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When it comes to Tebow, Fox isn’t thinking about next year

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It took Broncos coach John Fox a while to warm up to the unique skills of Tim Tebow.  Even though Fox apparently has decided to ignore the niceties of the traditional quarterback position and to embrace the fact that Tebow is leading his team to victory after victory in 2011, Fox isn’t ready to anoint Tebow as the team’s quarterback for 2012.

“We get that question a lot, whether it’s John Elway or myself,” Fox told Jim Rome on Friday.  “We’re both his biggest fans.  I mean, we love him.  How would you not at 7-1?  I think right now, all our focus is, let’s get this season done.

“We love him, he’s great, we’re pulling for him, and you know, we’ll make those decisions when this season is over and not worry about next season at this point.”

That’s fine, but what does the guy need to do to show that he’s the team’s quarterback of the future?  Plenty of quarterbacks with far lower winning percentages than Tebow have locked down the year-in, year-out starting jobs with their teams.

So why not Tebow?  As quarterbacks go, the Broncos could do a hell of a lot worse, and plenty of teams would surely pounce on the opportunity to make the until-further-notice starter a guy who has won games, elevated his team, generated unprecedented excitement among the fan base, and provided an anti-Hurd role model to the youth of America.

Maybe Fox is worried that it’s all a fluke.  Or maybe he’s concerned that Tebow won’t play as well without the added motivation of constantly having to prove himself.  Regardless, Tebow provides a solid foundation around which to build the team for the next decade.

If the Broncos won’t realize that, some other team will.

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  1. smack1114 says: Dec 17, 2011 8:38 AM

    I was a critic, but he has opened my eyes on how a leader can rally his troops.

    I wish the Jags would’ve drafted him to bring some excitement to my home team.

  2. Soulman45 says: Dec 17, 2011 8:45 AM

    Frist to say
    It will be something to look forward to see, if he draft to put players around Tebow that will help him or another QB well they build the run game or the passing game.
    Build the D and the run and the QB will be Tebow.

  3. neuteronomy says: Dec 17, 2011 8:45 AM

    For the love of all things holy, PLEASE STOP! This whole site is becoming Teboring!

  4. redbullenergydrink says: Dec 17, 2011 8:49 AM

    My question is: Where was that Denver defense when Orton was quarterback?

  5. snaponrules says: Dec 17, 2011 8:50 AM

    OMG it’s horrible. The coach isn’t declaring his love for a RB who can occasionally complete a pass for next year. That’s blasphemy, run him out of town.
    The guy has played one of the easiest schedules in football and barely won. Would have lost many more if the defence doesn’t set them up for game winning field goals.

  6. j0esixpack says: Dec 17, 2011 8:51 AM

    Tebow is a FB playing QB…. and playing it well enough to win.

    But adding a real QB is only going to make the Broncos stronger and and could reshape the game if they consistently played out of the shotgun with both on the field.

  7. jdandcoke says: Dec 17, 2011 8:51 AM

    As much as i really like tebow and as much as i root for him to succeed……the bottom line is that if he doesnt progress quite a bit as a true QB, he probably wont be a starter within the next two seasons.

    i do think that this years success has probably bought tebow another season to try and refine his skills while remaining a starter.

  8. promickey says: Dec 17, 2011 8:53 AM

    The quarterbacked Tebow Broncos have not played some of the elite teams in the league. This weekend will give Fox and Elway a good look at Tebow against an elite team, the New England Patriots.

  9. mrplow3 says: Dec 17, 2011 8:53 AM

    Phi-nominal

  10. sterilizecromartie says: Dec 17, 2011 8:54 AM

    “That’s fine, but what does the guy need to do to show that he’s the team’s quarterback of the future? Plenty of quarterbacks with far lower winning percentages than Tebow have locked down the year-in, year-out starting jobs with their teams.”
    ———–
    Exactly. People were defending Blaine Gabbert to the death on a post here the other day, saying he needs another year and the Jags shouldn’t draft a QB. And Gabbert looks lost out there. But somehow, some aren’t sold on Tebow. I don’t get it.

