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	<title>Comments on: Wilf&#8217;s $19 million Manhattan co-op could hurt stadium effort</title>
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		<title>By: clonefan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@bigjdve: No Arlington only gave $325 million Jones put up the rest of the $1.15 Billion. Just a little different than what good old Wilf wants. Just about the exact opposite....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bigjdve: No Arlington only gave $325 million Jones put up the rest of the $1.15 Billion. Just a little different than what good old Wilf wants. Just about the exact opposite&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: bulldogslc</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 19:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do MN people really have a problem with owners having more than one businesses? Is Wilf the only one? Two seperate businesses an two separate headaches. Money is spent and made in two different sources. If he was using Viking money then you have a complaint]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do MN people really have a problem with owners having more than one businesses? Is Wilf the only one? Two seperate businesses an two separate headaches. Money is spent and made in two different sources. If he was using Viking money then you have a complaint</p>
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		<title>By: bigjdve</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’d say when he’s asking for a half-billion dollar taxpayer handout is a good time to do that.

As for people saying that this is how other NFL owners do it, I say that we are in a different time now, so the mindset &amp; approach needs to change on publicly funding sports stadiums.


1. I would respectfully disagree. This isn&#039;t a handout, this is leveraging a deal to keep his business in this area. He could go somewhere else where he can get a better deal. Sometimes when you are the vendor, you have the leverage. 

2. We aren&#039;t in a different time, the stadium deals have been happening in the last couple of years. Just look at Dallas, they gave even more for the stadium.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’d say when he’s asking for a half-billion dollar taxpayer handout is a good time to do that.</p>
<p>As for people saying that this is how other NFL owners do it, I say that we are in a different time now, so the mindset &amp; approach needs to change on publicly funding sports stadiums.</p>
<p>1. I would respectfully disagree. This isn&#8217;t a handout, this is leveraging a deal to keep his business in this area. He could go somewhere else where he can get a better deal. Sometimes when you are the vendor, you have the leverage. </p>
<p>2. We aren&#8217;t in a different time, the stadium deals have been happening in the last couple of years. Just look at Dallas, they gave even more for the stadium.</p>
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		<title>By: clonefan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find the ignorance from some of the NY fans humorous sad and offensive. You know nothing of the Midwest and you state how we should finance a stadium for a millionaires to play in when you didn&#039;t pay $0.01 for the new play ground that the Jets and Giants share. That play ground was 100% privately financed and the public was unwilling to build a stadium for the Jets. Maybe the Jets should move to LA instead of having to be second class citizens and share a facility with the New Jersey Giants. 

Now as far as the insults of the Midwest. I have lived in the Mid Hudson Valley of New York and been to NYC many times. I now live 80 miles south of MPLS. Both states have much to offer. I prefer where I am at, but NYC is a neat place, Long Island is cool and Up State is gorgeous. But there is something about the Midwest that I love and there is a lot of beauty here too, but if you prefer to stay ignorant that is fine with me, I prefer it not too crowded....

Your uneducated farmer remark doesn&#039;t even deserve a response. You don&#039;t know what farming is...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the ignorance from some of the NY fans humorous sad and offensive. You know nothing of the Midwest and you state how we should finance a stadium for a millionaires to play in when you didn&#8217;t pay $0.01 for the new play ground that the Jets and Giants share. That play ground was 100% privately financed and the public was unwilling to build a stadium for the Jets. Maybe the Jets should move to LA instead of having to be second class citizens and share a facility with the New Jersey Giants. </p>
<p>Now as far as the insults of the Midwest. I have lived in the Mid Hudson Valley of New York and been to NYC many times. I now live 80 miles south of MPLS. Both states have much to offer. I prefer where I am at, but NYC is a neat place, Long Island is cool and Up State is gorgeous. But there is something about the Midwest that I love and there is a lot of beauty here too, but if you prefer to stay ignorant that is fine with me, I prefer it not too crowded&#8230;.</p>
<p>Your uneducated farmer remark doesn&#8217;t even deserve a response. You don&#8217;t know what farming is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[theduuuuuuuuuude
Dec 1, 2011, 11:21 AM CST
Who cares? Since when do we tell a man how to spend his money?
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I&#039;d say when he&#039;s asking for a half-billion dollar taxpayer handout is a good time to do that. 

