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Alex Smith figures to get nice raise from 49ers

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Alex Smith re-signed in San Francisco this year for $4 million on a one-year contract. It’s safe to say he’ll earn more next year.

Smith is a free agent, but he clearly has more value to the 49ers than any other team. He could get offers elsewhere, but we suspect the 49ers won’t let it get that far.

Matt Maiocco of CSNBayArea.com writes that the 49ers could re-sign Smith to a two or three-year contract worth $8-11 million. It’s early in the process, but that’s a lot for a quarterback leading the 29th-ranked passing attack.  Then again, the 49ers are 10-2 and Smith is only 27 years old.

With Colin Kaepernick in town, the 49ers have a young quarterback to groom. We also wouldn’t be shocked if they added other option, perhaps Jim Harbaugh’s old player Josh Johnson.

Smith has been very good this year, but it’s worth wondering how good the 49ers could be with an explosive passing game.

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  1. playinpossum says: Dec 8, 2011 11:42 AM

    Good for Alex.

  2. mondzy805 says: Dec 8, 2011 11:47 AM

    2 year deal, sounds about right. 2 for 16 million, with the possibility of another 4 million. Colin get to learn the right way. Don’t mind adding Josh either. Things are looking a lot better for our 49ers. Faithful, stand up.

  3. dohpey28 says: Dec 8, 2011 11:49 AM

    Peyton Manning is their QB next year.

  4. wollam11 says: Dec 8, 2011 11:51 AM

    You have to have WRs to have an explosive passing game.

  5. explosionsauce says: Dec 8, 2011 11:52 AM

    Smith’s passing game has improved, his receivers don’t do him many favors.

  6. tennis22drew says: Dec 8, 2011 11:52 AM

    I’m definitely a homer, but I still think an explosive passing attack is still possible with A. Smith. Lets get him a 2nd year in an offense where everybody involved is back and on the same page, and hopefully see things blossom.

  7. wegonnadoitbaby says: Dec 8, 2011 11:52 AM

    Caveat emptor.

  8. radrntn says: Dec 8, 2011 11:58 AM

    Keep dreaming Matt……Smith will want a 6 year deal with a huge signing bonus for total deal around 80 million with at least 40 of it guaranteed.

  9. danospleasanton says: Dec 8, 2011 12:01 PM

    This is a wise move, 2-3 years max with 7-9 million guaranteed. If Alex gets better after being in the same system for a couple years he should be rewarded accordingly. This is no time to pull a Bills move and look like idiots!

  10. bringbacktheflex says: Dec 8, 2011 12:01 PM

    Another problem with the media. The 9ers don’t need “an explosive passing game”. To win in this league you need a tough consistent defense and a mistake free offense.

    The only reason you *need* an explosive passing game is if you have a seive for a defense like GB does. Or you want to impress the media who LOVE to fawn over big passing numbers.

  11. Stiller43 says: Dec 8, 2011 12:02 PM

    Is it just me, or does 11 mil over 3 years NOT average out to more than 4 mil for one year…not sure how thats a raise…

  12. travisblink619 says: Dec 8, 2011 12:08 PM

    I think it’d be wise to get Alex locked up for couple more years. I think with the test of this season and a full offseason for this team to fully jell, I think Alex has some serious potential to lead an explosive offense. On another note, it’d be nice if they give Braylon another shot, but only if it is on the cheap. Kyle Williams is beginning to show his ability, so Braylon would really need to step it up next year. This is a team who is going to be great for awhile now.

  13. Nevis says: Dec 8, 2011 12:09 PM

    Whoa whoa whoa…

    First off, even Alex Smith has said “no contract talk until the end of the year.”

    If I am the 49ers, I need the entirety of the postseason to make this decision, I really do. We need to learn from one-year wonders like Derek Anderson, etc.

    How far Smith takes them into the postseason should dictate this, not one second sooner.

  14. mrplow3 says: Dec 8, 2011 12:10 PM

    “Smith has been very good this year, but it’s worth wondering how good the 49ers could be with an explosive passing game.”

    The passing game seems pretty explosive to me. Smith has hit huge passes with the game on the line multiple times this year. What more could you ask for?

    The rest is just Madden video game fluff.

  15. godofwine330 says: Dec 8, 2011 12:11 PM

    I am not against this. A 2-3 year deal doesn’t strap the organization if he turns out to be Derek Anderson…or the old Alex Smith. It is a better value “prove it” deal than he is currently getting. I’d figure the guarantee value is low to fit the club, and if Smith was smart he’d jump on it. I have always wanted to see what Josh Johnson could do as an NFL QB if given the chance, though. I believe he is a free agent after this year.

