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Shurmur on RG3: “Good players fit in every offense”

Griffin III of Baylor University looks for a receiver during NCAA football game against Huskies in San Antonio Reuters

The Browns are headed for a top-five pick in the draft, which already has Browns fans salivating over the possibility of drafting Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III.

Griffin hasn’t declared for the draft yet, but he’s expected to in the coming weeks.

Browns coach Pat Shurmur, like Mike Shanahan, has already done some scouting.

“I’ve watched [Griffin],” Shurmur said this week via the Akron Beacon-Journal. “[He’s a] tremendous talent, good player.”

Asked if Griffin could fit into a West Coast offense, Shurmur was definitive.

“Good players fit in every offense,” he said.

The Browns drafted Baylor’s teammate Phil Taylor in the first round this year. Taylor says Griffin has more quarterbacking skills than people realize.

“He’s the type of athlete that could fit into any system,” Taylor said. “He can run, he can pass. He can take snaps under the center, shotgun; whatever you need, he can do. . . .  They said the same thing about Cam — ‘Is he gonna adapt to the system?’ And he’s doing great right now with Carolina.”

Newton and Griffin have similarities, but they are still different style players. That won’t stop the inevitable and endless comparisons in the months to come.

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44 Responses to “Shurmur on RG3: “Good players fit in every offense””
  1. goinghamonit128 says: Dec 31, 2011 11:49 AM

    Cleveland doesn’t need another Seneca Wallace. HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!!!!

  2. thereisalwaysnextyear says: Dec 31, 2011 11:50 AM

    Size being the biggest difference, but anyone who saw RG3 throw that pass all the way to the other side of the field in the corner of the endzone for the win (had to have been 50 yards plus in the air on a rope) knows this guy has the arm. He’s extremely accurate. Thru the first month of the season he had more TD’s than incompletions. Read that again.
    He’s got the smarts, the running ability and while he’s not Cam’s size, he’s plenty big. This guy is a track champion in the 400. Military parents. PLEASE Snyder do something smart for a change and get this kid no matter what you have to do.

  3. metalhead65 says: Dec 31, 2011 11:50 AM

    I am sure as great a player he is then he will be given the same treatment Tebow gets right? you know the one where he must be perfect on every play or he is a bust. so no learning or development time for him or any other qb drafted in the first round,they start first week and must win and show that they were worth being picked that high or they are a bust.

  4. packersareandwillalwaysbebetterthanthebears says: Dec 31, 2011 11:54 AM

    If the Rams get the first pick, my money is on the Browns to trade up to get Luck. Thanks to Atlanta.

  5. dawsonleery says: Dec 31, 2011 11:59 AM

    I don’t like RG3 on the Browns. Its not a good fit for him. Playing against the Ravens, Steelers and Bengals, he won’t last. He’ll get crushed.

  6. cannonballdookie says: Dec 31, 2011 12:00 PM

    It would be very smart for Cleveland to draft this guy. McCoy is the kind of QB who you know what you’re getting with him. He has a few moments, but overall looks like a solid backup rather than a starter. Just doesn’t have the ability.

    Keep Wallace around to teach this kid and great things can happen. He seems to have a great work ethic and drive to go along with his talent, about time they go after someone to give big play ability to their offense.

  7. patriotsadw says: Dec 31, 2011 12:12 PM

    One game against a crappy college defense and they want to crown him.

  8. pats1995 says: Dec 31, 2011 12:13 PM

    There are a few things guaranteed every year in the draft.
    1. Speculation of the Browns taking a QB
    2. The Patriots will not draft a pass rusher in the 1st round, no matter how many times McShay and Kiper “project” them to

  9. trbowman says: Dec 31, 2011 12:16 PM

    Translation – No, he doesn’t fit our offense.

  10. trbowman says: Dec 31, 2011 12:23 PM

    “Thru the first month of the season he had more TD’s than incompletions.”

    He plays in a stat inflating offense. Air Raid that Graham Harrell played in with some read option on the side.

  11. arcaero says: Dec 31, 2011 12:24 PM

    IF the Browns do move up to get Luck, they better get someone for him to throw to..and a right tackle to protect him, or he will end up just like Couch, Holcomb, Garcia, Dilfer, Frye, Anderson, Quinn, Delhomme, and McCoy; SHELLSHOCKED.

  12. wewantmoretebowandfavrearticles says: Dec 31, 2011 12:25 PM

    Shurmer is wrong. Good players don’t fit in the Josh McDaniels offense so if you’re running that, you have to trade them away or keep them on the bench.

  13. AlanSaysYo says: Dec 31, 2011 12:26 PM

    Would be a shame to see the Heisman winner experience the soul-crushing trauma of playing for the Browns.

