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Despite not being on the ballot, Jason Pierre-Paul is Pro Bowl bound

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The Pro Bowl ballot included plenty of players.  The name “Jason Pierre-Paul” wasn’t among them.  Which means that, of the 33 percent of the voting based on the input of the fans, Pierre-Paul was at a major disadvantage.

And yet he still made the NFC team, thanks to the votes from the players and coaches.

Pierre-Paul, a first-round pick in 2010 viewed as a multi-year project, has had a major impact in his second NFL season.  He’ll be the understudy to Vikings defensive end Jared Allen and Eagles defensive end Jason Babin.

The rest of the starting defense for the NFC consists of 49ers defensive lineman Justin Smith, Cowboys defensive lineman Jay Ratliff, Cowboys outside linebacker DeMarcus Ware, Packers outside linebacker Clay Matthews, 49ers inside linebacker Patrick Willis, Packers cornerback Charles Woodson, 49ers cornerback Carlos Rogers, Seahawks safety Earl Thomas, and Cardinals safety Adrian Wilson.

The offensive starters for the NFC are quarterback Aaron Rodgers, Eagles running back LeSean McCoy, Packers fullback John Kuhn, Lions receiver Calvin Johnson, Cardinals receiver Larry Fitzgerald, Saints tight end Jimmy Graham, Eagles tackle Jason Peters, 49ers tackle Joe Staley, Saints guards Carl Nicks and Jahri Evans, and Panthers center Ryan Kalil.

The specialists are 49ers kicker David Akers, 49ers punter Andy Lee, Cardinals kick returner Patrick Peterson, and Bears special-teamer Corey Graham.

The backups are Saints quarterback Drew Brees, Giants quarterback Eli Manning, Bears running back Matt Forte, 49ers running back Frank Gore, Panthers receiver Steve Smith, Packers receiver Greg Jennings, Falcons tight end Tony Gonzalez, Saints tackle Jermon Bushrod, Buccaneers guard Davin Joseph, Packers center Scott Wells, Packers nose tackle B.J. Raji, Bears linebackers Lance Briggs and Brian Urlacher, Bears cornerback Charles Tillman, and 49ers safety Dashon Goldson.

Notable omissions from the NFC team include Vikings running back Adrian Peterson, Panthers quarterback Cam Newton, and Giants receiver Victor Cruz.  Though Peterson missed a couple of games with an ankle injury, Forte played in only 12 games.

Also, the fact that 49ers rookie Aldon Smith is technically a linebacker should have propelled him past Clay Matthews, who hasn’t been as dominant in 2011 as he was a year ago.

The fact that rookie Patrick Peterson jumped Devin Hester for the kick returner role will raise some eyebrows, too, as will the absence of Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford.

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98 Responses to “Despite not being on the ballot, Jason Pierre-Paul is Pro Bowl bound”
  1. ilovefootball25 says: Dec 27, 2011 7:26 PM

    Good for him. He definitely deserved it.

  2. zaggs says: Dec 27, 2011 7:31 PM

    Of course. He’s 4th in the league in sacks yet isn’t a starter.
    Yet no Victor Cruz? Seriously? Dude is only 3rd in receiving yards. And thats third in the NFL, not NFC. He’s tied with Fitzgerald with 8 TD’s, yet wasn’t even a starter. Hell he wasn’t even the 3rd receiver on the Giants when the season started. Guess the rest of the NFL is like Cromartie and can’t stand a Puerto Rican as a receiver.

  3. marvin49 says: Dec 27, 2011 7:32 PM

    Aldon Smith had the same disadvantage and didn’t make it. Gratz to Pierre-Paul

  4. bkostela says: Dec 27, 2011 7:32 PM

    victor cruz must not have done enough to overcome the 33% disadvantage

  5. gosuhgo says: Dec 27, 2011 7:32 PM

    Cliff Avril had 11 sacks, 6 forced fumbles, 1 pick and 2 defensive touchdowns. Lions got hosed…

  6. jbl429 says: Dec 27, 2011 7:33 PM

    JPP has been dominant, and if he didn’t get to the pro bowl it would have been one of the biggest snubs in a long time. The kid is looking to be a perennial pro bowler.

  7. nyyjetsknicks says: Dec 27, 2011 7:33 PM

    JPP is a beast. No one can deny that.

  8. jimmysee says: Dec 27, 2011 7:33 PM

    John Kuhn made the Pro Bowl — YES!

  9. linvillegorge says: Dec 27, 2011 7:36 PM

    From the Panthers’ perspective, Chris Gamble got snubbed. He’s been a shutdown CB this year and the only bright spot in that secondary. On the other side of the ball, DeAngelo Williams doesn’t deserve to be an alternate.

  10. eigglesnosuperbowls says: Dec 27, 2011 7:37 PM

    Babin 38 tackles JPP 81 tackles

  11. linvillegorge says: Dec 27, 2011 7:37 PM

    That’s cool that Tebow gets his own post for being an alternate, but the actual good QB who is an alternate for the NFC in Cam Newton can’t even get a mention in a post about the NFC roster.

  12. marvin49 says: Dec 27, 2011 7:40 PM

    @jbl429

    Yet he only has 1.5 more sacks than Aldon Smith who is a rookie and also not listed as a starter.

    Not taking anything away from the king of the backflip, but it looks like the NFL will be well stocked with young pass-rushers for many, many years.

