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Former teammate of both, Sharper would take Brees over Favre

New Orleans Saints Sharper celebrates after recovering fumble by Pittsburgh Steelers Miller in New Orleans Reuters

Having played safety for 14 years with the Packers, Vikings and Saints, Darren Sharper has been a teammate and an opponent of both Drew Brees and Brett Favre. Of the two, Sharper says Brees is the one he’d trust more to win a game.

Asked on SportsCenter today which one he’d rather have on his team with a game on the line, Sharper didn’t hesitate.

“With the game on the line I would have to go with Mr. Drew Brees, because we’ve seen Brett — who I love to death — throw the ball up in the air when anyone can make a play on it, intercept it, at the end of games,” Sharper said. “If you want to come down to a two-minute drill where you need a play for your team to win, you go with one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the NFL, and that’s Drew Brees.”

Favre had plenty of big plays with the game on the line, too. But in the first year of Favre’s retirement, we’re seeing quarterbacks including Brees and Aaron Rodgers playing the position at a level Favre never reached.

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  1. vegaskid21 says: Dec 27, 2011 12:46 PM

    I agree with Darren

  2. vikingdoode says: Dec 27, 2011 12:49 PM

    i agree but question why is this news…..

  3. citizenstrange says: Dec 27, 2011 12:51 PM

    That’s like a chicken or egg type question.

    They both have one Super Bowl win but Brees would not have gotten to his Super Bowl if Favre had not soiled the bed so badly in the NFCCG.

    Still, I guess I’d go with Favre. He never went one and done against a 7-9 playoff team.

  4. scoops1 says: Dec 27, 2011 1:00 PM

    …Brett Favre wants to know why hasn’t Sharper stated this earlier

  5. Ted says: Dec 27, 2011 1:02 PM

    @vikingdoode
    This is not being reported as breaking news. This is a sports blog. It’s called Pro Football Talk. That’s what they do here, talk about football, all aspects of football, whether it:s “news” or not. If you haven’t figured that out, you might want to just skip this site and stick to the Yahoo Sports front page.

  6. earthtopft says: Dec 27, 2011 1:08 PM

    But if the three of them were out 4 wheeling in a truck and it got stuck in the mud, you know what would happen. Brees would be under one rear wheel for traction, Rodgers would be under the other for traction, and Favre would be sitting in the cab drinking a beer and flooring the engine to get it rocking back and forth.

  7. theawkwardyears says: Dec 27, 2011 1:08 PM

    And Favre would rather have Ed Reed on 4th and 26th.

  8. kegowhisky says: Dec 27, 2011 1:09 PM

    I understand that Favre has become “easy to hate” and will always lose a comparison against the “saintly” Brees, but I also question why the comparison has to be made and broadcast to the masses. They both are/were elite quarterbacks that have to occupy a top five spot in anyone’s annual rankings in the last five to ten years. I only wish there were more of their caliber coming out of college that needy teams can snag. Yes, you can count “my” Redskins in that category!

  9. trbowman says: Dec 27, 2011 1:13 PM

    Is it just cool to hate on Favre now?

    Damn, I miss Favre.

  10. thedisbackindtown says: Dec 27, 2011 1:20 PM

    who is Darren Sharper?

  11. sterilizecromartie says: Dec 27, 2011 1:21 PM

    Sounds like Sharper knows what he is talking about…. until he said later in the show that he would take Orton over Tebow. And here I thought that debate had ended somehwere between 1-4 and 8-5.

  12. thedisbackindtown says: Dec 27, 2011 1:23 PM

    theawkwardyears says: Dec 27, 2011 1:08 PM

    And Favre would rather have Ed Reed on 4th and 26th.

    ========================

    Oh my god I just spit my lunch out when i read this! This is prob my favorite quote on here in a long time!

  13. turbodog1027 says: Dec 27, 2011 1:27 PM

    citizenstrange says: Dec 27, 2011 12:51 PM

    That’s like a chicken or egg type question.

    They both have one Super Bowl win but Brees would not have gotten to his Super Bowl if Favre had not soiled the bed so badly in the NFCCG.

    Still, I guess I’d go with Favre. He never went one and done against a 7-9 playoff team.

    What a complete idiot.
    The Saints scored 36 points moron. You want Brees to play defense too????

