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Other teams wish they could “print money” like the Packers

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As Rosenthal pointed out earlier today, the success of the Packers’ decision to sell 250,000 shares of non-stock stock (at $250 per share and a $25 handling fee per transaction) resulted in the team deciding to add another 30,000 shares.

Why not sell another 3 million?  When all that the purchaser gets is a piece of paper, a lifetime invitation to the annual shareholder meeting at Lambeau Field, and the satisfaction of being able to say “we” without coming off as delusional, the Packers can keep selling as long as someone will keep buying.

And other teams are noticing.  As one team executive told PFT on Wednesday, plenty of franchises would love to have the ability to “print money,” explaining that this tactic gives the Packers “a decided financial advantage.”

Indeed it does.  The fact that no other team can do the same thing preserves the unique nature of the Packers’ ability to offer a very, very, very, very, very (insert 27 more “verys”) small piece of the team to the general public.

But as I babbled during today’s PFT Live, why don’t other teams consider a similar tactic?  Although the league has previously advised PFT that no other team is permitted to sell partial ownership via non-stock stock offering, teams should devise creative alternatives, like “certified fan” or the vaguely meaningful term “stakeholder,” which encompasses pretty much anyone who cares about the outcome of the team’s games.

It’s a way to pass the hat among the fan base, giving them something tangible and unique in return — a fancy piece of paper and a lifetime invitation to an annual dog-and-pony show.

Frankly, it’s amazing that such an effort hasn’t been launched by one of the other 31 teams.  That could change, just in time for Christmas 2012.

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  1. Vegas Guy says: Dec 28, 2011 5:25 PM

    If I was a Packer share holder I would be tuh-huh-icked. That’s just like diluting a real stock by splitting it except in this case you don’t get twice the shares.

    Yes they’re just a piece of paper in reality but still.

    Very unfair.

  2. clawledge says: Dec 28, 2011 5:25 PM

    Maybe because no other fan base would buy it.

  3. bearsstillsuck says: Dec 28, 2011 5:26 PM

    But they can’t. haha

  4. listenupcupcake says: Dec 28, 2011 5:26 PM

    PSLs.

  5. njdevil7 says: Dec 28, 2011 5:27 PM

    Its a nice gift idea, but do they really have to charge $250 bucks? AND a $25 fee?

  6. techvet says: Dec 28, 2011 5:28 PM

    Other teams have very wealthy owners. Jerry Jones can just cough into his hanky and generate $40M. The Packers have no wealthy owners who are rolling in dough.

  7. contra74 says: Dec 28, 2011 5:28 PM

    Although the league has previously advised PFT that no other team is permitted to sell partial ownership via non-stock stock offering, teams should devise creative alternatives, like “certified fan” or the vaguely meaningful term “stakeholder,” which encompasses pretty much anyone who cares about the outcome of the team’s games.
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    Unless im out there snapping the ball or directing the defense on the field then NO I am not in control of the outcome of a teams game and neither are those who bought this fake stock. Green Bay Packers Marketing Team = genius…those who bought that toilet paper = idiots.

  8. ammarradhi says: Dec 28, 2011 5:29 PM

    ONLY Packer fans are dumb enough to fall for it

  9. ironhawk says: Dec 28, 2011 5:30 PM

    You can’t have one team with special rules. They should make a solid “no publicly owned teams” rule, with no exceptions. I understand the history and the traditions of the Packers, and they are one of the most storied franchises in NFL history, but they can’t have their own set of rules. It just isn’t fair.

  10. bobhk says: Dec 28, 2011 5:31 PM

    Of course the dividend returned to the stockholders would be tiny as would be the ability to see stock for a profit as the market cap increases, as their is only a limited upside.
    Besides any increase in market cap would be offset by a dilution of the stock.
    But, perhaps the Pack fan are too stupid to understand that.

  11. blaz0037 says: Dec 28, 2011 5:31 PM

    Its a voluntary contribution to the stadium.

    Nothing more. Nothing less.

  12. seaner44 says: Dec 28, 2011 5:31 PM

    Some teams need to focus on selling seats before they can think about selling “stock”

  13. elwaysbrain says: Dec 28, 2011 5:31 PM

    We all know that a dollar bill is not just a worthless piece of paper. Right?

    Packers fans are still a dumb bunch. This is just another evidence.

  14. nesuperfan says: Dec 28, 2011 5:32 PM

    In the previous story today, I was incorrect when I said that there were no voting rights, but I stand by my statement that it does give the Packers an unfair advantage.

    ANYTHING that ANY franchise can do, the rest should be able to do. It is simple, and for all you Packers’ fans, who don’t think that way, well, you say something very clear about how you would handle finding a lost wallet…not very honest.

  15. caffeene says: Dec 28, 2011 5:32 PM

    The more they sell the more meaningless each share becomes.

  16. waltdawg says: Dec 28, 2011 5:33 PM

    Or burn money like my beloved Redskins….Snyder used to just throw a dart at a board and approve 5 year 100 million dollar deals…I mean Adam Archuleta…..Really? Really? Really…Sad.

    Hail?

  17. nomoreseasontix says: Dec 28, 2011 5:34 PM

    Man… I sure wish I’d come across some of the suckers buying those pieces of paper.
    I can probably get some real nice stuff printed up for about $4.00 a copy.
    A stake in my ongoing daily adventures?

    It sounds like the Packers have been taking lessons from the US government…

  18. medtxpack says: Dec 28, 2011 5:35 PM

    People who hate on the Pack for this dont fully understand it. We dont get on here and bitch about what you spend your money on. Yes we know its a stock that doesnt pay out. No we dont think we are just as cool the ROoney Family or Jerry Jones cause we own one.

  19. jrmbadger says: Dec 28, 2011 5:35 PM

    ” As one team executive told PFT on Wednesday, plenty of franchises would love to have the ability to “print money,” explaining that this tactic gives the Packers “a decided financial advantage.””

    The Packers also have to open their books for public inspection. Did you ask that league executive if they’d be willing to do the same? my guess is they would not.

  20. nesuperfan says: Dec 28, 2011 5:35 PM

    The other owners should just vote to allow all teams to do it, and level the playing field.

  21. green1bay says: Dec 28, 2011 5:35 PM

    I agree It’s crazy but they aren’t making people purchase it. Sounds very smart to me.

  22. crefan says: Dec 28, 2011 5:35 PM

    Kick your owner to the curb and become publicly owned and you could do it too.

  23. Matt-NC says: Dec 28, 2011 5:36 PM

    Why don’t other teams do something similar to this? Because greedy owners don’t want to have to explain themselves to anyone let alone the common fan.

  24. schmokes says: Dec 28, 2011 5:38 PM

    I bet those teams could win like the packers as well.

  25. jrmbadger says: Dec 28, 2011 5:38 PM

    The Packers are also a non-profit organization. Did you ask that other league exec if they would be willing to either reinvest all earnings in the team or donate them to charity instead of lining their owner’s pockets?

    my guess is they would not.

    They should come to Wisconsin and get some tasty cheese to go with their whine.

  26. snarkzilla says: Dec 28, 2011 5:39 PM

    Maybe because no other team has a shareholder meeting or opens its books for display or is anything other than a rich man’s asset.

  27. onewinningpick says: Dec 28, 2011 5:40 PM

    Other teams have been creative with ways of seperating fans from their money. The giants and jets sold PSL’s to the new stadium which essentially were only taking away previous season ticket holders right to their seats and selling those rights back to them at a minimum of $2500 per seat (and I believe up to $100,000 for some of the best seats). While playing devil’s advocate you can say they are getting the rights to those seats for the life of that stadium, the majority of purchasers were people who already had season ticket rights in the old stadium. In an 80,000 seat stadium you can see how quick that money added up. I’m not sure how other teams have been creative (as a giants fan this is all i’ve been exposed to), but I’m positive that most other teams have their own tricks they utilize to supplement traditional forms of revenue.

  28. bigfish06 says: Dec 28, 2011 5:41 PM

    The city of Green Bay doesn’t have enough money to subsidize a franchise like other major areas can. I mean the effort to get a sales tax for improvements to Lambeau Field almost tore the community up. I couldn’t imagine what it would be like if they needed taxpayer money for a new stadium.

  29. nauhurdler says: Dec 28, 2011 5:41 PM

    Maybe its cause only fans of Green Bay are dumb enough to spend money on nothing.

  30. ruvelligwebuike says: Dec 28, 2011 5:42 PM

    It would never work elsewhere. No one would knowingly give a billionaire owner money. Packer fans have no problem basically donating the money to the team because at the end of the day, the Board of Directors has to answer for where that money went. Plus, I just can’t see a market where this is feasible. Wisconsin is a pretty middle ground state with a ton of pride, so if it makes sense, the people will do it. If it doesn’t, they’ll tell them to stuff it.

  31. blaz0037 says: Dec 28, 2011 5:42 PM

    You tell me guys…..

    Thumbs up if you would rather pay a fraction of a percent in higher sales tax for a period of about six months, in the end costing you probably less than a few dollars…..

    or

    Thumbs down if you want to pay $275 yourself.

  32. batyuki says: Dec 28, 2011 5:42 PM

    You put so many “very” in there that you forget the “small” or whatever word you were going for. Focus man !

  33. ajknox88 says: Dec 28, 2011 5:43 PM

    i would so buy “fake stock” for my friends and family and myself.. hang it up in the man cave.. it’d be pretty cool even if it meant nothing.

  34. sakatak says: Dec 28, 2011 5:45 PM

    If I owned the Green Bay Packers, I would……….wait I do.

  35. deuce2222 says: Dec 28, 2011 5:45 PM

    Didn’t Wellington Mara of the Giants help come up with the idea of revenue sharing so that teams like the Packers could survive in a small market like Green Bay? Why doesn’t revenue sharing apply to this situation?

  36. deuce2222 says: Dec 28, 2011 5:45 PM

    Didn’t Wellington Mara of the Giants help come up with the idea of revenue sharing so that teams like the Packers could survive in a small market like Green Bay? Why doesn’t revenue sharing apply to this situation?