  11. zenofobe says: Dec 17, 2011 8:59 AM

    “Maybe Fox is worried that it’s all a fluke.”

    If my job depended on miraculous 4th quarter comebacks every week, I would be, too.

    “Tebow provides a solid foundation around which to build the team…”

    Like Trent Dilfer.

    “…generated unprecedented excitement among the fan base…”

    Elway’s Super Bowl wins…*yawn*

    Tebow’s a good guy and maybe a decent quarterback someday. But Fox doesn’t (and shouldn’t) have the benefit of wearing fanboy glasses.

  12. snarkzilla says: Dec 17, 2011 9:01 AM

    This again? They’re in the playoff hunt and you want to know about next year’s depth chart. At least it’s consistent with the daily Denver QB depth chart updates earlier this year.

  13. mactank1 says: Dec 17, 2011 9:05 AM

    It’s very simple Mike. Fox and Elway BOTH realize that when opposing teams figure this offense out and how to scheme against it, just like the wildcat in Miami, the Broncos will have no chance. They know this, and they will draft a REAL QB if one is available. They might keep Tebow as an option tailback or tight end, but he is worth nothing more. I have a feeling though, that this weekend against the Pats, as Peter King said it best “Timmy is about to be TeBlowed up!”

  14. saintsly says: Dec 17, 2011 9:07 AM

    Call me crazy but I wanted my Saints to draft Tebow and let him sit behind Brees for a couple years and learn from the best. I always felt that Tebow had the tangibles to excell in the NFL. I just never thought it would be this soon.

  15. duanethomas says: Dec 17, 2011 9:08 AM

    Commit to him for next year, because that will be the true test. Their schedule will be tougher and defenses will have a off season to study the spread option. Also Tebow will have the off season to improve as a passer. Going to be very interesting.

  16. natigator says: Dec 17, 2011 9:11 AM

    IF – and its a big IF – Fox/Elway decide to run Tebow out of town they will both lose their jobs as soon as the 2012 season concludes.

    Inexplicably, Tebow has the team at 8-5 and in prime position to win the AFC West and a date with the playoffs. This is happening, with frankly a terrible team

    At RB you have broken down Willis McGahee -who was never an elite RB – whom Denver picked off the garbage heap. A top pick in Knowshown Moreno – a never was – who is promptly injured and not contributing. They trade their best WR immediately before Tebow started. The rest of the receiving corps could hardly be described as elite

    On D, it certainly looks like Von Miller will be an elite LB, and that is a credit to Elway/Fox’s first draft. They have Brian Dawkins at S, another broken down player plucked off the garbage heap. Champ Bailey is getting way up there in age. They plucked Ty Warren off that same garbage heap only to watch him get hurt

    The point is not to denigrate these players, but to point out Denver has about as much talent on the field as Jacksonville yet they are winning. How could they possibly spin a change at QB?

  17. theglap says: Dec 17, 2011 9:13 AM

    By your logic (wins = QB of the future, regardless of how the wins happened), Trent Dilfer was the QB of the future for the Ravens and Ronnie Brown was the QB of the future for the Dolphins.

    The reason they’re coaching and you’re blogging is that they most likely understand that the most improvable aspect of their 7-1 run is their QB play, and you don’t.

  18. hppykmper says: Dec 17, 2011 9:14 AM

    When the “chosen one” starts sprouting wings and wearing a halo THEN I’ll start thinking about him; but until that time – STOP WITH THE TEBOW CRAP.

  19. jerruhjones21 says: Dec 17, 2011 9:16 AM

    Because like most rational people, Fox and Mr. Ed are pretty sure this house of cards is going to fall…

    That said, fair credit to Tebow who just keeps make other teams look foolish; how he gets there doesn’t matter now but I am betting against it lasting much longer…

  20. jacksonjames4 says: Dec 17, 2011 9:17 AM

    Come on now. The only people that want this guy as their QB are the sudden Tebow NFL fans, that think they know football,that suddenly appeared . Its a pop culture thing more than anything. Hes seems a nice guy but a horrible horrible QB. Pretty soon this is going to wear thin on the team that theyre constantly bailing this guy out.