  14. gioreeko says: Dec 27, 2011 1:31 PM

    Rodgers is better than both of them put together. Best of all time!

  15. scytherius says: Dec 27, 2011 1:43 PM

    I wanna know why there is always some Nit who asks, “why is this news”? Interview with 14 year Safety who played with two of the best QBs in the history of the game. Yeah, NO idea why that is news.

    Believe me, the rest of us are not laughing “with” you.
    Can we get an ignore button?
    Fools.

  16. whitetail2 says: Dec 27, 2011 1:49 PM

    Favre went one and done in the playoffs against the 8-8 vikings in 2004 on the frozen tundra, just sayin…….

  17. claymath52 says: Dec 27, 2011 1:50 PM

    vikingdoode says:
    Dec 27, 2011 12:49 PM
    i agree but question why is this news…..

    ___________________________________

    I agree. We should have more stories about the horrid Vikings season and how they won a game and lost their best player.

  18. Kya_Tropic_Fan says: Dec 27, 2011 1:54 PM

    turbodog1027 says: Dec 27, 2011 1:27 PM

    citizenstrange says: Dec 27, 2011 12:51 PM

    That’s like a chicken or egg type question.

    They both have one Super Bowl win but Brees would not have gotten to his Super Bowl if Favre had not soiled the bed so badly in the NFCCG.

    Still, I guess I’d go with Favre. He never went one and done against a 7-9 playoff team.

    What a complete idiot.
    The Saints scored 36 points moron. You want Brees to play defense too????
    ________________________________

    LMFAO, the point is simple. If Favre didnt choke against the Saints, the Saints never make it to the Super Bowl. If the Saints never make it to the Super Bowl, Brees has no ring…

  19. whitetail2 says: Dec 27, 2011 1:58 PM

    And guess who threw 4 interceptions in that 2004 playoff game…… the good old Brent Favre…….

  20. linebusy says: Dec 27, 2011 1:58 PM

    theawkwardyears, that is just too much. Speechless.

  21. contra74 says: Dec 27, 2011 2:17 PM

    gioreeko says:
    Dec 27, 2011 1:31 PM
    Rodgers is better than both of them put together. Best of all time!
    ——
    Put down the green kool aid. Everybody knows Brees is better than Rodgers.

  22. rexachss says: Dec 27, 2011 2:21 PM

    Lets see if I got this straight an owner can pay Billick, Gruden, Cowher or Fisher $10 Million or pocket the money and hire a coordinator with a 10% raise ….and you would do what?

  23. spyder210 says: Dec 27, 2011 2:22 PM

    It’s not an apples to apples comparison.

    1 – Darren Sharper was not in the league during Favre’s 3 straight MVPs, so he did not see him at his absolute best.

    2 – Brees has the luxury of playing in a dome for a minimum of 8 games per season. He also will benefit from playing the majority of his career w/ rules that significantly aid passing (for the love of God, even Eli Manning was in the discussion to surpass Marino’s mark this year). Favre had his “greatest statistical season” in 2009…his first season playing in a dome, at 40+ years old.

    Put Favre in a dome during his prime in the 90′s complete with the “pass happy rules” and we wouldn’t even be discussing this.

  24. makimaguro says: Dec 27, 2011 2:32 PM

    Favre made Sharper (in more ways than one) – he ought to shut his trap. Favre is one of the toughest hombres to ever play. Plus, he didn’t have nearly the offensive weapons that either Brees or Rodgers has. He was in a ball control, short passing game offense.

  25. tampajoey says: Dec 27, 2011 2:34 PM

    After the Packers lose in the playoffs can we please stop hearing about them including the old retired irrelevant ones.

  26. dragonfly99 says: Dec 27, 2011 2:38 PM

    This is not news. Brett has been retired for almost a year now, Why can’t we just leave him alone.

  27. n0hopeleft says: Dec 27, 2011 2:41 PM

    spyder210 says:
    Dec 27, 2011 2:22 PM
    It’s not an apples to apples comparison.

    1 – Darren Sharper was not in the league during Favre’s 3 straight MVPs, so he did not see him at his absolute best.

    2 – Brees has the luxury of playing in a dome for a minimum of 8 games per season. He also will benefit from playing the majority of his career w/ rules that significantly aid passing (for the love of God, even Eli Manning was in the discussion to surpass Marino’s mark this year). Favre had his “greatest statistical season” in 2009…his first season playing in a dome, at 40+ years old.

