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	<title>Comments on: Charles Woodson fined $15,000 for roughing Eli Manning</title>
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		<title>By: packerbacker12</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 20:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Packers have the most overrated QB in the history of the game.All he does is throw 5-10 yard passes and the WR’S do the rest 90% of the time.Talk about inflating you’re QB ratings and your stats.

Wonder when the Pack will play a team that is .500 or better and NOT missing their best player/players.Saints were without their #1 WR , Falcons without their #1 pass rusher , Lions without 3-4 stating defensive players including their #1 CB and DT and RB.Talk about overratted.&quot;




Of course the wide receivers pick up most of the yardage. It&#039;s their damn job, jackwagon. It&#039;s the quarterback&#039;s job to get the ball to them. 





I&#039;m not sure why you are registered on a football-related site because you clearly don&#039;t know anything about football.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Packers have the most overrated QB in the history of the game.All he does is throw 5-10 yard passes and the WR’S do the rest 90% of the time.Talk about inflating you’re QB ratings and your stats.</p>
<p>Wonder when the Pack will play a team that is .500 or better and NOT missing their best player/players.Saints were without their #1 WR , Falcons without their #1 pass rusher , Lions without 3-4 stating defensive players including their #1 CB and DT and RB.Talk about overratted.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course the wide receivers pick up most of the yardage. It&#8217;s their damn job, jackwagon. It&#8217;s the quarterback&#8217;s job to get the ball to them. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why you are registered on a football-related site because you clearly don&#8217;t know anything about football.</p>
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		<title>By: bowsandarrows44</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 19:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@vanislebob

Are you being disingenuous to be obnoxious, or do you have a mental disorder and really not see what the difference is.

-Also people saying that Rodgers throws 5-10 yard passes: #1, he has the highest YPA in the league. #2, he has been throwing the ball shorter as of late because defenses have become terrified of his long ball and play deeper coverage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@vanislebob</p>
<p>Are you being disingenuous to be obnoxious, or do you have a mental disorder and really not see what the difference is.</p>
<p>-Also people saying that Rodgers throws 5-10 yard passes: #1, he has the highest YPA in the league. #2, he has been throwing the ball shorter as of late because defenses have become terrified of his long ball and play deeper coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: 13xworldchamps</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[13xworldchamps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dec 9, 2011 4:51 PM 
Packers have the most overrated QB in the history of the game.All he does is throw 5-10 yard passes and the WR’S do the rest 90% of the time.Talk about inflating you’re QB ratings and your stats.

Wonder when the Pack will play a team that is .500 or better and NOT missing their best player/players.Saints were without their #1 WR , Falcons without their #1 pass rusher , Lions without 3-4 stating defensive players including their #1 CB and DT and RB.Talk about overratted.

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Wah Wah Wah, your restore the roar lions start off 5-0 and then go 2-5. Don&#039;t blame the Packers or the refs because your teams been unable to keep up.

Let&#039;s see. The Packers were missing, Clifton, Sitton, Starks, Hawk, Bishop, and Collins.

Stafford has played the whole seaso, I thought as long as stafford stayed healthy you guys had the superbowl in the bag.

Injuries are the biggest part of this game, and if your managemant can&#039;t fill the bottom third of the roster with replaeable talent don&#039;t blame us.

The Packers Motto is next man up, last year we had 17 on IR and still won the superbowl. Ted Thompson is the &quot;BEST&quot; GM in the buisness and it isn&#039;t even close.......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dec 9, 2011 4:51 PM<br />
Packers have the most overrated QB in the history of the game.All he does is throw 5-10 yard passes and the WR’S do the rest 90% of the time.Talk about inflating you’re QB ratings and your stats.</p>
<p>Wonder when the Pack will play a team that is .500 or better and NOT missing their best player/players.Saints were without their #1 WR , Falcons without their #1 pass rusher , Lions without 3-4 stating defensive players including their #1 CB and DT and RB.Talk about overratted.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Wah Wah Wah, your restore the roar lions start off 5-0 and then go 2-5. Don&#8217;t blame the Packers or the refs because your teams been unable to keep up.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see. The Packers were missing, Clifton, Sitton, Starks, Hawk, Bishop, and Collins.</p>
<p>Stafford has played the whole seaso, I thought as long as stafford stayed healthy you guys had the superbowl in the bag.</p>
<p>Injuries are the biggest part of this game, and if your managemant can&#8217;t fill the bottom third of the roster with replaeable talent don&#8217;t blame us.</p>
<p>The Packers Motto is next man up, last year we had 17 on IR and still won the superbowl. Ted Thompson is the &#8220;BEST&#8221; GM in the buisness and it isn&#8217;t even close&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: 13xworldchamps</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dec 9, 2011 4:51 PM 
Packers have the most overrated QB in the history of the game.All he does is throw 5-10 yard passes and the WR’S do the rest 90% of the time.Talk about inflating you’re QB ratings and your stats.

