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Giants have mixed reaction after loss to Green Bay

Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers greets New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning on the field following their NFL football game in East Rutherford Reuters

The score was hard to ignore.  The Giants came up short 38-35 at home against an unbeaten team.

That type of loss helped propel the Giants four years ago, so perhaps the team could take something positive out of their loss to the Packers on Sunday?  Surely the loss by the Cowboys helped cushion the blow.

The attitude from the Giants depended on who you listened to.

“I learned a lot about this team,” safety Antrel Rolle told Newsday’s Tom Rock with a smile. “Everybody as a whole, the coaching staff, players, we have faith in each other. We went out there and we fought and we gave the Super Bowl champs a run for their money. And we will see them again. We will see them again.”

That was the positive angle. Defensive lineman Chris Canty was glum.

“We didn’t make enough plays to be successful, and at the end of the day, that’s all that matters,” Canty said. “We have to get a win. This football team just needs to win a game.”

Tom Coughlin said there are no such things as moral victories.

“There’s no solace in playing well and losing,” Tom Coughlin said. “We’re way past that.”

Then again, Coughlin was generally upbeat and optimistic overall. He said he thought the loss could “pull us together.”  Defensive end Dave Tollefson couldn’t forget Green Bay’s final drive.

“Eli [Manning] and the offense do a great job, go down there and score to tie us up and we just — pffft,” Tollefson told Mike Garafolo of the Newark Star-Ledger. “Come on now, we’re better than that.”

They have four games left to prove it. The one fact all Giants can agree on: All the losses from NFC contenders helped the team out.

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  1. skins23 says: Dec 5, 2011 8:39 AM

    If only there was a way to bet on the Giants 2nd half collapses. It is thrilling every year though to see the Giants fans get so excited in the first couple months when they play cupcakes and get every bounce and break. Then reality sets in.

  2. 700levelvet says: Dec 5, 2011 8:39 AM

    Does Antrel Rolle ever shut up?

  3. sippindasyzurp says: Dec 5, 2011 8:40 AM

    The problem is they now gotta hit the road and beat the Cowboys, which is always a tough task no matter how bad Dallas played yesterday… And if they lose that game you can turn out the lights cause 7 losses is not making the Wild Card.

  4. i3addog says: Dec 5, 2011 8:43 AM

    The Packers had an off day and still won. What does that say about the Giants ? However, the Packers defense better get their own ship together because that kind of performance won’t get you far in the playoffs.

  5. greenpacker says: Dec 5, 2011 8:50 AM

    Come on now Tollefson, you know youre really not better than that

  6. snarkzilla says: Dec 5, 2011 8:54 AM

    Last year the Packers loss (behind Flynn) at New England and the 9-0 slog with the Jets at the Meadowlands convinced the Packers that the team was “pretty good” and could make a run despite all the guys on IR. Giants fans have some reason to hope.

  7. righton989 says: Dec 5, 2011 8:54 AM

    From a 5-3 start, followed by 1-4 and enough momentum to lose their remaining 4 games and finish the season 6-11. Great job! Can I get my bonus now?

  8. yodelpoo says: Dec 5, 2011 8:56 AM

    Injuries, coaching..whatever. The Giants can’t depend on their defense to get a stop when it counts. It’s been happening all season.

    If they win any of the next 4 games, it will probably be because Eli bailed them out……again.

  9. pkrjones says: Dec 5, 2011 8:57 AM

    The Giants played a great game, yesterday. IF they can muster that attitude/play every Sunday and win-out they’re in the playoffs. Time for some leaders (besides Michael Strahan) to step forward and get this team UP every week.

  10. theklitch says: Dec 5, 2011 8:58 AM

    Great game… Seemed the refs were slightly one-sided.. what is theklitch?

  11. pencilmonkeymagic says: Dec 5, 2011 8:59 AM

    Four game slide, 131 points shipped and folk are talking about playoffs. Righto.

  12. bspurloc says: Dec 5, 2011 9:07 AM

    they lost because of one thing….
    Eli pick 6.
    Maybe Tebow needs to teach Eli how not to be stupid but it is too late.

  13. notrelated says: Dec 5, 2011 9:13 AM

    Haha, Giants hanging onto “moral” wins. A loss is a loss.

  14. jerseyshoregiant says: Dec 5, 2011 9:19 AM

    skins23 says:
    Dec 5, 2011 8:39 AM
    If only there was a way to bet on the Giants 2nd half collapses. It is thrilling every year though to see the Giants fans get so excited in the first couple months when they play cupcakes and get every bounce and break. Then reality sets in.
    ———————————————-

    Interesting comment from someone who hasn’t been excited about their team in 15 years!

