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Aaron Rodgers outduels Eli Manning in thriller

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If Aaron Rodgers doesn’t win the MVP award this season, we’re pretty excited to see what some other player is going to do over the final four weeks.

Rodgers added another flourish to his already iron-clad case for the award at the Meadowlands on Sunday when he took the Packers 68 yards in 58 seconds to set up Mason Crosby’s game-winning field goal. The kick gave the Packers a 38-35 win, moving them to 12-0 on the season and giving them 18 straight wins overall.

It certainly didn’t come easy. Six days after being embarrassed by the Saints, the Giants pushed the Packers further than any team has pushed them this season before finally succumbing. Eli Manning added to his fourth quarter highlight reel after the Packers took a 35-27 lead on Donald Driver’s second score of the game. Manning took the Giants on a 69-yard drive that ended with a perfect pass to Hakeem Nicks for a touchdown. D.J. Ware ran a well-executed draw for two more points, tying the game and setting the stage for Rodgers’ heroics.

Manning, who finished 23-of-40 for 347 yards and three touchdowns, did make two crucial errors in the first half, but he was at his best in the second half and almost did enough to get his team a win. Moral victories don’t count, though, so the Giants have now lost four in a row after a 6-2 start. This game probably has them feeling pretty good about their chances of turning things around down the stretch, with the Cowboys’ self-inflicted wounds in Arizona helping to foster that feeling.

It can’t hurt that the 38-35 final was the same as their Week 17 loss to the Patriots in 2007. They got another shot at that undefeated opponent and the result was different.

As good as the Giants might feel, they aren’t feeling any better than Rodgers. Every superlative has been spent trying to describe his play this season, so we’ll simply give you the numbers he compiled in this week’s thriller. Rodgers was 28-of-46 (with several drops in that mix) for 369 yards and four touchdowns. If that wasn’t enough also led the team in rushing with 32 yards on scrambles that kept the chains moving when things got hot in the pocket.

The Packers have work to do on defense, especially if Charles Woodson leaving early with a head injury develops into anything, but as long as Rodgers is in the lineup they’re going to be incredibly hard to beat.

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  1. trbowman says: Dec 4, 2011 8:03 PM

    He’s too good. Too good.

  2. gdeli says: Dec 4, 2011 8:03 PM

    awesome! from this vikes fan…go pack! rodgers deserves the best and not bs from farve. Get your 2nd ring aaron to show him!

  3. buckeye044 says: Dec 4, 2011 8:04 PM

    Again this week, the official confuse us all as to what is a touchdown and what is not.

  4. flavordave says: Dec 4, 2011 8:04 PM

    Rodgers is amazing to watch.

  5. gwahknows says: Dec 4, 2011 8:05 PM

    Fantastic win…12 was off today but still managed to compile ridiculous stats…too many drops and the defense still looks BAD….but hey…18 wins in a row….go pack.

  6. kilo0986 says: Dec 4, 2011 8:05 PM

    That was just flat out amazing, after seeing that. As much as i hate em Im finding it hard to believe any team can topple the packers

  7. techvet says: Dec 4, 2011 8:05 PM

    Hope the Giant fans enjoy the Tri-State traffic on their way home tonight! Good thing for them is that the Falcons, Bears, and Cowboys all lost.

  8. Matt-NC says: Dec 4, 2011 8:06 PM

    Considering the Packers’ top 2 line backers were out, the win in a hostile road environment is even more impressive.

  9. sterilizecromartie says: Dec 4, 2011 8:06 PM

    We might have just seen the closest the Packers will come to a loss all season.

  10. jessethegreat says: Dec 4, 2011 8:06 PM

    Just Another Victim on Green Bay’s path to Perfection. Giants gave a good fight, but gave Rodgers too much time at the end of the quarter. I said all year long that the Giants would pose for the most difficult win of the year for the Packers (in the regular season).

  11. badfish6907 says: Dec 4, 2011 8:07 PM

    There. Skip Bayless saw Rodgers in the last minute needing a good drive to win. Maybe now he can shut his trap for a little while.

  12. fourinchfavre says: Dec 4, 2011 8:08 PM

    Rodgers is the man, well played game by both teams, glad to see the pack go to 12-0!

  13. gcsuk says: Dec 4, 2011 8:09 PM

    Great game, Giants played a lot better than anyone (myself included) expected. Vaguely reminiscent of the regular season finale against the undefeated Patriots in ’07. Giants lost that game too, but it propelled them going forward, and, even in a loss, gave them a real boost of confidence. Hope history repeats itself.

  14. zonedogz says: Dec 4, 2011 8:10 PM

    Rodgers is ridiculous. Go Pack Go !

  15. bigfatnugs says: Dec 4, 2011 8:10 PM

    Hey, 12-0. It wasn’t pretty, but being pretty doesn’t win games. Just ask Eli Manning.

  16. axespray says: Dec 4, 2011 8:10 PM

    man, the refs and their Midwest bias… how dare they not let an east coast team catch all the breaks like a guy calling for a fair catch, only to run up field for 16 yards…. smh.

    man, jets’ fans don’t whine this much.

  17. sallysnax says: Dec 4, 2011 8:11 PM

    awesome game.. still cant figure out how jennings had control but gmen left to much clock for arod

  18. lilrob10201 says: Dec 4, 2011 8:14 PM

    If the Packers want to go undefeted then they better get their passing D better.

  19. packfaninvikeland says: Dec 4, 2011 8:14 PM

    gdeli says: Dec 4, 2011 8:03 PM

    awesome! from this vikes fan…go pack! rodgers deserves the best and not bs from farve. Get your 2nd ring aaron to show him!

    you are sad..very sad.

  20. 6ball says: Dec 4, 2011 8:15 PM

    .

    Valiant effort by Giants ….absolutely hated the illegal contact penalty called on key 3rd down sack by Paul.