Wonder when the Pack will play a team that is .500 or better and NOT missing their best player/players.Saints were without their #1 WR , Falcons without their #1 pass rusher , Lions without 3-4 stating defensive players including their #1 CB and DT and RB.Talk about overratted.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dec 9, 2011 4:51 PM<br />
Packers have the most overrated QB in the history of the game.All he does is throw 5-10 yard passes and the WR’S do the rest 90% of the time.Talk about inflating you’re QB ratings and your stats.</p>
<p>Wonder when the Pack will play a team that is .500 or better and NOT missing their best player/players.Saints were without their #1 WR , Falcons without their #1 pass rusher , Lions without 3-4 stating defensive players including their #1 CB and DT and RB.Talk about overratted.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: truthserum4u</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 09:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Come on Packer fans, stop claiming he didn&#039;t get him in the head or that it was a tap.

He clearly hit him in the head.  Intentional or not it&#039;s a penalty and was correctly called.

Now the fine?  It really wasn&#039;t a &quot;blow&quot; to the head, didn&#039;t appear to be on purpose, so I really don&#039;t think a fine is warranted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on Packer fans, stop claiming he didn&#8217;t get him in the head or that it was a tap.</p>
<p>He clearly hit him in the head.  Intentional or not it&#8217;s a penalty and was correctly called.</p>
<p>Now the fine?  It really wasn&#8217;t a &#8220;blow&#8221; to the head, didn&#8217;t appear to be on purpose, so I really don&#8217;t think a fine is warranted.</p>
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		<title>By: houndog50</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 05:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[packerhater says: Dec 9, 2011 4:51 PM

Wonder when the Pack will play a team that is .500 or better?
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Well, the Packers ARE guaranteed at least two games a year against a lousy team, the Lions are in the same division................]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>packerhater says: Dec 9, 2011 4:51 PM</p>
<p>Wonder when the Pack will play a team that is .500 or better?<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Well, the Packers ARE guaranteed at least two games a year against a lousy team, the Lions are in the same division&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: houndog50</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[houndog50]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 05:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Woodson didn&#039;t hit Manning as hard as Pettigrew hit the Ref, What&#039;s the problem?
Here kitty kitty. Here kitty kitty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woodson didn&#8217;t hit Manning as hard as Pettigrew hit the Ref, What&#8217;s the problem?<br />
Here kitty kitty. Here kitty kitty.</p>
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		<title>By: houndog50</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[houndog50]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 05:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[vanislebob says: Dec 9, 2011 4:03 PM

Packers are a good story, play clean, small town, etc. Lions are out of control.
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Thank you bob, I couldn&#039;t agree more!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vanislebob says: Dec 9, 2011 4:03 PM</p>
<p>Packers are a good story, play clean, small town, etc. Lions are out of control.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Thank you bob, I couldn&#8217;t agree more!</p>
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		<title>By: catfishcrusader</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[catfishcrusader]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 05:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He is the vilest football player since Albert Pujols. Suspend him forever. Give him to the Angels.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is the vilest football player since Albert Pujols. Suspend him forever. Give him to the Angels.</p>
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		<title>By: chuckydubs21</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 04:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about the FACT that Aaron Rodgers is third ALL TIME in yards per attempt average for his career. That&#039;s yards the balk travels in the air to get to the receiver. Ahead of Brady, Montana, Favre, Elway, Manning. 

Suck it, you ignorant hater.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about the FACT that Aaron Rodgers is third ALL TIME in yards per attempt average for his career. That&#8217;s yards the balk travels in the air to get to the receiver. Ahead of Brady, Montana, Favre, Elway, Manning. </p>
<p>Suck it, you ignorant hater.</p>
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		<title>By: 52claymaker52</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 04:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[packerhater says:Dec 9, 2011 4:51 PM 

Packers have the most overrated QB in the history of the game.All he does is throw 5-10 yard passes and the WR’S do the rest 90% of the time.Talk about inflating you’re QB ratings and your stats.
 