  13. hellawaitsusall says: Dec 27, 2011 7:40 PM

    Now, JPP should not go to the game. it’s worthless and stupid. Just naming these players to the team should be good enough.

  14. binarybulge says: Dec 27, 2011 7:42 PM

    You’re not even putting Stafford in your list of notable omissions? From a Packers fan, I must beg you, please stop showing the Lions disrespect. I don’t want them to have the extra motivation.

  15. panthers34 says: Dec 27, 2011 7:42 PM

    Jordan Gross anchor’s a line that has allowed Newton to rush for 14 td’s and throw for 20 and gets no love……

  16. dionoil says: Dec 27, 2011 7:43 PM

    Ill say it… Cam Newton should have made it over Eli. My opinion of course, but he better be the 1st alternate

  17. fatdaddy73 says: Dec 27, 2011 7:44 PM

    Seriously??? Eli over Matt Stafford??? OK whatever you say. smh

    Also, Cruz definitely deserves to be there.

  18. binarybulge says: Dec 27, 2011 7:44 PM

    linvillegorge says:
    Dec 27, 2011 7:37 PM
    That’s cool that Tebow gets his own post for being an alternate, but the actual good QB who is an alternate for the NFC in Cam Newton can’t even get a mention in a post about the NFC roster.

    You’d vote Newton over Stafford, or even Eli? Newton has been MUCH better than I ever expected, but he’s still thrown 16 INTs and only put up an 85 rating. No thanks. Rookie of the year? Yes. Pro Bowl? No.

  19. jaggedmark says: Dec 27, 2011 7:46 PM

    The only category Eli Manning leads Stafford in is “dumb looking facial expressions”

  20. tdrundmc says: Dec 27, 2011 7:46 PM

    How the heck does Matt Stafford not get picked?

  21. beastson says: Dec 27, 2011 7:46 PM

    Newton is first alternate so unless Brees and Rodgers both don’t make this year’s Superbowl, he’s in Hawaii

  22. earthtopft says: Dec 27, 2011 7:46 PM

    He made up for the disadvantage by having three first names and earning duplicate votes from single voters.

  23. ratedrsuperstar1331 says: Dec 27, 2011 7:46 PM

    Chris Long missing out is disappointng. Can’t say I expected it, considering St. Louis’ record.

  24. pappageorgio says: Dec 27, 2011 7:48 PM

    Lions did get hosed.

    The chiefs sent 2 defenders. The 32nd ranked D in the NFL sent three. Raji goes over Suh despite having a horrible 1st half of the season

    Manning over stafford? We must of forgotten the stat column….win/loss record….and the fact MS did it without a running game.

    And one that pisses me off…….Brandon Pettigrew. Third among NFC TEs in receptions…….but pettigrew does something that all these “pro-bowl” TEs don’t: he actually blocks. He’s an every down TE…..there was recent artical that said as a blocker BP grades out better grades out better than like 50% of offensive linemen. But since he doesn’t have a high number of 20+ yd receptions, he’ll never get a look.

  25. trbowman says: Dec 27, 2011 7:48 PM

    How was he not on the ballot? The guy has played at a DPOY level.

    Good for him.

    Andy Levitre and George Wilson both snubbed, in addition to Freddy Jackson. Bills can’t get any love!

  26. fatdaddy73 says: Dec 27, 2011 7:49 PM

    Matt Stafford— 36 td 14 int 4518 yds 96.6 rating
    Eli Manning — 26 td 16 int 4587 yds 90.3 rating

  27. linkinxr says: Dec 27, 2011 7:50 PM

    Aldon smith on great defense with pro bowlers and alternates. Jpp not so much so he shines more. Good for him but Aldon smith got jobbed.

  28. pbolyard says: Dec 27, 2011 7:52 PM

    Eli over Stafford is BS

  29. osrude says: Dec 27, 2011 7:54 PM

    As a Packers fan, I love seeing Jennings get the nod. But…

    I think Jordy Nelson maybe should’ve gotten it.

  30. mvpolamalu says: Dec 27, 2011 7:55 PM

    It sucks that hester didnt make it but peterson deserved it over him this year

  31. ryanclark25 says: Dec 27, 2011 7:56 PM

    Shows in some cases how the fans opinions should be factored even less in the process, didn’t they give the 3 ol top votes to packers and only the center got in as a backup.

  32. ryan6 says: Dec 27, 2011 7:56 PM

    MATTHEW STAFFORD> ELI

  33. panthers34 says: Dec 27, 2011 7:59 PM

    I’m a die hard Carolina fan and can admit that Stafford should have made it/be first alternate.

  34. zaggs says: Dec 27, 2011 8:00 PM

    “fatdaddy73 says: Dec 27, 2011 7:49 PM

    Matt Stafford— 36 td 14 int 4518 yds 96.6 rating
    Eli Manning — 26 td 16 int 4587 yds 90.3 rating”

    Stafford also has a lesser average, 50 more attempts, 10 more sacks, doesn’t play in a run first offense (despite having running backs with better averages than the Giants), and arguably the best receiver in the league to go along with the fact 10 of his games were indoors.

  35. lionsfan49418 says: Dec 27, 2011 8:01 PM

    Absolute travesty that Eli made it over Stafford. Really? Why?? Cliff Avril anyone?

  36. eigglesnosuperbowls says: Dec 27, 2011 8:04 PM

    JPP yeah you know me,,, I almost got more tackles than babin and allen combined !

