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Archie Manning doubts that Peyton and Andrew Luck want to be teammates

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Peyton Manning has said that, by March, his future in Indianapolis will become apparent.  As the Colts close in on the ability to take Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck with the first overall pick in the 2012 draft, Archie Manning has provided the first tangible evidence to suggest that a divorce is coming.

Specifically, Archie doesn’t believe that Peyton and Luck will want to be teammates in Indianapolis.

“I don’t think it’d necessarily be great for either one,” Archie Manning told FOX Sports Radio’s Zakk & Jack Show on Tuesday.  “I think Andrew’s the type of mature player . . . he can walk right in.  I mean, these other three or four guys that are playing this year, [if] they can walk in and contribute, Andrew can, too. . . .

“We know Andrew well.  He comes down to our camp every year.  I used to play with his dad [Oliver]. . . .   I’m in New York, I heard from him last night.  Peyton’s also tried to help Andrew and kind of be a friend.  I doubt if either one want to play on the same team.”

It wasn’t an accident or a coincidence.  It was a clear sign that, if the Colts plan to take Luck, Peyton will be looking for a path out of town.  And for good reason.  With the first overall pick worth more than ever this year, Peyton surely would prefer that the Colts trade the rights to Luck for players and/or draft picks who could help Peyton win more Super Bowls.

Of course, it’s also possible that Archie has advised Oliver on the procedure for making a power play, which Archie did seven years ago when Eli Manning forced his way out of San Diego.  And so, if Andrew Luck makes it clear that he doesn’t want to play for the Colts, the Colts could keep Peyton.

Either way, this all needs to happen before early March, since the Colts owe Peyton another $28 million at that point.  If it doesn’t, there’s a chance that the Colts end up not with both players, but with neither.

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115 Responses to “Archie Manning doubts that Peyton and Andrew Luck want to be teammates”
  1. trbowman says: Dec 6, 2011 2:08 PM

    In other words, Peyton told me he doesn’t want to be on the same team as Luck.

  2. trbowman says: Dec 6, 2011 2:08 PM

    This is going to be the storyline of the off-season. That, and what Elway is going to do at QB.

  3. boilerup1869 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:09 PM

    How this plays out will reveal a lot about whether loyalty can ever truly exist in this unforgiving business.

  4. terrellblowens says: Dec 6, 2011 2:11 PM

    So Peyton could pull an Eli 8 years later? Cool

  5. jnbnet says: Dec 6, 2011 2:11 PM

    The best thing the Colts could do is draft Luck and trade Manning. How many years does Manning have left?…get something for him while you still can…draft the future QB…..use the picks you get from Manning to build around him and remain at or near the top of the leauge for another ten years or so.

  6. arbiterflick says: Dec 6, 2011 2:12 PM

    This sounds like nothing more than a veiled threat to the Colts not to draft Peyton’s replacement if they want to keep him happy.

    Archie should stay out of it. I’m sure Colts fans will agree.

  7. tombradysbaby says: Dec 6, 2011 2:12 PM

    The Colts won’t trade the rights to Luck. The writing is on the wall Peyton, and you can either take the reduction in salary and take the next year or two training Luck (and a shot at a last title), or you can try and move on and do a Brett Farve thing grasping onto any lifeline that you can.

  8. tednancy says: Dec 6, 2011 2:14 PM

    Archie needs to keep his mouth shut. These kinds of things may need to said, but behind the scenes.

    It just makes the Mannings look petty for Archie to say this sort of thing in public. If I were Peyton I’d ask Archie to zip it.

  9. uvmcatamounts says: Dec 6, 2011 2:16 PM

    Oh, how sweet it would be if the Colts trade Manning and Luck turns out to be a bust.

  10. captainwisdom8888 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:16 PM

    The vast majority of people believe it is as simple as this: The Colts have the #1 overall selection and they take Andrew Luck. I disagree.

    The Colts are gonna have to decide whether they are going to put their eggs in Peyton’s basket, or Luck’s basket, and they will show their allegiance to Peyton by trading the Luck pick to a team that’s begging for a savior QB. This way they can acquire extra talent through trading the pick that could set up Manning for 1 or 2 more shots at some ring-bling. The end. (No, honestly after Peyton I’m not sure Indy exists).

  11. fu7ur3pr00f says: Dec 6, 2011 2:17 PM

    Start the speculation right now.

    Peyton is going to the Jags, Vikings, Browns, Dolphins, or Redskins.

  12. realitypolice says: Dec 6, 2011 2:17 PM

    trbowman says:
    Dec 6, 2011 2:08 PM
    This is going to be the storyline of the off-season. That, and what Elway is going to do at QB.
    ===================

    Maybe they will be two parts of the same story.

    Hmmmmmm…………….

  13. upperdecker19 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:19 PM

    Guess Archie will try another power play, ala Eli. He’ll tell Indy that if they draft Luck, Peyton will refuse to play and veto any trade is coming.

  14. nflofficeadmin says: Dec 6, 2011 2:19 PM

    A lot of risk for the Colts no matter which option they choose. It’s safer to trade one of the two for a number of picks(/players) as an unknown.

