Fins fans take flight in effort to fire Ireland

When the Dolphins conclude their season with a January 1 game against the Jets, a message other than “Happy New Year” will be circling above Sun Life Stadium for two hours before kickoff.

According to Ben Volin of the Palm Beach Post, the proprietors of Finsnation.com have purchased a flying billboard, which will read:  “Mr. Ross, save our Dolphins.  Fire Jeff Ireland.”

The effort costs a whopping $1,500, but Chris Joseph and Roger Paul have solicited donations to finance the message.

“We just put it out there on Twitter, and the next thing you know it snowballed like crazy,” Joseph told Volin on Thursday.  “This afternoon we put up a Paypal link, and within four hours we met our goal, just purely on donations.  We’re just overwhelmed by people’s anger.”

So why should Ireland go?  “There’s a feeling that he’s going to screw up the draft again or not get the quarterback that everyone wants,” Joseph said. “Firing Sparano was one thing, but if you’re going to do that, you’ve got to clean house.”

In this case, it’s hard not to agree.  Somehow, owner Stephen Ross has determined that the struggles trace not to a lack of talent, but to bad coaching.  The better approach would be to treat the General Manager and head coach as a package deal — either both stay, or both go.

The fact that Ireland was able to save his job surely did nothing to foster the kind of relationship that needs to exist between G.M. and coach.  If/when the two men have equal accountability, they’ll get along a hell of a lot better, and when things get rough they won’t worry about trying to save their own butts, focusing their energy and time instead on finding a way to work together in the hopes of saving both their jobs.

73 responses to “Fins fans take flight in effort to fire Ireland

  1. As a Dolphins fan, Why fire Ireland? He’s drafted fairly well and made some smart moves in free agency. He’s not the one that was settling for FG’s constantly on 4th & Goal inside the 5, then cartwheeling because they went through the uprights.

  2. They would be better off having the sign say,Please sell the Dolphins since Steven Ross is a big reason why the Dolphins will never become a successful franchise under the current ownership beter known as Barnum& Bailey’s Circus.

  3. To counter this and stick up for his boy, Bill Parcells will fly by in a plane of his own, jump out, and come soaring in under his Golden Parachute paid for by the previous owner.

  4. And if this were a story about Eagles fans doing this, there would surely be an editorial comment about how foolish we are…

  5. this Ireland character… he’s the one who asked Dez Bryant if his mother was a prostitute during interviews at the combine, right?? yeah he must be awesome at his job.

  6. How much would It cost me to redirect that plane into the Maryland area? And how much to make that sign say ” Peter Angelos…sell the Orioles you D-bag!!!!!” Ahhh how I miss when my O’s were good 😦

  7. millertime30 says:
    Dec 16, 2011 10:00 AM
    this Ireland character… he’s the one who asked Dez Bryant if his mother was a prostitute during interviews at the combine, right?? yeah he must be awesome at his job.

     Not a dolphins or cowboys fan, but that whole thing was caused by bryant…he said his dad’s occupation was “being a pimp”, and then said his mom works for his dad. Now if you heard someone say that, what would you assume his mothers occupation was?

  8. firing Ireland would be a mistake. His last draft was excellent. I’m glad he didn’t give away picks to get orton or move up and take gabbert. These people don’t know anything about football

  9. I will repeat myself:

    I just can’t read one more ignorant post from a “Dolphins” fan without addressing this. I have to respond to the whole “Ireland sucks and should be canned” CRAP:

    Do you like our young defense? Hm? Do you like our depth? Do you like Vontae Davis, Sean Smith, Kendall Langford, Paul Solia, Karlos Dansby, The removal of Channing Crowder and then replacing him with Kevin Burnett, Jimmy Wilson…… Do you like these players? This defense that will be solid for years to come…. Yeah, I thought so. Guess who brought them in? Jeff Ireland.

