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The Eagles continue to search for rock bottom

Seahawks' Lynch runs across the goal line past the Eagles' Samuel for a touchdown during their NFL football game in Seattle Reuters

Here’s what we learned Thursday night, wondering how much lower this Eagles season can go. 

1. Vince Young kneeled down, trying to control his emotions, stunned by the gut-punch of a pick six he had just thrown. Young’s fourth quarter interception essentially ended Philly’s chances of winning Thursday night.  At least Young appeared to care about Philadelphia’s 31-14 loss to Seattle.

2. Thursday’s game seemed to be about effort. Both teams entered the game at 4-7, but the game meant more to Seattle. They fought for every play.

The NFL Network said the Eagles’ season was on the line at one point, but Philly’s season was over weeks ago. The Eagles played like they knew it. You don’t get to 4-8 through bad luck.

3. Marshawn Lynch was in full Beast Mode with 148 yards and two touchdowns. Even his one-yard gains were hard-fought battles. The Seahawks have found an identity with a strong defense and Lynch’s running.

4. Young will get the blame because he threw four interceptions. He wasn’t sharp, but this was a full team meltdown. Riley Cooper dropped passes, one of them leading to an interception in the red zone. DeSean Jackson appears to have lost interest.

Philadelphia’s defense can’t tackle anyone. They gave up big plays to Lynch, Ben Obomanu, Michael Robinson, Golden Tate, and Doug Baldwin. This isn’t exactly the Patriots offense they were facing.

5. Tarvaris Jackson said this game on a short week was about attitude. Jackson deserves credit for his accuracy too. He made great decisions on third downs, often under pressure. He only had three incompletions in 16 attempts to go with 190 yards and a score.

6. I’ve said for a few weeks that this Seahawks team is better than last year’s playoff squad. They have a strong defense that stops the run and can make plays in the secondary. Jackson has steadily improved overall. Lynch is running better. Pete Carroll has slowly built this team up, especially on defense.

7. It’s going to get worse for the Eagles before it gets better. This team is headed for ten losses or more. Their record may be so bad, the Eagles can draft Michael Vick’s replacement in the first round.

8. The vitriol in Philadelphia may be tough for the Eagles ownership to handle, no matter how much they want to keep Andy Reid.

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  1. trbowman says: Dec 1, 2011 11:45 PM

    This is a good Seattle team. If they had a QB, I’d really wonder what they could do. They’re great at finding diamond in the roughs like Browner and Baldwin.

    Get a QB in the draft and look out.

  2. trbowman says: Dec 1, 2011 11:46 PM

    I had my face in my hands when Mayock compared McCoy to Sanders.

  3. gcsuk says: Dec 1, 2011 11:46 PM

    If “rock bottom” is the bottom of the NFC East, then they have found it!

  4. roadtrip3500 says: Dec 1, 2011 11:46 PM

    Eagles.
    Fork.
    Done.

  5. KIR says: Dec 1, 2011 11:48 PM

    I don’t see why you all have a problem with Desean Jackson. The last FOUR YEARS Jackson has been a top 5 receiver. Top 5 receivers make about 10 million A YEAR!

    Jackson has played 4 years on a second round contract for less than 4 million. This year Jackson is only making 600k. I guess he’s finally playing at the level of his current pay rate. “shrugz”

  6. lilrob10201 says: Dec 1, 2011 11:49 PM

    As an Eagles fan for 12 years I have never seen such a mess on this team.Seeing droped balls , missed tackles,alot of turnovers and it goes on.All I can say is this season is done and lets hope for a better year next season.I am the only Eagles fan that had that feeling that we would have a bad season by signing all these free agents and putting a o-line coach as a D-cordinator.I will still cheer for this team no matter if they lose the rest of the games this season.GO EAGLES!

  7. eaglesandflyers says: Dec 1, 2011 11:50 PM

    This team has no heart. The Seahawks wanted it more.

  8. buffalion says: Dec 1, 2011 11:50 PM

    DeSean is doing an excellent Randy Moss impression.

    Stop caring when you or the team aren’t playing well.
    That’ll win you plenty of suitors.

  9. db3300 says: Dec 1, 2011 11:51 PM

    What happened to all of the fanboys who kept telling us that Vince “just wins games”?

  10. citynative says: Dec 1, 2011 11:51 PM

    The Dream Team was 1-3 vs the NFC West this year!

  11. lilrob10201 says: Dec 1, 2011 11:51 PM

    We are garbage this year and I believe that there will be a big change in this offseason that will do nothing but make this team better.

  12. lookatthefarside says: Dec 1, 2011 11:52 PM

    Im hoping The Failgles and The Walrus will be watching Tony Robbins on Betamax.

  13. phillyphever says: Dec 1, 2011 11:52 PM

    To the national media: still think Andy’s coming back next year after that debacle tonight?

  14. trbowman says: Dec 1, 2011 11:52 PM

    “I don’t see why you all have a problem with Desean Jackson. The last FOUR YEARS Jackson has been a top 5 receiver. Top 5 receivers make about 10 million A YEAR!”

    Jackson was never a top five receiver. A top five playmaker at receiver, but never a top five receiver. He’s a one trick pony. Maclin is the better receiver.

  15. thejuddstir says: Dec 1, 2011 11:53 PM

    It use to be said that the Eagles, whether winning or losing, were a “team”…..now it is a roster full of “me, me, me”. Free agency can get you “star power” but that doesn’t equate to “team power”. The Eagles demise started when they signed M. Vick, just like it Atlanta, he wanted it to be about him. DJax wants it to be about him. Maclin knows he’s more valuable than DJax but doesn’t get the cred. Andy Reid lost control of this team the day he signed M. Vick.

  16. trbowman says: Dec 1, 2011 11:53 PM

    This Seahawks team reminds me a lot of last years Browns. Not very talented, but scrappy, a team that will outfight you. Love that. Carroll has those guys fighting.

  17. db3300 says: Dec 1, 2011 11:55 PM

    “I don’t see why you all have a problem with Desean Jackson.”

    Based on what I saw tonight, “you all” seems to include his employer, coaches, and his teammates. So, be careful about spreading those “you alls” around too liberally.

  18. gcsuk says: Dec 1, 2011 11:55 PM

    KIR says:
    Dec 1, 2011 11:48 PM
    I don’t see why you all have a problem with Desean Jackson. The last FOUR YEARS Jackson has been a top 5 receiver. Top 5 receivers make about 10 million A YEAR!

