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Most Tebow opponents still don’t believe

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Michael Silver of Yahoo! Sports joined PFT Live Thursday to talk about a variety of NFL topics, which means . . . Tebow Tebow Tebow Tebowed Tebowing Tebowtastically.

Silver brought a unique angle we haven’t heard before. He’s spoken to a lot of Tebow’s vanquished opponents, and they still aren’t fully buying into the phenomenon.

“I definitely hear some begrudging wows” Silver said, “but absolutely the vast, vast majority of players and coaches in this league, especially the ones that have played him, would still say this is ridiculous. [They say] the kid is bad, he’s not good at this, it makes no sense to me, I don’t understand why opponents keep handing him the opportunity to do this, it won’t last, and it’s not sustainable.”

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89 Responses to “Most Tebow opponents still don’t believe”
  1. waxthat says: Dec 16, 2011 9:34 AM

    of course they dont. they are his OPPONENTS. he could walk on water and they wouldnt believe it was real.

    go get em’ tiger! uhh..i mean tebow!

  2. theslex says: Dec 16, 2011 9:35 AM

    Most rational NFL fans still don’t “believe”.

  3. ozierdisaster3335 says: Dec 16, 2011 9:35 AM

    Just let him him play football

  4. hittfamily says: Dec 16, 2011 9:40 AM

    Christofer Hitchens died today, so their is one less believer in the world. Maybe the Rapture occurred, and he was the only one called up.

  5. musiccitymiracle says: Dec 16, 2011 9:42 AM

    That’s why its a miracle

  6. whyalwaysthehate says: Dec 16, 2011 9:44 AM

    I believe “vanquished” says it all.

  7. derekjetersmansion says: Dec 16, 2011 9:45 AM

    You need to start fast against him or he starts believing.

  8. ampats says: Dec 16, 2011 9:45 AM

    Back to reality come Sunday Night Bronco fans and Skip Bayless. Brady is going to light up the Broncos depleted secondary.

  9. xxshookonexx says: Dec 16, 2011 9:48 AM

    They all believe in Satan (aka Favre)

  10. pdmjr says: Dec 16, 2011 9:51 AM

    hittfamily says:
    Dec 16, 2011 9:40 AM
    Christofer Hitchens died today, so their is one less believer in the world. Maybe the Rapture occurred, and he was the only one called up.

    Hitchens was an atheist. I doubt that he would be called UP

  11. twitter:Chapman_Jamie says: Dec 16, 2011 9:52 AM

    I happen to agree here but until someone stops him and proves that it can’t work, one has to believe it is working and will continue to work. And not just the one loss variety but it will require a consistent losing team to prove the “haters” right.

  12. 6kings says: Dec 16, 2011 9:52 AM

    Tebow has turned the NFL on its ear. I love it. He has made all the experts eat the vomit they spew. He has disturbed all those who don’t understand his faith. He is walking the walk, and not talking the talk.

    He is getting it done and giving the glory to God. Amen. Hallelujah. Peace on Earth.

  13. i3addog says: Dec 16, 2011 9:52 AM

    ” Most Tebow opponents still don’t believe. ”

    Heathens, change your ways or you will be left behind.

    Oh wait, my bad. I thought you meant they didn’t believe in the old watchmaker in the sky.

  14. silvernblackpa says: Dec 16, 2011 9:57 AM

    Didn’t we all have this same argument about Vince Young 4 or 5 years ago.

    One side: “All he does is win!”

    other side: “He’s still not a good QB. Running skills can only make up for lack of accuracy for so long.”

    Young is now where Tebow will be in year 5 or 6: a nice, solid backup. (That may be the nicest thing I’ve ever said about him)

    It seems to me the Broncos are the newest incarnation of the “Cardiac Kids”…that team that emerges every so often and defies all logic to routinely pull games out at the end. See: The Indianapolis Colts from 1995-1996, led by Jim Harbaugh who earned the nickname “Captain Comeback”. But it eventually falls apart. See: The 1997 Indianapolis Colts

  15. njhitman says: Dec 16, 2011 9:59 AM

    Wait till he faces a real defense like Pitt or the Ravens then lets talk . I know he beat the Nets I mean the Jets but their D S____KS and the Bears which their D is ranked 20th . So he plays a real team then ask me about him

  16. profootballgossip says: Dec 16, 2011 10:00 AM

    This whole thing is so stupid. There’s nothing to “believe” in. He’s 7-1. That’s a fact. Faith isn’t necessary.

