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Colts flirt with blowing the Luck pick

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Though it would be fitting for a kid named “Luck” to play for a team with a horseshoe on its helmet, the Colts are experiencing an unlikely late-season surge that could cost the team that had presumably locked up the first overall pick a clear shot at their franchise quarterback of the future.

Thanks to an unlikely come-from-behind win over the Texans, the Colts have moved to 2-13 on the season.  If the Vikings lose to the Redskins and/or the Rams lose to the Steelers on Saturday, Week 17 would feature not only the resolution of multiple playoff spots and positioning, but also the final resolution of the “Suck for Luck” sweepstakes.

If the Colts lose to the Jaguars in Jacksonville on January 1, they’ll clinch the pick via the strength of schedule tiebreaker, which is the first measure used to determine draft position among non-playoff teams.  But if the Colts continue their hot streak and beat the mediocre-at-best Jaguars, either the Rams or the Vikings would slide into the top position position, if either or both lose in Week 17.

And so the fate of Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck won’t be decided for at least a week — unless both the Rams and Vikings win on Saturday.  Even then, the question of whether Luck will make an Elway/Eli-style power play will move to the front burner, and likely stay there for weeks if not months, once it’s known where the first pick will go.

The Colts’ presumed stranglehold on the first overall pick evaporated via their ability to stay close to the Texans throughout Thursday night’s NFL Network season finale, even though it appeared the Texans would roll over Indy after a first-snap-from-scrimmage sack-fumble forced by linebacker Brian Cushing.  One play later, running back Arian Foster gave Houston a 7-0 lead (with the extra point, of course).

Hampering the Texans was a pathetic 10-percent conversion rate on third down.  The only time Houston turned a third down into a first down came late in the game, on a bouncing-ball pass that receiver Jacoby Jones snatched out of the air and carried past the sticks, extending deeper into Indy territory a drive that culminated in another Neil Rackers field goal, making the score 16-12.

But the Texans left the Colts with enough time to piece together a 12-play, 78-yard drive fueled by an uncanny ability of Colts quarterback Dan Orlovsky to sense the pressure and step up in the pocket, a 34-yard pass from Orlovsky to receiver Reggie Wayne on third and seven from the Indy 46, a pair of penalties on Texans defensive end J.J. Watt, a pass interference call at the Houston one, and a one-yard touchdown pass from Orlovsky to Wayne.

The touchdown and the extra point gave the Colts a 19-16 lead, and with only 19 seconds remaining the Texans couldn’t mount a serious threat for a game-tying field goal.

The loss virtually ensures that the Texans will not earn a playoff bye, forcing them to host the No. 6 seed in the wild-card round.  In fact, there’s a chance that the Texans could fall to No. 4 in the AFC, if Houston loses to Tennessee next week and the Broncos win their final two games.  The resulting 10-6 tie wouldn’t be settled by the first four tiebreakers, pushing the issue to strength of victory then strength of schedule then all sorts of crazy stuff based on points scored and allowed, culminating in a 12th-step coin-toss.

Regardless, the suddenly slumping Texans will host a team like the Steelers or the Jets or maybe the Bengals on the weekend of January 7, making the first postseason game in franchise history a very challenging one.  Based on the way the Texans played against the Panthers on Sunday and the Colts on Thursday night, a one-and-out postseason debut seems to be looming in Houston.

But at least they possibly have saved themselves from having to face Andrew Luck for the next 15 years.

UPDATE 12:21 a.m. 12/23/11:  As a reader wisely points out in the comments, the Jaguars could avoid seeing Luck in the division as well by laying down for the Colts next Sunday.

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116 Responses to “Colts flirt with blowing the Luck pick”
  1. trbowman says: Dec 23, 2011 12:00 AM

    This needs to happen. It has to happen. After tonight, there is no way it can’t happen.

    The Colts need to win next Sunday.

    May the gods of football be with us.

  2. trbowman says: Dec 23, 2011 12:01 AM

    Boy, Mayock was dropping some zingers tonight, eh?

    Bill Polian a “great eye for talent.”

    Donald Brown “not a bust.”

    Uh, ok Mike.

  3. lilrob10201 says: Dec 23, 2011 12:04 AM

    This should put the sucK for lucK rumors to rest.

  4. trbowman says: Dec 23, 2011 12:04 AM

    You have to wonder if Jacksonville’s brass wants to lose Week 17.

    The players are going to fight, but the brass? They’re thinking if we lose, we don’t have to see Luck twice every year.

  5. mattlion says: Dec 23, 2011 12:05 AM

    If the Rams or Vikings get the #1 pick, who do they trade it to? Neither team will take Luck.

  6. musiccitymiracle says: Dec 23, 2011 12:05 AM

    As a Titans fan, I am quite happy to see the Colts lose the chance to draft Luck. Equally good is the prospect that this late season surge will saddle them with Jim Caldwell for another year.

  7. textexington says: Dec 23, 2011 12:06 AM

    Rodgers>Luck.

  8. lapsncaps says: Dec 23, 2011 12:06 AM

    Irsay is probably having a heart attack about right now.

    I probably speak for the City of Baltimore, when I say, “Please Do.”

  9. eddddddd says: Dec 23, 2011 12:06 AM

    Are the Colts flirting with it or is the NFL trying to take it away? There were some godaweful penalties on that last drive.

  10. lbijake says: Dec 23, 2011 12:06 AM

    It would be wrong for the Colts to get the first pick. It appeared they were tanking the season, maybe the commissioner made a call. Anybody but the Colts for #1 pick.

  11. gadgetdawg says: Dec 23, 2011 12:07 AM

    Uh oh. . . Does this mean the Pack will be losing this weekend now?

