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Tim Tebow’s pastor attributes wins to “God’s favor”

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With the Broncos winning six straight games and seven of eight under the leadership of Tim Tebow, one of Tebow’s pastors in Colorado has spoken to TMZ about the situation.

Let’s repeat that.  A Colorado pastor has spoken to TMZ about Tim Tebow.

(Maybe that should be the headline.)

It’s not luck,” Wayne Hanson of Summit Church in Colorado told TMZ.  “Luck isn’t winning 6 games in a row.  It’s favor.  God’s favor.”

So God favors Aaron Rodgers three times as much?  After all, the Packers have now won 19 in a row.

Hanson also attributes the victories to Tebow’s faith.  Asked if Tebow would be playing so well if he weren’t a believer, Hanson said, “Of course not.”

The notion that God’s favor becomes a factor in sporting events implies that God favors those who win and ignores those who lose.  And that’s why I’m always reluctant to suggest that winning and losing has any correlation to the will of God.  There are good men, and bad men, on every team.  Believers and non-believers.  Saints and sinners.

But it remains God prerogative to act in whatever manner He chooses.  Some would regard the mere fact that the issue has received so much attention as a sign that God is nudging Tebow toward a high degree of success as a way of getting more of us talking about God and whether and to what extent there may be a little Angels in the Outfield dynamic going on in Denver.

Like the Madden curse, at some point the buzz can influence behavior.  Which possibly helps the Broncos win more games by causing Denver’s opponents to assume that some master plan ultimately will overcome whatever skills and talents they otherwise bring to the field of play.

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173 Responses to “Tim Tebow’s pastor attributes wins to “God’s favor””
  1. p4ever says: Dec 12, 2011 2:47 PM

    Let me see… Players on the opposite team don’t believe in god, so they don’t get favors. It’s so sad, to trivialize God this way.

  2. fcs34 says: Dec 12, 2011 2:47 PM

    After watching the game yesterday from begining to end I would have to agree: God hates Marion Barber

  3. broncobeta says: Dec 12, 2011 2:47 PM

    As a christian I’m saying “Why? Why did you just have to make things look worse for him?”

    I believe God works in many ways, but I’m not sure about something as trivial as a football game.

  4. mgborgli says: Dec 12, 2011 2:48 PM

    Wow just wow

  5. bbrophy1 says: Dec 12, 2011 2:48 PM

    poor Marion Barber with all that fire and brimstone in his future

  6. captainwisdom8888 says: Dec 12, 2011 2:48 PM

    …and when blessed Timmy doth sin, a monstrous cloud of a media-storm shall block out the sun and consume the Earth in it’s entirety.

  7. smackingfools says: Dec 12, 2011 2:48 PM

    Come on man, you’re making Christians look bad. God could care less who wins in sporting events. Tebow will have his ups and downs in the NFL just like any other player.

  8. panthers34 says: Dec 12, 2011 2:49 PM

    Time to find a new church Tim. Guy should never have been talking to TMZ. Next he probably wants Tim to buy him a bentley.

  9. cjspiller12 says: Dec 12, 2011 2:49 PM

    I’m so sick of Tebow stories. The story I’m waiting for is when it comes out that Tebow is a Peter Puffer. Still say he will never be a quality starting QB in the NFL…right now it’s all a gimmick. Oh yeah, Tebow didn’t win that game yesterday. Barber lost it, plain and simple.

  10. Confucius says: Dec 12, 2011 2:49 PM

    The saint, Tebow, will eventually meet the sinner, Harrison. Can’t wait!

  11. Mitch Cumstein says: Dec 12, 2011 2:49 PM

    Oh, give me an f-ng break.

  12. ownbay says: Dec 12, 2011 2:49 PM

    Mike Singletary wore a large wooden cross around his neck when he coached the niners and God never did him no favors.

  13. maxvv says: Dec 12, 2011 2:50 PM

    I can’t pretend to know how God works, but I’m really hoping this guy is wrong.

    That Tebow never argues his success is the literal action of God is probably my favorite thing about him.

  14. dericivy says: Dec 12, 2011 2:50 PM

    If only those poor starving children in third-world countries played football, then maybe they would survive with “God’s favor”.

  15. thegonz13 says: Dec 12, 2011 2:50 PM

    Of course, Matt Prater had nothing to do with Sunday’s win…

  16. blackbeardk says: Dec 12, 2011 2:50 PM

    I don’t think it can be attributed to “God’s Favor” anymore…Tebow has sold his soul to the devil…

  17. dohpey28 says: Dec 12, 2011 2:50 PM

    I am sure God had nothing better to do and reached down and made Marion Barber go out of bounds, and then fumble in OT.

  18. damko12 says: Dec 12, 2011 2:51 PM

    Omg really again.. Can’t wait for the patriots to shut em up for at least a week.

  19. bengalsown says: Dec 12, 2011 2:51 PM

    And the Tim Tebow story has now officially spiraled out of control.

  20. firethorn1001 says: Dec 12, 2011 2:51 PM

    If that is true, what in the world did the Colts do to piss off God.

  21. kenhawk says: Dec 12, 2011 2:51 PM

    And here we go.

    Pastor Hanson, I’m guessing there are some equally dedicated religious individuals on some of the teams the Broncos have defeated this season.

    Now what?

  22. RexCanCoach says: Dec 12, 2011 2:51 PM

    Tiki goes to church, yet gets no respect. Tiki is flabbergasted.

  23. rpiotr01 says: Dec 12, 2011 2:52 PM

    “Luck isn’t winning 6 games in a row. ”

    That’s what I’m saying, no way the Colts should get rid of Peyton!

  24. rr2000k says: Dec 12, 2011 2:52 PM

    I think God has better things to do

  25. stoffelmania says: Dec 12, 2011 2:52 PM

    Maybe these 2012 end of the world guys are on to something.