    Put Favre in a dome during his prime in the 90′s complete with the “pass happy rules” and we wouldn’t even be discussing this.

    ___________________________________

    Pass whatever you’re smoking this way. Favre made WAY worse decisions than Brees has.

    Eli Manning has as many rings as Favre and Brees, and did it all on the road, including in Favre’s backyard.

    Anymore genius comments from you, moron?

  28. getsome636 says: Dec 27, 2011 2:44 PM

    LMAO, this year Brees was inside for most games. He has 8 home games, an away game at St Louis, away game in MN and away game in the GA dome. That is 11 games indoors, I cant wait until he has to go to Lambeau. The NFL should make it a rule that any team playing in a dome should not be allowed to host playoff games. Football is supposed to be outside.

  29. rajbais says: Dec 27, 2011 3:08 PM

    Me too!!!

  30. christopher525 says: Dec 27, 2011 3:11 PM

    I would still take Favre, at Brees’ current age. If I had my picks of Favre or anyone current I take Rodgers, Brady, Peyton, Favre, then MAYBE Brees. I don’t think Brees’ record is as impressive as some, when he’s basically running Texas Tech’s offense in the NFL.

  31. imjinbrdgr says: Dec 27, 2011 3:17 PM

    theawkwardyears says: Dec 27, 2011 1:08 PM

    And Favre would rather have Ed Reed on 4th and 26th.
    =========================
    Yes the 4th and 26 BS was Sharpers fault but did you you seen the wounded duck Favre threw up in overtime that would have been a miracle if it had not been intercepted? That pass, that led to the winning FG, along with many others in his disastrous playoff career cements the answer to the question. One game to win take Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Mannings(both) over The Old,I’ll just throw it up and see what happens, Gunslinger.

  32. jkcranshaw says: Dec 27, 2011 3:19 PM

    To the person making the “if Brett Favre hadn’t blown his lunch in the playoffs, Drew Brees wouldn’t have made it to the Super Bowl”… I can make the argument that if Bill Parcells didn’t have one foot out of town, give up on his team, and make the stupid decision to kick to Desmond Howard twice… Brett wouldn’t have a ring either.

    I cringed typing such a stupid argument, but it is no stupider than the if Brett Favre didn’t suck when the game was on the line argument.

  33. marinephinfan says: Dec 27, 2011 3:23 PM

    Prime Favre > Prime Brees

    I’d take Farve 10 out of 10 times over Brees. However, I’d take brees over Brady. I’d take Rodgers over them all.

  34. freewayjim says: Dec 27, 2011 3:23 PM

    Now people are saying the passing game in the 90′s is harder than today?

    Stop hating on Brees for crying out loud!

    Passing game rules changes from 1977-1984 Uber-radical

    1984-2011 Tweaks.

    Players have also gotten bigger, stronger and faster since then not to mention the defensive schemes are far more complicated in today’s game.

    Please, let’s look at all sides of the coin before making brash statements.

  35. CaJonMcChicken says: Dec 27, 2011 3:23 PM

    As much as I hate Favre, that man was beast before all this hoopla about him. Favre at his best ranks as high as brees and Rodgers.

  36. toolkien says: Dec 27, 2011 3:24 PM

    Is it just cool to hate on Favre now?

    Damn, I miss Favre.
    ———————————————-
    In case you missed it, Favre started “hating” first. He spent the last three years with the Packers firing ultimatums at Ted Thompson – if Sherman was fired, Favre threatened to not come back (because he didn’t want to have to learn a knew playbook). During the three part Greta-fest Favre related how Thompson didn’t sign linemen Favre dictated be signed (and the Pack were already way over skewed to the offense with payroll), wanted Mariucci hired, and began to broker free agent deals outside of his job description. It wasn’t in his description to mentor other team members, but I guess being the de facto GM was. THEN, EVEN IN RETIREMENT, Favre expected to be able to dictate the draft.

    All of this added up to, again, Favre wanting to do Thompson’s job for him, and when it was clear that wasn’t going to be the case, Favre quit (even though the team was on the upswing THOMPSON’S WAY). And when Thompson drafted two QB’s and “closed the door on me” in Favre’s words, Favre flat out hated Thompson and wanted revenge. THAT’S WHY he wanted back and why he waited so long to file reinstatment papers – to put the Packers in financial/salary cap trouble and would have to release him. Goodell defanged that ploy by giving the Packers an extra time to get a trade worked out.

