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Matt Flynn leads Packers to Tecmo Bowl-style win over Lions

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The Green Bay Packers certainly hope they won’t need to, but today they found out that they can beat a playoff team even without Aaron Rodgers.

That’s what the Packers did today against the Lions, as Rodgers got the day off and Matt Flynn led the way with an absolutely stunning game, completing 31 of 44 passes for 480 yards and six touchdowns.

Flynn and Matthew Stafford played a great game of Tecmo Bowl: Stafford completed 36 of 59 passes for 520 yards and five touchdowns, but the second of Stafford’s two interceptions sealed the Lions’ fate with just seconds remaining in the fourth quarter. It was the first time in NFL history that two quarterbacks had 400 yards and five touchdowns in the same game.

Stafford could have made it six touchdowns if a blown call hadn’t cost him a touchdown toss to Titus Young, and the Lions will find themselves wondering what might have been if they hadn’t lost those points.

Flynn is the only quarterback other than Brett Favre or Rodgers to start for the Packers in the last 20 years, and he had better stats today than either of them ever had in more than 300 combined starts.

Calvin Johnson had a career-high 244 receiving yards for the Lions, giving him a league-leading 1,681 yards for the season.

The Lions will play at New Orleans next weekend barring the Falcons collapsing today against the Buccaneers, and a Lions defense that gave up that big a game to Flynn is going to have a tough time against Drew Brees. The Saints whipped the Lions in New Orleans during the regular season and will be heavy favorites to do it again in the postseason.

But no one will be favored over the Packers in the postseason. Their offense is a juggernaut, even when Rodgers is on the sideline.

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  1. otissor says: Jan 1, 2012 4:57 PM

    Matt Flynn = 1 round pick trade bait. Fact.

  2. caseyanthonymunoz says: Jan 1, 2012 4:58 PM

    And Flynn proves its all about the weapons in GB. Sorry Aaron, you might have lost the MVP because your backup just proved you have the best surrounding cast in the NFL.

  3. packfaninvikeland says: Jan 1, 2012 4:58 PM

    Matt Flynn For The Winn!

  4. tiffpats4eva says: Jan 1, 2012 4:59 PM

    Matt Flynn should get a starting job.

  5. sask9999 says: Jan 1, 2012 4:59 PM

    This was not Flynn first career start… nice reporting… but he did just make himself ALOT of money today… Good luck next year Flynn, wherever you end up in free agency.

  6. firethorn1001 says: Jan 1, 2012 4:59 PM

    ‘Matt Flynn = 1 round pick trade bait. Fact.’

    ________________________________

    He is a free agent so only chance of that happening is if they franchise him and then trade him OR sign him beforehand.

    Given they will use the franchise tag on Finley probably, I don’t see either case happening.

  7. nflfollower says: Jan 1, 2012 5:00 PM

    The lions were down by 7 points going into the 4th quarter against New Orleans….despite playing terribly undisciplined they ended up losing by 14. Weren’t exactly “whipped”. That being said, of course the Saints will be favored, they are a much better team.

  8. bobbylaynesreplacement says: Jan 1, 2012 5:00 PM

    Great Game by the Packers, and congrats to a Matt Flynn

    P.S … I Hate You

    signed a Lions fan :)

  9. goblue714 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:00 PM

    Matt flynn and the garbage refs beat us.

  10. orcheon says: Jan 1, 2012 5:00 PM

    shattered the record for combined passing yards set by NE/miami earlier this year

    matt flynn will get a great contract in arizona, seattle, jacksonville or washington

  11. pats1989 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:00 PM

    Wow… this proves why Drew Brees deserves to win MVP over Rodgers.. i mean.. the backup throws almost 500 yds and 6 TDS?! Rodgers is a great QB and may be one of the best in the league, but im not sure how you can say he is more valuable than Brees. Value means team would lose without you. Clearly, the Packers are a GREAT team, not a 1 man team.

  12. fanofthegame says: Jan 1, 2012 5:00 PM

    With Matt Flynn having such a good game, it may have hurt Aaron Rodger’s chances at MVP.

    It’s not about stats, although it’s become about them, and as each sports columnist sits down to vote they really need to ask the question “Who’s the most valuable player to their team?”.

  13. jh500 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:00 PM

    Aaron Rodgers is expendable. Make Flynn the starter.

  14. jayquintana says: Jan 1, 2012 5:00 PM

    If I were a Packers fan, I’d be extremely worried about that D.

  15. bobbylaynesreplacement says: Jan 1, 2012 5:01 PM

    Also … Megatron is unstoppable

    Happy New Year!

  16. johnnyb216 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:01 PM

    Unbelievable performance from flynn. The fans thought they were going to see a preseason game today, but actually got treated by possibly the best single game performance by a packer qb ever. Wish I could say the same for our defense. They made me sick today.