As for people saying that this is how other NFL owners do it, I say that we are in a different time now, so the mindset &amp; approach needs to change on publicly funding sports stadiums.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>theduuuuuuuuuude<br />
Dec 1, 2011, 11:21 AM CST<br />
Who cares? Since when do we tell a man how to spend his money?<br />
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I&#8217;d say when he&#8217;s asking for a half-billion dollar taxpayer handout is a good time to do that. </p>
<p>As for people saying that this is how other NFL owners do it, I say that we are in a different time now, so the mindset &amp; approach needs to change on publicly funding sports stadiums.</p>
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		<title>By: vikesandravens78</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Star Tribune has it out for Zygi because he doesn&#039;t want/plan to build a new Vikings stadium on the piece of property they offered as a potential site. They&#039;re going to publish every move and transaction he makes in an attempt to villianize him. They even went so far as to name him &quot;Turkey of the Year&quot; on Thanksgiving. Truly an insult considering there were so many other people far more deserving of the title. The Star Tribune has been rather shameless in not hiding its bias.

Wilf has been one of the best Vikings owners in terms of listening to the fans and bringing in big names, such as Jared Allen. The Star Tribune should recuse itself from covering Vikings stadium news as a conflict of interest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Star Tribune has it out for Zygi because he doesn&#8217;t want/plan to build a new Vikings stadium on the piece of property they offered as a potential site. They&#8217;re going to publish every move and transaction he makes in an attempt to villianize him. They even went so far as to name him &#8220;Turkey of the Year&#8221; on Thanksgiving. Truly an insult considering there were so many other people far more deserving of the title. The Star Tribune has been rather shameless in not hiding its bias.</p>
<p>Wilf has been one of the best Vikings owners in terms of listening to the fans and bringing in big names, such as Jared Allen. The Star Tribune should recuse itself from covering Vikings stadium news as a conflict of interest.</p>
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		<title>By: theduuuuuuuuuude</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who cares? Since when do we tell a man how to spend his money?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares? Since when do we tell a man how to spend his money?</p>
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		<title>By: jimmysee</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Attention MN legislative dimwits -- your state is running a $1 billion deficit?

Raise taxes.

Or do tea party knuckleheads have you so wrapped around their fingers, or kissing their privileged behinds.

When a household runs short, someone goes out and finds a part time job.  

When states do not have enough money for schools, hospitals, roads, infrastructure, social services, they raise taxes.

And then contribute your part to build that  stadium.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attention MN legislative dimwits &#8212; your state is running a $1 billion deficit?</p>
<p>Raise taxes.</p>
<p>Or do tea party knuckleheads have you so wrapped around their fingers, or kissing their privileged behinds.</p>
<p>When a household runs short, someone goes out and finds a part time job.  </p>
<p>When states do not have enough money for schools, hospitals, roads, infrastructure, social services, they raise taxes.</p>
<p>And then contribute your part to build that  stadium.</p>
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		<title>By: cjw1197</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@nyyjetsknicks - oh believe me, I have an education.  I don&#039;t need to pull up to Wall Street in my SL 500 and my $5000 suit to prove it like you do.  Don&#039;t let the mustard from the hot dog spill on your tie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@nyyjetsknicks &#8211; oh believe me, I have an education.  I don&#8217;t need to pull up to Wall Street in my SL 500 and my $5000 suit to prove it like you do.  Don&#8217;t let the mustard from the hot dog spill on your tie.</p>
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		<title>By: tombradysponytail</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m starting to think that maybe it would be best for the Vikes to move out west. Just make a clean break of it and let everybody get a fresh start.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m starting to think that maybe it would be best for the Vikes to move out west. Just make a clean break of it and let everybody get a fresh start.</p>
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		<title>By: nyjalleffingday</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being a fat hick is nothing to be proud of.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a fat hick is nothing to be proud of.</p>
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		<title>By: fester986</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Rugdog ---  The academic research has shown that stadium construction, especially football stadium construction with public subsidies tends to be a massive economic loser for the public that is subsidizing the construction. 

The proper analytical framework is to see how much new money will be brought into the region from outside the region due to the stadium being constructed AND how much money that is currently leaving the region will now be kept in the region due to the stadium being constructed.

Most Vikings fans who spend money on Vikings football live in Minnesota, so if there is no stadium and no team, the vast majority of them will shift their current entertainment expenditure from the Vikings to some other Minnesota entertainment provider.  A dollar shifted is not an economic benefit.  The few Viking fans who fly/drive-in for every home game from out of the region are a net loss, as will be however many Vikings fans that fly out to LA to watch the LA Vikings play in 2014.  

