using the pack fans’ logic on here, they should sell like hotcakes….

When you think about it as stepping up and taking responsibility for the financial future of the franchise rather than a “what can I get out of this?” attitude, I would say that every Packers fan who put up $250 in this stock issue has more “ownership” of the Packers than Zygi Wilf has of the Vikings.

Can’t beleive it’s you! Fairly nice post actually.

One thing seems to be incorrect though.

“Should the stockholders want a new President, GM, or Head Coach, they will let the board know. It IS an ownership voice in team affairs. ”

I heard Murphy on a radio interview specifically state the opposite. He didn’t mention President, but definately said stockholders have no voice in GM or Head Coach or team affairs. Just an FYI.

The Packers are at an economic disadvantage compared to the rest of owners. Packers fans know that this stock sale will help the team be competitive with the rest of the league in revenues. Lambeau Field will now become an 80,000 capacity stadium in a city of 105,000.

The team will never move, and never have a Snyder or Glazer run the team into the ground. Nor does any Packers fan have to be a yes man to a franchise king like Al Davis who never opened the books. The books are open for the public to see where the dollars go.

The Packers owners vote for representatives on the board of directors to represent their wishes in how the team conducts business. Should the stockholders want a new President, GM, or Head Coach, they will let the board know. It IS an ownership voice in team affairs.

That ownership voice in team affairs will be passed on to my descendants forever as stock can be inherited. 150 years from now a blood relative of mine will be voting on the direction of the Packers. $250 for an eternal voice in Packers affairs is a bargain.

Find it interesting that so many here complain about how Packer fans spend their money when they have a closet full of jerseys with some player’s name on the back.

Jets Favre, MN Moss, KC Montana, San Diego LT etc. – all pretty much useless due to the nature of the game.

Hmm – I can spend 250 on a stock which allows me to vote for the guys running the show (board of directors – I do have friends on the board BTW) and I get to feel part of the team. Team expands etc or I can drop more money than that on some stupid jersey for a player that will more than likely leave the team due to FA.

Call Packer stock holders idiots if you want but they voted in the Board of Directors who set the tone for the team. We’re winning and for the most part – people agree set up to continue to win the right way. Via the draft not FA (see the Eagles – no stock, owner blowing millions for that hot garbage)

Thumbs down if you are jealous.

Packer fans REALLY support their team.

So it would be a ripoff even if it was real stock! LOL!

Sure you would. Are you too dense to understand that Packer fans purchasing this stock know exactly what they are getting? It’s a voluntary tax to help the team, and enables the owner (of the stock) to prove it. Not a single other franchise could do this…for two reasons; 1) they are the only publicly owned franchise, and 2) they have the most supportive fanbase in the league.

The stock sold back in 1996 was selling for two and three times the face-value amongst collectors. This new issue will diminish that value, but so what? Wait another ten years for the next generation of fans and the value will be there again….not in a conventional stock manner-of-speaking, but an increased value just the same.

This is Marketing Genius 101 my friend….nobody is getting the wool pulled over their eyes. And nobody cares what you think either, I might add.

USE YOUR BRAIN BEFORE YOU SPEAK

People go to an art store and pay hundreds if not thousands, NOT FOR original art but for PRINTS of something that is basically worthless.

Value is in the eye of the beholder.
You get to … for free.. watch the Packers on sundays.
Doesnt cost you a dime.

People also buy $250 jerseys for players that get traded.

Its about supporting the team you LOVE!

Except its yours. Look around you. Value is in the eye of the beholder.

Dont hate just because you cant afford to buy one
Im not even from the area, and if i had $275 to spend i would because football doesnt cost me a dime and gives me a lot more than that and Packers are probably the most respectable franchise ever.