    How about our offense? Let’s see, Brandon Marshal, Reggie Bush, Matt Moore (you remember when everybody complained that Ireland was a moron because he brought in Moore instead of Orton? Yeah that was pretty stupid, huh?), Jake Long, Mike Pouncy…. Jeff Ireland has loaded this team with talent. His only shortfall arguably is that he has not given us a first round QB. And that will change this year. Come April, Ireland will have given us all the pieces to have a contender, not just for one season, but for years to come. We will once again be perennial contenders. Rome wasn’t built in a day. You don’t reverse the post-Marino collapse, culminated by a 1-15 season, with one draft. You rebuild from the bottom up.

    Any “true” Dolphins fan will tell you that Jeff Ireland has done a great job as the Dolphins GM. All the other negative comments are coming from complete morons. Fair weather fans. That’s it.

  10. Lest we forget, just last week Ireland was the architect of what PFT deemed the “best 4-8 team in NFL history”.

    But you have to give him credit for walking away from the Broncos demand of a 2nd round pick for Kyle Orton. Spielman would have done it. Mueller would have done it. At least Ireland had some vision with that one.

  11. Like someone else mentioned….instead of purchasing a flying billboard that won’t make a difference to Ross, donate the money food pantry or something.

  12. Are you not the same ones who wanted H.W.Huzienga to the sell the team also?
    How did that work out for us??
    Last year was Irelands first draft alone.
    He did well with what he had to work with,in terms of picks.
    Was there any franchise QB to get other then Cam? Nope. How did Orton work out in Denver?
    Now, who did he go get for us:
    Dan Thomas-
    Reggie
    Dansby
    Burnett
    Pouncey
    Marshall
    Davis
    Smith
    Long
    ALL STARTERS
    You guys make it out to be that, poof you can wave a magic wand and a great team appears. it takes time…
    Ever one of you for years been complaining about us giving up a 2 for Qb, he did not do that this year and you still complain.
    As i warned you all before about your wishes, be carfuel you just may get it….and realize what you had?

  13. As a comfort to Dolphins fans, there was no decision maker in the history of professional sports, nay, business in general, than Vinny Cerato, and even he eventually was ousted. Keep the faith and know an end will come.

  14. Dolphin fans are not concerned Ireland “might” screw up this coming draft and not pick a quarterback of the future…..

    THEY KNOW HE’LL SCREW UP THIS COMING DRAFT !!!!

    If Ross doesn’t get rid of Ireland now, get ready to hear Roger Goodell calling the first round pick in the 2012 draft for the Dolphins being the next useless LB that can’t get to the passer.

    No QB, No #1 or 2 receiver, no tight end, no ball hawk safety….just another useless LB.

  15. eaglesfanalways says:
    Dec 16, 2011 9:57 AM
    And if this were a story about Eagles fans doing this, there would surely be an editorial comment about how foolish we are…

    ________________________________

    You paid Steve Smith more than DeSean Jackson.
    I mean, what more confirmation are you looking for that you are the laughing stock of the NFL?

    Get a clue before you feel sorry for your own team.

  16. Sparano had personnel power as HC. It seems like Ireland was able to convince Ross that some of the bad personnel moves were at the behest of both Parcells and Sparano……..Personnel decisions like Chad Henne QB, Pat White QB and Patrick Turner WR. Ireland releasing Channing Chowder seemed like a personal vendetta rather than a personnel move. Ross will most likely bring in Carl Petersen to oversee everything. I’m not sure that’s good for the Dolphins but it could not be worse than some of the personnel moves that both Parcells and Sparano made. Henne had to be Parcells and Sparano’s decision which allows Jeff Ireland to keep his job.

  17. It is a shame that it has to come to this. As a Dolphin fan I am extremely disappointed in Ross. He has no clue as to what he’s doing. Ireland should have been fired last year with Sporano. The unfortunate thing in all of this is even if he comes to his sences & fires Ireland, he’s just going to replace him with another failure in Peterson.
    Our only hope is if this dope sells the team.

  18. As a Dolphin fan I think that Ireland did a good job with his draft first true draft last year. It was a solid draft and Jimmy Wilson is a 7th round stud.

    He has done a good job on free agents to in my opinion. Yes he has had some misses but nothing that hurt the franchise.