  26. oldspice1010 says: Dec 12, 2011 2:53 PM

    This is petty. How does the pastor know? Why is God not helping people in Africa dying? No problems with Tebow doing well, btw…..

  27. jasku880 says: Dec 12, 2011 2:53 PM

    his pastor…? now i think its over doing it…

  28. daryllh says: Dec 12, 2011 2:53 PM

    “Jesus! is this pastor clueless”

    -God’s reaction when asked to respond.

  29. packfan1 says: Dec 12, 2011 2:53 PM

    Packers have won 19 in a row actually..

  30. motorcitykitties says: Dec 12, 2011 2:54 PM

    The message is clear: believe what Tebow believes in and you will have favor. Absolutely rediculous, no thanks.

  31. gln9213 says: Dec 12, 2011 2:54 PM

    For Heaven sakes…..this pastor or so-called pastor is, well wrong and probably nuts too…..

  32. mavajo says: Dec 12, 2011 2:55 PM

    And this is why some of us can’t stand Tebow. His over-the-top showiness of his faith (which is condemned in the Bible, by the way — ironic) ignites ridiculousness like this.

    There’s a lot of things God cares about. The Denver Broncos W/L record isn’t one of them. And to suggest that God is using Tebow as an avenue to get more people to talk about Him (God) is a joke as well. When God needed to get his message to mankind, he sent Jesus to Earth — and Jesus preached directly to people. Jesus didn’t join the local athletics club to become a big star and make throw-away comments about giving all glory to God.

    Tebow makes a mockery of what he supposedly stands for, and I’m getting tired of it.

  33. shaner329 says: Dec 12, 2011 2:55 PM

    A pastor believes something that happened is an act of God?

    Who would have thought

  34. 3menandablog says: Dec 12, 2011 2:56 PM

    Between Tebowmania and Rick Perry, it’s getting real hard to believe in God.

  35. nflofficeadmin says: Dec 12, 2011 2:56 PM

    YES!!!!!

  36. broncotis3000 says: Dec 12, 2011 2:57 PM

    Why is this a news story? What will we be talking about when the Patriots fall next week?

  37. brutus9448 says: Dec 12, 2011 2:58 PM

    Wow denver must be so blessed that they get to have the second coming of jesus play footbal in their town every week. Its sooooo important to humanity for denver to win. LOL

  38. blizzard01 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:00 PM

    Every time Prater hits a 50+ yd field goal an angel gets its wings.

  39. sippindasyzurp says: Dec 12, 2011 3:01 PM

    Keep talking about Tebow cause it takes the attention off the Packers.

  40. slatetundra07 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:02 PM

    God himself has officially jumped on the Tebow bandwagon.

  41. jimr10 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:03 PM

    i could hardly wait to read all the negative comments…i was not disappointed..

  42. gamermwm says: Dec 12, 2011 3:04 PM

    Where will you always find God?

    With the lowly.

    And I wouldn’t say He has given the once lowly Denver Broncos an unfair advantage…just a push back towards competitiveness for His glory…to draw people to Himself to be saved

    He’s given them a reason to believe…a catalyst in the form of Tim Tebow

    There will be an end to the magic. There always is. But sometimes the purpose is the journey and what you realize along the way

  43. rodgers419 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:04 PM

    It has to be God. It sure isn’t his skill as a quarterback.

  44. milkmandanimal says: Dec 12, 2011 3:04 PM

    Yea, and Marion Barber hath sinned in the eyes of God, so shalt he errantly run out of bounds, and then fumble the ball. Most fortunate is Matt of Prater, that his kicks might fly straight into the heart of God and deliver thy Tebow into the hands of victory.

  45. Kya_Tropic_Fan says: Dec 12, 2011 3:05 PM

    I guess that settles “Spygate”. Video taping clearly had no affect on the outcome of games. It is simply “God’s favor”. Thanks Wayne.

    Mr Goodell, Bill Belcihcik on line 2, he wants his $250,000 and 1 First Round Draft pick back…

    oh and a Mr Kraft on line 3, he wants half a million dollars…

  46. armchairqb says: Dec 12, 2011 3:06 PM

    Is God so powerful that he can make a rock so big that even Tebow can’t lift it?

    God spelled backwards is Tebow. Just try it and see.

  47. tacoslinger619 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:06 PM

    We build em up to just break them down…….Tebowmania is awesome right now, but when reality kicks in and the franchise is set back ten yrs because the option, who will they blame…..Cant Wait

  48. blizzard01 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:07 PM

    God hates my fantasy team, I know that for sure.

  49. dickroy says: Dec 12, 2011 3:07 PM

    Has anyone acually heard Tim Tebow claim that God is favoring him?

  50. Patskrieg dot com says: Dec 12, 2011 3:07 PM

    I hope the good pastor doesn’t mind me borrowing his logic for a second:

    If Lawrence Taylor was smoking crack and banging prostitutes before Super Bowl XXV then God must either love drugs and fornication

    Or…

    Scott Norwood worships the devil.

  51. schmitty2 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:08 PM

    Just imagine what the pastor would say if someone in his congregation made a miraculous recovery from an illness

  52. babar61 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:09 PM

    I guess the packers believe in a more powerful god then…

  53. cleverbob says: Dec 12, 2011 3:09 PM

    thegonz13 says:
    Dec 12, 2011 2:50 PM

    Of course, Matt Prater had nothing to do with Sunday’s win…
    =====================================

    Who’s that?

  54. zbigern says: Dec 12, 2011 3:10 PM

    God Loves Peyton Manning more than Tebow then. Next, God loves Tom Brady. God obviously loves Dennis Rodman lots too with all his rings…Also God HATES the Colts this year and HATED the Lions a couple years back.

  55. knowerofallthings says: Dec 12, 2011 3:10 PM

    does god play the point spread?

  56. jimmysee says: Dec 12, 2011 3:10 PM

    I thought it was the meek who would inherit the earth.