    “It’s unsustainable” is not valid criticism. Everything is unsustainable. Tom Brady is unsustainable. Eventually, he’ll get old and retire.

    There’s nothing about Tebow that needs to be “figured out”. There’s no gimmick. He’s just a really clutch player. He’s always going to be a really clutch player. There’s nothing about it that isn’t sustainable.

    Saying 7-1 is unsustainable is beyond stupid. Obviously he isn’t going to win 88% of his starts for the rest of his career — of course not. But the kid’s a winner and makes big plays when he needs to. That’s sustainable.

  17. weepingjebus says: Dec 16, 2011 10:04 AM

    He may not win the way you want him to win, but nobody who peeled off that game winning TD run against the Jets (who had 8 in the box) is bad at football. What we should really be worried about is that he will actually find that 6th gear sometime before the end of the 4th quarter, and then watch out.

  18. rmm9090 says: Dec 16, 2011 10:14 AM

    Oh, I believe all right!
    I believe TeBLOWs.

    Let’s see how much the TeBLOWERs believe after he gets his clock cleaned a few times like other infamous “running” qbs, like Vick for instance…

  19. S says: Dec 16, 2011 10:15 AM

    Tebow fans aren’t rational. When he loses it will because the Broncos “set him up to fail.”

  20. boombabymac says: Dec 16, 2011 10:15 AM

    Here is a challange: name a professional football player, past or present, – any position – who was slammed by the scouts, press, fellow players or the public; yet overcame all the negatives to have a successfull career and/or were an inspiration to those around them.

  21. johnnythek1 says: Dec 16, 2011 10:15 AM

    Michael Silver has been anti-Tebow from the start and is just like the rest of the talking heads like Prisco and Hodge who are desperately trying to defend their positions in the face of unexplainable results.

    I don’t know if Tebow is going to succeed long term or not. I do however wish that the great “wise” scribes at least admit the possibility that Tebow, like any other young quarterback, could improve with experience.

  22. 2difshoe says: Dec 16, 2011 10:16 AM

    ampats says:
    Dec 16, 2011 9:45 AM
    Back to reality come Sunday Night Bronco fans and Skip Bayless. Brady is going to light up the Broncos depleted secondary.

    ==================================

    That’s what we thought here in Chicago too ! You know how that turned out.

    It’s destiny, sorry Pats fan, Tebow, get ready to be shocked the outcome from Sunday night…..many have been and you will too !

  23. bspurloc says: Dec 16, 2011 10:17 AM

    .
    his accuracy is so BAD that he has a massive 2 INT in 8 starts for a rookie that is disgusting…..

    But but he has way less attempts so that is invalid cept for the fact that he has 8 wins and therefore 100% did not need to increase those attempts.

    his accuracy is SO BAD that he almost hit a 150% qb rating…… bet people would have bet their wives away he couldnt get over 100….. specially against DUH BEARS!

  24. ravensfan4life52 says: Dec 16, 2011 10:18 AM

    I believe in the Broncos D, I believe in Willis McGahee, I believe in their kicker, I believe in their coach, but I don’t believe in Tebow. The Broncos have gone 7-1 due to many things. I’m not going to believe in a QB with a completion percentage of less than 50% and just a little over 1000 yards in 8 games.

  25. realitypolice says: Dec 16, 2011 10:18 AM

    That’s because they watch game tape instead of listening to breathless praise from talking heads.

  26. sj39 says: Dec 16, 2011 10:20 AM

    Watcha gonna do, when Tebowmania runs wild on you?!

  27. kwgator says: Dec 16, 2011 10:20 AM

    Who cares if they don’t believe, his teammates do!!!

    7-1 as a starter … Deal with it!

  28. nfloracle says: Dec 16, 2011 10:21 AM

    They had Tebow miked up in this week’s Inside the NFL on Showtime, and I couldn’t believe the way he was signing religious songs and proclaiming “Our God is a mighty God” and pointing to the heavens with his index fingers.

