Take your meds and just…shut…up.

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This is priceless! I would never take criticism from someone that can’t be trusted and a walking petri dish that bleeds for 3 days a month and doesn’t die can’t be trusted. So Granny prune gash go give yourself a cheap thrill with your Messengil bottle, slip into your Depends, take your Prozac(as most women do) turn on the WE channel and cry yourself to sleep in self pity.

Take your meds and just…shut…up.

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Hey now, you would be ornery too if you havent seen your feet in 10 years.

Take your meds and just…shut…up.

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So that justifies throwing a ball 40 yards downfield into the waiting arms of Brian Dawkins?

I count 8 games in Favre’s time with the pack where he threw a backbreaking interception(s) to cost the his team a chance to win a playoff game: 2009 as a vike vs. Saints, 2007 vs. giants, 2004 vs. Vikings, 2003 vs. Eagles, 2002 vs. Atlanta, 2001 vs. Rams, 1997 vs. Broncos, ’95 vs. Cowboys.

Sharper couldn’t be more correct if he’d have said water is wet.

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I bet I can count more back breaking defensive plays sharper gave up due to really poor tackling and lame coverage

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So that justifies throwing a ball 40 yards downfield into the waiting arms of Brian Dawkins?

I count 8 games in Favre’s time with the pack where he threw a backbreaking interception(s) to cost the his team a chance to win a playoff game: 2009 as a vike vs. Saints, 2007 vs. giants, 2004 vs. Vikings, 2003 vs. Eagles, 2002 vs. Atlanta, 2001 vs. Rams, 1997 vs. Broncos, ’95 vs. Cowboys.

Sharper couldn’t be more correct if he’d have said water is wet.

What rules were changed in the last 5 or 6 years?

Maybe the defense pushing a guy out of bounds before his feet hit the ground is not automatically a catch rule?

Or the can’t hit a defenseless receiver with the defenders helmet in the head rule?

I don’t know how many attempts Dan Marino had when he set his record by I think it was a 14 game schedule then and the quarterbacks were not protected then as they are now. I would take Marino in his prime or Rodgers now.

I am a Steeler fan, not a Packer fan or Dolphin fan.

People don’t realize the Packer teams from the early 2000′s wouldn’t have been squat without number 4. Who was he throwing to? It was a revolving door at WR. The defense at that time was average, at best. And he was being coached by Mike Sherman. He was such an awesome coach…oh wait, where is he now?

1. Sharper’s first year in the NFL was 1997, the last year of Favre’s MVP seasons…. So he basically did see Brett at his best.

2. 4th and 26th was NOT Sharper’s fault… Nick Barnett’s job was to cover the middle and he manned the TE instead of dropping back 15-20 yards, which would have covered the play… Basically a rookie mistake.

With that said…. Brees, Favre, and Rodgers are/were ELITE QBs in the NFL, regardless of any stats or playoff records some of you put out there…. Also, all 3 have Super Bowl rings, which nobody can EVER take away from them…

Bottom line: In the past 10 years, the only QBs that should be mentioned with those 3 are Brady and Manning….

marinephinfan says: Dec 27, 2011 3:23 PM

Prime Favre > Prime Brees

I’d take Farve 10 out of 10 times over Brees. However, I’d take brees over Brady. I’d take Rodgers over them all.
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Sometimes it’s better to say nothing and let people think you couldn’t really be that stupid.
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The only one who sounds stupid here is wkidpissah. The NFL handed Brees that Superbowl. Anyone who watched that game knows that there should have been at least 3 roughing the passer penalties on the Saints. Putting Brees’s name next to Favre in any context is laughable at best.

Then in Frisco in 97 playoffs, Owens touchdown was also your responsibility. (which should have never been, because Rice DID fumble.)

I guess now that your an anylyst you have tom say these type of things. It’s been proven by Stats and numbers that Favre’s 95 to 97 run was as good as anybody’s, with no real true #1 receiver.

Prime Favre > Prime Brees

I’d take Farve 10 out of 10 times over Brees. However, I’d take brees over Brady. I’d take Rodgers over them all.
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Sometimes it’s better to say nothing and let people think you couldn’t really be that stupid.

LMFAO, the point is simple. If Favre didnt choke against the Saints, the Saints never make it to the Super Bowl. If the Saints never make it to the Super Bowl, Brees has no ring…
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Which is why Sharper would rather have Brees. Favre’s last pass for the Falcons, Packers and Jets were all interceptions. His last pass that mattered for the Vikings was to the Saints.

From 99 on, Favre was the most over rated player in football. By a lot.

“Settle down there internet tuff guy lol. No need to resort to name calling!”

“looters, hoodlums, and their ilk.”

