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	<title>Comments on: NFL attempts to clarify the defenseless player rules</title>
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		<title>By: pravin68</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/27/nfl-attempts-to-clarify-the-defenseless-player-rules/#comment-1474207</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually tjvo27, if Goodell was concerned about injuries, he would know that a lot of the lifelong injuries are sustained in the trenches. You see more linemen with brain related problems more than WRs or QBs]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually tjvo27, if Goodell was concerned about injuries, he would know that a lot of the lifelong injuries are sustained in the trenches. You see more linemen with brain related problems more than WRs or QBs</p>
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		<title>By: tjv027</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/27/nfl-attempts-to-clarify-the-defenseless-player-rules/#comment-1474048</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tjv027]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For all of you blowhards who are clamoring for the &quot;good old days&quot; when football was still a &quot;man&#039;s game&quot;, keep in mind that back then, defensive backs wrapped their arms and made form tackles.  They didn&#039;t lower their heads and shoulders with their arms at their sides to lay someone out.

My two favorite sports leagues in the world are the NFL and the NHL...both are dealing with this crisis.  It&#039;s more entertaining for all of us to see high-speed collisions and bone crunching hits, but ex-players are dying way too young.  The evidence is too strong to ignore that allowing hits targeting the head is too dangerous.  

If you&#039;re a defensive back in the NFL, lower your shoulder and drive it into the players torso, like you&#039;ve been taught to do your entire life.  Receivers that &quot;crouch down&quot; causing blows to the head are no longer defenseless, and aren&#039;t classified by the rule.  When refs screw that part of it up, it doesn&#039;t mean the rule is bogus, it&#039;s just a blown call.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all of you blowhards who are clamoring for the &#8220;good old days&#8221; when football was still a &#8220;man&#8217;s game&#8221;, keep in mind that back then, defensive backs wrapped their arms and made form tackles.  They didn&#8217;t lower their heads and shoulders with their arms at their sides to lay someone out.</p>
<p>My two favorite sports leagues in the world are the NFL and the NHL&#8230;both are dealing with this crisis.  It&#8217;s more entertaining for all of us to see high-speed collisions and bone crunching hits, but ex-players are dying way too young.  The evidence is too strong to ignore that allowing hits targeting the head is too dangerous.  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re a defensive back in the NFL, lower your shoulder and drive it into the players torso, like you&#8217;ve been taught to do your entire life.  Receivers that &#8220;crouch down&#8221; causing blows to the head are no longer defenseless, and aren&#8217;t classified by the rule.  When refs screw that part of it up, it doesn&#8217;t mean the rule is bogus, it&#8217;s just a blown call.</p>
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		<title>By: truthserum4u</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/27/nfl-attempts-to-clarify-the-defenseless-player-rules/#comment-1471594</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[truthserum4u]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cletusvandam says:Dec 27, 2011 3:43 PM 

 Tackles where the defender lowers his head, or spears the ball carrier with the helmet, or just headhunts like James Harrison does should be called. Incidental stuff like this is overkill.

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Exactly!!

With guys moving every which way at such high speeds your bound to have helmets collide.  Incidental or inadvertant contact is part of the game.  It&#039;s using the helmet as a weapon that needs to be stopped.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cletusvandam says:Dec 27, 2011 3:43 PM </p>
<p> Tackles where the defender lowers his head, or spears the ball carrier with the helmet, or just headhunts like James Harrison does should be called. Incidental stuff like this is overkill.</p>
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<p>Exactly!!</p>
<p>With guys moving every which way at such high speeds your bound to have helmets collide.  Incidental or inadvertant contact is part of the game.  It&#8217;s using the helmet as a weapon that needs to be stopped.</p>
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		<title>By: themightywhitey</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/27/nfl-attempts-to-clarify-the-defenseless-player-rules/#comment-1471367</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 11:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[defenseless player =player with no helmet ........otherwise play on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>defenseless player =player with no helmet &#8230;&#8230;..otherwise play on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ampking101</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/27/nfl-attempts-to-clarify-the-defenseless-player-rules/#comment-1471361</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ampking101]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about  eliminate this stupid thing called defenseless receivers and stick to unnecessary roughness. I&#039;m sure the refs could maker the freaking call when the rules don&#039;t contradict themselves. If a player intends to cause damage it&#039;s unnecessary roughness. No one on the field is defenseless. You want to limit the big hit, there is your ticket. You want defense to become boring and have 60 point games from every team? Keep doing what your doing. What I know I prefer games that are battles rather than shoot outs. Remove the defensive plays you remove the chess element and at that point coaching becomes useless. Congrats Goodell, I think you have officiallykilled american football. I hope your proud.

