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James Harrison doesn’t think he should be suspended, or fined

William Gay, Cameron Heyward AP

As the football-following world waits for the NFL to inform Steelers linebacker James Harrison of the sanction for his helmet-to-face hit on Browns quarterback Colt McCoy, Harrison doesn’t believe he should be suspended.

Undermining Harrison’s position is that he also believes he shouldn’t be fined.

“I don’t think a suspension is worthy,” Harrison said Monday, per the Associated Press.  “I don’t think it’s worthy of anything, but that’s just my own personal thoughts.”

Harrison believes that the play should result in no punishment because McCoy was running with the ball before Harrison put the crown of his helmet into McCoy’s jaw.  “Well, he took off running with it, and at the last second he, like, chucked and ducked,” Harrison said.  “So, people can see it.”

Yes, they can see it.  And what they can see is a defensive player hitting a quarterback in the head after the quarterback has thrown the ball.  (Besides, McCoy didn’t “chuck and duck.”  If he had, McCoy possibly wouldn’t have been knocked “out and cold.”)

On Friday, the league explained the rules that resulted in Harrison being flagged for roughing the passer, specifically pointing out that a quarterback who throws on the run — which McCoy did — remains protected against blows to the head.

The fact that the NFL hasn’t acknowledged that the officials erred in penalizing Harrison implies that the league will take some action against Harrison.  Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that there’s a sense in Pittsburgh and throughout the league that Harrison will be suspended for a game.

Given that Harrison suggested after being fined $75,000 last year that he would retire because he doesn’t understand the rules, a suspension at a time when Harrison doesn’t thing he should even be fined could push him to the point of no return.

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  1. dmobey says: Dec 12, 2011 9:36 PM

    On another topic, Bathroom Ben doesn’t think “no means no”.

  2. lapsncaps says: Dec 12, 2011 9:37 PM

    A little naive there, Jimmy?

  3. fittytuckin says: Dec 12, 2011 9:38 PM

    In all seriousness, if the league wants to eliminate head shots and big hits, try leather helmets for a while.

  4. pravin68 says: Dec 12, 2011 9:38 PM

    Read Peter King’s MMQB column. It does not go overboard. Pretty much says he should get fined but not suspended.

    Anyone watching Harrison this year knows he changed his way of tackling a lot. You can see him be careful when approaching a QB on many of his hits.

    I don’t mind seeing a fine, but a suspension would be uncalled for. Ray Lewis hit on Hines Ward was more of a launch and Lewis has been fined before too. The only differnece is that Harrison needs to know when to shut up.

  5. isphet71 says: Dec 12, 2011 9:39 PM

    “James Harrison doesn’t think.”

    Fixed.

  6. kayotiicdat says: Dec 12, 2011 9:40 PM

    Well then the case is solved then, no suspension or fine.

  7. silverbuffalo says: Dec 12, 2011 9:40 PM

    New school vs old school – learn the mind set of the NFL big boy.

  8. nogoodell says: Dec 12, 2011 9:40 PM

    and I don’t think Newt should be president

  9. phillyphever says: Dec 12, 2011 9:41 PM

    Hopefully he does get suspended. Harrison:s gotten out of control.

  10. thereisalwaysnextyear says: Dec 12, 2011 9:41 PM

    This guy just doesn’t get it. And THAT proves he should be suspended. Fines just make him angy. Force him to let his teamates down by missing time. It’s not that hard Harrison. NO leading with the head. NO knockout shots. NO helmet to helmet. It’s really not that hard a concept. Unless you’re him. He’s proven he doesn’t care about fines…over and over. Just like a child. Though my children, for example, learn a heck of a lot faster than this idiot.

  11. flaccodelic says: Dec 12, 2011 9:42 PM

    “a suspension at a time when Harrison doesn’t thing he should even be fined could push him to the point of no return.”

    What does that even mean?

  12. packhawk04 says: Dec 12, 2011 9:45 PM

    If he retires because he refuses to follow the rules, buh bye james…

  13. jgo304 says: Dec 12, 2011 9:47 PM

    How bout the Classless Yinzer booing while Colt McCoy is laying on the field in the “arms up” position.

    The city of Yinzburgh puts the @$$ in Class.

    James HGHarrison you are allowed to put your shoulder into players but you are not allowed to LUNGE helmet first into a players helmet.

  14. jessethegreat says: Dec 12, 2011 9:48 PM

    He’s going to sound like Ali in about 40 years after using his head as a battering ram for so long.

    In all seriousness, he seems to have “lowered the intensity” this year. He isn’t flying around the field like he used to do. It is kind of sad for Harrison though, if he played in the 60′s and 70′s he would have been an iconic player. Now he’s just the NFL’s poster boy for how to get yourself fined. I still think he isn’t even 1/10th as dirty a player as Hines Ward. Much rather have a player like Harrison on my team than cheap little b!tch like Ward. Just once I’d love to see James smoke Ward like he does opposing teams players.

  15. pirkmynirk says: Dec 12, 2011 9:48 PM

    this isnt ballet folks, its nfl football. its a violent sport where one human uses his body to hit another human to stop him. how do you guys run? i bet your head is slightly leaned forward when you do. now tell me how easy it is to run full speed at someone else and pull your head back and make a “clean tackle.” helmets are going to hit people. its inevitable. they knew what they signed up for when they got drafted. hard hits are part of the game. roger goodell is turning this into flag football.

  16. cardmagnet says: Dec 12, 2011 9:50 PM

    McCoy chucked and ducked…yeah. He was standing as upright as a politician on national tv.

  17. johnnyshore says: Dec 12, 2011 9:50 PM

    Harrison strikes me as a man of very little intelligence.

  18. pittsburghavenue says: Dec 12, 2011 9:50 PM

    It’s a fast-paced game and it’s too difficult to stop and think before they hit someone. However, Harrison plays under a microscope all the time and he should know better, especially against McCoy who he loves to lay out.