Hypocritical much, internet tuff guy?

Brees is certainly playing better than Favre ever has, but it’s impossible to compare.

Most importantly, tackling has become an illegal part of the game. Listen to how Belichick said to stop the Rams in the 2001 super bowl; he said you have to hit the receivers hard and after the play to give them alligator arms. You can’t do that in today’s game.

You can’t touch the receivers, unless you play for the Jets (then it’s legal for some reason).

Another thing: Holding used to be illegal. Go back and look at game film from 1996. The o-lineman would get penalized for doing what they do today.

Not only that, but Favre never played in an offense like the one that the Saints have. Receivers get freakishly wide open in this scheme. It’s almost like the Greatest Show on Turf. I used to get so frustrated watching that offense because it seemed like there was blown coverage on every play.

Now, from what I’ve seen, I would take Brees over Favre, but it’s not really fair to compare because the game is not like it used to be.

The game is designed for offenses like the Saints now, and it wasn’t always like that.

Carve that in stone and send it down the mountain. No one will even remember Brees, Rodgers, or most of the rest of them.

Settle down there internet tuff guy lol. No need to resort to name calling!

If you were referring to Brees beating Favre “in his own backyard”…the 2009 NFC title game took place in NO, not MN. Also, Brees and co. Had a little help from the refs due to an executive order from Obama to appease the looters, hoodlums, and their ilk. The illegal hits to Favre (not called but later fined by the league), as well as the phantom pass interference call in OT helped out a lot. Not to mention AP’s 3 fumbles. Oh well. (By the way I’m a Packer Backer not a Vikings fan.)

Let me know when Brees wins 3 MVPs in a row while playing outside in sub-zero conditions!

Damn, I miss Favre.
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In case you missed it, Favre started “hating” first. He spent the last three years with the Packers firing ultimatums at Ted Thompson – if Sherman was fired, Favre threatened to not come back (because he didn’t want to have to learn a knew playbook). During the three part Greta-fest Favre related how Thompson didn’t sign linemen Favre dictated be signed (and the Pack were already way over skewed to the offense with payroll), wanted Mariucci hired, and began to broker free agent deals outside of his job description. It wasn’t in his description to mentor other team members, but I guess being the de facto GM was. THEN, EVEN IN RETIREMENT, Favre expected to be able to dictate the draft.

All of this added up to, again, Favre wanting to do Thompson’s job for him, and when it was clear that wasn’t going to be the case, Favre quit (even though the team was on the upswing THOMPSON’S WAY). And when Thompson drafted two QB’s and “closed the door on me” in Favre’s words, Favre flat out hated Thompson and wanted revenge. THAT’S WHY he wanted back and why he waited so long to file reinstatment papers – to put the Packers in financial/salary cap trouble and would have to release him. Goodell defanged that ploy by giving the Packers an extra time to get a trade worked out.

But it stands that FAVRE HATED FIRST. And he burned his legacy along the way. It’s not incumbent on Packer fans (cool or otherwise) to just unilaterally forgive Favre for unleashing all that pain and trouble from 2005 through The Divorce further through having it “stuck” to us.

Despite the re-envisioned narrative circa 1997 that Favre single handedly saved the franchise, Favre was NEVER above the team, nor should he have felt privileged to do Thompson’s job for him, much less get so bent out of shape when he was progressively hemmed into the expectation of actually DOING HIS OWN JOB (and the “little things” that went with it), or even much less try to exact revenge for not being to turn the team into his semi-retirement hobby shop.

Favre himself said, for not coming back this year, that he couldn’t motivate himself with HATE anymore, pretty much admitting the last few years of his career were stimulated by hate and revenge. HE started it. It’s up to him to finish/reverse it. Until then, he reaps what he sewed.

Stop hating on Brees for crying out loud!

Passing game rules changes from 1977-1984 Uber-radical

1984-2011 Tweaks.

Players have also gotten bigger, stronger and faster since then not to mention the defensive schemes are far more complicated in today’s game.

Please, let’s look at all sides of the coin before making brash statements.

I’d take Farve 10 out of 10 times over Brees. However, I’d take brees over Brady. I’d take Rodgers over them all.

I cringed typing such a stupid argument, but it is no stupider than the if Brett Favre didn’t suck when the game was on the line argument.

And Favre would rather have Ed Reed on 4th and 26th.
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Yes the 4th and 26 BS was Sharpers fault but did you you seen the wounded duck Favre threw up in overtime that would have been a miracle if it had not been intercepted? That pass, that led to the winning FG, along with many others in his disastrous playoff career cements the answer to the question. One game to win take Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Mannings(both) over The Old,I’ll just throw it up and see what happens, Gunslinger.