    Jackson has played 4 years on a second round contract for less than 4 million. This year Jackson is only making 600k. I guess he’s finally playing at the level of his current pay rate. “shrugs”
    ———————————————————–
    Do you just cut and paste the exact same comment for every Eagles story? This is the 3rd story so far today with the exact same comment. Can you try to spice it up a little? It’s getting kind of old.

  19. jeffro33 says: Dec 1, 2011 11:56 PM

    This Eagles’ fan hopes that rock bottom is 4-12…

    Vince Young is the face of the Eagles’ 2011 season: began with all talk, ending with utter failure and stupidity…

    However, all haters take your shots now. This team will rebound in 2012.

  20. trollhammer20 says: Dec 1, 2011 11:56 PM

    Lynch running behind a young, improving offensive line, a receiving corps with Rice, Miller, Baldwin, Williams, and Tate, and a big, physical defense.

    Seattle is missing two things:

    1) A true franchise QB.
    2) A pass-rush threat other than Chris Clemons.

    Get those two things, this team could do some serious damage. They are already a tough out. Think Bears fans wouldn’t rather be playing St. Louis or Arizona in two and half weeks?

  21. hanktheking says: Dec 1, 2011 11:58 PM

    Do the Eagles know or care that an offensive line coach rubs their defense? Further more, why doesn’t that same coach know how to stop the run? You would think an O-Line coach would at least know how to stop the other teams O-line.

  22. mikehockhurtz says: Dec 1, 2011 11:58 PM

    Rob Ryan next Eagles head coach….

    You heard it here first

  23. phillysuxbigd says: Dec 1, 2011 11:59 PM

    this is just too funny!!!!!

  24. benh999 says: Dec 2, 2011 12:00 AM

    Hahahah. VINT Young.

  25. goblue714 says: Dec 2, 2011 12:00 AM

    The eagles are the greatest 4-8 dream team ever. I’m pretty sure vince young is close to his 100 million dollar deal with his performances. Can you say dream team QB?

  26. nomoreseasontix says: Dec 2, 2011 12:00 AM

    I’m not a Vince Young fan but I felt bad for him. He’s not a very good QB in the first place, and he sure didn’t get much help.

    DuhSean has had his day. It won’t be long before he’s back in the hood, talking trash to someone while he’s hiding behind his crew.

  27. Steelerbear78 says: Dec 2, 2011 12:01 AM

    If the Eagles are the “dream team” is the dreamer in a coma?

  28. lbijake says: Dec 2, 2011 12:01 AM

    The Eagles could not win an intra-squad game.

  29. cfh666 says: Dec 2, 2011 12:02 AM

    This team plays uninspired…starts with the coach. Oh yeah, but there is not a better coach on the market for 2012…really?

  30. shootahcowboy says: Dec 2, 2011 12:02 AM

    Cry Eagles Cry
    On the road to misery…

    How ’bout that Bad Dream Team?

    Ok, now that is out of my system…

  31. mwcarolina says: Dec 2, 2011 12:02 AM

    If “rock bottom” is the bottom of the NFC East, then they have found it!
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    sadly (as a skins fan) they wont get that far if Grossman shows bad Rex vs. the Eagles.

  32. hcf95688 says: Dec 2, 2011 12:02 AM

    Dream Team!

  33. descendency says: Dec 2, 2011 12:03 AM

    With a Cowboys win, the Eagles will be mathematically eliminated.

  34. dickshotdogs says: Dec 2, 2011 12:04 AM

    Look no further.

  35. vincentbojackson says: Dec 2, 2011 12:04 AM

    For those of you bird lovers keeping score:
    Seahawks are tougher than Ravens, Eagles and Cardinals (3 of their 4 wins) but apparently not as tough as Falcons (1 of their 7 losses).

  36. mmmpierogi says: Dec 2, 2011 12:04 AM

    gcsuk says: Dec 1, 2011 11:55 PM

    KIR says:
    Dec 1, 2011 11:48 PM
    I don’t see why you all have a problem with Desean Jackson. The last FOUR YEARS Jackson has been a top 5 receiver. Top 5 receivers make about 10 million A YEAR!

    Jackson has played 4 years on a second round contract for less than 4 million. This year Jackson is only making 600k. I guess he’s finally playing at the level of his current pay rate. “shrugs”
    ———————————————————–
    Do you just cut and paste the exact same comment for every Eagles story? This is the 3rd story so far today with the exact same comment. Can you try to spice it up a little? It’s getting kind of old.

    *********************************************************

    Baffling how the moderators on here permit people re-post the same message on multiple articles, but then they’ll kill reasonable, thought-out responses for no reason.

  37. Tim says: Dec 2, 2011 12:05 AM

    Looked like Reid and Mudd had a spat on that 4th down play in the third as well he’s completely lost his staff and team. Really sad as an eagles fan.

  38. lookatthefarside says: Dec 2, 2011 12:06 AM

    The Eagles are a premature wet dream team…

  39. db3300 says: Dec 2, 2011 12:09 AM

    “However, all haters take your shots now. This team will rebound in 2012.”

    Blah, blah, blah, rebound, blah, blah, blah.

    Rebound implies that you have something to rebound to. Last season, the Eagles played over their heads and this season is closer to where they really are.

    Eagle fans’ definition of a rebound: getting back to winning some regular season games so that we can lose in the playoffs and continue to have no rings to show for it.

  40. anonymouslyanonymouscommentor says: Dec 2, 2011 12:10 AM

    This is a no-brainer for the Eagles management: fire Reid and make Howard Mudd head coach.

  41. thefiesty1 says: Dec 2, 2011 12:11 AM

    Wait until next year! That’s what a lot of teams say every year. I think their fans are the real dream team.

  42. norcal031 says: Dec 2, 2011 12:11 AM

    Cry eagles cry hit the road poor Andy Reid!!!
    Suicide watch for VY and a high security detail for Andy Reid!

  43. lookatthefarside says: Dec 2, 2011 12:12 AM

    lol Did anyone see that fan throw the ball with the pen and PC threw the football back and kept the pen during the postgame interview?

  44. slickmarine says: Dec 2, 2011 12:13 AM

    @KIR: Don’t you remember DeSean’s outrageous showboating the last couple years? Running parallel to the end zone to rub his return in the Giant’s face? The premature victory dance at Cowboy Stadium? I could go on and on about this Most Arrogant Punk, but it would get repetitive. He signed a contract, man; when it’s completed, he can sign another — and, if he does well his contract year – he scores megamillions. But the p*ssy wants to whine and cry and O GREATEST OF SINS IN PROFESSIONAL ANYTHING – quit on his teammates. TOs an ass, but he delivers. DeSean is everything we hate about professional athletes and, brother, he’s in for a big surprise….