    The Colts qualify here for God’s favor.

  57. rdrs68 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:11 PM

    OH for christsake give it a rest already.

  58. slippyal2 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:11 PM

    Well, lets see what God and Tebow can do against Brady & Gronkowski

  59. neilpountney says: Dec 12, 2011 3:12 PM

    I feel so much better today knowing God is a fan of the Patriots, Steelers and Colts!!!

  60. klunge says: Dec 12, 2011 3:13 PM

    Tim must have forgot to say his prayers the day the Lions came to town…

  61. stellarperformance says: Dec 12, 2011 3:14 PM

    Which team will dare to challenge the Will of God and beat this guy?

  62. KIR says: Dec 12, 2011 3:15 PM

    Oh well, the moderator police stops another comment that is not discriminatory and has no profanity. I can honestly say i have never seen a site like this.

  63. crindal3000 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:15 PM

    so when they lose we know that God had better things to do that day.

  64. bullcharger says: Dec 12, 2011 3:15 PM

    When Tebow loses 6 in a row the same guy will say God is testing Tebow’s faith.

  65. realitypolice says: Dec 12, 2011 3:17 PM

    Now I understand why Tebow always sucks until the fourth quarter starts.

    Sunday is a fairly busy day for God. It’s all he can do to get in front of the TV before 3:30pm. 1pm is simply out of the question.

  66. realitypolice says: Dec 12, 2011 3:18 PM

    Isn’t Lovie Smith supposed to be super religious as well?

    That God fella, always playing favorites and whatnot.

  67. wetpaperbag3 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:18 PM

    And THIS is why Tebow gets criticized based on his religious convictions.

    For weeks on end, pundits, writers, and common folk have blasted back at those who criticize Tebow’s prayer kneel or criticized Tebow for his religious statements whenever he’s interviewed or asked about aspects of the game. Every time, those pundits would tell everyone that it was unfair to criticize his religion or his religious stance.

    However, after every win, his religion is credited. Pastors are now saying that it’s God’s will to have Tebow and the Broncos win a football game?

    God…who would have created the planets in our solar system. The sun, other stars, galaxies, quasars, magentars, black holes, gamma ray bursts, etc…puts all that aside to cheer for ONE human being to win a football game played in only TWO countries, on a tiny rock ball called Earth located in a tiny corner of an average sized galaxy, in tiny corner of the Virgo Super Cluster, which only takes up the smallest degree of the entire universe?

    Wow.

  68. cowhawkfan says: Dec 12, 2011 3:19 PM

    I’ve become a fan of Tebows. But this pastor is an idiot. Time to move to a new Church Timmy!!

  69. boblavoie says: Dec 12, 2011 3:19 PM

    God may be doing him a favor but the line says the Patriots are the favorite! Take the Pats no WHAT the line is.
    Faith is powerful thing but “God” has better things to do on a Sunday – like watch New England to see if their defense improves.

  70. tundey says: Dec 12, 2011 3:20 PM

    So you are saying a pastor (i.e. a guy who believes Jesus Christ is not only the savior of the world but that he was born by a virgin at a time there was no IVF) attributes Tebow’s success to God? Why is that news? What else is he supposed to say, attribute it to the Devil? To coincidence? If you asked a NFL coach about a player’s success, won’t he attribute it to the endless practices?

  71. hardpeaches says: Dec 12, 2011 3:21 PM

    Statements like these are why religion gets a bad reputation. The more important role of religion, as I’m sure anyone who studies or follows a religious faith and/or contemplative science, is to reinforce the positive qualities within ourselves.

    In fact, most religions would say learning something from a difficult situation (i.e. losing) and then applying that knowledge is paramount to anything else. This Tebow stuff will hit a tipping point if he and his circle keep pushing.

    By the way, I was born Jewish, practice Buddhism and 100% believe in Jesus. It’s all the same. Love one another.

  72. waxdaclam says: Dec 12, 2011 3:22 PM

    I’m just waiting for Tebow to levitate over the defensive line of an upcoming opponent…

  73. geniusesq says: Dec 12, 2011 3:22 PM

    This Pastor is not doing Tebow any favors. Just shut up. I like Tebow, and what he represents. He wins in spite of criticism and is a good guy.

    Leave the propaganda out of it.

  74. dcsween says: Dec 12, 2011 3:22 PM

    Vegas (specifically bodog) has God beating Belichek by 7 … which means Vegas is seriously confused by Belichek playing himself at home, or its really thinks the Broncos D has something special dialed up for Brady. The Skins game was a fluke in terms of the matchup because the Skins O could stay on the field (keeping Brady off) and God Jr. II is predictably for 3 and out for three and half quarters before he swaps out the miracle ball.

  75. Passionburnswithin says: Dec 12, 2011 3:22 PM

    What the pastor is saying is that he believes that because of Tim’s personal commitment to honor God that God is blessing him individually. We must understand that if we believe God has a plan for our lives that He wants us to follow then we must also believe that if we are obedient we will reap the rewards of that obedience. Does that mean that God despises other believers on other teams. No of course not but what it does mean is that at this moment through this avenue God is choosing to allow Tebow the spotlight. I will not attempt to understand why this moment or avenue has been chosen but I know God is involved because he cares about each person and the totality of their existence. Even if that existence includes a lot of football. Also remember that winning isn’t always good and losing isn’t always bad for the individual. God uses those things to teach and grow us and accomplish His purpose. Again this isn’t for me to try to understand but to see through.

  76. earthtopft says: Dec 12, 2011 3:23 PM

    While the bookies deny the supernatural influence, the line on the Bronco game did move dramatically in Denver’s favor after the word came down.

  77. shieldsisland37 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:24 PM

    Many Catholic’s pray to Marry. Not as a deity, but so that she will pray for them. Because she is so close to god. I pray to Tebow, so that he prays for me.