  37. evomike06 says: Dec 27, 2011 8:08 PM

    London Fletcher got stiffed again..

  38. zaggs says: Dec 27, 2011 8:10 PM

    Do all the cry baby lions fans realize that Stafford isn’t even the 4th QB? He’s 5th at best since sources are saying Newton is the first alternate.
    Oh and Stafford has had as many 4th quarter comebacks is his entire career as Eli has had this year alone.

  39. muihtil says: Dec 27, 2011 8:21 PM

    It’s a good thing this game is a complete joke and no one actually watches it, or I’d be angry London Fletcher was left off (again).

  40. maddenwizkid says: Dec 27, 2011 8:24 PM

    Lots of valid points made. Seems like most of the guys who got snubbed will be monsters for years to come. But Cruz is a travesty I’d have put him over fitzy this year sorry Cruz has been a game changer plus I’m not racist and love the salsa dance

  41. promin1 says: Dec 27, 2011 8:29 PM

    Who cares? Its funny all the losers arguing who made the pro bowl, yet I’d bet money they don’t even watch it. Does anybody?

  42. thestrunzo says: Dec 27, 2011 8:34 PM

    The Niner’s Aldon Smith was robbed of his spot as a starting DE and/or OLB with Pierre-Paiul and/or Clay Matthews getting selected. Though he’s listed as an OLB he plays more of DE position, or at least has this season since he’s a rookie that is being moved from his DE position in college to the OLB position in the 3-4 that the Niners employ. Yeah, Pierre-Paul may have 15.5 sacks to Smith’s 14, but Smith didn’t get to playing time until week 3, and even then he’s only was a part time player for his first few games. Pound for pound, play for play Aldon Smith has had a better year than Pierre-Paul or Clay Matthews and I bet if you asked every NFL head coach who’d they pick between the three who’s had the better year, and who’d they want on their team, most would pick Smith over Pierre-Paul or Matthews.

    ILB Novarro Bowman was also robbed of his spot over the way more popular Brian Urlacher and Lance Briggs. Bowman has actually out played Patrick Willis this year by most Niner beat writter’s accounts, so if he’s playing as good or better than Willis, he def should be ahead Urlacher or Briggs. He’s just a casualty of popularity contest the ProBowl selection really is.

  43. gcsuk says: Dec 27, 2011 8:40 PM

    pappageorgio says:
    Dec 27, 2011 7:48 PM
    Lions did get hosed.

    Manning over stafford? We must of forgotten the stat column….win/loss record….and the fact MS did it without a running game.
    ——————————————————-
    You’re right. The Lions Running Game (ranked 29th) was terrible. But the Giants running game (ranked 32nd) was worse. As a matter of fact, it was the worst running game in the league.

    Try another argument.

  44. ham1 says: Dec 27, 2011 8:43 PM

    This is a joke.
    No London Fletcher, not even as a back up.
    Piss poor. Thats what that is, piss poor.

  45. bigbluefan1 says: Dec 27, 2011 8:50 PM

    Good for JPP Cruz should have the honor as well but with a bit of luck they may both be busy that weekend getting ready to beat the Pats again

  46. valman61 says: Dec 27, 2011 8:50 PM

    Thestrunzo

    JPP was limited to 45 snaps a game and wasn’t even a starter until tuck n Osi were hurt. He’s also been the primary focus of every offensive line he’s played with tuck n Osi having bad years. SF has Willis and Bowman who generally garner the attention. To summarize, JPP has had a better season in every measurable and noticeable way imaginable. He’s also a better player and it’s not even close. JPP and Peppers are the only two DEs at that level.

  47. gcsuk says: Dec 27, 2011 8:50 PM

    thestrunzo says:
    Dec 27, 2011 8:34 PM
    The Niner’s Aldon Smith was robbed of his spot as a starting DE and/or OLB with Pierre-Paiul and/or Clay Matthews getting selected. Though he’s listed as an OLB he plays more of DE position, or at least has this season since he’s a rookie that is being moved from his DE position in college to the OLB position in the 3-4 that the Niners employ. Yeah, Pierre-Paul may have 15.5 sacks to Smith’s 14, but Smith didn’t get to playing time until week 3, and even then he’s only was a part time player for his first few games. Pound for pound, play for play Aldon Smith has had a better year than Pierre-Paul or Clay Matthews and I bet if you asked every NFL head coach who’d they pick between the three who’s had the better year, and who’d they want on their team, most would pick Smith over Pierre-Paul or Matthews.
    ————————————————–Oh yeah, Aldon Smith got robbed by Pierre-Paul. Lets see…

    Games played (JPP 15, AS 15)
    Sacks (JPP 15.5, AS 14)
    Tackles (JPP 81, AS 35)
    Solo Tackles (JPP 61, AS 29)
    Safetys (1 each)
    Passes Defended (JPP 6, AS 4)
    Forced Fumbles (2 each)

    Sorry, but JPP is ahead of (or tied with) Aldon Smith in every measurable category. Yes, Smith is having an excellent, even Pro Bowl worthy season. But not everyone can make it. Smith DID NOT get robbed.

  48. rmc1995 says: Dec 27, 2011 8:59 PM

    @Zaggs,
    Stafford has 50 more attempts and 50 more completions. He has a better completion percentage, better rating, more touchdowns more wins, fewer ints. Calvin Johnson wasn’t the best wide receiver in the NFL until this year…Stafford’s first full season.