However, there is a sub-set of Packer fans who are incredibly obnoxious and out of touch with reality. It is to these undereducated and constantly intoxicated fools that I direct the following:

1) The last stock sale was for the the 2003 renovation, and yielded little more than $20 million of the $295 million project. (note: at $200/share, 1,475,000 shares would have needed to be sold to cover all costs. Apparently there weren’t 1,475,000 fans willing to give their money to the team…) The majority of the financing came through a Brown county sales tax.

2) The current stock sale is for a few extra seats. NFL owners regularly pay out of their own pocket for minor upgrades, especially ones that, if we assume that each seat is worth $100 per game, the proceeds will exceed the cost within 5 years.

3) Given the facts, stating that all franchises should operate in this manner and not ask for public money to build new stadiums is completely asinine. And ignorant of history, as well, since Lambeau Field was originally built because the NFL threatened to move the team to Milwaukee unless stadium conditions improved….

4) There are conditions in the team charter that allow the team to be sold and moved. Just saying….

Did I miss something? Or are you just claiming that those 6,000+ seats will be ready for next season?

Another reason to hate this awful franchise and abysmal “city”.

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LOL, right. Packers 21, Bears 14- hope you enjoyed that one. Paclers 31, Steelers 25. Let us know when your uh, “big city” Chicago goes from your 9 world titles, to the uh, “little city’s” 13 world titles. Good luck with that! Go grow a mustache and put your moldy Ditka 1985 sweater vest on, loser.

give us $250, and we’ll let you shovel the stadium! score! you have no say in any other part of the franchise whatsoever, but oh gosh, it’s worth the “investment.”

how CUTE!

I’d rather have an 0-16 team that doesn’t take me for a fool than a 16-0 team that practically calls you a fool when they dangle out monopoly money to you and you go after it with a vengence.

I’ve been on the Packers season ticket waiting list for 27 years. I’m number 3,191 as of my last statement (yes, that is correct, almost 30 years to finally get my hands on the greatest NFL asset you could own, Packer season tickets).

For $250, I can now assist in moving my name up the season ticket Holy Grail.

Once the sale is complete, enough dedicated Packer Fans will have contributed their share to renovate Lambeau and add an additional 6,700 seats to the stadium.

While some of you think it’s for the piece of paper, or the “ownership term” all good reasons, open your eyes! Lambeau is adding more seats baby!

This sale just scored me season tickets next year, and for $250 I’m laughing all the way to the bank.

I was in NYC for the Packer game over the weekend. My ticket, Face Value, cost $284!!! If the Giants can charge $284 for a ticket on the 10 yard line, then the Packers can sure as hell raise come capital for renovations. Give me a break, $250 is pennies in NFL terms.

Damn it feels good to be a Packer Fan today.

Go Pack,

Go ahead sheep, buy your “stock”. LOL.

Your statement of “The shareholders vote in the president who oversees everything Packers” is both true and false.

They might “oversee” a lot of things but they have no power over Ted Thomson when it comes to football decisions. Therefore, you’re vote has no bearing on the product put out onto the field.

With that said, I am still tempted to purchase a share. If it weren’t quite so expensive, I would. Why? Because I will never have the billions to actually buy a team, and the Pack are the only team that sells shares.

Why can’t the NFL get smart and allow all teams to do this. If they Vikings were selling shares, I would buy one. So would many others, and they would have enough money to fund their own stadium.

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Who?

yes indeed, and I have spent 10x that amount already on poverty stricken kids in Africa since you’re asking. No I absolutely refuse to pay PSL for Jets seats for SAME REASON, why in the name of everything sacred would I or anyone else pay gazillionaire owners to build a stadium. PSL is greatest sports ripoff in history so I gave up my tickets after 22 years.

wake up and use your hard earned money for something useful this Christmas.

I have seen partial responses to my post but as of yet not one person has attempted to answer the main question…..”Why aren’t the other 31 NFL teams allowed to do the same?”

Because all the other teams are privately owned. i.e. Jerry Jones owns the Dallas Cowboys. The shareholders vote in the president (forgot the official title) who oversees everything Packers.