  37. dchuwo says: Dec 28, 2011 5:46 PM

    Let’s all hear it for the multi-millionaire owners of the other 31 markets that sell naming rights, and everythig else they can, have a bigger market, bigger stadiums which generate more revenue, higher ticket prices (also more revenue), etc. complain that the smallest market team in the NFL has a unique way to generate revenue. CRY ME A FRIGGIN’ RIVER.

  38. cowhawkfan says: Dec 28, 2011 5:47 PM

    If the packers were a real public company they would be required to split shares. What a joke. Just goes to show a cheddar head brain has lots of holes. Pay for a piece of worthless paper?

  39. ivegotbigblogs says: Dec 28, 2011 5:50 PM

    I think it’s a crazy concept, but hats off to them for coming up with a creative solution to a problem. 70 million in the midst of economic uncertainty without putting any burden on Wisconsin’s tax payers is pretty genius.

    However, shareholders might get a little upset showing up to the annual meeting only to find 275,000 pretend shareholders sitting in their seats.

  40. ski6077 says: Dec 28, 2011 5:50 PM

    How many other teams would be willing to open their books as the Packers are required to do? Based on the lockout, I’m guessing none.

  41. randomguy9999 says: Dec 28, 2011 5:50 PM

    hey, if Pack fans want to buy what amounts to a $275 trading card…. it’s pretty dumb, but whatever

  42. tabais says: Dec 28, 2011 5:51 PM

    I dont see how or why other teams would be upset. Should the Packers be upset if Jerry Jones goes out and makes millions in the stock market and then puts that into the team?

    The Packers do not have a sole owner so this is their only way to make money. They are using the money raised to add more seating to Lambeau Field.

    Instead of asking the tax payers to foot the bill like they did last time they simply asked their fans for donations. The way it should be!

  43. randomguy9999 says: Dec 28, 2011 5:52 PM

    I bet Jerry Jones has been trying to figure out how to get his face worked into the artwork of a Cowboys Stock certificate… just so he can give them away for free….

  44. 319hike says: Dec 28, 2011 5:53 PM

    They are in the smallest TV market in the league yet still share wealth while other team are on the dole. (see Vikings)

    “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” — Karl Marx

  45. macbauer says: Dec 28, 2011 5:53 PM

    Yea because being in a huge market like New York or Chicago doesn’t have any inherent financial advantages. What a joke.

  46. packerjb says: Dec 28, 2011 5:54 PM

    Vegas Guy,

    My share that I bought in 1997 for $200, has zero value on the open market. The Packers selling 280,000 more shares does not dilute the monetary value of my one share that has a vlue of $0. If the Packers ever sell the team, I receive nothing. All sales proceeds, after expenses are donated to charity. Of course, I do have voting rights, so if the Packers were ever to decide to sell, I and my fellow shareholders can vote yes or no.

  47. 700levelvet says: Dec 28, 2011 5:56 PM

    This is what teams should do. Offer future “owners” a roll of 1,000 peices of stock, for a buck an option. Print them of fine 2-ply paper, add a cardboard core, and perforate them. That’s 1,ooo bucks a roll, for basically what it is……..

  48. mornelithe says: Dec 28, 2011 5:58 PM

    I’d buy stock for the Patriots, because I know a great deal of the proceeds would go towards the Robert and Myra Kraft Family Foundation, as well as the Patriots Charitable Foundation.

  49. bobhk says: Dec 28, 2011 5:59 PM

    techvet says:
    Dec 28, 2011 5:28 PM
    Other teams have very wealthy owners. Jerry Jones can just cough into his hanky and generate $40M. The Packers have no wealthy owners who are rolling in dough.

    ————-

    He’s wealthy for sure. But the real wealthy NFL owner is Paul Allen. He could buy all the NFL owners combined (or almost).

  50. reny757 says: Dec 28, 2011 6:00 PM

    People will buy just about anything. I mean, if people will part with their hard earned money to have a star in the sky named after them, then what’s wrong with owning Packers stock? To paraphrase P.T. Barnum,” there’s a fool born every minute”.

  51. davekva72 says: Dec 28, 2011 6:00 PM

    Whoever came up with the idea is a genius. Not sure I’d pay $250 for a piece of paper, but then again who knows. I was one of the thousands of people who paid $125-$400 for an inscribed brick thats laid in the sidewalk at Cowboys Stadium. There’s something very cool about having my and my sons names carved in stone at our stadium. Most teams have come up with creative ways to make more $$ off of their fans, why wouldn’t they?

  52. whydoesrickcare says: Dec 28, 2011 6:01 PM

    Anybody with common sense wouldn’t do this. Gullible Packers fans who have nothing but processed pork fat and cheese to sustain the little grey matter in their skull. The only guy still talking about the Pet Rock craze of the seventies is the guy who sold them. What goes on a share holders meeting? Do they charge parking at $20 a pop, sell cold beers for $8.00? Is the souvenir stand open? Please keep that piece of paper in your portable safe with your Cabbage Patch Kid’s adoption papers and the certificate of authenticity that came with your Elvis plate collection.

  53. dchuwo says: Dec 28, 2011 6:01 PM

    bobhk says:
    Dec 28, 2011 5:31 PM
    Of course the dividend returned to the stockholders would be tiny as would be the ability to see stock for a profit as the market cap increases, as their is only a limited upside.
    Besides any increase in market cap would be offset by a dilution of the stock.
    But, perhaps the Pack fan are too stupid to understand that.

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    Thanks for the analysis, bobhk, but it’s been made pretty clear this is not a business investment. Now, back to your cubicle and continue being a geek.

  54. andygraham says: Dec 28, 2011 6:03 PM

    Green Bay’s situation is unique. While the stock may seem “worthless” nowadays, it is the only reason the franchise was able to survive in a market significantly smaller than every other sports market in the nation. I’d be willing to bet that most people who don’t understand why a Packer fan would “throw money away” to buy stock haven’t been to a game at Lambeau. Go there, you’ll understand. Packer fans who bought stock realize that they’re buying a piece of history, they’re aligning themselves with a unique franchise that survives ONLY because of its fans. For a Packer fan, it’s truly an investment, even if there’s never a return on that investment. It’s $250 that says I want to keep my team and its legacy preserved. It’s more than a donation, it’s a statement.

  55. ferrousfan says: Dec 28, 2011 6:05 PM

    Just to clarify – the Packers are prohibited from using the money for anything other than financing the stadium expansion. They can’t use the money to pay coaches, players, or staff. They can’t enhance their scouting department with the dough. They can’t fuel up the jet to court free agents with the money. The money generated from this voluntary tax reduces the amount the franchise has to finance for their expansion. They will also impose a seat fee for the 10,000 or so new seats created, and use traditional financing options to foot the rest of the bill. Without teams like the tradition of the Packers, you have…the NBA.

  56. packattack1967 says: Dec 28, 2011 6:05 PM

    Mines on the wall in a frame made of wood from the old bleacher seats when they were replaced with aluminum. Cool huh?? (you guys are jealous, I know)

  57. yevrag3535 says: Dec 28, 2011 6:10 PM

    Who cares, not my money.

  58. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Dec 28, 2011 6:10 PM

    God bless Packer fans. I get why they would buy this stock when it was to ensure that the team wouldn’t move, but why do people pay $275 for this souvenir now? You should be able to buy a game-worn A-Rodg jersey for that. And $25 to stuff the paper in an envelope and stick a stamp on it? That’s just insulting.

  59. PFTiswhatitis says: Dec 28, 2011 6:10 PM

    The league really ought to tie up the loophole on this and not allow the Packers to continue the charade. It is not right for the other teams nor for their own fans.

  60. macker1283 says: Dec 28, 2011 6:10 PM

    I’m kind of confused. Isn’t this like the same thing as selling team merchandise, which every team can do?

  61. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Dec 28, 2011 6:11 PM

    I heard Carl Gerbschmidt is wallpapering his basement with these things.

  62. sixburghrules says: Dec 28, 2011 6:11 PM

    contra74 says: Dec 28, 2011 5:28 PM

    Unless im out there snapping the ball or directing the defense on the field then NO I am not in control of the outcome of a teams game and neither are those who bought this fake stock. Green Bay Packers Marketing Team = genius…those who bought that toilet paper = idiots.

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    It is my understanding that this money goes to improvements at Packers stadium I love the idea that the community owns the team and not owners with big bucks. Don’t here them whining about a a new stadium or anything like that! Obviously a a Steeler fan

  63. theripster30 says: Dec 28, 2011 6:13 PM

    Other teams wish they could do just about everything like the world champion Packers. Hate on haters.

  64. realitypolice says: Dec 28, 2011 6:13 PM

    Do you have any idea how many revenue sources teams in larger markets have that the Packers don’t?

    Jerry World in Dallas probably generates more revenue in one home game than Lambeau field does all season.

    I’m not a Packers fan, but I can’t believe people don’t realize how unique a situation they have up there.

    I have been to Green Bay, and virtually every other NFL city in my travels. This is simply not an area that could support a privately owned team.

    If this team was not publicly owned and could not raise money through these “stock offerings”, they would not stay in Green Bay, I don’t care how many consecutive sell outs they have. No private owner in his right mind would be able to resist the allure of bigger markets.

    The local TV market is minuscule compared to others around the league, and their stadium does not generate the luxury suite revenue of the newer stadiums.

    I don’t mean that as a slap at the team or its fans or to insinuate they would ever move- they absolutely would not BECAUSE of this unique arrangement that allows them to survive financially in a market where they otherwise could not.

  65. bchampeau says: Dec 28, 2011 6:13 PM

    Here is why the Packers way is far superior to every other ownership structure in sports:

    1. Packer stock is available to everyone across the world, so when people from all over “donate” money for this piece of paper, they are contributing to the team, which benefits the city, without requiring the city, county, or state to foot 100% (or any %) of the bill in the form of additional taxes…which is what most rich owners request to keep a team in a city (see Zygi Wilf and the Vikings).