FYI the reason the falcons have been playing so badly this season, you make the game a pissing walk in the park, smash mouth becomes irrelavent, the run becomes useless. How often do the packers run? How about Pats? The run is next to useless nowadays....it&#039;s really sad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about  eliminate this stupid thing called defenseless receivers and stick to unnecessary roughness. I&#8217;m sure the refs could maker the freaking call when the rules don&#8217;t contradict themselves. If a player intends to cause damage it&#8217;s unnecessary roughness. No one on the field is defenseless. You want to limit the big hit, there is your ticket. You want defense to become boring and have 60 point games from every team? Keep doing what your doing. What I know I prefer games that are battles rather than shoot outs. Remove the defensive plays you remove the chess element and at that point coaching becomes useless. Congrats Goodell, I think you have officiallykilled american football. I hope your proud.</p>
<p>FYI the reason the falcons have been playing so badly this season, you make the game a pissing walk in the park, smash mouth becomes irrelavent, the run becomes useless. How often do the packers run? How about Pats? The run is next to useless nowadays&#8230;.it&#8217;s really sad.</p>
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		<title>By: jimothyvonstojavic</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/27/nfl-attempts-to-clarify-the-defenseless-player-rules/#comment-1471355</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimothyvonstojavic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no problem with the rule. As the falcons know, it is there for good measure. We all saw what happened last year with dunta Robinson and desean Jackson. I have a problem with the other rules like you can&#039;t TOUCH the QBs head. The nfl is being ruined.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with the rule. As the falcons know, it is there for good measure. We all saw what happened last year with dunta Robinson and desean Jackson. I have a problem with the other rules like you can&#8217;t TOUCH the QBs head. The nfl is being ruined.</p>
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		<title>By: theglap</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/27/nfl-attempts-to-clarify-the-defenseless-player-rules/#comment-1471150</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[theglap]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 02:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will fix the rule right now:

“It is a foul if a player initiates unnecessary contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture.
(a) Players in a defenseless posture are: 
(1) Those players not on the field.
(2) There is no (2).&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will fix the rule right now:</p>
<p>“It is a foul if a player initiates unnecessary contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture.<br />
(a) Players in a defenseless posture are:<br />
(1) Those players not on the field.<br />
(2) There is no (2).&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: alreggie</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/27/nfl-attempts-to-clarify-the-defenseless-player-rules/#comment-1471061</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alreggie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 01:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a ridiculous statement to say that the league is &quot;sissified&quot; if it is trying to legislate protection for its players.  Same way speed limits are put on highways to protect the rest of us from those that can&#039;t help themselves from breaking laws, whatever the punishment.  Take the guy&#039;s head off---no catch most of the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a ridiculous statement to say that the league is &#8220;sissified&#8221; if it is trying to legislate protection for its players.  Same way speed limits are put on highways to protect the rest of us from those that can&#8217;t help themselves from breaking laws, whatever the punishment.  Take the guy&#8217;s head off&#8212;no catch most of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: gripless</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/27/nfl-attempts-to-clarify-the-defenseless-player-rules/#comment-1471056</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gripless]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 01:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why don&#039;t they make it a penalty on the offense for running routs that place players in illegal positions?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t they make it a penalty on the offense for running routs that place players in illegal positions?</p>
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		<title>By: danetow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[danetow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 01:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why doesn&#039;t the NFL just take a step back and realize the wording of the rule is what causes the problems. Something like this would be much more acceptable.