  14. 303bengalguy says: Dec 31, 2011 12:37 PM

    Way to be ‘coy’ about your intentions there Shurmur! (pun intended). I hope the Browns can land him for the sake of their fan base but touting a guy that a team in front of you might draft is downright stupid.

  15. jcd213 says: Dec 31, 2011 12:42 PM

    One accurate td pass doesn’t erase the memory of the dozen overthrows. Bust.

  16. groversrovers says: Dec 31, 2011 12:45 PM

    Da Brownies will bust any pick they have. Do us a favor and release Thomas, Hillis and Haden – in order to save what ever Erie stained careers these guys have left.

  17. oldbrowndawg says: Dec 31, 2011 12:55 PM

    If the Browns do go after him, they’ll probably then re-sign Peyton Hillis at RB and go heavy into the Free Agent market for a top flight WR to pair up with their emerging dude (Greg Little). Their pick in round 2 will have to be a stud RT to help protect this guy, lest he go the way of Tim Couch and so many others in the past.

  18. dryheaveone says: Dec 31, 2011 1:02 PM

    RG3?…sounds like some kind of “Star Wars” character, I’m gettin’ an Akili Smith kind of feel about this guy. Especially if Browns draft him…..(Tim Couch where are you?)

  19. orangeflh says: Dec 31, 2011 1:05 PM

    303bengalguy says:
    Dec 31, 2011 12:37 PM]

    Way to be ‘coy’ about your intentions there Shurmur! (pun intended). I hope the Browns can land him for the sake of their fan base but touting a guy that a team in front of you might draft is downright stupid.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Yeah… cuz until they touted him, nobody ever heard of this guy. Now they’ve let the cat out of the bag. Genius. Pure genius.

  20. moolah954 says: Dec 31, 2011 1:05 PM

    Athletes go to Cleveland to die..in all sports

  21. ugk612 says: Dec 31, 2011 1:09 PM

    The key to Cleveland or Washington getting RG lll is Minnesota @ #3. It’s going to cost!

  22. cmbkns82 says: Dec 31, 2011 1:10 PM

    Comp is Vince Young without the drama. He has a hitch in his throw. Never good against NFL defenses. Before all of you give a thumbs down remember how you were salivating over VY post national championship.

  23. coop16 says: Dec 31, 2011 1:26 PM

    The article says that Browns fans are salivating over RG3? This Browns fan isn’t salivating over him, and from the comments above, it looks like a lot of others aren’t, either. We definitely need a QB, but in our Arctic conditions we need more of an Aaron Rodgers or Ben Roethlisberger type, not a half-QB, half-scatback type. Also I’m always leery of guys who had one great year in college after having done nothing previously; Akili Smith is a great example of that. So is JaMarcus Russell. How’d they work out as pros? The college QBs whose game translates well to the NFL are generally guys who have a well-established track record of success in college, not some one-year wonder playing in a gimmick offense that isn’t used in the pros.

  24. canjura says: Dec 31, 2011 2:01 PM

    @coop16: And guys like Cam Newton just made your argument completely mute.

  25. rushmatic says: Dec 31, 2011 2:03 PM

    goinghamonit128 says:
    Cleveland doesn’t need another Seneca Wallace. HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!!!!

    _____________

    Worst fanbase in the world, bar-NONE.

  26. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 31, 2011 2:20 PM

    NOT YOURS, PATTY!!!

  27. dieselfan44 says: Dec 31, 2011 2:42 PM

    Hes a skin, just not official yet…if Dan wants him none of the other teams around that pick # will have a dog in the fight…

  28. phillybeav says: Dec 31, 2011 2:46 PM

    RG3 is a great athlete but needs to become a better passer before entering the League… He needs to stay one more year.

  29. Kaz says: Dec 31, 2011 2:51 PM

    Yall trippin. Cleveland will trade out of the spot. They tend to avoid playmakers….

  30. tommyribs says: Dec 31, 2011 2:55 PM

    Robert Griffin III is a very impressive young man, and I really think he will be a tremendous NFL QB. I wish him all the luck in the world, and I look forward to watching him compete in the NFL. I think he is a competitor in the Cam Newton/Peyton Manning mold, and will do whatever it takes to be successful.

    It will be interesting to see how he and Andrew Luck, who I am also excited to see play in this league, are linked together and compete in their NFL careers. Who ever ends up drafting him will have a player that their team can be proud of.