  45. gmen5280 says: Dec 2, 2011 12:15 AM

    Was Vince Young Teblowing after throwing that pick 6?

  46. turrrds says: Dec 2, 2011 12:17 AM

    The Eagles are a mess. They need help everywhere. Hopefully, this offseason they can sign some key free agents that will make a big impact. That usually works.

  47. mikehockhurtz says: Dec 2, 2011 12:18 AM

    Hey Asohmunga….how’s that decision working out for ya…

    Could have been half way decent in Rob Ryans system instead of an offensive coordinators system…

    Glad the Boys didn’t over pay for you….

  48. hoggy301 says: Dec 2, 2011 12:20 AM

    Too funny

  49. techvet says: Dec 2, 2011 12:23 AM

    DeSean Jackson *did* help the Packers get to the playoffs last year with his punt return against the Giants.

  50. kingufr says: Dec 2, 2011 12:26 AM

    When Tavaris Jackson is the best QB in the stadium, the game probably should not be in primetime…just sayin

  51. vmannj says: Dec 2, 2011 12:27 AM

    DeSean Jackson never turns his head around to find the ball on a deep route..C’MON, MAN!

    DeSean Jackson fails to extend himself on any pass thrown over the middle…C’MON, MAN!

    DeSean Jackson steps out of bounds because he doesn’t want to get hit…C’MON, MAN!

    DeSean Jackson ignores Vince Young on the sideline…C’MON, MAN!

    DeSean Jackson throws his hands up and jumps out of the way instead of blocking down field for McCoy…C’MON, MAN!

    Teams lining up to hand DeSean Jackson big bucks in free agency next year…(crickets chirping softly…)

  52. lilrob10201 says: Dec 2, 2011 12:28 AM

    There are alot of Vick haters out there.
    H-having
    A-anger
    T-towards
    E-everyone
    R-reaching
    S-succsess.
    Vick got a good contract for playing good now everyone is hating him.

  53. mikehockhurtz says: Dec 2, 2011 12:30 AM

    Smiles….

    Cowboys fans everywhere

  54. vmannj says: Dec 2, 2011 12:30 AM

    KIR says:Dec 1, 2011 11:48 PM

    I don’t see why you all have a problem with Desean Jackson. The last FOUR YEARS Jackson has been a top 5 receiver. Top 5 receivers make about 10 million A YEAR!

    ==================================

    True, top 5 WRs (C. Johnson, A. Johnson, L. Fitzgerald) make $10M a year. But top-5 WRs also catch 100+ balls a year…not 50.

  55. richm2256 says: Dec 2, 2011 12:31 AM

    After listening to all those insuffurable Eagles fans in the pre-season, I am thoroughly enjoying this complete meltdown of that franchise.

    Talk NOW, Iggles fans????

  56. jcdavey2011 says: Dec 2, 2011 12:32 AM

    the eagles…..the chargers of the nfc

    the chargers…..the eagles of the afc

    who will hit rock bottom first!

  57. fatfreddystubbs says: Dec 2, 2011 12:34 AM

    Don’t worry, Eagles fans (at least about 75% of the Eagles fans that comment here): You lost in the first round of the playoffs at home last year, you’re a dumpster-fire this year, but at least you can go to the posts from earlier today about Donovan being released and yell “SEE, WE WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG”.

    Yeah, you’re so much better off!

  58. touchdownsyndrome says: Dec 2, 2011 12:39 AM

    I really miss mad5555 and 7to10for6 because they were quite vocal back in August. I guess they don’t stick with their team when they play as terrible as their fans act. Sure I know plenty of decent Philly fans, but the preseason tough guys have really disappeared. I can’t imagine how many lombardi trophies they have already won this year on their Xbox once they realized that linebackers are kind of important.

  59. keephatinghaters77 says: Dec 2, 2011 12:45 AM

    Eagle fan here and I must say what a DISAPPOINTING season but one thing I’d like to say all you haters keep hating cause yes our Eagles are horrible this season but we ride the ship to the end unlike a lot of you fans who would have put your gear away and bashed your team…Real fans cheer win or lose and im one of them..So keep hating and I’ll keep cheer…GO EAGLES!

  60. jbraxton3rd says: Dec 2, 2011 12:46 AM

    The Eagles are a team that is so unprepared!!!!!! No wonder they can’t win.

  61. tokyosandblaster says: Dec 2, 2011 12:49 AM

    Well, I see the Eagles have followed up shady’s prediction of “running the table” with two losses.

    Most impressive.

  62. dolphins4 says: Dec 2, 2011 12:51 AM

    Vince Young will be bagging groceries at Walmart next year.I used to think he was a good QB but after watching him the past 2 weeks I can see why the Titans got rid of him.

  63. dvdman123 says: Dec 2, 2011 12:52 AM

    It’s hard to believe Vegas had these guys as one of the favorites to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. Heck I couldn’t believe they were actually favored against Seattle……WTH?
    Anyway it’s time for a change. These guys are no longer drinking the kool-aid Andy Reid is making.

  64. oaktown49er says: Dec 2, 2011 12:57 AM

    Heart or no heart… Vince Young’s block on that McCoy run was awesome. I saw the hit live and when it was replayed, I couldn’t believe Young was responsible.

  65. usetabe says: Dec 2, 2011 1:00 AM

    How much gum was Pete Carroll chewing? Looked like a cow chewing her cud. Had to be about 3 packs of Juicy Fruit in that yap of his.

  66. trollhammer20 says: Dec 2, 2011 1:07 AM

    Word is out now that Russell Okung suffered what could be a serious injury very late in the game. Seattle players and coach Carroll said the Eagles targeted him and cheap-shotted him.

    If that’s the case, Philly is a garbage team in more ways than their W/L record would indicate.

  67. Andre's Johnson says: Dec 2, 2011 1:08 AM

    A few thoughts:

    1) Seattle’s a spunky team; a couple good players away from being truly competitive.

    2) Maybe all the Vince Young honks in Houston will shut the eff up now.

    3) Redskins > Eagles

    4) Of all sports, football requires – no, DEMANDS – team chemistry. There’s no sport that hinges on so many moving parts and so many different roles. Eagles players clearly don’t like each other, don’t like their coaches, and don’t care much about winning at this point. If I were an Eagles fan, I’d be pissed as hell.

  68. MadDog Rickles says: Dec 2, 2011 1:16 AM

    sha-na-na-na, na-na-na-na, hey-ayyyyyy goodbye!!!!!

