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League’s explanation of hit on McCoy doesn’t bode well for Harrison

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The Browns likely are in hot water for allowing quarterback Colt McCoy to play with a concussion.  Steelers linebacker James Harrison apparently will be in hot water for giving it to him.

We explained earlier today that the rule book contains language supporting Harrison’s belief that McCoy was fair game for a helmet-to-helmet hit because he was running with the ball toward the line of scrimmage before flipping it at the last instant to running back Montarrio Hardesty.  But the league has sent to PFT an explanation of the roughing the passer penalty called on Harrison, and the league’s explanation suggests that Harrison will be facing discipline next week.

“In the fourth quarter of the Cleveland Browns-Pittsburgh Steelers game last night, Steelers linebacker James Harrison was penalized for roughing the passer,” the league said.   “Rule 12, Section 2, Article 13(8) and (3) of the NFL Rule Book (page 75-76) is applicable to the roughing the passer penalty called against Harrison.

“When a passer is outside the pocket area as in the case of Cleveland quarterback Colt McCoy last night, he is still afforded the protection of Rule 12, Section 2, Article 13 (3), which prohibits defensive players from using their helmet against a passer who is in a defenseless posture, including by “forcibly hitting the passer’s head or neck area with the helmet or facemask, regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the passer by encircling or grasping him.”

The text of the applicable rules appears after the break.

Rule 12, Section 2, Article 13(8) contains language that could give Harrison a safe harbor based on the fact that McCoy was running with the ball toward the line of scrimmage before he flipped the ball to Hardesty, by exempting from the rule any quarterback who is “attempting to advance the ball as a runner.”  So I specifically  asked league spokesman Greg Aiello whether McCoy would be viewed as “attempting to advance the ball as a runner.”

In response, Aiello pointed out the presence of the following clause, from the same rule:  “or throws while on the run.”  This apparently means that, in the league’s view, the fact that McCoy threw while running with the ball brought him within the protection against blows to the head, even if he was before throwing the ball “attempting to advance the ball as a runner.”

As a result, Harrison most likely will be hearing from the league next Tuesday.  Given his history — three fines last year for hits on quarterbacks and one for unnecessary roughness for a total post-appeal amount of $57,500 — Harrison now faces a significant fine, and possibly a suspension.

HITS TO PASSER’S HEAD AND USE OF HELMET AND FACEMASK

(3) In covering the passer position, Referees will be particularly alert to fouls in which defenders impermissibly use the helmet and/or facemask to hit the passer, or use hands, arms, or other parts of the body to hit the passer forcibly in the head or neck area (see also the other unnecessary-roughness rules covering these subjects). A defensive player must not use his helmet against a passer who is in a defenseless posture for example, (a) forcibly hitting the passer’s head or neck area with the helmet or facemask, regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the passer by encircling or grasping him, or (b) lowering the head and making forcible contact with the top/crown or forehead/”hairline” parts of the helmet against any part of the passer’s body. This rule does not prohibit incidental contact by the mask or non-crown parts of the helmet in the course of a conventional tackle on a passer.

PASSER OUT OF THE POCKET

(8) When the passer goes outside the pocket area and either continues moving with the ball (without attempting to advance the ball as a runner) or throws while on the run, he loses the protection of the one-step rule provided for in (1) above, and the protection against a low hit provided for in (5) above, but he remains covered by all the other special protections afforded to a passer in the pocket (numbers 2, 3, 4, 6, and 7), as well as the regular unnecessary-roughness rules applicable to all player positions. If the passer stops behind the line and clearly establishes a passing posture, he will then be covered by all of the special protections for passers.

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143 Responses to “League’s explanation of hit on McCoy doesn’t bode well for Harrison”
  1. deepseabreeze says: Dec 9, 2011 4:10 PM

    way to bust out the ol’ rule book, guys

  2. jamaltimore says: Dec 9, 2011 4:12 PM

    He should be suspended for a game as he’s a blatant repeat offender. There is no way the league will do it with them heading to San Fran next week. Go Niners.

  3. ortonwhiskeycrew says: Dec 9, 2011 4:15 PM

    James Harrison probably can’t read the name on his driver’s license, you think he can read and understand those rules?

  4. birdobeamen says: Dec 9, 2011 4:16 PM

    When is the NFL going to get rid of this guy? He is a menace. He cannot play within the rules and therefore should not be allowed to play the game.

    All these linebackers play within the rules and are still considered dangerous linebackers (Ray Lewis, Clay Mathews etc. etc.) — this guy is constantly trying to go out there and end someone’s career.

    The NFL should end his permanently.

  5. dohpey28 says: Dec 9, 2011 4:16 PM

    Hopefully he gets suspended, and hopefully for the rest of the regular season. It’s obvious fines aren’t getting the message across to this knucklehead.

  6. pnut87 says: Dec 9, 2011 4:17 PM

    So what ever happened to fundamental tackling? I mean putting your shoulder in to the guys center of gravity and wrapping him up? Everyone wants the big blow-up hit. What Harrison hasn’t figured out, is that his technique of launching head first into the other guys head is not only bad form, but illegal for years now. Guess all those head shots he’s doing to himself is adding up. And yeah, yeah, thumbs down cuz he’s a Steeler and I’m talking against his favor. He’s a dirty player.

  7. jagwar73 says: Dec 9, 2011 4:17 PM

    Suspend him and his big HGH head!

  8. havok82 says: Dec 9, 2011 4:17 PM

    Please make a check for $100,000 payable to the NFL. Your local charities thank you for this donation.

    Oh, and if you would like to observe the next two Steeler games, we hear Stub Hub is an excellent choice for tickets.

  9. rayvens says: Dec 9, 2011 4:17 PM

    Wat is the league doing with all this fine money???????….they are about to generate more money from fines than TV revenue.

  10. whatsafairway says: Dec 9, 2011 4:18 PM

    I think Shurmur and Harrison should both face suspension for irresponsible acts concerning a players health for personal gains.

  11. mrnick66 says: Dec 9, 2011 4:18 PM

    page 6,chapter 13,subset ‘Q’ of the star fleet academy says “bad boy” we are going to take your money and not let you play. profootball or golf which sport is wimpiest ?

  12. knowerofallthings says: Dec 9, 2011 4:18 PM

    He going to continue being a headhunter; that’s his job. I doubt he cares about the fines, they’re tax deductible. If his coach wanted him to stop playing that way why doesn’t he speak up? Exactly.

  13. thekiy says: Dec 9, 2011 4:18 PM

    At this point, every player will need a radio in their helmet so that their lawyers can advise them on whether or not to make a tackle.

  14. felcus says: Dec 9, 2011 4:18 PM

    NFL; now the league of splitting hairs.

  15. jimmysee says: Dec 9, 2011 4:19 PM

    Sounds to me like assault with a deadly weapon.