    .

  21. thehouseofho says: Dec 4, 2011 8:16 PM

    Really surprised at how close the Giants kept it, but their defense couldn’t stop Rodgers. He has to be the steal of the 2005 draft.

  22. tiffpats4eva says: Dec 4, 2011 8:16 PM

    The Packers are well on their way to a 18-1 season with a loss coming in the Super Bowl.

    You guys look too familiar to me.

  23. buckeye044 says: Dec 4, 2011 8:16 PM

    @sallysnax
    He didnt.

  24. otis52gsh says: Dec 4, 2011 8:16 PM

    If the Giants play like they did today, the rest of the way, they will win out.

  25. vargafamily1 says: Dec 4, 2011 8:16 PM

    Triplett’s crew has just been eliminated from playoff contention.

  26. bamasleeper13 says: Dec 4, 2011 8:17 PM

    All I can say is wow! Rodgers was off at the start but what a battle! 12-0!! I want them to go undefeated solo badly, Farve who?

  27. tinkletinkleonyourstar says: Dec 4, 2011 8:17 PM

    I normally don’t whine about the officiating or the continued unaccounted for incompetence but now that it has had a direct impact on my team, I’m bitter.
    If you give ballard the td that his knee was clearly inbound on and in addition you take away the driver td that he clearly did not have full possession of the ball, you have a different game.
    How long can/will this continue?

  28. gwahknows says: Dec 4, 2011 8:18 PM

    Only game that scares me here in the regular season is the resurgent chiefs playing good D and having to go into that loud-ass stadium. We will not lose a game at Lambeau…especially in the playoffs.

  29. gcsuk says: Dec 4, 2011 8:18 PM

    Matt-NC says:
    Dec 4, 2011 8:06 PM
    Considering the Packers’ top 2 line backers were out, the win in a hostile road environment is even more impressive.
    ———————————————————-
    I might be wrong, but I think the Giants have an injury or 2 themselves.

  30. illbillgiantz4lif says: Dec 4, 2011 8:19 PM

    A very disappointing loss.

  31. briggsweatbird says: Dec 4, 2011 8:19 PM

    Whew! What a great game. Gotta respect the Giants and hope, as a fan of the Super Bowl champions, that this is the last time the Pack sees G men. (Pats beat Giants 38-35, same score as today, before Giants beat them in the Bowl in ’07)

  32. glennsyank13 says: Dec 4, 2011 8:20 PM

    It’s not hard to understand the catch rule…. If the receiver catches it but is pushed to the ground because of the defender, then he must retain possession through the ground and make a football move. If he doesn’t fall to the ground after being pushed, then two feet is all that is needed along with possesion at that exact moment of two feet down.

  33. theytukrjobs says: Dec 4, 2011 8:20 PM

    I don’t understand this phenomenon with referencing “drops” by the Packers WR’s whenever talking about Rodgers’s numbers. Every QB has his guys drop a few. No QB in the league however has better WR’s than this guy has to work with so I don’t see why his numbers have to always come with a “but it would have been better if not for his WR’s dropping a couple” caveats.

    I’d bet money that the percentage of balls that WR’s have any chance at that are not caught are very, very low on their team. Believe me, his WR corps are helping and not hurting him when it comes to completions.

  34. gwahknows says: Dec 4, 2011 8:21 PM

    thehouseofho says:
    Dec 4, 2011 8:16 PM
    Really surprised at how close the Giants kept it, but their defense couldn’t stop Rodgers. He has to be the steal of the 2005 draft.

    **********************

    That was established 3 seasons ago.

  35. gcsuk says: Dec 4, 2011 8:21 PM

    tinkletinkleonyourstar says:
    Dec 4, 2011 8:17 PM
    I normally don’t whine about the officiating or the continued unaccounted for incompetence but now that it has had a direct impact on my team, I’m bitter.
    If you give ballard the td that his knee was clearly inbound on and in addition you take away the driver td that he clearly did not have full possession of the ball, you have a different game.
    How long can/will this continue?
    ———————————————————
    I won’t complain about the Ballard “TD” as it was too close to call, and it wasn’t called a TD on the field. Not enough evidence to overturn. But I will agree with the Jennings call. For Buck and Aikman to even say it should overturned should mean something, because they HATE the Giants.

  36. shibbyleigh says: Dec 4, 2011 8:22 PM

    sallysnax says: Dec 4, 2011 8:11 PM

    awesome game.. still cant figure out how jennings had control but gmen left to much clock for arod

    ——————-

    Continuation rule applies to catches in which the receiver is falling to the ground. Jennings had control for three steps before having it slapped out/dropping it and was not going to the ground. Therefore, touchdown.

  37. housebroken dad says: Dec 4, 2011 8:23 PM

    I’m not usually one for conspiracy theories but wow, the Packers got some iffy calls; the NFL loves undefeated teams going to the SB. The illegal contact that wasn’t which gave Packers 1st down…they went on to score a TD…or was it? That Jennings TD on the fingertips was incomplete. If one argued that he finally controlled at at the last moment (which I don’t think he did), then he only got one foot down inbounds. That was a 4 pt call right there as it would have been 4th down and a FG try. That’s the difference in the game right there.

  38. thehouseofho says: Dec 4, 2011 8:23 PM

    tinkletinkleonyourstar says:
    Dec 4, 2011 8:17 PM
    I normally don’t whine about the officiating or the continued unaccounted for incompetence but now that it has had a direct impact on my team, I’m bitter.
    If you give ballard the td that his knee was clearly inbound on and in addition you take away the driver td that he clearly did not have full possession of the ball, you have a different game.
    How long can/will this continue?
    ===========================
    I think you’re talking about the Jennings TD. That one should have been overturned, it was pretty obvious he didn’t have control of the ball before it was knocked out of his hand.