  15. nzyme says: Dec 6, 2011 2:19 PM

    I gotta be honest here. Aaron Rogers and Brett Favre weren’t exactly the best of friends either but look how that turned out.

    No one is going to deny that Peyton is a great QB and a future Hall of Fame inductee but Polian has to do what’s right for the Franchise and if that means drafting Luck or Barkley so be it.

  16. teamocil19 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:20 PM

    I really don’t want to hear from Archie Manning another draft season.

    Give us wife Olivia. Eldest son Cooper. Some other family spokesman.

    2004 still feels like yesterday, so shut up, Archie.

  17. mas151 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:20 PM

    Note to Archie…go away, we’re tired of you.

  18. iplaybad says: Dec 6, 2011 2:21 PM

    You don’t draft a player number one overall to sit him.

    A-rod had the benefit of being a late first rounder behind Favre to grow as a player and become great. The Packers’ success and excellent draft pedigree allowed them the luxury of either trading the pick or taking the best player available before they took A-rod. The Colts are a defeated team who do not have any such luxuries. IF they take a player with the first pick, it must be someone who can make an immediate impact as a starter. It’d be an epic fail to draft Luck and expect to keep Manning.

    In case the Colts decide to keep P. Manning, they must extract supreme value later in the first round and with the additional value picks to be given by the trading team. The draft is THE way the best teams build their squads.

    The Colts are not in an enviable situation; either they give up one of the two best players in their organization’s history or they draft the future in his replacement. Unlike what many here fantasize about, Luck and Manning will NOT be teammates.

  19. KIR says: Dec 6, 2011 2:21 PM

    There are no can’t misses when it comes to picking a Franchise Qb’s. I guess these TV NFL experts are like TV ministers. They give millions hope. The last franchise QB who took his team to the Super Bowl (Aaron Rodgers) was drafted in 2005! Do you know how many QB’s were picked in the first round since then? And Rodgers was an afterthought not a can’t miss. When you go back and look at all of the QuarterBacks taken including the 1st. Round Qb’s it’s pretty incredible.

    The Colts would be fools to trade Peyton before they have seen Luck for AT LEAST 2 years. There were/are only 6 Franchise QB’s in the NFL over the last 12 years and 1 retired and the other (Peyton) missed the entire year. That leave 4 Brees, Rothlisberger, Brady & Rodgers. More teams get to the Super Bowl with a Qb who gets hot and a great defense and run game, fact.

  20. rushmatic says: Dec 6, 2011 2:21 PM

    Do people really think Peyton is done? I’m no Manning fan as the Pats are my team, but it seems to me that, barring any setbacks, Manning still has a couple years of good football left.

    People are already comparing Manning to Lord Favre in that he’s “grasping to any lifeline he can”?

    Come on…

  21. sundayisthebestday says: Dec 6, 2011 2:22 PM

    If Manning is 100%, Colts should keep him and trade the #1 selection for a boatload of picks to spend on all those holes that Manning has helped overcome all these years. The Polians owe Manning, one of the greatest of all time, at least one more ring.

  22. ppc50 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:23 PM

    “Peyton surely would prefer that the Colts trade the rights to Luck for players and/or draft picks who could help Peyton win more Super Bowls.”

    Funny comment. Manning has 1 Super Bowl win and he played very poorly, considering his “reputation”. In his other SB appearance, he threw a pick 6 to ice the game for the Saints. Overall, his playoff win/loss record is below .500. His team’s best players are getting old (Freeney, Wayne, and Clark) and there was little chance that they were going to the Super Bowl this year, with or without him. Regardless of draft picks, Manning will never win another SB with the Colts or, I don’t believe, any team. I commend him for dealing with his neck, but what SB quality team would give up their future for him? NY Jets (they have tried that before)? Miami?

  23. paleandpasty says: Dec 6, 2011 2:25 PM

    I doubt that too.

  24. turdfurgerson68 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:25 PM

    Let the Manning-to-Seattle rumors begin…

  25. turdfurgerson68 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:26 PM

    …or perhaps Manning-to-San Francisco?

  26. twitter:Chapman_Jamie says: Dec 6, 2011 2:28 PM

    For the love of Tebow please tell these stage dad’s to shut up!

  27. bmwaldrop says: Dec 6, 2011 2:29 PM

    “Peyton is going to the Jags, Vikings, Browns, Dolphins, or Redskins.”

    I would add the Jets to that list. Peyton no doubt wants to win another Super Bowl. Put him on that team with that defense and WR’s, dang, they’d be hard to beat (assuming Peyton can play like his old self).And no matter what Rex says, I’d bet they look for an upgrade over Sanchez this offseason.

  28. renorocker says: Dec 6, 2011 2:29 PM

    First off, who cares what Archie Manning thinks??

    Peyton, you already robbed the Colts this year to the tune of $20 million. You knew you were injured when you signed the contract.

    With any Luck, Andrew will go to an organization that wants him and doesn’t care what the older players parents say. Welcome to Arizona Mr Luck.