  16. norcalmafia says: Dec 8, 2011 12:12 PM

    Alex deserves it..all the ns hes been through hes 10-2a and gets better every week…Just imagine if he can come back to the same offense next season for once he could be a pretty good qb….I give him alot of credit hes been drug through the mud and didnt quit..

  17. anhdazman says: Dec 8, 2011 12:14 PM

    Lets see how far SF goes this year, but if Peyton Manning is available and if he could give SF two more solid years with this team, why not get him? The possible only question mark on this team at QB could get an upgrade from Alex Smith to Peyton Manning, why not?!

  18. anhdazman says: Dec 8, 2011 12:15 PM

    Keep in mind, your young QB, Colin Kaepernick could also be learning from one of the greatest of all time if this scenario works out.

  19. joetoronto says: Dec 8, 2011 12:15 PM

    I wouldn’t commit to a multi year deal with him, no way.

    Even Jason Campbell is better.

  20. nyyankeedave says: Dec 8, 2011 12:24 PM

    Nice to see Smith bouncing back this season, especially after being relentlessly kicked in the teeth the past 6 seasons by various coaches, analysts, fans, idiots, etc.-but that said, and I’m just saying-what if Peyton and the Colts parted ways and #18 was availible? Of course I don’t know what happens in playoffs with SF – but Peyton Manning on SF with there run game and defense-but then again, who the hell knows!

  21. travisblink619 says: Dec 8, 2011 12:25 PM

    @Stiller43

    Right… $11mil over 3 years is $3.6mil/year. This brings up another question. Why are players always upset over getting the franchise tag? In the case of Julius Peppers, he made like $17mil for one season with the Panthers under the franchise tag. He hasn’t made close to that since, for one season.

  22. fittytuckin says: Dec 8, 2011 12:27 PM

    Franchise tag would be wiser

  23. jimmymcnultysbottleofjameson says: Dec 8, 2011 12:27 PM

    Oh yeah Alex, congrats on finally doing your job and earning your over-the-top unjustified and just flat out ridiculous rookie contract.. yea why shouldn’t you get a raise? Laughable.

  24. danospleasanton says: Dec 8, 2011 12:33 PM

    joetoronto says:Dec 8, 2011 12:15 PM

    I wouldn’t commit to a multi year deal with him, no way.

    Even Jason Campbell is better.
    _________________________________

    Why is Jason Campbell better? Because you say? Are you a scout? Have you every played in college or the NFL?

    I see you on here bashing the 9ers all the time.-must be a wonderful bliss, hatin with no clue

  25. dstep24 says: Dec 8, 2011 12:34 PM

    The only improvement surrounding Alex Smith this year has been the in the teams ability to mask how terrible he is at playing QB.

    The Bowmans, Smiths (Justin), Willis and Rodgers of the world should be getting the raise. I’d say Frank Gore too but the guy is made of glass.

  26. tonyt33 says: Dec 8, 2011 12:35 PM

    The ideal move would be to sign Peyton Manning this off season and try to get Alex Smith to agree to a 4 or 5 year deal that pays him a reasonable salary in the first few years and then considerably more in years 4 and 5 (when Manning may not be playing any longer). Perhaps a healthy signing bonus and the possibility of learning from one of the best QBs and maybe even getting a superbowl ring while he moves to the back-up role for a few years might get Smith to consider something like this. I am not a 49ers fan, but if I was, that is what i would be hoping for.

  27. dstep24 says: Dec 8, 2011 12:35 PM

    Alex deserves it..all the ns hes been through hes 10-2a and gets better every week…

    ____________

    HE’s not 10-2. The defense and Frank Gore are 10-2, and the schedule hasn’t hurt.

    Credit where credit is due. And absolutely none where none is due…

    Cheers

  28. jonhall1980 says: Dec 8, 2011 12:50 PM

    We as Niner fans have seen this many times before with Alex Smith. His value has never and will never be higher. If they want to keep him around for another year to help Colin learn the game at the NFL level then fine. Any long term contract awarded to him would be a wast of money. Let him go so we can finally get past this first overall pick draft bust.

  29. jonhall1980 says: Dec 8, 2011 12:50 PM

    We as Niner fans have seen this many times before with Alex Smith. His value has never and will never be higher. If they want to keep him around for another year to help Colin learn the game at the NFL level then fine. Any long term contract awarded to him would be a wast of money. Let him go so we can finally get past this first overall pick draft bust.

