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	<title>Comments on: Holmgren: &#8220;It&#8217;s unfair&#8221; to criticize Browns on McCoy&#8217;s concussion</title>
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		<title>By: critter69</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 18:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I received a concussion in an auto accident several decades ago.

No headache that day.  None the next day.  None the next day.  None the next day. None the next day.  None the next day until on the way home from work.  Then a MONSTER, pulsing, headache hit, and lasted, continuously, for 12 days.  Then it let up for a while, came back, let up, came back, let up - you get the idea.

The day of the accident, there was a ruptured gas tank in one of the vehicles, and gasoline was flowing down the street.  I saw it, warned people to not have a lit match and/or cigarette in the area, then (while standing next to the flowing gasoline), I promptly lit a cigarette.  And even then, I was not diagnosed with a concussion until a couple of weeks after the accident.

Unless and until you have a concussion, you have NO idea what it is like.  Just as no one who has never experienced a broken bone can understand the pain.  Or an appendectomy.  Or a kidney stone.

And no one who has not experienced blindness, or been around someone who has total blindness, can even begin to understand blindness.

The old saying used to be &quot;Don&#039;t knock it until you&#039;ve tried it.&quot;  Maybe it should be updated to &quot;Don&#039;t pooh-pooh it until you&#039;ve actually experienced it.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received a concussion in an auto accident several decades ago.</p>
<p>No headache that day.  None the next day.  None the next day.  None the next day. None the next day.  None the next day until on the way home from work.  Then a MONSTER, pulsing, headache hit, and lasted, continuously, for 12 days.  Then it let up for a while, came back, let up, came back, let up &#8211; you get the idea.</p>
<p>The day of the accident, there was a ruptured gas tank in one of the vehicles, and gasoline was flowing down the street.  I saw it, warned people to not have a lit match and/or cigarette in the area, then (while standing next to the flowing gasoline), I promptly lit a cigarette.  And even then, I was not diagnosed with a concussion until a couple of weeks after the accident.</p>
<p>Unless and until you have a concussion, you have NO idea what it is like.  Just as no one who has never experienced a broken bone can understand the pain.  Or an appendectomy.  Or a kidney stone.</p>
<p>And no one who has not experienced blindness, or been around someone who has total blindness, can even begin to understand blindness.</p>
<p>The old saying used to be &#8220;Don&#8217;t knock it until you&#8217;ve tried it.&#8221;  Maybe it should be updated to &#8220;Don&#8217;t pooh-pooh it until you&#8217;ve actually experienced it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: taudaddy79</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[taudaddy79]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Our medical staff and our training staff, they are the best in football,” Holmgren said. 

Signed,

The Next Case of Staph Infection]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Our medical staff and our training staff, they are the best in football,” Holmgren said. </p>
<p>Signed,</p>
<p>The Next Case of Staph Infection</p>
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		<title>By: gassiusclay</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gassiusclay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How did their medical staff not see the hit?  McCoy is only their starting QB.  Even if medical personnel didn&#039;t see the hit, they should have been alerted by one of the 100 Browns employees who did...saying they didn&#039;t see it and saying that he only complained about hand pain is a terrible excuse.  I am myself a physician, and it doesn&#039;t take a genius practitioner to understand that as a medical professional, it is your job to determine the state of your patient...not the job of the patient to tell you what&#039;s going on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did their medical staff not see the hit?  McCoy is only their starting QB.  Even if medical personnel didn&#8217;t see the hit, they should have been alerted by one of the 100 Browns employees who did&#8230;saying they didn&#8217;t see it and saying that he only complained about hand pain is a terrible excuse.  I am myself a physician, and it doesn&#8217;t take a genius practitioner to understand that as a medical professional, it is your job to determine the state of your patient&#8230;not the job of the patient to tell you what&#8217;s going on.</p>
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		<title>By: nflfan877</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nflfan877]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Seattle resident, Holmgren is entirely a class act.  He stands to gain nothing from defending the doctors, he could easily just make them the ginny-pig and fire them and look like the hero.