&quot;Any contact to a player&#039;s head that is not deemed a runner in possession of the football will be a 15 yard penalty.&quot;

That protects your quarterbacks in the pocket and receivers that are quote &quot;defenseless.&quot; The defensive players will be able to understand it much more than the jibberish that the rule currently is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why doesn&#8217;t the NFL just take a step back and realize the wording of the rule is what causes the problems. Something like this would be much more acceptable.</p>
<p>&#8220;Any contact to a player&#8217;s head that is not deemed a runner in possession of the football will be a 15 yard penalty.&#8221;</p>
<p>That protects your quarterbacks in the pocket and receivers that are quote &#8220;defenseless.&#8221; The defensive players will be able to understand it much more than the jibberish that the rule currently is.</p>
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		<title>By: dietrich43</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dietrich43]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 00:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why not just make it illegal to lead with the crown of the helmet - it&#039;s what most sports consider spearing.  Why is it ok for a RB to hit a LB in the head, or vice versa, but not if it&#039;s a QB or WR?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not just make it illegal to lead with the crown of the helmet &#8211; it&#8217;s what most sports consider spearing.  Why is it ok for a RB to hit a LB in the head, or vice versa, but not if it&#8217;s a QB or WR?</p>
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		<title>By: gergie1957</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gergie1957]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 00:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with this rule and many others, like holding, hands to the face, block in the back, are not called on a consistent basis.

So this makes the refs game changers, and it shouldn&#039;t be that way. let the players decide the games, not officials.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with this rule and many others, like holding, hands to the face, block in the back, are not called on a consistent basis.</p>
<p>So this makes the refs game changers, and it shouldn&#8217;t be that way. let the players decide the games, not officials.</p>
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		<title>By: skyleralan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[skyleralan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 23:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With so many judgement rules/calls in the game the NFL has gone the wrong direction.  I will commend them for their efforts with the force out rule (player being pushed OB when in the act of trying to make a catch) and the automatic 15 yard face mask was another penalty they got right.

I just don&#039;t get how they are so WRONG with the defenseless receiver penalty, QB roughing, and illegal contact call.  All three of these are called completely differently based on the refs working the game.

Instead of the referees having less of an impact on games they now, play a large role who wins and loses.

Either get rid of these calls or get more concrete definitions of these rules.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With so many judgement rules/calls in the game the NFL has gone the wrong direction.  I will commend them for their efforts with the force out rule (player being pushed OB when in the act of trying to make a catch) and the automatic 15 yard face mask was another penalty they got right.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t get how they are so WRONG with the defenseless receiver penalty, QB roughing, and illegal contact call.  All three of these are called completely differently based on the refs working the game.</p>
<p>Instead of the referees having less of an impact on games they now, play a large role who wins and loses.</p>
<p>Either get rid of these calls or get more concrete definitions of these rules.</p>
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		<title>By: bkostela</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bkostela]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 23:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1) Colston lowered his head into the hit.

2) That WAS holding in the end zone on the Saints.  How does the fact that the ref determined the play to be a screen pass make it not holding? Are the ref&#039;s going to start calling out the &quot;Mike&quot; before the plays as well?

3) Jeff Triplette should not have a job - but if he keeps up what he&#039;s doing it seems the NFL will make him the next Mike Pereira.

4) Mike Pereira should not have a job.  He is terrible.

5) &quot;macbull says:
The NFL continues to use the same basic football helmets they used in the 1960s…a rock hard plastic outer shell with air bags and padding added to the inside to absorb the shock.

