Granted, he did make a couple of good passes, but he really hasn’t done any better than Orton. If you give Orton full credit for the first San Diego loss (they both played) the teams he played against are now 37-22. The teams Tebow started against are 36-47. Big difference.

Also I seem to recall that in one of the games Orton started the receiving corps was so depleted they had to put Tebow in as a wide-out.

Let’s just say I think he hasn’t quite lived up to the hype yet.

Players may not be rocket scientists but they would most assuredly pick up on any effort to “fix” games so as to lose on purpose. Elway has said that Tebow made great strides in the Viking game. If they wanted to bag the season they could have left Orton in for the remainder of the year. At the very least they needed to see what Tebow could do for more than a 3 game stretch at the end of a lost season. Each week he looks better and in the Viking game he played in the conventional offense.

If they were to get rid of Tebow you would see a fan revolt in Denver like never before. Bowlen knows better than anyone that the Broncos season ticket waiting list has shrunk by quite a bit. This year was the first year since I have been following the team that I heard and saw ads by the Broncos selling game tickets. Bowlen likes to win and make money. As much as he loves Elway, I could see him parting ways if Elway screws this team up by messing with the chemistry.

Tebow has not even started a full season worth of games. Let us see what he does in 2012 with a few more players to fill some holes on the team and then judge his and Elways job performance.

Funny that Tebow’s “rookie” stats are superior to Elway’s rookie year in TDs, less INTS, an WINS – they are about the same in pass completion %,
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There are some good pro-Tebow arguments out there…but this is absolutely one of the weakest because you’re comparing TOTALLY different eras. When Elway was starting out completing half your passes was pretty darn good but that’s just not the case in today’s game. Of the top 30 qbs in all-time in completion % the only two who retired prior to 2000 are Montana and Young and they played in the original West Coast offense that brought on the modern passing era. Elway was laser accurate with one of the tightest spirals ever seen, Tebow’s passes frequently wobble and wind up all over the place.

Funny thing is, Tebow is the first to acknowledge he needs to work on his accuracy. It’s only some of his fans who seem to believe he’s got everything down. Maybe if his fans actually listened to what Tebow was saying, they wouldn’t be so hostile towards every bit of constructive criticism that is sent his way.

The last 8 years of Superbowl winners:
2/1/2004 – Tom Brady
2/6/2005 – Tom Brady
2/5/2006 – Ben Roethlisberger
v2/4/2007 – Payton Manning
2/3/2008 – Eli Manning
2/1/2009 – Ben Roethlisberger
2/7/2010 – Drew Brees
2/6/2011 – Aaron Rogers

See anything similar? Especially this year! Whichever AFC team that ends up playing the Packers in the Super Bowl this year will need to be able to put up at least 40 points to outscore Aaron Rogers. I’m not saying it can’t happen, but again, I direct you to the list above. Even the losing QB’s (Warner, Manning, Mcnabb, Roethlisberger, Gannon, Bulger all go whom every one of you would take over Tebow).

They will probably get a guy that can throw the ball pretty, but won’t win games.

Tebow had a very nice game against the Vikings, but keep it in perspective.

The Vikes secondary is terrible to begin with. Now consider they were missing their two best CBs, starting FS and nickleback. Replacing them with a CB coming off ACL tears to each knee over the last two years, a CB they just pulled off the street and a 6th rnd rookie seeing his first action.

Four of his passes accounted for 71% of his yardage. All four were to wide open receivers (on 3 busted coverages & a broken play). He still had to hit them though, but he’s not going to see that against the teams making the playoffs.

Tebow, as currently constructed, cannot sustain his success longterm. He is still too inaccurate, lacks anticipation and touch consistency, and struggles reading defenses and going thru his progressions. You can’t go far beyond the regular season with these deficiencies. Can he improve? Sure, he has already. But he still has such a long way to go to become a quality passer that it will eventually catch up to him and hinder his ability to play QB.

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He already has lost a game this season!

elway is just keeping it real. he knows that if the team relied on tebow as a conventional qb, they wouldn’t have a chance.

i like tim tebow and i love his character but he’s a full back playing the qb position and eventually the reality will set it.

He must know that his statements and lack of support for Tebow don’t help the team during their playoff run.

Maybe Elway isn’t ready to be a VP of Football Operations? Maybe Pat Bowlen should be asked that question and respond in an Elway like manner saying something like … “I don’t know” or “I’m in the process of making that determination”.

I think Elway should look in the mirror and improve his VP “game”. Tebow is 6-1 and just winning baby, just winning.

1999 – John Elway appeared in 5 Superbowls, MVP of one, and was one of the greatest QBs that ever played the game.

2011 – Tim Tebow is strong, erratic, inaccurate, runs when he should throw, a leader, … “may not be the future of the Denver Broncos.”

2017 – ???

John understands that the most important statistic is the win/loss record and you don’t mess with what works. Media can make as much out of this as they like but the bottom line is the Denver media said Elway was awful but the fans loved to watch him play.

Is this how far down the insanity goes?

As for the Tebow haters, it really doesn’t matter what they say now to me. There will always be something. If Tebow wins the Super Bowl, they’ll say “big deal, so did Trent Dilfer. Call me when he wins two.”

This team is 25th in scoring defense and allowed the Vikings to gain 489 yards of offense without Adrian Peterson.

They were averaging under 100 yards rushing per game before Tebow became the starter. Now, they’re a notch below 200.

This is the exact same team that started 1-4 against easier competition. Tebow was the only variable.

When you start making football decisions based on what the fans want the sooner you’re sitting with them.

This is basically football from the 60′s, 70′s and early 80′s – good defense, good running game, throw the ball on 3rd down if you have to and don’t turn it over. It’s not revoloutionary.