    Ballard’s knee landed right on the line and there just wasn’t enough evidence to turn that one over. In the end, this loss could end up pushing the Giants to run the table especially considering they still have two games against a very beatable Cowboys team.

  39. gangsterg22 says: Dec 4, 2011 8:24 PM

    Packers got lucky. talk about every call going there way. and the non calls by the refs. are a bit redic. just down right wrong.

    so much for all of you saying the Giants get the calls.

    packers fans. enjoy, but you got lucky. and what wins in the playoffs. defense, which you ain’t got. sorry.

  40. jetsarestacked says: Dec 4, 2011 8:28 PM

    the packers offense and aaron rodgers are ridiculous. their d? kinda stinks. i can totally see what happened to pats in 2007 happening to the pack unless their d improves.

  41. shibbyleigh says: Dec 4, 2011 8:31 PM

    Everyone crying about calls going for the Packers, what about JPP using leverage on the missed field goal before the half? No call.

    What about Finley getting pushed around almost every play beyond five yards, one blatant on third down in which Rodgers tried to hold the ball back when he got knocked down 12 yards down the field.

    Not to mention a fair catch being called on the kick-off and advancing the ball 16 yards for the Giants?

    There were missed calls on each side, but Jennings TD, Driver TD and Ballard call were all accurate.

  42. ljtola says: Dec 4, 2011 8:33 PM

    Rodgers is putting together one of the all-time single season performances this year. If there was a Most Outstanding Player award he’d of course be the run away but clearly the Colts being 0-12 and limited prospects for a victory to come shows that most valuable is Peyton Manning.

  43. warriorsonthegrid says: Dec 4, 2011 8:33 PM

    Jennings NEVER had enough control through his 3 steps =LUCKY

  44. zaggs says: Dec 4, 2011 8:34 PM

    “Matt-NC says: Dec 4, 2011 8:06 PM

    Considering the Packers’ top 2 line backers were out, the win in a hostile road environment is even more impressive.”

    Considering the Giants were playing a linebacker sighed 4 days ago and a corner signed a month ago. Not really.

  45. sasman50 says: Dec 4, 2011 8:36 PM

    with two starting LB’s out – it was a great win. 6 or 7 dropped passes sure didn’t help either,,, but 12-0 beats any other record even though it wasn’t pretty,,, pretty is great if you’re talking about your girlfriends/wife but ‘pretty is unimportant when you’re talking about your win – loss record. That being said, the Pack sure needs to do something about the D – except for an occassion good D game this year, the D has been out of sync pretty much the whole year. Of course all wins are meaningless if you loss the last game of the payoffs.

  46. irishstout says: Dec 4, 2011 8:37 PM

    tinkletinkleonyourstar says:
    Dec 4, 2011 8:17 PM
    I normally don’t whine about the officiating or the continued unaccounted for incompetence but now that it has had a direct impact on my team, I’m bitter.
    If you give ballard the td that his knee was clearly inbound on and in addition you take away the driver td that he clearly did not have full possession of the ball, you have a different game.
    How long can/will this continue?

    ________________________________

    The knee was very, very close. However, there was definitely not enough on the replay to constitute indisputable evidence as to whether it hit the line or not, and absent indisputable evidence the call on the field stands.

    Whichever receiving TD you mean, you don’t grasp the rules.

    If it is Driver’s, you need to know that two toes down count as two feet down. After that, all he needs is to possess through going to the ground, which he did.

    If it is Jenning’s TD you are upset about, you (and a few other posters here) are getting confused about the “going to the ground” rule vs. the ordinary TD rules.

    If you go to the ground in the course of the reception, you must maintain control throughout going to the ground, or it is not a TD. HOWEVER, Jennings was not going to the ground.

    If the receiver is NOT going to the ground, the play is dead, Touchdown, the moment that the player has possession and control across the goal line. Because Jennings had control in two hands when he caught it across the goalline, and then again in his left hand, you can go ahead and pick which control you like better for calling the play dead. But the way the rules are written mean that any subsequent loss of control is irrelevant, because the play is dead on a touchdown at that point. This is distinct from the “going to the ground” rule.

  47. ampatsisahypocrite says: Dec 4, 2011 8:38 PM

    housebroken dad says:
    Dec 4, 2011 8:23 PM
    I’m not usually one for conspiracy theories but wow, the Packers got some iffy calls; the NFL loves undefeated teams going to the SB. The illegal contact that wasn’t which gave Packers 1st down…they went on to score a TD…or was it? That Jennings TD on the fingertips was incomplete. If one argued that he finally controlled at at the last moment (which I don’t think he did), then he only got one foot down inbounds. That was a 4 pt call right there as it would have been 4th down and a FG try. That’s the difference in the game right there.
    ——————————————————

    No “conspiracy” here dad, this fraud was right out there in the open for all to see… besides all you listed above, add to the list at least a couple “catches” where the Packers WR’s body was about all the way out of bounds. Seriously, do they think the average fan is this dumb? Tsk tsk.

  48. philyeagles5 says: Dec 4, 2011 8:39 PM

    give me a break. their defense gave up 35 points. they won by 3. lets not get carried away.

  49. savagenation2011 says: Dec 4, 2011 8:42 PM

    And Tebow wins again!

  50. zaggs says: Dec 4, 2011 8:45 PM

    “shibbyleigh says: Dec 4, 2011 8:31 PM

    What about Finley getting pushed around almost every play beyond five yards, one blatant on third down in which Rodgers tried to hold the ball back when he got knocked down 12 yards down the field.”