Padding added to the outside of helmets was successfully used by NFL players concerned about career threatening concussions, yet the NFL refuses to mandate the use of those helmet options.&quot;

Padding on the helmets actually causes more of an injury risk to the players.  Yes the brain is protected, but because the helmet &quot;sticks&quot; upon impact, there is a much increased risk of serious neck injury.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Colston lowered his head into the hit.</p>
<p>2) That WAS holding in the end zone on the Saints.  How does the fact that the ref determined the play to be a screen pass make it not holding? Are the ref&#8217;s going to start calling out the &#8220;Mike&#8221; before the plays as well?</p>
<p>3) Jeff Triplette should not have a job &#8211; but if he keeps up what he&#8217;s doing it seems the NFL will make him the next Mike Pereira.</p>
<p>4) Mike Pereira should not have a job.  He is terrible.</p>
<p>5) &#8220;macbull says:<br />
The NFL continues to use the same basic football helmets they used in the 1960s…a rock hard plastic outer shell with air bags and padding added to the inside to absorb the shock.</p>
<p>Padding added to the outside of helmets was successfully used by NFL players concerned about career threatening concussions, yet the NFL refuses to mandate the use of those helmet options.&#8221;</p>
<p>Padding on the helmets actually causes more of an injury risk to the players.  Yes the brain is protected, but because the helmet &#8220;sticks&#8221; upon impact, there is a much increased risk of serious neck injury.</p>
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		<title>By: dscol715</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 23:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pereira has every right to be mad.  The officials got both calls right but because the announcers can&#039;t spend 15 minutes learning the rule millions of people are misinformed.  The Colston call was correct because the rule states that you can&#039;t hit a defenceless receiver in the head.  It&#039;s that simple.  The rule does not give leeway for intent.  You can argue about the rule but that is the rule.  The Reggie Kelly non-call was also correct because he was hit in the back not the head.  Gruden needs to get a clue.  And for those of you who disagree with the rule get a life.  The NFL is trying to save these players from getting ALS or blowing their brains out 20 years from now.  Sorry if that gets in the way of your Sunday entertainment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pereira has every right to be mad.  The officials got both calls right but because the announcers can&#8217;t spend 15 minutes learning the rule millions of people are misinformed.  The Colston call was correct because the rule states that you can&#8217;t hit a defenceless receiver in the head.  It&#8217;s that simple.  The rule does not give leeway for intent.  You can argue about the rule but that is the rule.  The Reggie Kelly non-call was also correct because he was hit in the back not the head.  Gruden needs to get a clue.  And for those of you who disagree with the rule get a life.  The NFL is trying to save these players from getting ALS or blowing their brains out 20 years from now.  Sorry if that gets in the way of your Sunday entertainment.</p>
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		<title>By: snnyjcbs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[snnyjcbs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 23:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have it from a &quot;reliable source&quot; lol, that all NFL Teams will now have one Attorney in the Booth and one on the Sidelines.

It will be their jobs to try and interpret and explain the rules to the coaches and players as the games are being played. I had enough of the Pereira BS when he was in the NFL, I sure do not need what has always been the NFL self serving BS Spin on bad calls.

What is that old saying? &quot;do not (*&amp; down my back and try and tell me it is raining&quot;.