I don&#039;t see why anyone is mad at him here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Seattle resident, Holmgren is entirely a class act.  He stands to gain nothing from defending the doctors, he could easily just make them the ginny-pig and fire them and look like the hero.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see why anyone is mad at him here?</p>
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		<title>By: pravin68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pravin68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So if the league is really that concerned with player safety , how about some fines/suspensions for a clearly negligent case like this? WHen I saw Seneca Walalce replaced by McCoy, I immediately placed a bet against a TD not happening. McCoy&#039;s eyes looked so glazed, it was too obvious to ignore. Browns management is garbage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if the league is really that concerned with player safety , how about some fines/suspensions for a clearly negligent case like this? WHen I saw Seneca Walalce replaced by McCoy, I immediately placed a bet against a TD not happening. McCoy&#8217;s eyes looked so glazed, it was too obvious to ignore. Browns management is garbage.</p>
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		<title>By: dave1961</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dave1961]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was the Browns fans that were to blame.  We are also to blame for dropped passes and bad snacks we are to blame for bad snaps.  We are to blame for following a lousy team.... Mike Holmgren sucker punched the fans and media and threatened that any criticism of the the team we will not get playoff tickets.... What playoffs?  We never been to the playoffs except one time in 2002.  We need a credible owner until then we are the clowns in Randy Lerner&#039;s circus....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was the Browns fans that were to blame.  We are also to blame for dropped passes and bad snacks we are to blame for bad snaps.  We are to blame for following a lousy team&#8230;. Mike Holmgren sucker punched the fans and media and threatened that any criticism of the the team we will not get playoff tickets&#8230;. What playoffs?  We never been to the playoffs except one time in 2002.  We need a credible owner until then we are the clowns in Randy Lerner&#8217;s circus&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: rcali</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rcali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 23:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At some point Holmgren is going to figure out this franchise is cursed.  Sucks for the fans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At some point Holmgren is going to figure out this franchise is cursed.  Sucks for the fans.</p>
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		<title>By: steelersmichele</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steelersmichele]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 22:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I almost fell off the couch when Ben drew that flag.  He never benefits from those calls.  However, I do agree with Taylor that he shouldn&#039;t be fined, although he should be glad it wasn&#039;t against Brady--the fine would have been higher.

I do have one question for Taylor. When you were voting for he new CBA, one of the issues was Goodells sole ability to suspend and fine players. You voted for it, so really, you shouldn&#039;t complain about something you agreed to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost fell off the couch when Ben drew that flag.  He never benefits from those calls.  However, I do agree with Taylor that he shouldn&#8217;t be fined, although he should be glad it wasn&#8217;t against Brady&#8211;the fine would have been higher.</p>
<p>I do have one question for Taylor. When you were voting for he new CBA, one of the issues was Goodells sole ability to suspend and fine players. You voted for it, so really, you shouldn&#8217;t complain about something you agreed to.</p>
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		<title>By: bigdonnie76</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigdonnie76]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s what happens when your QB is as frail as the Tin-Man. Somebody Call Donavon and get Colt a can of Cambells Chunky]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what happens when your QB is as frail as the Tin-Man. Somebody Call Donavon and get Colt a can of Cambells Chunky</p>
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		<title>By: toolkien</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[toolkien]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Holmgren was a very good coach, helped make Favre who he was. But he wasn&#039;t a good GM in Seattle, and why he had to bring in Ted Thompson from Green Bay (who eventually went back as GM in GB) as an assistant. And now if this is his M.O. as a president, I think H.C. is his high water mark of competency. 

His version of the West Coast Offense worked in both GB and Seattle, Reid took it out to Phillie and has had a measure of success, and it even pinged back into the NFC North in Minnesota (the 2009 Viking offense was about as close to the Holmgren scheme I&#039;ve seen since Holmgren left GB). It wasn&#039;t until Favre decided to &quot;simplify&quot; and crack out the Favreball that things went down hill for the Vikings at the end of 2009 and all of 2010.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holmgren was a very good coach, helped make Favre who he was. But he wasn&#8217;t a good GM in Seattle, and why he had to bring in Ted Thompson from Green Bay (who eventually went back as GM in GB) as an assistant. And now if this is his M.O. as a president, I think H.C. is his high water mark of competency. </p>
<p>His version of the West Coast Offense worked in both GB and Seattle, Reid took it out to Phillie and has had a measure of success, and it even pinged back into the NFC North in Minnesota (the 2009 Viking offense was about as close to the Holmgren scheme I&#8217;ve seen since Holmgren left GB). It wasn&#8217;t until Favre decided to &#8220;simplify&#8221; and crack out the Favreball that things went down hill for the Vikings at the end of 2009 and all of 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: lbcoach34</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lbcoach34]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 20:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Big Show is wrong.

Someone has to stand-up, be a man, and take accountability.

Shurmur won&#039;t do it, and hasn&#039;t done it - and now I see why....Holmgren - his mentor.

Sometimes, the only way to progress or move forward is to be wrong....and admit when you are in fact - WRONG!