  12. jimmylions says: Dec 23, 2011 12:07 AM

    Orlovsky developed that uncanny sense of imminent danger while playing QB for the Millen-era Lions. That was a time when it was believed that drafting wide receivers in the first round provided the best protection for a quarterback.

  13. bigtimetexanfan says: Dec 23, 2011 12:07 AM

    CONSPIRACY TO KEEP MANNING IN INDY!!!!!
    Nfl told refs to win that game

  14. moneymike23 says: Dec 23, 2011 12:09 AM

    Look on the bright side Texan fans, you won’t have to face Luck for the next 15 years.

  15. tfbuckfutter says: Dec 23, 2011 12:09 AM

    “Though it would be fitting for a kid named “Luck” to play for a team with a horseshoe on its helmet”

    Not as fitting as it would be for a guy who looks like a horse to be drafted by a team with a horseshoe on their helmet…..

    And then demand a trade to a team with his own profile on THEIR helmet.

  16. 1265lombardiave says: Dec 23, 2011 12:11 AM

    Good..Luck is overrated. Nobody is THAT good..THAT perfect.

    Get the 3rd pick and take RGIII or move down.

    This whole love affair with a #1 overall QB is a joke.

    Neither Favre,Starr nor Rodgers were top 20 picks are are 4-1 in Super Bowls. You don’t need to use a top pick on a QB. Good QB’s aren’t THAT rare. They are out there. Coaches to coach them are harder to find. Aaron Rodgers would be a backup in Oakland by now if Mike Sherman had stayed in Green Bay. Luck will bust if your offensive coaches suck.

    The Colts need players…young talent everywhere. But they aren’t that far away. Why not fill 3 or 4 holes with that one pick and get a young QB elsewhere/later or wait a year?

    I would see what happens w/ Peyton..take a QB in round 2 or 3 (Or RGIII)….get some playmakers on defense and shore up the OL.

    Think big picture not selling jerseys and getting on the cover of Sporting News.

    Be bold. Don’t do what ESPN says you have to do.

  17. savocabol1 says: Dec 23, 2011 12:11 AM

    Doesn’t matter if they get the first pick. Colts will still be able to draft Luck. Rams and Vikings won’t pick him. They already have their qb.

  18. sportsguybayarea says: Dec 23, 2011 12:13 AM

    sorry texans fans, youre not winning the big one with tj yates…maybe one playoff game but thats about it. so lets all cross out the texans from the superbowl right now

  19. geniusfan says: Dec 23, 2011 12:14 AM

    I really have nothing against Andrew Luck but if he’s a bust not only am I going to break out in a uncontrollable laughter but I’m going to remember all the people who wanted/said teams should tank for the guy.

    I’ve watched plenty of Stanford games this year and while I think he’s certainly the best QB in this class I don’t see once in a generation talent.

    Maybe I’ll be wrong maybe I’ll be right. All I know is that historically if you look at all the QB’s that are picked early on (top five) they have a 50/50 chance of busting or succeeding meaning it’s a flip of the coin not a sure thing.

  20. Wisconsin77 says: Dec 23, 2011 12:15 AM

    Texans should have went after Favre.

  21. treydawg69 says: Dec 23, 2011 12:18 AM

    Some serious bad calls down the stretch in that game. That said, gotta win that game if you’re a contender.

  22. terripet says: Dec 23, 2011 12:21 AM

    i hope the colte win so manning comes back and proves all the negative idiots wrong i hope they take either the cb out of lsu or the wr out of oak st.;

  23. slugbaitspace says: Dec 23, 2011 12:23 AM

    So, basically the Colts’ headset communications went on the fritz, and the sideline never found out that Barkley won’t be entering the draft?

  24. fmlizard says: Dec 23, 2011 12:24 AM

    If the Vikings somehow, well…luck into this pick, and they don’t take Luck…I’m done as a fan.

    Ponder can be flipped for a 2nd rounder. The Vikings won’t get another chance at the next Manning.

  25. deconjonesbitchslap says: Dec 23, 2011 12:25 AM

    The Vikings could trade Ponder for a ham sandwich. Good ham, like black forest ham. i’m drawing the line there. Vikings need

  26. trbowman says: Dec 23, 2011 12:25 AM

    Oh, yeah, said it all along – no such thing as tanking in the NFL.

    Irsay might not be happy, but the players certainly aren’t quitting. They don’t care about some unproven college prospect

  27. kd75 says: Dec 23, 2011 12:27 AM

    The Pittsburgh Penguins and their 3 Stanley Cups laugh in Indy’s general direction. The San Antonio Spurs too.

  28. xpensivewinos says: Dec 23, 2011 12:29 AM

    …..the Rams or Vikings may not draft a QB, but they can certainly trade the pick to the highest bidder. Kind of ironic if the Vikings are able to pull a “reverse Herschel Walker deal” after all these years.

  29. tluke25 says: Dec 23, 2011 12:33 AM

    If you’re Jacksonville, you know what you have to do next week. …. If Jacksonville loses next week it would be the biggest win over Indianapolis ever. Why should Jacksonville give them that pick and then have another QB come in and potentially keep them out of the playoffs yet another 10 more seasons. Jacksonville knows what it has to do.

  30. badtimeoutcaldwell says: Dec 23, 2011 12:33 AM

    My gosh are some people dumb… The COLTS WERE NOT TRYING TO LOSE GAMES! They SUCKED!!! Period… end of story.

    No call needed from the commish! They sucked with Painter, but Orlovsky gives them a chance to win and they’ve won a couple close games. No conspiracy theory… just football.