  17. lilrob10201 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:01 PM

    otissor says:
    Matt Flynn = 1 round pick trade bait. Fact.
    —————————————-
    He will be a free agent and will be a starting QB for some team next season.

  18. dragonfly99 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:01 PM

    Imagine what a blow out it would have been if Rodgers, Woodson, Matthews, Jennings and others would have played. As long as Jim Schwartz is coaching the Lions I will be rooting for the other team. I will never understand why he wasn’t fined by the NFL for his actions after the 49ers game.

  19. Little Earthquake says: Jan 1, 2012 5:01 PM

    I hear the Saints are going to rest Brees next week vs. Detroit.

  20. hyzers says: Jan 1, 2012 5:01 PM

    I wonder if that NFL shill Mike Perreria is celebrating in the GB locker room right now…

  21. shibbyleigh says: Jan 1, 2012 5:02 PM

    This is Flynn’s second start. First start was 12/19/10 against the Patriots last year.

    Can’t believe our second string won the game.

    Jarret Bush shouldn’t be in a NFL uniform.

  22. beedubyatoo says: Jan 1, 2012 5:02 PM

    Well Lions’ fans, you’ve been saying all year that the Lions have something to prove and of course you were right.

    The Lions proved that their first team can almost keep up with the Packers’ reserves.

  23. jasino2009 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:02 PM

    I wonder if the Lions were at least wine’d and dined before the NFL F###ed them…

  24. tommytd says: Jan 1, 2012 5:02 PM

    BFD

  25. outlawshark says: Jan 1, 2012 5:02 PM

    Flynn > Stafford. At least today.

  26. glowingstone says: Jan 1, 2012 5:02 PM

    Very happy for Matt Flynn. Somehow I’m thinking he won’t be riding a bench much longer…

  27. indyseriesnick says: Jan 1, 2012 5:02 PM

    Flynns got potential as a starter
    I remember when Rodgers last season had a concussion and Flynn almost beat the patriots IN FOXBOROUGH!
    even though im a vikes fan, i’ll agree anyday that Flynn could easily be a starter somewhere else.

  28. scoops1 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:03 PM

    Teams that Matt Flynn could start for Next Season: Jets, Cowboys, RedSkins, Dolphins, Jags, Browns, Cards, Bucs, Vikings, 49ers.

  29. uwsptke says: Jan 1, 2012 5:03 PM

    Brees still has the better surrounding cast and a way better offensive line/running game. Flynn is a 7th round pick with below average arm strength. This kid has been coached up big time, so kudos to McCarthy and Tom Clements.

  30. apm says: Jan 1, 2012 5:03 PM

    “Flynn was the first quarterback other than Brett Favre or Aaron Rodgers to start for the Packers in 20 years,”

    Better said as “Flynn is the *only* quarterback…” since this is his second start for the Packers.

    I suppose it was his first start in a non-injury situation, I guess.

  31. shibbyleigh says: Jan 1, 2012 5:03 PM

    caseyanthonymunoz says: Jan 1, 2012 4:58 PM

    And Flynn proves its all about the weapons in GB. Sorry Aaron, you might have lost the MVP because your backup just proved you have the best surrounding cast in the NFL.

    ======================

    The only thing that was proved was how awful the Lions secondary is.

  32. gmagic9044 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:04 PM

    Flynn started the last game the Packers lost (prior to the Chiefs game) last year against the Patriots, when ARodg missed due to a concussion.

    But what you wrote sounds way better!!!

    Really like the TECMO Bowl reference.

    Keep up the great work guys, really like the website!

  33. coke566 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:04 PM

    If there’s been a more poorly officiated game this year I would have loved to of seen it. This was an absolute joke. Non existent fumbles, TDs being taken away for no reason with a ref standing no more then 12 ft from the play. Offensive pass interference calls where the defender is holding the receivers arm. That’s not even getting into the missed Personal foul calls on GB for trying to bend Pettigrew in half after the whistle. For a team calling Detroit Dirty Williams sure showed what kind of nut job he is today. Enjoy your gift wrapped game today GB.

  34. 8man says: Jan 1, 2012 5:04 PM

    If the Lions defense had shown up today…

    Stafford, either finished close to 5,000 yards passing for the year or over it. This kid, if he stays healthy, can get it done.

  35. musiccitymiracle says: Jan 1, 2012 5:04 PM

    Brees loves him

  36. cmdv8 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:04 PM

    Embarrassing loss but still dont know how stafford is not a pro bowler w/over 5000 yards how is eli better?
    the lions and megatron are obviously better with him so wtf

  37. rskills says: Jan 1, 2012 5:04 PM

    Here’s hoping the Redskins sign Matt Flynn!

