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Defensive player of the year could come down to Sunday night

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With Aaron Rodgers moving toward the league MVP award and Drew Brees penciled in for offensive player of the year, things get a little more dicey when trying to discern the defensive player of the year.

The outcome of the 50-person Associated Press vote typically hinges on a vague blend of statistical performance, team performance, name recognition, and reputation.  This year, 16 weeks of football have produced no clear-cut favorite.  And so the outcome will hinge on the performance of the top contenders in Week 17.

With no big-name players near the top of the league-leading interception list (seven is the high-water mark), the sackmasters will get primary consideration.  Currently, Vikings defensive end Jared Allen has 18.5, Eagles defensive end Jason Babin and Cowboys linebacker DeMarcus Ware have 18, Giants defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul has 15.5, and 49ers rookie linebacker Aldon Smith has 14.

If Allen or Babin can match or beat Michael Strahan’s all-time record of 22.5*, that guy (not to be confused with Jon Gruden’s “this guy”) will be the most likely winner of the award.  But if they fall short of the record, the recognition could fall to Ware or Pierre-Paul, based on whether the Cowboys or Giants win on Sunday night and secure the NFC East crown.

With Babin and Allen playing for non-playoff teams, a berth in the postseason could provide the final nudge for Ware or Pierre-Paul — especially since they’ll be playing in the highest-profile nationally-televised game on the eve of the casting of the ballots by the AP voters.

Pierre-Paul, drafted in 2010 as a project for a team that didn’t technically need another defensive end, has exploded down the stretch, winning the NFC defensive player of the week award twice in the last three weeks and making it to the Pro Bowl without being on the ballot.

With two sacks, Ware would become the first player with 20 or more sacks in two separate seasons.

Other candidates could come from the Ravens’ defense, which has gotten 13 sacks and a great Thanksgiving night performance from linebacker Terrell Suggs.  His votes could be diluted by nose tackle Haloti Ngata.

49ers defensive lineman Justin Smith could get serious consideration, despite not having high-end stats, given his key role in the dominance of the San Francisco defense.

Broncos linebacker Von Miller also could get votes, even though he’s more likely to contend for the defensive rookie of the year award, if Aldon Smith (14 sacks) doesn’t break Jevon Kearse’s rookie record of 15.

Regardless, this award is coming down to the final week — and possibly the final game — of regular-season action.

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76 Responses to “Defensive player of the year could come down to Sunday night”
  1. jonka says: Dec 31, 2011 10:25 AM

    JPP ftw.

  2. rugdaniels says: Dec 31, 2011 10:26 AM

    Babin doesn’t deserve it, he guns for the QB every down and if the offense runs at him he’s useless. The other guys mentioned are multi-demensional players, Babins a one-trick pony.

  3. jamaltimore says: Dec 31, 2011 10:27 AM

    Tsizzle from Ball SO Hard University is a game changer on a defense with 4losses. He dominates in big games like in cincy tomorrow so there will be no choice but to name him the DPOY. Ngata has slowed midway through the year with injuries and while still good no where near the impact player Suggs has been to the Ravens in the GAMES that matter most!

    Suggs is the Best player of a defensive unit that currently has 2 and probably 3 HOF’ers already on it.

    BLACK AND PURPLE!

  4. commandercornpone says: Dec 31, 2011 10:27 AM

    what about dummykong suh? he only played in 14 games, and his video went viral.

  5. ravensfan996 says: Dec 31, 2011 10:28 AM

    I have stopped caring about these popularity contest! In a year in which he misses the first 6 games of the season, Ed Reed still led the league in interceptions, and yet he still doesn’t get it, that right there showed me it wasn’t about what you do on field, so it really doesn’t matter, does it???

  6. ballsooharduniversity says: Dec 31, 2011 10:29 AM

    i can only say one thing to this article…. ballsoharduniversity

  7. kinggeorge96 says: Dec 31, 2011 10:29 AM

    Who’s down with JPP?