    It shouldn’t have been a roughing the passer penalty because he was running out of the pocket towards the line of scrimmage. Should have been a personal foul for helmet to helmet.

    Will be fined but no suspension.

  19. rmc1995 says: Dec 12, 2011 9:52 PM

    James Harrison changed his hitting style this season because leading with your head doesn’t help with a bad back or recover from a broken eye socket.

    The new standard for suspension is Suh. Suh never had an after the whistle incident nor has he ever hurt anyone. He was suspended for perception and perception is what Harrison will be judged on. Unless of course the NFL is using a double standard for Suh.

  20. redguy12588 says: Dec 12, 2011 9:52 PM

    If asante samuel hasn’t been suspended, then neither should Harrison. You’re just in the mood to suspend people because of Suh.

  21. bernie19kosar says: Dec 12, 2011 9:53 PM

    I can’t wait for this turd to quit. Try making 50 Million Dollars hitting your bus passengers helmet-to-helmet.

  22. bigblions81golions says: Dec 12, 2011 9:53 PM

    You’re a beast Harrison! Keep playing hard.

  23. jpelle82 says: Dec 12, 2011 9:54 PM

    no more face shields…then we will see who the real men are…bet you get rid of the helmet to helmet hits real quick

  24. theglap says: Dec 12, 2011 9:54 PM

    You’re really putting your kneepads to work, eh?

  25. goblue714 says: Dec 12, 2011 9:55 PM

    Listen I don’t nessessarily like some of the rules, but me and all my friends and family seen the hit. We all believe he had enough time to avoid a helmet to helmet hit. It’s different coming in on a RB sometimes those hits are unavoidable, but colt mccoy is not very fast or atheletic and certainly isn’t a physical QB. Point is the hit was avoidable.

  26. thereisalwaysnextyear says: Dec 12, 2011 9:56 PM

    Off topic, but by the way, Bradford has essentially started this game the same as Tebow(tebow did have 6 drops including a huge should-a-been TD) in his 3-16 start. Let’s see if people say that Bradford is just a “good running back”. It’s just amazing how stupid smart football “people” can be.

  27. gpack22 says: Dec 12, 2011 9:56 PM

    If this was one of his first offenses I’d say a fine and leave it at that. But at this point the only way to maybe get this meathead to change is sit him for a game. It’s obvious by now he plays the game with malicious intent.

  28. quadya says: Dec 12, 2011 9:56 PM

    Harrison is such an ass…

  29. sask9999 says: Dec 12, 2011 9:57 PM

    Wild card round in the AFC will be Den/Pitt.
    The ultimate good versus evil. Pittsburgh are rapists, drunk drivers, cheaters, liars, RAPISTS, cheap shop artists, etc.

    Denver are praying for their souls… and will win (and not because GOD is on their side, but Pitt are awful if they arent allowed to cheat)

  30. granadosm says: Dec 12, 2011 9:57 PM

    It’s apparent that fines do not change Harrison’s way of hitting. I bet you start suspending him and he will learn real quick the fundamental way of tackling.

  31. mikehockhurtz says: Dec 12, 2011 9:57 PM

    And Obama thinks he should be re-elected

  32. Andre's Johnson says: Dec 12, 2011 9:58 PM

    I wonder if James Harrison is psychotic. I mean, in the clinical sense. If psychosis is a detachment from reality, Harrison seems to fit the description.

  33. steelersownyou says: Dec 12, 2011 9:59 PM

    Of course he shouldnt be fined! He’s a beast & a big part of why we have #1 defense every year! Shouldn’t be fined because we’re the most physical team in the nfl…. If he’s fined & suspended. We will have to teach alex smith a lesson too!

  34. ziggy26 says: Dec 12, 2011 10:00 PM

    Kam Chancellor led with his helmet while tackling two runners tonight. Suspension coming? He did it twice. In one half.

  35. Deb says: Dec 12, 2011 10:01 PM

    The film shows a running back tossing the ball away as he’s about to get hit. McCoy was a running back on that play. You don’t get to change the rule because the guy who hit him was that big ol’ mean Steeler James Harrison. As others have said, James has moderated his play this year, and what happened last season is irrelevant.

    If Harrison’s suspended, it will be because Goodell is responding to public pressure to act on his rep. Goodell is all about PR, not game film. And considering that James has already generated enough bad press with his interviews, he should keep his mouth shut and pray he only gets a fine.

  36. jgrange08 says: Dec 12, 2011 10:02 PM

    When do you ever see a player coming forward and saying “man I feel like I should be docked 100k and suspended 3 games”

  37. dumbaseinstien says: Dec 12, 2011 10:02 PM

    Ridiculous! Colt McCoy was trying to advance the ball & realized he was going to get hit so he unloaded it at the last second. WAY, WAY, WAY too much protection of offensive players these days!!! Simple fact is that he could have slid, he could have dumped the ball sooner, he could have thrown it sooner, he had a dozen of options but he chose to run toward James Harrison! I call that baiting & Colt deserves to get laid on his Arse!!! Pretty soon, no one will want to play defense because they all get fines left & right. All the so called “records” being set from here on out need an (*) next to for: After NFL made game easy for Offensive players.

  38. holeinone09 says: Dec 12, 2011 10:03 PM

    Harrison should not get suspended for the hit, period of end of story. Fined maybe, because of the way the league determines that these days, but suspended, no way. But if he does, life will go on for him and the Steelers and they will be just fine, don’t worry. I do agree that Harrison should keep his mouth shut on issues like this since he can’t win either way.

    What about the Browns DL who blatantly clubbed Ben in the head? Will the league take action against that as well?

    And what will happen to the Browns organization for letting McCoy back into the game after only 2 plays?