Get Gruden!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Show is wrong.</p>
<p>Someone has to stand-up, be a man, and take accountability.</p>
<p>Shurmur won&#8217;t do it, and hasn&#8217;t done it &#8211; and now I see why&#8230;.Holmgren &#8211; his mentor.</p>
<p>Sometimes, the only way to progress or move forward is to be wrong&#8230;.and admit when you are in fact &#8211; WRONG!</p>
<p>Get Gruden!</p>
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		<title>By: cbrady2k</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 20:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tebow can&#039;t get a concussion, his head is surrounded by a protective halo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tebow can&#8217;t get a concussion, his head is surrounded by a protective halo.</p>
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		<title>By: comeonnowguys</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[comeonnowguys]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;“When the injury took place on the field, at that time the question came up, did the doctors see the impact on the play? They did not. And our trainers did not,” Holmgren said. “They were all working, as is typical in a game. They were working on other injured players in the bench area or behind players. So they did not see the play. They heard the crowd reaction, someone said, ‘Colt’s down.’”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is ridiculous. Of course the training staff were working on other things. It&#039;s not their job to monitor the quarterback all day.

The coaches, however, saw their starting QB get rocked in the head. It&#039;s on them to mention that to their staff.

Suspend Shurmur.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“When the injury took place on the field, at that time the question came up, did the doctors see the impact on the play? They did not. And our trainers did not,” Holmgren said. “They were all working, as is typical in a game. They were working on other injured players in the bench area or behind players. So they did not see the play. They heard the crowd reaction, someone said, ‘Colt’s down.’”</p></blockquote>
<p>This is ridiculous. Of course the training staff were working on other things. It&#8217;s not their job to monitor the quarterback all day.</p>
<p>The coaches, however, saw their starting QB get rocked in the head. It&#8217;s on them to mention that to their staff.</p>
<p>Suspend Shurmur.</p>
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		<title>By: fringetastic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fringetastic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It raises a fair point that would have to be addressed even if there is an independent neurologist on the sideline: Watching every player, every play, for a hit that concusses someone - who is going to do it?  You can say the brain doc will, but what if he (or she) is already examining someone on the sidelines? How would that doc watch the QB, the linemen and the receiver doing a fly pattern?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It raises a fair point that would have to be addressed even if there is an independent neurologist on the sideline: Watching every player, every play, for a hit that concusses someone &#8211; who is going to do it?  You can say the brain doc will, but what if he (or she) is already examining someone on the sidelines? How would that doc watch the QB, the linemen and the receiver doing a fly pattern?</p>
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		<title>By: clinttaurus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clinttaurus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[on a related-note, McCoy no longer has concussion-like symtoms...but he does now have a staph infection in his head...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on a related-note, McCoy no longer has concussion-like symtoms&#8230;but he does now have a staph infection in his head&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tavisteelersfan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tavisteelersfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it is unfair Harrison got Suspended ... now what.

How do teams like the Browns with McCoy or Charges with Dielman get off claiming ignorance as their defence.

I say Shurmer, OC and QB Coach get a game off like Harrison has to.

They may not have known, but they sure should have before sending him back in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is unfair Harrison got Suspended &#8230; now what.</p>
<p>How do teams like the Browns with McCoy or Charges with Dielman get off claiming ignorance as their defence.</p>
<p>I say Shurmer, OC and QB Coach get a game off like Harrison has to.</p>
<p>They may not have known, but they sure should have before sending him back in.</p>
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		<title>By: tinbender2000</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tinbender2000]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Our Staph infections are the best.... Um, our medical staff...&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Our Staph infections are the best&#8230;. Um, our medical staff&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: theytukrjobs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[theytukrjobs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, so the Browns judge a concussion by &quot;seeing the hit&quot;.  I see.  No incompetence there after all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, so the Browns judge a concussion by &#8220;seeing the hit&#8221;.  I see.  No incompetence there after all.</p>
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		<title>By: xd2005</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[xd2005]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just goes to show an independent party whose sole responsibility is to monitor potential concussions is needed. Obviously team medical staffs are too overwhelmed with injuries to effectively monitor the health of the players on the field.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just goes to show an independent party whose sole responsibility is to monitor potential concussions is needed. Obviously team medical staffs are too overwhelmed with injuries to effectively monitor the health of the players on the field.</p>
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		<title>By: purpleisreallypinkyouknow</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s just pissed it came to this and he&#039;s covering his tracks.

He got used to BrINT Favre who was dumb enough to go back into the games after every time he had his eggs scrambled.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s just pissed it came to this and he&#8217;s covering his tracks.</p>
<p>He got used to BrINT Favre who was dumb enough to go back into the games after every time he had his eggs scrambled.</p>
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		<title>By: mikeholmgrenwearsstretchpants</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mikeholmgrenwearsstretchpants]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So it&#039;s not the coaching staff&#039;s fault, not the medical staff&#039;s fault, then who&#039;s fault is it?