    But it stands that FAVRE HATED FIRST. And he burned his legacy along the way. It’s not incumbent on Packer fans (cool or otherwise) to just unilaterally forgive Favre for unleashing all that pain and trouble from 2005 through The Divorce further through having it “stuck” to us.

    Despite the re-envisioned narrative circa 1997 that Favre single handedly saved the franchise, Favre was NEVER above the team, nor should he have felt privileged to do Thompson’s job for him, much less get so bent out of shape when he was progressively hemmed into the expectation of actually DOING HIS OWN JOB (and the “little things” that went with it), or even much less try to exact revenge for not being to turn the team into his semi-retirement hobby shop.

    Favre himself said, for not coming back this year, that he couldn’t motivate himself with HATE anymore, pretty much admitting the last few years of his career were stimulated by hate and revenge. HE started it. It’s up to him to finish/reverse it. Until then, he reaps what he sewed.

  37. j972 says: Dec 27, 2011 3:28 PM

    With the rule changes in the last 5 or 6 years, the QB’s are effecvtively playing in a touch football league now. Brett Favre is the greatest football player of all time.

  38. spyder210 says: Dec 27, 2011 3:28 PM

    @nohopeleft

    Settle down there internet tuff guy lol. No need to resort to name calling!

    If you were referring to Brees beating Favre “in his own backyard”…the 2009 NFC title game took place in NO, not MN. Also, Brees and co. Had a little help from the refs due to an executive order from Obama to appease the looters, hoodlums, and their ilk. The illegal hits to Favre (not called but later fined by the league), as well as the phantom pass interference call in OT helped out a lot. Not to mention AP’s 3 fumbles. Oh well. (By the way I’m a Packer Backer not a Vikings fan.)

    Let me know when Brees wins 3 MVPs in a row while playing outside in sub-zero conditions!

  39. earthtopft says: Dec 27, 2011 3:39 PM

    @j972 – “Brett Favre is the greatest football player of all time”.

    Carve that in stone and send it down the mountain. No one will even remember Brees, Rodgers, or most of the rest of them.

  40. johntonioholmes says: Dec 27, 2011 3:41 PM

    This is not to take anything away from Brees because he’s a great guy and a great QB, but the game is different today than it was when Favre was playing in his prime.

    Brees is certainly playing better than Favre ever has, but it’s impossible to compare.

    Most importantly, tackling has become an illegal part of the game. Listen to how Belichick said to stop the Rams in the 2001 super bowl; he said you have to hit the receivers hard and after the play to give them alligator arms. You can’t do that in today’s game.

    You can’t touch the receivers, unless you play for the Jets (then it’s legal for some reason).

    Another thing: Holding used to be illegal. Go back and look at game film from 1996. The o-lineman would get penalized for doing what they do today.

    Not only that, but Favre never played in an offense like the one that the Saints have. Receivers get freakishly wide open in this scheme. It’s almost like the Greatest Show on Turf. I used to get so frustrated watching that offense because it seemed like there was blown coverage on every play.

    Now, from what I’ve seen, I would take Brees over Favre, but it’s not really fair to compare because the game is not like it used to be.

    The game is designed for offenses like the Saints now, and it wasn’t always like that.

  41. klor80 says: Dec 27, 2011 3:44 PM

    Two different QB at different era. It like comparing D. Marino (at the very late of his career) to young Favre. You can compare stats first couple of yrs or so but you just can’t compare QB at a different era. Is John Elway (Prime) better then Aaron Rodgers? Favre played 2 season at the age of 38 and 39. Can Brees play at age 35+?

  42. bayoubauer says: Dec 27, 2011 3:46 PM

    @ spyder210

    “Settle down there internet tuff guy lol. No need to resort to name calling!”

    “looters, hoodlums, and their ilk.”

    Hypocritical much, internet tuff guy?