  8. packerfan1000 says: Dec 31, 2011 10:31 AM

    With no big-name players near the top of the league-leading interception list (seven is the high-water mark),

    ———————-

    That no name player with 7 picks is Charles Woodson. (Not saying he played at an MVP level this year – he didn’t. But still…)

  9. gcsuk says: Dec 31, 2011 10:34 AM

    I would love to see JPP get the award, but I can say that I would have no problem with Ware getting it. Guy has been a class act for all his years in the NFL, and he is one of the few guys on the Cowboys I respect (I’m a Giants fan).

    Let Ware get the award, and let the Giants get the win.

  10. anarchopurplism says: Dec 31, 2011 10:40 AM

    JA69 has had a great season, but Pierre-Paul has made a HUGE difference in terms of game-winning plays.

  11. nedfrog says: Dec 31, 2011 10:40 AM

    Kearse’s record is 14.5

  12. jimmysimpson55 says: Dec 31, 2011 10:43 AM

    I like Jared Allen and even though he gets a lot of sacks, he does not dominate an offensive line. He get slippery, but gets pushed around a lot.

  13. roastbeefsandwich says: Dec 31, 2011 10:44 AM

    The sack count is nice, but shouldn’t overall effect on the defense be the most important?

    Jared Allen has a ton of sacks, but how many of those pushed the team into the W column? Same with D Ware.

    JPP has come huge in the clutch a couple of times this season that has ultimately kept the team alive for the playoffs. Hell, that’s how Manning won his last MVP award in 09, where he wasn’t even the top rated passer.

  14. str8up12 says: Dec 31, 2011 10:45 AM

    What about Vince? He’s caught a couple of hams, recovered a ham in the endzone and played about 80% of the defensive snaps. Who else in the league carried an entire defense all year?

  15. nineroutsider says: Dec 31, 2011 10:50 AM

    Defensive Player of the Year should go to a guy who helps his defense in every way, not just sacks. Babin, Allen? Those defensive units suck as a whole. Babin gets pushed around in the running game. The Giants and Boys aren’t overly impressive either although Ware is a beast.

    Before LYAO, watch some highlights of Justin Smith, every play all game, his motor is running. He is seemingly involved in every play in some way. He brings heat and stuffs the run; teams want no part of him. He isn’t the flashy choice, he’s just the right choice.

    He won’t get it, but he deserves it the most. Grunts never get love!

  16. groess says: Dec 31, 2011 10:50 AM

    Steeler fan here, and as much as it pains me, my vote would go to Terrell Suggs. He might need a big game Sunday though to gain ground on players on more popular teams (Ware, Pierre Paul) and put him over the edge.

  17. bluewinger says: Dec 31, 2011 10:52 AM

    How does Jason Pierre-Paul not make it on the ballot?

  18. derossi10 says: Dec 31, 2011 10:52 AM

    If the Cowboys win and Demarcus Ware plays a great game I believe he deserves it. Same with Pierre-Paul if the Giants win.

    By the way,

    Aldon Smith > Von Miller

  19. mindfulrob says: Dec 31, 2011 10:58 AM

    Easy call. Should be the leading tackler in the league, since tackling IS what defense is based on. And who is the leading tackler? Oh, wait, that isn’t political enough for the moron media dorks is it?

  20. heartlessjersey says: Dec 31, 2011 10:59 AM

    Why isnt Revis even in consideration? This year is easily as good if not better when he was runner up in 2009.

  21. warrenmoon says: Dec 31, 2011 11:02 AM

    Give it to Tom Brady, he’s the teams only line of defense. If he doesn’t put up 3o+ a game that team would have been the Colts

  22. bluefan204 says: Dec 31, 2011 11:04 AM

    It would be truly pathetic if the DPOY was chosen because of sacks. It’s such an overrated stat. Babin shouldn’t even be in the conversation, especially since he’s a one trick pony who is useless against the run, and has a fraction of the tackles that the other contenders for the award have. Pierre-Paul, Ware, Allen, and Smith should be the only 4 in consideration, as they are the only ones who have earned the recognition.