  21. b921 says: Dec 17, 2011 9:18 AM

    It’s hard to commit to Tebow long-term because he is unconventional. Everyone has their cookie cutter idea about how a QB should be and what an NFL offense should look like. This is why if we see a couple bad games from him he’ll, unfortunately, be the bad guy who is holding back the Broncos.

    He needs an organization that is willing to go all in on his type of football for several years or he needs to keep winning games week in and week out for a year or two to fully “convert” his current organization,

  22. dasmol says: Dec 17, 2011 9:18 AM

    Or maybe Fox sees this gimmick for what it is. A sub par QB, with a solid defense and a last placed schedule thats had some great luck and bounces.

    With this season still going, why would anyone in the media ask Fox who will be QB next season, other than to create controversy and drive the Tebow story for another day?

    To imply that the whole Tebow storyline is not media driven is disingenuous.

  23. elwaysbrain says: Dec 17, 2011 9:19 AM

    It’s obvious Elway/Fox don’t want him to be their franchise QB. I don’t think they’d answer the question with the same reply regarding Von Miller.

  24. nesuperfan says: Dec 17, 2011 9:20 AM

    Still only 2 INT this year. That is one of the biggest reasons he is doing so well.

  25. kindasporty says: Dec 17, 2011 9:20 AM

    Didn’t we go through this with Vince Young? Young was a “winner” in Tennessee and yet most people aren’t screaming that he didn’t get a fair chance. Young even had 7 fourth quarter comebacks during his time with the Titans. He also had a really good running game and an extraordinary defense backing him up. History repeats itself again.

  26. rdrs68 says: Dec 17, 2011 9:21 AM

    please trade T-bow so some other city can have Woody Paige and Skip Bayless and all the others who can’t hide the man crush thing.

  27. str8up12 says: Dec 17, 2011 9:22 AM

    Just like they did for Doug Flutie and Vince Young.

  28. cadub49er says: Dec 17, 2011 9:23 AM

    This

  29. rangenius says: Dec 17, 2011 9:23 AM

    I think they will let Tebow go, and sign Sam Hurd.

  30. p4ever says: Dec 17, 2011 9:29 AM

    Another hourly Tebow story. Please, could the Patriots put America out of this misery!

  31. wkinsomnia says: Dec 17, 2011 9:29 AM

    Seriously?..anything Tebow = I don’t care!!!

  32. 7pints says: Dec 17, 2011 9:31 AM

    PFT is hilarious! Love to stir the pot, huh? If Fox and Elway did come out and fully commit to Tebow for 2012, I’m sure you would say something to contradict that stance too. The Broncos are in the midst of division crown and playoff races. Can they just play this season out???

  33. max says: Dec 17, 2011 9:34 AM

    “If the Broncos won’t realize that, some other team will.”

    I just hope it isn’t the Miami Dolphins.

  34. cadub49er says: Dec 17, 2011 9:35 AM

    This story fails to address the main issue. Defense has put the Broncos in this position. Tebow plays like crap and only has a chance for heroics because the defense puts them in that spot. I’d like to see Tebow win a game convincingly without the need for heroics or beat a quality team as the favorite. The focus should be on Von Miller. Denver is screwed because Tebow has gone 7-1, has to stick with him for the future, and has won those games by just getting by. Happy with Tebow? More like uncomfortable with Tebow.

  35. jimmysee says: Dec 17, 2011 9:41 AM

    Tebow also has the benefit of a great defense that has kept him in games to give him the opportunity to win.

  36. jleo78 says: Dec 17, 2011 9:42 AM

    They should have known that b4 drafting him. I wonder where Jake Dellome ranks next to Tebow in Foxs head

  37. blackqbwhiterb says: Dec 17, 2011 9:50 AM

    Hey, Fox- if Tebow isn’t so great, I will trade you Rex Grossman, a “real” NFL passer….

