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Report: McCoy situation could lead to independent neurologists at games

Colt McCoy, James Harrison AP

As anyone who frequents this site on a semi-regular basis knows, we firmly believe that the NFL needs to dramatically improve the procedures for determining whether a player has suffered a concussion or, as the case may be, concussion-like symptoms.

I was disappointed to hear Jason La Canfora of the league-owned TV channel predict that the inexplicable ability of Browns quarterback Colt McCoy to re-enter Thursday night’s game two plays after being blown up by Steelers linebacker James Harrison won’t be a “watershed” moment for the league when it comes to concussions.  Roughly an hour later, I was encouraged to hear Chris Mortensen of ESPN predict that the McCoy case could be the catalyst for the league finally deciding to require  the presence of independent neurologists at games.

Although Browns coach Pat Shurmur has insisted that the appropriate tests were given to McCoy before he was cleared to return (even though the Browns declined to identify for us the tests that were administered), Mort reports that the Browns did not conduct the Sports Concussion Assessment Tool 2 (also known as “SCAT-2″) before clearing McCoy to return.

That’s a major problem.

And so, while we’re told that the league office accepts the Browns’ explanation that McCoy was showing no symptoms of a concussion during the game, Mort said that the NFLPA is describing the situation as a “blatant system failure” by the Browns.

In other words, this one isn’t going away any time soon.

Finally, to those who keep pointing out that the Browns properly used the concussion protocol to remove two other players from Thursday night’s game, a batting average of .667 isn’t acceptable when it comes to ensuring that players who have suffered concussions are protected against suffering a second one in the same game.

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28 Responses to “Report: McCoy situation could lead to independent neurologists at games”
  1. commandercornpone says: Dec 11, 2011 11:18 AM

    typical lawyer, crying for the liberal big gummint solution.

    if u get yer way, next u will complain about the games getting too long.

  2. onenobodyonlyknows says: Dec 11, 2011 11:19 AM

    Which could lead to players not playing for awhile doctors rule out alot of people and say things can’t be done but are proven wrong.

  3. tfaulk says: Dec 11, 2011 11:20 AM

    The major issue that everyone wants to talk around is that many symptoms may not be apparent for 24 hours or longer.

    No one, not the players, coaches, or NFL, actually want to make a proper, cautious diagnosis if they essentially have to presume concussion.

    When I had a concussion, I was fine 5 minutes after the hit, went to a movie, fell asleep which was a sign of trouble but it wasn’t suspicious enough at all, went home, and then an hour or two later couldn’t see or walk straight — when I walked straight into a wall 5 hours after the concussion… then they knew.

  4. worldwidebleater says: Dec 11, 2011 11:22 AM

    Simple test.
    1-Hold of a picture of Rob Ryan.
    2-Ask: Would you knock boots with Big Girl there?
    3-If they say yes. Bench them for at least a week.

  5. goawayeverybody says: Dec 11, 2011 11:28 AM

    I think this McCoy situation should lead to Pat Shurmur having his head examined.

  6. 730boy says: Dec 11, 2011 11:28 AM

    Dont the players have a say in how they’re feeling? if im a player and just took a big hit like that to my head if I feel even the least of any concussion symptom im not returning to the game unless its a playoff game… There is life after football got to be smart and not worried about being “less of a man”.

  7. packerman1968 says: Dec 11, 2011 11:34 AM

    Sorry, but I could tell from watching on TV that he had a concussion. Just the way he got up , told me so .

  8. seneca1ss says: Dec 11, 2011 11:41 AM

    McCoy need to grow some adult male muscles before he steps on an NFL field again

  9. kingjoe1 says: Dec 11, 2011 11:43 AM

    Yep, concussion may cause damage later in life; what is your point? That is part of life; our bodies reach a peak and than begin to detoriate. If you do a study on the effect on knees of walking up and down stairs you could make a similar argument about longterm impact. I know I know, “blah blah blah, we are talking about the brain…blah blah blah.” The point is that our bodies breakdown from everything we do in life.