But entertainment facilities are luxury goods that merely concentrate entertainment/discretionary dollars.  And that is not a net economic gain for a region to subsidize.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rugdog &#8212;  The academic research has shown that stadium construction, especially football stadium construction with public subsidies tends to be a massive economic loser for the public that is subsidizing the construction. </p>
<p>The proper analytical framework is to see how much new money will be brought into the region from outside the region due to the stadium being constructed AND how much money that is currently leaving the region will now be kept in the region due to the stadium being constructed.</p>
<p>Most Vikings fans who spend money on Vikings football live in Minnesota, so if there is no stadium and no team, the vast majority of them will shift their current entertainment expenditure from the Vikings to some other Minnesota entertainment provider.  A dollar shifted is not an economic benefit.  The few Viking fans who fly/drive-in for every home game from out of the region are a net loss, as will be however many Vikings fans that fly out to LA to watch the LA Vikings play in 2014.  </p>
<p>But entertainment facilities are luxury goods that merely concentrate entertainment/discretionary dollars.  And that is not a net economic gain for a region to subsidize.</p>
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		<title>By: flashdeath</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most football fans miss the point about stadium financing here in MN. There is no money for education, no money for social programs, and those of us who live in outstate can no longer depend on getting tax dollars back into our communities. There is no good reason to fun a playground for a guy who can pay his own way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most football fans miss the point about stadium financing here in MN. There is no money for education, no money for social programs, and those of us who live in outstate can no longer depend on getting tax dollars back into our communities. There is no good reason to fun a playground for a guy who can pay his own way.</p>
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		<title>By: davikes</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe this is what some people needed to wake up and smell the coffee.  Zygi can contribute a lot more than he has.  

The other news happening today is that MN is expecting up to a $1 billion budget deficit over the next two years.  To resolve the last deficit, they borrowed from school funding.  It&#039;s going to get really tough to fund a stadium.  

If the Jags or someone else moves to LA first, the Vikes are going to play in MN in the Metrodome for a while longer.  But I&#039;ll bet Zygi tries to get to LA first.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this is what some people needed to wake up and smell the coffee.  Zygi can contribute a lot more than he has.  </p>
<p>The other news happening today is that MN is expecting up to a $1 billion budget deficit over the next two years.  To resolve the last deficit, they borrowed from school funding.  It&#8217;s going to get really tough to fund a stadium.  </p>
<p>If the Jags or someone else moves to LA first, the Vikes are going to play in MN in the Metrodome for a while longer.  But I&#8217;ll bet Zygi tries to get to LA first.</p>
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		<title>By: glac1</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ziggy could  care less about the Vikings.  He want&#039;s to develop the land around the stadium the people will build him and take the profits and run.  The team is just a &quot;tool&quot; he has that  will help him acquire more land to develop...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ziggy could  care less about the Vikings.  He want&#8217;s to develop the land around the stadium the people will build him and take the profits and run.  The team is just a &#8220;tool&#8221; he has that  will help him acquire more land to develop&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: twesty85</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ bigjdve 

The vikings haven&#039;t had nearly as big of a problem with blackouts as most NFL teams.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ bigjdve </p>
<p>The vikings haven&#8217;t had nearly as big of a problem with blackouts as most NFL teams.</p>
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		<title>By: nyyjetsknicks</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cjw1197 says:
Dec 1, 2011 9:54 AM
Wow, @nyyjetsknicks, you are classy. Regarding our “fly over state”, all I can say is at least the people that break their backs working here (i.e. farmers) produce something of substance, rather than a suit sitting in an office in front a screeen buying a bunch of futures contracts for things they never intend to take delivery on.

_________________________

Want to know why they&#039;re farmers? I&#039;ll give you a hint. No _ducation. 

Let&#039;s see if you can figure that out.]]></description>
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Dec 1, 2011 9:54 AM<br />
Wow, @nyyjetsknicks, you are classy. Regarding our “fly over state”, all I can say is at least the people that break their backs working here (i.e. farmers) produce something of substance, rather than a suit sitting in an office in front a screeen buying a bunch of futures contracts for things they never intend to take delivery on.</p>
<p>_________________________</p>
<p>Want to know why they&#8217;re farmers? I&#8217;ll give you a hint. No _ducation. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see if you can figure that out.</p>
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		<title>By: thetooloftools</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“That’s a personal family issue that is not related to the Minnesota Vikings.” Yes... when he spends millions of his own dollars on luxury it&#039;s a &quot;personal family issue&quot; but when he&#039;s shaking down taxpayers to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, it&#039;s Vikings (whom he owns) business. See, in the current RECESSION, it&#039;s not like tax dollars are not scarce enough in the current economic environment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“That’s a personal family issue that is not related to the Minnesota Vikings.” Yes&#8230; when he spends millions of his own dollars on luxury it&#8217;s a &#8220;personal family issue&#8221; but when he&#8217;s shaking down taxpayers to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, it&#8217;s Vikings (whom he owns) business. See, in the current RECESSION, it&#8217;s not like tax dollars are not scarce enough in the current economic environment.</p>
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		<title>By: threedeep1998</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[^^^ How can you call yourself a Packer fan?  You want one of the oldest rivals to leave town?