  31. Mike Florio says: Dec 23, 2011 12:33 AM

    @mattlion . . .

    Rams’ new coach/G.M. may want Luck. At a minimum, Minnesota or St. Louis would trade the pick to the Colts or someone drafting after the Colts.

  32. stanklepoot says: Dec 23, 2011 12:35 AM

    So Mike, after having your argument that the NFL needs to switch to a draft lottery to avoid teams tanking games to get better draft picks (despite countless insiders saying plainly that can’t happen in the NFL because the people who would need to tank those games would be putting their own careers at risk for a player who might not make a difference until after they’re gone) laid to rest, you now want to start a conspiracy theory about another team tanking to keep the Colts from being able to draft Luck? Well, despite the ridiculousness of the supposition, you’ve now carefully defined a no-lose argument for yourself. The Colts and Jags play next week. If the Colts lose you go back to your prior claim that they could be tanking so they can draft Luck, and if the Jags lose you can ask if they did so to keep the Colts from being able to draft Luck.

  33. coolgato13 says: Dec 23, 2011 12:36 AM

    I am sorry. The Colts are beyond stupid!
    What is 10 minutes worth of enjoyment versus the risk of 10 years of mediocrity…
    Dumb, dumb, dumb.

  34. ortonsneckbeard says: Dec 23, 2011 12:39 AM

    Wow thanks for clearing up that whole extra point thing for me

  35. tluke25 says: Dec 23, 2011 12:40 AM

    I disagree with the analysis that the Rams or Vikings wouldn’t select Luck. … It might be even more likely they would trade away their current young QB’s instead of trading away Luck. … Bradford is still unproven and has a history of injuries … and the Vikings would gladly start Luck and trade away Ponder for a 2nd rounder.

  36. discosucs2005 says: Dec 23, 2011 12:43 AM

    As long as a team like St. Louis or Indy can draft Luck, there is still a chance that San Francisco can trade for him.

  37. Football Blog says: Dec 23, 2011 12:48 AM

    Heres a situation Vikings fans:

    Vikings get #1 pick and draft Andrew Luck then trade Ponder to the Colts which gives the Colts a young QB to backup Manning and eventually take over in a couple years. This would give Indy the opportunity to draft other positions they need while at the same time getting their future QB. It’s a win-win situation for Vikings & Colts!

  38. ramjam28 says: Dec 23, 2011 12:50 AM

    Thanks Colts for beating the Texans and giving the Patriots a first round bye. Now i would love to see the Giants and Patriots rematch in the super bowl, in Indy, and have Brady beat Peyton’s little brother in his stadium. Merry Christmas.

  39. canadianvikingfaniii says: Dec 23, 2011 12:57 AM

    Vikings cannot afford to go without upgrading the OLine first. No left or right tackle, no right guard and a fast desolving left guard in Hutchinson. Jimmy K, the blocking TE is going to retire. If they picked luck they’d have a worse Christian Ponder situation. I say worse because Ponder has the wheels to avoid more sacks, and he has already been sacked a lot. Even if Luck ends up the next Peyton it won’t be behind that terrible Viking OLine.

  40. theripster30 says: Dec 23, 2011 12:57 AM

    The worst stadium, tied for least wins, league leader in arrests. The Minnesota Vikings.

    Talk about the perfect storm.

  41. barroomhero80 says: Dec 23, 2011 1:09 AM

    vikings wont get the first round and they need kalil to fix that haggard o line and secondary is a priority, they’re sticking with pondexter like it or not. they need to fire speilman and frazier

  42. glockrocket says: Dec 23, 2011 1:12 AM

    Besides Manning, who do the Colts have? Wayne and Clark are basically done, Saturday as well. I’m looking forward to seeing the cellar dwelling Colts for many years to come.

  43. gbiscottagecheesefatties says: Dec 23, 2011 1:13 AM

    if the Vikes get the chance on luck they will take him… any team will, don’t kid yourself… there is a reason why “experts” are going crazy for this kid. Name the last two who got this kind of hype, Manning and Elway, I’d take either… If the Vikes get Luck, Ponder traded for a late first / early 2nd and they will build their line thru the draft in the first 3 rounds… they would add free agents because they would come for Luck and AP and Percy…. build the stadium now cuz if I see Luck and AP move to LA I will kill someone… probably myself

  44. pericles12 says: Dec 23, 2011 1:13 AM

    Yes, the Colts are so screwed if they lose the 1st pick… oh wait, they have PEYTON MANNING!

  45. crazybeardedjack says: Dec 23, 2011 1:22 AM

    Blowing the Luck pick? Seriously guys?! The Colts have Peyton Manning, one of the best QBs to ever play the game, on their roster. Yes, there’s a small chance that he may not play again, but Peyton is the type of player to do everything in his power to make sure that’s not the case.

    On top of that, the Luck hype train is getting out of control. He’s a great college quarterback, but he’s played his entire college career against second rate defenses. He also played for a guy in college that now has Alex Smith playing pretty alright. Yeah, he’ll be good, but sacking it all and possibly forcing the best thing that’s happened to your franchise out of town is a ridiculous move.

  46. jagerbmb says: Dec 23, 2011 1:24 AM

    “As a reader wisely points out in the comments, the Jaguars could avoid seeing Luck in the division as well by laying down for the Colts next Sunday.”

    That would be so funny. I do like the idea of a draft lottery though, would be a much better idea than Neurologists at all games. :)

  47. Senor Cardgage says: Dec 23, 2011 1:25 AM

    The Colts and Jaguars should switch uniforms next week so they can each play to win.

  48. dienavinjohnson says: Dec 23, 2011 1:42 AM

    Wow, the Colts “win” and help the Patriots get a first round bye while risking the loss of the number 1 pick. Thanks Indy.