  23. dlmcc1010 says: Dec 31, 2011 11:22 AM

    Tough one. JPP has been a monster down the stretch, but I dont know if you can call him Defensive Player of the Year based on only a few games.

    I would like to see it go to someone from the 49ers. Im not a fan. But they have been consistently great all year on D. giving it to Allen would be kind of lousy since that unit is awful

  24. lbhtx says: Dec 31, 2011 11:22 AM

    I don’t see anything about Brian Cushing

  25. pallidrone says: Dec 31, 2011 11:23 AM

    mindfulrob says: Dec 31, 2011 10:58 AM

    Easy call. Should be the leading tackler in the league, since tackling IS what defense is based on. And who is the leading tackler? Oh, wait, that isn’t political enough for the moron media dorks is it?

    ————————————————————

    Except tackles are not an ‘officially’ kept stat and is maintained by the clubs themselves.

    They are rarely accurate.

  26. sunlion333 says: Dec 31, 2011 11:25 AM

    JPP = 81 tackles 61 solo 2 forced fumbles 6 passes defensed 8 stuffs. That’s production without even being the starter for much of the year with limited snaps early on.

    No other single player in the league has been an all around equal to this kid. Give credit where credit is due, regardless of your inclination as a fan. He deserves it.

  27. prettytonyt says: Dec 31, 2011 11:25 AM

    why is it always sack monsters that are front runners? lots of DTs, CBs, ILBs have bigger impacts than flashy sack #s

  28. ceadderman says: Dec 31, 2011 11:30 AM

    It’s gonna be All Day’s record after the 9ers play the Rams.

    Justin Smith should get the Defensive Player honor. How many Down Linemen go after the QB and then motor 15 yards to get the strip from McCoy?

    Only one guy that I know of. Justin Smith had a blown 502 installed in his a$$ during the offseason. That guy is a straight up Defensive Freak.

    3 plays this season were game changers in different games. How many players named can say that?

    9ers 4 Life!

  29. eddddddd says: Dec 31, 2011 11:33 AM

    Love the asterisk.

  30. speedlimit41 says: Dec 31, 2011 11:33 AM

    Ware unless they give to Tebow…..hehehe

  31. skippynj says: Dec 31, 2011 11:33 AM

    Lots of giants fans posting here for JPP-you should be ashamed to put anyone on your team down for def. player of the year, or any other award for that matter.

  32. fngs1 says: Dec 31, 2011 11:38 AM

    No ofense to Vikings fan, but J.Allen should get it due to how bad of a team he is on. to get 18.5 sacks on a team with hardly any Int’s is huge. Then you have the reverse on my Pack team with about 30 int’s, and not dominant sack person. Just saying if the VIKES had better DB’s that could cover Allen probley would have more sacks.

  33. eigglesnosuperbowls says: Dec 31, 2011 11:50 AM

    To think this fraud babin may break one of the greatest bull rushers of all time record, Reggie White is horrible ! Babin starts his rush from the side lines and Reggie went right through you with the hump move ! REGGIE REGGIE REGGIE ! Reggie would be quite proud of JPP !

  34. 13fitzj says: Dec 31, 2011 11:52 AM

    @Heartlessjersey
    you’re an idiot. I’m a jets fan and I can honestly say that revis in no way deserves the award this year. He’s had several mediocre to below average games, including giving up 8 catches and a score to Stevie Johnson. And the jets defense was atrocious this year. The award should go to smith but I’d imagine they give it to whoever wins Sunday night.

  35. johntonioholmes says: Dec 31, 2011 12:14 PM

    Suggs has like 3 four-sack games and then he’s done nothing the rest of the season, though.

  36. johntonioholmes says: Dec 31, 2011 12:22 PM

    ravensfan996

    Reed led the league in interceptions last year, but he got torched on a few long balls.

    Their defense allowed 52 pass plays of 20 yards or more last season.

    That means Reed either plays way too deep or he was out of position on a few of those plays.

    There’s more to being DPOY than guessing right on 8 plays a season.

    Granted, I don’t really think Polamalu should have won it last year. James Harrison was more deserving, but he got shafted because the media didn’t want to see him get it.