  78. geniusesq says: Dec 12, 2011 3:24 PM

    So does God favor Floyd Mayweather too? He’s undefeated.

  79. horsemeat47 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:25 PM

    this pastor is just another example of a man creating God in his own image – if your pastor says stuff like this you should run away from him.

  80. smokingconch says: Dec 12, 2011 3:26 PM

    This is getting ridiculous. By this logic the 2011 Detroit Lions are more powerful than God since they’re the only team to beat Tebow.

    Can’t we just give credit to an excellent defense, the best defensive rookie in football this year, a field goal kicker nailing everything you ask him to, and Tebow and the offense stepping up huge in the clutch?

    Either that or even the big guy upstairs would like to avoid a Ndamakong Stomp.

  81. jmsincla says: Dec 12, 2011 3:27 PM

    For the record, I have no problem with Tim Tebow. I do have a problem with the cult like way people follow him and stupidity similar to what this pastor spewed.

    I’m also not a fan of the fact that Marion Barber, Matt Prater, and the Bears Prevent D decided the outcome of yesterdays game yet Tebow is treated like he led ‘The Drive’. The same thing happened in the SD game, McGahee breaks the run, Prater makes the kick, Tebow gets the praise It’s amazing how stupid people get when it comes to this guy.

  82. nflofficeadmin says: Dec 12, 2011 3:27 PM

    Please bring the Tim Tebow Rookie Edition haircut back. That was so fresh. Can we get a picture posting?

  83. geniusesq says: Dec 12, 2011 3:29 PM

    So why don’t the Saints win every year?

  84. bennyd720 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:30 PM

    I don’t care that Tebow believes in JC, that’s his right. I just find him annoying because he feels the need to constantly remind me of that as if I’ve forgotten…

  85. toledoohoh says: Dec 12, 2011 3:30 PM

    Pastors are generally quite religious people though.

  86. thebigwhitecat says: Dec 12, 2011 3:32 PM

    So then, why doesn’t Notre Dame have like a 300-game winning streak?

  87. ampats says: Dec 12, 2011 3:32 PM

    And now coming from the Gates of Hell this Sunday will be the Darth Hoodie and the Evil Empire led by the Godless Tom Brady to light up and destroy the “Chosen One” and his Broncos.

  88. austrianpanther says: Dec 12, 2011 3:33 PM

    As Tiny Tim would say….”God bless us, every one!”

  89. drshakedown74 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:34 PM

    Ridiculous. People who think God or whatever gives a crap about football is a kook. If there is a God (which I doubt)……..I am sure he would prefer Cribbage or Backgammon or something.

  90. notrelated says: Dec 12, 2011 3:34 PM

    Sheldon: Mom smokes in the car. Jesus is okay with it, but we can’t tell dad.

  91. hendawg21 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:34 PM

    And when Brother Tim loses and gets his arse handed to him what will thigh sayeth then???

    Please, please stop all this crazed love for Tim and Tom and Tony and all the other man crushes you have…

  92. comeonnowguys says: Dec 12, 2011 3:37 PM

    “thebigwhitecat says:
    Dec 12, 2011 3:32 PM
    So then, why doesn’t Notre Dame have like a 300-game winning streak?”

    Because God may disproportionately love football above all else, but that doesn’t mean he’s blind.

  93. henryjones20 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:38 PM

    Im starting to like this tebow kid.stands by what he believes in no matter what satans warriors post.dont like his post game?dont like td celebrations? Turn the chanel.jersey shore has never forced me to watch a episode so i never have

  94. pleazenufalready says: Dec 12, 2011 3:38 PM

    ….you all need to make up your minds on how this fairytale stuff works….Does God micro-manage or not? …when thousands of people die in an earthquake or tsunami..the answer is “no”….but when Tebow is fortunate enough to play on a team with a great defense an excellent kicker and against Marion Barber….then, it’s all due to God looking out for him….please

  95. freewayjim says: Dec 12, 2011 3:39 PM

    Was this really necessary? This is nothing more than some Pastor wanting his 15 minutes of fame.

    It makes reasonable Christians, which are the majority, look bad.

  96. barroomhero80 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:39 PM

    ENOUGH! man im sick of this god and teblow crap. and i really doubt he watches the game folks. s*its gone way too far

  97. metalhead65 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:39 PM

    stop with god talk! the reason everybody is behind him and wants him to do well is because of people like yourself. you know the “experts” who say he can’t play in the nfl. we all know about his beliefs and expect him to talk about it but we do not need to hear from his pastor or anybody else on the the subject. would he be getting this kind of treaatment if he were muslim?and by treatment I mean the constant sarcasim and ridicule he gets from the media and from people like you when you write about him. and if he did imagine the uproar from those people who are offended by everything.

  98. horsemeat47 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:40 PM

    Passionburnswithin says:
    Dec 12, 2011 3:22 PM
    What the pastor is saying is that he believes that because of Tim’s personal commitment to honor God that God is blessing him individually. We must understand that if we believe God has a plan for our lives that He wants us to follow then we must also believe that if we are obedient we will reap the rewards of that obedience. Does that mean that God despises other believers on other teams. No of course not but what it does mean is that at this moment through this avenue God is choosing to allow Tebow the spotlight. I will not attempt to understand why this moment or avenue has been chosen but I know God is involved because he cares about each person and the totality of their existence. Even if that existence includes a lot of football. Also remember that winning isn’t always good and losing isn’t always bad for the individual. God uses those things to teach and grow us and accomplish His purpose. Again this isn’t for me to try to understand but to see through.
    ————————
    So you don’t understand it, you can’t explain it but you want us to believe it? — next

  99. fargovikesfan says: Dec 12, 2011 3:40 PM

    This Just In… Timmy, do you honestly think that God has nothing better to do with his time than to assist you in playing a football game? Maybe he has NFL Red Zone so he can see when he needs to give Saint Timothy a hand…

    Give it a rest, even God is getting sick of hearing it every 5 minutes.