    Hope the league responds accordingly to this repeat offender.

  16. kh221 says: Dec 9, 2011 4:19 PM

    Leading with the crown of the helmet was a cheap shot in this case and Harrison gets what he deserves.

    However, I’m tired of QB’s taking valid hard hits and getting awarded with a flag. Wussification of the game at times.

  17. detroitkitty says: Dec 9, 2011 4:20 PM

    Not a Pittsburgh homey (go Lions!) but what a load of crap. They obviously have a bunch of useless lawyer-types sitting around at NFL HQ parsing the rulebook.

    The dude was running toward the line of scrimmage with the football. Not sideways, forward. If that’s not attempting to advance the ball I don’t know what is.

    Hint for QBs, if you are thinking about running with the ball and you see James Harrison running at you – throw it out of bounds ASAP.

    NFL rules = one huge mess. It’s a game. It shouldn’t be this complicated…

  18. bearsstillsuck says: Dec 9, 2011 4:21 PM

    if he’s not suspended ill be very disappointed. rules are rules, and if he doesn’t like them, he should get them changed or he can retire. the game of football will go on just fine without him.

  19. docredskin says: Dec 9, 2011 4:22 PM

    All rules go well with the new skirted uniforms to be debuted in 2012.

  20. selmonfan63 says: Dec 9, 2011 4:22 PM

    That’s what I was thinking.

  21. ike1973 says: Dec 9, 2011 4:22 PM

    Must be at least 2 game suspension.

  22. nyyjetsknicks says: Dec 9, 2011 4:22 PM

    It’s either a $100k fine or a 1 game suspension, because of his prior fines.

  23. kadeeu says: Dec 9, 2011 4:24 PM

    Another one of the “interpretations” that only make sense if the game is played in slow motion

  24. 7pints says: Dec 9, 2011 4:25 PM

    The only question is who is the dirtiest player in the league? Suh, Harrison or maybe Finnegan? I know Suh is the popular choice, but the other 2 deserve some votes.

  25. deviantfate says: Dec 9, 2011 4:27 PM

    So if McCoy would’ve kept running, as the same hit would’ve occured then it wouldn’t be an illegal hit. But because McCoy decided to flip/pass it, the same exact hit is considered illegal.

    How the hell is a defender supposed to know which rule applies to a scrambling QB if he has no idea what the QBs intentions are. The QB could even potentially have every intention of “advanving the ball as a runner” but then if a defender gets too close to make yardage he could at an instant decide to throw it and be covered by a different set of rules…

    Getting alittle ridiculous to be a defender in the NFL, not only do you have to KNOW all these different stipulations and designations but now you actually have to be a Mind Reader too!

  26. artandirene says: Dec 9, 2011 4:30 PM

    This guy is out to hurt people as a thing of pride, football isnt about breaking the next guys body, as violent as it is thats not what its about am I right? I dont always agree with some of the ridiculous league rules but protecting the players heads is a brilliant thing everyone should understand, especially defensive players, and somehow someway, mr Harrison too.

  27. trbowman says: Dec 9, 2011 4:31 PM

    Make a statement NFL and hand him a long overdue suspension. One game without pay.

  28. johntonioholmes says: Dec 9, 2011 4:32 PM

    Everyone is saying “suspension.”

    Really? His fines are from last year. If you are going to carry them over to this year, then Dunta Robinson should have been suspended after his blatantly illegal hit against the Eagles.

    No one even suggested it for him though, because the NFL and the media didn’t put a target on his back.

    Plus, NFL fans are notoriously stoopid, and only demand action when they don’t like a certain player.

  29. higlandtownrob says: Dec 9, 2011 4:34 PM

    I get the fact that NFL rules are complicated but man…is this ridiculous or what: “Rule 12, Section 2, Article 13(8) and (3) of the NFL Rule Book (page 75-76) is applicable”. Are you kidding me? It’s like reading from the tax code.

  30. Steeler's Will says: Dec 9, 2011 4:34 PM

    Gonna love the OUTRAGE when he doesn’t get suspended. Especially from the Niner fans.

  31. jeffchadwick says: Dec 9, 2011 4:35 PM

    Having watched that replay a number of times, the only reason why the hit ends up being violent is because McCoy throws the ball. The very act of throwing the football leaves a player in a defenseless position, hence the penalty, fine, and potential suspension. If McCoy had ended up scrambling further towards the line of the scrimmage, there’s no way given the angle Harrison hit him that we’d be talking about this today.

    Honestly, Harrison just has to figure out a way to not decapitate defenseless opponents. It’s not rocket scientist, to quote Lance Briggs.

  32. safetypolice says: Dec 9, 2011 4:36 PM

    What is a “repeat offender”? There are at least 50 players in the league who have 2 or more personal fouls for tackling too hard. Should we spend those guys or only the ones that play for the Steelers?

  33. steelhammer92 says: Dec 9, 2011 4:39 PM

    McCoy tucked the ball away and ran straight toward Harrison. At that point it’s fair game, he was one-on-one with the defender as a runner. Incredibly dumb move by McCoy, but that’s what he chose to do and he paid for it. A full speed Harrison is supposed to somehow hold up once McCoy flipped the ball out at the last possible second? Give me a break. Linebackers are going to try to obliterate QBs any chance they get. That’s why QBs slide down or run out of bounds after scrambling. You all act as if Harrison is the only defender that would have gone for a knockout blow on a running QB.

  34. goblue714 says: Dec 9, 2011 4:39 PM

    Cmon guys he knows that’s not a legal hit, i’m not a browns fan at all but I thought that was dirty hit as soon as I seen it. See what you hit and lead with the shoulder, it’s that simple.

  35. fancyleague says: Dec 9, 2011 4:42 PM

    Goodell should go be the commissioner for a chess league somewhere. That doesn’t involve physics, a subject he obviously failed multiple times in school.

    Deion Sanders, of all people, explained it perfectly after the game. A football player cannot always avoid hitting another moving player with part of his helmet. If Colt were stationary, there’s no issue. Runners move, juke, and duck all the time. No human in the world has the kind of body control it would take to compensate for it. You either make the tackle and risk helmet contact, or you let the guy go.

  36. comeonnowguys says: Dec 9, 2011 4:42 PM

    Don’t like the rule changes?

    DON’T. WATCH.

    The flag shouldn’t have surprised anyone with two eyes and a brain.

    The rules aren’t going to get any easier for players like Harrison who would rather go for the unnecessary killshot when a shoulder in his gut would have dropped the QB and still given you that highlight hit.

    So, if you have a problem with it now, you’re going to have a problem with it later. So either deal with it or vote with your money/time.