  43. vikescry1 says: Dec 27, 2011 3:53 PM

    is it favre in his prime(3mvp) or now vs bree’s, now i take bree’s and favre’s prime i take favre. and i really dislike favre now

  44. wikidpissah says: Dec 27, 2011 4:06 PM

    Kya_Tropic_Fan says: Dec 27, 2011 1:54 PM

    LMFAO, the point is simple. If Favre didnt choke against the Saints, the Saints never make it to the Super Bowl. If the Saints never make it to the Super Bowl, Brees has no ring…
    __________________________________

    Which is why Sharper would rather have Brees. Favre’s last pass for the Falcons, Packers and Jets were all interceptions. His last pass that mattered for the Vikings was to the Saints.

    From 99 on, Favre was the most over rated player in football. By a lot.

  45. wikidpissah says: Dec 27, 2011 4:10 PM

    marinephinfan says: Dec 27, 2011 3:23 PM

    Prime Favre > Prime Brees

    I’d take Farve 10 out of 10 times over Brees. However, I’d take brees over Brady. I’d take Rodgers over them all.
    ___________________________________

    Sometimes it’s better to say nothing and let people think you couldn’t really be that stupid.

  46. acmepacker says: Dec 27, 2011 4:21 PM

    thedisbackindtown says:
    Dec 27, 2011 1:20 PM
    who is Darren Sharper?
    *****************
    14 yrs in the league, 5 times pro bowl, 2000s all
    decade team, played for the Pack, Vikings, and

  47. 13xworldchamps says: Dec 27, 2011 4:23 PM

    Might we add Darren, the famous 4th and 26 play in Philly was mostly your fault and your responsibility. Game should have been over right there,

    Then in Frisco in 97 playoffs, Owens touchdown was also your responsibility. (which should have never been, because Rice DID fumble.)

    I guess now that your an anylyst you have tom say these type of things. It’s been proven by Stats and numbers that Favre’s 95 to 97 run was as good as anybody’s, with no real true #1 receiver.

  48. camstradamus says: Dec 27, 2011 4:24 PM

    When will they interview Brett’s teammates from the Wrangler commercial?

  49. childressrulz says: Dec 27, 2011 4:28 PM

    wikidpissah says: Dec 27, 2011 4:10 PM

    marinephinfan says: Dec 27, 2011 3:23 PM

    Prime Favre > Prime Brees

    I’d take Farve 10 out of 10 times over Brees. However, I’d take brees over Brady. I’d take Rodgers over them all.
    ___________________________________

    Sometimes it’s better to say nothing and let people think you couldn’t really be that stupid.
    _______________________
    The only one who sounds stupid here is wkidpissah. The NFL handed Brees that Superbowl. Anyone who watched that game knows that there should have been at least 3 roughing the passer penalties on the Saints. Putting Brees’s name next to Favre in any context is laughable at best.

  50. tominmilwaukee says: Dec 27, 2011 4:32 PM

    OK, lets get a couple things straight…

    1. Sharper’s first year in the NFL was 1997, the last year of Favre’s MVP seasons…. So he basically did see Brett at his best.

    2. 4th and 26th was NOT Sharper’s fault… Nick Barnett’s job was to cover the middle and he manned the TE instead of dropping back 15-20 yards, which would have covered the play… Basically a rookie mistake.

    With that said…. Brees, Favre, and Rodgers are/were ELITE QBs in the NFL, regardless of any stats or playoff records some of you put out there…. Also, all 3 have Super Bowl rings, which nobody can EVER take away from them…

    Bottom line: In the past 10 years, the only QBs that should be mentioned with those 3 are Brady and Manning….

  51. roastbeefsandwich says: Dec 27, 2011 4:37 PM

    Love the Favre hate.

    People don’t realize the Packer teams from the early 2000′s wouldn’t have been squat without number 4. Who was he throwing to? It was a revolving door at WR. The defense at that time was average, at best. And he was being coached by Mike Sherman. He was such an awesome coach…oh wait, where is he now?

  52. approachingnormalcy says: Dec 27, 2011 4:48 PM

    Brees is a good quarterback. There is no argument there. However, one should notice that he also leads the league in pass attempts at 622. Compare that to Rodgers at 502.

    I don’t know how many attempts Dan Marino had when he set his record by I think it was a 14 game schedule then and the quarterbacks were not protected then as they are now. I would take Marino in his prime or Rodgers now.

    I am a Steeler fan, not a Packer fan or Dolphin fan.