  49. trefkennedy says: Dec 27, 2011 8:59 PM

    It bugs me how no offensive starters from TeamCowboys yet Tony Romo is 3rd best qb in NFC smh who has more td’s as a receiving corps??

  50. earthtopft says: Dec 27, 2011 9:05 PM

    Hey, how come my guys aren’t on there and the other guys are?

  51. jkay1818 says: Dec 27, 2011 9:10 PM

    that person that keeps making the aldon smith argument how he got snubbed and JPP got in. Come on girl, your argument that he has 1 less sack than JPP is weak. You do realize that JPP hasnt started a lot of games either right? not to mention one plays de/dt the other is mainly a LB and pierre paul is going to end the yr with close to 100 tackles as opposed to smith with about 40 tackles. Plus he gets doubled and also blocks FG’s. Other than that, youre right.

    the stafford and eli argument isnt as cut and dry either. Someone mentioned stafford’s bad running game, the giants have by far and away the worst ranked run game in football, Stafford’s line is far superior, The giants oline is a train wreck, The giants wr’s and te’s lead the entire NFL in dropped passes. stafford has also played about 70% of his games indoors as opposed to winter weather and Eli has faced better defenses all season. The w/L argument is kinda off too since the lions have a nasty defense and the giants defense is probably the worst in the NFL too, aside from pierre paul.

  52. lks311 says: Dec 27, 2011 9:21 PM

    gcsuk says:
    Dec 27, 2011 8:40 PM
    pappageorgio says:
    Dec 27, 2011 7:48 PM
    Lions did get hosed.

    Manning over stafford? We must of forgotten the stat column….win/loss record….and the fact MS did it without a running game.
    ——————————————————-
    You’re right. The Lions Running Game (ranked 29th) was terrible. But the Giants running game (ranked 32nd) was worse. As a matter of fact, it was the worst running game in the league.

    Try another argument.
    ——————————————–
    I agree with gcsuk, the running game is a horrible argument. Pappageorgio, I would try this one. This year, using every meaningful statistical measurement, Stafford was better.

  53. garyman1 says: Dec 27, 2011 9:23 PM

    Jason Pierre-Paul ?

    I”m glad all 3 of those guys got in.

  54. swarlesbarrkley says: Dec 27, 2011 9:37 PM

    zaggs says:
    Dec 27, 2011 8:00 PM
    “fatdaddy73 says: Dec 27, 2011 7:49 PM

    Matt Stafford— 36 td 14 int 4518 yds 96.6 rating
    Eli Manning — 26 td 16 int 4587 yds 90.3 rating”

    Stafford also has a lesser average, 50 more attempts, 10 more sacks, doesn’t play in a run first offense (despite having running backs with better averages than the Giants), and arguably the best receiver in the league to go along with the fact 10 of his games were indoors.

    ______

    don’t forget he had 2 more wins to date either. and hakeem/victor are really bad players, right?

  55. kdizzle22 says: Dec 27, 2011 9:41 PM

    I understand staffords numbers but Eli has done this with losing two of his favorite targets to free agency (smith and boss) and not much time to get accuented with his once no name receiving core. Not to mention the leagues worst run game so Eli has practically put the team on his back and has a chance to lead them to the playoffs. Which is why he got most of his votes from players and coaches.

  56. jerseyshoregiant says: Dec 27, 2011 10:01 PM

    For all you JPP haters. Show me another NFC DE that has the TOTAL overall statistics that JPP has. Don’t list just the sacks. Let’s go I want to see tackles,forced fumbles, etc. But do yourselves a favor and look up JPP stat’s before you reply because I have a feeling you will forget about your guy getting snubbed. I will venture to say that JPP has more SOLO tackles than most others have combined and let’s not forget he didn’t even start every game. The guy is not just a pass rusher!!

  57. jerseyshoregiant says: Dec 27, 2011 10:06 PM

    lks311 says:Dec 27, 2011 9:21 PM

    gcsuk says:
    Dec 27, 2011 8:40 PM
    pappageorgio says:
    Dec 27, 2011 7:48 PM
    Lions did get hosed.

    Manning over stafford? We must of forgotten the stat column….win/loss record….and the fact MS did it without a running game.
    ——————————————————-
    You’re right. The Lions Running Game (ranked 29th) was terrible. But the Giants running game (ranked 32nd) was worse. As a matter of fact, it was the worst running game in the league.

    Try another argument.
    ——————————————–
    I agree with gcsuk, the running game is a horrible argument. Pappageorgio, I would try this one. This year, using every meaningful statistical measurement, Stafford was better.
    ———————————————
    Let’s also not forget that Eli has basically put this team on his shoulders to get them to where they even are. (a chance to win the Division). Let’s also not forget the Giants have clearly played the toughest schedule in the league this year. Let’s also not forget that Eli has turned an Unknown receiver into household name.

  58. jerseyshoregiant says: Dec 27, 2011 10:10 PM

    linkinxr says:Dec 27, 2011 7:50 PM

    Aldon smith on great defense with pro bowlers and alternates. Jpp not so much so he shines more. Good for him but Aldon smith got jobbed.
    ———————————————–
    Well on the flip side, some might say Smith BENEFITED from a great defense with other pro bowlers and alternates while JPP has be double teamed constantly and is a wrecking crew. Sorry but if JPP was on the ballot he would have easily made the team with the year he is having.

