t seen him in another game yet. Suh talks but his dirty and classless actions do not reflect his words. He’s like an abuser he keeps smacking his kids and wife around but promises he’ll “never do it again”.

  33. rmc1995 says: Dec 1, 2011 2:04 PM

    How many more offensive players are going to lift their skirts and show how scared they are to face Suh on the field? Of course Ryan Grant thinks he should be suspended for more games. Heck, any opposing player should say it if it means they can get away with holding Suh or get a cheap 15 yards on a hit that is legal but was too violent for the weak stomachs of fantasy football players worried about their roster. I take more stock in what Mean Joe Green has to say than Ryan Grant.

  34. koolbreeze7 says: Dec 1, 2011 2:06 PM

    What would happen to the Packers if Charles Woodson get suspended right now for what he did to the Saints TE (The punch)?

  35. uwsptke says: Dec 1, 2011 2:10 PM

    lembeck4 says:
    Dec 1, 2011 1:42 PM
    Ryan is right, Suh was way out of line and deserves proper punishment. Just like Charles Woodson got when he punched a guy in the balls after a play……..wait…..what? Woodson was neither fined nor suspended, and in fact not even penalized.

    Ok, seems fair.
    ================================

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. 1) Woodson “punched” Thomas in the stomach, nowhere near his groin. 2) Woodson was flagged and fined.

    When did this nonsense that Woodson punched a guy in the groin begin?

  36. ishallcomment says: Dec 1, 2011 2:13 PM

    I miss the 07′ Ryan Grant… the one who actually tried, and wasn’t content to just run into blockers and fall down.

    >:[

  37. rmc1995 says: Dec 1, 2011 2:14 PM

    Any person who thinks a weak kick to the arm deserves more punishment than a kick to the sack either doesn’t have a sack, has never been kicked in the sack, or has extremely sensitive arms that make you feel like you are going to throw up when kicked in the arms.

  38. castleofcheese says: Dec 1, 2011 2:18 PM

    lembeck4 says:
    Dec 1, 2011 1:42 PM
    Ryan is right, Suh was way out of line and deserves proper punishment. Just like Charles Woodson got when he punched a guy in the balls after a play……..wait…..what? Woodson was neither fined nor suspended, and in fact not even penalized.

    Ok, seems fair.
    ——————-
    Woodson was fined $10k. he probably should have been fined more, but check your facts before you post.

  39. lks311 says: Dec 1, 2011 2:21 PM

    packerstexansfan says:
    Dec 1, 2011 1:58 PM
    It’s not that his is too severe. It’s that the others’ weren’t severe enough. Woodson and Robison should’ve both been ejected, but I believe neither should have been suspended. Although you can make a case for a kick in the groin to be 1 game suspension. And it may be my bias showing, but I don’t believe Woodson deserved a suspension. From what I remember, it wasn’t a very big punch. And also, since he got to GB, he cleaned up his act, and that was very out of character for him since he’s been there. Back on topic, Suh’s was just bad. Not only does he bash his head to the turf, 3 times at that, but then also kicks him while he’s down. Don’t forget Haynesworthless got 5 games for his stomp. And though this wasn’t as bad as his, the severity is closer to Fat Albert, than it is to Woodson/Robison.
    __________________________________

    Well, at least you’re honest…you are showing bias. We’re all biased to some degree. Suh’s stomp was, on par, no worse than Woodson’s punch—in that neither opponent was actually hurt as a result of. And, when I think of “bash”, I’m thinking of someone’s being raised off the turf and slammed back into it. More like, three hard pushes of a distance of around four inches. So, punishment and perception seem directly related to fandom.

  40. gregm5s7 says: Dec 1, 2011 2:22 PM

    The comparison between what Woodson did compared to Suh is rediculous. Woodson has a long track record of clean performance, the guy was blocking him well after the play, 1st game of the season emotion was running really high. He took FULL responsibility for it after the game like a man.

    Suh has a track record of trying to rip people’s heads off well after the play, and is on the equivalent of probation after the talk with Goodell. He was slamming dietrich-smith’s head against the ground and stomped on him with a spiked cleat, akin to a weapon. After the game he denied, denied, denied like a 7 year old kid.