  100. iknowurider72 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:41 PM

    Thats right. A man made deity is so interested in NFL football he’s decided to give Tebow the gift of winning. I’m sure that is what a God would be focused on. Please stop it, please.

  101. shallowfan says: Dec 12, 2011 3:42 PM

    Well, when i was a young Christian I believed God had a hand in sports. I always believed that God would favor the team that, if they won, would give Him the most glory.

    After growing up and maturing, and being involved in sports I decided that God is pretty neutral on the outcome of sporting events. There is no other explanation for the outcomes of games. There are christains praying on both sides of the ball, there are guys giving God glory before during and after games on both sides. I don’t agree with ppl praying for victory. I agree with ppl praying for safety, but not victory.

    I would be upset if my pastor came out and said this because at some point it is going to end for Tebow. The winning streak will end and then the comment from the pastor is going to be “It’s God’s will…” and everyone is going to wonder what Tebow did to get out of God’s good graces.

    I am a big supporter of Tebow and want him to do well. Don’t mind if he’s outspoken about his faith, a lot of other entertainers and athletes are outspoken about a lot worse things.

    Tebow is handling this very well, others aren’t imo.

  102. earthtopft says: Dec 12, 2011 3:42 PM

    Pastor Hansen, who is not as young as he once was, and has some hearing difficulty, misinterpreted God’s words about Tebow being “the current flavor”.

  103. trollhammer20 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:43 PM

    This reminds me of a Saturday Night Live sketch from years gone by.

    “I gotta blame Jesus for the loss today. We prayed before the game and everything, but He really let us down.”

  104. nightwalker43 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:48 PM

    Stirring the pot aren’t you Mr. F. Why can’t you just keep it to football Mr. F? You know exactly what a story like this is going to do. Drive people to irrational fears about observant Christians like Tim Tebow and his pastor. Who cares if the Pastor believes that its Jesus who is helping Tim Tebow win football games? Who exactly is it hurting? You either believe it or dismiss. I am of the opinion that GOD rests on Sunday as the Good Book says and watches Tim do his thing and loves it! That’s just my opinion, I could be wrong.

  105. worldwidebleater says: Dec 12, 2011 3:50 PM

    I wish Marion Barber had said after the game,” We were doing ok until Jesus made me fumble”.

  106. nightwalker43 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:51 PM

    Mocking peoples faith isn’t a way to go through life. Try sticking to ethnicity or race, you’ll go much farther in getting a reaction Mr. F.

  107. jimmysee says: Dec 12, 2011 3:51 PM

    Seems like pastors are always coming to conclusions that favor their own interpretations of events.

    That’s one thing I find distasteful about those guys.

    If I were a religious figure, I’d be mighty careful speaking for God.

  108. voiceofrealism says: Dec 12, 2011 3:53 PM

    …and when Brady beats him next week, what will the story be then? What will that mean about GOD?

  109. rushmatic says: Dec 12, 2011 3:53 PM

    Just when I start to enjoy watching how Tebow will do it this week, I read this pile of smelly filth.

    Reason # 331 why I hate religion and the terds who blindly follow it.

  110. avoidtheboyd says: Dec 12, 2011 3:54 PM

    So Tim Tebow and the Broncos are the only people in the NFL who believe in God? Wow. I had no idea every single one of the other 1,643 NFL players were a bunch of atheists, the jerks.

  111. donz0 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:56 PM

    Yesterday Tom Brady verbally thwacked his OC. This Sunday he’s gonna physically smite the Broncos.

  112. johnnyb1976 says: Dec 12, 2011 3:56 PM

    With that being said let’s just cancel the rest of the games and the super bowl crown denver super bowl champs and Tebow king of everything forever. Comments like that pastor made is the reason so many people dislike Tebow.

  113. geniusesq says: Dec 12, 2011 3:57 PM

    That explains why Texas Christian University is the National Champion every yea…..oh. Huh?

  114. dickroy says: Dec 12, 2011 3:57 PM

    I have never heard Tim Tebow say that he thinks God assist him in a football game or gives him a hand in the red zone.
    If he prays to God for a victory, I don’t believe personally that that is right.
    If he thanks God for a victory, I see nothing wrong with that. Just my opinion alone.

  115. Deb says: Dec 12, 2011 3:57 PM

    The notion that God’s favor becomes a factor in sporting events implies that God favors those who win and ignores those who lose. And that’s why I’m always reluctant to suggest that winning and losing has any correlation to the will of God. There are good men, and bad men, on every team. Believers and non-believers. Saints and sinners.

    Well said, Mike. That about covers it for me, too. When the Broncos lose–and they will at some point because they don’t have the talent to match up against the top teams in the two conferences–will the pastor say Tim has fallen out of God’s favor? It’s fine to express your faith, but better not to speculate on God’s motives.

  116. portnoychunk says: Dec 12, 2011 3:58 PM

    If I were a believer, I don’t think I would have much respect for a Pastor with such a seemingly trivial concept of what “God” is and what God represents .

  117. shotgungrampa says: Dec 12, 2011 4:00 PM

    Winning or losing isnt the point. Its about changed lives. Its meant for all of us to take a look at our own lives. Hell is for sinners. Tebow would be the first to admit he is one. He has seen his sin and has repented. “Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation”. What will you do? Jesus said “unless you repent you will perish”

  118. scytherius says: Dec 12, 2011 4:04 PM

    I can’t really express my hate for ignorant, drooling fools that think this way. Why? Cause no way I’d stand a chance of this post not getting deleted. At least have have a shot only saying this much.

  119. SOBEIT says: Dec 12, 2011 4:04 PM

    Sheldon: Why are you crying?
    Penny: Because I’m stupid!
    Sheldon: That’s no reason to cry. One cries because one is sad. For example, I cry because others are stupid, and that makes me sad.