    Also, biggest lock of the year, bet the UNDER in the Colts/Jaguars game next week. That should be some truly gripping television.

  49. gbiscottagecheesefatties says: Dec 23, 2011 1:42 AM

    No team will pass on Luck unless they are called the Packers, Panthers, Saints, Patriots (pending if Brady will play another 3 years), Lions, Steelers (would trade) and that’s about it. I maybe missing another team but I can’t think of them right now. Don’t kid yourselves thinking otherwise, he is highly rated for a reason and will go number one to the Colts, Vikes or Rams. that means Manning / Ponder / Bradford, gone! Bradford and Manning seem to be the hardest to move due to financial reasons, Ponder doesn’t make much $ due to the rookie wages, he can easily be traded. Very easy. If Ponder wants to stay a starting QB for the Vikes, he needs to win one game this year. Wash or Bears

  50. andyo102 says: Dec 23, 2011 1:49 AM

    the Colts dont deserve another Franchise QB given to them. I get the QB position is the most important position on the team and nobody can fill the shoes of a Peyton Manning but how the hell can a Championship Contender consistently every year, lose 1 guy, and then flirt with with 0-16 immediately. Obviously GM cant put together a respectable team

  51. trollhammer20 says: Dec 23, 2011 1:55 AM

    discosucs2005 says:Dec 23, 2011 12:43 AM

    As long as a team like St. Louis or Indy can draft Luck, there is still a chance that San Francisco can trade for him.
    ______________________________
    You can tell which Bay Area fans are on hallucinogens, because they think there’s a chance in hell SF will wind up with Luck.

    Strongly doubt the Rams will deal with anyone in their own division, lest they spend the next 15 years watching Luck to 28-2 against them. Even if the Rams don’t pick first overall, moving up from a minimum pick of 23, the Niners would have to pay likely a record amount in picks to move up to 1….and pass up teams with higher draft picks to trade, like Washington, Miami, etc.

    Niners will re-sign Smith and have him and Kapaernick going forward. First round pick will probably be a WR, most likely, since Ginn, Edwards, and Morgan are all FAs at the end of this year.

  52. Andre's Johnson says: Dec 23, 2011 1:59 AM

    Disclaimers:

    1) I am a Texans fan.
    2) They should have won this game.

    #########

    I absolutely think, for the first time in my life, that this NFL game was fixed. JJ Watt played his ass off and was flagged for three penalties (15 yards apiece) that were laughable at best, criminal at worst.

    The officials allowed Orlovsky to throw the ball away from the pocket, the Colts’ O-line to hold like crazy, and the Colts’ WR’s to push off for separation.

    Then there are the calls against the Texans’ defense. All in the final drive. The officials absolutely made themselves part of the outcome. They influenced the game to a degree that I’ve not seen before. The first roughing call on Watt? He sacked Orlovsky (who was not attempting a pass) cleanly and was called for roughing.

    I hope the Texans press the commissioner’s office about this game. I fear the NFL Network will sweep it all under the rug, but hopefully some sindicated/prominent online columnists and radio personalities will make an issue of it.

    This game was fixed. Yes, Orlovsky had to make a good throw or two, but my God when you have five extra opportunities and the officials keep stopping the clock, how hard is it to find Reggie Wayne for a jump-ball?

    Having said that, the Texans look like crap. TJ Yates is once again just another guy, and the injuries are taking their toll. The defense is strong, but it can only do so much. The offense had better recapture some of that razzle dazzle from earlier this season or Houston’s going to have a hard time beating even the Bengals or Jets at home in the first round of the playoffs.

    But make no mistake: someone in the NFL offices wants Manning in Indianapolis. Keep an eye on next week’s games that directly affect draft order.

  53. Football Blog says: Dec 23, 2011 2:14 AM

    If The Vikings finish with the #1 overall pick they have to think long and hard about drafting Andrew Luck.

    I speak on behalf of all of us Minnesota Vikings fans that we are all sick and tired of seeing our team play with mediocre QBs. Let’s face it, Christian Ponder will not be the next Peyton Manning or John Elway. Nobody was thinking that about Ponder coming out of college and Ponder was the only QB I didn’t want The Vikings to pick. Low & behold they took Ponder #12 Overall!

    If they finish with the #1 overall pick draft Andrew Luck then trade Ponder! Upgrade our secondary in free agency & in the draft. Bring in a free agent OT and WR. Maybe even get a DB, OT, or WR out of the Ponder trade.

    Whatever they do if The Vikings get the #1 overall pick and they don’t draft Andrew Luck then Ponder will be in the spotlight his whole career and will be compared to Andrew Luck. And if Ponder turns out to be a bust and Andrew Luck lives up to all the hype then the Vikings will never be able to live it down.

  54. pelicanpoop says: Dec 23, 2011 2:24 AM

    Of course the Bears could also lay down against the Vikings in week 17 to avoid adding Luck to Rodgers, et al…

    Laydowns all over…

  55. jagwar73 says: Dec 23, 2011 2:31 AM

    Lay down Jags!!!!!

  56. cletusvandam says: Dec 23, 2011 2:33 AM

    you watch, next week Orlovsky will be “injured” at practice and Painter will have to play. Which means the Colts will lose.
    They will probably also “rest” Wayne, Clark, Garcon, Addai, and Freeney

  57. pressmephilly says: Dec 23, 2011 2:36 AM

    Who cares, Luck will most likely suck for luck himself. His dad sucked…..

  58. travispeters1 says: Dec 23, 2011 2:36 AM

    Do none of the “experts” see Kellen Moore as a top QB prospect ?