  15. east96st says: Dec 5, 2011 9:22 AM

    “It is thrilling every year though to see the Giants fans get so excited in the first couple months when they play cupcakes and get every bounce and break. Then reality sets in.”

    Not as thrilling as seeing the Skins in last place – AGAIN. Thank you, skins23, for being such a miserable troll. I USED to feel bad about the Skins. A once proud franchise laid low by a clown of an owner. For the most part, the fans of the Cooke era Skins were a fairly classy group (men dressing up as women and wearing pig snouts aside) and no one could question the quiet dignity of Gibbs. The difference between the knowledgeable fanbase in DC and the morons from Philly and Dallas was refreshing. Now, you have proven with a clownish owner comes clownish fans. As Snyder has debased the Skins, you have debased the fanbase. Thank you. I no longer feel any pity for your miserable organization and I sincerely hope it’s another decade on the bottom for your favorite team and I truly hope that Snyder outlives you. It’s exactly what you deserve.

  16. jbl429 says: Dec 5, 2011 9:22 AM

    skins23 says:
    Dec 5, 2011 8:39 AM
    If only there was a way to bet on the Giants 2nd half collapses. It is thrilling every year though to see the Giants fans get so excited in the first couple months when they play cupcakes and get every bounce and break. Then reality sets in.

    —-

    That’s funny, it’s exactly how Redskins fans are, except their hype is in the offseason, and it usually crumbles by mid-September. At least the Giants are fun to watch. Skins…uh, not so much.

  17. 700levelvet says: Dec 5, 2011 9:25 AM

    Does Rolle realize the Giants have given up nearly 90 points and a 1,000 yards of offense in the last two games? What did you learn? “Faith in each other”?…Really? Just go count the money you are stealing….

  18. mvp43 says: Dec 5, 2011 9:26 AM

    Great game to watch for sure. As far as the officiating goes, there were some iffy calls on both sides. In no way do I think the Packers got more calls though………..The Jennings catch was probably the most controversial but if you understand the rule, it was a catch- he had control of the ball.

  19. zaggs says: Dec 5, 2011 9:28 AM

    “bspurloc says: Dec 5, 2011 9:07 AM

    they lost because of one thing….
    Eli pick 6.
    Maybe Tebow needs to teach Eli how not to be stupid but it is too late.”

    Guess then Tebow needs to teach the same to Aaron Rodgers as his pick was basically a pick six as well.

  20. kidpresentable says: Dec 5, 2011 9:29 AM

    “Great game… Seemed the refs were slightly one-sided”

    Maybe the Cowboy, Eagles, and Skins fans can help me out, have Giants fans always been this whiny? Not just theklitch, but every one of them on the story about the game posted last night seemed to be whining about the officiating. I thought most of the calls evened out as far as illegal contacts, PIs, etc. that went called or uncalled. As far as the plays that went to replay, learn these words: indisputable visual evidence. Without those three words, you cannot overturn a call on the field.

  21. zaggs says: Dec 5, 2011 9:32 AM

    “i3addog says: Dec 5, 2011 8:43 AM

    The Packers had an off day and still won.”

    They were going against a team that had a rookie linebacker, a linebacker who was a street free agent a week ago, and Will Blackmon in coverage. Yet they still almost lost? Thats more than “off”.

  22. boston99 says: Dec 5, 2011 9:39 AM

    Skins fans have no business commenting on anything to do with the Giants(or any other legit NFL team) until they are back in the NFL. Is Joe Gibbs coming back soon? Its hard to collapse when you are NEVER in the conversation in the first place. Any Giant fan with any brain knows that the lack of an impact linebacker since 2007 is the main problem with the defense and what has kept them from being able to stop teams when it matters. They simply cant stop a good QB with those LBs and it wont change until they add a real one.

  23. tylerdurden0 says: Dec 5, 2011 9:40 AM

    It was the most poorly officiated game I’ve ever seen. I was there and even the limited replays they showed were clear that the ref’s were told by someone to help Green Bay stay undefeated. Simply unacceptable officiating.

  24. greymares says: Dec 5, 2011 9:43 AM

    kidspresentable: not only are they whiny most of them don’t have the intelligence God gave a snail.(east96thst and Mr Wright212) come to mind. not to mention the #1 fan and writer to this site. I can’t mention his name i’ ll get deleted again.