See all the records that may be broke this year?, more BS in today&#039;s game of pitch and catch, they mean nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have it from a &#8220;reliable source&#8221; lol, that all NFL Teams will now have one Attorney in the Booth and one on the Sidelines.</p>
<p>It will be their jobs to try and interpret and explain the rules to the coaches and players as the games are being played. I had enough of the Pereira BS when he was in the NFL, I sure do not need what has always been the NFL self serving BS Spin on bad calls.</p>
<p>What is that old saying? &#8220;do not (*&amp; down my back and try and tell me it is raining&#8221;.</p>
<p>See all the records that may be broke this year?, more BS in today&#8217;s game of pitch and catch, they mean nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: clayton43</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clayton43]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing personal at all... but THESE rules that have been in place and moving forward is why these passing records being broken mean absolutley nothing and are very much watered down.  It is absurd and very frustrating I think to people who love football.. not just fantasy players who could care less but want to see more points.  QBs who throw the ball 50 times a game should end up with tons of yards and the rules allow for that.  Football is becoming more like arena football league.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing personal at all&#8230; but THESE rules that have been in place and moving forward is why these passing records being broken mean absolutley nothing and are very much watered down.  It is absurd and very frustrating I think to people who love football.. not just fantasy players who could care less but want to see more points.  QBs who throw the ball 50 times a game should end up with tons of yards and the rules allow for that.  Football is becoming more like arena football league.</p>
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		<title>By: bigjdve</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/27/nfl-attempts-to-clarify-the-defenseless-player-rules/#comment-1470563</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone keeps getting on Goodell for these rules. People seem to forget that it is the players as a majority that are crying about head injuries, both current and former players are complaining about it. 

Just last week there were at least 2 lawsuits brought by 2 different groups of players regarding player safety. 

So when complaining about the penalties, fines, and suspensions go talk to the players and remind them that they are the people asking for the more hardline approach. 

The owners and the NFL would like nothing more than to let them beat themselves into oblivion, that makes them more money. 

To me it seems that we have a gladiatorial sport where the gladiators want more protection, complain when the are given it, the fans want blood and complain when they can&#039;t get it. 

How does the NFL win?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone keeps getting on Goodell for these rules. People seem to forget that it is the players as a majority that are crying about head injuries, both current and former players are complaining about it. </p>
<p>Just last week there were at least 2 lawsuits brought by 2 different groups of players regarding player safety. </p>
<p>So when complaining about the penalties, fines, and suspensions go talk to the players and remind them that they are the people asking for the more hardline approach. </p>
<p>The owners and the NFL would like nothing more than to let them beat themselves into oblivion, that makes them more money. </p>
<p>To me it seems that we have a gladiatorial sport where the gladiators want more protection, complain when the are given it, the fans want blood and complain when they can&#8217;t get it. </p>
<p>How does the NFL win?</p>
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		<title>By: jimmylions</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;if a player initiates unnecessary contact&quot;

Where is &quot;unnecessary contact&quot; defined? 

If someone is catching a ball and you want to break up the catch, contact is necessary. If you&#039;re worried about a helpless receiver, then don&#039;t ask the receiver to do things that make him helpless. 

The players have to make split second judgement calls and get them all right, but the refs are allowed to talk things over and get them wrong? This is insanity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;if a player initiates unnecessary contact&#8221;</p>
<p>Where is &#8220;unnecessary contact&#8221; defined? </p>
<p>If someone is catching a ball and you want to break up the catch, contact is necessary. If you&#8217;re worried about a helpless receiver, then don&#8217;t ask the receiver to do things that make him helpless. </p>
<p>The players have to make split second judgement calls and get them all right, but the refs are allowed to talk things over and get them wrong? This is insanity.</p>
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		<title>By: raiderlyfe510</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/27/nfl-attempts-to-clarify-the-defenseless-player-rules/#comment-1470559</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Goodell needs to realize that any high speed collision is dangerous. Thats why football is played with pads and a helmet.

Football is a dangerous sport. Goodell needs to be the commissioner of a flag football league. The NFL is obviously too violent for him. His rules are outrageous and any rule that comes with a &quot;Err on the side of caution&quot; can not be enforced justly or consistently. Goodell is nuts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Goodell needs to realize that any high speed collision is dangerous. Thats why football is played with pads and a helmet.</p>
<p>Football is a dangerous sport. Goodell needs to be the commissioner of a flag football league. The NFL is obviously too violent for him. His rules are outrageous and any rule that comes with a &#8220;Err on the side of caution&#8221; can not be enforced justly or consistently. Goodell is nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: heyzeus143</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/27/nfl-attempts-to-clarify-the-defenseless-player-rules/#comment-1470553</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the rule sucks, let them hit]]></description>
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		<title>By: ytsejamer1</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The time period during this period as classified by the NFL equals about 3/4 of a second.  A bunch of crusty old refs watching these unreal athletes going full out makes it very difficult to quantify.  Refs still make the call...sometimes right or sometimes wrong.  