  37. cowboyshater says: Dec 31, 2011 12:30 PM

    Justin Smith hands down. Best all around defensive player on your list.

  38. 303bengalguy says: Dec 31, 2011 12:43 PM

    Von Miller got benched earlier this season… Aldon Smith, not so much…

    However, Miller came back from said benching and went into beast mode. We all know that Tebow didn’t make that win streak, the defense (led by Miller’s sacks, some Dumervil mixed in there and Dawkins and Champ in the secondary) is what really won Denver those 6 games in a row… so a case could be made for Von for ROY, whereas, I wonder what Aldon Smith would have registered had he not had a guy like Justin Smith next to him on that line.

  39. myeaglescantwin says: Dec 31, 2011 12:45 PM

    @ eigglesnosuperbowls

    so ahhh,, Mike Strahan set the all time sack record.

    thanks for showing how much you dont know.. but please, continue to be oppinionated and wrong. the world needs people like that.

  40. waxedagain says: Dec 31, 2011 12:48 PM

    I wonder if the league will drug test the awards candidates so as to avoid the embarrassment of another suspended award winner.

  41. redlobster1984 says: Dec 31, 2011 1:25 PM

    Suggs hands down

    64 tackles, 13 sacks, 2 ints and 6 ff

    with no player opposite to help rush the passer.

    JPP is good but plays on a stacked dline.

    Babin gets sacks or gets burned on every other play.

    Ware is a close second

    I enjoy watching Allen play but he gets swallowed up often.

  42. pack13queens0 says: Dec 31, 2011 1:41 PM

    Anybody but Jared Allen

  43. sunlion333 says: Dec 31, 2011 1:59 PM

    OK, lets talk stats and keep the argument for the players production not his teams records.

    Suggs: 64 tackles 46 solo 13 sacks 6ff 2 ints 5 passes defensed and 10 stuffs

    J. Smith: 55 tackles 42 solo 6.5 sacks 3 ff 2 passes def. 2 stuffs

    Ware: 53 tackles 45 solo 18 sacks 2 ff 2 pd 6 stuffs

    Babin: 38 tackles 34 solo 18 sacks 3 ff 2pd 2 stuffs

    JPP: 81 tackles 61 solo 15.5 sacks 2ff 6 pd 8 stuffs
    + 1 blocked field goal and sprinting the entire field to stop a sure touchdown.

    Little help from the rest of a poorly performing defense and only starting sporadically while NY coddled Osi.

    This guy was a write in for the pro bowl by players and coaches and I’d bet that if the players could vote, JPP would win DPOY

  44. gcsuk says: Dec 31, 2011 2:07 PM

    skippynj says:
    Dec 31, 2011 11:33 AM
    Lots of giants fans posting here for JPP-you should be ashamed to put anyone on your team down for def. player of the year, or any other award for that matter.
    ——————————————————
    Yeah, that makes lots of sense, “skippy”. Giants fans should be ashamed to stump for the young guy on the team who has absolutely taken over was the heart of this defense and pretty much single-handedly kept them in playoff contention. Not to mention, he seems to be a VERY grounded and humble “team player”, not like half the guys in the league that ONLY care about their stats.

    Timely tackles, sacks, forced fumbles, a non-stop motor, and, oh yeah, BLOCKING the game-tying FG against Dallas.

    Yeah, Giants fans should be ashamed of themselves.

  45. deuce2222 says: Dec 31, 2011 2:09 PM

    I don’t think the asterisk was necessary. Are you going to put an asterisk next to Drew Brees’ name because he broke Marinos record in an era where DB’s have to let the receiver catch the ball and are not allowed to hit them afterward?

    Strahan beat the sack record. It’s like being pregnant. Either you are or you’re not.

    Now bring the grief!……

  46. gcsuk says: Dec 31, 2011 2:14 PM

    redlobster1984 says:
    Dec 31, 2011 1:25 PM
    Suggs hands down

    64 tackles, 13 sacks, 2 ints and 6 ff

    with no player opposite to help rush the passer.