  39. jkhart says: Dec 12, 2011 10:04 PM

    3 years ago this article would have been about hits like this winning him dpoy, today it’s about a fine and suspension. Way to stand your ground.

  40. richm2256 says: Dec 12, 2011 10:04 PM

    Here’s a simple solution for Harrison:

    DON’T hit ANYONE with your HELMET, at ANY time.

    No penalty. No fine. No suspension.

    Maybe one of those idiots on the Steelers coaching staff can explain this simple concept to this doosh.

  41. henrykissingerisgod says: Dec 12, 2011 10:05 PM

    This wont impact the steelers either way. the only tough game left on the schedule is the niner game. He will appeal the suspension and miss the rams game which should be an easy win at heinz field no matter who plays.

    whatever james gets will be worth the fear it will strike in other qbs running around.

    you play the steelers, you pay the steelers …with your soul (or with some of your brain function later in life)

  42. badmude says: Dec 12, 2011 10:07 PM

    James Harrison doesn’t think he should be suspended or fined? OK Colt McCoy was looking like a runner, so that means Harrison is right to lower his head and spear McCoy in his face with the crown of his helmet. Yeah, Harrison is innocent of any wrong doing. the same way there is no one guilty in prison.
    Harrison needs to see a neurologist because his perception of reality is skewed in relation to “Dain Bramage” like symptoms.

  43. caseyanthonymunoz says: Dec 12, 2011 10:07 PM

    It’s okay, Steeler fans are so naive they think Ben didn’t rape two women (at least).

  44. cliffordfranklin says: Dec 12, 2011 10:08 PM

    I’m a Steelers fan, and I think Harrison should be fined for that hit.

    That being said, I want to see this helmet to helmet concern extended beyond quarterbacks and “defense-less receivers”.

    It’s pretty hypocritical that Harrison has one helmet to helmet hit since last season, and there’s talk of suspending him, but there wasn’t even so much as slap on the wrist of the Texans lineman whose helmet to helmet hit broke James Harrison’s orbital bone…

    The worst part is that the majority of the players who’s deaths have brought about these changes are the players in the trenches, where helmet to helmet hits happen every play, and nothing is being done to change it…

  45. earthtopft says: Dec 12, 2011 10:08 PM

    If Harrison wasn’t a good football player he’d probably be on death row insisting that he was framed right now.

  46. metcalfer says: Dec 12, 2011 10:10 PM

    James Harrison just doesn’t get it. A million dollar body and a ten cent brain. He should be suspended a fine does nothing as it show in the past.

  47. Deb says: Dec 12, 2011 10:15 PM

    sask9999 says:

    Wild card round in the AFC will be Den/Pitt.
    The ultimate good versus evil. Pittsburgh are rapists, drunk drivers, cheaters, liars, RAPISTS, cheap shop artists, etc.
    ————————————————
    The only one of our two teams that’s had a player arrested for rape is Denver. Ben’s accuser had a medical exam that showed no sign of sexual intercourse. Your player’s accuser had a baby carrying his DNA. Apparently you’re so busy praying with Timmy, you forgot to watch the news :roll:

  48. dmobey says: Dec 12, 2011 10:19 PM

    Whether on the football field or in the bathroom, Steelers always seem to lead with their head.

  49. cliffordc05 says: Dec 12, 2011 10:19 PM

    If he just can’t understand the rules then he should retire. If he is too stupid to understand the difference between a quarterback who has thrown the ball and a running back then he should retire. I personally think he should retire.

  50. bigblions81golions says: Dec 12, 2011 10:20 PM

    flaccodelic says:Dec 12, 2011 9:42 PM

    “a suspension at a time when Harrison doesn’t thing he should even be fined could push him to the point of no return.”

    What does that even

    It means he would retire. Read the whole paragraph!

  51. eleventyeight says: Dec 12, 2011 10:22 PM

    If Harrison hadn’t let up A LOT on tha hi on McCoy the QB woulda been out like a light for half an hour.

    Harrisson react the bes6t he could but it was the Cleveland team who put him right back in the game when he all loopy.

    Blame the Browns, not Harrison.

  52. dmobey says: Dec 12, 2011 10:23 PM

    I have one word for you…

    Optometrist.

    *******************************
    ziggy26 says:
    Dec 12, 2011 10:00 PM
    Kam Chancellor led with his helmet while tackling two runners tonight. Suspension coming? He did it twice. In one half.

  53. bigbluefan56 says: Dec 12, 2011 10:24 PM

    Im not fan of this guy but this time I have to agree with him. McCoy tucked the ball and ran as a runner and tossed it in the end. These guys have less than a split second to make decision and the media has all week to pick it apart. really not fair….

    P.S.
    If Harrison is getting fined and\or suspended, what happens to the Coaches who let McCoy go back in??? Fair is fair people… I mean Commish!!!

  54. dmobey says: Dec 12, 2011 10:25 PM

    Another innocent Steeler.

    Who would have guessed?

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    Deb says:
    Dec 12, 2011 10:01 PM
    The film shows a running back tossing the ball away as he’s about to get hit. McCoy was a running back on that play. You don’t get to change the rule because the guy who hit him was that big ol’ mean Steeler James Harrison. As others have said, James has moderated his play this year, and what happened last season is irrelevant.

    If Harrison’s suspended, it will be because Goodell is responding to public pressure to act on his rep. Goodell is all about PR, not game film. And considering that James has already generated enough bad press with his interviews, he should keep his mouth shut and pray he only gets a fine.

  55. johnnyshore says: Dec 12, 2011 10:32 PM

    @holeinone09 says “What about the Browns DL who blatantly clubbed Ben in the head? Will the league take action against that as well?”

    What about the Georgia female who Ben blatantly assaulted in the bathroom? Will the justice system take action against that as well?

  56. vikesfansteve says: Dec 12, 2011 10:32 PM

    He’ll never learn. Only thing that will stop him is if he breaks his own neck.