    And you can rip on Ryan Grant all you want for this year’s numbers. MJD is having a good year on the 3-8 Jaguars

  41. dmartin17 says: Dec 1, 2011 2:24 PM

    2 games is a looong time in the NFL. Not to mention its kind of 2.5 games including the ejection.

  42. rmc1995 says: Dec 1, 2011 2:28 PM

    The severity of something should be measured in real damages not what if scenarios. Therefore the severity of Suh’s kick is more in line with the severity of Robinson and Woodson. Equating Suh with Hanesworth is like saying an asteroid that flies 200,000 miles from the earth is as severe as a hurricane.

  43. gordyb7 says: Dec 1, 2011 2:29 PM

    So Ryan Grant has an opinion on this issue? No doubt he’s completely unbiased, playing on the Green Bay offense and all.

    The real question is…How long of a suspension do Nick Fairley and Kyle Vanden Bosch think Suh should serve?

  44. packerbacker12 says: Dec 1, 2011 2:35 PM

    “Woodson was neither fined nor suspended,”

    Woodson was fined $10K, pal.

  45. gwahknows says: Dec 1, 2011 2:36 PM

    What would happen to the Packers if Charles Woodson get suspended right now for what he did to the Saints TE (The punch)?

    *****************************

    They would win the Superbowl.

  46. trey14jewels says: Dec 1, 2011 2:37 PM

    @koolbreeze7

    The Packers win another Super Bowl, that’s what.

  47. i3addog says: Dec 1, 2011 2:40 PM

    Should have been the rest of season with his prior acts of BS. Ryan Grant is right. Susie will be back in Goodells office very soon trying to explain his way out of another infraction.

  48. threedeep1998 says: Dec 1, 2011 2:40 PM

    Walden is a saint then right? C’mon Grant

  49. FANof28 says: Dec 1, 2011 2:44 PM

    Suh would have a legitimate arguement if he wasn’t already known to be a dirty player, and if he hadn’t already been in trouble for playing dirty. Robison has had no prior incidents, and although it was very dirty what he did it doesn’t necessarily warrent a suspension and woodson’s play, also dirty, wasn’t a result of habitual behavior. Suh can argue, and obviously will, but the results should stay the same.

  50. section24 says: Dec 1, 2011 2:48 PM

    Ryan Grant has been injured so often that he could have been suspended and it wouldn’t have impacted the Packers.

  51. m2karateman says: Dec 1, 2011 2:50 PM

    A football cleat is NOT a weapon. That’s just a ridiculous statement. It’s plastic or hard rubber, not sharpened metal. Second, the “slamming” of his head? Suh was pushing down on his HELMETED head, not even an inch off the ground. Please, get a grip. Guys going flying at each other at 20 mph and go helmet to helmet, that’s a cause for concern. Someone pushing down on that helmet is not even felt. There’s was no injury, no damage. Like it or not, the punishment has to be based on that. It’s like the person who shoots someone else. The crime is punished based on the results, not simply the intent. 2 games is a fair punishment. Shell shouldn’t reduce it.

  52. trapshoot says: Dec 1, 2011 2:51 PM

    To say it wasn’t a stomp because he pretty much missed him is ridiculous. Suh deserves more than the two game suspension given his inclination to dirty plays and lack of ability to acknowledge his behavior.

  53. jeffchadwick says: Dec 1, 2011 2:55 PM

    Woodson on the Saints punch:

    “I lost my cool,” he said. “The guy was blocking me and holding me and I’m trying to get off him. I just lost my cool. That’s all on me.”

    At least we now know where Matthew Stafford learned his blocker shedding technique.

  54. thewassabi says: Dec 1, 2011 2:55 PM

    Wait Suh was suspended for grazing Eric’s arm i thought he was suspended for violently driving his head into the ground 4 times. Hello!!!