  25. yodelpoo says: Dec 5, 2011 9:43 AM

    kidpresentable says:
    Dec 5, 2011 9:29 AM
    “Great game… Seemed the refs were slightly one-sided”

    Maybe the Cowboy, Eagles, and Skins fans can help me out, have Giants fans always been this whiny? Not just theklitch, but every one of them on the story about the game posted last night seemed to be whining about the officiating. I thought most of the calls evened out as far as illegal contacts, PIs, etc. that went called or uncalled. As far as the plays that went to replay, learn these words: indisputable visual evidence. Without those three words, you cannot overturn a call on the field.

    ————————–

    All and I mean ALL fans are whiners. The officiating made me scratch my head, but whatever. What happened happened.
    I’m more upset with the Giants defense, as usual.

  26. govtminion says: Dec 5, 2011 9:47 AM

    I’ll echo the comments about the officials. It felt like everything fell towards the Packers- Giants lost every challenge, when a player’s foot had to be checked to see if he was inbounds or not it was always ‘no’ for the Giants and ‘yes’ for the Packers- hell, they didn’t even review some of the Packers plays.

    I’m not a fan of either team, but even I was getting pretty irritated at the Packers having the officials as their 12th man. I wanted to see a good football game, and while it was a very good one to the end it never felt like the Giants were given a chance.

  27. baroneski29 says: Dec 5, 2011 9:50 AM

    I think this game is going to give the Giants the confidence they need to win the division. It’s up for grabs. It’s kind of hard to beat Green Bay and the refs. They came pretty close to pulling it off.

  28. joetoronto says: Dec 5, 2011 9:54 AM

    Did anybody watching yesterday NOT say to themselves “Don’t rush, kill some clock” when the Giants had the ball with about 3 minutes left?

    Buck and Aikman said as much and for some strange reason, they Giants were hell bent on squeezing a play in before the 2 minute warning.

    I’m sorry but they should have ate up more clock and gave the Packers bugger all to work with.

  29. bigbluefan1 says: Dec 5, 2011 9:58 AM

    Eli tossed away an INT as did his royal highness arron rodgers both turned in to TD’s

    The problem with the Giants is not Eli and for a change it was not the running game it is the D 5 weeks ago they were all over Brady after that not a thing.
    We need not just a new OC but a new DC to right this ship.

    And yes the Giants may not make the playoffs this year and the Packers will but my guess is the pack will not beat SF or NO.
    NO has a D and a QB that can keep up with AR

    So for all you giant haters keep hating at least if the Giants fail I can watch 3 SB wins on DVD this winter can you?

  30. kidpresentable says: Dec 5, 2011 9:58 AM

    “They were going against a team that had a rookie linebacker, a linebacker who was a street free agent a week ago, and Will Blackmon in coverage. Yet they still almost lost? Thats more than “off”.”

    Yeah, but the Packers were going with backups at left tackle, right guard, running back, safety, cornerback, and both inside linebacker positions by the end of the game. At least five of those players should be back if the two teams were to meet again at Lambeau in January, so I wouldn’t get your hopes up that the Giants played them close yesterday. Given that the Giants have to win out, I wouldn’t get your hopes up anyway.

  31. jrmbadger says: Dec 5, 2011 10:10 AM

    Maybe Dave Tollefson shouldn’t be provoking one of the league’s best quarterbacks by mocking Rodgers’ belt celebration before the game is out of reach.

    Mess with the bull – you get the horns. Simple as that.

  32. mondzy805 says: Dec 5, 2011 10:11 AM

    They better beat those Cowgirls on Sunday night or their season is over.

  33. jrmbadger says: Dec 5, 2011 10:17 AM

    As far as the officiating goes, come to green bay and we’ll hook you up with some cheese to go with your whine.

    Finley and our wide receivers were getting mugged all night. The officials also missed a blatant jason pierre-paul launching on Mason Crosby’s missed field goal as time expired in the first half. That would have been a 15 yarder. I also saw several blatant holds by the Giants offensive line that weren’t called.

    I’d say the calls evened out. You lost. Get over it and stop whining. Just worry about Dallas next week.

  34. beedubyatoo says: Dec 5, 2011 10:38 AM

    The Packers’ cornerback left the gme because he was injured (Woodson-concussion). The Prince left to have Blackmon replace him because he was “tired”. I’m not sure why. He took a nap every time he saw a Packer receiver.

  35. kev86 says: Dec 5, 2011 10:41 AM

    Say what you will Giants bashers but you cannot deny that the Giants are still in control of their own destiny in the NFC East. Go Blue!

  36. worldwidebleater says: Dec 5, 2011 10:53 AM

    Then Tom Coughlin yelled “Get off my lawn!”