You could have a rule with 1200 words to describe a defenseless player...in the course of game action, it really doesn&#039;t matter.  Any hit to the head should be illegal and that&#039;s that.

RB constantly put their heads down and slam into tacklers&#039; helmets and somehow that&#039;s legal.  Stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The time period during this period as classified by the NFL equals about 3/4 of a second.  A bunch of crusty old refs watching these unreal athletes going full out makes it very difficult to quantify.  Refs still make the call&#8230;sometimes right or sometimes wrong.  </p>
<p>You could have a rule with 1200 words to describe a defenseless player&#8230;in the course of game action, it really doesn&#8217;t matter.  Any hit to the head should be illegal and that&#8217;s that.</p>
<p>RB constantly put their heads down and slam into tacklers&#8217; helmets and somehow that&#8217;s legal.  Stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: ruggerlad</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/27/nfl-attempts-to-clarify-the-defenseless-player-rules/#comment-1470531</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ruggerlad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 21:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We the fans pay big money to watch TACKLE FOOTBALL.  This money provides ridiculous amounts of money which fills the bank accounts of players, owners, coaches, refs, ticket master, broadcast announcers, etc.  If you are worried about injury get a normal job with normal risks and a normal salary or sell your team to a wealthy FAN, and not some rich business man who thinks owning an NFL team might be fun or an investment. GIVE US BACK WHAT WE ARE ALREADY PAYING FAR FAR TOO MUCH FOR!!!
Pereria you sir are a joke and have no business being involved in the sport the NFL has gone down hill since your involvement with officiating and we now pay more for less.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We the fans pay big money to watch TACKLE FOOTBALL.  This money provides ridiculous amounts of money which fills the bank accounts of players, owners, coaches, refs, ticket master, broadcast announcers, etc.  If you are worried about injury get a normal job with normal risks and a normal salary or sell your team to a wealthy FAN, and not some rich business man who thinks owning an NFL team might be fun or an investment. GIVE US BACK WHAT WE ARE ALREADY PAYING FAR FAR TOO MUCH FOR!!!<br />
Pereria you sir are a joke and have no business being involved in the sport the NFL has gone down hill since your involvement with officiating and we now pay more for less.</p>
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		<title>By: wtfru2</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/27/nfl-attempts-to-clarify-the-defenseless-player-rules/#comment-1470515</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 21:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last night&#039;s officiating crew is by far the worst in the NFL. The ref can&#039;t even pronounce holding. He says hoding instead. 

Why doesn&#039;t the NFL hire professional refs like all other sports? Oh that&#039;s right they can hardly afford it............]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night&#8217;s officiating crew is by far the worst in the NFL. The ref can&#8217;t even pronounce holding. He says hoding instead. </p>
<p>Why doesn&#8217;t the NFL hire professional refs like all other sports? Oh that&#8217;s right they can hardly afford it&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jibbajones</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/27/nfl-attempts-to-clarify-the-defenseless-player-rules/#comment-1470510</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jibbajones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 21:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Things are starting to get ridiculous.  

I think everyone agrees that penalties should get called when a defensive player uses his helmet as a weapon when trying to tackle someone.  But can we start being adults when it comes to this stuff?

Let&#039;s be honest, when playing in the NFL, concussions are an occupational hazard.  If guys are really concerned about their well-being when it comes to head injuries, they should walk away from the game...

I don&#039;t say that to sound like a tough guy or a neanderthal, it&#039;s just the reality of the game when played at an elite level.  What I call &quot;casual&quot; helmet to helmet contact will always occur regardless of the rules put in place.