    2. It’s a voluntary donation, not forced tax—any hardcore fan would probably donate money to help their team if they knew that money wasn’t going to line a billionaire’s pocket with profits, and if they were guaranteed not to ever lose their team to another city. That’s what the Packers have. All other teams don’t.

    Bottom line is that every other team’s set-up is actually a joke. You pay money and taxes so a billionaire owner can make money off the team. Or you face the threat of relocation if your owner ever wants to move the team because a new city or state is willing to pay for a stadium for your team. Packer fans donate money voluntarily, and know that the money goes toward keeping a team with a first class stadium, and they do it knowing that an owner isn’t on the other end packing his pockets full of money. The joke is on everyone else. Not Packers fans.

  66. gb4ever0811 says: Dec 28, 2011 6:15 PM

    andygraham:

    Bravo! Couldn’t have said it better myself! My wife and I are buying a joint share tomorrow night when my paycheck comes in! Go, Pack, Go! I am so proud of them!

  67. mornelithe says: Dec 28, 2011 6:16 PM

    @ Packattack1967: That is pretty cool actually, I wouldn’t say I’m jealous, but definitely a cool piece of sports memorabilia.

  68. hodag54501 says: Dec 28, 2011 6:16 PM

    The writer of the article is a lawyer, and as such, should understand that the Packers are a not-for-profit tax-exempt entity. It is impossible for a for-profit entity to do this. That is why it hasn’t been done.
    This has been going on since the 1920’s. Apparently to the author this is something new. The league forbid any new teams from this type of business structure. So the league(the other for-profit teams) set this system up. It wasn’t imposed on them.

    The for-profiteers do things like having season ticket holders held up for ransom with stadium seat schemes, etc.
    This is the second time the author of the article has written about this topic today. Silly me, but are you also one of the folks jealous of success?
    Silly me.

  69. johnnyb216 says: Dec 28, 2011 6:16 PM

    Quick question: if the stock isn’t real and the shareholders don’t really exist, then why are the packers required to open their books every year at the anual shareholders meeting?

  70. knew8411 says: Dec 28, 2011 6:16 PM

    I seriously doubt, as one poster stated, that no one would buy it if it were a different team. I know if my team did it, I would give it consideration. Heck, I have paid considerably more for other team memoribelia.
    It would be nice, if other teams were able to come up with similar hooks.
    More power to them.
    This coming from someone who despises the Packers.

  71. packerbucky says: Dec 28, 2011 6:18 PM

    Unlike the government who taxes all of us for things we don’t want I can choose how to “foolishly” spend my hard earned money.
    All you idiots who can not see how you get used by billionaire owners laugh all you like. For my $250 I get a lot more entertainment owning a piece of the Pack than what I get for cleaning up after Occupy _____ protesters or deadbeat union drones.

  72. stellarperformance says: Dec 28, 2011 6:18 PM

    A voluntary tax paid by the people who firstmost enjoy the benefit, a tax which is not crammed down a taxpayers throat, who clearly does not want it?

    And Packer fans are getting bashed for this? Why?

    You will never see fan support as strong as this for any professional sport in the WORLD.

    We know what we’re doing, and we know what you’re doing too.

    Jealousy is not pretty.

  73. nflfollower says: Dec 28, 2011 6:18 PM

    The original stockholders will be shocked and appalled by the Wisconsin rednecks who show up this year to the annual meeting after buying those pieces of paper…..

    Oh wait… they’re all rednecks?….ugh never mind

  74. sixburghrules says: Dec 28, 2011 6:19 PM

    I think that the Packers are the most unique organization in sports. Is there another sports team (professional) that is owned by the city/town? The Steelers will ALWAYS be in Pittsburgh but if more teams were like the Packers we wouldn’t have so much temptation to mov to another city/state

  75. 700levelvet says: Dec 28, 2011 6:19 PM

    @whydoesrickcare
    ——————————————–
    Put it in your portable safe with your Cabbage Patch Kids Adoption papers….
    ————————-
    LMAO…….That’s freakin hilarious…..

  76. tombrookshire says: Dec 28, 2011 6:27 PM

    I know one of those teams shouldn’t be the Phila. Eagles. They are the ones with a license to print money.

  77. nolahxc says: Dec 28, 2011 6:28 PM

    I thought that’s why the rest of the NFL started selling beer for $10….

  78. bobhk says: Dec 28, 2011 6:28 PM

    Dec 28, 2011 6:01 PM
    bobhk says:
    Dec 28, 2011 5:31 PM
    Of course the dividend returned to the stockholders would be tiny as would be the ability to see stock for a profit as the market cap increases, as their is only a limited upside.
    Besides any increase in market cap would be offset by a dilution of the stock.
    But, perhaps the Pack fan are too stupid to understand that.

    ——————————————

    Thanks for the analysis, bobhk, but it’s been made pretty clear this is not a business investment. Now, back to your cubicle and continue being a geek.
    ————-
    Sure it isn’t (for a doofus like you). You just got suckered out of your little money. Go back to drinking your beer and scratching your a$$.

  79. briggsweatbird says: Dec 28, 2011 6:29 PM

    I received a share of stock for a Christmas present when the team sold “shares” in ’96 or ’97 or whenever it was. The stock is not worthless, because I am glad I have it. I can see why the stock would be viewed as worthless to a non Packer fan, or even some Packer fans. Personally, I think it is cool to have my name on a piece of paper that says I am a shareholder in the team. The share is framed and in my office. It is a conversation piece, if nothing else.

    I don’t for a minute look at the thing and think to myself, “I am an owner of the Green Bay Packers.” I don’t understand why anyone who doesn’t value the stuff spends any time putting down those who might like to have the stock. Is having a share in the team any different from owning a bobble head or a trading card of your favorite player? It is all just memorabilia, isn’t it?

  80. packermilitia says: Dec 28, 2011 6:30 PM

    A number of you guys have summed it up correctly but I’ll say it too…..The Packers will never move, even though they are in the smallest market in any pro sport. Owners of other NFL teams can day dream all they want, they knew what they were getting into when they bought those teams, lobbied for new stadiums and before revenue sharing, bought the best players they could afford. Lambeau is a beautiful state of the art, historic facility. Selling more shares will do nothing more that help preserve that and make further improvements…..without running to the taxpayers for more cash.

  81. 31teamsarebetterthanthepackers says: Dec 28, 2011 6:30 PM

    whydoesrickcare says:Dec 28, 2011 6:01 PM

    Anybody with common sense wouldn’t do this. Gullible Packers fans who have nothing but processed pork fat and cheese to sustain the little grey matter in their skull. The only guy still talking about the Pet Rock craze of the seventies is the guy who sold them. What goes on a share holders meeting? Do they charge parking at $20 a pop, sell cold beers for $8.00? Is the souvenir stand open? Please keep that piece of paper in your portable safe with your Cabbage Patch Kid’s adoption papers and the certificate of authenticity that came with your Elvis plate collection.

    This guy is my new idol…..Bravo! I couldn’t agree more!

  82. possiblecabbage says: Dec 28, 2011 6:30 PM

    I think part of the issue is that other teams are owned by generally very wealthy individuals and the profits or paychecks they garner from team ownership are entirely unknown to fans. Cowboys fans may not wish the enrich Jerry Jones by giving him money (for example) for this reason.

    The Packers on the other hand have no figure who stands to profit personally from a stock sale, as Packers’ executives salaries are both public and not outrageous (relative to others who have similar jobs in other industries).

    There’s nothing saying other teams can’t sell “stakeholder certificates” or something similar, it’s just potentially a harder sell when people purchasing them have no meaningful assurances that they aren’t just enriching someone who is already richer than they are.

  83. gbgirl12 says: Dec 28, 2011 6:32 PM

    If you are fan of your team, nothing you do for them is dumb. I got a stock share for Xmas and whether it’s worth anything or not doesn’t matter, I think it’s pretty damn cool. I also have a G tattoo. I love my team. Yes, I can really say MY team.

  84. bobhk says: Dec 28, 2011 6:32 PM

    This is absolutely hilarious. Morons like dchuwo don’t understand the very meaning of stock. Oh well. You can always depend upon social security (or maybe not).
    Hey, I have another “stock” for you to buy.

  85. stairwayto7 says: Dec 28, 2011 6:35 PM

    Typical ignorant Packer fan! They wear a piece of foam on their head and say they are ownerso f a pro team..omly when they win!

  86. e5again says: Dec 28, 2011 6:37 PM

    280,000 shares at $275 a pop is $77M. Wow.

  87. bamasleeper13 says: Dec 28, 2011 6:39 PM

    Mine is in my office, it gives me great pleasure to “own” part of the team I love. If my $275 adds seats to Lambeau then maybe I have a better chance to go to a game some time. It is just fun, all you people saying that Packer fans are stupid for doing this, I say” GO PACK GO!

  88. wordpressnamesstink says: Dec 28, 2011 6:41 PM

    The title of the article shows that these teams are more focused on making money than being successful on the field.

    Their wishes should instead be to be like the Packers by:
    -not wasting money in free agency
    -building through the draft
    -winning games
    -winning Super Bowls

    Guess what- if you do this you will be able to “print money”.

    I would also like to know how much a hot dog goes for at the “team executive’s” stadium. If you can’t find a way to make money running an NFL team you should do the honorable thing and quit your job immediately.

  89. broncobillie says: Dec 28, 2011 6:46 PM

    Basic math:
    Green Bay population 100,000 (approx.)
    Lambeau Stadium capacity 70,000 (approx.)

    Until your football stadium houses 70% of your city’s population, you won’t understand this, so just shut up.

    The relationship between the Packers and their hometown is unique. I wish the league had more of this type of team than the gaudy ego-driven teams like Dallas and DC. But it is what it is.

    The Packers did what their unique situation allows. Hats off to the Pack organization and their fans, who treat each other well. Happy New Year.