  37. philrat says: Dec 9, 2011 4:42 PM

    The rule appears to be in conflict with itself. If the quarterback was advancing the ball as a runner Harrison’s hit is ok. Since the qb was running forward he wasn’t defenseless. Just because the qb flips the ball at the last second it shouldn’t protect him from a helmet to helmet his because there is no way for Harrison to stop his momentum at the last second!! This is a very poorly written rule that doesn’t take the actual speed of the game into account!!

  38. erikinhell says: Dec 9, 2011 4:42 PM

    deviantfate says:
    Dec 9, 2011 4:27 PM
    So if McCoy would’ve kept running, as the same hit would’ve occured then it wouldn’t be an illegal hit. But because McCoy decided to flip/pass it, the same exact hit is considered illegal.

    How the hell is a defender supposed to know which rule applies to a scrambling QB if he has no idea what the QBs intentions are.
    ==================================
    I would have no problem with Harrison hitting McCoy if he would have dropped his shoulder and driven into McCoy’s middle. That is what he should have done. Harrison is a head hunter. He’s lead with the crown of his helmet almost his entire career. McCoy stopped running when he through the ball, as he had to avoid crossing the line of scrimmage. At that point, he becomes the defenseless passer again. Once again, if Harrison lowers his shoulder into McCoy, no penalty. Once he puts the crown of his helmet into McCoy’s facemask, he’s broken the rules.

  39. steelersownyou says: Dec 9, 2011 4:43 PM

    If mccoy wasnt trying to pull hanky panky, he wouldn’t of been knocked into next week! He tried to act like he was running a he knew damn well he was gonna pass it! This is getting ridiculous. Can’t even play tough defense anymore! All you people making comments about Harrison are just mad cause your defense is soft! Dont hate congratulate suckas!

  40. tdem232wi says: Dec 9, 2011 4:43 PM

    I don’t understand, when we all signed up, Crewe said we would get to hit the guards as hard as we want…

  41. raiders12 says: Dec 9, 2011 4:45 PM

    I had just been thinking how the Browns had kept Harrison at bay the whole game when that happened…

    Reading the language above would make anyone go crosseyed, much less a defender trying to make a split second reaction to a ball carrier/passer. But I think every rational thinking person can agree that NFL players have to lower their attack point, or risk getting fined or suspended. Whether McCoy was running or passing, it is unquestionable that Harrison was intending on planting his dome into McCoy’s face mask. There was no “duck” or “last second change of position”. Granted, those are the hits we’ve grown up loving to see, it’s illegal now. He could have come in with the same speed, broken six of McCoy’s ribs by hitting him in the chest or gut, and been completely within the rules. Harrison is at fault, regardless of what the rules say, because he isn’t changing his approach at all. THAT is evident to any fan of the game.

  42. neelymessier says: Dec 9, 2011 4:49 PM

    Get real. The entire intent is to minimize concussions. Harrison should just tackle hard using the appropriate technique. When in doubt, don’t head hunt!! Not in pros where everyone has a huge built up neck, but in youth football or even high school, the most common cause of broken necks is attempting head shots. But remember…. when NFL players were polled on “most dirty” Harrison finished a distant second to Suh.

  43. cliffordc05 says: Dec 9, 2011 4:50 PM

    Harrison could have just as easily planted his helmet in the guys numbers and it would be a legal hit. The situation is very different from the one facing safeties who tackle receivers in the act of catching the ball. In many cases both players are airborne and there is a good chance that there will be helmet to helmet contact.

    Harrison did not have to lead with his shoulder but he could easily have lowered his target area.

  44. neelymessier says: Dec 9, 2011 4:57 PM

    Harrison was looking right at the play. Ball was released two strides away. At the time of the tackle he knew he was taking a head shot at someone who had just released the ball.

  45. ducksouped says: Dec 9, 2011 4:57 PM

    Hes either too stupid to understand the rules, or dumb enough to know them and blatantly disregard them. Either way hes in trouble, cant lead with your the crown of your head, hit him in the chest james, not real difficult, you intentionally went up high, cant do that. Hes a repeat offender, if the league ever wants to make a statement, suspend him a game, these fines are paid and then forgotten.

  46. DonRSD says: Dec 9, 2011 4:57 PM

    Harrison = modern day Neanderthal.
    Leave it to the Steal-ers to always try to bend the rules with their “concussion like symptoms”.

  47. bigblaw says: Dec 9, 2011 4:58 PM

    Guys getting fined Like Logan in Detroit for flipping the ball ? Unsportsmanlike conduct ??? What is the league doing with all this money? What can Defenses do ? I know GO LOW and blow a few knees out maybe Theisman a few people then the “league will learn “. This is turning people off from the Game! Go Low and snap a few legs and stand up and say ” it is legal Right Godell?”

  48. Stiller43 says: Dec 9, 2011 4:58 PM

    He had 6 prior rushing attempts in the game and was outside the pocket running towards the LOS with the ball tucked…like a runner…HE WAS A RUNNER.

    You dont wanna get hit hard, stay in the pocket.

  49. ernestbynershands says: Dec 9, 2011 4:59 PM

    Why is everybody ONLY banging on Harrison? What about Shurmur? The Browns’ medical staff? They allowed McCoy to go right back in.
    He was not even out long enough to properly assess him for a head injury. Text book sideline assessment protocols indicate if the initial concussion assessment is negative, the medical staff should reassess in 15 minutes. If the follow up assessment is negative, then the athlete may be considered for return to activity. Additional testing is suggested before the athlete is cleared to return.
    I know this stuff because it is what I do for a living.
    Maybe der Kommishoner should dole out the same punishment to Shurmur and/or the Browns’ medical staff that Harrison receives?

  50. gmen1987 says: Dec 9, 2011 5:04 PM

    James Harrison is going to be doing his Christmas shopping at the local Dollar Tree once he is hit with all these finds and miss game checks.

  51. franknunley57 says: Dec 9, 2011 5:04 PM

    God forbid a player dies on the field due to one these helmet to helmet hits.It will be the end of the NFL as we know it. Outlets like ESPN that promote these hits with segments like “He Got Jacked Up” are complicit in cultivating this culture. Ever watch college football on espn on saturdays? all the promos are of teams fighting & big hits when players helmets fly off. Their message is: if you want to make it on sportscenter guys,knock someones head off.

  52. richie500 says: Dec 9, 2011 5:07 PM

    The rule book is bigger than “War and Peace”
    I guess you need a lawyer to play football now?

  53. ravensman says: Dec 9, 2011 5:08 PM

    I am neither a James Harrison fan or a Steelers fan; but I have respect for both.
    What I did notice was that at the end of the play after McCoy returned, there was conversation between McCoy and Harrison which from all appearances seemed to be friendly. The analysts on NFL Network commented on this also.
    Not defending Harrison here, but after watching replays of the hit in question and their conversation afterwards, I’m thinking that there’s a possibility that the helmet to helment hit may have been inadvertent on Harrison’s part.