    JPP is good but plays on a stacked dline.

    Babin gets sacks or gets burned on every other play.

    Ware is a close second

    I enjoy watching Allen play but he gets swallowed up often.
    ——————————————————–
    Have to disagree that “JPP plays on a stacked D-Line”. Sure, the Giants have Tuck and Osi on the team, but both players have been shells of their “former selves” this year. Osi has missed 7 games, and Tuck has missed 4 and death with nagging injuries all year long. Dave Tollefson has played at DE more this season than EITHER of the two.

    JPP has more tackles (81) than those 3 combined (79).

    JPP has literally been the heart and soul of that defense, and kept that team in games when other areas of the defense has broken down. Tuck will be the first one to tell anyone that JPP is the real Defensive Captain for the Giants this year.

  47. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 31, 2011 2:26 PM

    It’s Pierre-Paul’s. PERIOD. 81 tackles (on his way to 90), as a DEFENSIVE END. And that’s not on some, “they’re on the field all the time, that’s why”, tripe. He runs plays down, plays the run stoutly, and obviously gets after the QB.

    THE OCTOPUS.

    Ware has disappeared for entire games a couple of times this year and is too easily neutralized when he’s not with his hand(s) down on the line.

    Suggs has had a great season, but it doesn’t usurp JPP. Babin and Aldon Smith are one-trick ponies. JPP has more tackles than both COMBINED.

    The only question is Jared Allen, and surely his team being out of contention for two months now has to play a factor. JPP has carried the Giants’ defense in several games when Tuck was gimpy, Osi was out and other guys FLAT. OUT. QUIT.

  48. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 31, 2011 2:27 PM

    redlobster1984 says:
    Dec 31, 2011 1:25 PM
    Suggs hands down

    64 tackles, 13 sacks, 2 ints and 6 ff

    with no player opposite to help rush the passer.

    JPP is good but plays on a stacked dline.
    ————-

    JPP gets doubled a lot also. Obviously you do not watch the Giants.

  49. famoutomyself says: Dec 31, 2011 2:28 PM

    The Jets’ Joe Klecko had two 20 sack seasons.

  50. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 31, 2011 2:32 PM

    skippynj says:
    Dec 31, 2011 11:33 AM
    Lots of giants fans posting here for JPP-you should be ashamed to put anyone on your team down for def. player of the year, or any other award for that matter.
    ————–

    Bitter Jets fan? tsk tsk tsk

    The Giants have a plethora of INDIVIDUAL star players. The problem has been with Fewell putting it all together into a cohesive unit. Despite the statistical rankings overall, don’t get it twisted, JPP, Webster, Phillips and Rolle have had outstanding seasons from an individual standpoint.

    Of course everyone is going to look bad collectively when MORE THAN HALF of the starting/major contributors on defense are on IR or have missed at least 4-5 games this year.

  51. nyfootballgiants says: Dec 31, 2011 2:50 PM

    I am so confused about why niner fans are so blind.

    Justin Smith – 55 tackles, 6.5 sacks

    JPP – 81 tackles, 15.5 sacks

    Why is there any consideration for Justin Smith? The numbers aren’t even close.

  52. bobhk says: Dec 31, 2011 3:13 PM

    303bengalguy says:
    Dec 31, 2011 12:43 PM
    Von Miller got benched earlier this season… Aldon Smith, not so much…

    However, Miller came back from said benching and went into beast mode. We all know that Tebow didn’t make that win streak, the defense (led by Miller’s sacks, some Dumervil mixed in there and Dawkins and Champ in the secondary) is what really won Denver those 6 games in a row… so a case could be made for Von for ROY, whereas, I wonder what Aldon Smith would have registered had he not had a guy like Justin Smith next to him on that line.
    ———
    Yeah, Aldon Smith has Justin next to him, but Von Miller has Dumervil on the other side (with 9.5 sacks) to take attention. I say it’s even….
    I think JPP has had a better season than Aldon or Miller but they are rookies. As such they should be more in consideration for DROY. DPOY would be harder with guys like Allen and Ware.