  55. metalhead65 says: Dec 1, 2011 2:57 PM

    I see lions “fans” are out in force today. stop using other incidents when trying to justify keeping your cheapshot artist in the lineup. the other guys were first time offenders and owned up to thier actions and offered a apology that was not written by the team unlike sue. plus sue is a repeat offender. it just shows how stupid he is to do something like that after meeting with the comish. to have the rules spelled out for him. it was not just the heat of the moment he knew what he was doing! he had gotten away with everything else with a slap on the wrist so why would he expext it to be different this time? if they reduce it then that is telling him amd everyone else it is ok to be a dirty player.

  56. leroy36 says: Dec 1, 2011 3:01 PM

    contra74 says:
    Dec 1, 2011 1:39 PM
    Ryan Grant thinks a two-game suspension for Suh is “absurd”
    ————
    How do you feel about Walden slapping his old lady around?

    ===========
    Walden’s “old lady” is claiming she started the fight and slipped and fell. Walden has not been charged with anything as yet.

  57. heyguru1969 says: Dec 1, 2011 3:03 PM

    Grant’s just pissed off because he’s serving a 16-game suspension for being overrated and unable to break tackles anymore. Another star of my fantasy debacle 2011.

  58. johngaltwho says: Dec 1, 2011 3:09 PM

    Ryan Grant should just keep his mouth shut and focus on playing football. As a player, he should focus on his own game and not make public statements about the play of his opponents.

    On the other hand, we the fans have far less insight and nothing really at stake so we should all express our opinions as often and as loudly as possible recognizing that the only person who really cares about a publicly expressed opinion is the guy expressing it.

    Two games seems about right to me.

  59. 3ghostninja says: Dec 1, 2011 3:13 PM

    Wait — is he talking about the actual play or the video that over the top Taiwanese company came up with making fun of the incident?

    I understand it was wrong, but you can’t go overboard in classifying it. It was one incident. You have to include all the bogus fines before this to say there’s a pattern.

    Serve the suspension and be done with it. I’m over it by now. The self righteousness is getting a bit sickening at this point.

  60. glunsty says: Dec 1, 2011 3:17 PM

    “Stomped” is such an exageration. “Kicked at” is the true description of what happened. Here’s my test. Stomping would crush a beer can (see Haynesworth). What Suh did would dent the side of a beer can and spill it. Watch the video. I’m right.

    He will be suspended one or two games. Sounds about right.

  61. caffeene says: Dec 1, 2011 3:19 PM

    Forget Woodson, how about Brian Robison from the Vikings. He kicked a Packer in the junk and got no suspension. Which is worse!

  62. mbd3126 says: Dec 1, 2011 3:29 PM

    I am sick of all the arguments against Suh. The reality is that he has 3 (yes, only 3) dirty plays (including the one at GB). All others were legal plays that called for penalties, but wouldn’t have been if that player was on a different team. The other reality is that every team in the league would take Suh on their team and then all their fans would defend/support him.

    I believe Suh should be suspended and two games seem appropriate. My biggest problem is the inconsistency of the penalty calls (ie horse collar and illegal hands to the face) and the enforcement of fines and/or suspensions. I am all about safety and I think the first rule that should be enforced is the equipment. Helmets fly off because only one snap on each side is fastened or it is too loose. Knee pads??? Hip pads??? Butt pad???

    Maybe all the money collected for these illlegal hits should go towards research to make a better helmet to reduce the occurrence of concussions. That seems to be the biggest safety concern. Let’s address the real issues and forget about the fan fair surrounding Suh, Harrison, etc.

  63. brett76 says: Dec 1, 2011 3:29 PM

    Best part of all this is….Suh is the LEADING VOTE GETTER FOR DT’s IN THE NFC PRO BOWL OTING

    wow people can;t hate him to bad when the pro bowl is voted on by the coaches, players & fans, yet he will be a starter in the game….

  64. beedubyatoo says: Dec 1, 2011 3:36 PM

    Doesn’t make any difference if Suh is suspended for Sunday’s game or not. The only way the Lions beat the Saints is if Brees gets suspemnded prior to the game.