    Before hearing him miked up, I thought this young man was a little cracked where religion was concerned, but now I’m sure of it. I’d love to hear everything he said for the entire game. That would really be something to listen to. Whoa!

    Some people wind up in institutions for acting the way he does.

    Very, very weird.

  29. finsfan71 says: Dec 16, 2011 10:21 AM

    It is a GD mystery of life how the Broncos keep winning with Tebow. But for those who are intent on knocking him, as well as those who are intent on annointing him, time will sort everything out.

  30. neuteronomy says: Dec 16, 2011 10:23 AM

    Tebow is only as sustainable as the wildcat. First exposure, it blows up its opponents, but by next year the NFL will have remembered how to play against lame college gimmicks, and by next December we’ll all be saying “Hey, whatever happened to Tebow?” and finding some other bandwagon to harp about.

  31. stevec626 says: Dec 16, 2011 10:25 AM

    Definition of a qb in the dictionary:person who lined up behind the center and leads the offense..I think that sums it up..other players hate on him cuz he’s all you see on Espn n that is partly the medias fault but at the end of the day the only stay that matters is W-L

  32. ravensandtigers says: Dec 16, 2011 10:29 AM

    Tebow has been winning, but everyone seems to forget how well Denver’s Defense has been playing during this time. Granted Tebow style of play allows them to control the clock, run time, and give the defense more time on the sidelines. Regardless, Denver’s Defense is the reason why Tebow is on a winning streak

  33. fittytuckin says: Dec 16, 2011 10:30 AM

    @profootballgossip

    Yeah, ask Vince Young about that

  34. dmartin17 says: Dec 16, 2011 10:33 AM

    Too bad Pat White didn’t get the same benefit of the doubt Tebow is getting.

    (Ya, I just played the race card!)

  35. ranksarot says: Dec 16, 2011 10:34 AM

    “Young is now where Tebow will be in year 5 or 6: a nice, solid backup. (That may be the nicest thing I’ve ever said about him)”

    There is one key difference. Young went crazy in a bad way. Tebow may be crazy, but it’s in a good way.

  36. tatum064 says: Dec 16, 2011 10:37 AM

    Keep him in the pocket. Make him throw in between the hashes, don’t let him get inside.

    Basically, the Bears figured it out, but were so horrible on offense, they couldnt extend the lead. Detroit could, and pretty much annhilated him. Every other team folded in the fourth quarter, and the Broncos have only won by 4 or 3 in 6 of their 7 wins – but they did put up over 30 against a losing Viking team.

    New England SHOULD be able to bring them to reality and end this, but Brady showed weakness yelling at his receivers after an interception – he needs to can the perfectionist act, and simply compete. This could be a tougher game than a lot of people think because New England came out very slow v. the Chiefs, and all the Broncos need do is stay close.

  37. tatum064 says: Dec 16, 2011 10:39 AM

    ampats says:
    Dec 16, 2011 9:45 AM
    Back to reality come Sunday Night Bronco fans and Skip Bayless. Brady is going to light up the Broncos depleted secondary.

    =====================

    This is one incident where they will attempt to run up the score, but they should be careful, a team with nothing to lose will think nothing of launching right into Tom Brady’s legs from the blindside….Von Miller will be bringing heat off the edge, Volmer and Light/Solder better be on their “A” game

  38. savagenation2011 says: Dec 16, 2011 10:40 AM

    Keep hating haters. ‘preciate it

  39. savagenation2011 says: Dec 16, 2011 10:42 AM

    njhitman says: Dec 16, 2011 9:59 AM

    Wait till he faces a real defense like Pitt or the Ravens then lets talk . I know he beat the Nets I mean the Jets but their D S____KS and the Bears which their D is ranked 20th . So he plays a real team then ask me about him

    Ridiculous.

    So Aaron Rodgers sucks because the Packers havent played the Steelers or Ravens?

  40. trollhammer20 says: Dec 16, 2011 10:42 AM

    Really, really obscure comment here:

    If you know the “Badger Song” (youtube it if you don’t….or not, it’s kind of annoying), replace “Badger” with “Brett Favre” and “mushroom” with “Tebow”, and you have a complete summary of the NFL for the past five years.