  59. poochpunt says: Dec 27, 2011 10:49 PM

    What a joke.. Brett “America’s Favorite” Favre got snubbed.

  60. simplesimon1 says: Dec 27, 2011 11:03 PM

    I’m a Lions fan and I can’t believe that Eli Manning got put in the ProBowl over Stafford, or Newton for that matter. In every statistical category Stafford is better. But in the end, who cares? It’s a pathetic, pointless game. People basically get voted in for their name instead of their year most often. This proves it, as does Philip Rivers getting voted in. In the end, the Lions are in the playoffs and that’s all that matters. If anything, Lions fans should thank the league for showing us no respect. This should motivate the team entering the playoffs even more than they would have been. For God sake…..Tampa Bay as many as us in the ProBowl, KC has more than us and so do the Panthers…..LOL

    Maybe this is the extra motivation needed to get to the Superbowl…..:)…..Here’s to the playoffs!!!

  61. fatdaddy73 says: Dec 27, 2011 11:13 PM

    zaggs says:
    Dec 27, 2011 8:00 PM
    “fatdaddy73 says: Dec 27, 2011 7:49 PM

    Matt Stafford— 36 td 14 int 4518 yds 96.6 rating
    Eli Manning — 26 td 16 int 4587 yds 90.3 rating”

    Stafford also has a lesser average, 50 more attempts, 10 more sacks, doesn’t play in a run first offense (despite having running backs with better averages than the Giants), and arguably the best receiver in the league to go along with the fact 10 of his games were indoors.

    ————————————————–

    Your lack of facts is appalling, let me enlighten you…
    Matt Stafford — 63.7% 34 sacks
    Eli Manning — 60.3% 26 sacks

    I’ll take the 8 extra sacks for 10 extra tds and 2 less picks any day, so would Giants fans…

  62. superboys5x says: Dec 27, 2011 11:20 PM

    Romo is clearly the 3rd best QB in the NFC 102.2 rating is far superior to Manning and Stafford and he turns the ball over much less than both of them. I hate the anti-Romo campaign out there. He is a true professional and an actual roll model among a lot of clowns, premadonnas and criminals.

  63. fatdaddy73 says: Dec 27, 2011 11:25 PM

    Zaggs says:

    Do all the cry baby lions fans realize that Stafford isn’t even the 4th QB? He’s 5th at best since sources are saying Newton is the first alternate.
    Oh and Stafford has had as many 4th quarter comebacks is his entire career as Eli has had this year alone.

    ————————————————-
    Again, your stats are complete BS, Stafford led the team to HUGE 2nd half comebacks in TB, MIN, DAL, at home to CAR, and in OAK. Anything else?

  64. rmc1995 says: Dec 27, 2011 11:27 PM

    Eli lost Smith. So what? Nicks is not some unknown. He’s had two thousand yard 70 catch seasons in a row. Cruz was the beneficiary of the the attention Nicks got just like Smith was. Since when has being swept by the Redskins mean the Giants have a difficult schedule?

  65. superboys5x says: Dec 27, 2011 11:31 PM

    Here is an interesting stat last 8 games:
    Romo 2 int, 7 games with no ints. 20 Tds
    Manning 11 int, 1 or more int in each game. 11 Tds

    Sorry but the votes blew it on this one. Eli does not belong, Stafford should have been voted over Overrated Eli as well.

  66. darthhitman77 says: Dec 27, 2011 11:34 PM

    Stafford played indoors and rarely played in winter weather???? SERIOUSLY??? Peyton’s brother has played in winter weather all year? I don’t care what kind of offenses they play in, how bad the run games are, who has a better defense etc. WHO HAD THE BETTER STATS?!?! If Peyton’s brother can’t produce numbers “to his potential” due to scheme etc. then perhaps he should LEAVE NY and go somewhere that could more adequately put his true, “elite” skills on display so that we may avoid this BS the next time huh. I PRAY NYG wins Sunday night and we hold down the 5 seed, settle this in the playoffs head to head then Peyton’s brother can go home for the year and help nurse him back to health. I swear, if it wasn’t for the fact his brother is Peyton Manning, he didn’t play in NYC and he didn’t have 1, epic game I wouldn’t have even known what his name was at one time

  67. darthhitman77 says: Dec 27, 2011 11:39 PM

    SORRY, I would still remember who he was…he’s the guy who threw the temper tantrum and cried was sucking his thumb and holding his binky weally tight on draft day

  68. simplesimon1 says: Dec 27, 2011 11:46 PM

    @superboys5x

    First, I agree that the Romo bashing gets old. I like Romo. That being said, Stafford has had an incredible year. And it’s his first full year and he’s only 23 years old. He’s barely thrown more INT’s than Romo and 9 of those 14 you see came when he had a broken index finger on his throwing hand. Outside the games played with a broken finger he has 33 TD’s and 5 INT’s. Fact is, Stafford has many years left to grow and that’s scary considering he’s in the elite category of stats this year already. Also, he’s been the difference. Calvin has always been good. Wonder why he’s having a breakout year……It’s because he finally has an elite QB throwing to him.

    I’m now hoping to play the Giants first round. We’ll see who the ProBowl QB is.