  120. nfloracle says: Dec 12, 2011 4:05 PM

    Rushmatic, “turds” is the proper spelling for “terds,” unless you live in Boston, where “terds” is acceptable since that’s how it’s pronounced there.

    With that out of the way, how can anyone with more than five functioning brain cells believe a God exists who would help a football player win a stupid game while allowing countless numbers of children to die every single minute of the year around the world of starvation and worse… much, much worse?

  121. SOBEIT says: Dec 12, 2011 4:08 PM

    Sheldon: For what it’s worth, my mother says that when we deceive for personal gain, we make Jesus cry.

    Raj: My religion teaches that if we suffer in this life we are rewarded in the next. Three months at the North Pole with Sheldon and I’m reborn as a well-hung billionaire with wings!

  122. kevpft says: Dec 12, 2011 4:09 PM

    Pastors are marketers. Believe this guy as much as you’d believe any advertising firm.

    Which is to say, not at all.

  123. bfi69 says: Dec 12, 2011 4:10 PM

    More reason to believe today’s religious leaders are frauds! To think God cares about the NFL or more for one player than the other…..GO AWAY! People, you’re smart enough to pursue your religious beliefs on your own!!! Quit using sports as your vehicle…it’s kinda pitiful, actually!!

  124. unlost1 says: Dec 12, 2011 4:13 PM

    here we go with the controversy. this is one of those things that’s likely true but better not to say because everyone will misinterpret it. Ask Kurt Warner.

  125. doctorfootball says: Dec 12, 2011 4:16 PM

    All this shows is that if there is a God, he’s a real jerk. He doesn’t favor the poor, the orphaned or the starving. He favors Heisman winning quarterbacks. What an @$$hole!!

  126. earthtopft says: Dec 12, 2011 4:17 PM

    John Elway is uncomfortable with Tebow’s beliefs because it implies a higher power than himself out there somewhere.

  127. earthtopft says: Dec 12, 2011 4:19 PM

    Pastor Hanson aspired to be a Cardinal some day, or even a Bishop. But his penchant for ill considered comments have held him back.

  128. noahbird says: Dec 12, 2011 4:20 PM

    He must go to Westboro Baptist. If some God shows favor in sports why doesn’t it show favor to starving christian children in underdeveloped countries? Tebow and his pastor are both greedy lost souls.

  129. proteus914 says: Dec 12, 2011 4:22 PM

    It’s incredible that a few morons can make the whole Denver fan base look bad.
    From the people who were putting up billboards to this idiot pastor….it just goes on and on and on…

  130. stavreafavre says: Dec 12, 2011 4:24 PM

    In other news today, a woman was executed in Saudi Arabia because it was decided that she was practicing sorcery. Pretty much all organized religion is stupid and intolerant, and it has a contagious effect.

  131. wolfiewolfgang says: Dec 12, 2011 4:26 PM

    I’ve been a Bronco fan since the early 70′s. I can’t take it anymore. Tebow is the new Farve. It’s not just what he does but how the media fawns over him. I’m out. You win.
    The remainder of this year I will cheer for the Colts to complete their perfect season and then anyone but the Broncos. As much as that hurts I just can’t take it.
    The last straw was a local news program calling it, “the Mile-High Messiah”.

  132. profootballwalk says: Dec 12, 2011 4:28 PM

    God wants children to be raped. And Paris Hilton to get paid $40,000 for showing up at parties.

  133. snowpea84 says: Dec 12, 2011 4:31 PM

    If the Broncos win the super bowl this year with Tebow at QB I might have to start going to church and obeying the commandments.
    I mean, I can’t think of a more reasonable explanation for whats happening, so…that’s what I’m left with.

  134. prior0knowledge says: Dec 12, 2011 4:33 PM

    It’s very simple: If you believe in a personal God, one that answers prayers, then it is not unreasonable to believe that God favors Tebow. If you don’t believe in a personal God, then you think it is not true.

    The real nonsense is the non-believers trying to attribute any logic to the believers’ vision God and what He does or does not do.

  135. gamermwm says: Dec 12, 2011 4:34 PM

    A lot of people here don’t understand the concept of God’s favor

    Just because the Green Bay Packers are winning doesn’t mean God’s favor is on them. But it doesn’t NOT mean that either…
    Who are we to say….

    But sometimes you CAN look at a person who is living his life for God and you can easily see that he has God’s favor on his life

    That is what the pastor is talking about. God will put his favor on certain people who are living for Him in order to draw people to them…so that they may see Him and He may draw them to Himself.

    As to why Green Bay is so good…that doesn’t neccesarily have anything to do with God’s favor but then again it might. Who knows. So you can’t use that black and white logic of “being a winner means you have God’s favor” when you don’t understand the concept in the first place

  136. jm1122 says: Dec 12, 2011 4:45 PM

    …and why would anyone care what a “pastor” has to say anyway?!?…pastors make a living by convincing little old ladies that they will live forever as long as they show up to church at least once a week and donate money! how pathetic is that?!?

  137. buffaloniner says: Dec 12, 2011 4:45 PM

    THIS JUST IN : In a statement released today, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has reiterated the league’s stance on performance enhancers and, in the interest of player safety, has confirmed that Jesus Christ will be added to the leagues list of banned substances. Testing for “JC” is scheduled to begin immediately and consists of a single question asked to players… “do you believe in dinosaurs?”… The NFLPA has yet to agree on how these tests will be administered.

  138. iflounder says: Dec 12, 2011 4:51 PM

    god bestows his favors on whoever tithes the most. everyone knows that.

  139. thetooloftools says: Dec 12, 2011 4:52 PM

    If this is the case how come The Oakland Raiders team plane hasn’t crashed and burned?

  140. jrs1972 says: Dec 12, 2011 4:55 PM

    It all ends soon. Simple math.
    Gronk > tebow + god.