  53. skippynj says: Dec 31, 2011 3:26 PM

    Mr.wright212

    Sorry to disappoint but I’m not a jets fan. My team kicked your team’s collective behinds by 25 pts. this year.

    gcsucks

    Typical giants fan. You dopes think you invented football and that everything your team does smells springtime fresh. I was wrong to suggest you feel ashamed because everyone knows giants fans are incapable of shame. Arrogant franchise, arrogant fans going nowhere this year.

    ps-Great job letting Lombardi and Landry leave.

  54. godsleftsock says: Dec 31, 2011 3:47 PM

    @nyfootballgiants

    Just gonna explain some things about smith. He is constantly doubled on every single play and still makes amazing game changing plays. Such as the strip of maclin that turned the whole team around and the blocked pass to beat your own giants on the last 4th down. He may not get the stats but everything he does makes the entire defense better as a whole. It’s not all about stats. Not to mention he’s the driving force of arguably the best defensive unit this year.

    Now I don’t know if that’s enough for dpoy because Pierre-Paul is beasting it up, but just thought I’d enlighten you.

  55. gcsuk says: Dec 31, 2011 4:13 PM

    skippynj says:
    Dec 31, 2011 3:26 PM

    gcsucks
    —————————————————-

    P.S. the handle is “gcsuk”. Glad to see that you can carry on a debate like an adult, and don’t have to resort to name-calling.

  56. MossMoon2Packers says: Dec 31, 2011 4:26 PM

    As a Vikings fan, I’m probably slightly biased, but the DPOY should go to Jared Allen. He’s performed at an elite level while drawing consistent double-teams (because the other Vikings D-linemen have been average at best) and with a terribly porous Vikings pass-D allowing opposing QBs to throw early to open WRs. Unfortunately, the Vikings have stunk it up this year, and their performance will unjustly affect Allen’s chances of winning the award.

  57. gcsuk says: Dec 31, 2011 4:49 PM

    godsleftsock says:
    Dec 31, 2011 3:47 PM
    @nyfootballgiants

    Just gonna explain some things about smith. He is constantly doubled on every single play and still makes amazing game changing plays. Such as the strip of maclin that turned the whole team around and the blocked pass to beat your own giants on the last 4th down. He may not get the stats but everything he does makes the entire defense better as a whole. It’s not all about stats. Not to mention he’s the driving force of arguably the best defensive unit this year.

    Now I don’t know if that’s enough for dpoy because Pierre-Paul is beasting it up, but just thought I’d enlighten you.
    ———————————————————
    You know what I can appreciate about this the most? We may have differing points of view, but at least we can discuss it rationally like adults. Chances are we will not agree in the end, but I can appreciate the fact that you presented it as a true football fan. No screaming, no ranting, no name-calling. Thanks for presenting your point (with examples, no less) so eloquently.

  58. jsalis13 says: Dec 31, 2011 4:55 PM

    Suggs plays the run much better than any defenders on the sack master list, and has nearly the same amount of pressures as they do, add in forced fumbles and he should be leading the voting with only Von Miller also in consideration

  59. wickedmadd says: Dec 31, 2011 5:04 PM

    Justin Smith, hands down. Cowboy is everywhere all the time.

  60. steelersownyou says: Dec 31, 2011 5:09 PM

    Ed reed is a pimple on t polamalu’s A$$. Reed can’t do what troy can. But troy can do everything reed can. Nuff said! When I see reed soar over the o-line & savk the QB then i’ll believe!

  61. rabidbillsfan says: Dec 31, 2011 5:13 PM

    Whoever said Sack #’s are overrated is a complete idiot. Sacks are about the only stats that are all about effort. Donte Whitner averaged almost 90 tackles a season for the Bills, almsot all of those were after 6-10 yard gains, not very effective. Sure, there are coverage sacks, but you will probably only get about 3-5/ team, a season. Interceptions are overrated as well. Picks are still an important stat, but about 50% of picks are off of tipped passes and the another 40% of those are just being in the right place at the right time, few picks are a result of skill and guessing right. Also, you can rotate corners through out a game and it doesn’t affect a defense like rotating Lineman. DL are the key to any defense. Occupying blockers for the LB, or putting pressure on the QB for the DB’s, thats why DL are almost always the front runners for DPOY along with Rush OLB. Sure you will get a Ray Lewis, Troy Polamalu, Ed Reed, Darelle Revis in there, but those are exceptions not the rule.