  38. bhcpaul1989 says: Dec 17, 2011 9:55 AM

    Tebow provides a solid foundation around which to build the team for the next decade.

    Seriously, he’s won seven games this year! With that logic Rex Grossman would still be the quarterback of the Bears, he had one decent season. Maybe they just want to see more from him, hard to believe I know. Elway was one of the best qb’s ever and I don’t know if you noticed but Fox has been coaching for a while. It’s is possible they know what they’re doing.

  39. sfindian83 says: Dec 17, 2011 9:59 AM

    So winning percentage is the only important factor in determining a QB’s abilities? Gotcha.

  40. musiccitymiracle says: Dec 17, 2011 10:00 AM

    John Fox is a doubting Thomas. He won’t believe till he puts his finger through a Super bowl ring.

  41. fafafuey says: Dec 17, 2011 10:04 AM

    Or maybe Fix and Elway realize they dont have a chance in hell of winning super bowls with a guy who cant throw.

  42. donniebmc says: Dec 17, 2011 10:05 AM

    “anti-Hurd role model” love it..

  43. hushbrother says: Dec 17, 2011 10:05 AM

    Why not Tebow? Because obviously the Broncos have somebody a whole lot better available. All Tebow is doing is blocking the path of this superstar quarterback who’s going to step in and immediately lead them to the Super Bowl but is wasting time languishing on the bench right now. :eyeroll:

  44. mrznyc says: Dec 17, 2011 10:08 AM

    The problem with Tim Tebow is The Heisman Trophy – The NFL drafts talents to fill predetermined slots in it’s football scheme. The Schemes for all the teams are pretty much the same, which is the reason NFL games where you don’t have a rooting interest have a tendency to all look the same. Without the Heisman Tebow would probably have been drafted and turned into a tight end or something else (where he probably would have succeeded) He would not have had the chops to demand to play quarterback. BUT he had them by the shot ones and got to play quarterback and, low and behold, he’s succeeded and upset the apple cart of big time corporate sports. They are interested in profits, not in a different way of doing things. Same old, same old is what puts bread on the table in the NFL and that’s what has everyone’s pants in a knot.

  45. i3addog says: Dec 17, 2011 10:15 AM

    ” Or maybe he’s concerned that Tebow won’t play as well without the added motivation of constantly having to prove himself. ”

    Unless you’re Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady or Drew Brees , I think all the QB’s should feel the pressure to perform. If this is the case for Tebow, it’s working.

    ” Tebow provides an anti-Hurd role model to the youth of America. ”

    This is true (so far) but so did Ben whatshisburger in Pittsburgh.

    Tebow is a good kid but I doubt very much he will be a starting QB in this league for very long.

  46. cowartsh says: Dec 17, 2011 10:20 AM

    somebody will make the mistake of trying to build around him and then realize that this is a one hit wonder

  47. irishjugalo says: Dec 17, 2011 10:25 AM

    I undertand that Tebow currently commands media attention, but I’m positive your audience would pass on reading the same exact story half a dozen times. It’s starting to come off as desperate for material.

  48. realitypolice says: Dec 17, 2011 10:36 AM

    So it’s wrong to worry whether or not the model of having zero offense through three quarters and then relying on statistically improbable miracles to win games is sustainable?

    Contrary to popular belief, 8 games is actually a very SMALL sample size. There are countless examples of players, coaches or teams having ridiculous runs and then crashing back to earth. (McDaniels? Orton? Sparano? Grossman? Haley? Singletary? Fitzpatrick? Moore?)

    At one point THIS SEASON Fitzpatrick was 4-1 as a starter. And he wasn’t winning with flukey plays and boneheaded mistakes by opponents.

    John Fox has been around the block a few times. He knows what committing to players based upon small sample sizes will get you (paging Matt Moore). He watches practices and game tape all week.

    He has every right to proceed with caution and would be crazy if he didn’t.