    How about Finley pushing off every play. That illegal contact penalty against Williams? Who else has their arms fully extended? Finley.
    Not to mention, can the Packers secondary cover without holding? Giants last 3rd and out, 1st play, Nicks had the scrub corner beat, the corner is holding for dear life, no call. No holding and NIcks is gone for a TD. Last Giants drive before Cruz’s big catch, scrub packer falling down, grab’s cruz’s jersey, again no call. Nick’s big catches were while he was being held or interfered with. No calls all around.
    Oh and when the ex head of officiating says the Ballard catch should have been a TD, odds favor it was not called correctly.

  51. pack15forever says: Dec 4, 2011 8:46 PM

    This was the game that concerned me the most as a Packer fan. The Giant defense quit against the Saints last week and they were called out by their coaches. The Giants’ backs were against the wall and not only were they playing for a playoff spot but for their pride. I really don’t see a game left on the Packers schedule that they should lose. They have got to do something about their pass defense however.

  52. qoojo says: Dec 4, 2011 8:48 PM

    Green Bay’s defense should be referred to as the Turnstiles.

  53. naeem42 says: Dec 4, 2011 8:49 PM

    Let’s be fair, the Giants did not lose this game because of bad officiating. They lost because you have to play near flawless football against such a great team and they were far from flawless.

    That said, it’s a shame that such a great game has to be marred by some atrocious reffing.

  54. iambadkid says: Dec 4, 2011 8:51 PM

    the home team does not know how to win 38-35

  55. peopletrains says: Dec 4, 2011 8:51 PM

    Not be lost in #12’s brilliant season: Mike McCarthy deserves a lot of credits in helping Rodgers make the most of his skill set. There is a reason he dropped to the last half of the first round. If he would have wound up with a team in disarray, we most likely wouldn’t be talking about Rodgers in the same way.

    Regarding the mention of awards… if Denver wins the West and makes the playoffs, is John Fox coach of the year over Harbaugh?

  56. bullcharger says: Dec 4, 2011 8:51 PM

    Why did the Giants throw it on first and second down at the goal line? If they ran it on first and second down there wouldn’t have been time for Rodgers and they could have played for overtime.

    It was amazing that they punched it in and got the two point conversion… why blow it by leaving 58 seconds on the clock. With one time out of course Rodgers was going to get 3.

    The Giants were most likely playing to leave time incase they missed the 2 point conversion and they had to do an onside kick. But at some point they had to try to win the game.

    It’s the same way people have beat Brady and Manning over the years. Don’t give them the ball for the final drive.

  57. drewsylvania says: Dec 4, 2011 8:52 PM

    Folks, the refs missed at least two illegal contact penalties against Giants D.

    Stop whining about calls.

  58. freedomispopular says: Dec 4, 2011 8:53 PM

    Thumbs up if you’d love to see a Packers vs. Patriots Super Bowl.

  59. showmeyatds says: Dec 4, 2011 8:53 PM

    Aaron Rodgers is an animal!!

  60. ggbblue says: Dec 4, 2011 8:58 PM

    Is there some reason Rodgers’ INT is not mention in this article, but Eli’s is? Rodgers was picked off–a bad decision that resulted in a Giants touchdown. WTF is with this BS from the media. Be fair. Manning made an error? Rodgers made the same exact error. GREAT game by Manning and Rodgers. That’s the way you play QB. It’s pretty clear that Rodgers has the better team around him and is playing incredible. But Manning very well could have had that game. These two are going to have some epic battles.

  61. onegamedoesnotaseasonmake says: Dec 4, 2011 8:58 PM

    Giants fan here….it’s absurd to speak of some conspiracy with the officials/the league so that the Packers go undefeated. Absurd.

    Imagine the price to be paid if it ever got out.

    Giants got a call or two in their favor today as well.

    Coughlin likely saved his job today, if they had been blown out again, have to think that he’d be gone at year end. He still may be.

    Am still on the doubtful side, but at least now there is some hope that the Giants can make the playoffs.

  62. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 4, 2011 8:59 PM

    Finley getting pushed around??? He was pushing off, and initiated the contact on the BS illegal contact call. What in Gods name???

  63. shibbyleigh says: Dec 4, 2011 9:01 PM

    zaggs says: Dec 4, 2011 8:45 PM

    How about Finley pushing off every play. That illegal contact penalty against Williams? Who else has their arms fully extended? Finley.
    Not to mention, can the Packers secondary cover without holding? Giants last 3rd and out, 1st play, Nicks had the scrub corner beat, the corner is holding for dear life, no call. No holding and NIcks is gone for a TD. Last Giants drive before Cruz’s big catch, scrub packer falling down, grab’s cruz’s jersey, again no call. Nick’s big catches were while he was being held or interfered with. No calls all around.
    Oh and when the ex head of officiating says the Ballard catch should have been a TD, odds favor it was not called correctly.

    —————-

    Can you read? I said there were missed calls both ways. There is holding on every play, FYI, it’s whose are more blatant/in front of the ref. I will agree that Jarret Bush is a scrub, though. I can’t believe he’s on an NFL roster much less the Packers.

    Wouldn’t take Pareira’s word when he “consults” with reviews. He gets most of them wrong when he tries to predict what the outcome will be.

  64. detroitrollin22 says: Dec 4, 2011 9:05 PM

    Im a Rodgers fan but two calls gave the packers that win.

    1. Jennings’ Td catch
    2. The illegal contact call on NYG when Rodgers was sacked by JPP in the 4th Quarter

    Both plays IMO were made incorrectly

  65. johnnyb216 says: Dec 4, 2011 9:06 PM

    housebroken dad says: Dec 4, 2011 8:23 PM

    I’m not usually one for conspiracy theories but wow, the Packers got some iffy calls; the NFL loves undefeated teams going to the SB.

    _____________________

    Yeah, that’s why there have been so many undefeated teams throughout history.

  66. zaggs says: Dec 4, 2011 9:58 PM

    “drewsylvania says: Dec 4, 2011 8:52 PM

    Folks, the refs missed at least two illegal contact penalties against Giants D.