    Ireland was against the Pat White pick but it was Parcells who wanted it.

    Firing Tony was a good start.

  19. i3addog says:Dec 16, 2011 9:56 AM

    I’m willing to bet that not a single donor has given a dime to a food pantry.

    ————————-

    I’m willing to bet that you don’t get to tell other people (besides you bf of course) how to spend their money…

    Last time I checked this was still the USA…

  20. Love the Oriole hijack! Tough division to win in, but DANG, what a fan base! And park! Oh my! I’m a Red Sox fan and love that team, city, and park!

    Fins fans, you’re a tough bunch. As a Jags fan, I don’t know enough about Ireland, but you seem pretty convinced…sounds like he did ok with personell, what’s the MAIN reason you want him out?

  21. In order for the Fins to move forward they must fire Ireland so that there is a new comfortable partnership and philosophy between GM and Coach.
    I am a Skins fan and Bruce Allen and Shanahan have taken the oldest team in the league to one of the youngest and ten of this year’s draft picks have contributed.They focused on the D this year and will focus on the O next year by adding through the draft and not free agency. Like the Fins they would like to add their franchise QB even though I like Matt Moore.
    Fisher,Gruden,or Cowher will all want to bring their own GM.

  22. He messes up the draft every year, he’s also responsible for Beck Henne Davis and Ginn all early 1 or 2nd rd picks, the only one still playing is davis and the only thing he contributes is talk.

  23. Fans are right, Ireland should be next on the chopping block.

    Seriously, the Dolphins haven’t drafted well in years.

  24. Oh my god you people are fools. The dolphins have had great drafts over the last few years. Go back as check out our draft grades, morons. This is a young team, loaded with depth and talent. Of course there have been misses, no team drafts 7 studs every year. It doesn’t happen.

    Also, please do some research. This is the problem with America in general. Everybody is IGNORANT and makes ignorant decisions. Bill Parcells was behind a lot of those bad picks that you are putting on Ireland.

    This team will be very competitive for the next 10 years. Ireland will bring in a first round QB who will compete with Moore, and we will be fighting for the top of the division thru week 17 next year. Of course, you all will probably just credit Billick, or whoever are coach is. Fools.

  25. “i3addog says:
    Dec 16, 2011 9:56 AM
    I’m willing to bet that not a single donor has given a dime to a food pantry.”

    Au contraire Mr Dog, the latest gathering featured a canned food drive thank you very much.

  26. All these people supporting Ireland appear to be oblivious. Big deal they are starters. On what? a 4-9 team? HAHAHAHA Most of them are backups on good teams!

    Dansby? Overpaid & not living up to his contract. Marshall? A headcase, TD dropping machine.
    Pouncey a top 15 pick, when his brother, who is better, went late in rd 1 the year before. Drafting a collegiate G to play C at 15?
    Not delivering on the promise for QB competition
    Reggie Bush? LOL
    Dan Thomas – can’t supplant Bush?
    Long, an obvious no brainer pick who has NOT played at an elite level this year or last year. Missed on Ryan in the process
    Burnett? Another cast off Cowboy who started 1 year & has been average this season?
    Sean Smith & Vontae Davis, them being 1 of the worst rated DB tandemns in the entire NFL as far as completion percentage?
    Kendall Langford? an average DE?

    Now that we addressed most peoples “great” finds, lets discuss the TERRIBLE ones or flop decisions, shall we?

    Letting Andre Goodman go
    Not addressing the FS or SS position at ALL
    Koa Misi?
    Philip Merling?
    Chad Henne?
    Gibril Wilson?
    E. Wilford?
    R. Torbor?
    J. Jerry?
    Marc Columbo?
    J. Smiley?
    J. Grove?

    This list is almost endless! Wake up people. Firing Sparano was half the battle. Ireland shares Tuna’s outdated vision. Things will not improve until all of his cronies are GONE!