I compare football players to boxers or MMA fighters.  When&#039;s the last time you&#039;ve seen a fight stopped due to &quot;possible concussion symptoms&quot;?  It&#039;s an occupational hazard that&#039;s fully understood when stepping into the ring.  A guy gets rocked with a big punch/kick, but as long as he is able to defend himself, he is allowed to continue.

If an NFL player suffers a head injury, but passes all the field tests and is coherent and lucid, it should be his choice to go back into the game.  If a guy clearly is out on his feet, then you sit him.

I just think we need to start acknowledging that the game of football at the elite level is inherently dangerous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things are starting to get ridiculous.  </p>
<p>I think everyone agrees that penalties should get called when a defensive player uses his helmet as a weapon when trying to tackle someone.  But can we start being adults when it comes to this stuff?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be honest, when playing in the NFL, concussions are an occupational hazard.  If guys are really concerned about their well-being when it comes to head injuries, they should walk away from the game&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t say that to sound like a tough guy or a neanderthal, it&#8217;s just the reality of the game when played at an elite level.  What I call &#8220;casual&#8221; helmet to helmet contact will always occur regardless of the rules put in place.</p>
<p>I compare football players to boxers or MMA fighters.  When&#8217;s the last time you&#8217;ve seen a fight stopped due to &#8220;possible concussion symptoms&#8221;?  It&#8217;s an occupational hazard that&#8217;s fully understood when stepping into the ring.  A guy gets rocked with a big punch/kick, but as long as he is able to defend himself, he is allowed to continue.</p>
<p>If an NFL player suffers a head injury, but passes all the field tests and is coherent and lucid, it should be his choice to go back into the game.  If a guy clearly is out on his feet, then you sit him.</p>
<p>I just think we need to start acknowledging that the game of football at the elite level is inherently dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: blackbeardk</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 21:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The call on Jerome Boyd on a block on a kick return was ridiculous.  He waited for the defender to turn before blocking him hit him with a shoulder in the chest, and the defender&#039;s legs and head came forward before he was a pancake on the ground.  But because the defender&#039;s helmet hit Boyd&#039;s, Boyd received a penalty...Boyd did NOT lead with his helmet or initiate the helmet to helmet contact...these plays used to make sportscenter...not ref&#039;s waffle weekly...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The call on Jerome Boyd on a block on a kick return was ridiculous.  He waited for the defender to turn before blocking him hit him with a shoulder in the chest, and the defender&#8217;s legs and head came forward before he was a pancake on the ground.  But because the defender&#8217;s helmet hit Boyd&#8217;s, Boyd received a penalty&#8230;Boyd did NOT lead with his helmet or initiate the helmet to helmet contact&#8230;these plays used to make sportscenter&#8230;not ref&#8217;s waffle weekly&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cancelsundayticket</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cancelsundayticket]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 21:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just another lame attempt by the league and Pereira to explain ANOTHER bad call!  I&#039;m all for cracking down on head hunting and protecting the QBs, but this is still, as far as I know, TACKLE football...people&#039;s heads are going to come together at times.

Further the rules are not enforced with any consistency...to many subjective rules in the game now, imho.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another lame attempt by the league and Pereira to explain ANOTHER bad call!  I&#8217;m all for cracking down on head hunting and protecting the QBs, but this is still, as far as I know, TACKLE football&#8230;people&#8217;s heads are going to come together at times.</p>
<p>Further the rules are not enforced with any consistency&#8230;to many subjective rules in the game now, imho.</p>
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		<title>By: macbull</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[macbull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 21:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FIX THE HELMETS...and stop the craziness of changing the greatest game played in this country...American football.

The NFL continues to use the same basic football helmets they used in the 1960s...a rock hard plastic outer shell with air bags and padding added to the inside to absorb the shock.

Padding added to the outside of helmets was successfully used by NFL players concerned about career threatening concussions, yet the NFL refuses to mandate the use of those helmet options.