  59. calibear831 says: Dec 23, 2011 2:37 AM

    So u guys do read our comments! ;)

  60. supremeomega says: Dec 23, 2011 3:05 AM

    They won that game for the fans and vets Reggie, Clark, Mathis, Brackett that may not be back next year. Also gives them a blueprint for the future. Solid D with more running than throwing. The win gives the fans some hope that with a healthy Manninh they can win 9-11 games next season.

    They will absolutely throw the game next week. It could be a true NFL embarrassment because JAX will be trying I lose also to keep Luck from going to Indy so you may see a 3-0 game.

  61. supremeomega says: Dec 23, 2011 3:30 AM

    If you come to this blog frequently and hate trbowman’s daily mindless postings…please give me a thumbs up!

  62. jimmysee says: Dec 23, 2011 4:04 AM

    “But the Texans left the Colts with enough time to piece together a 12-play, 78-yard drive fueled by an uncanny ability of Colts quarterback Dan Orlovsky to sense the pressure and step up in the pocket …

    He’s certainly had plenty of experience in sensing pressure playing in both Matt Millen-era Detroit and now Indy.

  63. jimmysee says: Dec 23, 2011 4:08 AM

    ….. and if Luck truly is the messiah of football, why would he want to play in Minnesota — a team with extremely thin talent at all but a very few positions, a head coach perceived as weak, no stadium in which to call home, and no apparent resolve or consensus at the state level to even want to come up with a stadium deal?!

  64. bartpkelly says: Dec 23, 2011 4:13 AM

    the fans of teams in the playoffs get the ‘Playoff Scenario generators’

    fans of the bottom feeders need a ‘Draft Scenario generator’

  65. kahnsbushymustache says: Dec 23, 2011 5:03 AM

    Jaguars won’t be laying down for anybody…

  66. descendency says: Dec 23, 2011 5:12 AM

    “Flirting” and “blowing” in the same sentence? Oh come on Mike… as if “Suck for Luck” wasn’t an obvious enough euphemism.

  67. sshameless says: Dec 23, 2011 5:12 AM

    Haha, first the colts bungle through a pathetic 13 game losing streak. And now that the only advantageous meaning and practical value these games have is to secure the 1st pick in the draft, the dolts blow that one too. These midwesterners have the brains of lemmings on a cliff.

    It was laughable to watch Manning sweat it out on the sidelines. He’s got millions and 4 years left to milk out of Irsay. Imagine the torment on his contentious giant ego if Luck benches his old ass. You could smell his fear through the TV screen.

  68. icanspeel says: Dec 23, 2011 5:21 AM

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.. I hate all this “Suck for Luck” talk as it almost implies teams should lose on purpose to set themselves up for next year. They really should look into a lottery system for top 5 picks.

  69. fsubrowns9510 says: Dec 23, 2011 5:33 AM

    If im the jaguars i throw the game on purpose just so i dont have to play andrew luck 2 times a year or let the colts rake in a kings ransom for that pick.

  70. seatownballers says: Dec 23, 2011 6:03 AM

    Was I the only one that thought the officiating was horrific in this game? By the way, this could have been a strategic loss. Texans have already won division. This win by the colts might only keep andrew luck from joining their division. Just saying

  71. chuckyd317 says: Dec 23, 2011 6:05 AM

    Suddenly Peytons not looking so MVP-esque… The Colts can win with Orlovsky… I’ve said it all along? It doesn’t show how GREAT Peyton is, it shows how BAD Painter is…

  72. blackqbwhiterb says: Dec 23, 2011 6:14 AM

    Hard to believe, but the competition for worst team in the league will be the top story heading into weeks 16-17, instead of the playoff scenarios….

  73. timtheenchanter1 says: Dec 23, 2011 6:37 AM

    Looks like it’s Curtis Painter time again!

  74. 8man says: Dec 23, 2011 6:38 AM

    Thought for sure this team was headed for 0-16. Until they benched Painter, that is.

    Gotta give some props to Orlovsky, he’s doing the job.

  75. devinmr711 says: Dec 23, 2011 6:55 AM

    The Vikings and Rams have a billion needs on their team. They could trade the #1 overall pick to a team like Washington or Cleveland for a combination of high picks and improve their team more than Luck would of done.

  76. worldwidebleater says: Dec 23, 2011 7:06 AM

    Colt Flirt With Blowing the Luck Pick? Big deal. They’ve flirted with blowing a$$ all season.

  77. rrodr103 says: Dec 23, 2011 7:29 AM

    Prediction: Colt veterans play to keep Manning as their one and only. Manning doesnt want rook breathing down his neck. Vets like Reggie Wayne, Jeff Saturday, Robert Mathis, Dwight Freeney treat this last game as a playoff for their guy Manning, who is probably being shut down by management. They know what kind of competitor he is.

    If Colts get 3rd pick they focus on getting pieces for Manning. 1st pick would have been Luck, no question. Maybe 2nd is RG3. But doubt they trade up for those two. They would be forced to spend picks on retooling that team for another run. Still, not discussed here is how the proud veterans on that team, besides Manning, feel about this whole thing. I say they win vs. Jags for their guy Manning. And it will be emotional for Indy vet players.

  78. brownsfandrinkingmakersmark says: Dec 23, 2011 7:50 AM

    After the 400th article about Andrew Luck (just on this site) and teams and fans worried about losing the rights to that pick – How fitting would it be if Luck goes back to Stanford for his senior year?

