Hail to the King of the Mountain – Drew Brees!!

Considering Marino never had to play in the elements, this is a very good direct comparison of how much better Brees truly is.

Quick, dream up something else for an excuse.

first of all, just because marino played in miami does not mean he didnt play in elements. you know it rains in miami, their is wind, whether its the slightest or not, their is heat and humidity to contest with. im not saying he played in chicago type conditions his whole career, but their is a major difference between playing all your games inside a perfect dome element free, compared to playing outside. drew brees did play outside in san diego though, a nice weather city, and he stunk for the most part aside from his last year and even then he lost in the playoffs to a mediocre jet team and his stats were nowhere near where they are today. maybe its because the dome and the rule changes inflate his numbers like crazy? if drew brees plays as well as he does in that dome in san fran and then in green bay and comes away with wins, then will talk, until then, your lover brees has not won a road playoff game in his career i believe.

Considering Marino never had to play in the elements, this is a very good direct comparison of how much better Brees truly is.

Quick, dream up something else for an excuse.

“Record-shattering Drew Brees threw for 466 yards and three touchdowns, ….Brees hit on 33 of 43 passes while throwing for the most yards in a regulation playoff game…….set an NFL record for yards from scrimmage this season (7,474). ” Yeah sure, Marino is better than that bwaaaahahahahahahaha.

Not since Mike Ditka have we seen quality tight ends like we see in today’s game. That one handed catch Graham made was incredible with a guy hanging on. Further evidence that these players are better and Brees is better than Marino was.

wow, thankfully the refs blew the whistle dead on brees fumble or he would have had a fumble that resulted in a td for the other team, not to mention
the dropped pick 6 by the lions and other dropped int.

brees plays in a dome every game, its not hard to put these numbers up. lets see how he does in the next game which will be in windy candlestick outdoors, and if they get by then frigid lambeau. we will see what the ”great” drew brees is made up of then. will see how spectacular his offense looks when they actually need to play in elements for a change.

“Record-shattering Drew Brees threw for 466 yards and three touchdowns, ….Brees hit on 33 of 43 passes while throwing for the most yards in a regulation playoff game…….set an NFL record for yards from scrimmage this season (7,474). ” Yeah sure, Marino is better than that bwaaaahahahahahahaha.

Not since Mike Ditka have we seen quality tight ends like we see in today’s game. That one handed catch Graham made was incredible with a guy hanging on. Further evidence that these players are better and Brees is better than Marino was.

The rules have be tweaked to help “protect” the QBs and Receivers. Fact is they force defenses to play softer to try to avoid penalties if they hit a QB or Receiver the wrong way or at the wrong time

Sorry those are facts, whether you like them or not. If you don’t understand this or don’t watch the games enough to see these facts no one here can help you.

The NFL wants higher scoring games with lots of passing because that’s what people want to see. The new rules may be as they claim to protect the players but the end result is what we see. Multiple QBs passing for over 4000 yards, with three this year passing over 5000.

The game has changed due to rule changes more than anything else.

As for the ’84/’85 49ers being one of the best Teams of all time, there is no dispute there. If you want to argue that the Bears were a better team then that’s fine, but if you want to deny that the 49ers that year were one of the best teams in the history of the league, again I can’t help you.
Since obviously anyone who believes that doesn’t really follow the NFL or hasn’t been following i long enough.

Comparing Rex Grossman to Dan Marino doesn’t deserve a response. It just shows your true colors and your bias towards Marino.

Using your little theory there I guess you would say that Doug Williams and Phil Simms were better than John Elway. Eli Manning is better than Tom Brady. Brad Johnson is better than Rich Gannon, and so on. Since when two teams meet in a Superbowl (using your Colts ’07 Manning vs the Bears and Grossman) the team with the better QB always wins.

So you don’t want to address your own little theory there, but you don’t want to go there because you know it’s a bunch of BS just like everything else you’ve posted on here.

Football is still a team game and sorry buddy but just about every time the best team is going to win ,sometimes even the team with the “inferior” QB..

HA HA HA HA. You didnt actually say its as tought playing qb today as its ever been? what the hell are you smoking?

ya, it must be very hard to play qb today when you are not allowed to get touched, sneezed on, looked at the wrong way, your wrs can run free all they want as defenders can not look at them the wrong way, but ya, your right, this is the toughest era to play qb in, lol.

now if you are a defender, i will agree, this is the toughest era to play in by far, as a defender can not do anything these days.