  27. Truth of the matter, Dolphins have screwed up the past 28 drafts. Look at the first & second rounders :

    1984- Jackie Shipp/Jay Brophy
    1985- Lorenzo Hampton/George Little
    1986 – 1st and 2nd Round picks traded for Hugh Green
    1987-John Bosa/Rick Graf
    1988- Eric Kumerow/Jarvis Williams
    1989- Sammie Smith/Louis Oliver
    1990- Richmond Webb/Keith Sims
    1991- Randal Hill/Traded for Tim McKyer
    1992- Troy Vincent-Marco Coleman/Eddie Blake
    1993- O.J. McDuffie/Traded for Irving Fryar
    1994- Tim Bowens/Aubrey Beavers
    1995- Billy Milner/Andrew Greene
    1996- Daryl Gardener/Dorian Brew
    1997- Yatil Green/Sam Madison
    1998- John Avery/Pat Surtain
    1999-Traded down to take JJ Johnson/Rob Konrad
    2000- Traded for right to take Pat Surtain in 1998/Todd Wade
    2001- Jamar Fletcher/Chris Chambers
    2002- Traded for Ricky Williams/Traded for right to draft Morlon Greenwood in 2001
    2003- Traded for Ricky Williams/Eddie Moore
    2004- Vernon Carey/Traded for right to draft Wade Smith in 2003
    2005- Ronnie Brown/Traded for A.J. Feeley
    2006- Jason Allen/Matt Roth
    2007- Ted Ginn/John Beck
    2008- Jake Long/Phillip Merling-Chad Henne
    2009-Vontae Davis/Pat White-Sean Smith
    2010- Jared Odrick/Koa Misi
    2011- Mike Pouncey/Daniel Thomas

    Can we sue? I mean that’s 28 years of 1st and 2nd round picks. None will ever be considered Hall of Fame candidates (maybe Jake Long, we’ll see). Long and Richmaond Webb were perennial pro bowlers. A couple good players sprinkled in here and there. That’s it. In TWENTY_EIGHT FREAKING FRACKING YEARS!!!!! AAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHHHH!@!!!!!!!!!!!

    I’m going to jump off a building now.

  28. Where do I start with responding to all of this ignorance?

    @kane337

    Pat White was entirely Parcells—against Irelands wishes. This is well documented.

    @cdngatorfan

    Ireland has drafted pretty well. It is tough to overcome so many prior bad qb picks. He inherited an awful team, but this year, with full control, he did well. Which QB should he have drafted? Seriously? He did is best to fix the OL and RB situation. He got a franchise Center and a good power back. You can’t build a team in one or two years, normally. When you do draft, the later rounds are usually developmental. We have a good SS and the FS position seemed horrid, but look, the guy who played, Jones seemed horrible, but after being the backup through camp and not getting the snaps, Clemons is injured and after a couple of months becomes pretty decent. You gotta let these kids develop. This is a young team. You can’t just go draft Wilfork or Ngata, he has to be there.

    TE and QB and RT have to be draft priorities this year.

    @jpb12

    Ireland was not even a Fins employee when Beck and Gnn were drafted. However Ginn should have been kept as a returner.

    @jouvernile

    Beck and Ginn were not Ireland picks. They were when Cam Cameron was coach. Henne was playing halfway decent to start the season, but yeah, he is gone. Davis is a becoming a shut down corner. Once he got healthy this defense turned around. Any true football student can see this.

  29. dolphins1121

    Hope you don’t really think Ireland is responsible for that entire defense. Even Ross had to put Ireland in his place, told him not to pull the trigger on another average at best QB.

    Ireland only added a couple of those pieces, and he is as two faced as they come.

    Who are you to decide the merit of a fan? Sad and pathetic. Especially when you have no clue who built this team, that I remind you, is 4-9.

  30. You guys on here who think Ireland is doing a good job are absolutely comical. He’s the classic gutless, brown nosed, “yes man” that is the complete opposite of what a franchise needs when dealing with an owner as clueless as Ross. This guy is the complete opposite of a leader and has only made a name for himself by kissing up to his superiors including Bill Parcells. Sure, you can point out talented players that have come to Miami since he has been here, but don’t act like it’s hard to get players when you make players like Dansby (zero career pro bowl appearances) the second highest paid inside LB in the league. Furthermore, let’s not forget that the Fins are looking at their 3rd losing season in a row with this guy at GM, with each year getting progressively worse. We’re talking about the same GM who hired a guy who previously coordinated the Browns worst ranked offense the year before to implement his new “explosive offense.” Get a clue.