    The media uses fear to control the general populous. Whether it is concussions, or cell phones causing brain cancer, or maybe the evil effects of soda. These and so many more will be brought to the forefront, only when a secondary agenda is desired.
    Before we know it contact of any kind will be taken out of all activities. IN the end, virtual games will be the only thing left for us to do.

  10. irshrek says: Dec 11, 2011 11:46 AM

    Whatever happened to the old “how many fingers?” That was a good enough medical test for decades.

  11. i3addog says: Dec 11, 2011 11:49 AM

    By now all the players are aware of the long term effects of multiple concussions but 99% of them would still rather not miss a game because the pressure to perform is tremendous. There is always someone ready to take your spot on the Team. This is why the League needs to step in and protect the players from their selves.

  12. steelersownyou says: Dec 11, 2011 11:55 AM

    In all truthfulness you only need an independent neurologist on the field when either the steelers or the ravens are playing. They’re the only physical teams in the NFL. All other defenses are soft and irrelevant! And for the lions you’ll need the police when suh plays Other than that. Should be fine.

  13. dachozen1 says: Dec 11, 2011 11:55 AM

    I guess Colt doesnt take any responsibility for this? He ran out of the pocket and seen Harrison coming directly at him, instead of him sliding he decided to hold the ball up until the last second. These new rules are giving players a false sense of security that this is not football. As a result, instead of McCoy sliding he assumes he is untouchable under new rules and doesnt protect himself like a qb wouldve slide 10 yrs ago. I get it the NFL doesnt wanna be sued but they are turning this game to something else. It is determining outcomes of games. It let’s me know how powerful the media influence is on people. The same sport everyone grew up and loved is now something dirty??

  14. tfaulk says: Dec 11, 2011 12:00 PM

    I think the concussion issue is a real one, but the McCoy situation just seemed like bad coaching.

    Let’s get McCoy in because he’s finally having a half decent game (not really, he’s had much better but at least they were still competing against a quality team) instead of leaving Seneca Wallace in who is a capable backup and just through a quality pass for a 1st down and kept the drive alive…

  15. thetooloftools says: Dec 11, 2011 12:02 PM

    I cannot imagine my Cleveland Browns not following protocol or screwing something up. Hahahaha.
    They are going to change their name to The Cleveland Gump’s here any day.

  16. steelersownyou says: Dec 11, 2011 12:13 PM

    @safetypolice…..I hope you get sanduskied in the near future! That way you can complain about a real rape instead of a fictitious one. And may you poop pancakes the rest of your life. God willing!

  17. 2difshoe says: Dec 11, 2011 12:14 PM

    The NFLPA must demand from the NFL and team ownership and then contractually agree on an amendment for the inclusion of an independent neurologist to be on the sidelines of all games. McCoy was clueless to where he was, what he was doing, and what his mother’s first name was after the Harrison hit. The League has no problem fining players for what the NFL deems personal foul, unnecessary roughness penalties, which come with substantial monetary fines.

    Time to consider fining the NFL for their lack of consideration in protecting players on the field, which result in injury, temporary or permanent.

  18. doyouevercheck says: Dec 11, 2011 12:16 PM

    If the league really wanted to stop this, they would not only heavily fine/suspend repeat offenders, but the head coaches who are unwilling to do anything about it.

    No I do not mean fining the coach of a guy who hit a person who ducks as the defender is coming in for the hit, but the players who are head hunting. The league needs to do a better job differentiating between deliberate violation of the rules, and inadvertent hits. Hits that the defender could not have easily avoided, should not draw a fine.

    Tomlin has been unwilling or unable to change his player’s behaviour, he therefore is as responsible as the player is. Hit Tomlin with a $250,000 fine and see how many more times Harrison does this.

    Harrison should be fined $100,000 and suspended for 4 regular season games, and any intervening playoff games.