  79. packerman1968 says: Dec 23, 2011 8:08 AM

    I was at the game last night, I was wearing my ” SUCK FOR LUCK ” T-shirt. The same one I have worn before. As I was enjoying my nachos from the Cantina ( they are the best) I had one of the security guards approach me and tell me I had to take off my shirt. That I was in violation of NFL policy, I told him I did not think this was right. He asked if I would like to talk to a supervisor , so of course I wanted to. I asked for a copy of the policy and of course they could not produce one. He stated the same thing, so I told him I wanted a refund of my ticket price. We even showed him pictures of the prior game where I had worn the same shirt. Along with my buddy, who had a ” We do not need Luck, We just Suck shirt” We have had all kinds of compliments about the shirts. I could understand if I was acting like a fool, but I was not. I do not drink and only indulge in nacho’s and hot dogs. I was not loud mouth or anything. I understand the guards are only doing their job. The one who escorted me out even said off the record he though this was stupid. I asked for a refund and was told that since I am not the season ticket holder, I was not entitlement to one.

    Is this what this franchise has came down to? Can they not have a little fun. I was told “suck ” is considered profanity by NFl policy. What a sad time for the Colts and the NFL. Where a hard working tax payer can not even wear a shirt of their choice. What next will the Colts not allow visiting fans to wear the jersey of choice? Kind of funny I can not wear a t-shirt, but a women can wear a low cut shirt with her boobs hanging out and that is okay.

    I can honestly say I will not support the Colts in the future and I most likely will not attend games again. What a way to treat a paying customer, who showed up to watch a team throw a season to gain a draft pick.

    Ryan Fortune

  80. gmen1987 says: Dec 23, 2011 8:10 AM

    The Colts are so bad that they suck at playing “Suck for Luck”.

  81. 1972wasalongtimeago says: Dec 23, 2011 8:12 AM

    If the Vikings get the 1st pick, it’ll be time for Spielman to make it up to the Dolphins fan for screwing up our franchise from 2004-2007. Trade the pick to Miami for a second rounder, AJ Feeley, and Lamar Gordon. Do that for us Rick, and we’ll call it even.

  82. gmen1987 says: Dec 23, 2011 8:15 AM

    savocabol1 says:
    Dec 23, 2011 12:11 AM
    Doesn’t matter if they get the first pick. Colts will still be able to draft Luck. Rams and Vikings won’t pick him. They already have their qb.

    ————————————————-
    Rams won’t take a QB. They are stuck with that big Sam Bradford contract. The Vikings could really ponder at taking Luck. Christian Ponder was a panic reach (just like Troy “The Bust” Williamson was after the Randy Moss trade.” Ponder was not rated that high by most teams. The Viking could take Luck and then trade Ponder to another team in the mid to late 1st round range.

  83. gb4mn0 says: Dec 23, 2011 8:22 AM

    MN attempts to trade to pick along with Allen and next years No.1 to GB for Rodgers because they know the only way they can beat the Packers is with ex-Packers.

  84. tropicpurple says: Dec 23, 2011 8:22 AM

    Again, it continues to amaze me (not really) that people think a team, such as the Vikings wouldn’t draft a QB because they already have a so-called franchise QB so Luck would fall – wrong. Like the Colts and previous poster indicated, they (Vikings) could draft Luck and trade Ponder to the Colts, or a legit LT (Long from Miami).

    Or, if the Vikings have the first pick, they trade down to Cleveland for their two first round picks and some combination of future picks (either another 1st round next year or more this year), then trade down again, the (new) first pick from Cleveland (4th or 5th?) to Miami for Jake Long, or possibly even more picks.

    If the Colts win out and either the Vikings or Rams sneak ahead of them in the draft, it would make a difficult decision in Indy easier because another team would have made if for them.

    Coincidence? Perhaps not, is it possible Manning has motivated the team as to not to be put in a situation where his legacy with the Colts is put in jeopardy? Just saying.

  85. tdk24 says: Dec 23, 2011 8:26 AM

    Luck is not a lock.

  86. texanfan62 says: Dec 23, 2011 8:36 AM

    Hey Patriot Fan. Even though you have the #1 seed,you WON’T go to the Super Bowl. NO DEFENSE! I don’t care if you have Tom Brady or Tom Selleck at QB. Ain’t gonna happen.Even if you do, the Packers or Saints will kick your butt.

  87. haywoodjablomee says: Dec 23, 2011 8:40 AM

    If I was a gambling man, I would bet the house on the Colts losing next week. Colts management is shady at best.

  88. tomcan8 says: Dec 23, 2011 8:41 AM

    bigtimetexanfan says:
    Dec 23, 2011 12:07 AM
    CONSPIRACY TO KEEP MANNING IN INDY!!!!!
    Nfl told refs to win that game

    ____________________________________

    Sounds like the NBA

  89. richm2256 says: Dec 23, 2011 8:55 AM

    deconjonesbitchslap says:
    The Vikings could trade Ponder for a ham sandwich. Good ham, like black forest ham. i’m drawing the line there. Vikings need
    ———————————————————
    On rye bread, not white bread, with Swiss Cheese …. and dark deli mustard, not that cheap bright yellow crap.

    Yeah … and a cold glass of milk, too!

  90. northshorejag says: Dec 23, 2011 8:56 AM

    You Play to Win the Game!

    or you could file this under the bs heading of every team that drafts in the top ten and we hear,

    “that guy will be a fixture for the next 10 years”

  91. xxwhodatxx says: Dec 23, 2011 8:58 AM

    Whoever said conspiracy was right. The refs were terrible.