  69. goldrush36 says: Dec 2, 2011 1:28 AM

    trbowman says:
    Dec 1, 2011 11:45 PM
    This is a good Seattle team. If they had a QB, I’d really wonder what they could do. They’re great at finding diamond in the roughs like Browner and Baldwin.

    Get a QB in the draft and look out.

    trbowman says:
    Dec 1, 2011 11:53 PM
    This Seahawks team reminds me a lot of last years Browns. Not very talented, but scrappy, a team that will outfight you. Love that. Carroll has those guys fighting.

     +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    complete contradiction dude. Why am i not surprised?
     

  70. 92and94and51and56 says: Dec 2, 2011 1:32 AM

    How long before Jeff Fisher’s phone starts to ring or the Bill Cowher rumors start?

  71. tonystrong says: Dec 2, 2011 1:32 AM

    I was 1oo percent behind Andy Reid keeping his job another year but after tonight, that percentage is shrinking with every loss. And it’s not just the losses, it’s the way they’re losing. This could be another Jeff Fisher moment. That moment where you just realize it’s time to move on!

  72. phillysuxbigd says: Dec 2, 2011 1:35 AM

    was vince young crying on the sideline after throwing his 8th interception in his last 3 games?? only 1 more to catch up to Vick. pathetic!!!!

  73. phillysuxbigd says: Dec 2, 2011 1:37 AM

    *1 more game until he catches up to Vick

  74. gberg09 says: Dec 2, 2011 1:48 AM

    Brett Favre rules. Skol.

  75. drbob117 says: Dec 2, 2011 1:50 AM

    They have to let Reid go at this point. The team has quit, the coaches are feuding, the personnel decisions have been absurd , and left them without NFL caliber safeties, LB’s, and WR’s that just don’t want to make an effort. I’m afraid though that ownership is so bad that they’ll never win anything as long as these guys own the team. I’m a diehard Eagles fan, but this team has no future, and no chance.

  76. plummetingstar says: Dec 2, 2011 1:55 AM

    This team is pretty much garbage, and this is coming from a die-hard Eagles fan. Deep down I know that firing Reid would solve so many problems, and there are a ton of good coaches that would kill for that job. But it would take a few years for Vick to get comfortable in a new system, and by then he would be on the down slope. It’s a lose-lose situation.

    There is no doubt that Reid will never outgrow his brain disorder, he’s an idiot. You try to stick up for the guy, then he makes his oline coach his new d coordinator. They would have been better off keeping McDermott.

    It’s very clear now that the lockout destroyed Reid’s chances, he needs an entire offseason to make his horrible roster passable. And by horrible roster I really only mean the LBs and Safeties. Who would have thought those would be crucial positions? If they do nothing else but clear out those positions, replace them proven veterans, and find a D Coordinator who is not a total POS, then I’ll love their chances.

  77. staffordsyear says: Dec 2, 2011 2:04 AM

    Wow,the eagles really blow! I’m not pickin em again this year.

  78. CowboyErik says: Dec 2, 2011 2:41 AM

    KARMA is everything. . . . .

  79. localbandhero says: Dec 2, 2011 2:50 AM

    As a Cowboys fan, I actually almost feel bad for the Eagle fans. Heck, a lot of my friends root for them and I don’t even enjoy making fun of them about it anymore because they’re just so depressed and dejected.

    Really though, if I’m Philly (which, thankfully, I’m not), I let MeSean Jackson walk. No heart, no will. He has been giving up on plays and half hearting things all season long. Alligator arms? HA! He just curdles into a ball before the pass even gets to him. He’s T.O. 2.0, except without the physical presence (which means, unlike T.O., he won’t have much staying power).

    Vick’s also gotta go. He does OK, but his style of play is bound to lead to injuries and a short career. Too bad he just picked up a whopper of a contract.

    But hey, who am I to hope for these things to happen, I say rot in the basement for a few more years (errr…well, maybe get above the Redskins, because they’re just awful.)

  80. yevrag3535 says: Dec 2, 2011 2:55 AM

    Eagkes stink, Skins suck, giants blow, cowboys pusseys, so the whole division is not worth a plumb nickle. Fire Reid, Shanahan, Coughlin and the idiot garrot an get ome real people in that whole division to make it the best it omce was,,,,The league would pick up ;ilkr nrvr brfore,,,,,, moe tv revenue , sales ,,,salesa…sales….

  81. minnysoda says: Dec 2, 2011 3:13 AM

    A dream to some a nightmare to others.Don’t ever use the Viking’s model of FA spending to win the Lombardi they have certainly proved it doesn’t work

  82. bossplayer213 says: Dec 2, 2011 3:24 AM

    I actually have a heart, so I felt really bad for Vince Young after that pick 6. I never like to see a human being down on themselves like that.

  83. njmiller3 says: Dec 2, 2011 3:28 AM

    I appreciate some of the Seahawks love here…. Watching sportcenter, you wouldn’t realize the Hawks played a great game, all you hear about is how the “dream team” blows… east coast bias is unreal…

  84. KIR says: Dec 2, 2011 3:37 AM

    trbowman says: Dec 1, 2011 11:52 PM

    “I don’t see why you all have a problem with Desean Jackson. The last FOUR YEARS Jackson has been a top 5 receiver. Top 5 receivers make about 10 million A YEAR!”

    Jackson was never a top five receiver. A top five playmaker at receiver, but never a top five receiver. He’s a one trick pony. Maclin is the better receiver.
    _________________________________

    A one trick pony who was double teamed every game? Sorry, but I saw him go over the middle PLENTY can you say concussion. How many of those did he take for the team? PAY DA MAN!

  85. KIR says: Dec 2, 2011 3:40 AM

    @gcsuk
    @mmmpierogi

    I guess that means you two are fans of mine and agree with my comments. Let’s say it together.

    PAY THE MAN!

  86. mlmeier says: Dec 2, 2011 3:57 AM

    As angry as I was with VY’s performance, watching him take that kneel down after the pick-six….I couldn’t help but feel some sympathy. The play not only officially knocked the team out of the playoffs (not that they had much of a shot to begin with), but also knocked out any hopes he had of starting again for another team. He may even have some trouble finding a back-up job after the way he’s played recently, and that’s a tough reality check for a guy who was once a 3rd overall pick, Offensive Rookie of the Year, and two-time Pro-Bowl selection, not to mention all his college accolades.

    It’s a shame that DeSean will still end up with the better (or at least more lucrative) career than Vince even that Vince gave it his all and DeSean showed no interest in playing that game. Truly appalling effort by a kid with exceptional potential.