  90. bobhk says: Dec 28, 2011 6:56 PM

    @broncobillie why don’t you explain the packer situation instead of asking people to shut up.
    Could it be that u have none.
    This deal makes no sense from an investor point of view. You might as well be buying a piece of paper to make yourself to feel good.

  91. 122u says: Dec 28, 2011 6:58 PM

    Some people just don’t get it!
    Packer Fans are very proud of their team and rightfully so. They aren’t buying a piece of stock for profit. It is their way of supporting the team they love. Through their support, The Packers will be able to stay in Titletown indefinitely and be able to field a competitive team while other NFL Teams will come and go. In appreciation for their support, the Packers offer them a very authentic piece of stock for them to proudly showcase to their friends and family. Then they offer them an invitation to their annual shareholders meeting.
    In all honesty if you are a true football fan, wouldn’t that make you feel great to showcase your support of the team you love? Or better yet, to tell your boss you need the day off so you can go to your teams annual shareholder meeting? Some people need to get over the jealousy part and just be honest with themselves. Look at what you get in return if you donate $275 to a charity. Think about it before you badmouth all the great Packer Fans for their stupidity, etc. That “worthless piece of toiletpaper” suitable for framing along with the shareholder invitation is one hell of a token of appreciation in my opinion!

  92. earthtopft says: Dec 28, 2011 6:59 PM

    Packer fans are not idiots. In case the team has to move, they also purchased the majority of shares in the Brooklyn Bridge, the Golden Gate Bridge, Lake Ponchartrain Causeway, Route 66, etc. etc. They are way ahead of the game and prepared for any eventuality. Packers can cross the country in any direction free of charge.

  93. stellarperformance says: Dec 28, 2011 7:00 PM

    Showing support in this manner is a small price to pay for a fan base that appreciates the best team, at the best venue, lead by the best quarterback, taught by the best coach, supported by best general manager, etc., etc. Did I leave anybody out? Oh yeah, being amongst the most knowledgeable NFL fans in the league is under appreciated too. Does that just about cover it for all you know-it-alls? I’ll throw in the fact they have the best looking uniforms as well, just for yucks.

  94. bobhk says: Dec 28, 2011 7:04 PM

    @122u if that’s the reason then fine. Its like giving donation for the team to do well. But hopefully the pride of rooting for a team does not come before your family’s finances.
    That stock is quite pricey. I think only googles is higher.

  95. broncobillie says: Dec 28, 2011 7:04 PM

    bobhk: this is not an investment. It is a community with a special relationship with its team. The three posts following yours say it better than I can. They get it.

  96. gb4mn0 says: Dec 28, 2011 7:06 PM

    seaner44 says:
    Dec 28, 2011 5:31 PM
    Some teams need to focus on selling seats before they can think about selling “stock”

    ——————————————
    This is the most insightful and appropriate post I’ve read today. Major Kudos!

  97. broncobillie says: Dec 28, 2011 7:07 PM

    Oh, and I forgot to add – this is one team not headed to Los Angeles…

  98. packfaninchitown says: Dec 28, 2011 7:13 PM

    davekva72 says:
    I was one of the thousands of people who paid $125-$400 for an inscribed brick thats laid in the sidewalk at Cowboys Stadium.
    _______________________________
    Only a total idiot and loser Cowboys fan would pay $400 to put his name on a brick he doesn’t even own…

    or wait, maybe the fact you voluntarily helped your team by buying a memento like that brick is actually and understandable gesture for a fan to do who wants to support their team, just like the stock sale.

  99. beltmerica says: Dec 28, 2011 7:15 PM

    Or maybe it’s because Packer fans are loyal football enthusiasts who have no problem buying something we all know has no monetary value if it can contribute to the renovation of our beloved Lambeau Field. Sorry that we actually support our team and aren’t afraid to show it.

  100. 3yrsnfl says: Dec 28, 2011 7:18 PM

    The Bears should buy all the stock and wreak havoc at the shareholders meetings.

  101. bobhk says: Dec 28, 2011 7:22 PM

    @broncobillie
    122u explained packer fan point of view. I get it.
    But why call it a stock at all. The very definition of stock entails return of investment (monetary). Might as well call it donation. Hope you get that.

  102. garyman1 says: Dec 28, 2011 7:30 PM

    I’m pretty sure that any of the rich owners could get the same deal if they GIVE the team to the local community. How many do you think will do that ?

  103. devikesfan says: Dec 28, 2011 7:34 PM

    Good for the Packers and their fans!
    They are a small market team that uses a creative way to raise money. It works because the fans know that the Pack will NEVER leave Green Bay.
    If it also happens to anger Jerry Jones and the other hypocrite owners in the NFL in the process, so much the better!
    GB seems to be the ONLY team in the league that doesn’t crap all over it’s fans…

  104. 1265lombardiave says: Dec 28, 2011 7:36 PM

    There is a return. It’s called PACKER FOOTBALL EVERY SUNDAY FOR ANOTHER 20 YEARS.

    Level playing field? Like how the Yankees get 500 mil from local tv and my Brewers get 10! I’m not shedding tears. Trust me. In an uncapped system Jerry Jones would crush GB.
    The Angels don’t cry for KC and Milwaukee why should I cry for Jacksonville who has a RICH OWNER!

  105. childressrulz says: Dec 28, 2011 7:36 PM

    There are a lot of jealous people out there.

  106. westcoastpackerfan says: Dec 28, 2011 7:37 PM

    How hilarious that billionaire owners want to be able to sell “stock” like the Packers. As many commenters have said, they are jealous that they have a fan base willing to support their team like that, when other fan bases won’t even vote for a .25% sales tax increase or something to build a stadium. Not that I can blame them, when some rich douche like Zygi Wilf is running the team. The fact is, the Packers are public, and while they do earn revenue & profit, it is not going into someone like Mike Brown’s pocket so he can squander it away. It is directly invested in the team, which allows a small community like Green Bay to operate a team.

  107. touchdownroddywhite says: Dec 28, 2011 7:44 PM

    jrmbadger says: Dec 28, 2011 5:38 PM

    The Packers are also a non-profit organization. Did you ask that other league exec if they would be willing to either reinvest all earnings in the team or donate them to charity instead of lining their owner’s pockets?

    ______________________________

    This is ignorant. With so many loop holes and loose wordings in tax laws and business laws, all they’d have to do is “invest” in other companies and/or hire other companies(that their loved ones own) to qualify for “reinvesting their earnings in the team”. If not that then there surely are other avenues.

    It’d be more of a headache, but they’d work it…

  108. orangeflh says: Dec 28, 2011 7:45 PM

    nesuperfan says:
    Dec 28, 2011 5:32 PM

    In the previous story today, I was incorrect when I said that there were no voting rights, but I stand by my statement that it does give the Packers an unfair advantage.

    ANYTHING that ANY franchise can do, the rest should be able to do. It is simple, and for all you Packers’ fans, who don’t think that way, well, you say something very clear about how you would handle finding a lost wallet…not very honest.
    ““““““““““““““““““““`
    You should see what we did when we found your lost mom.

  109. dacinin says: Dec 28, 2011 7:55 PM

    I live in Indianapolis. Home of a very rich owner. Here I pay taxes to build a nice stadium for him. I pay 2% every time I go to a restaurant. I pay extra every time a relative visits and stays in a hotel.

    I have no choice in that.

    The Packers don’t do that, they instead ask for donations through this stock.

    The Packers don’t threaten their fan base, they ask those who want to to help build the stadium. Everyone else forces their fan base to build it for them.

    I support the Packer model. You can support the model of the Vikings if you want. The super rich blackmailing their city into building a stadium on land he owns so he can make even MORE money off them. Screw that.

    $250 for something to hang on the wall? How is that different than a signed jersey? NFLSHOP.com has then for $600. Which is more valuable? You make the call. You want to spend $600 on a jersey wall hanging, great. You want to spend $250 on “stock”? Great. You don’t want to do either, then don’t.

  110. vikescry1 says: Dec 28, 2011 8:02 PM

    i see a lot of hate on the packers here? i mean really it seems like jealousy? what does it matter if someone wants to by the fake stock that the pack is selling? the packers found a way to generate money without having to raise taxe’s to the state or local county the team and stadium is in. how many teams are fighting for a new stadiium right now? vikings, jags? how many teams have been rumered to go to L.A.? call packer fans stupid all you want, but there love for there team is more than any other teams fans! and by doing this they help cement this team staying here even longer. the packers don’t have a jerry jones or big pockets snyder in washington. if you’ve never been to greenbay to see a game, even if you dislike the packers and there fans. you should go, i bet you’ll at least gain a new respect for them.

  111. greenbay4ever says: Dec 28, 2011 8:04 PM

    People forget Packers stock was first issued to save the team from being dissolved and the people of Greenbay ponied up.

    It is has meaning for Packers fans and that’s all that matters.

    Merry Christmas Haters. Nothing you say can devalue it to me. Your words and hate have no power with this NFL OWNER.

  112. sportsrube90 says: Dec 28, 2011 8:11 PM

    Has anyone ever thought that maybe all the other fan’s are not dumb enough to waste $250 on something that means next to nothing? These people are from wisconsin.

  113. dd393 says: Dec 28, 2011 8:13 PM

    The Packers are a publicly owned franchise. No sugar daddies like like Jerry Jones tossing money around to build 100,000 seat mausoleums and screw the team up as a GM. No Dan Snyder to toss money at players who won’t produce and can screw up the team without being the GM. The money is going into stadium development and expansion, not into players. No blackmailing the public for more and more money to sink into a hole. Just a great franchise who has found a way to compete with the millionaires who treat their teams as toys.

  114. bobhk says: Dec 28, 2011 8:16 PM

    dacinin says:
    Dec 28, 2011 7:55 PM
    I live in Indianapolis. Home of a very rich owner. Here I pay taxes to build a nice stadium for him. I pay 2% every time I go to a restaurant. I pay extra every time a relative visits and stays in a hotel.

    I have no choice in that.