  31. Passed on Dez Bryant (Also asking his mother if she was a *you know*)….to take Jared Odrick. Our fifth decent Defensive End in a 3-4 scheme. No offensive playmakers and a complete diregard to address the QB position.

  32. Saying how many starters Ireland has drafted is relative to the talent level of the others on the team! Depth? Are you kidding me? Look at the O-Line depth! Where is it? Look at the Tight End Depth? Where is that? Sure they have a D-Line but who is signed past this year? Where is the Q-Back Depth?

    What is going to happen when a really good coach passes on the Fins because of Irelands self imposed reputation of stabbing his head coach in the back? That is what is out there!

    If the talent is as good as some say, the the firing of Ireland in order to get a good coach to sign, will not be an issue because ‘Ireland’ has already stocked up on talent!

    Get real people, a overhaul is needed from the top down!

  33. n0hopeleft says: Dec 16, 2011 10:58 AM

    eaglesfanalways says:
    Dec 16, 2011 9:57 AM
    And if this were a story about Eagles fans doing this, there would surely be an editorial comment about how foolish we are…

    ________________________________

    You paid Steve Smith more than DeSean Jackson.
    I mean, what more confirmation are you looking for that you are the laughing stock of the NFL?

    Get a clue before you feel sorry for your own team.

    ——————————————–

    So because Jackson is in the last year of his deal, it was dumb to pay guy who caught 107 passes in 2009 $2M? That makes sense, clearly you should pay your players every year based on their production the previous year. Are the Ravens (Rice), Texans (Foster), Bears (Forte) dumb for not giving new deals yet to their stars? Also, did the Dolphins pay $8M to a running back who never ran for 1,000 yards and then not throw him the ball even though his best quality is running in the open field?

  34. The coach shouldn’t listen, but the owner might want to if he wants to fill the stadium. We fans want something to be optimistic about, and retaining a GM who can’t seem to address major needs (i.e. finding a QB) and will scare off other coaches due to his backstabbing does not give us optimism. Nor does hiring Carl Peterson.
    By the way, I love the picture PFT!!

  35. “Now, who did he go get for us:
    Dan Thomas-
    Reggie
    Dansby
    Burnett
    Pouncey
    Marshall
    Davis
    Smith
    Long
    ALL STARTERS”

    7-9, 7-9, 4-9

    ya we are so lucky to have these guys!!

  36. whomever is listing sean smith as a good draft pick is a complete moron. have you not watched a game in the past two years? my 95 year old grandma with a hip replacement could cover better than smith does. and good free agent signings???? all the dolphins do is pick up dallas’ crappy leftovers( the only decent dallas pick up has been fasano but even a blind mouse gets lucky sometimes). the only thing ireland did good in FA is signing Bush to such a short contract. He must go and go ASAP if not sooner.

  37. If they listen to a bunch of fans on who they should fire then they may as well just start making all of their decisions by internet fan voting.

    Should we fire Ireland? Click yes or no.

  38. Plenty of valid reasons Ireland should go beyond finally ridding Davie of the stench of Tuna, but the Dez Bryant episode isn’t one of them.

    Say you’re interviewing someone who the league has already red flagged on account of worrisome bad home influences who states matter of fact that his felon crack addict mama worked for his dad who just happened to be a pimp. After being led down that conversational path voluntarily, you’re really gonna respond by inquiring whether she was the corporate accountant? Come on now!

  39. dolphins1121 says: Dec 16, 2011 10:21 AM

    “Any “true” Dolphins fan will tell you that Jeff Ireland has done a great job as the Dolphins GM. All the other negative comments are coming from complete morons. Fair weather fans. That’s it.”

    Wouldn’t the Dolphins need fair weather to have fair weather fans?