  30. ahostiletakeover says: Dec 8, 2011 12:51 PM

    Not a Niners fan, but they would be absolutely foolish to go out and try to get Peyton after this season, which is why you won’t see them doing so. Give Smith a new 2 year deal and see where he can take that offense when he’s actually had the same offensive system in place for more than a season. Kaepernick was a 2nd rd pick for a reason so by the time Smith is a free agent they have a better sense of where they are with their QB situation: Alex as the long term, Colin as the long term, or another player entirely. All that said, glad to see the Niners having some success, I think the sky is the limit for this team once the new staff and the team have had more than a truncated offseason to get ready.

  31. sfwillis52 says: Dec 8, 2011 12:54 PM

    Everyone talking about Peyton Manning needs to stop. We don’t want him, and we don’t need him unless he wants to come coach. The guys career may be over. He is nothing but a medical risk. Whoever told him to get that surgery is a terrible doctor. It took him 6 opinions before he finally got someone to give him the surgery. He tried to take the fast route to recovery, and there is very little chance it pays off. I am not bashing anything about how he is as a QB, but there is no way it is worth any team to bring him in on the salary he is going to get. It’s ashame his career may be over, but in the end, it’s his own fault for not listening to the first 5 doctors.

  32. mhalt99 says: Dec 8, 2011 12:54 PM

    but it’s worth wondering how good the 49ers could be with an explosive passing game

    The Ravens tried that after winning the Super Bowl with Dilfer. QB’s aren’t really plug and play.

  33. nyyankeedave says: Dec 8, 2011 1:03 PM

    dstep24 says:
    The only improvement surrounding Alex Smith this year has been the in the teams ability to mask how terrible he is at playing QB.
    &
    HE’s not 10-2. The defense and Frank Gore are 10-2, and the schedule hasn’t hurt.
    Credit where credit is due. And absolutely none where none is due
    ============================

    And this, children, is you brain on drugs.

  34. vanmorrissey says: Dec 8, 2011 1:07 PM

    As you pointed out Gregg, Josh Johnson goes back a ways with JH, would not be surprised he ends up on the team some day.

  35. brotzelj says: Dec 8, 2011 1:09 PM

    This is the year Alex needed to fail so the 49ers could have drafted Luck. 29th ranked passing attack won’t get you to 10-2 again.

  36. newtons2ndlaw says: Dec 8, 2011 1:11 PM

    Hilarious, only the defunct city of SF can have a QB on their team for 8-10 years who has only thrown for 300 yards 3 TIMES!!! And homers actually believe he’s ELITE?!? SF has to have some of the not so football bright fans I’ve ever heard of. How does a mediocre QB who has never won a single thing of importance still get the starting position on one of the most cherished franchises?

    Almost every kid was was a 49er fan, where I’m from and now it is a sad sick joke. This 10-2 record is the biggest facade ever. Just like past teams last year and before that, cough atlanta cough Tampa Bay cough, this team will fall back to earth next year. No way you can have a solid foundation, when ur QB throws dinks and dunks to improve his passing rating. Enjoy ur One and out in the playoffs, SF, you deserve it!

  37. goldrush36 says: Dec 8, 2011 1:14 PM

    People the deal isn’t 11 million over 3 years. It’s a speculation that it will be a 2-3 year deal between $8-$11 million per year! The article was just very slightly misquoted. He has done great but 8 should be the max, not the starting point.

  38. travisblink619 says: Dec 8, 2011 1:18 PM

    More Alex Smith haters out and about. Apparently, some people only happy when they’re miserable or making others miserable. Alex is playing better than two thirds of the QBs this year. And that’s with an offense that has been put in place on the fly. Next year, I’d be willing to drop a c-note that Alex throws 3800+ yds/25+ TDs, and less than 10 ints. Oh yeah, and a Pro Bowl berth.

    PS Alex has had the game on his shoulders at least six times this year.

  39. macklinr61 says: Dec 8, 2011 1:25 PM

    Give Alex another two years and let this OL gel some more. No need to waste draft picks and salary cap on Peyton.