  54. theravens1 says: Dec 9, 2011 5:09 PM

    I can’t believe what a man Rothensburger is to play with an ankle hurt like that! Awesome Man-UP!

    Pouncey – Great player – hope he’s ok – I haven’t heard about his injury status yet?

    Ok – Harrison – He should have known not to lead with his helmet and try to knock a guy out like that. He should be suspended the rest of the year, and be fined. The rule is clear, and even when it’s not – he should know a hit like that on a defenseless quarterback (running, passing, sliding, or whatever) is no longer going to be accepted. He knowingly ignored that and INTENDED to do as much damage to McCoy as he could.

    Unfortunately, these three guys may be out, and or miss some of the rest of the season, when Pittsburgh needs them the most. We have a tough exciting division, and I want to win out against the best teams, in the best position they can be. That is going to prepare us (hopefully) to be the strongest superbowl contender!

  55. patgill4 says: Dec 9, 2011 5:12 PM

    I think everybody (including Rotoworld) is missing the point here…it doesn’t matter whether McCoy was a runner or a thrower…you can’t spear another player. Article 8(f) states in pertinent part: “If a player uses any part of his helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/”hairline” parts) or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily. Although such violent or unnecessary use of the helmet and facemask is impermissible against any opponent, game officials will give special attention in administering this rule to protecting those players who are in virtually defenseless postures . . .”Is anybody really going to argue that Harrison didn’t spear McCoy violently or unnecessarily? Maybe everybody is getting too hung up on the fact that the refs called a roughing the “passer” penalty?

  56. cardmagnet says: Dec 9, 2011 5:14 PM

    Harrison needs suspended, because he just plain doesn’t care about the rules. He will do what he wants when he wants, and he’s made that very clear. Maybe if you don’t let him on the field, he will give in and play within the rules.

  57. tobiasjodter says: Dec 9, 2011 5:15 PM

    This is only a big deal because most media types hate the Steelers and love to foment anti-Steeler hatred. It’s only a big deal because the media decided to make it a big storyline the second the game was over. Other players do the same thing and it’s an afterthought.

  58. ynotq says: Dec 9, 2011 5:19 PM

    Lets just go school yard and say no more QB runs…

  59. geefan1 says: Dec 9, 2011 5:20 PM

    I don’t know why anyone feels the need to make this so complex. Spearing has been illegal for decades. The Knucklehead leads with his head. Suspend him until he learns to keep his eyes up tackle properly.

  60. sophiethegreatdane says: Dec 9, 2011 5:20 PM

    Ravens fan here. Can’t stand the Steelers and I wish them nothing but losses.

    But this is just ridiculous. Harrison should plant the crown of his helmet squarely in Goodell’s chest.

  61. jeepin08 says: Dec 9, 2011 5:21 PM

    Now, maybe some of these less educated steeler fans, who have argued in previous articles that what Harrison did was wrong. Sorry no pictures for the less fortunate. The rule is pretty clear and has been for awhile. Sad part is that he had a few steps to pull up. But refused to do so for the mere reason he wanted to take out the QB.

    He needs to be suspended and lose a few gamechecks and probably still won’t get the point.

  62. earthtopft says: Dec 9, 2011 5:24 PM

    “Mr Harrison, this is the IRS. On your tax form you stated that you worked for the NFL, but declared 0 net income. Can you clarify that for us?”.

  63. FinFan68 says: Dec 9, 2011 5:26 PM

    What we have now is a a couple of lawyers arguing about verbiage within the rule book and this goes on every week–yet players are expected to make the split-second decision and refs make a similar decision moments later.

    SIMPLIFY THE RULES…Get rid of the legal stuff. Throw out all instances of the word “defenseless,” change the words that are easily exploited via subjective interpretation and remove any ridiculous exceptions to the norm such as the one cited above. Go back to the days when a catch was a catch, A TD was a TD and a fumble was a fumble.

    Leading with the crown of the helmet (aka spearing) is now, and has always been against the rules. Flag it accordingly and fine/suspend only the obvious headhunter plays. Make the fines stiff and the suspension swift and meaningful. If they don’t get it after the suspension then let the moron seek employment elsewhere (do not let them back in later on)

  64. jimmysee says: Dec 9, 2011 5:28 PM

    The league can either suspend Harrison for the year, or advise him he can continue to play with a 30’s era leather helmet.

  65. dmobey says: Dec 9, 2011 5:34 PM

    Wait, don’t they know this is a Pittsburgh player.

    Since when did the league start applying the rules to them?

  66. IMG says: Dec 9, 2011 5:35 PM

    Color me confused. There are situations where a helmet – helmet hit is legal?

  67. suckonetrebek says: Dec 9, 2011 5:38 PM

    Or Or Or, he could just execute a proper tackle. Then it wouldn’t matter when he hit him or what the QB was doing when he did. Just sayin’.

  68. sullijo1 says: Dec 9, 2011 5:44 PM

    Tebow will exploit this rule….

  69. easydog100 says: Dec 9, 2011 5:51 PM

    Harrison disregards the rules and is a blatant violator. A one game suspension, if that is the penalty, is nothing for him. He deserves to sit for the rest of the season.

  70. coachglove says: Dec 9, 2011 5:53 PM

    In watching a frame-by-frame video of the hit (on youtube) there are a few apparent things:

    1) McCoy pulls the ball out from a RB style carrying position and begins his throwing motion approximately 3 steps from Harrison.

    2) Harrison’s head is up and he is looking at McCoy up until the point at which he had already launched himself and about .5 seconds prior to the hit. Immediately he lowers his head slightly, ensuring that the part of his body to hit McCoy 1st will be the crown of his helmet (both dangerous and illegal)

    When you watch the video frame-by-frame it is readily apparent that Harrison could have avoided contact altogether if he wanted by simply not leaving his feet and sliding to his left (harder to do when your control points are no longer creating friction with the ground, but watch a RB jump over a pile and miss a LB sometime and you’ll see it’s quite possible to change the position of your body while rolling in air and doing so at NFL speed).

    The NFL has stated REPEATEDLY that they are placing an emphasis on QB protection and they have backed that up with fines and penalties almost every week. The default for any defensive player with regard to hitting a QB is that you don’t touch their helmet with any part of your body and leading with your head is going to end poorly for you. This is not a secret. Harrison is a multiple offender and will probably lose a game for this (in addition to a fine). Parsing the rule book is something commentators and bloggers can do all they want. Even watching it live, I tweeted “That’s gonna cost Harrison a game.” immediately after the play.

    Harrison could EASILY have launched himself at McCoy’s midsection and none of us would be talking about this. Instead he chose to jump UPWARD to create contact with a QB’s head. Doesn’t take a brain surgeon to know that isn’t gonna fly.