  141. dcfan4life says: Dec 12, 2011 4:58 PM

    For those of you who actually believe God has a plan for everyone, that he makes decisions in advance is just not thinking of what that actually means. If God says i will get a great job, then that means someone else wont. If God says i will win a football game, that means someone else will lose. If God makes such decisions, and all of our lives our mapped, then why are we here. Whats the point of reading a book you have memorized 100 times over. Watching a movie you know by heart 100 times over. There is no point. Tebow wins because his team and himself win. No higher power does a thing to help either side. Would make God the devil, as he destroys the hearts of the Bears players and fans to help the Broncos. Doesnt make sense does it…

  142. ahs2 says: Dec 12, 2011 4:58 PM

    Exhibit “A” of why I abandoned organized religion. I couldn’t ignore any longer the contradictions and hypocrisy not to mention a history of mass murder and institutionalized child rape! But hey, as long as God is favoring Tebow, the rest doesn’t matter!!!

  143. armoderate says: Dec 12, 2011 4:59 PM

    And now we’re featuring TMZ which is nothing more than the National Enquirer on video. This blog isn’t reporting real football news. It’s little old lady gossip and dribble. I’m surprised Barbara Walters isn’t one of your contributors.

  144. justsayin70 says: Dec 12, 2011 5:00 PM

    “having favor” does NOT equate to “wins” … it merely means that by living according to God’s Word, Tim Tebow will be blessed.

    Suggesting otherwise is to be inciteful (rather than INSIGHTful).

  145. bspurloc says: Dec 12, 2011 5:01 PM

    Marion Barbers beliefs made him not wanted to defy a greater believer in Tebow.

  146. brandonofcb says: Dec 12, 2011 5:03 PM

    God isn’t choosing sides, Tebow is a believer and through the gift that God has given him, he is doing well. So YES God is helping him win by providing him with those gifts. God has provided every athelete a gift, but most chose to think that they need to thank themselves for that gift, Tebow knows that if it weren’t for God, he wouldnt have that gift. God has blessed everyone that steps onto that field, it’s refreshing to see someone thank God for it and not be ashamed to admit it.By the way, we are all sinners, believers and non-believers.

  147. willardj says: Dec 12, 2011 5:04 PM

    There is no god.

    Let’s see how many thumbs up and thumbs down I get to determine the percentage of atheists on here.

  148. koufaxmitzvah says: Dec 12, 2011 5:09 PM

    Does G-d really give a dang about football?

  149. bonniebengal says: Dec 12, 2011 5:19 PM

    “One of his pastors in Colorado” Who is the guy? Is Wayne Hanson really close to Tebow or is he misrepresenting himself? Did anyone ask those question?

    Secondly, Tebow himself has not said these things. This Wayne Hanson guy, whoever he is, said them. So don’t act like these are Tebow’s words.

  150. MossMoon2Packers says: Dec 12, 2011 5:19 PM

    Glad to see so many commenters scoffing at the notion that God favors one football team over another. Now, if we could only get the same outcry when some politico/evangelist claims that God favors America over other nations.

  151. nightwalker43 says: Dec 12, 2011 5:22 PM

    Now people are saying Tebow can’t beat the better teams in the league. I guess for the haters that’s a step up from saying he can’t play in this league. The fact that we now have 4 NFL QBs who may pass Marino’s passing record indicates to me how pass happy the league has become. Broncos are a reflection of the way football use to be played. You may not like the style, but it did exist at one time in this league. I for one like a more balanced approach, rather than the pinball madden video game that we see now. IT’S A JOKE.

  152. Deb says: Dec 12, 2011 5:29 PM

    scytherius says:

    I can’t really express my hate for ignorant, drooling fools that think this way. Why? Cause no way I’d stand a chance of this post not getting deleted. At least have have a shot only saying this much.

    ————————————————

    You can’t make any kind of logical assumptions about what will or won’t be censored here. profootballwalk is allowed to post–speaking facetiously–that God wants children to be raped, but I’m censored for saying casual football fans are only interested in fantasy stats and not in the nuances of the game. Logic and maturity play no role in moderation on this site.

  153. dadsource says: Dec 12, 2011 5:53 PM

    Nothing inspires commentary and hatred like mentioned God or Tim Tebow. God’s favor? Not even a biblical concept, he’s stealing that from Joel O’Steen! He’s been saying that for YEARS!

    I love God and I like Tim Tebow a lot, met him, his mom, his brother, and dad when he played here at Nease H.S. in NEFL. Pretty low-key folks, and super-nice. But definitely NOT a Gator fan, BIG 10 all the way!

    People are blowing this up way more than it needs to be….I mean, we’re quoting Tim’s pastor about FOOTBALL? Really?

    What about Aaron Rogers pastor? I’m glad Tim is winning, and that he is doing it playing a different, old, weird style of football that is hard to measure. Heck, he may even win a Super Bowl someday.

    But really, take the magnifying glass off, you’re not going to find controversy here. Oh, guess what, Tim Tebow just farted! God is pissed!

    Sheesh!

  154. clevername1 says: Dec 12, 2011 8:17 PM

    Many of you people miss the point. I’m pretty sure God does not care about the outcome of a game. But God can make one stronger, make one believe and give one the persereverance to overcome doubt.

    I am by no means a “Bible beater”, but there is something about this kid. As a Gator fan, I am used to it. He has IT!

  155. comedianchrissmith says: Dec 12, 2011 8:52 PM

    Pray as you wish, sheep! The moment anyone ordained in any religion begins to make the connection between the play of a sports figure to that player’s relationship with God, there must be a line drawn in the sand. In a world with 11 billion people, I am befuddled by the notion that God’s infinite and power is relegated to the play of a football player.

    Michael Irvin espoused his religious views all over the football field and media and people just shrugged it off. Now, we get the All-American kid doing it and somehow he’s a folk hero for Jesus. There are a wealth of dichotomies in the Bible so one man’s claim is another man’s argument. Let it be, Tim Tebow. Use your position in life to keep making a positive impact on the world; that is far more commendable than turning a football field into a pulpit.