    The Packers don’t do that, they instead ask for donations through this stock.
    ————–
    Isn’t Lambeau field owned by the city of GB and the Packers are owned by the stock holders. As far as I know they are two different entities.
    Someone can correct me if I am wrong but isn’t the responsibility for maintenance of that stadium the city of GB? Or do the Packers do it?

  115. bobhk says: Dec 28, 2011 8:21 PM

    Actually I looked it up on wikipedia:

    It was to be paid for partly by the team via the 1997-98 stock sale, which netted more than $20 million. Most of the proceeds were to be paid through a 0.5% sales tax in Brown County and personal seat license fees on season ticket holders.

    (this for the late 90s renovation)

  116. packerfan1000 says: Dec 28, 2011 8:27 PM

    Maybe because no other fan base would buy it.

    ————————-

    Yes they would….Jealous!!!

  117. packerfan1000 says: Dec 28, 2011 8:28 PM

    ONLY Packer fans are dumb enough to fall for it

    ———————

    Jealous!

  118. packerfan1000 says: Dec 28, 2011 8:32 PM

    The more they sell the more meaningless each share becomes.

    ——————-

    Spoken by a man who doesn’t get it. All of the shares are meaningless, no matter how many are sold. Listen to some of the testimonials the fans who bought stock have. They’ll tell you why they bought it. And not one of them sees it as a financial decision…because it wasn’t. Have any of you ever bought a jersey of one of your favorite players? Where do you think that money goes? And, if you didn’t notice, the jerseys don’t increase in value either.

  119. packerfan1000 says: Dec 28, 2011 8:40 PM

    If the packers were a real public company they would be required to split shares. What a joke. Just goes to show a cheddar head brain has lots of holes. Pay for a piece of worthless paper?

    ———–

    Jealous!!!

  120. freewayjim says: Dec 28, 2011 8:43 PM

    randomguy9999 says:
    Dec 28, 2011 5:52 PM
    I bet Jerry Jones has been trying to figure out how to get his face worked into the artwork of a Cowboys Stock certificate… just so he can give them away for free….
    ———————————————
    Dude, that was awesome! I’m still chuckling at that.

    I wonder if the “Packers” could happen today?

    Say a city, San Antonio for argument sake, who have a stadium wanted an NFL franchise so bad that the city itself came up with the funding to buy an existing team or get an expansion team. The city (a special board of elected officials) would then hire people to run and operate the team. The team would either be a non-profit entity or for-profit with proceeds going back to the city coffers. Would the NFL allow it?

  121. packerfan1000 says: Dec 28, 2011 8:44 PM

    @broncobillie why don’t you explain the packer situation instead of asking people to shut up.
    Could it be that u have none.
    This deal makes no sense from an investor point of view. You might as well be buying a piece of paper to make yourself to feel good.

    ——————

    Again, spoken by a man who doesn’t get it. NOBODY bought these pieces of paper to profit from it.

    Jealous!!!

  122. packerpete says: Dec 28, 2011 8:44 PM

    What do you think cities like Des Moines, Peoria, Lincoln, Boise, and countless other cities in the 100,000 to 150,000 population range would do to get their hands on an NFL franchise in their town? Raise local taxes? Sell stock? Every one of those towns and their residents would love to get an NFL team because of the national exposure the city would get. Yet, Green Bay is the only town that size to have a team solely because of the original stock sale. That kept this team alive, and 90 years later, winning championships. Yes, I’ve got my share.

  123. grandpoopah says: Dec 28, 2011 8:51 PM

    If the fans are dumb enough to buy it (without being pressured into it by the team), then go for it. I have a problem with owners pressuring taxpayers into funding their for-profit business ventures, but this is different. The Packers are offering to sell people a piece of paper for $275 and if people are gullible enough to accept that deal, who is to tell them no? These are people who call themselves cheeseheads and actually wear cheese on their f@cking heads, after all.

  124. vikescry1 says: Dec 28, 2011 8:53 PM

    hows that haynesworth signing going for you? greenbay doesn’t have an owner to pay that kind of money. lot’s of hate for the superbowl champs

  125. lioncrazy says: Dec 28, 2011 8:55 PM

    Who cares? Sounds like whiners from Atlanta all over again. Let them have their deal.

  126. tjv027 says: Dec 28, 2011 9:11 PM

    They’re right, it’s an unfair advantage…just like New York has an unfair advantage to attract free agents because of potentially more lucrative sponsorship deals, as well as a bigger market to sell jerseys to. And just like cities like Tampa and Phoenix have unfair advantages because they are much more likely to have Super Bowl home games than anyone else because they play in a warm weather city. and just like the Chargers have an unfair advantage because the city of San Diego is contractually obligated to buy off any unsold Chargers tickets, giving the Chargers less economic incentive to spend money on a quality product.

    Every team has their advantages and disadvantages. Besides, privately owned teams may be restricted from selling shares of the team, but that’s hardly what the Packers are even doing. They’re essentially having a fundraiser, and a “share” is a nice piece of paper that says you did your part. If your team wants to “print money”, just re-brand the selling of shares into something like a “fan contribution fund”, add water, and boom.

  127. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Dec 28, 2011 9:11 PM

    Vegas Guy says: Dec 28, 2011 5:25 PM

    If I was a Packer share holder I would be tuh-huh-icked. That’s just like diluting a real stock by splitting it except in this case you don’t get twice the shares.

    Yes they’re just a piece of paper in reality but still.

    Very unfair.
    —————————————
    As a Packer shareholder since 1997, I have no idea what you mean. Why would I be ticked? I think I’m more ticked that you’re too much of an idiot to realize that nobody should or would be ticked about this.

  128. tjv027 says: Dec 28, 2011 9:14 PM

    dacinin says:
    Dec 28, 2011 7:55 PM
    I live in Indianapolis. Home of a very rich owner. Here I pay taxes to build a nice stadium for him. I pay 2% every time I go to a restaurant. I pay extra every time a relative visits and stays in a hotel.

    I have no choice in that.

    The Packers don’t do that, they instead ask for donations through this stock.

    The Packers don’t threaten their fan base, they ask those who want to to help build the stadium. Everyone else forces their fan base to build it for them.

    I support the Packer model. You can support the model of the Vikings if you want. The super rich blackmailing their city into building a stadium on land he owns so he can make even MORE money off them. Screw that.

    $250 for something to hang on the wall? How is that different than a signed jersey? NFLSHOP.com has then for $600. Which is more valuable? You make the call. You want to spend $600 on a jersey wall hanging, great. You want to spend $250 on “stock”? Great. You don’t want to do either, then don’t.
    ===============================

    It really can’t be said much better than that.

  129. 122u says: Dec 28, 2011 9:16 PM

    devikesfan says:
    Dec 28, 2011 7:34 PM
    Good for the Packers and their fans!
    They are a small market team that uses a creative way to raise money. It works because the fans know that the Pack will NEVER leave Green Bay.

    Vikesfan,
    You are one classy dude! I hope your Vikes stick around here. We have a good rivalry and it wouldn’t be the same. I hope Adrian Peterson heals up 100% next season. He brings a lot to the game and no one wants to see a great player go down.
    To bobhk:
    We all have our own ideas on what is “pricey” or otherwise, to each his/her own. People plan expensive hunting trips out west each year when there are beautiful bucks running around in their own backyards. People spend fortunes going up to Canada fishing when there are many beautiful lakes full of fish within a hundred mile radius of their homes. Everyone has their own thing that is important to them. If a person loves football and loves their team, why tear them down for showing their support? OK, if you think the stock, donation or whatever is too “pricey” for someone who loves their team, consider this:
    When Binladen launched his assault on the WTC, our local TV stations gave a reputable organization to give donations to help the people and families. I donated $200 and didn’t even get a Thank You back. For that $275, the Packers give you a nice stock worth framing and an invitation to their shareholders meeting every year. I think that’s a nice way of saying Thank You and a hell of a lot more than I got for my donation to charity! So as far as “pricey” goes, there are certain things you can’t put a price on. That is up to the person and no one has the right to badmouth them for something they love or believe in.

  130. toddselleck says: Dec 28, 2011 9:23 PM

    Its funny reading some of these posts strictly based on not knowing how the people of wisconsin feel about there team…… Alot of people not familiar with the area judge our team based on the population of the city of green bay when they should be basing it off the entire state…..I live over four hours away from green bay and a stones throw over the St Croix river into Vikings country and the passion for the packers is just as rich as if i were sitting at curleys pub…..Everyone knows the stock is worthless…..Just like we know that the beer, brats and cheese will make us fat we do it anyways because thats who we are…..There is a sense of pride in this state……..we do what we want and we live with it….Maybe instead of being envious of it adopt it into your own lifestyle instead of being miserable!!!!!! Just a thought!

  131. kenn715 says: Dec 28, 2011 9:34 PM

    For all of you that think this is a stupid investment I see you buying 500 dollar phones that don’t last even a year You’ll also be dumb enough to drink that much on a weekend binge and have a hangover to show for it.( So who is dumb here.)????

  132. nickynick04 says: Dec 28, 2011 9:42 PM

    Other teams do sell worthless paper ,,saying its valuable…Take the Steelers….$250 for a print of Heinz Field…the print costs pennies to print, and sell for $100’s….what is that ?

  133. Mr. Hand says: Dec 28, 2011 9:49 PM

    The point that keeps on getting missed is this: when that signed jersey is sold on NFL.com the revenue is split evenly between the 32 clubs. When the Packers sell “stock,” they get to keep all the revenue.

    This is the part that many feel is unfair.

    Is that so difficult to understand?

  134. Matt says: Dec 28, 2011 9:51 PM

    That league executive has no idea what he’s talking about. Money from the stock sale can only be used for improvements to Lambeau, nothing else. How does that give the Packers a financial edge? The Packers also are a not for profit organization that have to open their books to the public every year. Would love to see Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder have to do that…

    This is just another petty, jealous, Packers hating article from the league leader in that category.