  37. weekendwarriorko says: Dec 5, 2011 10:55 AM

    I’ll be the first to say that Rodgers is a fantastic NFL QB, one of the best of all time but you can’t attribute a close game to just a bad game. The Giants harassed him all day, blocking passing lanes, getting in his face. JPP was jumping in his face on every throw. There were a couple of drops but also a lot of passes disrupted by pressure. The Packers won but don’t attribute the close score to a bad game by the Packers and not a good effort by the Giants.

  38. bigbluelou says: Dec 5, 2011 11:01 AM

    Was at the game; but it comes as a loss and thier 3rd in a row due to the defense not being able to get a stop. Can’t blame the offense in this one, you even had a Travis Beckum sighting! You can’t help the calls but it helps that all NFC teams in the hunt lost too. The Giants never make it easy.

  39. gpatch91 says: Dec 5, 2011 11:02 AM

    Dave Tollefson did the Aaron Rodgers belt /discount dbl check celebration and it bit another team in the ass again. Teams are 0-8 when someone mimics that celebration

  40. brewcrewfan54 says: Dec 5, 2011 11:04 AM

    Ya know the only real debatable call was the Jennings TD and I still think they got it right. And the chllenges where the Giants were ruled out of bounds and the Packers in bounds were ruled that way because the Giant player was out of bounds and the Packer player wasn’t.

  41. pigskinswag says: Dec 5, 2011 11:05 AM

    The good thing for the Giants is that Dallas, Atlanta, Chicago and Detroit all lost. It was a tough loss for the G-Men, but they have to move on and get ready to play Dallas. Winning both games against the Cowboys gives them the division, but even if they split they could still get in as a wild card. Chicago has no quarterback and now no offense without Forte, Atlanta is inconsistent, and Detroit is one of the most undisciplined teams in football (right up there with Tampa Bay).

  42. aapuglia says: Dec 5, 2011 11:19 AM

    anyone who watched that game and didn’t think the refs gave the game to GB is out of their mind. The first play to come to mind was the Jennings TD which was obviously being bobbled as the prince slapped it out of his hands. Then there’s the ridiculous illegal contact penalty on Williams guarding Finley, which was such a blantant bad call that even Buck and Aikman agreed was an errant call. As stupid as it may sound, it was the bad illegal contact that I believe set up the game winning drive by GB, as no Giant DB wanted to be flagged for an erroneous 40 yard pass interference penalty with 40 seconds to go in the game.

  43. rpiotr01 says: Dec 5, 2011 11:22 AM

    Giants fans have nothing to complain about re: the refs. That catch in the endzone by the TE, his knee hit the line very clearly. That’s out of bounds. Blame the TE for not dragging his other foot like he should have, then it wouldn’t be a question.

    Both catches by Driver, he had his toes right inside the line. Guy has been around forever, you don’t think he knows what he’s doing?

    Giants played really well yesterday and if they keep it up they’ll be in the playoffs. Just don’t whine about the refs, it’s lame.

  44. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 5, 2011 11:31 AM

    700levelvet says:
    Dec 5, 2011 8:39 AM
    Does Antrel Rolle ever shut up?

    ———–

    He’s right 90% of the time, jerk.

  45. mineallmine001 says: Dec 5, 2011 11:32 AM

    giants fans complain almost as much as vikings fans.

    Havent heard this much whining about officiating since the NFC Championship vikes/saints

  46. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 5, 2011 11:35 AM

    skins23 says:
    Dec 5, 2011 8:39 AM
    If only there was a way to bet on the Giants 2nd half collapses. It is thrilling every year though to see the Giants fans get so excited in the first couple months when they play cupcakes and get every bounce and break. Then injuries and accidental shootings set in and the Skins, who think fluky wins once a month begin to play like the cellar dwellers that they are, find themselves at the bottom of the NFC East, while the Giants either make the playoffs and make a decent run/win it all, or lose out on a once-a-century miracle ending to a game.

    ——————–

    FIXED.

  47. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 5, 2011 11:37 AM

    Dallas is beyond inconsistent. And unlike Green Bay, they can’t move the ball 8-10 times to get into the red zone per game without the Giants having massive turnover problems (not at all out of the question, of course, as a Giants fan I know better), but the reality is, the Giants can move the ball on Dallas all day through the air AND on the ground with AB back.

    And Fewell is coaching for his current job and his future, so we will see more of what we saw yesterday defensively. We will sweep Dallas and get revenge on Washington. The Jets game may make or break us, but winning that one would clinch another tiebreaker (common opponents) as the Jets beat these clowns Week 1.