  62. themackstrong says: Dec 31, 2011 5:41 PM

    Its gotta be someone from the 49ers. That team won nearly every game off defense alone. No rushing TD’s all year up until last last game, no team has done since the 30’s. They are a division rival but Giants and Cowboys D’s got owned at times this year. Justin Smith gets my vote.

  63. tedmurph says: Dec 31, 2011 6:20 PM

    It’s not all about sacks with a DE, they have responsibilities against the run as well. IMO, out of all the sackmasters mentioned, Ware is by far the most complete player and deserves the award. Most of the others, teams just run right at them, esp. Suggs.

  64. contra74 says: Dec 31, 2011 6:33 PM

    pack13queens0 says:
    Dec 31, 2011 1:41 PM
    Anybody but Jared Allen
    ———
    Why? Oh yea, youre a Packer homer. If one of your guys cant get it then no one else deserves it right?

  65. discosucs2005 says: Dec 31, 2011 6:43 PM

    I hate these awards.

    Guys like Justin Smith can’t win because they don’t have the stats.

    Guys like Drew Brees can’t win because they don’t have the story.

    And there is a whole group of guys that wont even get the consideration because their teams don’t get coverage (and it’s not just guys who play on bad teams. Babin plays for a bad team, and he will get plenty of consideration.)

    Anyone who puts any stock into these awards is a moron. If you have a favorite player on your team that isn’t going to be considered, just be satisfied that he plays for your team, or be bitter and frustrated by the unfairness of these awards.

  66. tedmurph says: Dec 31, 2011 6:53 PM

    Meant except Suggs, he should be 2nd.

  67. TIM says: Dec 31, 2011 7:16 PM

    Bengalguy:
    Aldon Smith has more sacks than Von Miller,with about half as many snaps. It’s not even close for who SHOULD be defensive rookie of the year,it’s Smith by a landslide,if it’s fair (unlike the pro bowl vote,that didn’t even have Smith on the ballot because he was not an official starter and played mostly on passing downs.).

  68. gb4mn0 says: Dec 31, 2011 7:46 PM

    contra74 says:
    Dec 31, 2011 6:33 PM
    pack13queens0 says:
    Dec 31, 2011 1:41 PM
    Anybody but Jared Allen
    ———
    Why? Oh yea, youre a Packer homer. If one of your guys cant get it then no one else deserves it right?

    ————————————————-
    I don’t know how anyone other than a thin skinned purple twit could read into “anybody but Jared Allen” and think it means anything else but that?

  69. mdp3646 says: Dec 31, 2011 8:39 PM

    Jared Allen. Posted great numbers with no help. Offense only needed to control him and could not. Can others say did it alone?

  70. teamnorsecore says: Dec 31, 2011 9:09 PM

    gb4mn0 says:
    Dec 31, 2011 7:46 PM
    contra74 says:
    Dec 31, 2011 6:33 PM
    pack13queens0 says:
    Dec 31, 2011 1:41 PM
    Anybody but Jared Allen
    ———
    Why? Oh yea, youre a Packer homer. If one of your guys cant get it then no one else deserves it right?

    ————————————————-
    I don’t know how anyone other than a thin skinned purple twit could read into “anybody but Jared Allen” and think it means anything else but that?
    ……….
    gb4gb0……seriously? You and pack13queens0 (I actually think you are the same person…and that is how pathetic you are) post negatively on EVERY…..SINGLE…..VIKINGS……BLOG. You two bash the Vikings, their fans, players and the State Of Minnesota EVERY DAY on here. You must be a bigger idiot than we all thought if you think no one knows you and pack13queens0’s(same person) game. You are a joke of a football fan and probably a joke of a human being. Get a life and worry about your own team that you think you are a member of for some reason.