    For the record – Harrison is toast based on the last part of the rules mentioned in this article. You simply cannot hit ANY defensless player (same for a WR who misses a ball by a yard even on a bang-bang play) in his helmet and/or using yours. Harrison is looking right at McCoy for a good step and a half before the hit.

    This is a guy who can beat an OL off the ball because of superb reaction time, so don’t tell me he didn’t have enough time to react. Ever watch how quickly he gets off the ball when rushing a passer? You either have excellent eye/body reaction time or you don’t. What Harrison is lacking is discipline and he’ll either get some on his own or the league will get it for him.

  71. jimmysee says: Dec 9, 2011 5:58 PM

    That Harrison dude thinks he is Darth Vader with the helmet.

  72. bubba9er says: Dec 9, 2011 5:58 PM

    You know what I love about Patrick Willis of the 9ers? He lets his play do the talking. To my knowledge he has never been fined by the NFL, because he doesn’t have to spear QBs in the face to make himself feel tough.

    PWillis is the best LB in the NFL, and doesn’t have to play the fool like JH.

  73. oldbrowndawg says: Dec 9, 2011 5:59 PM

    Harrison is well known as a nasty, filthy dirty player. I hope he gets not only a suspension of at least two games for this incident, but a warning from the league that the next such incident will cost him half a season! Of course, it wouldn’t be all that bad to see some vigilante action on the field January 1st, either!

  74. bubba9er says: Dec 9, 2011 5:59 PM

    J Harrison is going to hurt himself one of these times while he tries to justify his head hunting in the rule book. I hope it never happens, but he just keeps taking the same shots. Dude won’t learn.

  75. tobiasjodter says: Dec 9, 2011 6:06 PM

    IMG says: Dec 9, 2011 5:35 PM

    Color me confused. There are situations where a helmet – helmet hit is legal?
    ————————————————

    Absolutely. Happens many many times every single game.

  76. emossome84 says: Dec 9, 2011 6:09 PM

    Wow there are really homers out there that think this wasn’t an illegal hit? It was obviously illegal, it may have drawn a flag or fine even years ago before the concussion awareness came up. Dude leaves his feet like a spear directly aimed at McCoy’s helmet. You can very very very easily see his helmet directly crushing McCoy in the face mask. You really think that is legal. Really? Cmon man, no need to further debate this.

  77. bucsfan5000 says: Dec 9, 2011 6:12 PM

    If he hit Tom Brady like that, he’d be ejected and get minimum $100K fine with a 2 or 3 game suspension.

    If it were Josh Freeman, no more than a $10,000 fine and no suspension or ejection.

  78. jg725 says: Dec 9, 2011 6:14 PM

    If mccoy had the ball in his hands or not – isn’t leading with your head illegal??

    And i’m amazed at how few ignorant pitt fans have come to harrison’s defense……..

  79. jeffa43 says: Dec 9, 2011 6:29 PM

    Really.. some of you are using Ray Lewis as an example of not being dirty?

    Really?

    Why did the league say there was no fine for Lewis on Ward? Still waiting on an answer for that one.

    To much bias on this topic. It is a fast game, you cannot change your direction that fast.

    Start wearing flags on the hip, and turn this into flag football.

  80. steellady says: Dec 9, 2011 6:34 PM

    How convient this rule didnt apply to Rayrays hit on a DEFENSELESS WR ..with the HELMET.Or the hits on Miller over the years.. and until recently(last night) all the hits Ben has taken to the head area.
    Lol how funny it is the same crying about Harrison applauded Scumbag lewis’s hit on Ward.. freakin weirdos.

    Harrision was probably in a state of shock he was even able to get near McCoy considering he gets held on pretty much every play.

  81. jtsticks says: Dec 9, 2011 6:35 PM

    I will leave the whole question of roughing the passer up to the professionals (though I do not believe it was) my real contention is the leading with the head, once again this idiot put his head down and launched head first into the upper body/head region, that is illegal, plain and simple. This guy just won’t learn.

    GO Bengals!!!

  82. goblue714 says: Dec 9, 2011 6:41 PM

    Here’s an interesting fact….if you hit your head going a mere 2 mph on a bike you can have severe head trauma. All the studies done and all the evidence compiled, and yet we have arguments for a guy that constantly uses his helmet as a weapon? Whether or not you like it he’s going to get suspended and fined.

  83. kozar19 says: Dec 9, 2011 6:42 PM

    I just don’t understand the Browns at all. Harrison knocked out two players last year leading high and going for people’s heads. In the old days, players would have taken care of this on their own on the field. You’re playing your historic and key division rival and they’ve beat you down now for over a decade.

    Why didn’t a couple of offensive linemen or a tight end go after Harrison the rest of the game? As in try to beat the $#@! out of him on every play? I don’t care if they got 15 yards for a personal fowl, I don’t care if it was blatant. I don’t care if they get tossed. Get some payback, go for the guys knees and the Steelers head hunting will stop. It’s called street justice. The Steelers have no respect for the Browns, they physically manhandle them and then intentionally try to knock their key players out of of games (Cribbs, Massaquoi, and now McCoy).

    And the Browns do… Absolutely nothing.

  84. TurdSandwich says: Dec 9, 2011 7:08 PM

    It’s so easy even a Steeler can understand.. Just don’t cheat. Woops..

  85. deadmanwalking47 says: Dec 9, 2011 7:09 PM

    he needs to be suspended 2 games,and the browns medical staff needs to be disciplined too.

  86. bspn2 says: Dec 9, 2011 7:09 PM

    “Rule 12, Section 2, Article 13(8) and (3) of the NFL Rule Book (page 75-76)”

    Jack Lambert laughs at this.

  87. canesfan56 says: Dec 9, 2011 7:11 PM

    It will take a suspension to change the way Harrison plays. Let’s see if Goodell has the intestinal (or testicular) fortitude to do the right thing.

  88. marshmont says: Dec 9, 2011 7:12 PM

    fry him. he is of low character and iq. fry him.

  89. ahs2 says: Dec 9, 2011 7:20 PM

    Hypocritical to compare this hit with Suh’s infantile, near-stomp to the arm. Who’s in danger of suffering long-term damage/death here, McCoy or the OLman from the packers?

    If Harrison gets any less than a 2 game suspension, it’s all BS.

  90. jaypace says: Dec 9, 2011 7:22 PM

    He smeared McCoy. It was a great hit. It’s football people

  91. ahs2 says: Dec 9, 2011 7:22 PM

    johntonioholmes says:
    Dec 9, 2011 4:32 PM
    Everyone is saying “suspension.”

    Really? His fines are from last year. If you are going to carry them over to this year, then Dunta Robinson should have been suspended after his blatantly illegal hit against the Eagles.
    ________________________________

    …and if you’re not going to carry them over, then everyone needs to shut up about Suh’s past transgressions…just sayin’!