  29. cwby4evr says: Dec 6, 2011 2:31 PM

    When will the Manning boys just go ahead and hire their dad as their spokesman. Last week Archie was defending his daughter Eli when Aikman critiqued him.

  30. tedmurph says: Dec 6, 2011 2:32 PM

    fu7ur3pr00f says:
    Dec 6, 2011 2:17 PM
    Start the speculation right now.

    Peyton is going to the Jags, Vikings, Browns, Dolphins, or Redskins
    ————————————————–
    Why the hell would he go to one of those crap franchises. If it’s anywhere, it’s the jets.

    Cut that meat.

  31. macbull says: Dec 6, 2011 2:33 PM

    There is an owner who would love to have Peyton Manning as his QB and there is one coach who has earned respect in the NFL.

    Peyton Manning will own Washington DC and Danial Snyder and Mike Shanahan would do their best to make him feel welcome.

    Write it down…mac

  32. rusty81 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:35 PM

    I’m pretty sure the Colts can’t trade Manning (without HUGE monetary impact). I could be wrong, but from the way the contract is reported, he is due the $28 million in March as a roster bonus, before trades are allowed. So in effect, to keep him to trade him, they’d have to give up that money, then turn around and trade him. What Manning did with his contract might have looked from the outside like he was “helping” the Colts if his injury didn’t clear up, in fact he was creating leverage for himself…Either pay me $28 million or cut me.

  33. rdawg911 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:36 PM

    Luck to the Colts, Peyton to….

    a) Chiefs
    b) Jets
    c) Fins
    d) Skins
    e) Browns

  34. realitypolice says: Dec 6, 2011 2:38 PM

    Let me be the first to pose a completely ridiculous but fun to consider scenario:

    The Broncos trade Von Miller, Tim Tebow, and a bunch of picks to Indy for the first pick, which they use on Luck.

    The Colts fire Caldwell, hire whoever Peyton tells them to, Tebow catches 100 passes from Manning next year as a bigger, faster, stronger Wes Welker-type, and the Colts become the first team in history to go from 0-16 to Super Bowl Champs in one year.

    Hey now!

  35. hrmlss says: Dec 6, 2011 2:38 PM

    Unless Manning can prove to the Colts he’s ready to play and not needing more surgery, they SHOULD take Luck. If he can prove he has it still, they should be ok for 2-3 more years. Then they can parlay the pick into a number of picks, and also pick up a developemental QB to GROOM for 2-3 years, not carry a clipboard like Painter.

  36. donz0 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:38 PM

    Nothing personal to Peyton and the Manning family. It’s just business.

  37. careerender56 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:41 PM

    How come nobody realize that Peyton has NO LEVERAGE!, if hte colts pick up his 28mil in March, then he is contracually obligated to play for them or retire. nothing is stopping hte colts from hedging their bets on Peyton’s health by drafting luck and hedging their bet on the bust potential of Luck by keeping Peyton.

    The only party in this with any leverage to make power plays are the colts, so it doenst really matter what Peyton or Luck wants.

  38. illiniftw says: Dec 6, 2011 2:41 PM

    You get paid millions of dollars to play a game….

    Funny he’d get so mad over 1 teammate on a 53-man roster!

  39. wannabeqb says: Dec 6, 2011 2:41 PM

    To those who are suggesting a Manning trade, it will not happen as things stand.

    The $28m bonus is due before the league year begins i.e. when trades can take place. Why would the colts pay $28m to someone they plan to trade immediately? They have to decide before then whether they go with just Luck or Manning & Luck.

    The only way a trade happens is if Manning chooses to defer the payment till after the league year starts.

  40. freewayjim says: Dec 6, 2011 2:42 PM

    If the Colts believe Luck is worth taking #1 and Manning refuses to give an extension on the great $28 Million decision (which is possible, he may try to force the Colts hand) then if I’m Jim Irsay (ewww) I say thanks for the memories and let Peyton Go.

    I don’t believe Peyton will ever be 100% again, he’s a year older and is past his prime as evidenced in 2010. I would do what’s best for my organization long term.

    You know that if Peyton is out there available some team like the Jets thinking they are a player away from a Super Bowl will jump all over him and pay $20 million a year for 2-3 years and it won’t end well.

  41. bopar411 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:44 PM

    So Payton wants to help the Colts and be there for the fans in any way he can … as long as he’s the star and focal point of the adulation. He won’t be there to help train up their anticipated new star QB who will replace him. Selfishness personified.

    Take the money and run Payton. It’s all about you.

  42. brutus9448 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:46 PM

    I hope manning is released. He goes where he wants and wins another superbowl. The colts take luck and he’s a bust. Now that would make for some good TV.

  43. bopar411 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:46 PM

    So Peyton wants to help the Colts and be there for the fans in any way he can … as long as he’s the star and focal point of the adulation. He won’t be there to help train up their anticipated new star QB who will replace him. Selfishness personified.

    Take the money and run Peyton. It’s all about you.