  40. dolphins1121 says: Dec 16, 2011 11:40 AM

    “Also, please do some research. This is the problem with America in general. Everybody is IGNORANT and makes ignorant decisions.”

    I don’t care for your stereotyping, which is a sign of the lazy mind.

    Go Dolphins!

  41. I’m not the biggest Ireland fan, but let’s be realistic… Ross is an idiot. Who do you think Ross will replace Ireland with? I’ll give you a hint, his name starts with a “P” and ends with a “eterson”. Be careful what you wish for.

  42. That’s assuming, like a lot of Fins fans, that the pilot decides to show up and not have something better to do that Sunday.

    Is this the same organzing crew that was chanting Orton’s name 3 months ago?

  43. With about 68 comments no one has stated the truth, that is all that has been said don’t mean crap, unless some of you guys can come up with a little over 1 Billion bucks Mr. Ross will make the decisions, we don’t have to like them, but he is the owner and you can cry all the way to hell and back, it is what it is and there is nothing you can do about it, even if you had the money he may not want to sell. Bill

  44. OK FOR THOSE OF YOU HATING ON IRELAND’S PICKS SEAN SMITH AND VONTAE DAVIS, here are some numbers for you, courtesy of Pro Football Focus:

    Top 20 Cornerbacks, Lowest Times Thrown At per Coverage Snaps
    Sean Smith, #2
    Vontae Davis, #10

    Top 20 Cornerbacks, Receptions Allowed per Coverage Snaps
    Sean Smith, #4
    Vontae Davis, #20

    Go figure, real numbers, actual facts, to back up my claims. I’m. OT calling this tandem the new Sam Madison and Patrick Surtain. But they are very good at what they do.

  45. Best thing about all this is that it is now getting NATIONAL attention and bringing shame to one Steve Ross. Only fair since he continues to bring shame to this once-proud Dolphin franchise. Freedom of speech and expression at its finest.

  46. Do you like our young defense? Hm? Do you like our depth? Do you like Vontae Davis, Sean Smith, Kendall Langford, Paul Solia, Karlos Dansby, The removal of Channing Crowder and then replacing him with Kevin Burnett, Jimmy Wilson…… Do you like these players? This defense that will be solid for years to come…. Yeah, I thought so. Guess who brought them in? Jeff Ireland.

    How about our offense? Let’s see, Brandon Marshal, Reggie Bush, Matt Moore (you remember when everybody complained that Ireland was a moron because he brought in Moore instead of Orton? Yeah that was pretty stupid, huh?), Jake Long, Mike Pouncy….
    _______
    @dolphins1121

    dude, love your enthusiasm for your team but you’re looking at things from a certain vantage point that i don’t get. some of the players you mentioned, you got the story right. a lot of them you’re wrong on:

    – davis & smith at corner: didn’t vontae go on record this year and say that he and smith were the best starting duo in the league? between he and smith, they have both shown flashes of strong play but only flashes. they’re not consistent players yet.

    – dansby and burnette: not a fins fan but i’ve seen a lot of their games and both of these guys can go through long stretches before the announcer calls their names. dansby was great in arizona and burnette was solid in san diego, i haven’t seem the same consistency in miami.

    – brandon marshall: i was huge fan of this guy in denver but he seems distracted in miami. too many drops and too many weird plays. i watched a game that he played against the jets when he literally ran himself out of bounds. no one touched him, he simply ran out of bounds on his own rather than score 6.

    – reggie bush: by reggie’s standards, he’s having a great year. but is it worth trading for a guy that was going to be released anyways by new orleans? ireland traded away a pick and gave away what was arguably one of the best special team players in the afc last year.

    – pouncey: i like the way he plays but for some reason, there are times when he looks vastly inferior to his brother.

    your record is who you are. ireland built this team and he really wouldn’t be around in the future if not for the fact ross has no one better to replace him with.

    it’s too bad, miami is such a great sporting city. they deserve better than this…

  47. You have to remember, this past year was Ireland’s FIRST shot at it by himself. While he certainly was part of other moves in the past, the decisions were shared with parcells. Give the man more time. I am very satisfied with the talent he has brought in this far.

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