  40. rabidbillsfan says: Dec 8, 2011 1:26 PM

    I actually like Alex Smith. For those of you who think Peyton Manning will be any teams savior, think again. First, the Colts will most definetly have to let him walk, or trade him, which isn’t clear right now. Second, he needs to find a team that wants him, or the Colts need to find a team that will take him. Third, the Salary aspect will need to be figured out. The biggest issue I see is a team wanting to take him. Sure, he is arguably in the top-5 of all-time, but he is also a player coach. Do you really think he would come in and let some coach critique his game? I don’t. It would be Mannings offense, not, for example, Mike Martz’s or Jim Harbaughs or Chan Gaileys. Manning would demand total control of playcalling and Audiables. Sure, maybe he will go to a defensive-minded coaches team and it could work. He would be ” Coach Killer #1″, ecspecially if he goes to a team with a realtively young or new coach. Caldwell is a walking stiff, Peyton would need the exact same thing from his next coach for them to Co-Exist.

  41. 4evrnyt says: Dec 8, 2011 1:27 PM

    Unless we have plans on trading up for the #1 pick I dont see what choice we have. Given the options out there we are better with Alex then without him. Sign him for two years with an easy out option for the second year just in case someone does come along.

  42. thehighhat says: Dec 8, 2011 1:41 PM

    I knew they should have gotten Kevin Kolb… oh wait…

  43. go9ers says: Dec 8, 2011 1:44 PM

    This year, Alex has been given a chance to prove how good he is. And the answer is average at best. He does well at not turning the ball over, but otherwise is mediocre by most measures. It is time for the team to move on. At most, he should stay one more year to give Kaepernick time to progress before he takes over.

    Manning isn’t a good option for the Niners — the O line isn’t good enough to protect an immobile QB.

  44. fatdaddy73 says: Dec 8, 2011 1:44 PM

    I think there are 25-30 QBs in the NFL that could manage the game at LEAST as well as Smith has/does in that system.

  45. sterilizecromartie says: Dec 8, 2011 1:45 PM

    danospleasanton says:
    Dec 8, 2011 12:33 PM

    Why is Jason Campbell better? Because you say? Are you a scout? Have you every played in college or the NFL?
    ——-
    Dude, chill. It’s called “having your own opinion” and, believe it or not, it is allowed in this nation.

  46. jessethegreat says: Dec 8, 2011 1:46 PM

    I truly hope Alex Smith doesn’t get a deal that pays him 8 to 10 million a year. If that is the case, teams like the Packers, Saints, Patriots, Chargers, Steelers and Giants are in serious trouble.

    They are going to have to fork over some major cash to their quarterbacks. 8 million a year for Alex Smith = about 80 million a year each for Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Rivers, Ben, and Eli because they are all 10x the quarterback Smith ever will be.

  47. travisblink619 says: Dec 8, 2011 1:46 PM

    Btw, did you haters ever think that, the lack of passing attack has to do with other facets of the game? I mean, Dennis Erickson, Mike Nolan, and Mike Singletary all tried to put in place a power run game and strong D. Did you ever think that the new coach wants everything in place, before setting Smith up for failure, yet again? O-line is falling into place, receiving corps (Michael Crabtree) is looking good, and for once, the coaching is competent on BOTH sides of the ball. So, with a shortened offseason, a complex offense being put in place, and the same offensive players as last year in place, I think Smith is doing great…he’s doing exactly what the coaches have asked. One more thing, say what you will about his past six seasons, but one thing Alex has never lacked is passion, effort, and flexibility. He honestly does work his tail off all year around.

  48. flapjackdaddy says: Dec 8, 2011 1:47 PM

    For what?

  49. rabidbillsfan says: Dec 8, 2011 1:55 PM

    @travisblink

    If Smith has to do that, then the ‘9ers will fail. First, this team isn’t designed to win shootouts, they are desgined to keep the score low where the defense dictates the pace. Second, doing that would essentially neutralize your biggest threat, the running game and run blocking ,and exploit your biggest weakness, Pass-Pro. Not every team needs a QB to put up monster numbers, but because of fantasy football, madden, and the current run of spread offenses, everybody thinks you do. The ‘9ers are really ahead of the curve. Teams are drafting Smaller, faster guys to help combat the spread and reach the QB. Soon you will start to see teams revert back to a true “pro-Style” offense and have success, and thats because of the current trend of the Spread.

  50. illinininer says: Dec 8, 2011 1:59 PM

    When it became apparent that the Colts were going to get the No. 1 overall pick and draft Luck, I thought about the possibility of the 49ers signing Peyton Manning. Since then, I have realized that it would not be a very smart move and would be completely out of character for the 49ers organization. It would create a Super-Bowl-or-bust mentality around the team and could easily turn into an Eagles-type mess. Alex Smith is the 49ers QB for 2012. He has done everything that has been asked of him and played well this season. The 49ers offense is more complex than most know, and you can see how much it has evolved from the first few games of the season. The coaches and players all believe in Smith, and as a fan I do as well. Say what you will, but there’s no one else I would rather have to lead this 49ers team.