    I am a typical Agnostic that only hopes for the best in a world where so many put out their worst. Tim Tebow is a tremendous role model for humanity but goodness is not relegated to Christianity alone.

  156. Deb says: Dec 12, 2011 9:39 PM

    @clevername1 …

    God doesn’t make you believe. You have to do that on your own.

  157. outlawshark says: Dec 12, 2011 9:56 PM

    Tebow was born an atheist, just like you and me.

  158. childressrulz says: Dec 13, 2011 6:17 AM

    Who cares about Teblow! Play a good team and I will take notice.

  159. yellowdog25 says: Dec 13, 2011 8:44 AM

    If I was Tebow and my pastor said that, I wouldn’t show up ever again to that church. Choice….either find a new one or stop going altogether.

  160. jm1122 says: Dec 13, 2011 1:25 PM

    …i’d like to thank all the christians for their entertaining comments about the ancient superstitions that they continue to cling to…i’d also like to encourage each of you to continue to post all the details of your christian faith…the more public light we can shine on your baseless beliefs, the fewer people will choose to be brainwashed by your sizable cults…

  161. bluerabbit says: Dec 13, 2011 2:44 PM

    It isn’t Tebow. It’s the politics and the preaching surrounding him that are annoying. This preacher’s response is just one example. Believers, if it works for you, fantastic. The rest of us have tried it. Other things work for us now. Many of us, by the way, remember that Superbowl commercial from last year. The people who want to control women are proposing a new Personhood amendment for next year. Tebow may play football, but his supporters have another agenda–control of other people who do not share their beliefs.

  162. eleventyeight says: Dec 13, 2011 6:03 PM

    Maybe God wants a bunch of obnoxious idiots to post God-hating and Tebow hate on PFT?

    If so, he sure gotcha there, din’t he??

  163. eleventyeight says: Dec 13, 2011 6:05 PM

    But helpless fetuses might want to be football fans and post political crap on PFT too?

    Or would you just rather murder them so their mommies can keep on banging Pro-Bowlers of the future??

  164. rushmatic says: Dec 13, 2011 6:08 PM

    nfloracle says:
    Dec 12, 2011 4:05 PM
    Rushmatic, “turds” is the proper spelling for “terds,” unless you live in Boston, where “terds” is acceptable since that’s how it’s pronounced there.

    With that out of the way, how can anyone with more than five functioning brain cells believe a God exists who would help a football player win a stupid game while allowing countless numbers of children to die every single minute of the year around the world of starvation and worse… much, much worse?

    _____________________

    My apologies on some seriously inept poop-spelling. And on your second point, I’m right there with you.

  165. robyesno says: Dec 14, 2011 4:18 AM

    Those who don’t understand Tim Teabow also don’t understand God. How could you? You don’t have the capacity. You like to image God is limited to a certain place and time and can’t handle a football game and starving children at the same time because you as human beings can’t. You don’t like God to interfere or be real if it comes to what you want the freedom to do. But starving kids that’s God’s problem to solve; football that’s your concern because you could care less for starving kids unless you can use them to prove a point (that statement is confined to the hypocrites not the truly charitable).

    Why would God us football and Tim Teabow? Because all who will have to pay for their own sins are in more peril than starving children. No one gets out of this life alive whether you starve to death or die in your sleep cozy in your bed after watching football. God takes the opportunity of reaching you where you spend your time to get the message to you. Cause you’ re here on PFT instead of where the starving children are!!!!!

  166. karenc2002 says: Dec 14, 2011 11:00 AM

    Anyone that believes that the imaginary “sky fairy” is responsible and is showing favor to tebow, needs to be put in a rubber room.

  167. gmen1987 says: Dec 15, 2011 10:08 AM

    I wonder where God was the day the evil Detroit Lions blew the doors off Tebow and Denver?

  168. yyyass says: Dec 15, 2011 12:45 PM

    The Packers have won more games in a row than the Broncos. Behold the Power of Cheese.

  169. thermalito says: Dec 18, 2011 12:02 AM

    Religious kooks say the darndest things. Apparently god is much more concerned with the well being of millionaire professional athletes then he is ending the rape, murder and abuse of Karen refugees living in Burma, child starvation in North Korea and the brutal warlord dictatorships terrorizing Africa at this time.
    Listening to idiotic comments such as this from moronic American religious lunatics makes me even more grateful to be an Atheist.

  170. footballfan says: Dec 19, 2011 9:36 AM

    I guess this means God is a Patriots fan?????

  171. gingerkid2000 says: Dec 19, 2011 10:37 AM

    If your “God” is more concerned about winning a football game and winning 6 games in a row is a “miracle” then your “God” sucks.

  172. cowboysblowgoats says: Dec 19, 2011 1:18 PM

    Obviously Tom Brady is far superior Christian than Tim Tebow.

    Tom Brady is the best prayer on earth. He clearly outprayed Tebow yesterday.

    Besides, how else do you explain three superbowl wins and Giselle Bundchen.

    Tebow hasn’t won squat, and I think he’s gay.

  173. rushmatic says: Dec 19, 2011 6:55 PM

    wolfiewolfgang says:
    I’ve been a Bronco fan since the early 70′s. I can’t take it anymore. Tebow is the new Farve. It’s not just what he does but how the media fawns over him. I’m out. You win.
    The remainder of this year I will cheer for the Colts to complete their perfect season and then anyone but the Broncos. As much as that hurts I just can’t take it.
    The last straw was a local news program calling it, “the Mile-High Messiah”.
    _____________________

    Now that’s really sad. And I completely understand you. If he were in Foxboro, I’d probably be saying the same thing. Thankfully, I don’t think Belichick would allow it as it has nothing to do with football.

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