Wonder when the Pack will play a team that is .500 or better and NOT missing their best player/players.Saints were without their #1 WR , Falcons without their #1 pass rusher , Lions without 3-4 stating defensive players including their #1 CB and DT and RB.Talk about overratted.

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That &#039;overratted&#039; qb actually has better numbers when throwing passes over 10 yards than the passes 10 yards or less.   

But hey don&#039;t let facts get in the way of a good argument.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>packerhater says:Dec 9, 2011 4:51 PM </p>
<p>Packers have the most overrated QB in the history of the game.All he does is throw 5-10 yard passes and the WR’S do the rest 90% of the time.Talk about inflating you’re QB ratings and your stats.</p>
<p>Wonder when the Pack will play a team that is .500 or better and NOT missing their best player/players.Saints were without their #1 WR , Falcons without their #1 pass rusher , Lions without 3-4 stating defensive players including their #1 CB and DT and RB.Talk about overratted.</p>
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<p>That &#8216;overratted&#8217; qb actually has better numbers when throwing passes over 10 yards than the passes 10 yards or less.   </p>
<p>But hey don&#8217;t let facts get in the way of a good argument.</p>
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		<title>By: jjv2012</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 04:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[packerhater says: Dec 9, 2011 7:20 PM

Prove me wrong.

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Here is one example, from the Thanksgiving game against Detroit. (from ESPN.com)

Rodgers struggled in the first half going downfield, completing just one of five passes for 15 yards when throwing 11 or more yards downfield.

But in the second half, Rodgers regained his touch, going 6-7 for 180 yards on throws of 11 or more yards, including a touchdown to James Jones, helping the Packers stretch their overall win streak (including playoffs) to a franchise-record 17 games.

Rodgers was uncharacteristically off during the 1st half of the Lions game, but as you can see, did a little better in the 2nd half.  Kevin Seifert at ESPN has covered this stat quite a bit this year and has pointed out how that Rodgers&#039;s accuracy on deeper throws is what makes him stand out from other QBs.

There are other specific stats concerning this exact issue, but why spend the time looking for them when you won&#039;t believe them anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>packerhater says: Dec 9, 2011 7:20 PM</p>
<p>Prove me wrong.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Here is one example, from the Thanksgiving game against Detroit. (from ESPN.com)</p>
<p>Rodgers struggled in the first half going downfield, completing just one of five passes for 15 yards when throwing 11 or more yards downfield.</p>
<p>But in the second half, Rodgers regained his touch, going 6-7 for 180 yards on throws of 11 or more yards, including a touchdown to James Jones, helping the Packers stretch their overall win streak (including playoffs) to a franchise-record 17 games.</p>
<p>Rodgers was uncharacteristically off during the 1st half of the Lions game, but as you can see, did a little better in the 2nd half.  Kevin Seifert at ESPN has covered this stat quite a bit this year and has pointed out how that Rodgers&#8217;s accuracy on deeper throws is what makes him stand out from other QBs.</p>
<p>There are other specific stats concerning this exact issue, but why spend the time looking for them when you won&#8217;t believe them anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: supersuckers3</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 04:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Wonder when the Pack will play a team that is .500 or better and NOT missing their best player&quot;
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They one the world championship missing 16 guys and as of to date haven&#039;t lost a football game since this time a year ago.   You are a jealous hater.  Hate is not a recipe for anything other then suicide.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wonder when the Pack will play a team that is .500 or better and NOT missing their best player&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>They one the world championship missing 16 guys and as of to date haven&#8217;t lost a football game since this time a year ago.   You are a jealous hater.  Hate is not a recipe for anything other then suicide.</p>
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		<title>By: packerfan1000</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 03:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So now that he’s a double repeat offender we should expect a suspension on the next cheap shot right?
Oh wait…. He’s a Packet never mind.