  51. lucascampbell says: Dec 8, 2011 2:00 PM

    I’m not a mathematician but if Alex is making 4 million this year and figures to get a 2-3 year deal for 8-11 it sounds like he will make the same or less then this year…

    Maybe the title for the is article should be:

    Alex Smith figures to get paid the same or take a pay cut from 49ers…

  52. themackstrong says: Dec 8, 2011 2:02 PM

    I’m not going to sit here and knock Alex Smith because his year is going alright and he deserves praise after so many terrible years. But his season isn’t even as good as Rex Grossman’s when Bears D took them to the Superbowl and look how he turned out.

    If they lock him up long term I won’t be scared they have the division on lockdown the next 10 years that’s for sure.

  53. saintsfan1111 says: Dec 8, 2011 2:03 PM

    The niners will fold like a cheap suit when the play green bay or the saints.

  54. ike1973 says: Dec 8, 2011 2:17 PM

    I would wait until the 49’ers are one and done in the playoffs before talking new contract with Smith. Apparently he wants to wait until then too.

  55. travisblink619 says: Dec 8, 2011 2:45 PM

    @rabidbillsfan

    I’m not saying that Alex HAS to do all of that next year. I’m only mentioning that, because I think next year, the Niners will have a balanced attack. The run will set up the pass and vice versa. Teams wont be going into games with Niners thinking all they have to do is plug the box and stuff the run. They will have to respect the pass and play action etc. One way or another, the 49ers are in excellent shape. Top 1 in turnover ratio, scoring D. Top 10 Special Teams play. Top 10 scoring offense. And the passing offense is improving. They WILL have the division on lockdown for most of the next decade.

  56. kghannigan says: Dec 8, 2011 2:46 PM

    Alex Smith IS NOT that much improved. He still plays like a rookie in games like last week. The score against the Rams should’ve been more like 42-0 or more instead of 26-0. I’m sick of getting to the red-zone constantly and having to settle for field goals. Yes, our TEs and WRs aren’t the best ever, but still, Smith still throws plenty of passes behind his receivers. That’s on no one but him.

    That being said, I don’t mind him being kept around for a couple more years. But if he’s going to be contracted for multiple years a sizable portion of it should be incentive based. I just hope that Andrew Luck decides to make a power-play when it comes time for the Draft and decides he wants to play for his old coach.

  57. tombrookshire says: Dec 8, 2011 2:47 PM

    Lets not get carried away shall we? One decent season out of how many? Occassionally you’ll find a lightly used eclair in a trash can, but that’s not the place to look.

  58. dishepo says: Dec 8, 2011 2:55 PM

    Smith puts up numbers when the need him to. Didn’t he have like 270 and 2/0 with some deep balls last game? Didn’t they win with Gore out?

    I’m not sure he has any glaring holes in his game and seems to be really accurate downfield.

  59. illinininer says: Dec 8, 2011 3:03 PM

    The 49ers played good games against the Packers and Saints with Mike Singletary as coach. The 49ers have the ability to beat both teams and they will get their opportunity.

  60. nyyankeedave says: Dec 8, 2011 3:12 PM

    saintsfan1111 says:

    The niners will fold like a cheap suit when the play green bay or the saints
    =====================
    @saintsfan1111

    You mean like your Saints did last season against the 7-9 Seahawks? Brilliant shot, dude.

  61. rabidbillsfan says: Dec 8, 2011 3:13 PM

    @themackstrong

    Your right, he’s not, but he is more consistent than “Roller Coaster Rex” ever was, and that is valued more than numbers any day.

  62. klunge says: Dec 8, 2011 3:14 PM

    He’s working well in the system, doing what is asked of him. Can’t fault him for that and can’t blame him if someone for accepting huge money if someone throws it at him. But whoever offers it to him should be subject to blame & criticism.

    199yds/1.2TD per game, takes lots of sacks. Sort of the NFC’s Matt Cassel, whose contract is in the $10M/yr range and everybody agrees is grossly overpaid.

    Even if you’re of the opinion he deserves to get paid for his current play, perhaps consider he already got paid for it in advance and is just now earning what he was given in the past.

  63. jessethegreat says: Dec 8, 2011 3:20 PM

    illinininer says:
    Dec 8, 2011 3:03 PM
    The 49ers played good games against the Packers and Saints with Mike Singletary as coach. The 49ers have the ability to beat both teams and they will get their opportunity.
    ———————————————————
    Revisit last years 49ers – Packers game. That game was Dingleberry’s last game as head coach. It got him fired.