  41. Slim Charles says: Dec 16, 2011 10:50 AM

    Tebow’s success is sustainable, until he gets popped for steroids or “horseplay” with those 3rd world kids he was playing doctor with.

  42. rooneyruleblues says: Dec 16, 2011 10:52 AM

    It is 100% not sustainable. Remember the wildcat? Where is that, what happened? The NFL adapted and it is no longer effective. The option will go down the same exact way. Once this guy is made to be a pocket passer he will show his true colors.

    Best thing for the Chargers, Chiefs, and Raiders will be for the Broncos to keep this guy. Let the Denver fans pressure Elway into giving this guy another chance next year. Because it is all going to come down like a house of cards. McDaniels set that franchise back many many years. Now the false prophet is going to set them back even further with his smoke and mirrors.

    Merry Christmas Denver enjoy it while it lasts.

  43. n0hopeleft says: Dec 16, 2011 10:53 AM

    Then his opponents are retarded. The dude beat good defenses when it mattered, that’s his job.

    Why on earth would you take him lightly?

  44. jdmp86 says: Dec 16, 2011 10:53 AM

    probably cause his completion percentage is 48.5

  45. imsmarterthanyou says: Dec 16, 2011 10:58 AM

    njhitman says:
    Dec 16, 2011 9:59 AM
    Wait till he faces a real defense like Pitt or the Ravens then lets talk . I know he beat the Nets I mean the Jets but their D S____KS and the Bears which their D is ranked 20th . So he plays a real team then ask me about him

    ——————————–

    Everyone knows that the “ranking” of a D doesn’t tell the whole story. The Jags are ranked 4th. The Bears gave that game away with sh*t play calling down the stretch. The kid didn’t put points on the board till 2:08 was left on the clock. Teams have been giving him games down the stretch, and to his credit, he’s taking them.

  46. golonger says: Dec 16, 2011 10:58 AM

    What is there to believe? That the Broncos are winning with a defense playing great and a lot of luck. That is the extent of it. Tebow is a cog in the system. I didn’t see people heralding Dilfer or Brad Johnson when their teams were winning. Not saying the Broncos defense is as good as either of those units but the Broncos aren’t winning a SB either).

    Tebow deserves some credit sure….he is making some plays BUT he is also part of the reason why the Broncos have had to win 3 games in overtime vs. just winning straight up.

    Sorry people, he just isn’t that good. He ISN’T improving as many say he is. He is just bad and a lot of the things he needs improvement on is NEVER going to happen. There is a reason some QBs are terminal 2nd or 3rd string folks. Not everyone gets better with time, especially when one reaches the NFL

    Sorry Tebow fans…..

  47. hwatt says: Dec 16, 2011 11:00 AM

    “they are who we thought they were!… if you want to crown him, then crown his –… we let him off the hook!” -tebowed opponents

  48. scomibord says: Dec 16, 2011 11:03 AM

    Call me a hater, or a heathen, if you will; sticks and stones, brother. Just how far did Miami go into the postseason with their gimmick, the wildcat, a few years ago? And thats all I got to say about that!

  49. dlionsfan4life says: Dec 16, 2011 11:06 AM

    Bottom, bottom line, Tebow will not be the starter next year.

  50. comeonnowguys says: Dec 16, 2011 11:06 AM

    “Tebow has turned the NFL on its ear. I love it. He has made all the experts eat the vomit they spew. He has disturbed all those who don’t understand his faith. He is walking the walk, and not talking the talk.

    He is getting it done and giving the glory to God. Amen. Hallelujah. Peace on Earth.”

    I’ve got no problem with Tebow as a person at all, or his faith. There are countless Christians across the NFL. Oh yeah, I’m a Christian as well.

    You’re the one letting your views on religion influence your football opinions. Which is fine, you’re entitled, just stop saying you’re being objective and the other side is influence by off-the-field issues.

    Are you going to tell me that Tebow’s more deserving of the Christians on the other side of the field?

    You’re doing no-one–not Tebow, not Bronco fans, not Christians–any good. You are just using the success of the Denver Broncos to validate your faith.

    If the Bears running back doesn’t run out of bounds, and his kicker doesn’t kick a 59-yard field goal in the closing seconds the craziness of this past week doesn’t happen. It’s that simple. Thirteen points.