  135. bobhk says: Dec 28, 2011 9:53 PM

    kenn715 says:Dec 28, 2011 9:34 PM

    For all of you that think this is a stupid investment I see you buying 500 dollar phones that don’t last even a year You’ll also be dumb enough to drink that much on a weekend binge and have a hangover to show for it.( So who is dumb here.)????
    ———-
    Before you lump everyone who’s criticizing into the same category realize some of us don’t throw our money like that.
    Besides its not about whether u should spend that money or not. Its about calling it what is: a sports memorabilia not a stock. That entails a monetary return.

  136. keeley2 says: Dec 28, 2011 9:58 PM

    To all the haters (not just Vikings fans): I coughed up $275 for a single share. I just spent another $350 to have it framed (archival quality). I will pass it down to my kids and hopefully my kids kids. This team is something I believe in (as all of you believe in your team). Through thick (meeting Lombardi as a kid) and thin (how about the 80’s?) I’m a Packer fan. Nothing you say will change my mind.

  137. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Dec 28, 2011 10:06 PM

    Personally, I think this is cooler than owning a jersey because I think it is just silly to wear another man’s name on my back. Packer stock owners are just contributing to the stadium, they know that. The last round of improvements were amazing and I love going to the an awesome stadium to see the team I support play in. The certificate is just cool conversation piece, maybe not a work of are conversation piece because it is unique… If other team did it, it wouldn’t be as special.

  138. oggreengold says: Dec 28, 2011 10:09 PM

    yet another garbage anti-pack-wisco rag from flo. there’s only one team in the league without an uberwealthy owner. now who would that be? perhaps all other teams should be forced to kick the owners out and have the states run them? Its unfair to the packers not to have the deep pockets of a douche owner. (wink) sounds like a lot of jealous teams and fans out there. GO PACK GO

  139. cereal blogger says: Dec 28, 2011 10:17 PM

    More Wisconsin bs,,,they buy fake stock, they vote people into office then whine like school girls when they learn that officials platform…..Wisconsin reminds me of America’s pot smoking high school student,,,,”wait what”

  140. jerseyshoregiant says: Dec 28, 2011 10:20 PM

    greenbay4ever says:Dec 28, 2011 8:04 PM

    People forget Packers stock was first issued to save the team from being dissolved and the people of Greenbay ponied up.

    It is has meaning for Packers fans and that’s all that matters.

    Merry Christmas Haters. Nothing you say can devalue it to me. Your words and hate have no power with this NFL OWNER.
    ————————————-
    bro there aren’t enough people in Green Bay to pony up!! Say the people of Wisconsin Ponied up!!!
    An no packerfan1000 I AM NOT jealous because if it wasn’t for the Giants(The Mara’s) agreeing to split TV revenue there wouldn’t be a team in Green Bay or any other small market for that matter.

  141. dacinin says: Dec 28, 2011 10:30 PM

    Mr. Hand says:
    Dec 28, 2011 9:49 PM
    The point that keeps on getting missed is this: when that signed jersey is sold on NFL.com the revenue is split evenly between the 32 clubs. When the Packers sell “stock,” they get to keep all the revenue.

    This is the part that many feel is unfair.

    Is that so difficult to understand?

    Not at all difficult to understand. This is revenue that is going to the stadium, not players or operations like “real” merchandise does. It is a voluntary tax placed upon those willing to pay.

    Should all tax revenue then be shared amongst all teams? Should the $ I pay to Irsay also go to the Packers? How about the money the people of Texas pay for Jerry’s palace – should that be shared amongst the others? No you say? UNFAIR I WHINE.

    My point about the jersey is that people who mock Packer fans for buying a what is nothing more than memorabilia miss the point. I bought a $250 piece of paper which means more to me than a $600 jersey some people hang on their wall. To each their own.

    I chose to donate to my team. Write your favorite billionaire a check for $250 and ask him to send you a thank you note and you too can have something to frame. I won’t moan about that billionaire not sharing part of your donation.

    So my team’s stadium tax got me a piece of paper, that’s fine – I chose to pay that tax. Maybe the other billionaire owners should require a copy of their blackmail tax legislation be mailed to all the unwilling taxpayers so they can hang it on their wall. Call it stock if it makes you feel better. Who exactly are the suckers here? Here’s a hint — it’s every single person that has ever paid a dime in involuntary tax to build a billionaire’s sports arena so millionaires can play ball in it and make everyone but those paying the bill more money…. in short – everyone.

  142. grandsonofcoach says: Dec 28, 2011 10:31 PM

    I mentioned this on a previous post, but basically I’ve been enjoying watching the Packers for over 30 years, with 16+ games a season and have enjoyed two Superbowl wins. My “investment” back into the team (stock purchase from the prior offering) comes to significanly less than $1 per game watched. Just for comparison I know of Viking fans who have spent just as much money to watch a 3-12 Vikings team (at the dump called the metrodome) lose just 1 game. And I get the pride of helping support my team while having my family name forever on the books of this legendary franchise. If you can’t understand that then I truly doubt you are much of a fan of whatever team you say you follow.

  143. packerowner says: Dec 28, 2011 10:40 PM

    Received a share as a gift from my wife for Christmas. Most memorable holiday gift. Better than a sweater other fans may have received. I don’t know why other fans gripe. $250 is what most of us spend anyway to attend a single game or buy some other memorabilia. This is better than raising taxes, or an owner threatening to move. This also allows a team from a city of a hundred thousand people compete against teams from a large metropolis.

  144. nomanning4luck says: Dec 28, 2011 11:06 PM

    Mike brown has been up for days trying to think of a way he can do something like this.

  145. coloradopackerbacker says: Dec 28, 2011 11:06 PM

    What many don’t understand is this is an investment towards winning. Lambeau is a tough place to play for visitors as it is, add 10% more seats in an end zone and now you just added a few false start penalties deep in visitor territory. That should equate to more wins and more playoff games in Lambeau. I will gladly invest $275.00 to be able to watch more Packers games into January.

  146. anactualnflowner says: Dec 28, 2011 11:24 PM

    How much do you think ole’ Curly Lambeau pays the Packers a year for the naming rights of Lambeau Field? Zilch.

    How much do you think Reliant Pays the Texans for the naming rights in Houston? A Whopping 10 million bucks a year!

    This is going to infuse the Packers with 65 – 75 million dollars, and the last time they did this was in ’97. If you do the rough math, this is about 5 million a year for a the Pack (assuming they do this every 14 years). Stop complaining you losers!

  147. johnnyb216 says: Dec 29, 2011 12:07 AM

    For everybody that says its not a real stock, again do some research before running your mouth. It is countersigned and registered by wells Fargo bank, N.A. and printed by the American bank note company. It has a transfer agent and registration (although it can only be transferred to blood relatives I believe). It contains your name and address as well as the number of shares its worth. It’s also loaded with several different kinds of serial numbers which I don’t know the meaning of. I don’t know guys, it was issued by a major bank and engraved by a major stock and bond engraving company. Sounds legit to me.

  148. outlawshark says: Dec 29, 2011 12:16 AM

    I tried to post that only a lowlife would call another person’s treasure “toilet paper” and it got deleted by the mods. Let’s try this again. After some of these other comments, all I have is a “C’Mon Man” for these mods.

  149. rubberinnertube says: Dec 29, 2011 12:20 AM

    I take no issue with what the Packers have done. What does bother me is when purchasers call themselves “owners” or say “we” like they actually own the team.

    YOU ARE NOT ACTUALLY AN OWNER!

    You’ve done a great thing for the team and you are some of the greatest fans around, but don’t be delusional about it.

  150. morganwick says: Dec 29, 2011 12:43 AM

    I used to love the fact that the Packers are “the only publicly-owned franchise in professional sports”… but crap like this makes me wonder if I should.

  151. outlawshark says: Dec 29, 2011 1:17 AM

    Forgot about the resident Viking fan.

  152. packerfanfordecades says: Dec 29, 2011 1:29 AM

    It’s true … Green Bay does have the best looking uniforms. Love the Green & Gold.

    My three girls (ages 10, 7, and 6) all have minature Green Bay Packer cheerleader outfits. When they put them on while watching a game on TV, it makes me feel like a million bucks. We bought the uniforms at the Pro Shop at Lambeau Field a few years back ….. and made a special trip up there from Racine to just have them see the stadium and the Packer Hall of Fame and see Lombardi’s statue and be able to touch the grass on the field during a guided tour.

    Been underemployed for the last 8 months so can’t afford a share of stock. Sure wish I could.

    I can’t be more honest about my feelings when I say that it is a precious blessing to be a Green Bay Packer fan and live in Wisconsin.

  153. kingcarlbanks says: Dec 29, 2011 1:31 AM

    I was going to say something witty, but I buy a new Giants jersey every year.

  154. Andre's Johnson says: Dec 29, 2011 3:14 AM

    Well, this won’t be settled any time soon. But one thing’s for sure: Green Bay fans cannot spell.

  155. bobhk says: Dec 29, 2011 3:58 AM

    packerfan1000 says:
    Dec 28, 2011 8:44 PM
    @broncobillie why don’t you explain the packer situation instead of asking people to shut up.
    Could it be that u have none.
    This deal makes no sense from an investor point of view. You might as well be buying a piece of paper to make yourself to feel good.

    ——————

    Again, spoken by a man who doesn’t get it. NOBODY bought these pieces of paper to profit from it.

    Jealous!!!
    ————-
    Me Jealous or you clueless.
    If nobody bought them to profit from them then why call them *stock*. Just call them memorabilia. I have no problem with that.
    People do buy worthless crap all the time (although, if you are a packer fan you may not consider it as worthless crap).
    So many people on this board coming out and saying it was worth it. I’m sure it was for you if Packers are your pride. Just don’t call it stock. I think it’s laughable that the team is marketing it in such a way.
    Please feel free to thumbs down this if you don’t understand this basic.

  156. clintonportisheadd says: Dec 29, 2011 5:42 AM

    Lets see……

    Do I want to pay $250 to keep my chosen team from the hands of a Snyder or Jones or Mike Brown?