  57. ranksarot says: Dec 12, 2011 10:33 PM

    it was a late hit to. mccoy had already thrown the ball, plenty of time to adjust enough so that didnt happen. He just wanted to hit him, ball or not. Thats a huge fine, minimum. suspension wouldnt surprise me. but i except it will be the last fine-only punishment that harrison gets. even if he doesn’t retire.

  58. habsman says: Dec 12, 2011 10:34 PM

    It’s a Pittsburgh thing:

    First: Defend the illegal hit even in the face of overwhelming evidence.

    Second: When discipline is meted out (as it surely will) be sure to cry, cry, cry……….and then cry some more.

    The team is loaded with cheap shot artists, and women beaters (Harrison).

    Two games!

  59. theravens1 says: Dec 12, 2011 10:35 PM

    Knock out / Sit out (Maybe if we simplify it for him, in terms he can understand).

  60. clayton43 says: Dec 12, 2011 10:38 PM

    Love how all these people can call Harrison names sitting behind a computer…REAL TOUGH. Is one thing to give an opinion about a person or a player…the call is what it is … was questionable… There are people who ACTUALLY played the game who agree with what Harrison is saying. Harrison has not had any probs this year at all until this hit, so for people to say he does this all the time and calling him childish names and then go as far as questioning someone’s intellect ?? Where was outrage over Ray Lewis doing what he did to Ward? Why wasnt PFT writing about that for a week? Talk about classy…Yeah, stay classy PFT readers lol

  61. rubbernilly says: Dec 12, 2011 10:39 PM

    thereisalwaysnextyear says:
    It’s not that hard Harrison. NO leading with the head. NO knockout shots. NO helmet to helmet. It’s really not that hard a concept.

    It’s more complicated than you make it sound. Helmet-to-helmet is the thing here. Harrison didn’t launch. If he gets fined, he’ll get fined for the helmet-to-helmet. As the NFL figures fines these days, he’ll probably get hammered with one. I think it would be a gross injustice if he got suspended for that hit.

    Here is the thing about the rules about a QB trying to advance the ball…

    …imagine that Harrison’s hit had been timed exactly the same way as it was, but that the way the hit was implemented was clearly within the rules (his shoulder hit McCoy in the chest, no helmet-to-helmet). If the timing was exactly the same but the hit were completely legal, would Harrison have been flagged for a late hit? I say no way.

    When a Defensive Lineman hits a QB in the pocket (ie, acting like a passer), he plans on tackling a certain way… with no legs-first contact and no helmet-to-helmet. He is given the benefit of the doubt of… what… a step? a step and a half?… where you figure he can’t necessarily change/stop his planned tackle.

    When a QB turns into a runner, the same Defensive Lineman now has less restrictions placed on him. Helmet-to-helmet goes away, for instance. Now that DL plans to tackle the QB in some particular way. At the last minute, the QB flips the ball. Are you saying that, within that same last step to a step and a half that we gave the DL the benefit of the doubt, that DL should be able to change *how* he’s going to hit the QB? You don’t figure he can change himself to *not* hit the QB; how is he supposed to change *how* he hits the QB?

    So I see only 2 valid ways the NFL can interpret (or change) the rules on this:
    1) ALL helmet-to-helmet goes away, but if you did that you’d probably be calling a personal foul on nearly every run between the tackles, because sometimes it just can’t be avoided. This is not a workable solution.

    2) Rule that once a QB becomes a runner, helmet-to-helmet goes away. If he happens to pass once he has attempted to advance the ball by running, the only personal foul that can be applied is a late hit. That way, you give the Defensive player the window of the same step-to-a-step-and-a-half (whatever it is) to process the fact that the QB has thrown the ball. If a helmet-to-helmet hit occurs during that window, it’s on the QB who — knowing the rules — attempted a pass at the last second (like sliding too late). And if a helmet-to-helmet occurs after that window… well, the penalty yardage is the same (15 for a personal foul), so it doesn’t really matter what you call it… at least the logic is consistent.

    Given all of that, Harrison shouldn’t get fined for his hit (since it wouldn’t have been a late hit). But until the NFL re-interprets its rules… eg, under the current interpretation… Harrison should.

  62. melikefootball says: Dec 12, 2011 10:43 PM

    I know all the Steeler haters and lovers will be out in force but I don’t know what the league expects when a QB takes off running. I get the safety issues but with all the fines and now possible suspensions you will soon see defensive players stand down and completely take away from the game in respect to their wallets. WE have had coaches caught cheating and a coach getting into it with fans no suspensions. Seimore in Oakland swings at a QB and player no suspension but the league goes after the players trying to play the game and what the defense is suppose to do stop the movement of the ball. I can’t wait for the day the league fines or suspends a QB. You saw this week a player stand and watch instead of being engaged to tackle a TE in Washington, saw the same type thing in the Eagle Seahawk game. As a fan I hate seeing where the game is going.

  63. ironmike5532 says: Dec 12, 2011 10:43 PM

    After reading some of the comments its evident that most of the people on here have never played football.

  64. jollyjoker2 says: Dec 12, 2011 10:43 PM

    The detroit player suh should only have been fined. I mean, stomping on someone.. Oh the pain. Guy barely touched him….I would qualify the packers a bunch of whiny pu ssies for pursuing it. Harrison, on the other hand hit a guy in the open field not blocking hardly and aimed for his head full speed and tries to pass it off as part of the game. That’s not part of any normal sportsmanship or game that I ever heard anyone playing. I didn’t maim so its okay. Wow. this guy needs to join the military and kill a few people to blow off some steam.

  65. football4life229 says: Dec 12, 2011 10:48 PM

    he speared him in the face with the crown of his helmet. this is not proper tackling, i’ve seen better tackling in pop warner

  66. vincentbojackson says: Dec 12, 2011 10:48 PM

    Love how PFT has taken on the role of judge, jury and executioner on all things it deems excessive.