  87. childressrulz says: Dec 2, 2011 4:29 AM

    NFC East might be the worst division in profootball right now.

  88. jtylert says: Dec 2, 2011 4:32 AM

    Let’s say for a moment that the T-Jack isn’t injured and he gets to play against the Browns and the Hawks win by scoring one single touchdown. Let’s say that without that injury he’s able to make a couple more throws, toss on the move with confidence, etc etc and they win against the ‘Skins last week.

    They’re at 7-5…

    Obviously this is a total hypothetical for nothing other than gazing at the ceiling day-dreaming… but 7-5 doesn’t look half bad.

    They’re one sore-titty and a Whitehurst start away from 7-5.

    I can hear it echoing as I type it. Gives me a bit of a smile for next season. We don’t HAVE to find a franchise QB next year. Let’s get a pass rusher. Let’s get a running back that can take over for Marshawn when he goes downhill from taking 5000 hits per game (I like Forsett and Washington, but… come on.)

    I’m not saying that the Hawks SHOULDN’T take a potential franchise level QB if one is available (and with games left against the Rams and Card’s, that’s looking less likely), but I’m just saying it probably wouldn’t be the biggest blow in the world if it doesn’t happen.

    ramble ramble ramble

  89. TheWizard says: Dec 2, 2011 4:47 AM

    Too bad. Reid has this team in contention most years, but the Vick decision is going to seal his fate.

    He obviously knew when to drop McNabb, but not who to replace him with, and Vince has become a turnover machine.

    If I owned this team I would keep Reid and clear out some players.

    But that’s not the way of things in the NFL.

  90. petehemlock says: Dec 2, 2011 5:14 AM

    When Vince said Dream Team, who knew he was thinking about Freddie Kruger.

  91. mmcdan133 says: Dec 2, 2011 5:23 AM

    I feel bad for Lesean McCoy. He’s playing his heart out.

  92. wrossi81 says: Dec 2, 2011 6:03 AM

    At least this game exposed some of the reasons that people in Philly are calling for Andy Reid’s head – the LONG drive in the 3rd/4th quarter, the leisurely drive with 6 minutes to go down by 10 (which ended in an pick-6), timeouts in the 3rd quarter and with 8 minutes to go in the 4th – this is a man who could manage a clock if his life depended on it. He is just an awful game day coach and needs to be in a job where all he has to do is prep work.

    I felt bad for the few Eagles players who seemed to have their heads in this mess of a game. Young had his heart in it but he wound up cementing his backup status for the rest of his career with those interceptions.

  93. liltmac2003 says: Dec 2, 2011 6:05 AM

    I agree about Young not taking full blame, because the entire EAGLES team seemed to just not play 100%. It was weird, thay just didn’t seem to have that ‘winning vibe’ type of feeling.

    I’m also surprised that DeSean Jackson isn’t getting more news that simply being stated at the end of the fourth statement.

    I mean literally this guy didn’t care to the fullest. Besides the obvious when Young was talking to him and he had a blank gaze into bliss, he seemed so disinterested. How in the WORLD do you act like this when you got to play 60 minutes of football???

    There was one specific play that just even made me pissed and I’m not an Eagles fan. It was when Jackson was lined up on the left and his route was running straight. He had no effort whatsoever. Vince Young looked at him for a good 2-3 seconds and DeSean did his thing…NOTHING.

    Seriously, these facts can’t be denied. Sure DeSean is upset over a contract, but to the point where your running a damn play and don’t put ANY effort?

    There’s giving up, and there’s DeSean Jackson.

  94. hardmike57 says: Dec 2, 2011 6:24 AM

    HeeHeeHeeHeeHeeHeeHeeHeeHeeHeeHeeHeeHeeHee…………………………..The Eagles are a “nightmare, not a dream”.

  95. vipod4ever says: Dec 2, 2011 6:34 AM

    Nnamdi spent 8 loosing seasons in Oakland…..which doesn’t even come close to “this” loosing season in Philly.

  96. lockoftheweak says: Dec 2, 2011 6:35 AM

    Dream Team?

    More like a Team of Dreamers.

  97. tombrookshire says: Dec 2, 2011 6:45 AM

    Bad luck my a**. Bad play, bad coaching, no effort, no heart, no teamwork. Reid’s time is up and Lurie will bring him back over loyalty to a guy who has made him a lot of money. Reid, true to his stubborn nature will refuse to see his time in Philly is long over and he and we are both ready for someone new and some energy. Reid is running a country club down there and almost everyone is taking advantage of it. The days of doing whatever you feel like and pissing off the football gods by making an O line coach and DC are over. Andy, time’s ours now. Just go.

  98. rugdaniels says: Dec 2, 2011 6:50 AM

    The Eagles are the worst dream team since the Ewing family.

  99. mvpolamalu says: Dec 2, 2011 7:14 AM

    At least Young appeared to care about Philadelphia’s 31-14 loss to Seattle.

    Coughdeseancough

  100. ham1 says: Dec 2, 2011 7:21 AM

    flap flap flap
    little egirls
    no superbowl for you.
    ever.

  101. localoutlaw says: Dec 2, 2011 7:29 AM

    Dennis Green is the top candidate to replace Andy Reid

  102. seatownballers says: Dec 2, 2011 7:33 AM

    Vick is always hurt. Offensive line is average at best. The linebackers cant tackle. Nnamdi has been useless all season. Desean is a distraction. Entire receiving core cant catch. The defensive schemes are bad. Eagles fans are brutal. Time to throw in the towel

  103. 00reo says: Dec 2, 2011 7:56 AM

    rock bottom? Keep starting Vince and you’ll find it

  104. moochzilla says: Dec 2, 2011 8:05 AM

    As Roth said in Godfather II…

    “This…is the life…we have chosen”

    Eagles chose to keep Reid through the last several years of declining performance.

    Reid chose to make his offensive line coach the DC.

    Management chose to poke their diva WR with a stick by not paying him like a top WR. Then they paid Steve Smith $4M to further aggravate the situation.

    Castillo chose to run the Wide 9 despite having weak LB’s and safeties. He chose to put Nnamdi in a soft zone scheme.

    Roseman chose 2 drafts (2010 and 2011) and got very little out of them. Numerous mid-level picks already cut, none are impact starters. Few can even get on the field.

    Andy chose to go back to his pass-happy ways, only realizing last night that McCoy needs to be the focal point of the offense.

    Reid also chose to cut Akers and go with a rookie kicker, despite the fact that he can’t live with the decision. He has no confidence in Henery.