  69. ray0414 says: Dec 28, 2011 12:29 AM

    manning was 9 out of 27 in that last win over the jets, yea thats real good, and the week before that against a crappy redskin team manning had 3 picks in what could have been a division clincher. all stafford does is go on the road and throw 4tds and 380 yds against OAK and the comes home to throw for 390 and 3tds against a chargers team taht just destroyed the ravens a week before. i think eli got the votes based on first half the season, not 2nd half when it really counts.

  70. ray0414 says: Dec 28, 2011 12:30 AM

    oh and before u say chargers suck i believe they have the number 6 or 7 rated defense against the pass!

  71. niceh11 says: Dec 28, 2011 12:38 AM

    @ Simplesimeon1

    Haah, I hope we play you. Not only do we have a pro bowler as a QB, but he also happens to be a super bowl MVP who orchestrated the greatest playoff push in history and has more dramatic 4th quarter comebacks this year than any other quarterback.

    If you’re asking to come play a clutch, icewater-veined quarterback, then yes, hope for the 5 seed.

    #ELI

  72. kdizzle22 says: Dec 28, 2011 12:39 AM

    rmc1995 How can u say nicks has replaced smith. Smith played in the slot and was more of a possession receiver where nicks plays outside and is more of a threat downfield. Some people should at least get their facts right before commenting.

  73. kdizzle22 says: Dec 28, 2011 12:58 AM

    Stafford has 48 more attempts than Eli. So if Eli had those attempts completing 60% of them as he has all season at an average of 8.25 yards per catch (which is what he has up to this point) then he should have 283 more yards which would mean he would only need 200 and change against Dallas to have a 5000 yard season. This would be significantly better than stafford so if Eli had the same number of attempts his stats would be much better than staffords are right now. This is also not taking into account Eli’s ridiculous 4th quarter numbers. STOP COMPLAINING LIONS FANS.

  74. jebdamone says: Dec 28, 2011 2:56 AM

    other than jared allen JPP has probably been the most dominant DL in the league and has done it while not even starting all the time.

  75. truthserum4u says: Dec 28, 2011 3:40 AM

    zaggs says:Dec 27, 2011 8:00 PM

    “fatdaddy73 says: Dec 27, 2011 7:49 PM

    Matt Stafford— 36 td 14 int 4518 yds 96.6 rating
    Eli Manning — 26 td 16 int 4587 yds 90.3 rating”

    Stafford also has a lesser average, 50 more attempts, 10 more sacks, doesn’t play in a run first offense (despite having running backs with better averages than the Giants), and arguably the best receiver in the league to go along with the fact 10 of his games were indoors.

    ——————————————–

    Stafford has 48 more attempts and 50 more completions than Manning. While Stafford has been sacked more often, he has fumbled less (5 times losing one) than Manning (8 fumbles losing 4). Manning does have a higher Yards Per Attempt and passing yards, but Stafford has him in completion %, TDs, fewer INTs and QB rating.

    lionsfan49418 says:Dec 27, 2011 8:01 PM

    Absolute travesty that Eli made it over Stafford. Really? Why?? Cliff Avril anyone?

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    So who do you take out in his stead?

    eigglesnosuperbowls says:Dec 27, 2011 8:04 PM

    JPP yeah you know me,,, I almost got more tackles than babin and allen combined !

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    I guess, if 81 is almost 99.

  76. truthserum4u says: Dec 28, 2011 3:48 AM

    jerseyshoregiant says:Dec 27, 2011 10:06 PM

    Let’s also not forget the Giants have clearly played the toughest schedule in the league this year. Let’s also not forget that Eli has turned an Unknown receiver into household name.

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    Not true!

    Giants strength of schedule: .521
    Detroits strength of schedule: .533

    Detroit’s strength of schedule is the toughest amongst playoff teams.

  77. truthserum4u says: Dec 28, 2011 4:08 AM

    @ jerseyshoregiant

    As to your last line: I’ve seen some of Cruz’s catches and subsequent yac; I think he’s turned himself into a household name. He definately belongs over Jennings this year.

    Matthews seems to be another one making it on reputation and team success. He has nice all around numbers but not really Pro Bowl worthy. He’s 8th on his own team in total tackles; behind two other linebackers who have played in three less games (59 more tackles) and two fewer games (30 more tackles). I guess his 3 INTs and 6 sacks out way Aldon Smith’s 14 sacks.

  78. bearsrulepackdrool says: Dec 28, 2011 4:17 AM

    Anybody see the problem with the selection of the “interior linemen”?

    Sack leaders among interior linemen (sack #:
    NFC:
    Calais Campbell (ARI) – 8
    Henry Melton (CHI) – 7
    Justin Smith (SF) – 6.5 (selected)
    Stephen Bowen (WAS) – 6
    Adam Carriker (WAS) – 5.5
    Cullen Jenkins (PHI) – 5.5
    Ray McDonald (SF) – 5.5
    Jason Hatcher (DAL) – 4
    Amobi Okoye (CHI) – 4
    Kevin Williams (MIN) – 4
    Chris Canty (NYG) – 3
    (3 more NFC players with 3 sacks)
    B.J. Raji (GB) – 3 (selected)
    (10 more NFC players)
    Jay Ratliff (DAL) – 2 (selected)

    AFC:
    Geno Atkins (CIN) – 8
    Karl Klug (TEN) – 7
    Pernell McGee (BAL) – 6
    Marcel Dareus (BUF) – 5.5
    Richard Seymour (OAK) – 6 (selected)
    J.J. Watt (HOU) – 5.5
    Haloti Ngata (BAL) – 5.5 (selected)
    Jared Odrick (MIA) – 5
    Corey Redding (BAL) – 4.5
    Antonio Smith (HOU) – 4.5
    Cam Thomas (SD) – 4
    Randy Starks (MIA) – 3.5
    (10 more AFC players)
    Vince Wilfork (NE) – 2.5 (selected)

    This is a lot of snubs.