  64. illinininer says: Dec 8, 2011 3:29 PM

    Who said Alex is going to ask to be paid $11m/yr.? He has been the ultimate team guy. He has signed two contracts that average $5m/yr. or less. I don’t expect him and his agent to ask for much for than $16m over two years. Maybe $24 over three years. That would be very very reasonable for both sides. Very cheap for a quarterback that can win in the NFL.

  65. macatawami says: Dec 8, 2011 3:33 PM

    @newtons2ndlaw

    “SF has to have some of the not so football bright fans I’ve ever heard of.”

    Um…

  66. fnslidevick says: Dec 8, 2011 3:40 PM

    Only desperate fans think Smith deserves an extension. When you are happy with your quarterback just because he doesnt make mistakes(27th in the league in passing), your desperate. I guess thats how it is when your team finally makes it to the playoffs for the first time since 2002. If you were smart, you would draft a quarterback this coming draft. Wait, never mind. Its gonna be nice seeing you lose for the next 10 yrs after your one and done in the playoffs this year.

  67. mmsierra says: Dec 8, 2011 3:48 PM

    Keeping Alex for 2 oar 3 more years is a good thing
    I think he deserves it
    I don’t want Manning
    He’s a medical risk and should retire
    Why risk your health for a game

    As for Keapernick, I hope he turns out….
    But, I remember the fans calmoring for Tim Rattay
    that didn’t go so well
    Let’s hope Kaepernick does much better

    Also, we’ll need another RG and a WR
    Is it the WR Braylon?
    We’ll se during the rest of the year

    But, Crabs, K Williams, Ginn, along with our TEs is a good start. We just need aspeedy WR (with good hands)

  68. otis52gsh says: Dec 8, 2011 3:53 PM

    If they didn’t play in the NFL’s worst division, they are .500 at best. Wait until next year when they have to play a better schedule. Alex will get money, but like the article says-29th passing O in the league is not much leverage for him. They are Tampa of last year.

  69. travisblink619 says: Dec 8, 2011 4:30 PM

    @otis52gsh

    Dude, you’re still rolling with the weak division argument? .500 at best? Hate to pull the rug out, but the Niners have that record against the NFC East and AFC North. They’ve played only three games in the division. Right now, they are 5-2 against those other two divisions and 7-2 against divisions that are not the NFC West. Find a new argument. Like, I can agree that they wouldn’t have clinched the division at this point in any other division.

  70. tdrundmc says: Dec 8, 2011 4:35 PM

    captain check down is a game manager

  71. pacificamjr says: Dec 8, 2011 4:39 PM

    Dude is a born leader

  72. fnslidevick says: Dec 8, 2011 4:55 PM

    Ya and the NFC East is a really tough division this year. And you beat the bengals and the browns in the AFC north. Got beat up by the Ravens and will get beat up again next week by the steelers

  73. bringbacktheflex says: Dec 8, 2011 4:59 PM

    All this talk of “game manager” versus “elite” QBs versus Tebow, etc..

    Reminds me of a story I read. In the Tokyo Olympics Bob Hayes flew by two Japanese coaches who were standing in the infield. Hayes 400 meter relay team set a record that day and Hayes was clocked in 8.6 second for the last 100 meters.

    The two coaches only comment was on Hayes poor form!!! He started 10 yards behind everyone on that last leg and finished 10 yards in front of everyone for the gold. But the only thing these two coaches could do was comment on his poor form.

    You guys need to take a closer look at the bottom line for these “game managers”.

  74. danospleasanton says: Dec 8, 2011 5:05 PM

    sterilizecromartie says:Dec 8, 2011 1:45 PM

    danospleasanton says:
    Dec 8, 2011 12:33 PM

    Why is Jason Campbell better? Because you say? Are you a scout? Have you every played in college or the NFL?
    ——-
    Dude, chill. It’s called “having your own opinion” and, believe it or not, it is allowed in this nation.

    Understood. However, when you form an opinion of any sort and it is derived from pure ignorance or blind hate in my OPINION it should be called out. Some people are so bitter or jealous that the only thoughts formed are ignorant ones. I can respect a point of view if not my own if articulated with thought or facts. Anyone can speak in absolutes as if first hand knowledge or fact…doesn’t make it true. Stating Jason Campbell is better than Alex Smith as if it were fact is foolish. When has Jason Campbell ever had ten wins in a NFL season?? ~See fact stated

  75. otis52gsh says: Dec 8, 2011 5:14 PM

    I will be proven right come playoff time and next year. Than we can talk about rugs. If my bears make the playoffs, they will end your season.