  31. tommyribs says: Dec 31, 2011 2:58 PM

    thereisalwaysnextyear says: Dec 31, 2011 11:50 AM

    Size being the biggest difference, but anyone who saw RG3 throw that pass all the way to the other side of the field in the corner of the endzone for the win (had to have been 50 yards plus in the air on a rope) knows this guy has the arm. He’s extremely accurate. Thru the first month of the season he had more TD’s than incompletions. Read that again.
    He’s got the smarts, the running ability and while he’s not Cam’s size, he’s plenty big. This guy is a track champion in the 400. Military parents. PLEASE Snyder do something smart for a change and get this kid no matter what you have to do.
    —————————————————-

    Ya – RG 3 was worthy of that Heisman, and if Shannahan gets him and coaches him up, he would be a great fit in Shanny’s version of the West Coast Offense. Those Bootlegs and Sprints would be run at a very high level by RG 3.

    RG 3 can also through those deep and intermediate routes as well.

  32. waltdawg says: Dec 31, 2011 2:58 PM

    SKINS WILL GET THIS GUY!

  33. clesorunrun says: Dec 31, 2011 4:16 PM

    Browns fans are not salivating over him, at least i’m not. Who is he gonna throw to? all our recievers do is drop balls. I’m salivating over justin blackmon and getting Kellen Moore aka joe montana jr late in the draft. who will end up being the best qb in the draft

  34. franklamar17 says: Dec 31, 2011 5:07 PM

    As a steelers fan I don t want the browns to get him!I do think he will be a great Qb for what ever team gets him,he has mad talent and the heart to be great.He just might go before luck…

  35. yelix says: Dec 31, 2011 6:12 PM

    I really like Griffin, and for his sake, I don’t want the Browns to draft him. Every QB that gets drafted by them is a bust.

  36. trojan33sc says: Dec 31, 2011 6:35 PM

    goinghamonit128 says:Dec 31, 2011 11:49 AM

    Cleveland doesn’t need another Seneca Wallace. HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!!!!

    Do you even assess the skill sets of people like Cam or RGIII or do you immediately discount them for some reason ? You are insane as every year a dual quarterback emerges and get’s immediately slammed as to being highly questionable at the next level after having dominitated in the college ranks. Hell, Cam ran a spread offense and basically was told there was no way he could absorb a complicated NFL offense and i KNOW you were standing with that crowd !! RGIII led all college quarterbacks with passing efficiency let ALONE his legitimate Olympic speed and you immediately discount the brother. Your amazing so go ahead and keep your head in the sand and make sure to choke on Cam’s “NFL Rookie of the Year Award.” How can you compare either one of those guys to Seneca Wallace other than by the color of his skin….?? denial is a terrible thing………………..

  37. someidiotfromouthereintheprojects says: Dec 31, 2011 7:58 PM

    this kid is one intriguing prospect. there may be more activity by teams trying to get RG3 than luck bc his athleticism and the fact that luck #1 is a foregone conclusion. he will go high and could be a stud; plus he has the right brains and bloodlines. this dude may be the truth

  38. bigdawgy54 says: Dec 31, 2011 8:44 PM

    As a Browns fan of over five decades, I have to say that the football intelligence of some of our fans have gone down hill. Plus, they dream and hope and speculate by misusing facts. And, what facts they have they get locked in with tunnel vision.
    Bottom line is, the Browns DO NOT have a starting quarterback. Those that support McCoy are dreaming out their butts!
    The Browns must try to get either Luck or RG3! Both have tremendous upside. Either one would be an anchor quarterback that you could build a team around for several years.
    If the Browns stay with McCoy they will continue to whine and cry and complain. Because they will not be any better than a .500 team under McCoy’s QB leadership. The Super Bowl will continue to be a Browns Free Environment.

  39. fittytuckin says: Dec 31, 2011 9:45 PM

    He’s no Cam Newton

  40. tatum064 says: Dec 31, 2011 10:05 PM

    Browns would have a dynamic attack with Cribbs and this guy in wildcat formations. McCoy may already be damaged goods…only thing is count on the Redskins ego to forgo getting RGIII and Ryan Tannenhill….

  41. cmbkns82 says: Jan 1, 2012 12:07 AM

    @coop16: And guys like Cam Newton just made your argument completely mute.
    —————-
    Ok you’re getting carried away here. The jury is still out on Cam Newton. Stats are phenomenal for a rookie and it looks like he will be great but greatness means he will need to continually improve over time. QBs are measured by team wins and losses and 6-10 with big stats against lowly teams and during garbage time won’t mean much if the Panthers are 6-10 again next year. Coop16 is right. If you don’t have a top 5 QB the odds are heavily stacked against you winning the SuperBowl. Can you honestly say that you think RG3 is going to go toe to toe with Brady, Rodgers, Brees, and Roethlisberger (winners of 8 of the past 10 SBs)? Newton might if he improves but he is not there yet either. Almost everyone in this post thinks RG3 is going to bring the Browns or Skins back from the ashes. He might but the odds of that happening are slim and should be acknowledged as such.

  42. bigswifty74 says: Jan 1, 2012 12:53 AM

    @canjura: MOOT. A p0int is moot. Someone who can’t speak/talk is mute.
    Hahahahahappy new year!