    Stop whining about calls.”

    And they missed at least 2 offensive pass interference calls against the packers. Whats your point?

  67. zaggs says: Dec 4, 2011 10:02 PM

    Rodgers will have problems going forward. Consider the Giants were playing a linebacker who was a street free agent a week ago (Blackburn), another rookie linebacker (Williams), rookie safety after Phillips went down (Sash), and William Blackmon signed a month ago at corner. Rodgers really should not have had any problems against that group.

  68. fritz1218 says: Dec 4, 2011 10:04 PM

    Alot of talk about Jennnings not having control but if watched closely he did have control for a little while and thats all thats needed in the end zone. On the field it may have been called a incomplete or a fumble but it was in the end zone and the rules do differ a little there.

  69. johngaltwho says: Dec 4, 2011 10:04 PM

    Wow – uncharacteristic whining by giants fans about officiating. Anyone who complains about Driver’s touchdown has no credibility. Further, before Driver made the highlight reel catch, there was an illegal contact where the defender tried to knock him out of the back of the end zone. Jennings – I think the call would have stood however it was called on the field. Finley’s tough to cover and the giants plan clearly was to rough him up a bit, cut his lanes, disrupt his routes – quite alot of illegal contact that most of the time went appropriately uncalled (although they jumped all over Woodson at the thought of contact). Finally, the fair catch signal followed by a runback and an injury to the tight end who stopped because of the fair catch – that belongs on come on man.
    Only the most cynical bitter Giants fan will see that game as decidely unfair.

  70. janvanflac says: Dec 4, 2011 10:22 PM

    Giants fans should be proud of the way they battled but they have still lost 4 straight and probably won’t make the playoffs.

  71. redbeardxxv says: Dec 4, 2011 10:26 PM

    axespray says:
    Dec 4, 2011 8:10 PM
    man, the refs and their Midwest bias… how dare they not let an east coast team catch all the breaks like a guy calling for a fair catch, only to run up field for 16 yards…. smh.
    ————————————————
    It was obviously not a fair catch signal, but for the sake of argument, lets say it was. In that case, 2 packers should have gotten calls for tackling a return man after he signaled for a fair catch. 2 counts of unnecessary roughness is what? 15 yards each? 15+15= 30, much better than the 16 yards he originally got. Come on, don’t try to argue that the Giants got any calls… they lost a TD the probably should have gotten, and the Pack got one they shouldn’t have. Officials gifted this game to the Pack. It’s ok, Karma’s a B****.

  72. pack13queens0 says: Dec 4, 2011 10:39 PM

    Hey New York, now that’s the REAL A-Rod you saw today. Best athlete in the world bar none. There is not a team in the NFL that can even compete with the Pack. 19-0.

  73. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 4, 2011 10:54 PM

    Packers defense is going to cost them in the Divisional Playoff. And that could very well be against these same Giants.

  74. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 4, 2011 11:04 PM

    onegamedoesnotaseasonmake says: Dec 4, 2011 8:58 PM

    Giants fan here….it’s absurd to speak of some conspiracy with the officials/the league so that the Packers go undefeated. Absurd.

    Imagine the price to be paid if it ever got out.

    Giants got a call or two in their favor today as well.

    Coughlin likely saved his job today, if they had been blown out again, have to think that he’d be gone at year end. He still may be.

    Am still on the doubtful side, but at least now there is some hope that the Giants can make the playoffs.
    ————–

    The NFL likes the story of a potentially undefeated team. Conspiracy or not, it has affected the officiating in several Packers games. Nelson, Finley and Jennings push off all game and never get called for it. Especially Nelson.

    Finley was pushing off all game and actually gets an illegal contact call on Williams when he ran into Williams first. Amazing.

    Sure, the Giants got ONE OR TWO calls, but the Packers got MANY MORE, and calls that took Giants points off the board and put points on the board for the Packers that should not have been.

  75. johngaltwho says: Dec 4, 2011 11:10 PM

    redbeardxxv says: Dec 4, 2011 10:26 PM

    It was obviously not a fair catch signal, but for the sake of argument, lets say it was. In that case, 2 packers should have gotten calls for tackling a return man after he signaled for a fair catch.

    ————————————————————–

    Guess you didnt hear the NFL official explain that when a punt receiver raises his hand above his shoulder, it is by definition a fair catch signal.

    As for Karma, I was at Lambeau in the -20 windchills when the giants took advantage of a few breaks and got a big win. In football, some times you win, and some times you play against Aaron Rodgers. We like Karma too.

  76. Little Earthquake says: Dec 4, 2011 11:10 PM

    You people whining about the Jennings TD need to consult the rulebook. You’re thinking of when a receiver falls to the ground, a la Calvin Johnson 2010. Jennings’ TD was good.

  77. dhoier says: Dec 4, 2011 11:12 PM

    redbeardxxv has, apparently, never read an NFL rulebook.

  78. gcsuk says: Dec 4, 2011 11:13 PM

    redbeardxxv says:
    Dec 4, 2011 10:26 PM

    It was obviously not a fair catch signal, but for the sake of argument, lets say it was. In that case, 2 packers should have gotten calls for tackling a return man after he signaled for a fair catch. 2 counts of unnecessary roughness is what? 15 yards each? 15+15= 30, much better than the 16 yards he originally got. Come on, don’t try to argue that the Giants got any calls… they lost a TD the probably should have gotten, and the Pack got one they shouldn’t have. Officials gifted this game to the Pack. It’s ok, Karma’s a B****.
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    As Keyshawn would say: “COME ON, MAN!”. You can’t “stack” penalties on top of each other. Even if 2 guys run into/interfere with a fair catch, the refs aren’t going to add 15 + 15 to make a 30 yard penalty. One would be declined, one would be accepted.
    You ain’t no football fan.