  51. eknirb says: Dec 16, 2011 11:08 AM

    it’s all about W’s. I’m in the Bay Area and I’d have him here with the Niners in a flat second. TT or Alex Smith. Hmmm.

  52. hendawg21 says: Dec 16, 2011 11:11 AM

    Oh please spare us all this Tebow crap…the only reason they beat the Bears

    1. Cutler didn’t play and the offense sucked
    2. The Bear defense totally changed the way they were playing went to a prevent giving up big chunks of yards.

    And can we please leave god out of football??? I mean it’s ok to say he blessed you with your talents and all, but to think he takes sides and determines the outcome of games for any particular person is downright ignorant, I mean really for all the sins the Steelers and Cowboys have committed they should have a record like the Colts…

  53. profootballgossip says: Dec 16, 2011 11:13 AM

    “It is 100% not sustainable. Remember the wildcat? Where is that, what happened? The NFL adapted and it is no longer effective. The option will go down the same exact way. Once this guy is made to be a pocket passer he will show his true colors.”

    Hi, guy that doesn’t watch Broncos games.

    Pop quiz: how many times have the Broncos run the option in the past two games?

    Answer: 4 times against Chicago, 7 times against Minnesota.

    Oh noez, the league will figure it out! Derp. They’ve gained like 40 yards combined in the past two games off the option. They run it less than Carolina.

  54. nyfcat says: Dec 16, 2011 11:13 AM

    I heard the same nonsense about Trent Dilfer, Shaun King, Damon Huard, Vince Young, Kyle Orton (in CHI), Kerry Collins (in TEN)…

    HE JUST WINS. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.

    Yep, until their running games and D weaken and they are expected to, you know, make NFL throws.

    The Raiders game is my favorite. Broncos are down 24-14 in the middle of the 3rd Quarter. Tebow doesn’t throw a pass the rest of the game, and the Broncos win 38-21 because of an INT returned for TD, PR for TD by Royal, and 60-yd run by McGahee. Headline after the game? “TEBOW: HOW DOES HE DO IT?” Haha!

  55. purpleisreallypinkyouknow says: Dec 16, 2011 11:14 AM

    What will get him is the same thing that got Vick….(no, not the FBI.) The injury bug.

    No NFL QB can keep on getting pi$$-pounded taking hits while running with the ball. Even the big guys are getting pasted here and there, and you can book it that Tebow and Cam Newton will both get ribs cracked any day here too.

  56. stopthehate15bowdown says: Dec 16, 2011 11:14 AM

    If Denver was 1-7 who would get all the blame? Tebow. He’s 7-1 so he gets most of the credit. That’s just the way it goes. Except that he’s not getting all the credit because people are bending over backwards to dis him. Dude is getting better every week so all you haters are going to have to keep eating s@#t for a long, long time.

    P.S. It seems to me that the Raiders are the newest incarnation of the 2010 Raiders. Make some noise early then back to the cellar where they belong.

  57. dasmol says: Dec 16, 2011 11:15 AM

    What phenomenon? The guy has won a few football games, that’s basically it.

    This whole Tebow thing is so media driven it’s ridiculous.

  58. profootballgossip says: Dec 16, 2011 11:22 AM

    “Yeah, ask Vince Young about that”

    You mean the guy whose head coach was afraid he was going to kill himself?

    Okay, let me rephrase. There’s nothing unsustainable about that UNLESS you also happen to have massive off-the-field concerns and lose the confidence of your coach and organization.

  59. profootballgossip says: Dec 16, 2011 11:24 AM

    “Yep, until their running games and D weaken and they are expected to, you know, make NFL throws.”

    Kind of like the time Minnesota scored 30 points on them, and he had to make throws?

    Also, lulz at people acting like Denver’s running game was good before Tebow. They were averaging 93.3 yards rushing per game before Tebow took over. Since then, they’re averaging 208 per game.

    Logic is poor on these boards. Broncos go 4-12 last year, start this year 1-4, Tebow gets inserted and goes 7-1, and herp derp it’s because the team is so great that they win despite him.

  60. castleofcheese says: Dec 16, 2011 11:30 AM

    He’s really not very good.