  44. getadealdonealready says: Dec 6, 2011 2:47 PM

    It will be a nice to have the NFL off-season soap opera machine back. I missed it last year. When your favorite team is rebuilding this is sometimes the best part, because during the off-season there is hope we can win the next year, while right now all hope is lost.

  45. fran021 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:47 PM

    Ah, Peyton. Such a team player. And people wonder why the Colts are 0-12.

  46. anthonybjones says: Dec 6, 2011 2:47 PM

    If Peyton Manning came to Seattle, I would be a season ticket holder until he retired.

    It’d be a tremendous privilege to see the quarterback that I consider the greatest of all time every Sunday.

  47. micronin127 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:47 PM

    It’s a little early to be talking about next year’s draft, unless you are the Colts and packed it in two months ago.

    Didn’t Manning just get clearance to practice? Why can’t he get out there and take some reps so that the Colts know what they’ve got.

  48. vincentbojackson says: Dec 6, 2011 2:48 PM

    What could go wrong? Look how tight Aaron Rogers and Brett Favre are to this day. They’re like brothers!

  49. smackingfools says: Dec 6, 2011 2:49 PM

    Please come to Miami!

  50. blue18hutthutt says: Dec 6, 2011 2:49 PM

    Colts fan here: shut up Archie

  51. southbeachtalent says: Dec 6, 2011 2:50 PM

    This is what irritates me to no end….

    Peyton has been great for that Franchise, an excellent team mate, a model citizen, a superbowl champ. And now because he’s hurt the organization is looking for his replacement. What loyalty. Funny thing most of you on here agree with management.

    Meanwhile LeBron leaves the hell whole that is Cleveland and he’s still hearing about it.. I can understand Cavs fans being upset, but the whole world? Just pure hate for an athlete that has options. Maybe we should change “We the People” to “We the Sheeple”.

    What a joke……………..

  52. giselleisasucubus says: Dec 6, 2011 2:51 PM

    rushmatic, if the pats(I’m a diehard too) fell to pieces & had this happen, how would you feel? Personally, if Luck is there, you have to take him. I dont care how much cap space it takes up. The Colts will cover up those holes again if Manning plays well, & then you have a franchise qb in waiting. Would anyone be surprised if Manning lost a little bit? He probably will. The Colts are the Spurs in 97. Tank job will extend their run to close to 25 years when it is all said in done. I am actually kind of pissed about it.

  53. franknunley57 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:52 PM

    The 49ers are THE BEST fit for Peyton. A team that is a quality qb away from being a true championship contender for the next 4-5 years.

  54. giselleisasucubus says: Dec 6, 2011 2:52 PM

    why take down my comment? I didnt swear, and I know you pft admins know I’m right…. Archie”Youth League Dad” Manning strikes again.

  55. tribeallica says: Dec 6, 2011 2:54 PM

    Nobody cares what Peyton’s daddy says. My dad quit talking for me a long time ago. Too mad Archie cant learn from normal fathers. Your sons are big boys. They can handle themselves. Noone wants to hear from you. I think Luck would benefit sitting behind Peyton for 1 or 2 years if thats what the Colts want.

  56. fjd10 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:54 PM

    These comments of Favre grasping at straws at the end of his career are unfair. At 38 and 40 he played at an MVP level. Why should he have retired. At 39 until he hurt his arm people were talking about an all New York Super Bowl at the 11 week mark because Favre had lifted a Jet team that had just the year before only had 4 wins. Show me which QB’s played at so high a level at 38, 39 and 40.

  57. earthtopft says: Dec 6, 2011 2:55 PM

    Peyton will scare the kid off with the “My Dad is bigger than your Dad!”, tactic.

  58. gmen1987 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:55 PM

    Archie needs to realize that Peyton is a middle aged man and can speak for himself.

    This is going to be karma for the Eli shinanigans. This time, though, the Colts are going to call the Manning’s family bluff and tell Peyton it’s been nice knowing you, time to move on.

  59. schmitty2 says: Dec 6, 2011 2:57 PM

    The Colts need to draft Luck. Peyton COULD come back and be great but he also could never be the same. Why gamble? Get a potential franchise QB while you can

  60. skinsrock says: Dec 6, 2011 3:00 PM

    Oh, I couldn’t go a season without Daddy chiming in on the boys. If I was Indy, I’d make the business decision & not the emotional decision & let Peyton go… You can pay Luck a lot less & actually build a team. Colts are going 0-16 & I don’t think Peyton was going to all of a sudden make them superbowl champs.

  61. mattyice2011 says: Dec 6, 2011 3:00 PM

    Obviously the colts will never learn …. Why would you risk the future and trade away luck just for peyton to have one or two more runs at a ring … The man is turning 36 just don’t make any sense to trade away the luck pick

  62. boswivel says: Dec 6, 2011 3:02 PM

    Daaaaaaaaaaaaaad!

  63. wenellniners says: Dec 6, 2011 3:03 PM

    In other words, Peyton told me he doesn’t want to be on the same team as Luck.