  65. gcsuk says: Dec 1, 2011 3:36 PM

    “I think it’s absurd. It was about as overboard as you can get what he did; it’s just not football. Can’t have that. It was ridiculous, and it’s not something you want to see regardless.
    ———————————————————————-
    Finally! Someone used the word “regardless” properly instead of “irregardless”. I’m speechless!

  66. george4136 says: Dec 1, 2011 3:48 PM

    lembeck4 and bozosforall and anyone else saying Woodson punched the Saints player in the balls, watch it on youtube. Maybe the Saints player’s balls grow out of his stomach…I don’t know.

    But know what the f you’re talking about and quit trying to sound smart.

    Sure woodson’s punch was unsportsmanlike and he probably should have been ejected. But you cannont compare it to Suh.

  67. stellarperformance says: Dec 1, 2011 3:50 PM

    contra74 says:
    Dec 1, 2011 1:39 PM
    How do you feel about Walden slapping his old lady around?
    ————————————————-

    We’ll let you know how we feel….if it ever happens.

  68. stellarperformance says: Dec 1, 2011 3:53 PM

    koolbreeze7 says:
    Dec 1, 2011 2:06 PM
    What would happen to the Packers if Charles Woodson get suspended right now for what he did to the Saints TE (The punch)?
    ————————————————-

    That punch wouldn’t have dented a marshmallow. I’d be willing to bet the “victim” wouldn’t even had known the “punch” had occurred unless someone showed him the video.

  69. dontrunfromme says: Dec 1, 2011 3:58 PM

    Who’s Ryan Grant? I didn’t know green bay had any running backs.

  70. nickster2k says: Dec 1, 2011 4:00 PM

    Suh got two games because Buck made a HUGE deal about it on a nationally televised game. Otherwise, probably just a fine.

    The media dictates the fines– Goodell just does what he has to do to placate them.

  71. kevpft says: Dec 1, 2011 4:00 PM

    rmc1995 says:
    Dec 1, 2011 2:28 PM
    The severity of something should be measured in real damages not what if scenarios. … Equating Suh with Hanesworth is like saying an asteroid that flies 200,000 miles from the earth is as severe as a hurricane.

    So you’re not big on the concept of “attempted murder”? Or the many other crimes of attempt? Please, don’t allow yourself to sit on any juries, for everyone’s sakes.

    Not saying that Suh tried murder, but I think what you try to do should factor in heavily. A little stumble or shove, and he’s stomping on a face. Suh put someone at risk. No sympathy here.

  72. theytukrjobs says: Dec 1, 2011 4:02 PM

    People are quick to point out that Woodson wasn’t suspended for punching another player, but they ignore that Woodson is a more highly regarded player on a more highly regarded team. The Packers are involved in a lot of punches/kicks/etc but they are never to blame and shouldn’t be.

  73. jimmylions says: Dec 1, 2011 4:04 PM

    The fines clearly mean nothing. Theoretically, all the fine money goes to charity, so the penalty imposed by fining a player is intended to help charities while getting the player’s attention.

    How about switching to a community service model? Instead of paying fines, players have to perform XX number of hours of community service for NFL charities. This would eliminate the inequitable impact of the fines (issuing the exact same fine to players with star sallaries as players with minimum contracts), while still serving the goal of helping charities while getting a player’s attention. In fact, having to cough up time may get their attention quicker than coughing what amounts to chump change for spoiled kids with millionaire sallaries.

  74. rmc1995 says: Dec 1, 2011 4:15 PM

    Woodson wasn’t suspended or kicked out because he hadn’t had a recent history of personal fouls. Woodson plays a position that is rarely ever called for personal fouls. Suh is around a QB about 40 snaps a game. QBs are openly protected by the NFL and tell refs to be overly cautious and Suh has been a target of that protection. The chances of Suh being held happen on every play not so much for Woodson . So the fact that Woodson went off because he was getting held shows he has a way shorter temper than Suh.

  75. thetwilightsown says: Dec 1, 2011 4:18 PM

    Meanwhile… Terrelle got 5 games for doing… what again… before he was in the league?
    Yeah, message loud and clear.