  49. beastup22 says: Dec 17, 2011 10:37 AM

    I just came in here to say shut up about Tebow already. Enough is enough!

  50. realitypolice says: Dec 17, 2011 10:38 AM

    nesuperfan says:
    Dec 17, 2011 9:20 AM
    Still only 2 INT this year. That is one of the biggest reasons he is doing so well.
    ========================

    When you are overthrowing (or underthrowing) your recievers by 10 feet for most of the game, you tend to miss the people covering them too.

  51. hanktheking says: Dec 17, 2011 10:39 AM

    Why doesnt everyone stop wasting their time, and just ask this question when the season is over? They’re clearly not going to answer it.

  52. steelerguy says: Dec 17, 2011 10:43 AM

    Just about any head coach will tell you the NFL is a passing league. Tebow is not a passer.

    The media pukes are just trying to keep the story going, and ironically I’ve now contributed.

  53. bleed4philly says: Dec 17, 2011 10:48 AM

    1-4 before, 7-1 after. F what everybody says.

  54. ffootballontwitter says: Dec 17, 2011 10:48 AM

    Students of history might remember another QB, exactly 10 years ago, a second-year player thrust mid-season into the starting role. Widespread criticism was slowly won over by this QB’s fourth-quarter comebacks and surprising ability to rally his team. The first year was considered to be a fluke when the 1992 campaign failed to equal 1991′s results, but silenced for good by his 1993 campaign.

    Not saying these two QBs are the same (they’re not) but now, as then, it’s a lot easier to be a hater. Good thing that Tebow and Brady both thrive on disproving the naysayers.

    Just sit back and enjoy the game, fans.

  55. tatum064 says: Dec 17, 2011 10:58 AM

    Dude should just give it a rest and be glad he didn’t concede the season – he could’ve just handed it over to Brady Quinn and gone 6-10 … his season was nearly over, and Tebow might get them in as Division winners. I don’t see what the big deal is, since Fox runs the ball anyway.

    Look for him to deal a RB, get a 2nd tier QB or veteran and just ride this thing out. They will have a very measured approach….

  56. cuda1234 says: Dec 17, 2011 11:27 AM

    Still don’t understand the media’s infatuation with this guy. Both the FHSAA and NCAA had to pass “Tebow rules” to deal with his misconduct. He won one championship as a starter in college. He’s won less than a dozen games in the NFL. After about 10 starts, he’s finally tallied 1,000 yards passing. The coach who liked him enough to draft him in the first round decided he was not good enough to play. The coaching staff who inherited him decided he was not good enough to play. He throws teammates (Kyle Orton, Chris Leak) under the bus. He’s gotten Josh McDaniels, Todd Haley and Tony Sparano fired. He hires camera crews to follow him to make documentaries about himself to promote himself and his brand. He calls pressers to tell everyone how humble he is. And he doesn’t seem to be able to read defenses or make NFL throws. Other than that, I guess he IS the greatest player in the history of the game.

  57. nightwalker43 says: Dec 17, 2011 11:28 AM

    Why doesn’t anyone tell the broncos franchise to maybe focus on getting better players around Tebow. Thomas, Decker and Mcgahee. Really? Give him the Saints, Patriots or Packers offense and we’ll see how bad a QB he is.

  58. broncobillie says: Dec 17, 2011 11:37 AM

    Here’s the question nobody seems to be thinking about: is he getting better? This season, each game has more passing yards than the game before. That’s improvement in any language. If he stops improving he’s gone. If he keeps improving he’s in. No need to decide until the season ends.

    This is not rocket science.

  59. vegasbronco says: Dec 17, 2011 11:37 AM

    Kreese, Lawrense, and Brian will make the Broncos future, nothing else.
    Much luck has went into this season and help was abundant.
    Yes Brady Quinn would have them at 7-6 and at the top of AFCW. Maybe.

  60. sirfurproductions says: Dec 17, 2011 11:39 AM

    He couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat… the exposure is coming, and soon.