Let me clean up the mess you’ve just made.

The facts prove Brees is a better passer than Marino. He just broke his own record for completion percentage and he has obliterated the single season record; indisputable.

The garbage about eras and tweaking the rules is hazardous waste and will be left on your curb; baseless gibberish.

Now Marino is one of the least sacked because of his ability to avoid the rush, but not because he had a good O-line. Ok, keep trying to sell that one to your neighbor, while he can smell the sour grapes.

Instead of deflecting this to being all about defense, try to stay focused on the subject. Here’s a hint, we’re talking about QB’s.

Peyton Manning won the ’07 Super Bowl against a better team because the Bears had sub par QB who wasn’t on the same level. It’s like Marino not being at quite the same high level as Brees.

“I thought a QB could win the Superbowl all on his own.” That comment is just plain dumb and doesn’t deserve a response.

At least now you acknowledge Marino had one great year (’84/’85), but it was because they ran into a “buzz saw”, blah, blah, blah. Clearly the best team to win the Super Bowl and a team that a majority of knowledgeable experts agree is the best of all time was the ’85 Bears. No team dominated the way the Bears did during that postseason, but that’s another story.

You’re clearly a Dolphins homer and that’s great, but it has warped your thinking and revealed your bias for Danny Marino. No one is saying he wasn’t pretty good, but clearly the facts prove he was not one of the elite five QB’s to ever play the game. That elite level is occupied by better QB’s such as Montana, Brady, Brees, Manning, Elway, Favre and the record books, which are dominated by names like Brady, Brees and Manning support the fact that Marino just wasn’t on their level. It’s not a big deal, just get over it already.

I’m done repeating the facts for you, so enjoy your fantasy world in Miami.

Brees had to throw the ball more times to get as many yards as Marino had, and Brees did it in an Era where the league tweaked the rules to promote more prolific passing with higher scoring games.

Brees is more mobile than Marino was, I’ll give him that, but Marino was also great at avoiding the rush in the pocket which made he one of the least sacked QBs in his day.

People want to use inflated stats to try to make their case but then want to just overlook other facts.

In my Opinion if Brees played in Marino’s Era he would be maybe the 5 or 6th best QB behind Marino, Montana, Elway, Young, and even Jim Kelly.

If Marino was playing today with the protect the QB at all costs rules, and softer pass defense due to stricter enforcement of pass inference rules he would be averaging at least 4500 yards a season.

How many Superbowls has Brady won with the crappy defenses the Patriots have had the last few years? How many Superbowls has Manning won without the Colts defense playing out of their minds in the playoffs?

Why didn’t Brees take the Saints to the Superbowl last year? I mean they scored 36 against the Seahawks, what happened there. I thought a QB could win the Superbowl all on his own.

What happened with Brady in the 2008 Superbowl? He set records that year, they were the highest scoring offense of all time. Brady is so much better that Eli Manning, why didn’t the Patriots win that game?

True it does help having a good QB to get you to the Superbowl but they’re not going to win it all on their own, they need the rest of the players around them to also perform at a high level.

Peyton Manning, had that in ’06/’07, Brees had that in ’09/’10, Brady had that in ’01/’02, ’02/’03, ’04/’05 but when Brady had his best year ever in ’07/’08 he couldn’t get it done, hmm again I ask why? Since the best QBs always win the Superbowl.

Marino when he had his great year (’84/’85) had a good offensive team around him that was able to get to the Superbowl with a below average Defense.
In that Superbowl they faced a team which many Experts consider one of the best if not the best team of all time. The ’84/’85 49ers. Marino ran into a buzz saw which he was not able to overcome.

Same thing with Elway and his 3 trips to the Superbowl in the ’80s where they came up against teams that were just better. Other than the 49ers who had Montana none of the other teams who Elway lost to the had QBs that anyone would consider better than him. The Giants with Phil Sims and the Redskins with Doug Williams.

Not until the Broncos built a solid defense and punishing running game with Terrell Davis did Elway win the big game.

So can we blame Marino for the inability of Coach Shula to hire a top notch Personnel guy to actually draft good players to help Marino? The Dolphins had some good players on Offense around Marino in the ’80s/’90s but never had a complete team. Also Shula’s refusal to get rid of a buffoon parading as a Defensive coordinator name Tom Olivadotti also hurt the Dolphin’s chances of winning anything while Marino was in his prime.