    The 2011 Eagles are NOT an accident. This team is the result of CHOICES made by the owner, GM, and coach.

    And, at the end of the day, the Eagles fans will be the only ones to pay a price for it. No coaches or players will be held accountable.

  105. moochzilla says: Dec 2, 2011 8:08 AM

    Jackson is gone, it’s too late to pay him.

    That bridge is officially burned.

    Sad.

  106. hillzmickelzon says: Dec 2, 2011 8:08 AM

    Did i just read draft vicks replacement? What? Name me one Eagels linebacker or safety? Go ahead i will wait.. This LB unit is undersized , slow, & they should draft vontaze burfict with that top 5 pick they are sure to get. And dont fire andy reid just get a new DC ,and mike vick & andy reid & all Eagles fans just need to watch ROCKY 2…

  107. pixelito says: Dec 2, 2011 8:09 AM

    Happy in Philly, Steve Smith?

    LOL!

  108. bikindrumz says: Dec 2, 2011 8:12 AM

    You can go ahead and cancel Christmas now, the Eagles getting blown up by the Seahawks is all I need. Merry Christmas to all and to the Eagles…GOOD NIGHT!

  109. 1bigtex says: Dec 2, 2011 8:18 AM

    @ KIR

    Come on guy. If you’re going to call yourself “KIR” then, let’s truly “Keep It Real”. DeSean knew what the deal was when he signed his first contract. That was all the money he could get at the time because that was all the leverage he had. The way to get more cash is by getting more leverage. The way to get more leverage is to play at such a level that they’re afraid to let you walk. He could have signed extensions earlier, but they weren’t up to the level that he and his agent wanted. Jackson orchestrated this whole “contract season” through his actions. And then he quits. And then, you come out and say it’s all because Philly didn’t pay him earlier. DO WHAT? It’s as if you’re saying “Sure, he acted like a punk, but he wouldn’t have acted like a punk if he had just had more money in his pockets”. Oh yeah, that line of thinking always works out.
    Dude, you’re so far off base regarding Douche-on Jackson that it’s about a $50 cab ride to get close to base. Sorry, but I’m just “keeping it real”.

  110. 2ndaryinsanity says: Dec 2, 2011 8:20 AM

    Here are some wide receivers i’d want on my team: Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson, Wes Welker, Andre Johnson, Santonio Holmes, Miles Austin, Vincent Jackson, and Reggie Wayne. “Me-Jax” isn’t on this list for several reasons: he’s an immature, selfish punk who wants a huge new contract but isn’t giving any effort at all. He’s playing like a chicken#%*…..won’t try to catch balls if there’s a chance he’ll get hit.

  111. oldbyrd says: Dec 2, 2011 8:22 AM

    I said from the begining of camp that, these linebackers were horrible. Maybe all of you will believe me now. Reid is a stubborn person. He also makes horrible decesions. The buck stops with him. He was hired to take us to the Super Bowl. Do any one of you think Bill Cowher would go into a season with, 3 seventh round draft choices at LB ? One 5’_9″ another barely 6″? Jaun Castillo at Def. Coord? Switch Amdi etc. away from what they do best? We Eagle Fans must come to grips that Andy has been slipping and loosing the team for years. Playoffs a nightmayer. I hope Mr. Laurie realizes we need a frsh start. I hope he considers…..X Eagles Line Backer ….Bill Cowher. This is a good ship with a terrible Captain

  112. dgforreal says: Dec 2, 2011 8:26 AM

    Nightmare On Broad Street.

  113. askafeld says: Dec 2, 2011 8:26 AM

    The obvious news intro – ” Dream Team becomes nightmare … “

  114. xxwhodatxx says: Dec 2, 2011 8:42 AM

    Maybe this will FINALLY stop all the Mike Vick is soooo great talk. He had a good season last year and rolled that into a big deal. If you look at his history this is as good as it gets for him, last year was the anomaly.

  115. fwippel says: Dec 2, 2011 8:43 AM

    This just goes to show that, unlike baseball, you can’t just go out and get football players in free agency, plug them into their positions, and create a champion.

    In baseball, whether it’s third base, center field, etc., all the positions are played the same on all teams. But in football, you have to learn the system, AND be willing to play within it. I wasn’t buying the hype a few months back because of this. The Eagles have great talent, no question about it. But talent with no teamwork means you lose more games than you win.

    The Eagles have far too many problems meshing their players to make this work.

  116. whyalwaysthehate says: Dec 2, 2011 8:45 AM

    But we always believe the Eagle can still run the table.

  117. derekjetersmansion says: Dec 2, 2011 9:00 AM

    They have no football guys in their front office. Howie just rose up from the accounting ranks in the organization.

    Do you realize the Howie Roseman runs their draft? That’s nuts.

    Reid is getting no help, on top of making head scratching decisions, like hiring a defensive line coach before a defensive coordinator. (They had no choice but to hire Castillo.)

  118. moochzilla says: Dec 2, 2011 9:06 AM

    bigtex, first off let me state that I am fine letting Jackson walk. But there are a few things you are misrepresenting.

    1) “DeSean knew what the deal was when he signed his first contract. That was all the money he could get at the time because that was all the leverage he had.”

    No, he got that money because he was slotted at that pick. The money is determined by the # you are selected at. So he didn’t have a choice.

    2) “The way to get more cash is by getting more leverage.”

    He was made, by Reid, the focal point of offense and special teams. That’s leverage. The real problem is that the Jets overpaid for Santonio Holmes and the Eagles then signed Steve Smith to $4M. All that did was drive up his asking price.

    3) “And then, you come out and say it’s all because Philly didn’t pay him earlier.”

    But that’s what happened. Is it right? Nope. Is it fair? No. Is it professional? No.

    But they knew when they drafted him that he was a diva. And, as we know from TO, when you pick up a baby you need to treat him differently. If you are not prepared to do that, don’t draft him. But they saw him in round 2 as an extraordinary value, so they took him.

    Bringing Jackson back for this season with no extension was playing with fire. Either they should’ve signed him or traded him. I’d have been OK with either. I am not going to sit here and tell you he’s worth Holmes money much less Fitz money.

    But to do what they did was the worst course of action, and we know that from the TO debacle.

    Not saying you are wrong, but reality is reality. And not paying this guy helped wreck the season. Because he imploded and sulked. So forgive me if I don’t care what the balance sheet looks like.

    We all wish the league was full of Shady McCoys, playing hard (and hurt) for a contract in a losing cause. But those guys are the exception. And if you are running a team, you need to take account of that in your decisions.