  43. audient says: Jan 1, 2012 9:51 AM

    In typical Browns fashion, the more the coach and the front office talk up a player, the less likely they’ll actually take him. Right now, I’d measure the likelihood of the Browns taking RG3 lower now than before these comments.

    As of right now – the Browns starting QB position is up in the air. It could still be Colt though, if for no other reason than this: the Browns have so many other needs, they may draft the best players for other positions now, and address the QB situation in free agency or even in the 2013 draft. This is a multi-year project — not to rebuild, but build, the Browns — this is not a rebuild, this team hasn’t been properly built since 1999.

    C’mon, Browns, get this right.

  44. kosarbrowns says: Jan 6, 2012 6:18 PM

    As a huge Browns fan, I have a lot of ideas for improving this franchise. From coaching, to draft, to offensive style, to even uniforms. The only thing I wouldn’t change is the special teams (returner specialist- Cribbs, punter- Maynard, kicker- Dawson).

    Colt McCoy has a lot of fight but lacks the skills that would EVER make him a Brady, Vick, R-berger, etc.). He is not a leader by personality but would make for a good backup elsewhere in the league. His lack of elite skill combined with Coach Shurmurs milquetoast conservative style makes for an absolute dud of a Coach-Quarterback relationship, and it drives us fans nuts. Holmgren just turns the whole thing into a huge game of telephone on every down. Emotion driven skill leads to victories. Browns fans won’t admit this usually but I will say it: We want a hard-ass diabolical coach like a Tomlin , Cowher or Harbaugh or a fiercely competitive QB like Brady or Manning (the older one). Why are the Ravens and Steelers great? They are feared and that comes from mentality and coaching. Its 4th and 1 from the 1, the Steelers/Ravens go for it and get 6 pts. Browns will miss a FG on a bad snap. We have Hillis. No excuse. Crennel is Mangini is Shurmur. These guys are not fear inspiring. Colt McCoy makes defenses salivate. He is not an articulate speaker and you don’t want this in the huddle at a loud Heinz Field. To his defense he doesn’t have play makers but even if he did, this is an 8-8 team at BEST.

    Sorry for the rant.

    We need RG3. We don’t need Luck, we’ve never had luck, why would we start now. The Browns need Robert Griffin III. He is a great individual with solid work ethic, got his degree early and is military son. A classy QB with serious skills. I feel just by adding him, it will make Pittsburgh and Baltimore finally stop blitzing us on every down and it will open up the field for our receivers. Hillis will be a surprise and not expected. Cribbs in the wildcat occassionally. The above Steelers fan is completely correct in fearing us getting RG3.

    Next, we need to trade to get a free agent receiver. The free agent WR list looks pretty nice, we have a huge need, and we should get one of these: Colston, Meachem, Bowe, Welker, Vincent Jackson, Steve Johnson, Garcon, Manningham. Granted some will resign with their current elite teams (Patriots, Saints). Any of these guys would be a great mentor for Greg Little.

    Next, we should have Hillis line up as Full Back and Ogbannaya line up as RB. The Hillis as lone back gag is very easy to snuff out.

    Next, bring back the wildcat and throw a fake FG or punt in there too. Our special teams has destroyed elite teams on this alone before (sorry Saints, 2010).

    Next, Defensively our secondary is solid so keep it Sheldon Brown, TJ Ward, Joe Haden (Hey Joe, Antonio Brown can catch, remember that next year) and Mike Adams.

    We should strongly consider going after Lions DE Avril, he is a free agent used to playing on what has typically been an abysmal team, so it would be not much of a change. We need the pass rush that will force turnovers, a department we need to increase.

    Our Second Round pick should be someone like LB Chris Gallipo from USC.

    Who to trade/cut/whatever? Ben Watson. Montario Hardesty. Colt McCoy. Tony Pashos. Mohammed Massaquoi, Jason Pinkston, Jayme Mitchell. This is a good start…

    Oh and when we win the coin toss. DEFER DEFER DEFER. It always pisses me off when these teams differ to us at the start of game cuz they know how bad our 1st qtr offense is, especially. Our defense is strong, let them have the ball first. Let’s the get the ball first in the bigger half.

    Finally uniforms.
    At HOME
    1. Brown Jerseys, White Numerals, Orange Pants with Brown and Orange stripe down the side or
    2. Brown Jerseys, White Numerals, White Pants with Brown and Orange stripe down the side
    3. Orange Jersey, White Numerals, Brown Pants with Orange and White stripe down the side

    On the ROAD
    1. White Jerseys, Brown Numerals, White Pants
    2. White Jerseys, Brown Numerals. Orange Pants with Brown and White Stripe

    sorry for the book. Good luck to your teams in the Playoffs everyone!

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