  53. sleazysnake says: Dec 27, 2011 4:52 PM

    “With the rule changes in the last 5 or 6 years, the QB’s are effecvtively playing in a touch football league now. Brett Favre is the greatest football player of all time.”
    ___________________________________________________

    What rules were changed in the last 5 or 6 years?

    Maybe the defense pushing a guy out of bounds before his feet hit the ground is not automatically a catch rule?

    Or the can’t hit a defenseless receiver with the defenders helmet in the head rule?

  54. gb4mn0 says: Dec 27, 2011 5:02 PM

    I love all the vikequeer fans on here hating on the Saints. Their wretched souls will forever be haunted by the ’09′ NFC Championship game. It’s so damn laughable to read the posts where they demand the Saints fans to admit that the lavender Larry’s really won that game. Talk about being a willing victim of metaphysical servitude.

  55. chris6523 says: Dec 27, 2011 5:19 PM

    And Favre would rather have Ed Reed on 4th and 26th.

    ________________________________

    So that justifies throwing a ball 40 yards downfield into the waiting arms of Brian Dawkins?

    I count 8 games in Favre’s time with the pack where he threw a backbreaking interception(s) to cost the his team a chance to win a playoff game: 2009 as a vike vs. Saints, 2007 vs. giants, 2004 vs. Vikings, 2003 vs. Eagles, 2002 vs. Atlanta, 2001 vs. Rams, 1997 vs. Broncos, ’95 vs. Cowboys.

    Sharper couldn’t be more correct if he’d have said water is wet.

  56. mineallmine001 says: Dec 27, 2011 9:24 PM

    And Favre would rather have Ed Reed on 4th and 26th.

    ________________________________

    So that justifies throwing a ball 40 yards downfield into the waiting arms of Brian Dawkins?

    I count 8 games in Favre’s time with the pack where he threw a backbreaking interception(s) to cost the his team a chance to win a playoff game: 2009 as a vike vs. Saints, 2007 vs. giants, 2004 vs. Vikings, 2003 vs. Eagles, 2002 vs. Atlanta, 2001 vs. Rams, 1997 vs. Broncos, ’95 vs. Cowboys.

    Sharper couldn’t be more correct if he’d have said water is wet.

    ———————————————————

    I bet I can count more back breaking defensive plays sharper gave up due to really poor tackling and lame coverage

  57. grannyvi4 says: Dec 27, 2011 11:36 PM

    gb4mno: Do you EVER have anything to say that doesn’t concern the “vikequeers” or “vikequeens”? Most posters at least have a point they’re trying to make, unlike you. You just talk to hear yourself talk, don’t you?

    Take your meds and just…shut…up.

  58. sevensixtwonato says: Dec 28, 2011 1:20 PM

    grannyvi4 says:
    Dec 27, 2011 11:36 PM
    gb4mno: Do you EVER have anything to say that doesn’t concern the “vikequeers” or “vikequeens”? Most posters at least have a point they’re trying to make, unlike you. You just talk to hear yourself talk, don’t you?

    Take your meds and just…shut…up.

    ————————————————–

    Hey now, you would be ornery too if you havent seen your feet in 10 years.

  59. rockashar says: Dec 28, 2011 5:48 PM

    It is apples and oranges…..remember Brett Favre has the most wins by any QB in History in games with zero to sub zero weather not by choice but because he was forced to play in that weather…..hard to pile up the passing stats in those conditions…..also not just the rules but every player now wears these high tech gloves that make it a lot easier to hold onto football.
    Drew is a great player but not in Manning , Brady, Marino, Favre class….

  60. gb4mn0 says: Dec 29, 2011 12:10 AM

    grannyvi4 says:
    Dec 27, 2011 11:36 PM
    gb4mno: Do you EVER have anything to say that doesn’t concern the “vikequeers” or “vikequeens”? Most posters at least have a point they’re trying to make, unlike you. You just talk to hear yourself talk, don’t you?

    Take your meds and just…shut…up.

    ———————————————
    This is priceless! I would never take criticism from someone that can’t be trusted and a walking petri dish that bleeds for 3 days a month and doesn’t die can’t be trusted. So Granny prune gash go give yourself a cheap thrill with your Messengil bottle, slip into your Depends, take your Prozac(as most women do) turn on the WE channel and cry yourself to sleep in self pity.

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