  76. packmanfan says: Dec 1, 2011 4:24 PM

    Bringing up Charles Woodson: What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

  77. howiehandles says: Dec 1, 2011 4:24 PM

    Difference between the Suh and Walden incidents, one is an offense that is to handled by civilian authorities, as it happened off the playing field, and the other, to be handled by the NFL, as it happened ON the field.

    However, the stomp was no worse than Suh’s head tackle of Culter, but only being dealt with because it happened in front of a massive TV audience on Thanksgiving.

  78. packmanfan says: Dec 1, 2011 4:25 PM

    And let’s not forget the pushing on the helmet/head into the turf before the stomp which tends to get overlooked by the media.
    That plus the stomp plus the lack of remorse with a lame justification/lie should have been more than a 2 game suspension.

  79. bradshawlives says: Dec 1, 2011 4:28 PM

    Suh in 2011: 3 sacks, 0 forced fumble, 0 fumble recoveries, less than 3 tackles per game. How will the Lions survive the next two games without all that production?

  80. johngaltwho says: Dec 1, 2011 4:33 PM

    If by “around a QB” you mean on the same field, then Suh was in fact around Rodgers on almost every snap. If you mean close enough to touch him, the only QB he was around in that game was Stafford.

  81. easyeddie says: Dec 1, 2011 4:35 PM

    mbd3126 says: Dec 1, 2011 3:29 PM

    Helmets fly off because only one snap on each side is fastened or it is too loose. …………………………….Maybe all the money collected for these illlegal hits should go towards research to make a better helmet to reduce the occurrence of concussions.
    ———————————————–

    Or a better chinstrap!

  82. cgalaxy says: Dec 1, 2011 4:47 PM

    oren120 says:
    Dec 1, 2011 1:50 PM

    “I’m sick of hearing everyone’s opinion on Suh. If he’s so hated, why is he leading all DTs in Pro Bowl voting?”

    ==================================

    Because Pro-Bowl voting is about how good of a player he is, not how dirty or cheap he is. Pretty simple, actually.

  83. rmc1995 says: Dec 1, 2011 4:52 PM

    johngaltwho says:
    Dec 1, 2011 4:33 PM
    If by “around a QB” you mean on the same field, then Suh was in fact around Rodgers on almost every snap. If you mean close enough to touch him, the only QB he was around in that game was Stafford.

    How many yards did Rogers have in the first half? He released everything quickly and that killed his accuracy. Even on the play that Suh got kicked out, it was incomplete because Suh was collapsing the pocket. Have some football intelligence. The Lions defense is better this year yet Suh doesn’t have as many sacks. Try to use your mind and figure out why.

  84. judsonjr says: Dec 1, 2011 4:54 PM

    I’m a Packer fan, and in the grand scheme of things I feel like an ejection/fine was probably all that was needed. Maybe add to that a stipulation that if he has another incident in the next year, the fine/suspension will be 2x-4x what it would normally be.

    Suh should be careful though as he seems to be going down the Chris Hovan road. i.e. The amount of talk coming out of his mouth is inversely proportional to the quality of performance on the field.

  85. dpndots says: Dec 1, 2011 4:55 PM

    AS DO I. ALBERT HAYNESWORTH STOMPED ON THE FACE OF ANDRE GURODE IN A GAME AGAINST THE COWBOYS BACK IN ’06. THAT LEAD TO AN EJECTION, A 15-YARD PENALTY AND A 5 GAME SUSPENSION.
    SURE, SUH DIDN’T GIVE ANYBODY 30 STITCHES BUT SINCE THIS INCIDENT IS NOT A FIRST OFFENSE, I DON’T THINK MISSING TWO GAMES IS ENOUGH OF A ”PUNISHMENT”
    THANK YOU.

  86. rmc1995 says: Dec 1, 2011 4:55 PM

    packmanfan says:
    Dec 1, 2011 4:25 PM
    And let’s not forget the pushing on the helmet/head into the turf before the stomp which tends to get overlooked by the media.
    That plus the stomp plus the lack of remorse with a lame justification/lie should have been more than a 2 game suspension.
    ___________________________________

    On almost every pancake block an offensive lineman will sit on him and keep the defenders head down when he tries to get up. You know why they do this? Because it is legal to push on a helmet as long as it is not the face mask at the line of scrimmage. There is no illegal hands to the head. You can also tackle the helmet as long as you don’t grab the facemask. It looks big and bad and mean, but that’s football.