  61. savagenation2011 says: Dec 16, 2011 11:32 AM

    jdmp86 says: Dec 16, 2011 10:53 AM

    probably cause his completion percentage is 48.5

    and statistics are for losers…..

  62. hendawg21 says: Dec 16, 2011 11:34 AM

    Guess since you know who is retired for the time being you had to create a part deux with Bro Tim playing the part you folks in the media really miss writing about you know who…hint his last name begins with an “F” ends with an “E”. Can any writer go out and get a real football story and quit patronizing Bro Tim as if he’s the second coming of Christ???

  63. savagenation2011 says: Dec 16, 2011 11:35 AM

    dlionsfan4life says: Dec 16, 2011 11:06 AM

    Bottom, bottom line, Tebow will not be the starter next year.

    Put your money where your mouth is or come on here next year and eat a nice dish of crow

  64. ravensandtigers says: Dec 16, 2011 11:37 AM

    Bronco fans… Good luck signing (and resigning) offensive playmakers. Nobody will want to sign with the Broncos and play with Tebow. They are not going to get the catches, yards, and stats they would somewhere else… and like it or not, most WR and RBs are all divas and want to ball.

  65. comeonnowguys says: Dec 16, 2011 11:54 AM

    “Also, lulz at people acting like Denver’s running game was good before Tebow. They were averaging 93.3 yards rushing per game before Tebow took over. Since then, they’re averaging 208 per game.

    Logic is poor on these boards. ”

    Indeed it is.

    Rushing Attempts
    Before Tebow: 24
    After Tebow: 40

    Oh wait, did you mean everyone else?

  66. hendawg21 says: Dec 16, 2011 11:57 AM

    oh yeah forgot about that Marion Barber gaff…now you see why he’s no longer with the Cowboys…Romo is enough

    And do you really think let’s say that game had been in Chicago or any other outdoor stadium that 59 yard field goal would’ve been good? I think it’s possible but then again without that thin air in Denver we won’t know will we…

  67. gisellichek says: Dec 16, 2011 12:02 PM

    Prediction:

    Pats 45 -24

    Pats D plays 3 quarters of shutdown football.
    Score TD on a pick six. (give up 3 TDs forth quarter TDs, all in garbage time)

    Julian Edelman returns a Punt for a TD
    Brady: 27-35, 415 yards 4 TDs
    Branch has a HUGE DAY (8 for 114 yards 2 TDs)!!!

    John Fox has a terrible record against BB head to head. I don’t want to disrespect the God crowd but this football … not Sunday Mass.

  68. steelwheeler says: Dec 16, 2011 12:05 PM

    Yeah, and i still don’t believe the Ravens are that good, yet here they are 10-3 and have beaten my Steelers twice this year.
    It is what it is, the records and wins don’t lie. Fact is Tebow is a professional football player and they better prepare for him just like anyone else or they are gonna get burned. lol
    I can bet you Belicheck is taking him serious and preparing for him as such.

  69. crashdog says: Dec 16, 2011 12:15 PM

    The vast majority of Tebow’s opponents will be watching that first week playoff game in Denver from their couch. Go ahead, keep hating

  70. rushbacker says: Dec 16, 2011 12:16 PM

    That’s fine. Most of the losers will have plenty of time to whine about it while they’re watching Denver in the playoffs. Sustain that.

  71. rdrs68 says: Dec 16, 2011 12:24 PM

    one would think that people here in the mile high city live boring and miserable lives the way they are going gaga over this rookie player and simple tool for evangelicals.

  72. briscocountyjr says: Dec 16, 2011 12:27 PM

    As a Bronco fan I am laughing at all the media conflict along with fans/non-fan reaction. Tebow’s game has been a great lift to watching the Broncos since their mediocre start.

    Tebow specifically in all this media storm is amusing from the standpoint that the argument is based between opposing intellect and faith positions. Intellectually when we look to project what we think will be the outcome may not be the case. From the perspective of someone who doesn’t know football and is strictly a Tebow fan and blindly says he will win is also unreasonable about projecting the outcome as well.