  92. henrykissingerisgod says: Dec 9, 2011 7:41 PM

    There is no way they can suspend Harrison when they didn’t suspend seymour. He has punchedplayers the past two seasons. Now that is dirty, cheap and outside the rules

  93. tiproast says: Dec 9, 2011 7:42 PM

    bucsfan5000 says: Dec 9, 2011 6:12 PM

    If he hit Tom Brady like that, he’d be ejected and get minimum $100K fine with a 2 or 3 game suspension.

    If it were Josh Freeman, no more than a $10,000 fine and no suspension or ejection.

    More players have been fined for hitting Josh Freeman (Malcolm Jennings, William Moore) than have been fined for hitting Brady (Antonio Garay).

    Of course, Brady has been in the league a lot longer than Freeman. So it appears to me that Freeman is getting protected by the NFL more frequently than Brady.

  94. vmannj says: Dec 9, 2011 7:44 PM

    I remember the first day of youth league football:

    1) Never lower your head when you hit someone. You could break your own neck.

    2) Never use your helmet as a weapon.

    3) Fundamental tackling – lower your hips so that your facemask hits the guy in the gut (thus avoiding helmet to helmet contact).

    This jackwagon obviously doesn’t get it. It seems his stupidity and defiance are one in the same.

  95. bigbabies says: Dec 9, 2011 7:52 PM

    James Harrison is a beast and only plays the way he was taught from age 7. Dick Butkus, Jack Lambert, and a few hundred more old time players would agree that James is playing the game the way it was meant to played.

    All these rules are horse sh#t and so is Roger Goodell. He is ruining the game at a fast pace and you dweebs from momma’s couch agree with him. Go watch some soccer and leave this game to the big boys.

  96. vincentbojackson says: Dec 9, 2011 7:53 PM

    If it takes this much BS to explain it, it can’t involve any common sense.

    I guess Harrison should have pulled up and let McCoy run 15 yards down field.

  97. finsfrontofficeisajoke says: Dec 9, 2011 8:02 PM

    I don’t like James Harrison. I hate the Steelers.

    BUT

    Harrison did nothing wrong here. McCoy was outside the pocket, running the football. Harrison advanced on him, and at the last minute, McCoy threw the ball. Harrison can’t go low, because he’s trying to get to the ball, and helmet to helmet contact occurred. Nowhere in there was Harrison trying to “headhunt”. He’s been wrong in the past, but he’s right here.

    I still don’t like him, but he’s being screwed here.

  98. riverhorsey says: Dec 9, 2011 8:02 PM

    Time to bust the guy up with suspension.

  99. vman0626 says: Dec 9, 2011 8:13 PM

    Look, it’s football. We know the game is violent. But the fact remains that players are bigger, faster and stronger than ever; hence the collisions are more forceful. That being said, some players just don’t get ‘it’ – Harrison being one of the main culprits. How about suspending him for the Steelers first playoff game?

  100. jimmysee says: Dec 9, 2011 8:28 PM

    “James Harrison is a beast and only plays the way he was taught from age 7. Dick Butkus, Jack Lambert, and a few hundred more old time players would agree that James is playing the game the way it was meant to played.

    You talking about those old time players who are sitting in wheelchairs, dribbling their creamed corn, babbling away, and hoping for improved pensions and medical care?

  101. fmwarner says: Dec 9, 2011 9:27 PM

    patgill4 says: Dec 9, 2011 5:12 PM

    I think everybody (including Rotoworld) is missing the point here…it doesn’t matter whether McCoy was a runner or a thrower…you can’t spear another player.
    ====================================

    THANK YOU. All the parsing of rules and splitting of hairs being done both by the league and by posters here is completely irrelevant. Harrison clearly launched himself helmet-first into McCoy’s head. All the rest is just details. That’s spearing, and that’s never been legal. Sit his defiant ass down until he gets it.

  102. fmwarner says: Dec 9, 2011 9:32 PM

    bspn2 says: Dec 9, 2011 7:09 PM

    “Rule 12, Section 2, Article 13(8) and (3) of the NFL Rule Book (page 75-76)”

    Jack Lambert laughs at this.
    ===================================

    You know what? You’re right. Our bad. We should just have a bunch of guys from the Steel Curtain make all the rules. After all, it’s widely known that only the Steelers know what “real” football is all about.

    Especially Mike Webster.

  103. pravin68 says: Dec 9, 2011 9:34 PM

    So why isnt Ben afforded protection on a low hit because technically he was behind the line of scrimmage scrambling around looking for a receiver. yes, Ben was out of the pocket and I agree that it was a fair legit hit, But why do the rules allow for a low hit in one instance but not a high in the other?:

    Harrison should not be suspended. If he went full force, McCoy wouldnt have gotten up for minutes

  104. bigbabies says: Dec 9, 2011 9:40 PM

    “You talking about those old time players who are sitting in wheelchairs, dribbling their creamed corn, babbling away, and hoping for improved pensions and medical care?”

    Neither Butkus or Lambert are in a wheel chair and even if these rules are followed to the letter, players will still feel the effects from the game later in life.

    I’m all for safety, but forceful contact is the name of the game and that is the reason we watch it. I dont watch it to see penalties and fines.

  105. doe22us says: Dec 9, 2011 9:44 PM

    ravensman says:
    Dec 9, 2011 5:08 PM
    I am neither a James Harrison fan or a Steelers fan; but I have respect for both.
    What I did notice was that at the end of the play after McCoy returned, there was conversation between McCoy and Harrison which from all appearances seemed to be friendly. The analysts on NFL Network commented on this also.
    Not defending Harrison here, but after watching replays of the hit in question and their conversation afterwards, I’m thinking that there’s a possibility that the helmet to helment hit may have been inadvertent on Harrison’s part.

    Thats funny dude and conjecture but heck Colt didn’t know what the hell was going on after that hit. He might have thought Harrison was Santa bringing him a Christmas present.

  106. steelerdynasty2010 says: Dec 9, 2011 10:26 PM

    how on earth can you be in a defenseless position while RUNNING WITH THE FOOTBALL???????

  107. istateyourname says: Dec 9, 2011 10:26 PM

    Yes but what about the footnote to Rule 12, Section 2, Article 13(8) (Bb) (ii) (z) (L) (9) (q)which states, and I quote: “…except if such quarterback plays for the Cleveland Browns, because really, what does it matter…” end quote.

  108. goblue714 says: Dec 9, 2011 10:33 PM

    Cause he threw the ball moron, take your steeler blinders off.

  109. steelerdynasty2010 says: Dec 9, 2011 10:39 PM

    @vmannj:
    #3 will still get you fined in the NFL. cant lead with your head (facemask in your example, but all the same since they are attached) to initiate contact anywhere, but specifically the head/neck area. this only applies to the qb of course, but look at harrison’s hit on fitzpatrick last year. still hasnt touched his helmet on that play….