Wilf&#039;s are living the dream.  I&#039;d kill to have my apt in MPLS and have a NYC joint.  Bay Ridge Brooklyn = jam]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^ How can you call yourself a Packer fan?  You want one of the oldest rivals to leave town?</p>
<p>Wilf&#8217;s are living the dream.  I&#8217;d kill to have my apt in MPLS and have a NYC joint.  Bay Ridge Brooklyn = jam</p>
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		<title>By: keeley2</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dohpey28 says: Dec 1, 2011 9:15 AM

Wow, what a complete non-story. Sounds like some people in Minnesota have big inferiority complexes.
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No, it&#039;s only the Vikings fans that have that disease.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dohpey28 says: Dec 1, 2011 9:15 AM</p>
<p>Wow, what a complete non-story. Sounds like some people in Minnesota have big inferiority complexes.<br />
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<p>No, it&#8217;s only the Vikings fans that have that disease.</p>
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		<title>By: jrmbadger</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look, even as a Packer fan who wouldn&#039;t mind the Vikings leaving town (as I would get to watch Packer games without having to get DirectTv), fact is that they are part of the local culture and part of the identity of Minnesota.  

The essential problem is that the state of Minnesota  has a 5 billion dollar deficit right now.  Yes, that&#039;s right, 5 billion dollars.  To balance the budget last year (during the government shut down) they borrowed money from the schools.... yes, they delayed payments to schools.  The Republican legislature has refused to allow the governor to raise taxes to fix this mess.  Basically, the state is in a huge financial mess. 

Zygi&#039;s biggest problem is that he&#039;s trying to squeeze blood from a stone - pretty hard to do.  Of course he could finance the whole thing for himself, but then he couldn&#039;t buy up ALL the land around it and develop that into Zygiville with shopping and the like (to make even more money).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, even as a Packer fan who wouldn&#8217;t mind the Vikings leaving town (as I would get to watch Packer games without having to get DirectTv), fact is that they are part of the local culture and part of the identity of Minnesota.  </p>
<p>The essential problem is that the state of Minnesota  has a 5 billion dollar deficit right now.  Yes, that&#8217;s right, 5 billion dollars.  To balance the budget last year (during the government shut down) they borrowed money from the schools&#8230;. yes, they delayed payments to schools.  The Republican legislature has refused to allow the governor to raise taxes to fix this mess.  Basically, the state is in a huge financial mess. </p>
<p>Zygi&#8217;s biggest problem is that he&#8217;s trying to squeeze blood from a stone &#8211; pretty hard to do.  Of course he could finance the whole thing for himself, but then he couldn&#8217;t buy up ALL the land around it and develop that into Zygiville with shopping and the like (to make even more money).</p>
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		<title>By: das14</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As jerrykill4pres stated. This is a bias story from a newspaper that can hardly be called that anymore. The star trib and MPLS have a vested interest and are throwing up all these roadblocks and bias stories to sway public opinion. They call themselves a newspaper. pff. They are not. It&#039;s a power money game and most people don&#039;t get what this is really about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As jerrykill4pres stated. This is a bias story from a newspaper that can hardly be called that anymore. The star trib and MPLS have a vested interest and are throwing up all these roadblocks and bias stories to sway public opinion. They call themselves a newspaper. pff. They are not. It&#8217;s a power money game and most people don&#8217;t get what this is really about.</p>
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		<title>By: emma333</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So buried at the end of this article is the fact that the Vikings will need an extension to avoid a blackout? With Tebow coming to town? Wow!
Why am I not seeing all the hate filled comments that I usually see when directed toward Jacksonville? Personally, I hope the Vikings stay in Mn, I wish them well....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So buried at the end of this article is the fact that the Vikings will need an extension to avoid a blackout? With Tebow coming to town? Wow!<br />
Why am I not seeing all the hate filled comments that I usually see when directed toward Jacksonville? Personally, I hope the Vikings stay in Mn, I wish them well&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: delsj</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe part of the problem is that the 99% contains too much of the shallow end of the gene pool.  Take the sign in the picture for example.  The headline say &quot;greedy billionaires&quot;, and greedy is crossed out and replaced with needy.  