  71. gb4mn0 says: Dec 31, 2011 9:53 PM

    teamnorsecore says:
    Dec 31, 2011 9:09 PM

    Not that it matters but pack13quenns0 and I aren’t the same poster but it’s easy to see both of us have the same agenda and you fell into our trap again. In my post I referred to a “thin skinned purple twit” and right on cue you come along and leave a lengthy, hate filled rant which made a complete fool out of yourself while proving my point. Thank you.

  72. stercuilus65 says: Dec 31, 2011 10:00 PM

    Lol at all the fools obsession with the “tackles” stat. It’s not official, it’s scored by home teams with an agenda for pushing their stars.
    Spare me from quoting “tackles”.

  73. thetobygrizwold says: Dec 31, 2011 10:10 PM

    The way I see it, it comes down to Suggs and JPP at this point. Let’s compare.

    Suggs – 64 tackles, 13 sacks, 2 ints, and 6 ff

    JPP – 81 tackles, 15.5 sacks, 0 ints, and 2 ff

    The glaring difference to me is the playmaking. Two ints to none, six ff to two.

    That’s the kind of guy you want when the game is on the line, and no one is on their game like Suggs when the game is on the line.

    JPP may have more tackles, other guys may have more sacks, but no one changes a game like Suggs has this year versus the run and pass.

  74. sixjak says: Dec 31, 2011 10:30 PM

    303bengalguy says:
    Dec 31, 2011 12:43 PM
    Von Miller got benched earlier this season… Aldon Smith, not so much…

    However, Miller came back from said benching and went into beast mode. We all know that Tebow didn’t make that win streak, the defense (led by Miller’s sacks, some Dumervil mixed in there and Dawkins and Champ in the secondary) is what really won Denver those 6 games in a row… so a case could be made for Von for ROY, whereas, I wonder what Aldon Smith would have registered had he not had a guy like Justin Smith next to him on that line.

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    Yes I see. I wonder how Aldon Smith’s numbers would be if he played every down all year long. 14 sacks in situational play? Can you name anyone else who has done that? He plays the Rams tomorrow. He’s one sack away from setting the rookie sack record. I bet he sets a new record. Your attempt to diminish Aldon’s play this season has “fail” written all over it. Aldon Smith for DROY.

  75. teamnorsecore says: Dec 31, 2011 11:39 PM

    gb4mn0 says:
    Dec 31, 2011 9:53 PM
    teamnorsecore says:
    Dec 31, 2011 9:09 PM

    Not that it matters but pack13quenns0 and I aren’t the same poster but it’s easy to see both of us have the same agenda and you fell into our trap again. In my post I referred to a “thin skinned purple twit” and right on cue you come along and leave a lengthy, hate filled rant which made a complete fool out of yourself while proving my point. Thank you.
    …….
    Sure you are not the same poster……SURE!! You two geniouses have the same agenda alright…..neither of you know football, the NFL or anything relevant, but you are both good at posting negative, opinionated shots directed towards the Vikings everyday. That is ALL you are good for…..spewing your little negative shots towards the Vikings, that only YOU think are witty. I will fall into you “trap” everytime on here…..if that is what you are going to call it. I am going to follow you dumb little comments on here every chance I get. Bring something relevant to the table as fan guy……everyone on here knows you have a deep disdain for the Vikings, congratulations. I have a deep disdain for your favorite team too, I have since I was a little kid and I always will……but I don’t come on here and constantly bash them……and look like a fool…..you are good at doing that though, so keep it up slick.

  76. baronvonmonocle says: Jan 1, 2012 10:57 AM

    myeaglescantwin says:Dec 31, 2011 12:45 PM

    @ eigglesnosuperbowls

    so ahhh,, Mike Strahan set the all time sack record.

    thanks for showing how much you dont know.. but please, continue to be oppinionated and wrong. the world needs people like that
    ————————————————-

    I assume that he meant the eagles’ record. At least I hope so.

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