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Dunt Dunt Da, Da Dunt Dunt Da! Go Packets Go!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now that he’s a double repeat offender we should expect a suspension on the next cheap shot right?<br />
Oh wait…. He’s a Packet never mind.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Dunt Dunt Da, Da Dunt Dunt Da! Go Packets Go!</p>
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		<title>By: jimmysee</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 03:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[packerhater says:
Dec 9, 2011 4:51 PM
Packers have the most overrated QB in the history of the game.All he does is throw 5-10 yard passes and the WR’S do the rest 90% of the time.Talk about inflating you’re QB ratings and your stats.

Wonder when the Pack will play a team that is .500 or better and NOT missing their best player/players.Saints were without their #1 WR , Falcons without their #1 pass rusher , Lions without 3-4 stating defensive players including their #1 CB and DT and RB.Talk about overratted.

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It&#039;s actually impossible to be &quot;overratted&quot; (sic) when you&#039;re 12-0.

Really.   Get a life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>packerhater says:<br />
Dec 9, 2011 4:51 PM<br />
Packers have the most overrated QB in the history of the game.All he does is throw 5-10 yard passes and the WR’S do the rest 90% of the time.Talk about inflating you’re QB ratings and your stats.</p>
<p>Wonder when the Pack will play a team that is .500 or better and NOT missing their best player/players.Saints were without their #1 WR , Falcons without their #1 pass rusher , Lions without 3-4 stating defensive players including their #1 CB and DT and RB.Talk about overratted.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually impossible to be &#8220;overratted&#8221; (sic) when you&#8217;re 12-0.</p>
<p>Really.   Get a life.</p>
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		<title>By: mikehockhurtz</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 03:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Didn&#039;t hit him hard enough to straight out Eli&#039;s lazy eye....]]></description>
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		<title>By: jimmer2372</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 01:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can we just put all QBs in pink bubble wrap with a flag football belt to boot?]]></description>
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		<title>By: packerhater</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/09/charles-woodson-fined-15000-for-roughing-eli-manning/#comment-1437144</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prove me wrong.]]></description>
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		<title>By: bozosforall</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/09/charles-woodson-fined-15000-for-roughing-eli-manning/#comment-1437137</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bozosforall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dirtiest player in the NFL.  Dirtest since Rodney Harrison.]]></description>
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		<title>By: 12greaterthan4</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[packerhater says:
Dec 9, 2011 4:51 PM
Packers have the most overrated QB in the history of the game.All he does is throw 5-10 yard passes and the WR’S do the rest 90% of the time.Talk about inflating you’re QB ratings and your stats.

Wonder when the Pack will play a team that is .500 or better and NOT missing their best player/players.Saints were without their #1 WR , Falcons without their #1 pass rusher , Lions without 3-4 stating defensive players including their #1 CB and DT and RB.Talk about overratted.

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funny, I thought the west coast offense was about 5-10 yard passes, and yards after catch, thats how Montana did it.... it is fun to read all the jealous peoples comments on a great team, they obviously do not know what good football is nor do they appreciate it! losers!! GO PACK GO!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>packerhater says:<br />
Dec 9, 2011 4:51 PM<br />
Packers have the most overrated QB in the history of the game.All he does is throw 5-10 yard passes and the WR’S do the rest 90% of the time.Talk about inflating you’re QB ratings and your stats.</p>
<p>Wonder when the Pack will play a team that is .500 or better and NOT missing their best player/players.Saints were without their #1 WR , Falcons without their #1 pass rusher , Lions without 3-4 stating defensive players including their #1 CB and DT and RB.Talk about overratted.</p>
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<p>funny, I thought the west coast offense was about 5-10 yard passes, and yards after catch, thats how Montana did it&#8230;. it is fun to read all the jealous peoples comments on a great team, they obviously do not know what good football is nor do they appreciate it! losers!! GO PACK GO!</p>
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		<title>By: gb4mn0</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/09/charles-woodson-fined-15000-for-roughing-eli-manning/#comment-1437113</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love all this hatred toward the Champs. Please keep making fools out of yourselves. Especially all you purple excrement balls from MN and the kitty box droppings from Detroit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love all this hatred toward the Champs. Please keep making fools out of yourselves. Especially all you purple excrement balls from MN and the kitty box droppings from Detroit.</p>
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		<title>By: jrmbadger</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/09/charles-woodson-fined-15000-for-roughing-eli-manning/#comment-1437028</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 23:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[packerhater says:
Dec 9, 2011 4:51 PM
Packers have the most overrated QB in the history of the game.All he does is throw 5-10 yard passes and the WR’S do the rest 90% of the time.Talk about inflating you’re QB ratings and your stats.