  110. kevpft says: Dec 9, 2011 11:15 PM

    The rules don’t need to be so needlessly complicated. They can make it all very simple in one easy move:

    Ban all leading-with-the-helmet hits to the head.

    It’s a dangerous practice – one of the most dangerous in the game – that leads to concussions and neck injuries. It’s a cheap, lazy tactic that requires no skill. And, as pointed out by others, it’s not even necessary for the “highlight reel” hits. Harrison hits him with his shoulder pads, he still goes flying.

    The result would be better sport, because it would be two professionals going at it with skill – runner vs. tackler.

  111. crusty14 says: Dec 9, 2011 11:45 PM

    @ravensman

    You seem to be a logical football enthusiast ! I agree with you and appreciate it from a ravens fan. Stuff happens in such a split second I. Time on the field that people can’t react. In slow motion it looks a lot worse than it is .if the players on the field can tal to each other and understand what happened , ( ie / inadvertent contact) why does everyone have to make such a big f’ing deal about it! It is a contact sport isn’t it?

  112. steelerrc says: Dec 9, 2011 11:47 PM

    If McCoys’s a RB, we are not having this conversation.

    Just sayin’……

  113. edavidberg says: Dec 9, 2011 11:55 PM

    I know most people on this board get it, but you cannot lead with the crown of your helmet no matter who the player is. Harrison is pulling Suh like shenannigans with this b.s. about McCoy being out of the pocket. He speared the guy right in the chin.

    If Harrison had lead with his shoulder he would have been fine and McCoy would not have been concussed. Leading with the crown is the most dangerous hit out there.

  114. bensteeler29 says: Dec 10, 2011 12:17 AM

    When I played football 20 years ago, my goal was to hurt people and put them out of the game, to fear me.

    At the highest level, get out the skirts???

    All u people that are talking trash on J Harrison, have simply never played football. If u did, you must have been on the bench, or the on the extra pt team.

    Hate the Steelers all you want, but respect what is being taken away from us, hard hits.

  115. darrelb says: Dec 10, 2011 12:40 AM

    Steeler’s Will says:
    Dec 9, 2011 4:34 PM
    Gonna love the OUTRAGE when he doesn’t get suspended. Especially from the Niner fans.

    ——————————————-
    Got news for ya, pal. The Niners are not the least bit intimidated by the Steelers. Hope Harrison and Roethlisberger (God, did I spell that right?) both play. Looking forward to it. Going to be a low scoring, hard-hitting, defensive game. Could go either way.

    None of that changes the fact that this perpetual head-hunter should be suspended. That hit with the crown of the helmet to the face-mask was a disgrace. A proud franchise like the Steelers and their fans should be embarrassed.

  116. patgill4 says: Dec 10, 2011 1:15 AM

    “how on earth can you be in a defenseless position while RUNNING WITH THE FOOTBALL???????”

    It doesn’t matter if he was defenseless or not, YOU CAN’T SPEAR ANY PLAYER.

  117. pravin68 says: Dec 10, 2011 1:27 AM

    Players are responsible for the actions even if unintentional. This blog item illustrates the confusion on the rule a whole day later. Does a last second decision to pitch the ball make him immune from hits?

    I say fine Harrison, but suspension for this is ridiculous. By the way, his hit on Fitzpatrick last year was clean as hell where he intentionally went for his chest area. So what else is left for Harrison to hit? The QB’s crotch? I have seen more Steelers taken out of games and the other team was not penalized for them. Example: Hines Ward last year and this year. Heath Miller – last year Ravens game and this year the Cinci game(which was a legit hit on Heath, but I have seen some games where even a non helmet hit was flagged because the nitpicky ref felt the receiver was defenseless).

  118. R.H. says: Dec 10, 2011 1:45 AM

    Whatever happened to that poster who felt compelled to respond to any comments with respects to James Harrison during the off-season?

    I wonder what excuse he’ll use to defend Harrison this time.

    Harrison is who he is: a head hunter. Plain and simple.

  119. chfranco says: Dec 10, 2011 2:03 AM

    So will Gokong be fined for hitting mendenhall. He hit him in the head with the crown of his helmet? If spearing is spearing as some are saying why isn’t this a fine.

    Also if harrison goes in with a shoulder a colt could have juked him and broken the tackle.

    the game is getting to the point were it’s going to be 2 hand touch pretty soon.

  120. supert1978 says: Dec 10, 2011 2:04 AM

    Helmet to helmet contact is illegal, QB or not. Harrison is a habitual violator. It’s suspension time.

    Who knows even if a fine/suspension will be handed down, if at all.

    I just don’t understand these fines anymore.

    Seymore punches a guy for the second year in a row, and no suspension (30k fine, Seymore laughs)?

    Suh gets suspended (he deserved it), but no fine for Titus Young for hitting a guy in the face?

    Ray Lewis levels Hines Ward. Clearly helmet to helmet. Not even a 5k fine?

    I could go on and on. Doesn’t make any sense.

  121. dryzzt23 says: Dec 10, 2011 7:44 AM

    Jack Lambert said it best “just put skirts on those QBs”

  122. steelerdynasty2010 says: Dec 10, 2011 8:30 AM

    @goblue714:
    ummm, so throwing the ball after CLEARLY having the ball tucked away (as a RB would carry the ball) would suggest that he was running “defenselessly” (however you do that)? yea, what a complete moron i must be because that’s real believable……so at what point does a person who’s RUNNING WITH THE BALL become defensible o omnipotent one?

    the only reason he threw the ball is because he was still behind the line of scrimmage and still had that option. it’s called smart qb play. make the defense defend as long as possible (or as long as it takes) to make a good play. clearly, he had to be looking upfield to even know there was an eligible receiver in the vicinity. defenseless players are those who are in effect distracted by their attempt to make a play and do not get a fair opportunity to prepare/brace for contact. if he was running the ball and looking at it (and not the defenders who are chasing the ball) while doing so, he’s an idiot. judging by what i’ve seen before, colt mccoy does in fact have enough sense to look at the defenders when/while he scrambles………

  123. johnhansler says: Dec 10, 2011 8:51 AM

    The bottom line is that Harrison gets treated unfairly compared to others.

    The NFL-poster boys like Brady, Manning and even Ray Lewis (who had ties to a murder) are treated differently.

    Let’s take Lewis for example. He knocked Hines Ward out of the game with a blatant helmet to helmet hit on a defenseless receiver and he didn’t even get a penalty.

    Lewis had some notable quotes about how he’s not going to change the way he plays, etc. The hit and quotes weren’t replayed on ESPN, NBC or any other networks. Would the same treatment be applied to James Harrison. NO.