    The result of the play was unfortunate, but what I saw was an aggressive play made between the whistles. The game is too fast to penalize a defender when a runner pulls up and dumps the ball at the last second. Get over it and let these guys play football.

  67. johntonioholmes says: Dec 12, 2011 10:54 PM

    Cliffordfranklin

    You nailed it. Go ahead an fine him. But he’s hit less people illegally than Richard Seymour or Suh and suspension wasn’t even an issue for either of them (until Suh stomped on someone).

    The hit was illegal but it was made within the confines of the game. You can’t suspend a player for that.

  68. jgo304 says: Dec 12, 2011 11:05 PM

    HGHarrison could have maned up and hit him in the chest with his shoulder, but he took the KO shot with the crown of his helmet and will pay.

    Like I said on my post that got earased.

    If the player laying on the ground was Cindy Crosby all these yinzers would be up in arms about a cheap shot.

    Hypocrites 95% of them

  69. tobiasjodter says: Dec 12, 2011 11:08 PM

    I just don’t like seeing the NFL doing the media’s bidding. The anti-Steeler media is the one that is focusing the attention on Harrison and the Steelers and driving the agenda.

    We all know there are plenty of other players that could be targeted for the same treatment but it is ignored by the media. Ray Lewis has been fined 3 consecutive years (2009, 2010, 2011) for helmet-to-helmet hits but since no one calling those games is quick to make a story of it no one cares.

    There was a brutal helmet-to-helmet hit in tonight’s game on a defenseless receiver that was not flagged. The announcers didn’t mention it. So it’s a non-story.

    If these situations were treated fairly and equitably I might be on board. But it’s one-sided.

  70. alabamacowboy says: Dec 12, 2011 11:12 PM

    It’s never funny to see a guy get demolished like McCoy did. That being said, when Harrison laid him flat on his back all I could do was go OOOOOHHH (insert four letter word)!!!!

  71. Deb says: Dec 12, 2011 11:24 PM

    ironmike5532 says:

    After reading some of the comments its evident that most of the people on here have never played football.
    ————————————————
    After reading many of the comments, it’s evident most of the people on here have little interest in football. If they did, they’d be talking about Harrison’s hit on McCoy, the rules regarding hits on runners vs. hits on receivers and passers, etc. Instead, they’re making racist rants about Harrison’s IQ and whether he’d be on deathrow if he didn’t play football. And they’re ranting about irrelevant rape accusations that never led to arrest because there was no credible evidence–which they’d know if they’d followed the cases.

    Running a Steelers story is like flipping on the porch lights on a steamy hot night in Fla. You may be hoping for illumination, but you just expose the night crawlers.

  72. cmdv8 says: Dec 12, 2011 11:29 PM

    If you suspend suh you suspend harrison it would only be fair

  73. miamidolphins1 says: Dec 12, 2011 11:30 PM

    i agree with james harrison.

    this is football for crying out loud. dont get me wrong, it was a hard hit, but again, football is supposed to be mans sport, big hits, this crap happens.

    roger goodell is trying to make this league such a wimp league.

    the man should not be suspended, he made a football hit. its part of the game and these players know going into a nfl career that these types of hits will occur. its the risk they take deciding to do this for a living.

    i hope to see mr harrison a week from tonight on the field vs the 49ers. the steelers play defense the way defense should be played.

  74. throwmeopen says: Dec 12, 2011 11:34 PM

    How is it that all the other players can figure it out? Is he just dumb?

  75. comeonnowguys says: Dec 12, 2011 11:40 PM

    Please. Given his history, of course a suspension is warranted.

    But suspend Shurmur first for putting McCoy back in.

  76. otrd13 says: Dec 12, 2011 11:52 PM

    who taught him and the people that agree his hit was clean how to play football? ive never in years of playing football for various coaches and philosophies been taught that that is proper form of a hit. its not tough, its dangerous and a normal player should be ejected and fined for that hit. since he is a repeat offender he should be suspended, period. to say the hit was avoidable is an understatement and if you think otherwise ur just a clowndick who thinks hes tough.

  77. ramal1dw says: Dec 13, 2011 12:04 AM

    Suh stomps an opposing lineman in the arm, in a move that really doesn’t even injure the guy for so much as a play, but because it looks bad he gets suspended for two games and ejected.

    James Harrison completely disregards all rules about safety and has put multiple people– including himself– in danger of ending their careers and ruining their quality of life after football. He flaunts authority and purposely tries to injure people. And there are people saying he doesn’t even deserve a suspension? Are you kidding?

    Harrison needs to realize that not only is he putting others at risk, but he’s putting himself at risk. I don’t want to be the guy on PFT response topics saying, “Told you so!” after he gets carted off the field on a stretcher, but that’s the way this is going. You cannot continue to use your head as a weapon and not have it effect you in the long run.

    For the sake of other players as well as himself, Harrison needs to sit down for at least a game, because nothing else has impacted a change on the way he plays the game.

  78. ahs2 says: Dec 13, 2011 12:21 AM

    If he’s not suspended two games, that is a glaring problem with consistency.

    You can’t compare an infantile stomp that barely grazed a guy’s arm to the hit on McCoy and subsequent concussion, THE hot topic in the NFL. Couple that with Harrison’s penalty/fine history and his stupid comments following said penalties & fines and it would be a total farce to not get at least the same as Suh.

  79. laserw says: Dec 13, 2011 12:50 AM

    Since Harrison is a serial offender and a dirty player, I think he should have the book thrown at him and the Steelers should be punished too.