    Between these perspectives it seems that this whole situation from analysts to filmroom to prepare for Tebow is outstanding for the game. I can’t say what will happen for Tebow going forward (who can?) but I can see this team situation is getting the most out of both Tebow and the team synergy as he learns on the job. We are seeing human potential trumping strict tradition and this is FANTASTIC for the game. I’m looking forward to the evolution of the coaching while pundits long-held (over-valued?) “knowledge” of the game is up-ended.

  73. yevrag3535 says: Dec 16, 2011 12:27 PM

    Write a real story for once….

  74. rc33 says: Dec 16, 2011 12:31 PM

    S says: Dec 16, 2011 10:15 AM

    Tebow fans aren’t rational. When he loses it will because the Broncos “set him up to fail.
    ————————————————-
    The media is genuinely rooting for him to fail and that’s why they’re hyping him up so much.
    It has almost nothing to do with his football playing abilities.
    They look at anyone of faith as if they have 3 heads.

  75. havok82 says: Dec 16, 2011 12:35 PM

    It will be curious to see if he plays a team that does not shift into a prevent look will alter his 4th quarter results. It seems to me that the largest reason for success is simply that teams are shifting out of what has handcuffed that offense to a prevent/clock kill defense. I have never liked it or truly understood it as a fan. If you are stepping on someone’s throat, make sure they are unconscious when you lift that foot off them. Don’t let up because they “seem” to be done.

    Look at how the Patriots let the Colts back in a game they had no business being in after they took their foot off the gas. 31-3 turned into 31-24 because they decided not to keep their foot on the gas. The Saints did and ran it up to 62-7.

  76. shotgungrampa says: Dec 16, 2011 12:52 PM

    ravensfan4life52 says:Dec 16, 2011 10:18 AMI believe in the Broncos D, I believe in Willis McGahee, I believe in their kicker, I believe in their coach, but I don’t believe in Tebow. The Broncos have gone 7-1 due to many things. I’m not going to believe in a QB with a completion percentage of less than 50% and just a little over 1000 yards in 8 games.

    Um, they were 1 and 4 before tebow. Now they are 8 and 5 with Tebow. Not following your logic.

  77. rando74 says: Dec 16, 2011 1:02 PM

    Wait till he faces a real defense like Pitt or the Ravens then lets talk . I know he beat the Nets I mean the Jets but their D S____KS and the Bears which their D is ranked 20th . So he plays a real team then ask me about him
    _______________________________
    Nobodys going to ask you because no one cares what you think.

    Bottom line, what else are they gonna say. Thats the concsensus areound the league so its not like some opponeent he beat is gonna say “oh ya he’s great”. ITs easieer to jsut say “he still sucks”

  78. fwippel says: Dec 16, 2011 1:08 PM

    No disrespect to Tebow, but it’s the stingy Denver defense that deserves the most credit for this winning streak. Tebow has played better than expected in the clutch, no question. But he is NOT the only reason for the winning streak.

    I’m starting to think there is an ulterior motive behind Tebow getting all this attention. As soon as he has a bad game, or chokes in the clutch, these media people will be all over him proclaiming that “The aura of Tebow is over”. The guy isn’t going to win every game, but because of the attention he’s getting, as soon as he loses one, the media will pounce.

  79. armoderate says: Dec 16, 2011 1:09 PM

    Why is it that Rosenthal, Michael “David” Smith, and Silver have a thing against Tebow to the point that they can’t report on anything, but him and it’s all negative? I don’t think it would matter what he does in the future. He could win 10 straight Super Bowls and they would still find something negative to say. He’s a 24 year old wet behind the ears QB who’s doing pretty good considering. Do I think he’s the second coming of Joe Montana? No. But right now at this stage in his career I’m not writing him off. And as far as other teams he’s beat, if I were them I also wouldn’t say he’s a star, but that doesn’t say much either way about the future given his experience.

  80. randomguy9999 says: Dec 16, 2011 1:10 PM

    they don’t believe because his stats stink…. they are backup numbers …. in all but one game the D won it outright by keeping the scoring so low that Teebs didn’t actually have to perform

    this week he’s going to have to put up 4TD’s to survive… and he doesn’t have the talent to do that…

  81. th56 says: Dec 16, 2011 1:19 PM

    The Broncos are winning despite Tim Tebow.
    A combination of weak opponents, the benefit of a lot of turn overs and good play by the defense is why the Broncos are winning. Bronco fans should enjoy it while they can because the Tebow show won’t last much longer and it’s only a matter of time before the Tebow mirage disappears and it won’t be pretty.