  76. franknunley57 says: Dec 8, 2011 5:53 PM

    I wouldn’t bet on Alex being back next year. I trust Coach Harbaugh will make the right decision on the 9ers QB for next year.

  77. travisblink619 says: Dec 8, 2011 5:55 PM

    Puh-lease…. IF the Bears make the playoffs, they’ll be rolled in the Wildcard game. A game I’m certain will be against the Saints. Also, a game that the Niners wont be involved in, because of a first round bye. And this all relies on a HUGE if. And honestly, I wish your team the best of luck. I seriously hope they can knock off the Packers, because I’m tired of Patriots 2.0 talk.

  78. franknunley57 says: Dec 8, 2011 6:09 PM

    Ive been predicting the Josh Johnson, Coach Harbuagh reunion all year. Josh has stated he wants to come & Harbaugh has been quoted to say Josh is the best athlete he’s ever coached!

  79. otis52gsh says: Dec 8, 2011 6:53 PM

    I agree, huge IF. But that why I said if. The Bears were rolling really before the injuries, and always play the packers tough. I really think they had the best chance to beat them in the playoffs. Lambeau is tough in January, especially for a run based team from the west coast. Totally different than what gore is used to. And Alex just don’t have what it takes to keep pace with them points wise. I know your D is rock solid, but the truth is you barely beat Detroit in ideal conditions. The packers owned them in their own house thanksgiving day. I really don’t think anybody can beat them period. You are not the only one tired of hearing about them, but man Aaron Rodgers is a stud. Give him to the bears we are solid for a long time, if they would pay him that is. Good luck niners.

  80. illinininer says: Dec 8, 2011 6:59 PM

    jessethegreat:

    Singletary got fired because he lost to the St. Louis Rams. If you want to make predictions and criticize my team, please educate yourself first. I don’t make over-the-top claims for/against other teams in the NFL because I don’t have knowledge of the day-to-day happenings with other teams. My point was that the 49ers were able to take those games to the 4th quarter and especially in the game against the Saints nearly won it. That was with a coaching philosophy that said “We’re going to impose our will and if at first you don’t succeed, try try again.” Harbaugh and his staff can gameplan with the best of them. The Saints are average outside of the Superdome and by the time we face the Packers we will have 17 games of tape and the weather on our side in Lambeau. I know very well that Rodgers could light us up because our defense can be thrown on when facing great QB play. But you have to acknowledge we’ve got a pretty good chance when the time comes. The more you completely dismiss a team, the more ignorant you make yourself out to be.

    As a football fan, I know anything can happen any week. That’s why it’s such a great sport. Just remember those when those surprise teams come out of nowhere and win the Super Bowl, that teams’ coaches, players, and fans are not surprised.

  81. nyyankeedave says: Dec 8, 2011 7:00 PM

    fnslidevick says:

    Its gonna be nice seeing you lose for the next 10 yrs after your one and done in the playoffs this year.
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    But it would be even nicer seeing Harbaugh & Co. give you and every other Niner hater the WORST 10 years of your life =)

  82. travisblink619 says: Dec 8, 2011 7:37 PM

    @otis52gsh

    I agree, Lambeau in January is one of the toughest venues in the history of the NFL. And yes, Aa-Rod is a stud. And I know Alex doesn’t put up electrifying numbers, but I think the Niners stand as good a chance as any team in the league to knock off the Packers. In no way will I say its going to be an easy task, but the Niners are better in every statistical category, except wins, and passing offense. And lets be realistic, aside from your Bears, what other Top 10 defense have the Packers faced.

  83. otis52gsh says: Dec 8, 2011 8:09 PM

    @travisblink

    Other than the niners, bears, and a select 1-2 more there are no good D’s right now. I think it’s lockout related, lots on IR etc.. I hope you are right, but I haven’t watched the niners much other than the lions game when the “handshake” happened. I guess I’m just not sold. I will watch them the last month here on the directv package, and I will see if I’m wrong about them.

  84. sixjak says: Dec 8, 2011 8:16 PM

    jimmymcnultysbottleofjameson says:
    Dec 8, 2011 12:27 PM
    Oh yeah Alex, congrats on finally doing your job and earning your over-the-top unjustified and just flat out ridiculous rookie contract.. yea why shouldn’t you get a raise? Laughable.

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    And what kind of contract should an overall #1 draft pick get? Spewing forth ignorance is laughable.