  92. woodyc says: Dec 23, 2011 9:08 AM

    There is too much hype over Luck. The guy has yet to even take a preseason snap, and people have already elected him to the HOF. Easy people, he could be the next Ryan Leaf or JaMarcus Russell. Remember back in 1998 when people said that Leaf would be better than Manning? There could another QB in the draft that will be better than Luck. Just think, Tom Brady was a 6th round pick. Drew Brees, 2nd round, Joe Montana 3rd round. Kurt Warner, not drafted. I’m sure there are others, and the list of great college players who couldn’t do anything in the NFL is long.

  93. johnnyjagfan says: Dec 23, 2011 9:14 AM

    @musiccitymiracle:

    Just because your sorry a$$ team couldn’t beat an 0-13 team while you had a chance to stay in the playoff hunt doesn’t mean you need to start celebrating or looking for a reason to celebrate. Finding joy in the notion that the Colts may lose the #1 pick and a rookie QB is weak. Can’t wait to see y’alls sorry ass this week in Nashville.

    I’ll take Gabbert over TJ Yates right now. Yates’ only first down was that bobbling catch by Jones in the 2nd half? We SUCK and haven’t started the same OL two games in a row and haven’t sucked that bad. Arian Foster’s posture sitting down laid back on the bench while the defense collapsed said it all. He is the team, much like MJD is the only legit offensive starter in Jacksonville. They’re headed for a beatdown against whoever they draw in the wildcard. Write it down. Bet it, even.

    The Jags will give the Colts a game. Mel Tucker is trying out for a job. Where do you people get some of these ideas? We may take an ass whipping but we never quit on anyone.

  94. RomosRibs says: Dec 23, 2011 9:17 AM

    Yeah, ya gotta believe that SOMETHING was goin on.

  95. truthserum4u says: Dec 23, 2011 9:18 AM

    “If the Colts lose to the Jaguars in Jacksonville on January 1, they’ll clinch the pick via the strength of schedule tiebreaker, which is the first measure used to determine draft position among non-playoff teams.”

    Mike,

    How in the world did STATS come up with that?

    The Colts & Vikings played five common opponents, so their records affect both teams equally (NO, Atl, TB, Car & KC). Currently the win/loss record for the Vikings’ opponents is 63-49 & Indy’s opponents is 64-39 (the extra game being the one last night).

    An opponent (of either the Colts or Vikes) playing another opponent from their schedule (i.e Green Bay vs. Detroit & Chicago) in the final two weeks doesn’t affect anything since it will add one win and one loss to the over-all record no matter who wins.

    That leaves the following games that can affect the strength of schedule for the Colts & Vikings.

    Colts opponents:
    Steelers vs. Rams
    Patriots vs. Dolphins
    Patriots vs. Bills
    Bengals vs. Cardinals (Viking opponent by the way)

    Vikings opponents:
    Denver vs. Bills
    Redskins vs. Eagles
    Cardinals vs. Seahawkes
    Cardinals vs. Bengals (Indy opponent)

    The Colts strength of schedule is currently one win stronger than the Vikings schedule. So how, when the Colts’ opponents could win all four of the above games and the Vikings’s opponents could lose all four of theirs, can the Colts be assured of a weaker strength of schedule if they lose to Jacksonville?

    I must be missing something. Can anyone help me out? I’m sure it will be something simple.

  96. melikefootball says: Dec 23, 2011 9:20 AM

    I would say the Colts should thank that DISRESPECTED over officiating crew in the game last night. I think their favorite team wants LUCK and they helped with the tic tac patty wack calls in the last drive.

  97. mwcarolina says: Dec 23, 2011 9:25 AM

    I disagree with the analysis that the Rams or Vikings wouldn’t select Luck. … It might be even more likely they would trade away their current young QB’s instead of trading away Luck. … Bradford is still unproven and has a history of injuries
    ————————————————————–
    IF the Rams get the 1st pick FORGET about Luck to the Rams. people keep saying that Bradford will be quit on, BUT you have to keep in mind the money Bradford is being paid!!! ADD to that, do you really believe that Andrew Luck is better than Sam Bradford??? Bradford has proven for a least one year that when protected that he can throw the ball and throw it well, he’s had a down year, but half that blame can be on the offensive line. quitting on Bradford would make him a costly backup and yes you can trade him, but who would do it and why would a team trade for Bradford and his contract??? the only team who could do that is Washington, i actually though HOPE the Rams get the pick. the Colts dont need this pick, they should use a 2nd rounder on a QB, the Vikings will likely upset Washington, so i dont see that pick happening, but the Rams make more sense to get the pick because their o-line stinks.

  98. klunge says: Dec 23, 2011 9:29 AM

    Two beefs with this article:
    1) None of these teams are going to tank a game for some media-speculated agenda. There’s 53 professional athletes and numerous coaches on both sides whose livelihood and reputation are at stake, and these performance records are preserved and stick with them for eternity. Any player who would even agree to throw a game should quit the business. You can’t help if you suck more than the other team, but you better play to win or don’t bother coming out the tunnel.

    2) The standards for a “surge” are certainly low these days. 13 straight losses capped by wins over one mediocre team having an off-day, and one 3-pt home win over an injury-ravaged and questionably penalized team. If the Colts think Luck is the one player that can save the team, they can trade up the one whole spot to get him, if he isn’t still there.

  99. bleedgreen says: Dec 23, 2011 9:31 AM

    Makes you wonder why Orlovsky wasn’t playing before last week. He’s not great, but he’s not terrible either.

  100. sojumaster says: Dec 23, 2011 9:32 AM

    The Colts got inside information that Luck is going to stay in college for 1 more year.

  101. theredbengal says: Dec 23, 2011 9:37 AM

    @Trbowman

    Mayock has to say things like that about crummy talent evaluators, since he’s one of them.