The NFL needs to upgrade the safety capabilities of their helmets and stop changing the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FIX THE HELMETS&#8230;and stop the craziness of changing the greatest game played in this country&#8230;American football.</p>
<p>The NFL continues to use the same basic football helmets they used in the 1960s&#8230;a rock hard plastic outer shell with air bags and padding added to the inside to absorb the shock.</p>
<p>Padding added to the outside of helmets was successfully used by NFL players concerned about career threatening concussions, yet the NFL refuses to mandate the use of those helmet options.</p>
<p>The NFL needs to upgrade the safety capabilities of their helmets and stop changing the game.</p>
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		<title>By: dboskie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dboskie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 21:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kya_Tropic_Fan says: 
Dec 27, 2011 3:41 PM 
I was unfortunately unable to see the play in question, so I cant exactly comment on it, but, with that being said, I dont understand how there is confusion with regard to defensive players hitting helmet to helmet. If a defensive player drives his shoulder into the offensive players ribs/hips/abdomen area, they will never have to pray that the ref doesnt throw the flag. When you go high against a player (“defenseless” or not) you are giving the official an opportunity to make a call that goes against you, and hurts your team. Go low, aim for the players hips and you wont get a flag. Simple as that. Not to mention that I am sick and tired of watching players go for a knock out blow only to bounce off, and the ball carrier gets 20+ extra yards. Hit him in the abdomen, wrap him up, and if you cant take him down, the rest of the defense will be there soon enough. I would take a great tackling defensive player over a defensive player looking for the knock out any day. Maybe that is just me. But the risk/reward on a big hit just doesnt seem worth it. Too many defenses give up a first down on 3rd and long because they went for the knock out and bounced off…

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That is the problem.  You didn&#039;t see the hit.  The receiver did lower his head which caused the defensive player and the offensive player to collide.  These rules are a joke.  I tell ya what, if the NFL wants to make these rules fair how about evening out the stakes for both sides.  Pass interference in the endzone on a 60-yard bomb results in 1st and goal.  How about offensive pass interference results in 15 yards AND a loss of downs.  How about any offensive holding penalty results in a loss of down.  Same thing for a false start.  Allow the teams to play some defense for god sakes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kya_Tropic_Fan says:<br />
Dec 27, 2011 3:41 PM<br />
I was unfortunately unable to see the play in question, so I cant exactly comment on it, but, with that being said, I dont understand how there is confusion with regard to defensive players hitting helmet to helmet. If a defensive player drives his shoulder into the offensive players ribs/hips/abdomen area, they will never have to pray that the ref doesnt throw the flag. When you go high against a player (“defenseless” or not) you are giving the official an opportunity to make a call that goes against you, and hurts your team. Go low, aim for the players hips and you wont get a flag. Simple as that. Not to mention that I am sick and tired of watching players go for a knock out blow only to bounce off, and the ball carrier gets 20+ extra yards. Hit him in the abdomen, wrap him up, and if you cant take him down, the rest of the defense will be there soon enough. I would take a great tackling defensive player over a defensive player looking for the knock out any day. Maybe that is just me. But the risk/reward on a big hit just doesnt seem worth it. Too many defenses give up a first down on 3rd and long because they went for the knock out and bounced off…</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
That is the problem.  You didn&#8217;t see the hit.  The receiver did lower his head which caused the defensive player and the offensive player to collide.  These rules are a joke.  I tell ya what, if the NFL wants to make these rules fair how about evening out the stakes for both sides.  Pass interference in the endzone on a 60-yard bomb results in 1st and goal.  How about offensive pass interference results in 15 yards AND a loss of downs.  How about any offensive holding penalty results in a loss of down.  Same thing for a false start.  Allow the teams to play some defense for god sakes.</p>
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		<title>By: drgfri</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drgfri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 21:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps a clarification of the defenseless coed rule is in order for pigs like Roethlisberger!]]></description>
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