  19. packattack1967 says: Dec 11, 2011 12:20 PM

    Where is the most overrated executive in football, Mike Holmgren on this one?

  20. 2difshoe says: Dec 11, 2011 12:23 PM

    irshrek says:

    Dec 11, 2011 11:46 AM
    Whatever happened to the old “how many fingers?” That was a good enough medical test for decades.

    =================================

    You tube ‘ Muhammad Ali at Joe Frasier Funeral service ‘ . You will see why the ‘ how many fingers ‘ is not enough !

  21. td40 says: Dec 11, 2011 12:25 PM

    You can blame it all on James Harrison. Without his repeated neanderthal, outside-the-rules behavior, the Browns would never have been in the position of mistakenly sending a concussed player back into a game.

  22. td40 says: Dec 11, 2011 12:31 PM

    730boy says:
    Dec 11, 2011 11:28 AM

    Dont the players have a say in how they’re feeling? if im a player and just took a big hit like that to my head if I feel even the least of any concussion symptom im not returning to the game unless its a playoff game… There is life after football got to be smart and not worried about being “less of a man”.
    ————————————————–

    Well, that’s part of the problem here. Colt McCoy DID tell Shurmur he was “ready to roll” and get back in the game. Of course, EVERY player, unless they are physically unable to move, will ALWAYS say they’re ready to go back into the game. Shurmur, being a total rube who apparently only needs to hear that a player is ready to return from that player himself, sent him back in.

    Just more proof that this clueless, over-his-head HC wannabe has no business on an NFL sideline.

  23. steelersownyou says: Dec 11, 2011 12:33 PM

    @doyouevercheck. Anyone ever told you that youre mentally challenged? Dumb question…Cause I know they have…Window licker…

  24. rubbernilly says: Dec 11, 2011 12:54 PM

    This site is becoming like one of those class-action lawsuit commercials.

    “Did you suffer the impact of another human running into you while you were employed by the NFL? Then you may have a claim to compensation. Call the law firm of Voldemort & Shai’tan for a free consultation.”

    (…and extra points to anybody who gets both references…)

  25. jagerbmb says: Dec 11, 2011 12:57 PM

    Better expend the rosters then… Because if/when this site gets what it wants, Doctors will say he took a hard hit and might have the possibility of being concussed. I’m holding him out until it is proven he doesn’t have a concussion. The sissification continues.

    And I’m not trying to downplay the serious nature of concussions by stating that. Just when you get lawyers involved trying to make things right, you will end up with a bunch of collateral BS that wasn’t expected.

    I have a better idea. The NFL this year issued new procedures to use for concussions. How about letting the new procedures play out and then maybe consider making improvements on them. This site has been B!TCHING about this since the beginning of the year. Get off your soapbox already.

  26. jagerbmb says: Dec 11, 2011 1:03 PM

    Hey… I have a great idea. Why doesn’t every Emergency Room in the United States have a neurologist on station? Because given this sites logic your regular Doctors are not competent enough to diagnose a concussion. Either that or they are crooked.

  27. j0esixpack says: Dec 11, 2011 1:07 PM

    I’m all for things that protect health and welfare, but let’s be honest.

    If the NFL were truly interested in player safety, they wouldn’t put the interests associated with the Las Vegas Line ahead of player welfare.

    I’m sure opposing teams take note of the NFL mandated release of medical information that can help, shall we say, “assist in an effort to send such player to the IR.”

    Keeping that information private would be in the best interest of the player’s health. But any team that tries to put players ahead of Las Vegas sees a hefty penalty from Goodell.

    ’nuff said.

  28. tmc4real says: Dec 11, 2011 2:27 PM

    I thought this site only had problems when the term “concussion-like symptoms” was used. It is not like you cared if they had a concussion, you just did not like the coaches using that term.

    And, what will be the stance of this site when the Browns treat McCoy for his concussion and he ends up with a staph infection?

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