    _________

    agreed. i’m not a fan of this nebulous sort of strong arming by archie/peyton manning.

    a team that hasn’t won a game all year has the right to do what they see fit to insure the team’s long term competitiveness.

    this is a business. as great as he is, peyton is a player and archie is simply his dad. if i’m managing the team, i realize i have qb that has had chronic health issues and i’m looking out for the organization’s best interest.

    there were people that that said that green bay was crazy to get rid of brett favre and look how that turned out…

  64. blaz0037 says: Dec 6, 2011 3:04 PM

    The best thing the Colts could do is draft Luck and trade Manning. How many years does Manning have left?…get something for him while you still can…draft the future QB…..use the picks you get from Manning to build around him and remain at or near the top of the leauge for another ten years or so.

    ——————————————

    You are making the sweeping assumption that Luck is a sure thing. News flash, he isn’t. and even if he was, he is certainly not the next Peyton Manning.

    Amazing.

  65. usmutts says: Dec 6, 2011 3:05 PM

    I watched in disbelief when CBS interviewed Manning and asked him if the Colts took Luck, would Peyton work with him and help him. Manning talked all over himself and never said he would be willing to help the kid. Never said it. Not once.

    Now I have no respect for Manning. I can’t tell you how disappointed I am in him.

    I know it’s unthinkable but I wish somehow the Colts could trade Manning to the Saints and let him ride the bench behind a real team player.

  66. blaz0037 says: Dec 6, 2011 3:05 PM

    The Colts need to draft Luck. Peyton COULD come back and be great but he also could never be the same. Why gamble? Get a potential franchise QB while you can

    —————————————–

    why gamble? you are taking a huge gamble letting Peyton go. Am I living in the twilight zone or something?

  67. rr2000k says: Dec 6, 2011 3:10 PM

    I wish this tool would shut up

  68. elmustardo says: Dec 6, 2011 3:10 PM

    It’s not enough that Archie can hijack the draft for Eli to get him where he wants, but now he trying to dictate where Luck goes?

    If I were Andrew, Id be on the phone right now telling Archie to pound sand. ” Don’t be trying to dictate my future you old ####. This is my draft, my dream, my future. Keep your opinions to yourself. You’re walking the line on a defamation suit. If I drop one single spot in the draft because of you words, you’ll be seeing me on your doorstep.”

  69. twitter:Chapman_Jamie says: Dec 6, 2011 3:19 PM

    There are two people this site doesn’t let you talk bad about: Archie Manning and Tony Dungy. You have to beat around the bush to fool the turd who approves comments.

  70. mightyleemoon says: Dec 6, 2011 3:21 PM

    Peyton’s game is cerebral, not physical. He has at least 5 years left in him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is still relevant as he approaches his mid 40s.

  71. orbearider66 says: Dec 6, 2011 3:28 PM

    @boilerup1869 … didn’t the Colts give Manning $16 or $18 million this season knowing that he wouldn’t be able to play because of neck surgery (or, worse, he hid that he needed neck surgery)? I think the Colts have shown more than enough loyalty to Manning.

  72. CKL says: Dec 6, 2011 3:29 PM

    They’ve treated PM like he runs the team for so long, is it any wonder if he thinks this??? His own GM will never ever ever criticize him publicly though he does with other aspects of the team.

    I believe PM loves being the big fish in a small pond so wherever else he may go, I don’t think he will be “one of the guys”. He certainly sounded mighty irritable when questioned about it before the Colts-Pats game.

  73. trapshoot says: Dec 6, 2011 3:32 PM

    No one knows how Payton will be after his recovery. Colts would be crazy not to go for Luck.

  74. beinhorntwins says: Dec 6, 2011 3:33 PM

    Philip Rivers, Sean Marrimen, & Nate Kaddings. or the only openly gay player in the NFL E.i Manning. i think the giants are regretting the trade.

  75. jaxxus says: Dec 6, 2011 3:33 PM

    It is just a little embarassing—-Archie pins a note to his boys’s shirts when they go to the NFL draft.
    It instructs the Comissioner as to which team he will accept for his youngsters.
    Tebow came with a note too———–but it was from a MUCH HIGHER POWER.

  76. lichnor says: Dec 6, 2011 3:35 PM

    southbeachtalent says: “And now because he’s hurt the organization is looking for his replacement. “

    No, they are looking for his replacement because he is hurt…..AND he will be 36 this March. Hurt and OLD.

    They see the writing on the wall. They will never be in a better position to draft his replacement than they are right now.

    Colts fans should sue Jim Isray if they do not take Luck @#1.

  77. brett76 says: Dec 6, 2011 3:36 PM

    Archie should shut up. If nothing else, this season proved the Colts need a real back up & they don’t have 1. You draft luck & let him sit on the bench for 3 years or whatever, just like the Packers did with Rodgers & Favre.

    Then when they part ways with Manning, Luck will have the system down & can come in & lead the team instead of being pounded into the ground as a rookie for a bad team.

  78. heyguru1969 says: Dec 6, 2011 3:36 PM

    I said it last week, I’ll say it again. “Stifle yourself, Archie” — Edith Bunker

  79. Patriot42 says: Dec 6, 2011 3:41 PM

    He could step in to the Chiefs job.