  119. everyoneholdsorakpo says: Dec 2, 2011 9:18 AM

    Hey hawkman….talking about all of the teams your hawks have conquered……ah….missing one name……REDSKINS….Rex, rak, helu just too much for the 12th man to overcome

  120. moochzilla says: Dec 2, 2011 9:20 AM

    Let me ask you this…

    What did the Eagles “get” from their decision not to re-sign Jackson?

    They saved a lot of money. They taught him a lesson.

    He quit on the team and wrecked the offense and now the team is 4-8.

    He’s made himself untradeable, so you can’t even franchise and deal him in the offseason. So we won’t even get a draft pick for him.

    So who taught who “a lesson”?

  121. listenupcupcake says: Dec 2, 2011 9:33 AM

    It’s long, long, long past time for Andy to go.

    And the next coach needs to clean house. Buh-bye Vick, VY, MeJax, Riley effin’ Cooper, SorrySmith.

    Then he needs to get talent that AR has deemed unimportant. Such as LBs and DBs that can both hit AND cover, and a big WR that can catch end zone fades and take hits over the middle.

    No, not a dream team – that would be a reality team.

    Cower, Fisher, even Spags – all would be an immediate improvement over AR. And much as I admire the work ethic of Juan Castillo, the man is in over his head. Let him go with Andy to … wherever.

  122. realitypolice says: Dec 2, 2011 9:41 AM

    anonymouslyanonymouscommentor says:
    Dec 2, 2011 12:10 AM
    This is a no-brainer for the Eagles management: fire Reid and make Howard Mudd head coach.
    ========================

    You’re right- you would definitely have to have no brain to do that.

  123. realitypolice says: Dec 2, 2011 9:47 AM

    derekjetersmansion says:
    Dec 2, 2011 9:00 AM
    They have no football guys in their front office. Howie just rose up from the accounting ranks in the organization.

    Do you realize the Howie Roseman runs their draft? That’s nuts.
    ==========================

    No he doesn’t.

    When Reid renegotiated his contract years ago and had the title of VP or Football Operations added to his title, he was given final say over all personnel decisions.

    He picked every player on this team. Roseman is nothing but a cap guy.

  124. somnambulator says: Dec 2, 2011 10:03 AM

    @KIR: Don’t you remember DeSean’s outrageous showboating the last couple years? Running parallel to the end zone to rub his return in the Giant’s face? The premature victory dance at Cowboy Stadium? I could go on and on about this Most Arrogant Punk, but it would get repetitive. He signed a contract, man; when it’s completed, he can sign another — and, if he does well his contract year – he scores megamillions. But the p*ssy wants to whine and cry and O GREATEST OF SINS IN PROFESSIONAL ANYTHING – quit on his teammates. TOs an ass, but he delivers. DeSean is everything we hate about professional athletes and, brother, he’s in for a big surprise….

    —————————-

    i like DJax BECAUSE of the showboating. i hate him because of his QQing about a contract. i agree with your contract assessment, but i WANT players showboating. Am i the only fan that WANTS to see arrogance? That wants to see over-the-top endzone celebrations? That wants to see a receiver burn a top corner and a safety and then do a spin-fall into the endzone?

    I’m better than you and i know it. THATS WHAT I WANT TO SEE (if you can back it up)

  125. deathmonkey41 says: Dec 2, 2011 10:21 AM

    Andy Reid said after the game that the worst part of the whole situation was that it was impossible to find a good cheesesteak in Seattle.

  126. countsnail says: Dec 2, 2011 10:21 AM

    Andy Reid is a good coach, but he has become totally irrelevant at this point in Philly. The Eagles are built to be a running team with a press coverage defense, but Reid insists on sticking with the heavy passing attack and zone coverages. He just doesn’t have the same tools he had 7 years ago to run a scheme like that.

    Fire Reid, and hire somebody who can work with McCoy and our talented but wrongly utilized CBs.

  127. mobuccsfan says: Dec 2, 2011 10:23 AM

    Rob Ryan or Gruden to the Eagles
    Cowher to the Giants
    If Ryan doesn’t land Eagles job, he could end up in San Diego or Jacksonville, very easily.
    Fischer to Tampa Bay

    (Okay, that last one is just wishful thinking as a Buccsfan, but I think Fischer, a new OC and a solid draft and getting rid of the turds on that team we have currently, and spending a few dollars in free agency for some key positions/veteran presence, and Tampa could begin to get back to 8-8, 9-7 football, and then be contending in another two to three seasons. Again, just wishful thinking!)

  128. Derty Ernie says: Dec 2, 2011 10:23 AM

    Yes when you lose to a Travaris Jackson you are at the rock bottom. Hey I see Jamarcus wants to return to football. What a coincidence since so many teams are in need of a QB. Wonder if he still tips the scale near 300 lbs yet or his agent looking for the moooooney has him on a diet.

  129. jrmbadger says: Dec 2, 2011 10:26 AM

    Eagles are done. At this point they might as well lose out and get a real quarterback like Barkley.

  130. sonopazzo6 says: Dec 2, 2011 10:47 AM

    Eagles remedy……fire Andy, hire Chucky…..fire Juan, hire Jack Del Rio…….let DeGatorsean Jackson walk…….find a stud MLB somewhere and bring back Dawkins!!!!!!! Instant SB formula!

  131. bigbluelou says: Dec 2, 2011 10:58 AM

    ” We all live in a dream submarine, a dream submarine, a dream submarine”

  132. luvnmym3 says: Dec 2, 2011 11:32 AM

    Jackson is NOT a top 5 receiver either.

    Heck, I wouldn’t even consider him a top 50 receiver.

  133. markuh says: Dec 2, 2011 11:39 AM

    This is a very underrated Seahawks team that doesn’t get credit for. They almost came back from the Falcons, but a nutty call instead of going for it on 4th and 3. They kicked a 61 yard field goal to win, which was obviously missed. They were very close 49ers, but 2 special team returns killed them. Would’ve beaten the Browns, but Whitehurst is atrocious and Lynch wasn’t playing. I just loved how all the NFL network analyst picks all went for Eagles. W/e I love watching this Seahawks team. Sure they are out of the playoffs, but they will ‘fight til the bitter end’. This defense is big and rising. They are a young football team that makes mistakes, but they are sure playing their tails off and exciting to watch.

  134. macatawami says: Dec 2, 2011 12:05 PM

    Conspiracy theory time!