  79. gcsuk says: Dec 4, 2011 11:15 PM

    pack13queens0 says:
    Dec 4, 2011 10:39 PM
    Hey New York, now that’s the REAL A-Rod you saw today. Best athlete in the world bar none. There is not a team in the NFL that can even compete with the Pack. 19-0.
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    Yep, no team can compete. Except maybe the Giants, who had the game tied with less than a minute to go. I would say the game was pretty competitive.

  80. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 4, 2011 11:15 PM

    ggbblue says: Dec 4, 2011 8:58 PM

    Is there some reason Rodgers’ INT is not mention in this article, but Eli’s is? Rodgers was picked off–a bad decision that resulted in a Giants touchdown. WTF is with this BS from the media. Be fair. Manning made an error? Rodgers made the same exact error. GREAT game by Manning and Rodgers. That’s the way you play QB. It’s pretty clear that Rodgers has the better team around him and is playing incredible. But Manning very well could have had that game. These two are going to have some epic battles.
    ————–

    It was reported the same way verbally post-game as well. “Blackburn made a play”, but “Eli threw an interception”. It’s not even subtle anymore.

  81. dfinpds says: Dec 4, 2011 11:17 PM

    No such thing as unneccessary roughness if a player tries to advance a ball on a fair catch if you tackle him….his hand was above his head but not waved………illegal fair catch signal…..play is immediately dead………and if it was a personal foul, (which it wasn’t) only one can be accepted….next nonsensible point?

  82. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 4, 2011 11:18 PM

    zaggs says: Dec 4, 2011 8:45 PM

    “shibbyleigh says: Dec 4, 2011 8:31 PM

    What about Finley getting pushed around almost every play beyond five yards, one blatant on third down in which Rodgers tried to hold the ball back when he got knocked down 12 yards down the field.”

    How about Finley pushing off every play. That illegal contact penalty against Williams? Who else has their arms fully extended? Finley.
    Not to mention, can the Packers secondary cover without holding? Giants last 3rd and out, 1st play, Nicks had the scrub corner beat, the corner is holding for dear life, no call. No holding and NIcks is gone for a TD. Last Giants drive before Cruz’s big catch, scrub packer falling down, grab’s cruz’s jersey, again no call. Nick’s big catches were while he was being held or interfered with. No calls all around.
    Oh and when the ex head of officiating says the Ballard catch should have been a TD, odds favor it was not called correctly.
    ————-

    Not sure why you’re getting all these thumbs down, or what game these cats were watching, but I saw what you saw, and I hate when my guys lose due DIRECTLY to biased officiating.

  83. yodelpoo says: Dec 4, 2011 11:19 PM

    That was a fun game to watch. Tipping my cap to the packers and Rodgers. Great team and Aaron’s a great player.

    The NY Giants defense gives me chest pains. Frustrating to watch.

  84. jjv2012 says: Dec 4, 2011 11:21 PM

    redbeardxxv says: Dec 4, 2011 10:26 PM

    “It was obviously not a fair catch signal, but for the sake of argument, lets say it was. In that case, 2 packers should have gotten calls for tackling a return man after he signaled for a fair catch. 2 counts of unnecessary roughness is what? 15 yards each? 15+15= 30, much better than the 16 yards he originally got. Come on, don’t try to argue that the Giants got any calls… they lost a TD the probably should have gotten, and the Pack got one they shouldn’t have. Officials gifted this game to the Pack. It’s ok, Karma’s a B****.”

    ——————————————

    Fair catch or not, your argument is pretty weak. Since the officials did not blow a whistle to stop the play, it would not be unnecessary roughness for hitting/tackling the returner. It actually would be necessary so that the returner does not score a touchdown.

  85. packerbacker12 says: Dec 4, 2011 11:22 PM

    Could you whiners just shut it already? Good god nearly every comment on this story is complaining about the refs. The Packers won and the Giants lost. Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.

  86. ampatsisahypocrite says: Dec 4, 2011 11:24 PM

    Finley pushed off all game. The calls were horrendous in Green Bay’s favor, and only a biased Packers fan would say otherwise. As for “pack13queens0″ — I’d say with your lame excuse for a defense, pretty much every team in the NFL will be able to compete from now on. Maybe next time, you don’t get bailed out by the refs though.

  87. packerbacker12 says: Dec 4, 2011 11:25 PM

    “philyeagles5 says: Dec 4, 2011 8:39 PM

    give me a break. their defense gave up 35 points. they won by 3. lets not get carried away.”

    Funny how a Eagle fans says “Let’s not get carried away”.

  88. ampatsisahypocrite says: Dec 4, 2011 11:26 PM

    P.S. The “REAL A-Rod” and his cheesy annoying pseudo-WWF belt shtick is fast becoming the most despised and irritating thing in sports.

    And that’s the whole country talking, not just New York, chum.

  89. qoojo says: Dec 4, 2011 11:46 PM

    Judging by the ref whining in here, I am guessing that many Vikings fans jumped ship to the Giants.

  90. dadaubs says: Dec 4, 2011 11:54 PM

    “It was obviously not a fair catch signal, but for the sake of argument, lets say it was. In that case, 2 packers should have gotten calls for tackling a return man after he signaled for a fair catch. 2 counts of unnecessary roughness is what? 15 yards each? 15+15= 30, much better than the 16 yards he originally got.”

    Was there a whistle? I didn’t think so.

    However, if it was an “illegal fair catch signal”, there should have been a penalty.

  91. supermariojosh says: Dec 5, 2011 12:21 AM

    Where were you Giants fans whining about the refs on Tyree’s miracle SB catch while the entire Giants O-line was holding so Eli could escape? There are bad calls in every game. Get the hell over it! The calls in this game DID go both ways whether you want to admit it or not. Put on your big girl panties and go out and beat Dallas next week if you want to do something about it. Ugh.

