Food for thought: If Brett Favre dropped back 64 times against the crappy NYG secondary, he would’ve put 50+ points on the board, not 14.

Wow, you can’t even read, I said Balti and the Jets have everything else. If you’re older than 13yrs old you should be ashamed. Jets O-line has 2 Pro Bowlers. Got rid of BEdwards, signed Burress and paid SHolmes at WR. Who’d they lose @ safety and DL?. Who’d the Falcons lose to FA on the OL? You just make it up as you go along. Yeah, Balti beat the Pats@home 2yrs ago, so what? Then what happened? What’s it been, 12 yrs since your only SB? Hope you win another one someday. We’ll see what happens.

So it’s okay to lose in the first round, you idiot.

At least the patriots will make the playoffs every year. You’re just mad that the jets will never get a real QB.

I’m done explaining football to you,its about as productive as explaining astrophysics to a wino.
For you to say Ryan is better than Flacco invalidates anything you may’ve said. At least Sanchez can win a playoff game. Ryan’s been twice,once as the best seed in the conference and STILL couldn’t get a win at home. Instead of spouting foolishness on here save your meager brainpower for coming up with excuses for yet another 1 & done season in Foxboro. It’d be the ultimate poetic justice if Tebow comes to Foxboro and wins after losing in Denver.Before you scoff,remember just how bad that swiss cheese D of the Patriots is.

As a lifelong Jets fan, I’ve seen a lot of bad coaches. Rex isn’t one of them.

You don’t fire a coach with a career 28-19 record that is 4-2 in the playoffs. Especially when he has that record with the NY Jets.

Does he have a loud-mouth? Sure. Is he obnoxious? Sure. Is he a pretty good coach? Absolutely.

Ben is clearly better.
The ONLY thing Ben’s done that Flacco hasn’t is win the whole thing.
Yet he’s a 2 time SB champ.
Games: 13
Comp/Att/%:226/369/61.2%
Yards:2861
TD/INT:19/16
QB Rating:84.5
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Thanks for making my point, nutjob. Once again, for the hearing impaired: Flacco postseason;
4-3 4TDs 7INTs 2 fumbles. QB rating around 60. Not even a good try. Also, Flacco isn’t fit to carry Matt Ryan’s shoulder pads after practice. So what if Flacco’s better than Sanchez and Freeman, so are about 18 other QB’s. BBen is considered an elite QB by EVERYONE. Flacco is a middle of the road JAG. This would not even be a discussion amongst knowlegable FB fans outside of Balti. If Balti had BBen, they have the SB wins.

Since you love stats I looked them up, Ben has played 2 great games his ENTIRE playoff career,versus CIN and the NYJ-the rest were all average to below average. He also has a game where he had a 35.5 passer rating but still won. His “HOF” career postseason statistics read as follows:

Games: 13
Comp/Att/%:226/369/61.2%
Yards:2861
TD/INT:19/16
QB Rating:84.5

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RoetBe00/gamelog/post/

Yet he’s a 2 time SB champ. 19/16? C’mon man.
Dude is good, but he’s benefited from that great D every bit as much as Flacco. He’s just made that one extra play up to this point.

I know it’s tough to do with the way the site is presented as one long scrolling comment section, but try to keep up. The comparison I made was “Flacco, even with his flaws is > Sanchez, Ryan,and Freeman”
with an aside that Roethlisberger who HAS been to a SB and DOES have an elite defense hasn’t played well in said SBs and his team HAS had to drag him along kicking and screaming at several points, a la’ most Steeler fans common argument about Flacco.

@flavadave10 It’s not ridiculous to compare Roethlisberger and Flacco, it makes plenty sense as their teams are closely contested, in the same division, and are always battling neck and neck. I NEVER said Ben wasn’t better, you and the Pats fan made that assumption on your own. Ben is clearly better, but leaps and bounds better I’d disagree. The difference in most Ravens/Steelers games as you know is about 3-4 points. The ONLY thing Ben’s done that Flacco hasn’t is win the whole thing, but he had a 4 year head start to do so. They’ve only won 1 since Flacco has been on the team. It took Rothelisberger 4 years to be a factor in the SB(the Detroit shebacle is an affront to any reasonable football-watching person) Flacco’s in his 4th year, about to get the 2nd seed, and unlike Ben(gasp! ANOTHER comparison) he’s played every game he’s been in the league.

Comparing Flacco to Big Ben is ridiculous. This coming from a Ravens fan. Big Ben is definitely better. No question. But I think you’re selling Flacco a bit short. I’m not saying he’s elite. But he definitely doesn’t suck.