    Do I want to pay $250 to know that my team will never put a gun to my head and say “Give us a new free stadium or we are moving to…..”

    Do I want to pay $250 to know my team plays in a stadium named after it’s founder and not some online brokerage or bankrupt airline?

    Do you even have to ask?

  157. arch1963 says: Dec 29, 2011 8:17 AM

    EVERY NFL team “prints money” just like the Packers. why is selling a piece of paper any different than buying a stupid brick in a wall or a paver in a sidewalk? all teams have gimics where they sell part of the team or stadium to raise money, there is no advantage to Green Bay, they just sell paper instead of bricks, blocks, pavers, gates, doors, ETC. it’s freakin rediculous what people will pay for.

  158. almighty1 says: Dec 29, 2011 8:47 AM

    Why are people so short sighted? I’m being nice by not saying stupid btw. Packer fans aren’t dumb for doing this. They don’t believe it is real stock, nor are any under the impression that it has value (other than $250). Its a community based team and the community supports it. The Packers are part of the identity of the people that live in Wisconsin. They take pride in the fact that they are a small market and do not have an owner. People on this site claiming they are gullible or stupid for buying this “souvenir” are really just quite moronic themselves.

  159. iluvbears says: Dec 29, 2011 9:32 AM

    The Packers also don’t have to worry about such extraneous stuff as keeping their state politicians happy so they can get their stadium funded when needed. That is a huge distraction for all the other teams in the league and also a pretty big expense to their organizations. The Packers, not having to worry about that stuff, can devote their money and attention to nothing but developing their football team.

  160. iluvbears says: Dec 29, 2011 9:43 AM

    packerfanfordecades says: Dec 29, 2011 1:29 AM

    It’s true … Green Bay does have the best looking uniforms. Love the Green & Gold.

    My three girls (ages 10, 7, and 6) all have minature Green Bay Packer cheerleader outfits. When they put them on while watching a game on TV, it makes me feel like a million bucks. We bought the uniforms at the Pro Shop at Lambeau Field a few years back ….. and made a special trip up there from Racine to just have them see the stadium and the Packer Hall of Fame and see Lombardi’s statue and be able to touch the grass on the field during a guided tour.

    Been underemployed for the last 8 months so can’t afford a share of stock. Sure wish I could.

    I can’t be more honest about my feelings when I say that it is a precious blessing to be a Green Bay Packer fan and live in Wisconsin.

    ————————————————–

    Blech!!!

  161. rc33 says: Dec 29, 2011 9:56 AM

    A precious blessing to live in Wisconsin?
    Blech!!! is right.

    I’d just as soon buy my favorite players’ authentic jersey for just about the same cost. You gotta be an idiot to waste money on that meaningless slip of paper.

  162. stellarperformance says: Dec 29, 2011 10:40 AM

    280,000 shares @ $250.00 each. This is a voluntary tax, one which is not burdened upon the citizens. All snide remarks from those of you that will never enjoy what we have and cannot fathom our willingness to contribute, are greeted with yawns around here. We’ve heard it all before. We realize you are incapable of understanding, because you’ve never experienced anything like it. Take my word for it……it’s all good.

  163. therealjcannon says: Dec 29, 2011 10:48 AM

    Like this comment if you are a Packers Owner and Shareholder.

  164. jrmbadger says: Dec 29, 2011 10:59 AM

    “rubberinnertube says:
    Dec 29, 2011 12:20 AM
    I take no issue with what the Packers have done. What does bother me is when purchasers call themselves “owners” or say “we” like they actually own the team.

    YOU ARE NOT ACTUALLY AN OWNER!

    You’ve done a great thing for the team and you are some of the greatest fans around, but don’t be delusional about it.”
    ====================================

    One question…. If the shareholders are not the owners, then who owns the Packers?

    The Packers are a corporation. That means the shareholders own the corporation. The fact that its a non-profit doesn’t change that. It just means that the owners don’t get any payout on the profits. While the financial benefits of ownership are not there, controlling the direction of the Packers still is possible. Shareholders receive one vote per share on who sits on the Packers board of directors.

    Now I know, practically speaking, owning 1 share out of hundreds of thousands doesn’t confer much voting power, and perhaps it may be a bit of an overstatement to say that you are an owner. It may be more accurate to say that you are a part owner, or something along those lines. However, most people understand what you mean when you say owner.

    At the end of the day, hundreds of thousands of Packer FANS, collectively, own the Green Bay Packers and determine how it will be managed and run. By collective action, we can ensure that the Packers are a well run team and franchise for generations to come.

    Signed….

    Part owner of the Green Bay Packers

  165. luckyarmpit says: Dec 29, 2011 11:10 AM

    Few think irk me more than “we” when used to describe a sports team. You are not on the active roster, and you don’t own a piece of the team. Stop saying “we”, please. It’s my team, as in I root for them, but I do not describe my team as we. Glad to see that bothers someone else besides me.

    One more time for those that didn’t understand… you are not on the active roster…. stop saying “we”. Thank you.

  166. The Prophet says: Dec 29, 2011 11:19 AM

    Heard a quote from the Packer fans “Baaah! Baaaah! Baaaaah! ….”

  167. dukemarc says: Dec 29, 2011 1:13 PM

    What a bunch of jealousy crybabies there are on this website. You all need to grab your binkies and check your diapers.

  168. burkartsj says: Dec 29, 2011 3:23 PM

    To BOBHK:

    Has anyone ever described you as pedantic? You seem very concerned with the technicalities and semantics of “stock” issues.

    Technically, this is stock. Just like any other company sells preferred stock, voting stock, non-voting stock, common stock, etc. Owning “preferred stock” in IBM is different than earning “common stock” and owners of one versus the other will find that they have different privleges as well as different values.

    Now this Packer stock is very unique in its structure (I won’t pretend to understand the legal details of the structure), but it is legally speaking stock. The team has been very forthcoming in explaining to fans what the stock grants them, essentially nothing, and people buying it know that is not an investment like buying a share of Microsoft is an investment. They buy it for all of the reasons that dozens of people on this blog have already summed up.

    I am a Green Bay native, life-long, diehard Packers fan currently marooned in Eagles country. I have never purchased stock when Green Bay has offered it for sale because I, like you, don’t think it’s a good “investment”. I would rather put the money toward buying tickets or paying for a satellite subscription so I can watch the team play. I do however understand why other people buy it and I think it’s great – GO PACK GO.

  169. johnnyb216 says: Dec 29, 2011 3:24 PM

    Talking to these people is like talking to a post. They spew out nonsense with no facts to back it up. The fact of the matter is that yes, this is real stock. As real as the American money we used to pay for it. It was issued by a major bank and regulated by the federal government. We understand that it has no real monetary value and that was made abundantly clear before we made our purchase. What it does have is sentimental value. Being a packer fan is something that is passed down from generation to generation (not to say that were the only ones with that distinction). I don’t care that my $250 only bought a sliver of a sliver of the team (and yes, it is worth about one 4millionth of the team). I don’t care if my stock is worth any money. It was not intended to make me money. It was intended to help my team expand and sustain future growth without costing the taxpayers a dime. So if you want to call us idiots for spending $250 on a “worthless” piece of paper, I don’t really care because you just don’t understand. Remember, these are the same “idiots” that made it possible for the smallest market in professional sports be able to successfully support a team for almost 100 years while selling out every game for the last 50 years, has another 87,000 people in line for season tickets, while winning 13 world championships along the way. Yup, sounds like a bunch of idiots to me. One thing we are pretty good at though, polishing super bowl trophies. So what’s your story?

  170. stavreafavre says: Dec 29, 2011 4:11 PM

    bobhk – the definition of stock entails return of investment? Wonder how many Enron shareholders still proudly keep their stock certificates in a safe or prominent place?
    The return that Packer fans are getting from this stock is that their team will continue to play in a modern stadium with great facilities for their team. That’s what we want and that’s what we get. Pretty simple, really.

  171. contra74 says: Dec 29, 2011 4:36 PM

    johnnyb216 says:
    Dec 29, 2011 3:24 PM
    Talking to these people is like talking to a post. They spew out nonsense with no facts to back it up. The fact of the matter is that yes, this is real stock.
    ———
    HAHAHAHA – sorry, I stopped reading after that last line up there. pure comedy.

  172. packersownerandshareholder says: Dec 29, 2011 5:55 PM

    If you wish you could buy stock in your favorite team then like this comment.

  173. xnavyct says: Dec 30, 2011 10:34 AM

    Not a Packer fan, but I don’t see why I should care if a Green Bay fan wants to buy one of these and put it on the wall.

    What’s the difference between buying one of these, or a $275 authentic helmet off of NFL Shop to put on your shelf? They’re both just souvenirs. At least with the certificates, those fans know where their money is going.

  174. mjs2012 says: Dec 30, 2011 12:16 PM

    is it true that Aaron Rodgers hates cancer patients too?

  175. elgaffo says: Dec 30, 2011 12:48 PM

    you’re dumb- I’m smart
    you drink beer- I drink wine
    you eat cheese- I hate cheese

    I’ll take all that, and a QB that wasnt fortunate enough to be in GQ magazine- over your spray tan, cant put the ipad down, pay a nanny to take care of your kids, luxury box suite lifestyle any day.

    Isnt stereotyping fun!!

    13 world championships…and counting
    They dont call it the Lombardi trophy for nothing

  176. contra74 says: Dec 30, 2011 2:58 PM

    elgaffo says:
    Dec 30, 2011 12:48 PM
    you’re dumb- I’m smart
    you drink beer- I drink wine
    you eat cheese- I hate cheese

    I’ll take all that, and a QB that wasnt fortunate enough to be in GQ magazine- over your spray tan, cant put the ipad down, pay a nanny to take care of your kids, luxury box suite lifestyle any day.

    Isnt stereotyping fun!!