  92. onegamedoesnotaseasonmake says: Dec 5, 2011 12:28 AM

    Giants have other issues besides the refs in this game.

    6-6 and they may not get in the dance. If they had beaten Seattle at home, they’d be 7-5 and right in the thick of things.e

    Am a longtime fan. They always play down to the level of their opponent. and at home….to me, this is Coughlin’s fault…and the play calling at times…Gilbride needs to go as well.

    Enough complaining about the refs….that’s what the jets and their fans do!

  93. wafflestomp says: Dec 5, 2011 12:52 AM

    Scoreboard.

    (I will pause now for the inevitable continuation of your pathetic whining.)

  94. packerbacker12 says: Dec 5, 2011 1:04 AM

    “Maybe next time, you don’t get bailed out by the refs though.”

    No the Packers were bailed out by a quarterback that goes by the name of Aaron Rodgers. So instead of making up excuses, just admit the Giants couldn’t stop Rodgers when they needed to most.

  95. gimmeabruschi says: Dec 5, 2011 2:05 AM

    I have no love for the Giants, but the officials handed the Pack this one. Disgraceful.

  96. beltmerica says: Dec 5, 2011 2:28 AM

    You have got to be kidding me with blaming the refs, Giants fans… In every single game you see a multitude of penalties that do not get called correctly or at all. Have some class and accept defeat, I suppose that should be getting easier for you. As for the fair catch play, and the Jennings TD catch, check the rule book and then your reading comprehension skills and think about these ridiculous comments again. Ballard’s knee landed out of bounds, yes it was close but it was reviewed and upheld, shut up. As for anything Mike Pereira says, that guy is wrong non-stop so don’t take too much stock in anything that moron or Buck and Aikman have to say. 12-0

  97. jjbadd says: Dec 5, 2011 3:53 AM

    Hey, Tebow had some drops today too, including one on the goaline that would have been a td! He’s learning to pass people! PS- i know this has nothing to do with the Packers/Giants.. IM TROLLING!

  98. childressrulz says: Dec 5, 2011 4:49 AM

    6ball says: Dec 4, 2011 8:15 PM

    .

    Valiant effort by Giants ….absolutely hated the illegal contact penalty called on key 3rd down sack by Paul.
    ____________________________
    You are right that was a make up call for the series before when it should have been called.

  99. truthserum4u says: Dec 5, 2011 5:59 AM

    drewsylvania says:Dec 4, 2011 8:52 PM

    Folks, the refs missed at least two illegal contact penalties against Giants D.

    Stop whining about calls.

    ——————————————————-

    The GB defense averages more than that per drive.

    And I find it funny that people like packerbacker12 are telling others to stop complaining about the refs. This coming from the same fanbase that still can’t let go of the calls at the end of their playoff loss to Arizona a couple of years back.

    Now as a Viking fan, I will say it was tough to overturn the Ballard catch based on the replay, and I thought Jennings had control long enough for it to be a touchdown.

  100. truthserum4u says: Dec 5, 2011 6:12 AM

    Mr. Wright 212 says:Dec 4, 2011 11:18 PM

    zaggs says: Dec 4, 2011 8:45 PM

    “shibbyleigh says: Dec 4, 2011 8:31 PM

    What about Finley getting pushed around almost every play beyond five yards, one blatant on third down in which Rodgers tried to hold the ball back when he got knocked down 12 yards down the field.”

    How about Finley pushing off every play. That illegal contact penalty against Williams? Who else has their arms fully extended? Finley.
    Not to mention, can the Packers secondary cover without holding? Giants last 3rd and out, 1st play, Nicks had the scrub corner beat, the corner is holding for dear life, no call. No holding and NIcks is gone for a TD. Last Giants drive before Cruz’s big catch, scrub packer falling down, grab’s cruz’s jersey, again no call. Nick’s big catches were while he was being held or interfered with. No calls all around.
    Oh and when the ex head of officiating says the Ballard catch should have been a TD, odds favor it was not called correctly.
    ————-

    Not sure why you’re getting all these thumbs down, or what game these cats were watching, but I saw what you saw, and I hate when my guys lose due DIRECTLY to biased officiating.

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Its what Green Bay fans do. Doesn’t matter how much reality is shoved in front of them, they hit thumbs down if it is remotely negative about their beloved Packers. Facts & truth be darned.

  101. dv1985 says: Dec 5, 2011 6:28 AM

    I’m not a Packer fan, nor a Giant fan, but I love the game of football, especially games like the one played by these two teams yesterday afternoon. When your team loses a heartbreaker like that it’s easy to point fingers and place blame on refs. The truth is (in my opinion) that both teams had some bad calls and both teams had some penalties that should have been called against them.

    I agree with both of the highly debated touchdown calls. I also believe that had either play been ruled the opposite, then they would not have been overturned. Sometimes the ball (or flag) bounces in your direction, sometimes it bounces the other team’s direction, that’s football and deep down we all know that to be true.

    Both teams played their asses off and both teams should be very proud. The Packers clinched a playoff spot which was a goal at the beginning of the season, not going 16-0, although they certainly are playing to win every game, that’s every team’s goal each week. And the Giants lost, however I think this game is going to give them the momentum to go on a run just like the season finale against the Patriots in 2007. I believe the Giants will sweep Dallas because of the confidence this game provided them, and they will most likely get their revenge on Washington for the first game of the season.

    It was a damn good ball game. Both teams have something good to take away from this game, but only one team gets the W, and that’s the team that’s won 18 games in a row.

  102. snarkzilla says: Dec 5, 2011 7:13 AM

    >However, if it was an “illegal fair catch signal”, there should have been a penalty.

    Actually the rules state that any undue advance by a fair catch receiver is delay of game. No specific distance is specified for undue advance as ball is dead at spot of catch. If player comes to a reasonable stop, no penalty. For penalty, five yards.