Wonder when the Pack will play a team that is .500 or better and NOT missing their best player/players.Saints were without their #1 WR , Falcons without their #1 pass rusher , Lions without 3-4 stating defensive players including their #1 CB and DT and RB.Talk about overratted.
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Wow.... I guess I have a new found appreciation for what Patriots fans deal with.  Lots of people jealous of the Packers&#039; success.  I wont even give such a poorly reasoned post an answer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>packerhater says:<br />
Dec 9, 2011 4:51 PM<br />
Packers have the most overrated QB in the history of the game.All he does is throw 5-10 yard passes and the WR’S do the rest 90% of the time.Talk about inflating you’re QB ratings and your stats.</p>
<p>Wonder when the Pack will play a team that is .500 or better and NOT missing their best player/players.Saints were without their #1 WR , Falcons without their #1 pass rusher , Lions without 3-4 stating defensive players including their #1 CB and DT and RB.Talk about overratted.<br />
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<p>Wow&#8230;. I guess I have a new found appreciation for what Patriots fans deal with.  Lots of people jealous of the Packers&#8217; success.  I wont even give such a poorly reasoned post an answer.</p>
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		<title>By: dublindemonszfl</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 22:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All packers cheat, Woodson should be suspended for 4 weeks.  The rampant cheating on this team has to be controlled.  They give a bad name to quality organizations like the Raiders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All packers cheat, Woodson should be suspended for 4 weeks.  The rampant cheating on this team has to be controlled.  They give a bad name to quality organizations like the Raiders.</p>
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		<title>By: gcsuk</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/09/charles-woodson-fined-15000-for-roughing-eli-manning/#comment-1436971</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 22:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dellied says:  Dec 9, 2011 4:45 PM

In fact, here’s a snapshot of the penalty in question

http://ph.cdn.photos.upi.com/collection/upi/c241ee30991ffe7a4ccd98ea9bc5f2b1/Green-Bay-Packers-Charles-Woodson-gets-called-for-an-Illegal-Contact-penalty-on-New-York-Giants-Eli-Manning-at-MetLife-Stadium-in-New-Jersey_17.jpg

Where is his forearm making contact with his helmet? His hand barely pushes against his helmet – I wish I could find a video online to show you morons how retarded this call was.
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Soooooo, it&#039;s OK to use a still picture when the call went against the Packers, but you CAN&#039;T use a still picture to support the Jake Ballard TD/No TD? OK, thanks for clearing that up for us.

A still picture does NOTHING in either instance. It does not show the follow through and final actions. It merely shows ONE instance in the whole action.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dellied says:  Dec 9, 2011 4:45 PM</p>
<p>In fact, here’s a snapshot of the penalty in question</p>
<p><a href="http://ph.cdn.photos.upi.com/collection/upi/c241ee30991ffe7a4ccd98ea9bc5f2b1/Green-Bay-Packers-Charles-Woodson-gets-called-for-an-Illegal-Contact-penalty-on-New-York-Giants-Eli-Manning-at-MetLife-Stadium-in-New-Jersey_17.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://ph.cdn.photos.upi.com/collection/upi/c241ee30991ffe7a4ccd98ea9bc5f2b1/Green-Bay-Packers-Charles-Woodson-gets-called-for-an-Illegal-Contact-penalty-on-New-York-Giants-Eli-Manning-at-MetLife-Stadium-in-New-Jersey_17.jpg</a></p>
<p>Where is his forearm making contact with his helmet? His hand barely pushes against his helmet – I wish I could find a video online to show you morons how retarded this call was.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Soooooo, it&#8217;s OK to use a still picture when the call went against the Packers, but you CAN&#8217;T use a still picture to support the Jake Ballard TD/No TD? OK, thanks for clearing that up for us.</p>
<p>A still picture does NOTHING in either instance. It does not show the follow through and final actions. It merely shows ONE instance in the whole action.</p>
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		<title>By: dellied</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 22:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great logic. I think that was the same argument Donte Stallworth’s lawyer used a few years back, except it was “It was clearly unintentional, let him keep driving”.

And what you actually meant was it LOOKED unintentional. Only the player knows what he actually intended.