  82. pigskinswag says: Dec 16, 2011 1:21 PM

    He’s a gamer
    He’s a baller
    Playmaker
    He’s a shotcaller
    UNLEASH Tim Tebow!

  83. cfos00 says: Dec 16, 2011 1:30 PM

    Oddly enough, the QB he just replaced, Kyle Orton, had a very similar start to his career. During his rookie year, he started for the Bears and at one point won 8 straight after a 1-3 start with Grossman. Pretty much entirely in spite of him. He didn’t pass for many yards, was pretty inaccurate, and relied on his rbs to move the ball most of the time. His one plus was that he didn’t turn it over. They won with defense, a decent running team, and special teams. The defense and special teams were both particularly good.

    Any of this sounds familiar? No one was praising Neckbeard like they do Tebow. We, as Bears fans, saw what everyone else saw. The truth was a good QB wouldn’t have had to lead multiple comebacks in incredibly low scoring games because a decent QB would have already had a lead with every advantage the rest of the team was giving them. Passing against a prevent and having a defense bail you out constantly doesn’t make you good. It makes you lucky enough to be on a good team. Just like Orton, all he was doing was not screwing up too badly. Give Brady that defense and they’re with the Packers as Super Bowl favorites.

  84. gln9213 says: Dec 16, 2011 1:30 PM

    This isn’t about believing. Denver has had a nice run but it will end.

  85. broncobillie says: Dec 16, 2011 1:32 PM

    silvernblackpa says: Dec 16, 2011 9:57 AM

    It seems to me the Broncos are the newest incarnation of the “Cardiac Kids”…that team that emerges every so often and defies all logic to routinely pull games out at the end. See: The Indianapolis Colts from 1995-1996, led by Jim Harbaugh who earned the nickname “Captain Comeback”. But it eventually falls apart. See: The 1997 Indianapolis Colts

    —-

    Agreed, if true. What will determine the outcome is if Tebow can improve his footwork and the mental part of his game – finding the open man and picking out the matchups that favor him. That’s what Manning, Brady and Rodgers do. And what they didn’t do in the first years of their career.

    Fact: Since his start, the defense and running game have improved dramatically. Coincidence? Sure…

    Fact: Each and every game this season has seen more and more pass attempts and completions. If that’s not improvement, what is?

    Fact: the last two games showed a very significant departure from the “run Tebow” philosophy. OK, in both games he used the first 3 quarters for training camp, and when those teams went into prevent mode, he was able to pick them apart. The key is when he was given opportunities, he came up aces.

    If he grows no further your comment is valid. If, in the next year, he continues to improve, the results will become more consistent and the Harbaugh analogy will fade away.

    Time will tell. In the meantime, it’s just great fun to watch the games and then watch the media types choke on the crow they’re eating…

  86. flakazoid says: Dec 16, 2011 1:43 PM

    Unless his defense gives up an average of only 10 points a game…he will never play in a Super Bowl…much less win one.

  87. briscocountyjr says: Dec 16, 2011 3:24 PM

    Oh- I should have mentioned this in my earlier post also…

    The offense left 120 yds and a 55 yard bomb on the field… not because of the bears D, but because of an inordinate amount of drops (5-7 total).

    That would have made Tebow’s stats at around 350 yds and 2 Tds.

    Either way, this is a fun season for fans!

    Go Broncos– 11-5 until we ain’t!!

  88. tunesmith says: Dec 16, 2011 3:47 PM

    I think a lot of this is because a spread offense dictates a defense that looks like a prevent defense, but isn’t.

    Plus, switching to a spread offense late in the game means that defenses haven’t had a chance to make adjustments to it.

  89. patriotsssss says: Dec 17, 2011 7:46 PM

    You know you people know nothing about football..when you’re picking Tebow and the Broncos to win. Tebow over Brady, seriously? Brady is the real god in this football game. And who’s going to cover Welker and Gronkowski? Tebow?! Goodman and Dawkins are both hurt for the broncos. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. Patriots win easily, 38-14.

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