    Receivers arm was higher than his head = fair catch signal. Giants caught a significant break there.

  103. bigdicebuddha says: Dec 5, 2011 7:18 AM

    Refs outduel Giants

  104. packfaninchitown says: Dec 5, 2011 7:52 AM

    19-0 baby.

  105. bigbluefan1 says: Dec 5, 2011 8:23 AM

    Not going to say there were bad calls as there are always bad calls.
    But I will say this the Packers will not repeat they will not even get to the big game.
    The Saints are a better all around team and if they get another shot at the Packers they will win.
    Now what I will complain about are all the Giants fans that sold there tickets to all these place chesse wedge fools the chesse heads were out in force and they are what you would expect from fans that only have one thing to do in there lives.

    For my fellow season ticket holders you sold your tickets missed a great game

  106. giantspunk213 says: Dec 5, 2011 8:30 AM

    I’m actually really happy that Rodgers has taken his game to this elite level, the guy had a rough going to begin his nfl career with falling in the draft and then all the Favre drama, and then there was that golf incident where the kid didn’t want his autograph haha, that was pretty brutal, but he’s the best in the game right now and it’s gonna take a team at their best to even have a shot against em

  107. hodag54501 says: Dec 5, 2011 8:41 AM

    I’ve been a Packers fan since 1961. Of course I want them to go 19-0, but there’s two teams that have a shot at beating the Packers in the regular season.
    First one(don’t laugh) the Raiders.
    Why?
    The Raiders can run the ball. After watching game after game of Packers wins, it’s clear a team with a ball-control ground game can do it. Theory: keep Aaron Rodgers on the sidelines. The Packers defense isn’t that good. They outscore people more than defeat them. A running game and some defense could do it.
    The Lions: yes, it’s Lambeau in December. But the Lions have the offense to match Green Bay and have enough defense to put a wrench in the undefeated plans.
    Bears: If Cutler and Forte were there, maybe. Now, not a chance.
    Go Pack Go!

  108. vegaskid21 says: Dec 5, 2011 8:46 AM

    Rogers made that last drive look way too easy. Still a good game to watch.

  109. nflofficeadmin says: Dec 5, 2011 9:25 AM

    I’m not feeling so certain of the perfection. GB is a beatable football team. One bad pick 6 OR a questionable Jennings touchdown call make up more than the point differential in this game.

  110. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 5, 2011 12:06 PM

    vegaskid21 says:
    Dec 5, 2011 8:46 AM
    Rogers made that last drive look way too easy. Still a good game to watch.

    ———

    Fewell having a STREET CB in MAN against their most dynamic receiver on the Packers’ last two drives — when he refused to play man most of the season — made that last (two) drives look way too easy for Rodgers.

    FIXED.

  111. chas88 says: Dec 5, 2011 12:57 PM

    Can Eli get ANY credit? All I keep hearing today of how Rodgers is so great because of this, blah blah blah. Manning went head to head with him all night, answering TDs with some of his own. As far as I’m concerned, Eli’s been leading some comebacks of his own lately (even against my Pats in the SB), and did exactly that at the end of this game. Too bad there was a lot of time left on the clock, but he did what he had to do to tie the game up. Just thought his effort is getting grossly overshadowed. Their stats for the evening were not particularly far apart at all.

  112. wicky888 says: Dec 5, 2011 2:00 PM

    I wouldnt call it biased officiating, just plain bad officiating. I see it every week in every game.

  113. packerbacker12 says: Dec 5, 2011 3:32 PM

    “And I find it funny that people like packerbacker12 are telling others to stop complaining about the refs. This coming from the same fanbase that still can’t let go of the calls at the end of their playoff loss to Arizona a couple of years back.”

    There might be some out there that are still bitter about that but I do know I am not one of them. I’ve gotten over that game such a long time ago. I do admit I was pretty pissed at the officials but I could care less about that game now.

  114. trapshoot says: Dec 5, 2011 4:10 PM

    The last drive by Rodgers was fun to watch if you’re a Packer fan; pure agony if you’re a Giant fan. It was pervection by Rodgers.

    Pack has got to figure out where their defense has disappeared to. Pass defense is abysmal and defense against the run not muchbetter

  115. stavreafavre says: Dec 5, 2011 4:17 PM

    Both teams had plenty of injuries, both teams caught some breaks and caught some shafts. Both of them fought hard and should be proud. Great game to watch. I think the Giants will make the playoffs; if they keep playing like that they should. Packers certainly have plenty of warts. It’s just that right now everyone else has a few more.

  116. gnarlswoodson says: Dec 5, 2011 5:49 PM

    giants fans being reasonable about the game i commend you, great game. giants fans crying and bashing the packers go get a waaaaburger and some french cries. and oh i know u guys lost to the patriots 38 35 and then beat them in the super bowl, but remember, this isnt 2007 anymore. come to think of it, its not 1986 anymore either. take off the banks carson taylor simms and bavaro jerseys already! yeesh!. maybe if you guys were good enough to beat vince young or charlie whitehurst you wouldnt have to cry so hard about losing this game. and dont worry about our defense, we’ll be just fine. worry about your defense giving up 100 points in 2 weeks.

  117. deconjonesbitchslap says: Dec 6, 2011 12:45 AM

    there has got to be somebody on this planet that can teach defensive backs how to cover man-man.

    quality defensive back coverage is at an all time low in this league. only 1 or 2 guys in the entire league can truly shut down a receiver. that’s abysmal.

  118. truthserum4u says: Dec 6, 2011 7:27 AM

    packerbacker12 says:Dec 5, 2011 3:32 PM

    There might be some out there that are still bitter about that but I do know I am not one of them. I’ve gotten over that game such a long time ago. I do admit I was pretty pissed at the officials but I could care less about that game now.

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    Cool!

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