  80. touchdownroddywhite says: Dec 6, 2011 3:45 PM

    Way to go for the Manning’s screwing over the Colt’s royally. The Luck’s and the Manning’s are friends. Luck will pull the power play, Manning will get paid, and the Colt’s will delay rebuilding until after the team has been run completely into the ground by the Manning’s over priced contract…

    Yeah, he sure is a good ol’ fashioned team player, huh Colt’s fans??

  81. bravin4evr says: Dec 6, 2011 3:45 PM

    How much longer will people keep asking Archie questions? No one pays him any attention except reporters….some of the dumbest people in the world!

  82. httr73 says: Dec 6, 2011 3:46 PM

    If Payton can come back then why wouldn’t the strategy be:

    Trade out of the #1 spot (say down to 10th)

    Use that 10th pick on a QB of the future (who would benefit from sitting behind Peyton for a couple of years)

    Use newly acquired picks to fill the many other holes they clearly have

    In the end, you still get a QB of the future (no, it’s not Luck but there is no gaurantee on any QB you take) you keep Peyton (letting him finish out his career properly) and you strengthen your team around him and the future QB

  83. chris6523 says: Dec 6, 2011 3:47 PM

    With the exception of Roger Staubach, Hall of Fame quarterbacks tend to make poor mentors (Favre, Montana, Bradshaw, etc.)

  84. rooneyruleblues says: Dec 6, 2011 3:49 PM

    Archie Manning is a supreme douchbag.

  85. IMG says: Dec 6, 2011 3:50 PM

    I’m wondering how is it not embarrassing for the Manning brothers that their father has to speak about their career decisions in public.
    It’s ok for those discussions to be private, but it basically gives the impression they are still ‘Daddy’s boys’ and have no minds of their own

  86. hatesycophants says: Dec 6, 2011 3:51 PM

    This site has degenerated to a place where very poor writers cast likely irrelevant “pearls” before casual/fantasy football fans and let them drive themselves to distraction. The fact is that Archie gave his opinion about a situation where his opinion is of zero consequence. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Archie speaks for Peyton.

    You used to be able to have a fairly intelligent conversation with knowledgeable football fans around here. That has ended.

    Go Lions! Go Badgers!

  87. mcjon22 says: Dec 6, 2011 3:51 PM

    Ease up on Archie Colts fans, he’s just telling you what everybody else in the NFL already knew since October: The Colts will release Peyton or will trade the top pick.

    Sorry to bust your Favre/Rodgers pipe dream scenireo. Btw, Rodgers was taking 24th overall, not 1st. Not even a good comparison

  88. granadafan says: Dec 6, 2011 3:55 PM

    It’s always up to the older player to make the effort have a relationship with the younger player. From day 1, Lord Favre made it clear he hated Aaron Rodgers and refused to mentor, talk to, give advice, or train. Rodgers got along famously with every single player not named Favre. Meanwhile Brett had his own locker room and parking spot, alienating most of his teammates with his gigantic ego and tearing apart the organization with his constant retirements.

    I really hope Peyton doesn’t tarnish his legacy like Brett Favre by letting his ego from his gigantic head get in the way of the good of the team. He already robbed the Colts by signing that huge contract knowing full well he wasn’t going to play this year.

  89. das14 says: Dec 6, 2011 4:00 PM

    Peyton will start his own team , name it “Necked” and win the 16 super bowls.

  90. jmcgoblue says: Dec 6, 2011 4:00 PM

    If Peyton leaves he’ll be going to the Chiefs, Jets or 49ers. He won’t go to some crappy team…he wouldn’t do it by choice & there’s no way the Colts would do that to him. He’ll probably agree to delayed payment of his bonus, so the team has more time to evaluate his condition, and has an opportunity to trade him.

    Kansas City makes the most sense for Manning…they have about $30m in cap room available so money isn’t an issue, and they have young talent on both sides of the ball so it would be an attractive place from his perspective as well.

  91. bigal5654 says: Dec 6, 2011 4:00 PM

    In my opinion, Manning can’t go to another team and hope to get anywhere near a Superbowl (unless as a fan) in the next 3 years. Reason being, the Colts offense is a system and as we’re seeing this year, it’s not a simple system. Might help explain 0-12.

    If he were to go to another team, how many offensive lines can adapt to hurry up offense for the entire game? How long for the other team to get the right mix of receivers? How long to get the connection and timing with the receivers?

    Peyton is going to retire a Colt either in 2012 due to the injury or he’ll play it out. If he can play and if Luck wants to wait, the Colts draft him. Otherwise trade Luck to fill the needed holes. If Peyton’s done, draft Luck and move on.

  92. dannyreneau says: Dec 6, 2011 4:01 PM

    If Manning ends up in Seattle or KC i would poop myself with joy.

  93. SOBEIT says: Dec 6, 2011 4:02 PM

    Peyton is a grown man…kinda sad daddy has to get involved again.