  61. marcuswelby70 says: Dec 17, 2011 11:39 AM

    promickey says:
    Dec 17, 2011 8:53 AM
    The quarterbacked Tebow Broncos have not played some of the elite teams in the league. This weekend will give Fox and Elway a good look at Tebow against an elite team, the New England Patriot.

    ——————————————-

    An elite offense…certainly not an elite defense.

  62. labfan30 says: Dec 17, 2011 11:49 AM

    OK, I can’t listen to this anymore:

    People, stop, I repeat, STOP comparing Tebow to Vince Young. If you know anything about football it actually hurts your case. Young never stopped winning. His career record is still over 62% wins. His problem is mental toughness, attitude and turnovers. He actually improved his completion percentage by over 10 points in his second year and has kept it there for his career. He also led his team to the playoffs his second year, and made the Pro Bowl. (yeah, it really all collapsed after 8 games, didn’t it?)If Tebow makes that type of jump next year, he’ll be a star on the field and off.

    I’m not saying he WILL be a star. Hell, I’m not saying he’ll even be an NFL QB. But I am saying you probably won’t be finding him on suicide watch, getting into fights with his teammates, talking about retirement after each season , or having his coach beg him to come back into the game after throwing an INT>

    I really don’t care if you hate Tebow or love Tebow, you can at least understand history and make a valid comparison.

  63. playitfunky says: Dec 17, 2011 11:52 AM

    People are being foolish. Anyone who knows Elway, knows he is really superstitious. No way he is going to change anything he says in the middle of a winning streak. Have any of you even played sports lol! You never change anything during a winning streak. In college I saw guys go weeks without shaving, or wearing the same undershirt, or any number of things to not end a streak. Elway not going to say Tebow the man, then risk him going on a losing streak. Go ahead though, keep asking him, but I know him personally and it isn’t going to happen.

  64. playitfunky says: Dec 17, 2011 11:58 AM

    The reason he is different then Vince Young is obvious. He’s tougher, a better person, and therefore a better leader of men. He’s also bigger, stronger, and has a higher football IQ.

  65. playitfunky says: Dec 17, 2011 11:59 AM

    Also Vince Young was called out b Fisher for not being a good leader, not working hard enough. Does that really remind you fools of Timothy Tebow, the hardest working football player ever?

  66. laeaglefan says: Dec 17, 2011 12:26 PM

    Defenses will figure out Tebow the same way that they figured out Mike Vick after his flashy start last year. The fact of the matter is that ultimately a quarterback will not succeed in the NFL if he’s not an accurate passer with a strong arm, quick release and makes good decisions with the ball. So, in that regard, Tebow still has a lot of work to do.

  67. rarson says: Dec 17, 2011 12:36 PM

    It’s really simple: everyone with an ounce of football knowledge knows that Tebow isn’t a long-term solution. That’s why nobody will commit to him.

    Now let’s all stop commenting on Tebow articles so that Mike will stop writing them.

  68. sf69ers says: Dec 17, 2011 12:39 PM

    How could you not commit to Tebow next season? The man fills up the seats in the stadium and sells jerseys. There was once a left handed scrambling QB that many considered to be a better runner than passer. He only turned into the most accurate passer of all time. Tebow reminds me a lot of an early Steve Young.

  69. illiniftw says: Dec 17, 2011 12:51 PM

    Tebow seems to be improving at passing each week. Watching him against the Bears he made some really nice throws that his receivers flat out dropped. I’d say give him one more year. It’s not like the Broncos don’t have other needs they could draft

  70. firdman7 says: Dec 17, 2011 12:58 PM

    Keep hatin, fafafuey….that’s exactly what Tebow thrives off of. He’s been winning his whole life, why should it stop at the NFL level? I bet you’re a raider fan, aren’t you?