  79. gcsuk says: Dec 28, 2011 5:40 AM

    Wow, I never realized that Lions fans were such crybabies. I mean, whining over whether Stafford made the team in such a meaningless game? I’m sorry, but I doubt that Stafford even cares that much.

    Maybe the Pro Bowl is like the Oscars. Sometimes you “win” based on your body of work, not as much by the film you made. I mean, why else did Scorcese win for “The Departed” and not “Taxi Driver” “GoodFellas” or “Raging Bull”? This is statistically Eli’s best year, and coaches and players are looking at the entire body of work, as compared to Staffords lone complete season.

  80. mikea311 says: Dec 28, 2011 7:28 AM

    Eli is the ONLY reason the Giants even have a shot at the playoffs.

    At least Detroit has a defense.

  81. cornersportsnet says: Dec 28, 2011 7:35 AM

    Cruz should be in hester should be in,congrats to pat peterson

  82. pixelito says: Dec 28, 2011 7:54 AM

    Aldon who?

  83. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 28, 2011 8:05 AM

    Babin is a one trick pony and a joke.

  84. kev86 says: Dec 28, 2011 8:24 AM

    I think Stafford backers have solid points but should be careful evaluating Eli on numbers alone. If you have watched every Giants game and seen how Eli has carried teh Giants throughout the season, you might give him a little more credit. He’s had a make-shift o-line all year, made Victor Cruz a mini monster and made no name Jake Ballard a legitimate threat.

    He has broken the Giants passing yards for a season record (tough place to play QB), has tied Johnny Unita and Peyton Manning for most 4th qtr TD passes in a season, has a high 4th qtr QB rating (money player) and has led the Giants to wins against the Pats in Foxboro ( broke Pats home win streak) and a 12 point comeback in final 5 minutes at Dallas. He led the Gianst to victory against Rodgers and the Packers too but the Giants defense blew it in the final minute.

    As impressive as Staffords stats look ( I havent watched all of his games) I have a hard time saying Eli does not deserve the nod.

    Eli is ELITE and congratulations to him on making the pro bowl. Perhaps the best part about him is he could proabbaly careless about making the team.

    GO BLUE!!!

  85. blackqbwhiterb says: Dec 28, 2011 8:24 AM

    How on earth does Freeney get in with 7.5 sacks and 12 tackles, on a team that won 2 games? Is that the best the AFC has? Nufff said….the whole thing is a farce.

  86. blackqbwhiterb says: Dec 28, 2011 8:29 AM

    London Fletcher takes Geritol before practice, has his paycheck from the Redskins supplemented by his social security check, hasn’t missed a game since 1996, and leads the ENTIRE NFL in tackles, didn’t get in. Total joke…the whole things a sham

  87. kev86 says: Dec 28, 2011 8:33 AM

    Your team is heading into a must win game. You are held at gunpoint and asked which QB you want for the big game..Matthew Stafford or Eli Manning? You have a second to decide or the gun goes off….who do you pick???

  88. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 28, 2011 8:46 AM

    pappageorgio says:
    Dec 27, 2011 7:48 PM
    Lions did get hosed.

    The chiefs sent 2 defenders. The 32nd ranked D in the NFL sent three. Raji goes over Suh despite having a horrible 1st half of the season

    Manning over stafford? We must of forgotten the stat column….win/loss record….and the fact MS did it without a running game.

    And one that pisses me off…….Brandon Pettigrew. Third among NFC TEs in receptions…….but pettigrew does something that all these “pro-bowl” TEs don’t: he actually blocks. He’s an every down TE…..there was recent artical that said as a blocker BP grades out better grades out better than like 50% of offensive linemen. But since he doesn’t have a high number of 20+ yd receptions, he’ll never get a look.

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    As if the Giants aren’t DEAD LAST in the league in rushing? FOH stupid.

    And Stafford singlehandedly lost the Lions 3 of the 5 games they’ve lost. Eli hasn’t been the reason the Giants have lost any of theirs.

  89. suhnami says: Dec 28, 2011 8:48 AM

    gcsuk says: Dec 28, 2011 5:40 AM

    Wow, I never realized that Lions fans were such crybabies. I mean, whining over whether Stafford made the team in such a meaningless game? I’m sorry, but I doubt that Stafford even cares that much.

    Maybe the Pro Bowl is like the Oscars. Sometimes you “win” based on your body of work, not as much by the film you made. I mean, why else did Scorcese win for “The Departed” and not “Taxi Driver” “GoodFellas” or “Raging Bull”? This is statistically Eli’s best year, and coaches and players are looking at the entire body of work, as compared to Staffords lone complete season.

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    Lets just set the record straight….

    Matthew Stafford’s stat’s are far superior than Eli in all but YPC and Eli has a slight lead (I’m going to go out on a limb and say that changes after this weekend) by 69 yards.

    Matthew Stafford plays in the hardest division in football…sorry guys the NFC East is a complete joke this year.

    The Pack are the best team in football and both games against the Bears were when they were healthy and on pace to be a 10/11 win team before sustaining all the injuries.