  94. mrgroovesd says: Dec 6, 2011 4:07 PM

    Can Archie shut up? His sons are grown men, let them speak…oh wait they can’t. I can’t stand to hear him talk. Your career in the NFL is over. You should’ve been their agent if you do so much talking for them.

    Anyways, there’s 2 ways I see this playing out. Luck is drafted by Indy and Manning is traded for players and/or draft picks. Or Indy trades the first pick for players and/or draft picks and drafting a QB later in the 1st round. Just my opinion of what will happen.

    Oh yeah, SHUT UP ARCHIE.

  95. phinfan says: Dec 6, 2011 4:08 PM

    Well since Payton and Andrew are throwing out wish lists…. I guess I could always throw out my wish list:

    I WANT TO BUY SEASON TICKETS FOR A $1 :)

  96. fran021 says: Dec 6, 2011 4:13 PM

    With the exception of Roger Staubach, Hall of Fame quarterbacks tend to make poor mentors (Favre, Montana, Bradshaw, etc.)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~
    According to his teammates, Brady is an excellent mentor.

  97. realitypolice says: Dec 6, 2011 4:24 PM

    Wow.

    41 thumbs down and counting on my admittedly-ridiculous trade scenario between the Broncs and Colts.

    Lighten up, people!

    Good grief.

  98. croghan1919 says: Dec 6, 2011 4:44 PM

    1) Cuurrently the Colts cant do or say anything
    regarding draft picks per NFL rules.
    2) Currently no one knows if PM will be 100% by 3/28/12

  99. laeaglefan says: Dec 6, 2011 4:46 PM

    The Eagles should either trade with the Colts for the rights to draft Luck as the #1 pick or trade for Manning to try to finally bring a Super Bowl to Philly.
    Either way, it would make Eagles fans happy.
    Its obvious that nothing good is ever going to happen with Mike Vick at QB, so its time for the Eagles front office to REALLY play fantasy football.

  100. radrntn says: Dec 6, 2011 5:00 PM

    Peyton needs to accept reality, and that is he is in the last few years of playing, and Colts will still pay him a ton of cash to mentor Luck .

  101. steelerchicken says: Dec 6, 2011 5:12 PM

    What IF Luck does not declare for the NFL draft? What do you think the Colts will do? People are forgetting he can still return to Stanford!

  102. momentumtech says: Dec 6, 2011 5:14 PM

    Who cares if they want to be teammates?

    They are getting paid huge money to play friggin football. I am pretty sure after a good cry they will both get over it and learn how to live on with tens of millions of dollars in their pockets.

    You gotta be kidding me!

    Ideally the Colts would like to have Peyton for one more year to help mentor Luck but with $28 million payout coming soon, it will be the Colts decision to make. Although I bet they will try to offer a much smaller amount and then make Peyton out to be the bad guy if he decides to rebuff the reduced offer. Polian will pull out all of the PR tricks to put pressure on Manning to take a reduced salary. Otherwise they will have no money to sign some quality players that they need badly. Luck is just one piece of the puzzle for a team that needs to upgrade at offensive line, receiver, running back, secondary, linebacker, defensive tackle, etc.

  103. 2ndaryinsanity says: Dec 6, 2011 5:44 PM

    I’m 39 years old, and would be PISSED if either one of my parents presumed to speak for me. Since Archie continues to do this, Eli and Peyton must be okay with it. Pretty sad when grown men hide behind daddy and let him be the bad guy.
    Peyton has ALWAYS been about Peyton…why would he all of a sudden do what’s best for the Colts organization? The Colts gave him that new contract for one of two reasons: they acted in good faith, believing Peyton’s neck would not keep him from playing (despite the fact he hadn’t even been cleared to practice) OR they were just complete idiots (pretty likely,considering how the wheels have come off when Manning wasn’t masking a TON of problems).
    If Peyton can’t control his Favre-like ego, and believes that he should dictate who the Colts do/don’t draft…they should cut their losses and move on.
    Either way, I have ZERO respect for Eli and Peyton allowing their daddy fight their battles.

  104. schmitty2 says: Dec 6, 2011 5:58 PM

    blaz0037 says:
    Dec 6, 2011 3:04 PM
    The best thing the Colts could do is draft Luck and trade Manning. How many years does Manning have left?…get something for him while you still can…draft the future QB…..use the picks you get from Manning to build around him and remain at or near the top of the leauge for another ten years or so.

    ——————————————

    You are making the sweeping assumption that Luck is a sure thing. News flash, he isn’t. and even if he was, he is certainly not the next Peyton Manning.

    Amazing.

    News flash-how do you know he’s not a sure thing and how do you know he won’t have as good as a career as Manning??

  105. jessethegreat says: Dec 6, 2011 6:29 PM

    The Colts need to do what is best long term for their organization. It will obviously hurt to let a legend go, but as the saying goes, better to let go a year early than keep around too long or something like that.

    I’d expect to see Peyton sign with a team like the 49ers. Still don’t believe Smith is a franchise qb.

    I could also see him going to the Ravens. He’d be a drastic upgrade of Flacco if even for a short time.