  85. franknunley57 says: Dec 8, 2011 8:18 PM

    Throwing accuracy can’t be taught. Alex misses too many receivers and that demoralizes the entire team. As far as a speedy wr, Desean Jackson is a FA & a California native. Guys mature & strong coaching helps. Harbaugh knows Jackson from playing against him when he was @ Cal. He would know if it’s worth taking a chance on him.

  86. franknunley57 says: Dec 8, 2011 8:25 PM

    Most people who down play the 9ers b/c they play in the NFC West haven’t seen this team play 1 game this year. It’s an easy tell.

  87. travisblink619 says: Dec 8, 2011 9:13 PM

    @Franknunley57

    Alex Smith has only 6 QBs ahead of him in completion percentage. At 63.2%, only Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Romo, Roethlisberger, and Fitzpatrick have better completion percentage. Passing accuracy is not not his issue. With the three previous coaching regimes building a run first offense, Harbaugh is coaching to the strength of the team he inherited. So, early on in the season, the Niners were run first. Gradually, they have introduced more facets of the offense, and as of yet, Smith hasn’t skipped a beat.

  88. franknunley57 says: Dec 8, 2011 9:48 PM

    @travisblink619:

    That’s b/c Harbaugh has Alex in bubble wrap. Everything is conservative. He knows Alex’s limitations. 27th in passing won’t do. Need more balance.

  89. funkylovemonkey says: Dec 8, 2011 9:55 PM

    kghannigan says:
    Dec 8, 2011 2:46 PM
    Alex Smith IS NOT that much improved. He still plays like a rookie in games like last week. The score against the Rams should’ve been more like 42-0 or more instead of 26-0. I’m sick of getting to the red-zone constantly and having to settle for field goals. Yes, our TEs and WRs aren’t the best ever, but still, Smith still throws plenty of passes behind his receivers. That’s on no one but him.

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    I don’t know what game you were watching, but the game I saw Smith’s receivers dropped some very catchable balls. This includes a pretty much perfect touchdown pass to a wide open Vernon Davis that he simply dropped. Smith is ranked seventh for accuracy… sure he isn’t Rodgers, but neither are most QBs… In fact there are 25 starting QBs who are statistically less accurate playing in the NFL right now.

    The 49ers have bigger issues right now then Alex Smith. They have an offensive line that is tied for giving up the most sacks in the NFL, they have been playing very poorly with Rachel in. Braylon Edwards has been a waste of a contract and nobody knows how Morgan will recover from his season ending injury. Looking forward to next season those are the issues that most need to be addressed, along with a fairly weak secondary that is bailed out by the fact that the run defense makes it difficult for teams to score on the 49ers.

  90. travisblink619 says: Dec 8, 2011 10:07 PM

    @franknunley57

    I agree 27th in passing isn’t enough. But, try comparing Smith’s first 6 weeks to the last 6 weeks and you will see big changes. 38 pass attempts against the Rams, 30 against the Giants, 32 against Detroit. Over the previous 5 weeks, excluding the Baltimore game, he’s averaged nearly 250 yards/game. And all this while the offense is continually being put in place on the fly. So, while I respect, the common opinion that Smith is merely a game manager I urge you to take into realization, that the game has been placed on Smiths shoulders at least half of the season. Remember, by week 4, Gore had mustered less than 150 yards. And against the Giants, he had 0 yards, 73 last week against the Rams. Anyway, I’m rambling…

  91. franknunley57 says: Dec 8, 2011 10:31 PM

    @travisblink619:

    You make a strong case. As a 9er Faithful, I hope you’re right. I applaud your well thought out exchange of ideas. We have at least 1 thing in common….success for the 9ers. Great exchange my friend! (Big Ben left the game tonite with an injury,although i never root for an opponents injury). you’re the Man travis!

  92. travisblink619 says: Dec 8, 2011 10:46 PM

    I have been a Smith fan from day 1, and I just don’t want to be wrong. I think the current coaching regime deserves some credit, too. Fort staff, that is not setting Smith up for failure. They realize he has skills and are coaching to his strengths. Prior to this year, he has never had conditions favorable for any QB to succeed.

  93. travisblink619 says: Dec 8, 2011 10:51 PM

    And Frank, one more thing, I’d love to see D-Jax in Red and Gold next year.

  94. bmfwest says: Dec 10, 2011 1:11 PM

    omg, people get a grip. Manning Peyton is NEVER playing again. I had the same injury, and the same surgery. One hit in the wrong place will PARALYZE him for life…u idiots cant seem to grasp this!

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