Perhaps you should sell your 1 share of Packers stock for some common sense?

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Wrong.  Just wrong.

By your definition there should be no such thing as manslaughter or 2nd and 3rd degree murders.  You absolutely can determine intent using evidentiary support besides having some magical mind-beam that allows you to read a player&#039;s thoughts.

How about you try using your eyeballs and watching the clip where it actually happened.  It becomes clear to everyone (including the game commentators) that it was unintentional.

Next!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great logic. I think that was the same argument Donte Stallworth’s lawyer used a few years back, except it was “It was clearly unintentional, let him keep driving”.</p>
<p>And what you actually meant was it LOOKED unintentional. Only the player knows what he actually intended.</p>
<p>Perhaps you should sell your 1 share of Packers stock for some common sense?</p>
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<p>Wrong.  Just wrong.</p>
<p>By your definition there should be no such thing as manslaughter or 2nd and 3rd degree murders.  You absolutely can determine intent using evidentiary support besides having some magical mind-beam that allows you to read a player&#8217;s thoughts.</p>
<p>How about you try using your eyeballs and watching the clip where it actually happened.  It becomes clear to everyone (including the game commentators) that it was unintentional.</p>
<p>Next!</p>
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		<title>By: gmen1987</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gmen1987]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 22:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank God for Commissioner Goodell.]]></description>
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		<title>By: jrmbadger</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/09/charles-woodson-fined-15000-for-roughing-eli-manning/#comment-1436874</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 22:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The call was made because of the letter of the law (thou shalt not touch a qb&#039;s helmet).  However, Woodson was not at all trying to hit Eli in the head.  Its one of those things that just happened.  

Comparing Woodson&#039;s accidental tap of Eli&#039;s helmet while the play was ongoing to Suh&#039;s stomping of EDS after the whistle makes you look foolish.  

I realize you feel the media and maybe even the league are persecuting your franchise, but if you go on over to the NFC north blog at ESPN you&#039;ll notice that Kevin Seifert does a nice job today of presenting you with the statistics that since Schwartz has been Head Coach - the Lions have the MOST personal foul calls in the league - (2nd place - the Raiders).  So the media is off the hook - your perception of dirtiness isn&#039;t a perception - its a reality.  Statistically proven.   

Clearly there is a problem with your football team and not the media&#039;s perception of it.  Perhaps if you direct your anger to your coaches failure to recognize and deal with the problem you may find better results.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The call was made because of the letter of the law (thou shalt not touch a qb&#8217;s helmet).  However, Woodson was not at all trying to hit Eli in the head.  Its one of those things that just happened.  </p>
<p>Comparing Woodson&#8217;s accidental tap of Eli&#8217;s helmet while the play was ongoing to Suh&#8217;s stomping of EDS after the whistle makes you look foolish.  </p>
<p>I realize you feel the media and maybe even the league are persecuting your franchise, but if you go on over to the NFC north blog at ESPN you&#8217;ll notice that Kevin Seifert does a nice job today of presenting you with the statistics that since Schwartz has been Head Coach &#8211; the Lions have the MOST personal foul calls in the league &#8211; (2nd place &#8211; the Raiders).  So the media is off the hook &#8211; your perception of dirtiness isn&#8217;t a perception &#8211; its a reality.  Statistically proven.   </p>
<p>Clearly there is a problem with your football team and not the media&#8217;s perception of it.  Perhaps if you direct your anger to your coaches failure to recognize and deal with the problem you may find better results.</p>
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		<title>By: southsideslasher</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love all the packer haters, I	remember when I was 11 and thought the refs were paid of and stupid crap like that grow up maybe some day your team will be undefeated]]></description>
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		<title>By: packerbacker12</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Both of these fines are for actions that were much more dangerous than Suh stomping on an oppponents arm;&quot;





Suh stomped on a defenseless player while he was on the ground well after the play is over. But if you think that should take a backseat to what Woodson did, then you are clearly an idiot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Both of these fines are for actions that were much more dangerous than Suh stomping on an oppponents arm;&#8221;</p>
<p>Suh stomped on a defenseless player while he was on the ground well after the play is over. But if you think that should take a backseat to what Woodson did, then you are clearly an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: textexington</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[textexington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[12-0. Go Pack Go!!!]]></description>
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