Mike Holmgren: &quot;Obvioiusly it is Ryan Pontbriand&#039;s fault.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it&#8217;s not the coaching staff&#8217;s fault, not the medical staff&#8217;s fault, then who&#8217;s fault is it?</p>
<p>Mike Holmgren: &#8220;Obvioiusly it is Ryan Pontbriand&#8217;s fault.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: tweekend</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tweekend]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not a Browns fan so I have no motive for defending them, but why is no one complaining about the officials on this? A few weeks ago they were instructed by the league that if they say a player with concussion like symptoms they were to have them removed and examined right? OK, so say the browns medical staff didn&#039;t see the hit, clearly the officials did. They completely failed on their part of this thing. Yeah, I don&#039;t buy the teams BS, but the officiating crew doesn&#039;t come out of this smelling like a bed of roses either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a Browns fan so I have no motive for defending them, but why is no one complaining about the officials on this? A few weeks ago they were instructed by the league that if they say a player with concussion like symptoms they were to have them removed and examined right? OK, so say the browns medical staff didn&#8217;t see the hit, clearly the officials did. They completely failed on their part of this thing. Yeah, I don&#8217;t buy the teams BS, but the officiating crew doesn&#8217;t come out of this smelling like a bed of roses either.</p>
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		<title>By: ChopBlockMurph</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ChopBlockMurph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[godofwine330 says: 
Too much has been made of this. Personally, I saw that Colt was “out of it” from his eyes when he got back in the game after Seneca’s completetion, but I have the benefit of HDTV and multiple camera angles that focus on a number of things. 
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So let me understand: a staff of trained medical professionals was examining McCoy in person on the sideline, yet you were better equipped to diagnose his concussion from your couch thanks to your trusty HDTV? Am I getting that right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>godofwine330 says:<br />
Too much has been made of this. Personally, I saw that Colt was “out of it” from his eyes when he got back in the game after Seneca’s completetion, but I have the benefit of HDTV and multiple camera angles that focus on a number of things.<br />
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So let me understand: a staff of trained medical professionals was examining McCoy in person on the sideline, yet you were better equipped to diagnose his concussion from your couch thanks to your trusty HDTV? Am I getting that right?</p>
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		<title>By: ravensruleandharbaughisgod</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ravensruleandharbaughisgod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you be fined in the NFL for being a bald-faced (well, bald too) liar! I am the walrus....coo coo cachoo!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you be fined in the NFL for being a bald-faced (well, bald too) liar! I am the walrus&#8230;.coo coo cachoo!</p>
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		<title>By: tombradyswig</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tombradyswig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it was unfair to let the daggone kid go back in the game!!!!
He was obviously out cold, even my dead granny could&#039;ve told you that!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it was unfair to let the daggone kid go back in the game!!!!<br />
He was obviously out cold, even my dead granny could&#8217;ve told you that!!!</p>
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		<title>By: mazenblue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mazenblue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If his medical staff is the best, this wouldn&#039;t have been a story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If his medical staff is the best, this wouldn&#8217;t have been a story.</p>
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		<title>By: cannonballdookie</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/14/holmgren-its-unfair-to-criticize-browns-on-colt-mccoys-concussion/#comment-1446741</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cannonballdookie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They are so good that they can test for a concussion in under 2 minutes? I don&#039;t think so walrus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are so good that they can test for a concussion in under 2 minutes? I don&#8217;t think so walrus.</p>
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		<title>By: t16rich</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[t16rich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfair? Go coach a peewee team, that word isn&#039;t used in the Pros.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfair? Go coach a peewee team, that word isn&#8217;t used in the Pros.</p>
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		<title>By: stangbang</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/14/holmgren-its-unfair-to-criticize-browns-on-colt-mccoys-concussion/#comment-1446737</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stangbang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Browns fan here.  Holmgren can&#039;t leave Cleveland fast enough.  In fact, I think I&#039;ll buy him a suitcase for Christmas.  Should I go high-end and get him a Tumi, or save some dough on a Samsonite?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Browns fan here.  Holmgren can&#8217;t leave Cleveland fast enough.  In fact, I think I&#8217;ll buy him a suitcase for Christmas.  Should I go high-end and get him a Tumi, or save some dough on a Samsonite?</p>
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		<title>By: jackblackshairyback</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jackblackshairyback]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kmarto....they should KNOW he was hit in the head because he was lying on the ground? Why not an ankle or a knee? Tell me who these potential trainers are that have ESP, and I&#039;ll hire them myself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kmarto&#8230;.they should KNOW he was hit in the head because he was lying on the ground? Why not an ankle or a knee? Tell me who these potential trainers are that have ESP, and I&#8217;ll hire them myself.</p>
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