    What if DeSean Jackson realized that he’ll never reach his full potential as a receiver with the talented but inconsistent Michael Vick (or worse, Vince Young) at QB? He might have seen Roddy White’s numbers with Vick compared to his numbers with Matt Ryan and realized he needs more of a pocket QB. The only problem is that teams don’t just let talented 25-year-old WRs walk for nothing.

    Enter Bill Belichick. He sees his team with a young defense with potential, a star QB, a good OL, and good possession targets in the passing game. The only thing his team is missing is a gamebreaker – someone who is a threat to score an 80-yard TD on any play. Belichick sent word to Jackson that, if he tanks this season and acts petulant enough to make Reid get rid of him, there’s a 4 year/$40 million contract waiting for him, and he can catch balls from Tom Brady during the prime of his career while being a Super Bowl contender every year.

    Just sayin’…

  135. luvnmym3 says: Dec 2, 2011 1:43 PM

    Why are almost 1/2 of the comments getting deleted?

  136. mwelsh1977 says: Dec 2, 2011 3:04 PM

    DeSean should have been given a new contract at the beginning of the year. Doesn’t excuse his behavior but it doesn’t excuse Eagles Mgmt.’s behavior either.

    Eagles forgot this is a team game and not a collection of great players game. Embarrassing, no cohesion.

    I think Reid is a good coach but his decision to make Castillo Def Coord shows poor judgement and because of that he needs to go. Time for fresh blood. Keep T Cole, Desean, Maclin, and McCoy. I’ll throw in Avant and maybe Celek, fire the rest and plan for a 4 year rebuilding and pain during that time.

  137. axespray says: Dec 3, 2011 4:43 AM

    After disrespecting the terrible towel, the titans apologized to the towel and steeler fans…
    They won 8 straight games to finish out the season.

    Just saying…. Eagles’ fans trashed Packer fan’s vehicles in the playoffs….. Maybe Eagle fans should apologize and who knows….

    The Eagles dream team keep losing or the Curse is lifted?

  138. slick3 says: Dec 5, 2011 2:59 AM

    jrmbadger says: Dec 2, 2011 10:26 AM

    Eagles are done. At this point they might as well lose out and get a real quarterback like Barkley.
    =================================

    Love Barkley but, if Barkley’s not available, I’d like Nick Foles. Foles is 6-5 235LB. He’s completed 71% of his passes with 15 TD’s and 4 INT’s and is projected to go in the 2nd round. I like big QB’s that can take drop back, quickly set up and see over the linemen as the receivers are running their routes. Not smurfs like Vick who’s barely 6 ft and is constantly wasting time rolling out to escape pressure and loosing visual contact with his receivers. But, yeah, I would love to have Barkley first unfortunately, where talking Philadelphia Eagles here when it comes to drafting obvious needs.

  139. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 7, 2011 8:02 AM

    axespray says:
    Dec 3, 2011 4:43 AM
    After disrespecting the terrible towel, the titans apologized to the towel and steeler fans…
    They won 8 straight games to finish out the season.

    Just saying…. Eagles’ fans trashed Packer fan’s vehicles in the playoffs….. Maybe Eagle fans should apologize and who knows….

    The Eagles dream team keep losing or the Curse is lifted?

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    Dude stop it with the BS. No one cares about a friggin towel. Steeler fans disrespect ALL teams fans with that obnoxious nonsense and “6 rings” talk. The Eagles were doomed from the first preseason game where they got manhandled. Aside from their Super Bowl win vs. the Giants a few weeks back, they’ve been virtually listless effort-wise all season.

  140. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 7, 2011 8:04 AM

    1960.

    And I love to hear Eagles fans say “Well, the Lions, Bengals, Browns, etc. have never won a Super Bowl!!!”

    Difference is, they don’t run around bragging as if they’ve won one, or warn us every year that they’ve won the Super Bowl of the preseason with their lavish free agency signings.

  141. eaglesw00t says: Dec 8, 2011 9:59 AM

    Mr. Wright 212 says:
    Dec 7, 2011 8:04 AM
    1960.
    And I love to hear Eagles fans say “Well, the Lions, Bengals, Browns, etc. have never won a Super Bowl!!!”
    Difference is, they don’t run around bragging as if they’ve won one, or warn us every year that they’ve won the Super Bowl of the preseason with their lavish free agency signings.
    ————————————————-

    What exactly are you on?

    1. Please tell me exactly when and where youve heard an Eagles fan brag as if we have won anything. Please. Because I have honestly never seen it. And I most certainly havent been one to brag. When your favorite team hasnt won anything in your lifetime, you dont go bragging. I visit the Eagles message boards every single day, and I have never once in the last decade seen anyone bring up the fact that there are other teams that havent won the SB. Not unless they are arguing against a fan of one of those other teams.

    2. Please show me the last time before this season that any single Eagles fan – “warn us every year that they’ve won the Super Bowl of the preseason with their lavish free agency signings” I guarantee you that you cant find a single warn, brag, or guarantee. Eagles offseasons are ususally crap. Pardon some of us for being excited this season for spending money. Our last previous signing was Asante Samuel. And not a single person equated signing that one player with winning a Super Bowl.

    Your post is full of just baseless drivel. There was no substance, and you made most of it up. Please stop making things up, just because you feel tough on the internet. Yes, Eagles fans are acutely aware that we suck. Its plain as day. Feel free to continue rubbing it in. But stop making it up as you go, its just sad.

  142. eaglesw00t says: Dec 8, 2011 10:04 AM

    slick3 says:
    Dec 5, 2011 2:59 AM
    jrmbadger says: Dec 2, 2011 10:26 AM

    Eagles are done. At this point they might as well lose out and get a real quarterback like Barkley.
    =================================

    Love Barkley but, if Barkley’s not available, I’d like Nick Foles. Foles is 6-5 235LB. He’s completed 71% of his passes with 15 TD’s and 4 INT’s and is projected to go in the 2nd round. I like big QB’s that can take drop back, quickly set up and see over the linemen as the receivers are running their routes. Not smurfs like Vick who’s barely 6 ft and is constantly wasting time rolling out to escape pressure and loosing visual contact with his receivers. But, yeah, I would love to have Barkley first unfortunately, where talking Philadelphia Eagles here when it comes to drafting obvious needs.
    ———————————————-

    I would love to take Barkley. We are stuck with Vick in 2012, but 2013 would be ripe for a new HC and a new starting QB. Give a big, strong armed kid a chance to learn for a year, and actually be able to see over our 6’6″ LG and 6’9″ plugin Dunlap. Vick has problems with throwing lanes because he cant see. I love watching him play when he is on, but Vick is too inconsistent to rely on every week. Lets move on please and prepare for the future.

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