    If Romo lets down again in the playoffs this year, I could also see the Cowboys making a move.

    Peyton will want to go to a contender. He’s not going to the Browns, Cardinals, Dolphins, or Seahawks.

  106. Fantasy Football Legend says: Dec 6, 2011 7:04 PM

    I think Andrew Luck is dumb if he wants to just take over at Indy and not watch greatness from Peyton Manning. This team is junk without Peyton and that DE has been junk for awhile that’s why Peyton has 1 ring. Peyton was just able to keep them scoring to stay ahead or get ahead. Of Luck comes in as the starter, in sure Indy will still have the 1st overall pick in 2013 as wel an maybe 2014 a top 5 pick unless they fix that DE and O-Line. Oh yeah maybe get a RB or just let Carter get better and better, Brown and Addai are done!!

  107. cpanthersfan says: Dec 6, 2011 7:55 PM

    Luck shoulda came out last year…serves him, his dad, Peyton, and Archie right with the crap they pulled last year. Now the Panthers got Cam, and they couldnt be happier. Luck will be good but he’s no Cam. Turns out the ones that won were the Panthers and Cam!

  108. jpb12 says: Dec 6, 2011 8:01 PM

    Sure hope Troy Aikman doesn’t say anything to hurt his feelings again

  109. moseszd says: Dec 6, 2011 8:06 PM

    Sigh. It reminds me of the fading Montana doing his best to shaft the rising Young… The more things change, the more they stay the same…

  110. jessethegreat says: Dec 6, 2011 9:41 PM

    Fantasy Football Legend says:
    Dec 6, 2011 7:04 PM
    I think Andrew Luck is dumb if he wants to just take over at Indy and not watch greatness from Peyton Manning. This team is junk without Peyton and that DE has been junk for awhile that’s why Peyton has 1 ring. Peyton was just able to keep them scoring to stay ahead or get ahead. Of Luck comes in as the starter, in sure Indy will still have the 1st overall pick in 2013 as wel an maybe 2014 a top 5 pick unless they fix that DE and O-Line. Oh yeah maybe get a RB or just let Carter get better and better, Brown and Addai are done!!
    ——————————————————–
    What? Your writing is incomprehensible. Go to the medicine cabinet and get your ritilin immediately. I’m not the grammar police, but do us all a favor and PROOF READ your writing before hitting Submit from now on. My three year old speaks with more fluent sentences.

  111. mrba4775 says: Dec 6, 2011 10:13 PM

    the 2012 draft will b the replica of the 1983 and 2004 draft, where the team that draft the player ended up being traded to the team with the 4th draft pick.

  112. jjbadd says: Dec 6, 2011 10:21 PM

    Im trying to figure out what everyone’s thinking. Manning won’t waste his last 2-3 seasons that he has left, going to a poor team like the Jags, Washington, etc. What’s more likely is Luck refusing to play for Indy. I just dont see Manning leaving unless its a very good contending team.

  113. truthserum4u says: Dec 7, 2011 4:32 AM

    I don’t think this is restricted to the Mannings. I’ve said all along Oliver Luck is not going to want his son sitting on the bench for years learning behind Peyton.

    Andrew was considered more ready to start than any of last years drafted QBs and several of them seem to be doing quite fine already. So why would Oliver want his son to sit while less ready QBs gather experience, notoriety, fame, endorsements, etc?

    I think Archie’s comment about speaking to Oliver is his way of letting the Colts know they are both on the same page and are in all likelihood standing unitied on this front.

    The leverage they hold over the Colts (if Peyton & Andrew both feel the same way) is there’s no way the Colts can afford to have their two faces of the organization both angry & upset at the same time. It would surely cause serious damage and poison the entire organization.

    Besides, the Colts have quite a few holes to fill and having potentialy two top-tier QBs (with one on the bench) doesn’t solve those problems. Compounding the difficulties of the situation is Barkley & Griffen III, in scouting circles, have closed the gap with Luck considerably. Teams may decide to shoot for them instead; give up less to get them, thus keeping more of their picks to help continue to build their teams.

    The Colts may not end up in such an enviable position after all.

  114. golonger says: Dec 9, 2011 12:43 AM

    “Compounding the difficulties of the situation is Barkley & Griffen III, in scouting circles, have closed the gap with Luck considerably. ”

    RIDICULOUS…..and TOTAL HOGWASH!!!!

  115. swanksjm says: Dec 10, 2011 8:45 AM

    Wow. As a Colts I’ve got say this comes off very SELFISH…. PEYTON MANNING is the Indianapolis Colts!!!!! Can’t imagine him not wanting to groom his succesor. Manning his that city’s heartbeat (charitable work, childrens hospitals, hosting highschool football games at Lucas Oil.) He has made a new rich contract going into a season I think he and the Colts knew he wouldn’t play in! But now Archie (his spokesperson) says that he talked to Oliver Luck and everybody is in agreement that Andrew is ready to play now. Peyton this will probably never make it to you but, wow for all you’ve done and as one who lived 45 min away from Colts games on Sunday this is sad!!!!!!!

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