  124. texasdyack says: Dec 10, 2011 8:53 AM

    steelersownyou

    If mccoy wasnt trying to pull hanky panky, he wouldn’t of been knocked into next week! He tried to act like he was running a he knew damn well he was gonna pass it! This is getting ridiculous. Can’t even play tough defense anymore! All you people making comments about Harrison are just mad cause your defense is soft! Dont hate congratulate suckas!

    Ask big ben how soft my texans defense is. harrison is to selfish to just make the tackle. He has to go for the highlighy reel every time. And if its his argument that its legal to hit a runner with the helmet, that means its still intentional. I know its legal, for now, but is it really his mission to end every person he tackles career? In 5-10 years when he’s braindead, he just might wish he had used a decent tackling technique. Or when his career is ended by his own tackle. 100k and 2 games out for the bum. Let the steeler whining continue….

  125. souldogdave says: Dec 10, 2011 9:03 AM

    He was fair game when hit. Little dudes like him need to be more evasive or they will get hurt. He was a running back out of the pocket in my view. Ronnie Lott couldn’t play in the league today, because of these interpretations .

  126. lp0320 says: Dec 10, 2011 9:05 AM

    OK I am a diehard Steelers fan here and as soon as I saw the hit from Harrison on McCoy, my stomach dropped. It was helmet to helmet, and whether he was running or passing, helmet to helmet should not be allowed. However, that rule should apply to every single player on the field, be it a WR or RB, TE and even a defensive player tackling and the offensive player is lowering the head during the play. It should be irrelevant who the player is, helmet to helmet should be penalized and fined. Consistent application is the key here. Harrison needs to play within the rule, so do Lewis, Suh, Suggs, and all the rest.

    That being said, please let me address all of the uneducated posters here who trash talk – grow up, it’s a game. At the end of the day, it is entertainment for you – not your livelihood.

  127. derekmallory says: Dec 10, 2011 9:20 AM

    The best way to avoid this ever-confusing situation is to suck at the linebacker position and never get to the quarterback.

  128. opbilly says: Dec 10, 2011 9:22 AM

    first off he wont be suspended because he plays for the steelers! second i am glad about that because they are better without him when they put their younger faster players in there. this guy is way overrated. his days are well behind him. and if the nflpa ever stops standing in the way of hgh testing, he will be long gone!

  129. warfelg says: Dec 10, 2011 9:29 AM

    What is kinda annoying of by the NFL to me is they will bust this out for Harrison hitting someone yet from when we got guys like Vick and Big Ben getting hit when they leave the pocket the Commish and Refs turn their heads and say oh well. If you’re going to bust this rule out in this case then flag it on all QB’s.

    Or is it only ok to protect passers and let the best improvising qb’s get killed every time they try to make something happen?

  130. holeinone09 says: Dec 10, 2011 11:12 AM

    No suspension is warranted. Even you say there was rulebook language supporting Harrison’s belief the hit was OK. What are players supposed to do, call time out during the play so their coaches and attorneys can check the details of the rulebook? This just gets way too confusing. McCoy was running with the ball, why do things have to be so complicated? If they want to fine Harrison again, fine, you know that’s coming. But any talk of a suspension is just dumb. This is his first “issue” this year. I have 2 other questions:

    1. How about the Brown’s player that clubbed Ben in the head late and got a penalty, is he also up for suspension too?

    2. A bigger issue is the Browns allowing McCoy back in the game so soon, ie TWO PLAYS. How do you test for a possible concussion in that short a time? If the Steelers did that, can you imagine what people would be saying about them right now?

    GO STEELERS!!

  131. gtisme says: Dec 10, 2011 11:16 AM

    I think anyone who has seen my posts over the years will verify I am a blood-purple Raven’s fan.

    McCoy WAS running with the football! Harrison should be fined for crown of the helmet but not suspended. The Browns should lose a 4th rounder for not taking him out. That was ridiculous not testing the guy.

    Just my opinion.

  132. alreggie says: Dec 10, 2011 1:12 PM

    Should be suspended. He’s a serial offender. Suh got 2 games for a little dust-up after a play. Harrison could have seriously hurt this guy. Sit him for a few games, maybe he’ll learn or not. Doubt it.

  133. steelersownyou says: Dec 10, 2011 6:39 PM

    They really need to have an IQ minimum on here in order to post a comment… 90% of these comments are so dumb I can’t even believe you people can even function in everyday life..From now on IQ must be at least 110 and up. Mine is 154 & i’m a member of mensa! That 110 minimum IQ should pretty much eliminate Ravens fans. Bengals fans. Browns fans. Any teams from Texas & new york. 49ers fans. Eagles fans. And Raiders fans. That should stop about 80% of the dumbness on here. Thank you for your co-operation dummies!

  134. alwaters9 says: Dec 10, 2011 7:05 PM

    Unbelievable. I suggest the NFL is making up the rules for penalties and fines as they go along. I also suggest that Goodell should be fired.

    My post gets deleted.

    Must be NBC wants to get back into NFL broadcasting more than one game per week, and will go to any lengths to protect the NFL.

    Maybe that is why NBC doesn’t like to show replays where the referees obviously have blown a call.

  135. easydog100 says: Dec 10, 2011 7:21 PM

    Mensa must have lowered their standards.
    Next thing you know, James Harrison will be a member.

  136. goblue714 says: Dec 10, 2011 8:03 PM

    Well steeler fans you can whine complain and let us know your a mensa member, but Harrison will be suspended so deal with it.

  137. wdmason says: Dec 10, 2011 8:32 PM

    I dont understand the hatred toward this man who wasnt drafted but continued working hard even after being cut by several teams. Hes a tremendous football player. If he put his head down, the damage would have been worse. Last year he put his head down only to hit helmet to helmet as the other player lowered his. I truly believe he cant win. Its a catch22. He will get fined even when he tackles with his face.

  138. steelersownyou says: Dec 10, 2011 8:49 PM

    @goblue714….He will not be suspended. I have inside word on that. He will be fined though. I would guess around 85k. But wishful thinking by you!

  139. cprnoit2000 says: Dec 11, 2011 9:30 AM

    Come on folks! Harrison sees McCoy throw the ball, then lowers his head.

  140. wdmason says: Dec 11, 2011 12:37 PM

    Harrison was upright and not in a spearing position. What if Harrison had lowered his head completely and McCoy had instinctively lowered his instead of throwing? Think people! There was a tenth of a second between the throw and the hit. You keep forgetting you are looking at slow motion.

    I think some of the golfers and handball experts here have never played tackle football. You can take their comments with a grain of salt.

  141. goblue714 says: Dec 11, 2011 3:05 PM

    My inside word says 2 games buddy.

  142. emedved says: Dec 13, 2011 9:30 AM

    Shouldn’t Paxson also be fined for hitting Ben below the knees?

  143. goblue714 says: Dec 13, 2011 11:21 AM

    Hey steeler fans’ …..HOW DOES THAT TASTE????. That’s when you have a dirty player on your team.

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