    Suspend Harrison for the entire 2012 season and the Steelers should have a draft choice removed from next year’s draft. Allow Harrison to play the rest of this season and if he continues to play dirty, then the draft choice the Steeler’s lose next year goes up a round. With any luck, the Steeler’s support of Harrison to this point will eventually cost them a first round draft choice and the loss of their prized pig for an entire season without pay.

  80. ironmike5532 says: Dec 13, 2011 12:55 AM

    Everyone whose not supporting Harrison, would be if he was on their team. Steeler fans love this guy because plays tough every snap. This helmet to helmet nonsence is out of control. Harrison is doing what he is paid to do. Play fast and hit ppl. This whole thing started because the nfl forsees the inevitable class action lawsuit that will eventually happen, because the nfl avoided this subject for years. In my opinion, if u dont want to get hit play tennis.

  81. wags7121 says: Dec 13, 2011 12:58 AM

    Why doesn’t he just stop leading with his head? Then this wouldn’t be an issue. Harrisson is an idiot looking to hurt people, I hope he jams his neck next time he leads with his head, and spends some time in a wheelchair, yea I went there

  82. xavier46 says: Dec 13, 2011 1:21 AM

    caseyanthonymunoz says:Dec 12, 2011 10:07 PM

    It’s okay, Steeler fans are so naive they think Ben didn’t rape two women (at least).

    *******************************************
    Funny, the justice system agrees. Those crazy Steeler fans…

  83. fancyleague says: Dec 13, 2011 1:56 AM

    They should suspend Colt McCoy for running right at James Harrison. He obviously doesn’t have a brain, so how can it get injured?

  84. young2rice says: Dec 13, 2011 3:31 AM

    That’s funny because I don’t think I should have gotten that speeding ticket 6 months ago when I was going 80 in a 65… I’m sure the judge will agree with me, right James?

  85. hallcyon says: Dec 13, 2011 3:41 AM

    Sometimes helmet to helmet to helmet hits are unavoidable. McCoy was outside the pocket, and the helmet to helmet hit was not intentional. Is the message to be sent anyone who produces a hard legal hit if it results in an injury will be fined and/or suspended anyway? Define the rules clearly, follow them by the book and let the players play, which means hitting and tackling.

    However for all those whining about the health of McCoy, need to review how the NFL treats head injuries. The Browns failed to investigate his head injury after the play. It was obvious he had been hit, yet the staff did not do their duty.

    Their is another problem here too. The NFL, management, coaching and medical staffs, and including players do not take head injuries seriously. A neurologist needs to be on the sidelines to evaluate a players health. There is an easy solution to this problem. Instead of just blaming players for playing rough in the game of football, which is rough (DUH!), have medical staff to assist those in need. But the NFL doesn’t and you dopes argue if a players doing his job should be fined and/or banned. If that’s the level of hypocrisy, then why not make it the National Flag Football League and we can blissfully ignore modern medical science.

  86. houseofpain22 says: Dec 13, 2011 5:16 AM

    This is tipical of Harrison. He is a repeat if not habitual offender. Suspend him.

  87. jessethegreat says: Dec 13, 2011 5:18 AM

    clayton43 says:
    Dec 12, 2011 10:38 PM
    Love how all these people can call Harrison names sitting behind a computer…REAL TOUGH. Is one thing to give an opinion about a person or a player…the call is what it is … was questionable… There are people who ACTUALLY played the game who agree with what Harrison is saying. Harrison has not had any probs this year at all until this hit, so for people to say he does this all the time and calling him childish names and then go as far as questioning someone’s intellect ?? Where was outrage over Ray Lewis doing what he did to Ward? Why wasnt PFT writing about that for a week? Talk about classy…Yeah, stay classy PFT readers lol
    ——————————————————–
    I understand what your saying, and generally agree that this time it’s Harrison’s reputation that is getting him all the negative backlash and not the play specifically, but the big point you’re missing is everyone outside of Pittsburgh fans HATE Hines Ward. Most people respect Ray Lewis place near the top of the all time greats to play linebacker in the NFL.

    I think Harrison’s reached the point in his career where people are going to overanalize any questionable tackle or hit he issues. It sucks for him because he is a force on defense, but that does tend to happen after repeated questionable tackles.

  88. nickynick04 says: Dec 13, 2011 5:56 AM

    Where was Harrision in the Super Bowl last year ?
    The Packer’s line……as in the Suh case can handle so called bad boys,,,because they are the of the bad boy cloth themselves…just disciplined

  89. drgreenstreak says: Dec 13, 2011 6:46 AM

    Reading “T.O. Learns To Share” did no good for little Jimmy H. He has held a grudge against Hiney Wart for being a more cowardly hitter than even he, BBB Harrison could fashion for his own game. He has made far too much money for a guy with very limited brain cell activity. How does this crap happen? I’m pissed and never going to a Steeler game again……. or even my first one.

  90. drgreenstreak says: Dec 13, 2011 6:48 AM

    remaining season suspension, special tutor for training camp and 125,000 bucks. C Ya!

  91. jc1958cool says: Dec 13, 2011 7:26 AM

    he lead with the crown of his helmet! the guy is an idiot and anyone who defends him is TOO !!

  92. spunjmunke says: Dec 13, 2011 7:44 AM

    To all you Steelers fans who are whining about how tough you are, or how violent this game is, I suggest you stop and think for a few minutes. Players like Harrison and Suh aren’t doing anyone, including the team and the fans, any favors by constantly allowing their testosterone factories to go into overdrive any time they see a player in the other uniform. They have both been warned repeatedly about their play, and they both repeatedly go out and Hulk up at the wrong time. So what’s the answer? Easy, you treat them like the children they are.
    Anyone with a child knows that arbitrarily punishing behavior without a motivating variable will not deter the behavior. You need to find the economic price of the motivation. With some kids you can yell till you’re blue in the face, take away the allowance, or send them to their room, but what lesson are you teaching? Nothing… You need to find the motivating factor. It’s evident that money is not an economic motivator for these meatheads because they make so much of it. So what is it that will really hammer home the point? If winning is what they really want, then eliminate their playing time. Then, if the team loses because of their suspension, they have to deal with the fall-out from their teammates. Their pride will be hurt and their ego bruised. Their actions will be noticed by the fanbase and the team as unnecessary and punishable, therefore the behavior should be altered. So instead of writing a check and pretending it never happened, an alternative method needs to be explored, because it’s statistically proven that this guy simply will not get the hint.