  71. kindasporty says: Dec 17, 2011 1:29 PM

    Tim Tebow is not exactly like Vince Young. I think that much is obvious. The comparison comes in when you’re talking about how good a quarterback is simply by looking at wins and losses. Yes Vince Young threw for a higher completion percentage his second year, but he also threw 17 interceptions compared to 9 touchdowns. If Tebow takes that kind of leap forward then I think it would be safe to say that he would not be a good quarterback. But back to the point, nobody is saying that Tim Tebow is exactly like Vince Young in every way shape and form. However, they are very comparable when you try and make the case that wins and losses are the biggest measure of how good a quarterback actually is.

  72. jm1122 says: Dec 17, 2011 1:32 PM

    …fox & the broncos are in a better position to critique tebow’s play than any of us…they appear to see him more as the next trent dilfer than the next drew brees…but hey most people never thought he could be as good as trent dilfer…

    …now as for all the cheer-leading god-boy stuff, that’s another story…

  73. td40 says: Dec 17, 2011 1:47 PM

    One thing I don’t understand: Since the Broncos offense has become an almost-exclusively-running -with-the-occasional-pass situation, why aren’t opposing teams just stacking the box on every play?

    I understand that stacking the box constantly would lead to Tebow trying to throw a lot more, but with a completion rate under 50%, who cares? If defenses treat 80% of the Broncos plays as if they’re going to be runs and Tebow has to start passing constantly, it’s not as if he’s gonna light it up through the air. Not trying to be a jerk about Tebow- just wondering why defenses don’t sell out on this guy more often since running is his strength.

  74. stonedwhitetrash says: Dec 17, 2011 2:00 PM

    Jesus will eventually tell Tebow “I showed you the way son, now you are own your on.”

  75. broncsfan72 says: Dec 17, 2011 2:23 PM

    No hurry to commit. The name of the game is improving. Either he’ll work or he won’t. People are spending way too much time hating on Tebow. If he fails, so what ? Does that make the haters right? You say he’s going to lose every week but he continues to win. Will you say,” I told you so ” when he finally does?

  76. labfan30 says: Dec 17, 2011 2:29 PM

    Tim Tebow is not exactly like Vince Young. I think that much is obvious. The comparison comes in when you’re talking about how good a quarterback is simply by looking at wins and losses. Yes Vince Young threw for a higher completion percentage his second year, but he also threw 17 interceptions compared to 9 touchdowns. If Tebow takes that kind of leap forward then I think it would be safe to say that he would not be a good quarterback. But back to the point, nobody is saying that Tim Tebow is exactly like Vince Young in every way shape and form. However, they are very comparable when you try and make the case that wins and losses are the biggest measure of how good a quarterback actually is.
    ———————————-

    No, actually I did mention the INT’s. Tebow doesn’t throw them. Not anywhere near the clip Young does. Despite those numbers from Young, the team won. Why? Well, he played well in the fourth quarter, they had a good defense and a decent running game. The only reason he lost his job was work ethic and attitude. That’s it. People who want to keep talking about how teams figured out the Titans gameplan and figured out Young in the fourth quarter are nuts. Vince Young sabatoged his own career. Tebow may get figured out and he may end up sucking, but if you are waiting for his attitude to fall apart, I think you will be waiting awhile.

  77. kindasporty says: Dec 17, 2011 2:39 PM

    labfan30,
    Ok I get what you’re saying. You’re saying Vince Young wasn’t bad, so comparing Tebow to Young in that sense actually favors Tebow. Just that Young’s attitude is the reason he’s not a starter anymore. You are right, he did win games. I guess I can’t argue with your logic for that comparison. I’m still not a Tebow fan, but every time I think of that comparison, I’ll think of you and I’ll stop.

  78. geoneran says: Dec 17, 2011 2:57 PM

    It will be tomorrow…

  79. jkiddrock619 says: Dec 17, 2011 3:07 PM

    As a Bronco fan, I only care about winning.

    If they change from our winning QB who has revamped a team and a city (Tebow) I will most certainly stop trusting Elway and Fox.

    How can any fan complain about winning?

    Or about making huge strides inividually as a passer?

    Tebow has proven that he is a long-term QB. Actually, he has proven that he is one of the most dynamic talents at the position in the league. At 24, he is a scary physical talent. His leadership ability is a 10. I will take him over Cam (Superman) Newton. (Lame).