The facts are pretty clear; Marino was good for dropping back and heaving it, which is why he was able to accumulate the yards with fewer attempts, but don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Brees has an all around better game and that’s why he’s a better QB than Marino ever hoped to be. Marino was more than mediocre, he was good, but he wasn’t great like Brees and the others you’ve mentioned.

That’s all I’m saying, the facts speak for themselves, and Brees.

Is the record now yards per attempt? Um no, it’s not. Marino is definitely not in the same class as elite QB’s like Brady, Brees, Manning or Montana.

Here’s another fact, Brees just finished the season with 71.2% completion, to break his own record, but it must be the “era” he plays in makes it easier. Marino could never, EVER throw on the run like the elite QB’s; Marino was immobile.

Here’s another newsflash, good teams with good or great quarterbacks win Superbowls; regardless of the era. Good teams without a good quarterback don’t win Superbowls; the 2007 Bears and 1984 Dolphins prove this.

Regardless of what “era” or how much football someone watches, the five best QB’s to ever play the game have won Superbowls. Marino was good, but he isn’t one of them.

Drew Brees is a great QB but to deny that the stricter enforcement of Pass interference rules in today’s NFL along with the league going out of their way to protect QBs isn’t helping inflate these passing statistics is just being foolish.

Also denying that Marino was a great QB who is right up there with Brees, Brady, Manning, and Rodgers is just being a biased troll.

People want to bring up that Marino never won a championship, which shows right there how clueless they are about the NFL.

Newsflash, QBs don’t win Superbowls alone, they need to have a good team around them.

Brees had an awesome supporting cast on offense along with a good attacking opportunistic defense when they won the Championship. When Brady won his 3 championships they had some very good defenses. When Manning and the Colts won, Dungy’s Defense stepped it up big time in the playoffs.

So Greenmttoy and all the other trolls who want to praise Brees but then crap on other QBs like Marino, I think you should go back under your bridges.

Attack on Marino? I’m just stating the facts in response to the attacks on Brees and that has someone’s panties all knotted up.

It started with this article and the headline. The guys sets a new standard and Brady’s butt boy can only talk about how close Tom is.

And then the Marino morons start sounding off. If Marino really were that good, none of that would have been necessary.

Based on the facts, Brees would be backed up by Marino.

what does that mean if marino was so good, that none of this would be neccesary?

the fact that you still believe brees is better than marino is just laughable.

im not even going to mention eras, forget that for now even though anyone who watches football knows the difference.

marino threw for 5084 yds in his 2nd year, on 564 attempts.

brees threw for 5470 yds i believe or something like that on 650 attempts.

what is more impressive? that is not even factoring in the eras they play in.

It started with this article and the headline. The guys sets a new standard and Brady’s butt boy can only talk about how close Tom is.

And then the Marino morons start sounding off. If Marino really were that good, none of that would have been necessary.

Based on the facts, Brees would be backed up by Marino.

That means that Brees was far more dominant in his era than Marino was in his.”

Agree with the “the everyone needs to stop” … it is never possible to compare different eras.

BUT … Marino averaged 317.8 yards per game, 54.4% above the league team average. Brees averages 339.1 yards per game, “only” 48.2% above the per team average. BOTH are amazing seasons … but Marino was slightly more dominant versus the league than Brees is. Does not matter … Brees owns the record now.

I think we have found Drew Brees biggest fan….My GOD you need to get REAL BRO!!!!! Im guessin Marino didnt respond to your love letters , this attack on Marino is just silly, you clearly are Drew Brees’s brother or have a huge crush on him…..COME ON—BREES in the top 5 all time…..Good lord man what have you been smoking, and the calling Marino mediocre///JESUS man I need what your on ……Ive been watching football over 30 years and seen some QBS have great years and Brees has put together a nice string of them but you need a shrink ..Marino was one of the greatest passers to ever play PERIOD…I hate the dolphins and i can say Marino was unstoppable at times, Brees is not in his category…Don shula failed at giving Marino the talent to get to a higher level, thus Marino had to carry some lousy teams…I repeat –I hate the Dolphins, but you are seriously insulting yourself by calling Marino mediocre and Brees a legend…GET HELP NOW , Im sure Brees has a wife or woman and doesnt want ya!!!

I will stick with the facts that prove clearly that Brees is a better QB than mediocre Marino.

Drew Brees has the highest career completion percentage in history of any quarterback with over 3,000 pass attempts.
FACT: Drew Brees is a more accurate, therefore a better passer than mediocre Marino.