    On a side note, Browns fans: Quit whining about the hit. Yes it was excessive and borderline blatant but it wasn’t the reason you lost. Any Browns fan should be down right pi$$3d off at the organization for allowing this charade of a team to continue operating the way it does. The management of the team is absent, the coach is so in over his head he can’t see daylight, and the ownership couldn’t care less because it wasn’t his toy to begin with. If you really want to see change in this team, find the economic price of their attention, and this one is simple to identify. STOP PAYING TO SEE THEIR CR@PPY PRODUCT! Demand that your voice be heard by saving your money. Calling talk shows means nothing if you go back a week later. The Factory of Sadness is real and the joke is on the fans. They don’t care about you as long as that stadium is full 10 times a year.

  93. quittsburghstoolers says: Dec 13, 2011 7:46 AM

    “I don’t think a suspension is worthy,” Harrison said Monday, per the Associated Press. “I don’t think it’s worthy of anything, but that’s just my own personal thoughts.”

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    He also can’t believe it’s not butter…

  94. imopen7 says: Dec 13, 2011 7:48 AM

    Haters be scaaaarreeeeddd! If he was on their team, they would love James’ play! But since James knows that the Steelers are the hardest hitting, toughest playin group of men in the NFL, he chooses to play here. Simple….fact…..done. Deep inside, all of you love it. You watch it, you write about it…..you simply love it. All of you should be sending James a Xmas card expressing your thanks. Thanks to James for giving you the privelage of watching real men play…real men in the Steel City.

  95. jadamich says: Dec 13, 2011 7:49 AM

    If you can’t see what you’re hitting, it’s not okay. He lowered his head and lead with the crown of the helmet. That hit has been illegal at all levels of tackle football and it makes no difference what position the hit occurred against. If Harrison cannot comprehend that leading with the helmet has serious repercussions on the player being tackled as well as himself then the league needs to step in because it is painfully obvious his team is unwilling to discipline him. The sad part of this issue is that the NFL is only now starting to throw the flag when this situation occurs. C’est la vie.

  96. steelers1981 says: Dec 13, 2011 7:50 AM

    sask9999 says:
    Dec 12, 2011 9:57 PM
    Denver are praying for their souls… and will win (and not because GOD is on their side, but Pitt are awful if they arent allowed to cheat)
    ___________________________________

    Steelers would win that game by at least 2 TD’s. In the words of Mitt Romney, “Wanna bet…”

  97. steelers1981 says: Dec 13, 2011 7:53 AM

    otrd13 says:
    Dec 12, 2011 11:52 PM
    who taught him and the people that agree his hit was clean how to play football? ive never in years of playing football for various coaches and philosophies been taught that that is proper form of a hit. its not tough, its dangerous and a normal player should be ejected and fined for that hit. since he is a repeat offender he should be suspended, period. to say the hit was avoidable is an understatement and if you think otherwise ur just a clowndick who thinks hes tough.

    Who taught you how to “write”?

  98. rollinghillsgolfer says: Dec 13, 2011 7:57 AM

    someone is going to end up putting this cat out of the game forever

  99. toegoat says: Dec 13, 2011 7:57 AM

    I love it how ppl say “u must’ve never played football before”….
    POP warner and hs doesn’t count. Unless u have played professionally, then u really have NO idea what’s like on that field on sundays.

  100. jnbnet says: Dec 13, 2011 7:59 AM

    It’s so easy, even Harrison can do it

  101. toegoat says: Dec 13, 2011 8:06 AM

    You know your city’s team is good when ppl from all over the country are in a post about your team leaving comments about how they perform off the field so to speak. We are talking about football ON the field and @ 10-3 we are better than the majority of teams. Yea so Ben may be, correction IS an ahole off the field (though he was never charged with rape like a lot of ppl think) and James says dumb stuff ALL the time but really, I wouldn’t rather have anyone else in the black n gold. Go Steelers!

  102. blackqbwhiterb says: Dec 13, 2011 8:13 AM

    Go run at any solid object. Right before impact you dip your head down. It’s an instinct to protect your face, it’s not an intent to hurt. Can’t help it. Quit being crybabies. He didn’t intend to hurt McCoy. He was bracing for impact, like anybody would.

  103. otis52gsh says: Dec 13, 2011 8:19 AM

    Why shouldn’t he be. He is not understanding the rules. Sit him down. If he retires, oh well.

  104. toegoat says: Dec 13, 2011 8:24 AM

    jadamich December 13, 2011, 7:49 AM EST

    If you can’t see what you’re hitting, it’s not okay. He lowered his head and lead with the crown of the helmet. That hit has been illegal at all levels of tackle football and it makes no difference what position the hit occurred against.
    ________________________________________________________________
    U need a rule book because this couldn’t be more wrong. Obviously u didn’t even watch the game or would have seen Gocong LAUNCH head first @ mendenhall and hit him square in the face no flag no fine because he was a runner…. So yes u are allowed to lead with ur head as long as u don’t launch and the player isn’t defenseless I.e. reciever making a catch/QB in the pocket THROWING…. GOT IT NOW?

  105. elduderino13 says: Dec 13, 2011 8:33 AM

    I’d expect that a smart defender (and a smart team) would look at the rules as written regarding when a QB is a runner and when a QB is a passer and say that you shouldn’t lead with your helmet until after the QB is absolutely no longer a passer – meaning after the QB passes the line of scrimmage.