If you cross out greedy and replace it with needy, then you are saying they are needy, thus deserving of the tax break.  Is that an attempt at irony?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe part of the problem is that the 99% contains too much of the shallow end of the gene pool.  Take the sign in the picture for example.  The headline say &#8220;greedy billionaires&#8221;, and greedy is crossed out and replaced with needy.  </p>
<p>If you cross out greedy and replace it with needy, then you are saying they are needy, thus deserving of the tax break.  Is that an attempt at irony?</p>
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		<title>By: rugdog100</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike --  What an ugly and inaccurate article.  Minnesotans feel like Wilf is pulling a Madoff style ponsey scheme?  LOL!   And get your figures straight; it&#039;s not $700 Million they need as a public investment, it&#039;s $575 Million, as they are investing $425 Million toward the $1 Billion project.  

BTW, as long as you&#039;re an expert on this topic, how much money will the Vikings bring into the state of Minnesota with stadium construction jobs (and those employees taxes), stadium jobs, income taxes on the Wilfs, Viking players, other Vikings and stdium employees income?  How much does the state  stand to make from local businesses saless taxes, lodging taxes, income taxes from those businesses employees?  What are those figures?   I&#039;ll be waiting to read your investigative story on the financial benefit to the state, county and city the new stadium is located in.  I doubt we&#039;ll see it anytime soon, if ever.  Nice work...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8212;  What an ugly and inaccurate article.  Minnesotans feel like Wilf is pulling a Madoff style ponsey scheme?  LOL!   And get your figures straight; it&#8217;s not $700 Million they need as a public investment, it&#8217;s $575 Million, as they are investing $425 Million toward the $1 Billion project.  </p>
<p>BTW, as long as you&#8217;re an expert on this topic, how much money will the Vikings bring into the state of Minnesota with stadium construction jobs (and those employees taxes), stadium jobs, income taxes on the Wilfs, Viking players, other Vikings and stdium employees income?  How much does the state  stand to make from local businesses saless taxes, lodging taxes, income taxes from those businesses employees?  What are those figures?   I&#8217;ll be waiting to read your investigative story on the financial benefit to the state, county and city the new stadium is located in.  I doubt we&#8217;ll see it anytime soon, if ever.  Nice work&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gb4mn0</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s hilarious reading the now seemingly obligatory come to the defense of Ziggy excuses the worry wart lavender rubes post. They refuse to look at the reality of what Wilf is doing. He&#039;s not looking for an reason to move the team, he&#039;s looking for a reason why he should keep the team in MN. I wonder how many Wilf sycophants will still be worshiping at the Ziggy alter after he gives them the middle finger and moves? Of course the ones that are left leaning balls of excrement will wrongly blame it on the Tea Party.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hilarious reading the now seemingly obligatory come to the defense of Ziggy excuses the worry wart lavender rubes post. They refuse to look at the reality of what Wilf is doing. He&#8217;s not looking for an reason to move the team, he&#8217;s looking for a reason why he should keep the team in MN. I wonder how many Wilf sycophants will still be worshiping at the Ziggy alter after he gives them the middle finger and moves? Of course the ones that are left leaning balls of excrement will wrongly blame it on the Tea Party.</p>
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		<title>By: hauts81</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this story is just noise from people who were inclined to be against the stadium project to begin with. at the end of the day Zygi buying a fancy home will have no impact on whether a stadium deal gets passed or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this story is just noise from people who were inclined to be against the stadium project to begin with. at the end of the day Zygi buying a fancy home will have no impact on whether a stadium deal gets passed or not.</p>
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		<title>By: mondzy805</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Their gone. That gonna be, Team, number 2 to leave Minnesota for Los Angeles. Cant blame them. Not at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their gone. That gonna be, Team, number 2 to leave Minnesota for Los Angeles. Cant blame them. Not at all.</p>
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		<title>By: cjw1197</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, @nyyjetsknicks, you are classy.  Regarding our &quot;fly over state&quot;, all I can say is at least the people that break their backs working here (i.e. farmers) produce something of substance, rather than a suit sitting in an office in front a screeen buying a bunch of futures contracts for things they never intend to take delivery on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, @nyyjetsknicks, you are classy.  Regarding our &#8220;fly over state&#8221;, all I can say is at least the people that break their backs working here (i.e. farmers) produce something of substance, rather than a suit sitting in an office in front a screeen buying a bunch of futures contracts for things they never intend to take delivery on.</p>
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		<title>By: lostsok</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dual residency in NY and Minnesota?  Ziggy should have his head examined.  That&#039;s like the worst of BOTH worlds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dual residency in NY and Minnesota?  Ziggy should have his head examined.  That&#8217;s like the worst of BOTH worlds.</p>
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