Drew Brees has more 4,000 yard plus passing seasons with seven fewer seasons played than Marino.
FACT: Drew Brees is a better passer and tougher than mediocre Marino.

Brees averages more TD passes per season than Marino.
FACT: Drew Brees is a more productive QB and generates more offense than mediocre Marino.

Drew Brees has 17 NFL records, mediocre Marino only has nine with seven more seasons than Drew Brees.
FACT: At this pace Drew Brees will have more than three times as many NFL records than mediocre Marino, but probably well beyond that because he’ll surpass records that mediocre Marino had.

Drew Brees singlehandedly turned around a mediocre franchise in New Orleans.
FACT: Any GM that would pick Marino over Brees would be picking a loser over a Super Bowl winner and MVP. Those would be GM’s from Cleveland, Jacksonville, Miami, Detroit or Minnesota.

These are not worthless opinions, these are the FACTS that prove Drew Brees is a better QB than mediocre Marino.

Now get your nose out of mediocre Marino’s butt and get a life; praising a loser is not a life.

the fact is it took brees 58 more passing attempts to get 3 more yds than marino did in his 84 season. that is a fact.

although this isnt a fact, but an opinion that anyone with a brain would agree with is that marino did it in an era where it was a lot harder to accomplish what he did, and it was very rare.

another opinion that many people with a brain would agree on is that marino would be choosen by any gm if they can choose one of the 2 both in their prime.

You are correct on one thing; Brees is not on Marino’s level, we agree. Brees is beyond any level Marino aspired to. In their prime, Marino would be Brees backup. Keep going back to Brees’ first five years in SD, if that makes you fell all warm and fuzzy about Marino. Marino had a couple of good years in ’84 & ’86, beyond that he was ok. Brees has more 4,000 yard plus passing seasons with seven fewer seasons played than Marino and they both played in dome like environments. Miami isn’t exactly Chicago in December. Brees averages more TD passes per season than Marino. Brees is more durable than Marino was and that includes suffering the shoulder injury that many suspected would end his career.

Brees has 17 NFL records, Marino has nine with seven fewer seasons. If anyone with a fifth grade level of NFL knowledge had to pick five QB’s out of Brees, Brady, Manning, Montana, Favre or Marino, then little Danny would be the little kid left sucking his thumb on the playground limping around with a skirt on.

Mediocre Marino isn’t among the top five and would be lucky to be in the top 10; that’s just the facts and they are clear. Clearly Brees plays the position much better than Marino and the stats prove it with seven fewer seasons. I think that is what has your panties in a knot.

wow, what a fool. marino would only last 5 years in todays game? ha ha ha, wow. ya, because todays game is so violent, no one would survive. if anything, qbs lifespans in todays game will probably be prolonged due to the fact that they are not allowed to get sneezed on, let alone touched anymore.

dude, keep sucking brees dick, he is not in marinos level. brees is a system qb, he was so average on san diego at best, never even came close to putting up these numbers that he has on the saints, now all the sudden, the rules change in the league, drew brees plays in a perfect system for him, gets to play in a dome basically every game, and now his stats are similar to marino with attempting 60 plus more passes.

no one in their right mind would choose drew brees over dan marino if they were able to choose a qb in their prime. dan marino shreds drew brees in his prime. i am so looking forward to drew brees going to green bay in the cold in jan, he will have a nightmeare day, because he wont be playing in his nice cozy dome.

ill take it your a little kid and have never seen marino play live, because if you watch both qbs, and you honestly think that drew brees plays the position better than dan marino, then you need help.

you talk about marino not being able to play more than 5 years in todays game, that is probably the funniest comment i have read on this site. you want to talk about a player not being able to last 5 years? lets put drew brees in the 1980′s, the guy is out of the league in probably less than 5 years, and is not remembered by anybody. get real.

As for Sanders, very good, no doubt about that, but he’s a solid third behind Payton & Brown.

Thumb me down all you like, I don’t have 5 million characters to fully properly illustrate why.

“Marino is definitely not in the top five because those spots are occupied by Brady, Brees, Montana, Elway, Manning. In the next group we have Bradshaw, Young, Tarkenton, Aikman, Graham, Favre, Unitas. I’ll concede that Danny boy could potentially replace Tarkenton in the top 12, but marginally at best.”

You rank Brees, Elway and Manning over Graham, Favre, and Unitas? Brees and Manning play in domes for heaven’s sake. And Elway couldn’t win w/o T.D., Denver’s now illegal cut-blocking scheme, and not to mention an over-the-salary cap illegal roster.