    13 world championships…and counting
    They dont call it the Lombardi trophy for nothing
    ——-
    Its not called stereotyping when you buy a worthless paper that they tell you is stock and part ownership. Its called being a plain old idiot.

  177. sevensixtwonato says: Dec 30, 2011 3:05 PM

    burkartsj…. Very well put.

  178. badfish6907 says: Dec 30, 2011 3:36 PM

    Maybe the other owners should become publicly owned and give up all their profits off of their teams if they want to sell stock. The Packers are the only team with the ownership makeup to be able to do it, so this article is just a waste of time.

    For the idiots bashing people buying this stuff. It is a souvenir. Not at all different than spending $275 at the pro shop on something else to throw on the shelf or wall. Nobody hides the fact that it is nothing more than a glorified donation to renovate the stadium.

  179. nickynick04 says: Dec 30, 2011 4:02 PM

    Bottom line is that every other team’s set-up is actually a joke. You pay money and taxes so a billionaire owner can make money off the team. Or you face the threat of relocation if your owner ever wants to move the team because a new city or state is willing to pay for a stadium for your team. Packer fans donate money voluntarily, and know that the money goes toward keeping a team with a first class stadium, and they do it knowing that an owner isn’t on the other end packing his pockets full of money. The joke is on everyone else. Not Packers fans.

  180. packmanfan says: Dec 30, 2011 4:37 PM

    Money can’t buy happiness or pride.
    Therefore I am very happy and proud of my Packers and I didn’t spend a dime on them.

  181. packmanfan says: Dec 30, 2011 4:41 PM

    gbgirl12 says:
    Dec 28, 2011 6:32 PM
    If you are fan of your team, nothing you do for them is dumb. I got a stock share for Xmas and whether it’s worth anything or not doesn’t matter, I think it’s pretty damn cool. I also have a G tattoo. I love my team. Yes, I can really say MY team.
    ———————————————————-

    I don’t have any stock but I can say “my team, our Packers, We won,” etc etc. because it is commonplace and acceptable for all sports fans to refer to who they are fans of to say it that way.

  182. atthemurph says: Dec 31, 2011 10:32 AM

    Hey dumbasses. Every other team in the league can do what the Packers are doing with one small exception. They only need to make their share offering private.

    Jerry Jones needs some dough for the new stadium polish? Sell some Cowboys stock to Boone Pickens!

    Danny Snyder needs a few more bad free agents?? Call up Bubba Clinton and his cattle futures trading spouse and sell some Redskins stock!

    Here’s the deal. The Packers have been publicly controlled for decades. They don’t have some arrogant A-hole of an owner who gets off being in control. Any other team can “print money” by simply selling some paper called stock. This jealousy because Green bay doesn’t have to deal with the Jerry Jones of the world is hilarious.

    BTW, I “own” the team since 1997. I don’t see why buying a share of stock is any different than buying some stupid jersey of a player who won’t be with the team in two years, except I get to vote AND got to the shareholders meeting in the stadium where we get tours of the lockers, on the field, the real hall of fame, etc.

    Seems to me that my deal beats the crap out of some jersey from china that falls apart int he wash in a couple months.

  183. ihateyoujeff says: Dec 31, 2011 3:06 PM

    Everybody else see’s Packers fans buying “fake stock to go to a owners meeting every year” when in actuality Packers fans see it as giving $250 dollars to support the team we eat sleep and live. I would sell everything I own for this team and that’s what it’s about. Next time I go to Lambeau they’ll be a new HD tv screen that I’ll get to enjoy and more seats for others to enjoy the game with me. It’ll be $250 well spent.

    “one mind, one goal, one purpose and one heart”

  184. teamnorsecore says: Jan 1, 2012 5:14 AM

    ihateyoujeff says:
    Dec 31, 2011 3:06 PM
    Everybody else see’s Packers fans buying “fake stock to go to a owners meeting every year” when in actuality Packers fans see it as giving $250 dollars to support the team we eat sleep and live. I would sell everything I own for this team and that’s what it’s about. Next time I go to Lambeau they’ll be a new HD tv screen that I’ll get to enjoy and more seats for others to enjoy the game with me. It’ll be $250 well spent.

    “one mind, one goal, one purpose and one heart”
    …….
    Whoa!!!! Slow down guy…..I think you are letting your emotions get the best of you. “I would sell everything I own for this team and that’s what it’s about”……..really? I seriously hope you are not that delusional…..its a pro football team, not your first born child…..geeeesh!!!

  185. golonger says: Jan 2, 2012 1:38 AM

    ..they do print money….its called a PSL!

    ..and at least it has some value!!!!!!

  186. golonger says: Jan 2, 2012 1:39 AM

    “I would sell everything I own for this team and that’s what it’s about. ”

    Than sorry….you are a total buffoon!!!!

  187. johnnyb216 says: Jan 2, 2012 11:57 AM

    Goloser obviously lost everybody’s attention on the other thread.

  188. poky4340 says: Jan 2, 2012 1:32 PM

    I guess I shouldn’t be surprised with all the jealous responses. Who really wants some ass billionaire having a say in your favorite team? A team with a board, no direct owner is proving to be more consistent than 90% of the NFL. So, “donating” to your team seems to me to be a perfectly sensible way to show our pride. Ask Jerry Jones if he gives a care about his fans, and do you really believe his plastic face answer? How about Daniel Snyder building his own little fantasy over the hill teams? That has worked out great! Packers had 2-3 down years since the resurection in the early 90’s. Can you say that about more than 2-3 other teams. Shut up, leave the little town that could alone. The big city teams are just that, BIG! big market shouldn’t have to care how the GREEN BAY WISCONSIN market funds its team. You can supposedly get better support from huge populations? I am sure you big city wannabes can come up with a way to get your team money? Oh, your fans are fair weather fans, forgot that one! Again, shut your traps,
    the Packers and Bears started the NFL. Seeing that the Bears are in Chicago, they are doing ok, but the Pack seemed to find ways to survive and thrive in tiny little 100,000 population Greenbay. Be glad for them!

  189. golonger says: Jan 2, 2012 2:05 PM

    johnnyb216 – do the world a favor and drive off a bridge!

  190. mb1265 says: Jan 2, 2012 2:42 PM

    Hi golonger !!!

    It’s great to see you on this thread too little buddy!

    You’re mentioning your PSL again….what team is it for? What’s the chances of your team making the SuperBowl, or don’t you have the guts to tell me?

    Come on…you can talk about your team too. I know it’s tough to compare that team to the Packers, but have some faith little fella!!!

  191. golonger says: Jan 3, 2012 2:00 AM

    poky4340 – LOL…who do you think is jealous in here…..jealous of paying $275 for a piece of useless toilet paper….LOL….jealous of what?

    It is obviously the Packer fans are the jealous ones… in a general sense. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t have to always spout off how great their organization is. If you think the Packers organization is really any different than any other organization, you are kidding yourself. The difference is in semantics only. Corporations like Wal-Mart and Exxon have boards too….do you not think what they care about most is making money???

    I have never seen a bigger bunch of sad, naive people as Packer fans. If for some reason people started to not go to Packers games, and they got a better deal somewhere else…do you not think they would and could move?

    LOL…stop kidding yourselves….the NFL is a money-making business….the Packers being 1/32 of the money-making entity….get real…and a clue!!!!!

  192. johnnyb216 says: Jan 3, 2012 9:24 AM

    It looks as though my assessment was right on the money. Just like the assessment I made 5 days ago about your mental status.

  193. ottograham says: Jan 3, 2012 3:01 PM

    Idk, in this case kudos to Green Bay organization for capitalizing on their dominance right now. Sorry to Packers fans who spent their money on this. I mean if they wanted a donation for $250.00 would you still have given it? Oh, you get a nice piece of paper with your name on it… cool.

    you guys got played. cheeseheads.

  194. pwoeckener says: Jan 4, 2012 12:54 PM

    Other teams have done similar creative things to generate revenue. The Miami Dolphins have added various “celebrity owners” with a nominal % stake in the franchise. It’s good for a press release, and everytime Gloria Estefan or JLo give a presser, there is always the potential for the Dolphins being mentioned in the conversation. But I think it’s fair to say that neither JLo, or Gloria will be telling us who the next starting quarterback for the Dolphins will be. It’s a glorified ownership stake, that honestly amounts to the exact same thing going on in Green Bay, albeit without the certificate. Gloria can go around telling everyone she owns the Dolphins, and ultimately she has about as much say in the operation of the club as you or I do.

    What’s going on in Green Bay is what is known as free market capitalism. The Packers have offered a product for purchase, which they openly admit has ZERO value. But the value is in the eyes of those that purchase the product. If people think a certificate that has your name on it and says you are an owner of the Green Bay Packers is worth $275, then it’s worth $275. But only the laws of supply and demand dictate the value of said certificate. If no one bought the certificate, then it wouldn’t be worth $275, and the Packers would have to rethink the product to get to a point where it sold enough to meet their needs.

    Any club can do something similar to this. They just have to be like the Miami Dolphins, can come up with creative ways to market their franchise that meet the needs of their individual franchise. Every franchise is unique in it’s own way. Each franchise should pursue whatever revenue earning gimmick they wish, that is unique to it’s own brand. It’s out there, based on the intrinsic value of each NFL franchise. Ownership of each franchise just has to find out what works for their particular brand and then go with it.

  195. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Jan 6, 2012 10:11 AM

    “The Lambeau expansion project is expected to have a significant economic impact on the Brown County area. Team officials estimate that the project will employ as many as 1,600 workers over the next two years, resulting in an estimated $70 million or more in wages.”

    This is where the money for my stock purchase went.

  196. bcthomp83 says: Apr 24, 2012 2:41 PM

    We knew what we were buying when we bought the shares. We all read the fine print that said that it is basically worthless besides getting an invitation to the annual shareholders meeting ever year. But we didn’t buy it for the little piece of paper, or for the meeting. We love our Packers and so we gave our money to help with the expansion of Lambeau Field. It our way of saying that we love our team and we are proud to be Cheeseheads! GO PACK GO!

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