    He was the main force saying that Blaine Gabbert was the best QB prospect in the ’11 draft…

  102. bozosforall says: Dec 23, 2011 9:39 AM

    lapsncaps says:
    Dec 23, 2011 12:06 AM
    Irsay is probably having a heart attack about right now.

    I probably speak for the City of Baltimore, when I say, “Please Do.”

    __
    Baltimore…the City of Losers.

  103. bozosforall says: Dec 23, 2011 9:48 AM

    haywoodjablomee says:
    Dec 23, 2011 8:40 AM
    If I was a gambling man, I would bet the house on the Colts losing next week. Colts management is shady at best.

    __
    They will never be as shady as the enabling Pats management that allowed Belichick to cheat all of those years covering Spygate.

  104. gmen1987 says: Dec 23, 2011 10:01 AM

    johnnyjagfan says:
    Dec 23, 2011 9:14 AM
    @musiccitymiracle:

    Just because your sorry a$$ team couldn’t beat an 0-13 team while you had a chance to stay in the playoff hunt doesn’t mean you need to start celebrating or looking for a reason to celebrate. Finding joy in the notion that the Colts may lose the #1 pick and a rookie QB is weak. Can’t wait to see y’alls sorry ass this week in Nashville.

    I’ll take Gabbert over TJ Yates right now. Yates’ only first down was that bobbling catch by Jones in the 2nd half? We SUCK and haven’t started the same OL two games in a row and haven’t sucked that bad.

    =========================

    Well Gabbert is a 1st round draft pick and Yates was like a 5th round draft pick. Gabbert is suppose to be better than Yates.

  105. j0esixpack says: Dec 23, 2011 10:03 AM

    Perhaps Irsay and Polian were told that Luck will pull an Elway and force his way off the Colts?

    That’s the only explanation

    It’s still clear that the Colts were tanking games early on and there’s nothing to stop them from doing the same – the only challenge would be if the Jags decide to tank a game too

  106. johnnyjagfan says: Dec 23, 2011 10:54 AM

    @gmen1987:

    And how many QBs are supposed to be better than Tom Brady?

  107. truthserum4u says: Dec 23, 2011 11:32 AM

    Just realized I made a typo in my previous post. The current number of loses for the Colts’ opponents is 49. So the over-all record should be 64-49 n0t 64-39. Sorry!

  108. cobibones13 says: Dec 23, 2011 11:36 AM

    lol at the people that think the Vikes can just get rid of Ponder for a 1st or 2nd rounder easy. He barely had a better rookie season than Gabbert and what, there are going to be teams dying to get Ponder?

    They’d be lucky to get a late 3rd rounder for him.

    MJD is on the verge of being the NFL rushing champ this year, no way he lays down for anyone.

  109. drewsylvania says: Dec 23, 2011 11:45 AM

    The Colts laid down all season until they were sure they could get Luck. Now that that’s back in question, I suspect they’ll get shut out next week.

  110. gmen1987 says: Dec 23, 2011 11:56 AM

    johnnyjagfan says:
    Dec 23, 2011 10:54 AM
    @gmen1987:

    And how many QBs are supposed to be better than Tom Brady?

    ==================================
    For every Tom Brady there is tons of Brodie Croyles, Chris Redmans, Kellen Clemens, Rusty Hilger, and tons of other mid to late round QBs who did nothing. The failure rate of non-first round QBs are much higher than 1st round QBs. Most playoff teams or contenders have 1st round QBs.

  111. drewsylvania says: Dec 23, 2011 12:07 PM

    If I’m a season-ticket holder, I sue my team for my money back. I don’t accept my team deliberately putting a lousy product on the field.

  112. gmen1987 says: Dec 23, 2011 1:31 PM

    travispeters1 says:
    Dec 23, 2011 2:36 AM
    Do none of the “experts” see Kellen Moore as a top QB prospect ?
    ————————————————
    Goobs, it’s because Moore sucks as a prospect. These experts also get paid for what they do. If you think you are so good, then submit your resume to an NFL team. Moore is like Chase Daniels and Colt Brennan, good college QBs are not legitimate QB prospects.

  113. electstat says: Dec 23, 2011 2:09 PM

    If the Jets make the playoffs, they have to be excited about catching the Texans at the right time. Can’t imagine Yates doing anything in the air. He’s going to have to hand it off 50 times.

  114. stanklepoot says: Dec 23, 2011 4:20 PM

    icanspeel says: Dec 23, 2011 5:21 AM

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.. I hate all this “Suck for Luck” talk as it almost implies teams should lose on purpose to set themselves up for next year. They really should look into a lottery system for top 5 picks.
    _____________________________
    The lottery system in the NBA is ridiculous. The current system in the NFL is designed specifically to promote parity, and it’s not going anywhere. Furthermore, there’s no need to change the current system. Losing to get a better draft pick may be an interesting topic for fans or writers, but it just doesn’t happen in the NFL. There are simply too many people that would have to go along with it, and for almost all of them it would be damaging to their careers. So, thinking logically, why would someone put their career at risk simply to help their team draft a player who might not be a big help until after they’re gone. Remember, teams with horrible seasons tend to have more turnover in their rosters, and FAs coming from such teams are likely to make less money on the open market. Tanking simply doesn’t make any sense for the players…and that’s ignoring the fact that these players made it to the NFL by being more competitive than the thousands of college football players who never made it to the pros.

  115. dolphandan says: Dec 27, 2011 7:51 PM

    If you suck for Luck you deserve to get cut.

  116. neeboy74 says: Dec 28, 2011 11:34 PM

    Andrew luck, Suck for Luck, the Luck Pick, blah blah blah……I got two words for you morons: Ryan Leaf.

    Remind me…when did Aaron Rogers go on the draft???

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