  87. chris6523 says: Dec 1, 2011 4:59 PM

    IDK, I’m a packer fan and I can’t say I agree with Grant. Over the last 30 years, Suh’s 2 gamer is only the third multi game suspension for an on the field incident. Fat Albert got 5 for the Gurode thing and Charles Martin got 2 for spiking Jim McMahon (probably would have been more had not 3/4 of the country been happy about it). Given that it is really hard to get even a 2 game suspension and nearly unprecedented to get more, I would say a 2 gamer is appropriate and I wouldn’t complain if Shell reduced it to a single game.

  88. easyeddie says: Dec 1, 2011 5:04 PM

    packmanfan says:
    Dec 1, 2011 4:25 PM
    And let’s not forget the pushing on the helmet/head into the turf before the stomp which tends to get overlooked by the media.
    That plus the stomp plus the lack of remorse with a lame justification/lie should have been more than a 2 game suspension.

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    The push on the helmet! Oh how horrible and devastating was that? It’s overlooked because it should be overlooked. Packer fans are embarrassing.

  89. easyeddie says: Dec 1, 2011 5:07 PM

    judsonjr says: Dec 1, 2011 4:54 PM

    Suh should be careful though as he seems to be going down the Chris Hovan road. i.e. The amount of talk coming out of his mouth is inversely proportional to the quality of performance on the field.
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    Suh is among the best linemen in the league and is consistently double teamed.

  90. tiffpats4eva says: Dec 1, 2011 6:08 PM

    The packers really are a classy organization.

  91. polegojim says: Dec 1, 2011 6:19 PM

    Ryan – you’ll get see to him in a few weeks.

    Approach him on the field of play.

    Look him in the eyes.

    Let him know how you feel.

    Be a man about it.

    We’ll watch what happens.

  92. mikewhorio says: Dec 1, 2011 7:11 PM

    When I read the headline I assumed it meant he thought he should have gotten less. More than 2 games (2 1/2 actually)? Really? REALLY?

    People need to get over this.

  93. ahs2 says: Dec 1, 2011 7:49 PM

    rmc1995 says:
    Dec 1, 2011 2:14 PM
    Any person who thinks a weak kick to the arm deserves more punishment than a kick to the sack either doesn’t have a sack, has never been kicked in the sack, or has extremely sensitive arms that make you feel like you are going to throw up when kicked in the arms.
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    That may be the greatest post I’ve ever read, LMAO!!!

  94. ahs2 says: Dec 1, 2011 7:52 PM

    cgalaxy says:
    Dec 1, 2011 4:47 PM
    oren120 says:
    Dec 1, 2011 1:50 PM

    “I’m sick of hearing everyone’s opinion on Suh. If he’s so hated, why is he leading all DTs in Pro Bowl voting?”

    ==================================

    Because Pro-Bowl voting is about how good of a player he is, not how dirty or cheap he is. Pretty simple, actually.

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    Tebow is now 4th for AFC Quarterbacks…your argument has vanished.

  95. bdblue says: Dec 1, 2011 9:27 PM

    tiffpats—seriously can you come up with anything more unoriginal?? I am so sick of people overusing “stay classy” or any other variation of the term. Idiot.

  96. fairleyobvious says: Dec 2, 2011 8:42 AM

    Ryan Grant is still in the NFL?

  97. alwaters9 says: Dec 2, 2011 9:55 AM

    It seems that a lot of players have no trouble piling on, trying to get an advantage. In addition to all of the Suh stuff, Aaron Rogers complains about KVB? Anything to plant a seed.

    Well boys, what goes around comes around. Soon the “going for history” Packers will be accused of getting favorable whistles and non-calls. They play as dirty as any team in the NFL and get away with it. And the Lambeau leap should be penalized every time it is performed.

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