    Besides, I always thought that defenders were taught to keep their head up when tackling, and not put their head down.

  106. deadmanwalking47 says: Dec 13, 2011 8:40 AM

    he should be fined and suspended because he is a frequent offender.just like suh was,these guys need to be taught a lesson that dirty play and cheap shots over and over again,are never allowed! he has not changed his ways,he came out and said that,until he gets the message,he needs to be fined and suspended,maybe then he’ll grow up and not be a dirty player!

  107. gmen1987 says: Dec 13, 2011 8:47 AM

    Who cares what this player with the criminal element (we apparently can’t use a four letter word that begins with “th” here) thinks. Suspend his ass, Commissioner Goodell.

  108. dawhorsefeathers says: Dec 13, 2011 8:58 AM

    On what planet is Ray’s hit on Hines worse than Harrison’s hit on McCoy?

  109. holeinone09 says: Dec 13, 2011 9:10 AM

    @johnnyshore says:
    Dec 12, 2011 10:32 PM
    @holeinone09 says “What about the Browns DL who blatantly clubbed Ben in the head? Will the league take action against that as well?”

    What about the Georgia female who Ben blatantly assaulted in the bathroom? Will the justice system take action against that as well?

    * * * * * *

    Hey johnny, I see you don’t let facts get in the way of your opinion. After the investigation, no charges pressed, so NO, the justice system took no action since there was NONE TO TAKE related to DTF (do you know what that means?). And what does that have to do with this story about so-called illegal hits on players?? Please stay in touch with reality when you want to make an analogy, thanks.

  110. Steeler's Will says: Dec 13, 2011 9:11 AM

    Dang! It’s a sea of soapboxes in here.

    Anyways, it was obviously a bad hit. I “assume” it wouldn’t have been flagged if it wasn’t (congrats on getting the call right finally). But the jokesters here are inventing malicious intent based on multiple fines from the previous year, and they’re doing that for the sole purpose of trolling. If any of them can name all of the hits for which JH was fined last year, I’ll admit you might either be somewhat of an authority on the matter, or at the very least a stalker. Either way, you can at least voice an opinion on it. The rest of you are trolls who are simply piling on. Y’all should really just brush up on your excuses.

    Fine-worthy, but not Suhspension worthy imho.

  111. dexterismyhero says: Dec 13, 2011 9:31 AM

    @impoten77 says:Dec 13, 2011 7:48 AM

    Haters be scaaaarreeeeddd! If he was on their team, they would love James’ play! But since James knows that the Steelers are the hardest hitting, toughest playin group of men in the NFL, he chooses to play here. Simple….fact…..done. Deep inside, all of you love it. You watch it, you write about it…..you simply love it. All of you should be sending James a Xmas card expressing your thanks. Thanks to James for giving you the privelage of watching real men play…real men in the Steel City.
    ==================================
    Nice post idiot……nobody is scared of your team…frankly the way he plays is an embarassment to football…he leads with his helmet and his arms don’t even come close to McCoy before he hits him in the face……You and the rest of your fans that think otherwise are nothing but a bunch of tools….

  112. richie500 says: Dec 13, 2011 9:31 AM

    The only thing James does is hit “to Hard” for the NFL.
    If you think he hits to hard your a liberal.

  113. jeb68 says: Dec 13, 2011 9:40 AM

    The real issue here is that he refuses to abide by the new rules. While all other players have changed their way of tackling to be within the rules, Harrison continues to show that he will not abide by the new rules by leading with his helmet every time. Fines have not done any good in making him realize his wrongs so the league needs to resort to a harsher penalty – ie: 3 game suspension.

  114. dickroy says: Dec 13, 2011 9:44 AM

    Everyone of you Pittsburgh haters, spouting off about non football issues, would love to have Harrison on your team.
    When McCoy took off running he became a running back, regardless if he flipped the ball away.
    All of this ranting is just plain jealousy of our teams tradition and record of winning.

  115. otrd13 says: Dec 13, 2011 10:20 AM

    lol went*

  116. bikerhal says: Dec 13, 2011 10:32 AM

    Helmets are made to protect the player wearing it, not to be used as a weapon or battering ram to pelay (pee-lay) the ball carrier or opposing team member.

  117. dexterismyhero says: Dec 13, 2011 10:38 AM

    @dickroy says:Dec 13, 2011 9:44 AM

    Everyone of you Pittsburgh haters, spouting off about non football issues, would love to have Harrison on your team.
    When McCoy took off running he became a running back, regardless if he flipped the ball away.
    All of this ranting is just plain jealousy of our teams tradition and record of winning.
    ==================================
    So people who have an opinion are just “haters”? I would say it is because of the way your fans constantly stand behind a player who doesn’t abide by the rules.

  118. nejerseygirl says: Dec 13, 2011 10:59 AM

    Suspend him. Why is it that everyone in the league knows how to tackle except this guy? And then he whines about a fine, and threatens retire? Good riddance, I say.

    If the Patriots can throw random people into defensive positions, and they can learn how to tackle after playing one game, why is it that Harrison hasn’t figured it out?

    If McCoy had ducked, Harrison might have had a leg to stand on.. but McCoy was just about as straight up as anyone could possibly be while running, and Harrison still claims he ducked. Ridiculous.

    The sad thing is, it will most likely be Harrison who one day ends up with persistent headaches/depression/in a wheelchair.. or worse.

  119. Raider-in-PA says: Dec 13, 2011 11:00 AM

    Of course he wouldnt… Thats why he continues to lead with his head, which some of the semi-pros on here think is the correct way to hit someone…

  120. imopen7 says: Dec 13, 2011 11:27 AM

    @dexterismyzero…

    hate hate hate. probably a 9er’s fan breathing a sigh of relief that your “qb” may be spared Monday Night…idiot.

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