    I have talked to a lot of Bronco fans about this. If Tebow goes, the Bronco fans will revolt like nothing ever seen in sports history. I will also be burning my Elway jersey.

  80. fmwarner says: Dec 17, 2011 3:21 PM

    People who maintain that the defense is responsible for the Broncos’ surge need to explain where the defense was when Kyle Orton started. Isn’t it just possible that Tebow’s leadership is causing the rest of the team to play better? Isn’t it possible that his value to the team is more than his passing statistics?

    Everyone always touts the importance of intangibles for QBs and points to the fact that winning QBs usually have these intangibles. Yet teams continue drafting stiffs like JaMarcus Russell based on measurables because they can’t measure intangibles. And guys who win despite a lack of measurables never get any credit until the evidence is simply overwhelming (and sometimes not even then). How silly does the then-serious debate over whether Drew Bledsoe or Tom Brady should start in the Super Bowl sound now?

  81. rushbacker says: Dec 17, 2011 5:55 PM

    Good stinkin’ Lord, will you guys PLEASE stop crying about Elway and Fox? They’re NOT going to name him the unquestioned starter until after the upcoming draft. . . they’re just not, no matter how badly it hurts the media’s little feelers. Get over it. It’s called plausible deniability, and it means they’ll be scouting quarterbacks even if they aren’t going to draft one high– just like last year.

  82. giftnthecurse says: Dec 17, 2011 7:15 PM

    They better, this guy is going to stay hot!

  83. broncobillie says: Dec 17, 2011 7:19 PM

    theglap says: Dec 17, 2011 9:13 AM

    By your logic (wins = QB of the future, regardless of how the wins happened), Trent Dilfer was the QB of the future for the Ravens

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    Riiiiight, so they replaced Dilfer with Elvis, and exactly how did THAT work out for Brilliant Brian Billick and the Ravens, who thought their only weakness was at QB?

    Sometimes the winner who doesn’t win pretty is your best bet. John Fox said it best: they don’t award style points in the NFL.

  84. broncobillie says: Dec 17, 2011 7:28 PM

    realitypolice says: Dec 17, 2011 10:38 AM

    When you are overthrowing (or underthrowing) your recievers by 10 feet for most of the game, you tend to miss the people covering them too.

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    Classic!!! My wife and I burst out laughing – too true!

  85. broncobillie says: Dec 17, 2011 7:38 PM

    td40 says: Dec 17, 2011 1:47 PM
    Not trying to be a jerk about Tebow- just wondering why defenses don’t sell out on this guy more often since running is his strength.

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    Have you noticed that the Tebow run-count has been going down recently? Only 4 times against the Bears.
    Just askin’

  86. patriotsssss says: Dec 17, 2011 7:48 PM

    You know you people know nothing about football..when you’re picking Tebow and the Broncos to win. Tebow over Brady, seriously? Brady is the real god in this football game. And who’s going to cover Welker and Gronkowski? Tebow?! Goodman and Dawkins are both hurt for the broncos. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. Patriots win easily, 38-14.

  87. franknunley57 says: Dec 17, 2011 10:03 PM

    Elway, draft Denard Robinson and run a full, spread option offense next year. You’ll have 2 qbs that can run the offense. Need that for rest or injury.

  88. fresno500 says: Dec 18, 2011 12:42 AM

    If he wins this against a healthy Brady, I might give him some props. But he is still a rookie. Nor do I think he has the skills on par with any Manning.

  89. jetfan78 says: Dec 18, 2011 6:34 AM

    maybe fox is afraid Tebow will get t-boned on the field with all that running around he’s doing… wouldn’t want to see him bust a knee cap…

  90. cadub49er says: Dec 18, 2011 12:22 PM

    I’ll say it again. It’s all about defense. Can you imagine how many Super Bowls the Broncos would have if John Elway had a defense the way the current one is playing? Elway is wishing he was 25 years younger.

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