His performance in the playoffs in 2008, he was a rookie. He had to go into two hostile environments (Tennessee and Pittsburgh), didn’t have a home playoff game, and he came up huge when he needed to in the Titans game. Against the Steelers, the Ravens were just physically dead. They had their bye week unexpectedly switched to Week 2, so that game was their 17th straight game. The entire O-Line was pretty much dead at that point. Suggs was playing with one arm. I’m amazed the Ravens even stayed in that game period.

2009, he was injured pretty badly (I believe it was his hip). If any man other than Troy Smith was the backup, the backup would have probably been in there. I can’t really fault him for not playing well with a dead hip. Joe actually played a pretty big part of the Ravens even making the playoffs that year. That was the year that the Ravens defense was about as well disciplined as this year’s Detroit Lions.

2010, two plays changed that game. Both of them involved the Ravens forgetting to watch guys who they really should be watching: Polamalu and Harrison. Also, Cam Cameron’s offensive game plan for the Steelers game was a joke.

This year, Joe lost his two biggest security blankets in Mason and Heap. Any time he needed a big play, he’d go to those guys because he knew he could trust him. Also, to say Cam Cameron’s play calling this year has been horrible is an understatement. Puts way too much pressure on Joe.

So in short, no Joe is not elite. But at worst, he’s still in the top 50% of QBs. Right now, I think the problem is Cam Cameron. I say the Ravens should fire him and hire Norv Turner. And for the love of God, get Flacco a slot receiver. He does best when he has that underneath option.

To anyone who thinks the Ravens should be done with Flacco, I’d like to hear how the Ravens could reasonably upgrade at the position. Keep in mind if your answer is “Tyrod Taylor”, I will immediately judge you.

Perfect example of the most delusional, obnoxious fans in sports. First of all, I’m a Pats fan. Secondly, the reason the Steelers are better than the Ravens(I have no axe to grind) is because of the QB position. That’s the difference. Here are Flacco’s postseason numbers:

2008: 9-23 135 yds 0 TDS 0 INTS
11-22 148 1-0
13-30 141 0-3 INT
2009: 4-10 34 YDS 0-1 INT
20-35 188 yds 0-2 INT
2010: 25-34 265 2TD(only game over 200 yds, against the Chiefs).
16-30 125 1 TD 1INT 2 fumbles. Blew big lead to the Steelers.

4-3 postseason. 4TDs 7INTs. QB rating around 60.

Even Sanchez would be ashamed of those numbers, it’s laughable. No one makes better BS excuses and lives in fantasy world like raven fans. It’s always about the refs or luck or something. How about the QB sucks. If you want to compare Flacco to Sanchez, go ahead, they both suck. But you’re really trying to compare Flacco to BBen? You must be joking.

If those were your points, I missed them because your writing is poor and unclear. As for the content, ravens are in position every year because of defense and running game. they win despite Flacco not because of him. When they play good teams in the playoffs, he can’t make a play when they need him to. At least Sanchez could do that the last few years. Make all the excuses you want about Flacco, the ravens will be having the same discussion the jets are in a year or 2. Forget the finished product BS too, he’s at the end of his 4th year. He is what he is. Ravens have got to the playoffs last 3 yrs and won nothing, while Roethlisberger wins SBs.

You are making one giant assumption there…

That a guys as classy as Peyton Manning who prides himself on image and has played for a first class organization and class acts such as Dungy and Caldwell will want to be associated with and hitch the end of his career to the likes of a low class organization such as the jets (tripping, sexual harrassment suits and feet) and their hot air ‘fatty chatty’ of a head coach.

Somehow i dont see that as a match the Mannings are looking for. Manning to Miami, SF or Denver are far more likely unless of course Woody agrees to send the Rexasorous packing with his Sanchize in which case Manning could come together with a new coach and new Off coordinator…

Would be the best move the Jets could ever hope to make

Rex will trade for Peyton if Indy drafts luck. You heard it first here. Sanchez is terrible, for where he was drafted he’s a borderline BUST!

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Peyton’s playing days are over. You heard it first here.

… and get younger, fresher legs. Get a wildcat QB to replace Brad Smith!!!

1. Put Mike Tannenbaum on the hot seat.

2. Fire Brian Schottenheimer and hire Jim Fassel as the offensive coordinator.

3. Add another wide receiver for the slot and/or deep ball.

4. Dump ALL of the running backs.

5. Dump Wayne Hunter and get a REAL right tackle.

6. Get more linebackers: 1 more for the ILB position, 2 more for pass rushing, but keep Aaron Maybin for situational pass rushing!!!

7. Get a successor to Jim Leonard because Eric Smith is NOT it!!!

Wow!!! Let’s see if they’re anything else during the time of the draft!!!