  48. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 5, 2011 11:40 AM

    i3addog says:
    Dec 5, 2011 8:43 AM
    The Packers had an off day and still won. What does that say about the Giants ? However, the Packers defense better get their own ship together because that kind of performance won’t get you far in the playoffs.

    ———–

    OFF DAY??? Because the Giants forced them into it, you mean, right? They always drop 3-4 passes per game. That’s nothing new. Their defense gets shredded all game, nearly 400 yards per game, that’s nothing new (Giants had almost 450). I think the Packers are what they are. They have enough offense (and nuances therein) to beat anyone and overcome their defensive liabilities, but like New England, they do NOT want to see this Giants team again.

  49. drexelvol says: Dec 5, 2011 11:43 AM

    Did Tuck get his sweater from Mr. Rogers?

  50. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 5, 2011 11:44 AM

    mvp43 says:
    Dec 5, 2011 9:26 AM
    Great game to watch for sure. As far as the officiating goes, there were some iffy calls on both sides. In no way do I think the Packers got more calls though………..The Jennings catch was probably the most controversial but if you understand the rule, it was a catch- he had control of the ball.

    ———

    They overturned the same type of play when Manningham had a TD taken off the board earlier this year vs. BUF when the EXACT same thing happened. Just poor officiating. Williams was pushed by Finley, but gets an illegal contact, Driver was out of bounds, yes, that was at least 10-14 points difference.

  51. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 5, 2011 11:56 AM

    snarkzilla says:
    Dec 5, 2011 8:54 AM
    Last year the Packers loss (behind Flynn) at New England and the 9-0 slog with the Jets at the Meadowlands convinced the Packers that the team was “pretty good” and could make a run despite all the guys on IR. Giants fans have some reason to hope.

    ———

    Exactly, but the only people saying otherwise are Eagles, Cowboys, Redskins (???) and outta town, anti-New York, inferiority complex-having yokels who just want to see NY teams lose.

  52. dellied says: Dec 5, 2011 12:06 PM

    Lol Mr. Wright. So cute. Yeah if you miss the blatant chokehold put on BJ Raji for the Giant’s last TD, there’s another 4 points. Etc, etc, blah blah blah.

    “If” the Packers’ receivers didnt’ drop the like 10 passes that bounced off of their hands, there’s 2-3 more scores. “If” Rodgers saw that roving LB and didn’t throw what turned out to essentially be a pick six, there’s another 7 points. Who cares about hypothetical situations?

    The fact that remains is this. The Packers were down several key starters, just like yourselves. We had a rookie linebacker (just like you) and a street “Free agent” linebacker – both of our ILBs were out this week. Not to mention we’ve got a reserve LT and a 4th string OL playing right guard.

    The reason you guys kept burning our secondary for huge gains was because both of the safeties had to play low with man deep because Capers didn’t trust the rookie linebackers to stop Bradshaw (especially with one of them being woefully undersized). So they played a lot of man coverage with help in the box. If there’s a rematch (and that’s a HUGE “if”) it won’t go ANTHING like you saw yesterday. I’m laughing at this misconception because one of your retarded sports journalists actually wrote about how the Giants showed a “blueprint” on how to beat the Packers.

    Blueprint:
    -Hope they have massive injuries to their OL and LB corps.
    -Hope that Rodgers turns the ball over (even though he does less than once every 2 games)
    -Hope that the Packers beat themselves with nearly a dozen catchable passes dropped

    Yeah that’s a real recipe for suck-cess there, champs.

  53. brewcrewfan54 says: Dec 5, 2011 12:43 PM

    Mr Wrigfht You are super bitter aren’t you? News for you, Driver wasn’t out of bounds. Show me the angle that says he was and I’ll change my mind. Jennings TD was a catch. He had it in one hand and took 2 steps, Amakamura knocked it out too late. Maybe Manningham’s catch was the wrong call, this one wasn’t. The Finley illegal contact? Yeah that was iffy. And the Packers never drop as many passes as they did yesterday. The only yokel with an inferiority complex here is you. The Giants aren’t better than the Packers.

  54. Miller says: Dec 5, 2011 1:26 PM

    When will Tollefson and other NFL players learn that putting “the belt” on after a big play against the Packers only angers Rodgers and makes him play better?

  55. axespray says: Dec 5, 2011 1:55 PM

    “Eli [Manning] and the offense do a great job, go down there and score to tie us up and we just — pffft,” Tollefson told Mike Garafolo of the Newark Star-Ledger. “Come on now, we’re better than that.”

    gee… I thought we were the only team that had to be carried by our QB…

    man our defense sucks this season
    (aside from Clay and Raji)

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