    They’ve had to play other teams such as the 49ers, Saints, Broncos, Raiders, Cowboys, Falcons all teams in 1st place or the playoff hunt.

    Matthew Stafford has the NFL all time record for must come from behind wins in a season of 13+ point deficits…can’t get much more clutch than that.

    Oh yea and lastly…Matthew Stafford has led the Lions to a better record and locked up a playoff birth already.

    The only argument you can make over Stafford is for Romo….THAT’S IT.

    Needless to say I’ll be rooting for the G-men this weekend along with my Lions in hopes this can all be settle the first week of the Playoffs…I’m sure Stafford won’t be motivated at all :D

  90. suhnami says: Dec 28, 2011 8:51 AM

    The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest unfortunately and not a measure of talent…

    would you rather be the Prom King or the guy banging the Prom King’s girlfriend?? just saying who do you think is which in this scenario??

  91. suhnami says: Dec 28, 2011 9:00 AM

    Matthew Stafford – the 1st QB in NFL history to throw for 36+ TD’s and NOT make the Pro Bowl…hmmmmm bias/hate much?

  92. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 28, 2011 9:13 AM

    simplesimon1 says:
    Dec 27, 2011 11:46 PM
    @superboys5x

    First, I agree that the Romo bashing gets old. I like Romo. That being said, Stafford has had an incredible year. And it’s his first full year and he’s only 23 years old. He’s barely thrown more INT’s than Romo and 9 of those 14 you see came when he had a broken index finger on his throwing hand. Outside the games played with a broken finger he has 33 TD’s and 5 INT’s. Fact is, Stafford has many years left to grow and that’s scary considering he’s in the elite category of stats this year already. Also, he’s been the difference. Calvin has always been good. Wonder why he’s having a breakout year……It’s because he finally has an elite QB throwing to him.

    I’m now hoping to play the Giants first round. We’ll see who the ProBowl QB is.

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    Not in East Rutherford, you don’t. Maybe in that comfy dome. The Lions aren’t built for this cold.

  93. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 28, 2011 9:32 AM

    kev86 says:
    Dec 28, 2011 8:33 AM
    Your team is heading into a must win game. You are held at gunpoint and asked which QB you want for the big game..Matthew Stafford or Eli Manning? You have a second to decide or the gun goes off….who do you pick???

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    ELI.

  94. wakiash says: Dec 28, 2011 9:58 AM

    No Dez Bryant? What a rip off.

  95. sfwillis52 says: Dec 28, 2011 10:56 AM

    Niners should of had 10 in there. Aldon Smith and Bowman both somehow didn’t make the cut.

  96. suhnami says: Dec 28, 2011 10:56 AM

    Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 28, 2011 9:13 AM

    simplesimon1 says:
    Dec 27, 2011 11:46 PM
    @superboys5x

    First, I agree that the Romo bashing gets old. I like Romo. That being said, Stafford has had an incredible year. And it’s his first full year and he’s only 23 years old. He’s barely thrown more INT’s than Romo and 9 of those 14 you see came when he had a broken index finger on his throwing hand. Outside the games played with a broken finger he has 33 TD’s and 5 INT’s. Fact is, Stafford has many years left to grow and that’s scary considering he’s in the elite category of stats this year already. Also, he’s been the difference. Calvin has always been good. Wonder why he’s having a breakout year……It’s because he finally has an elite QB throwing to him.

    I’m now hoping to play the Giants first round. We’ll see who the ProBowl QB is.

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    Not in East Rutherford, you don’t. Maybe in that comfy dome. The Lions aren’t built for this cold.

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    Oh yea I almost forgot about the New Jersey Giants

    Lions are 4-1 outdoors this year and 6-4 in domes…

  97. suhnami says: Dec 28, 2011 10:58 AM

    Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 28, 2011 9:32 AM

    kev86 says:
    Dec 28, 2011 8:33 AM
    Your team is heading into a must win game. You are held at gunpoint and asked which QB you want for the big game..Matthew Stafford or Eli Manning? You have a second to decide or the gun goes off….who do you pick???

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    ELI.

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    Makes one of you lol

    I don’t even think Eli would choose himself in this scenario.

  98. kmiller9959 says: Dec 28, 2011 11:45 PM

    A couple points to bring up.

    You can say what you want about the Lion’s running game, but there is no way it’s worse than what the Giants have been doing this year on the ground, so don’t try to paint that picture as a point for Stafford over Manning.

    I think Eli gets in on the strength of his comebacks this year and what he means to his team. The Giants are 8-7 right now, but take him off the roster and replace him with an average QB and they have maybe one or two wins. They would’ve beaten the Jets (the Jets gave that game away) and the Bills (Bradshaw ran for 3TD and 100+ yards) without Eli’s input, and maybe the Rams. You’d be looking at a 3-12 or 2-13 team right now without Eli. Look at the 4th quarter drives he’s put together against NE, GB, Dallas, etc.

    Eli has been winning in spite of a terrible running game and a terrible defense. Look at the positions he’s been put in every game in the 4th quarter with a couple minutes left and look how he’s consistently pulled it out.

    If he pulls out another 4th quarter dagger with a couple minutes left against Dallas on Sunday, he not only has easily earned his Pro Bowl selection, he is starting to look like a dark horse candidate for MVP because his team would be absolutely atrocious without him. The very definition of valuable.

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