  38. claymath52 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:05 PM

    Since I know Lions fan are among the worst of losers… you would have loss by more if we had our starters playing of D…so you can have your blown call. Have fun in NO…

  39. otissor says: Jan 1, 2012 5:05 PM

    matt flynn iz a greats qb he should be a probowler! omg

  40. chris6523 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:05 PM

    Heck of a game by Flynn. Not sure if the Pack decides to franchise him given the situation with Finley. With the dough the pack has tied into the WR position and the large number of TEs they carry on their roster, I’m not certain that the packers either decide to break the bank for Finley by signing him before 3/1 or if they decide to franchise him. There will come a time relatively soon when the packers will start to lose some guys to free agency and Ted might decide he is going to have to begin spending a lot of resources on that defense. If that’s Ted’s decision, allowing Finley to go and getting a high draft pick by franchising and then trading flynn could be a possibility.

  41. pacificnw7722 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:06 PM

    Pete Carroll and John Schneider SHOULD have Matt Flynn on speed dial…..

  42. outlawshark says: Jan 1, 2012 5:06 PM

    Flynn > Finley

  43. beltmerica says: Jan 1, 2012 5:07 PM

    Franchise him and then trade him to the Raiders for 4 first rounders! Lol

  44. vincentbojackson says: Jan 1, 2012 5:07 PM

    And people say I’m crazy when I say Aaron Rogers success is a product of the system he plays in. Seems pretty clear when Flynn puts up these numbers. Flynn’s had similar success whenever he plays in mop up duty.

    Not saying Rogers isn’t elite, just saying if you put him on the Lions and he’s no better than Stafford.

  45. ahs2 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:07 PM

    As a Lions fan, I blame this loss on our D and credit to Flynn…but as good as Flynn played, this was our starting D and he shouldn’t have done that well, we let thismone go.

    As a football fan, I am seriously concerned at the # of blown/no calls today; when there are not enough challenge flags to compensate for all of the High-stakes bad calls, there’s a big problem.

  46. beedubyatoo says: Jan 1, 2012 5:07 PM

    “This was not Flynn first career start… nice reporting”
    ———
    “Flynn was the first quarterback other than Brett Favre or Aaron Rodgers to start for the Packers in 20 years”
    ———————–
    Have someone read this to you slowly and maybe you can comprehend it. Even your sarcasm sucks.

  47. mavajo says: Jan 1, 2012 5:07 PM

    “And Flynn proves its all about the weapons in GB. Sorry Aaron, you might have lost the MVP because your backup just proved you have the best surrounding cast in the NFL.”

    Yeah. You don’t watch much football, do you? You know who the previous record-holder was in Packers annals for 400 yards and 5 TDs? Yeah, neither do I — because it wasn’t Favre, Rodgers or Starr. Hell, it wasn’t even Dickey or the Magic Man. I guess whoever it was that started that game in 1969 and previously set the record must have been the greatest QB in Packers history!

    Flynn had a phenomenal game. But Rodgers is still the MVP of that team, and the NFL at large.

  48. judsonjr says: Jan 1, 2012 5:07 PM

    Seems like this may have been the record for most combined Net Passing Yards in a game (971). Possibly total passing yards too (1000).

  49. The Prophet says: Jan 1, 2012 5:07 PM

    So if Peyton Manning was given the MVP award by NFL magazine because the Colts faltered without him, what does this say about Aaron Rodgers?

  50. cmdv8 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:08 PM

    Flynn > Stafford. At least today

    check the stats and my previous posts db

  51. harleypuppy says: Jan 1, 2012 5:08 PM

    To all the Lions players who have yet to win anything tone down your celebrations it just motivates the other team and makes the fans wonder where are you coming from you haven’t won anything yet I am a lifelong packers fan and don’t like celebrations until its over.

  52. The Prophet says: Jan 1, 2012 5:08 PM

    I wonder who the first sucker team will be to pay Matt Flynn a fortune to carry their team, not realizing the Packers offense is a system and anyone will look good playing it.

  53. hyzers says: Jan 1, 2012 5:08 PM

    What a mockery of a game

  54. Peter Venkman says: Jan 1, 2012 5:09 PM

    coke566 says:
    Jan 1, 2012 5:04 PM
    If there’s been a more poorly officiated game this year I would have loved to of seen it. This was an absolute joke. Non existent fumbles, TDs being taken away for no reason with a ref standing no more then 12 ft from the play. Offensive pass interference calls where the defender is holding the receivers arm. That’s not even getting into the missed Personal foul calls on GB for trying to bend Pettigrew in half after the whistle. For a team calling Detroit Dirty Williams sure showed what kind of nut job he is today. Enjoy your gift wrapped game today GB.

    *******************************************

    Investing in Kleenex would be a smart move given all the tears you are shedding.

  55. cnbweb says: Jan 1, 2012 5:09 PM

    Otisser FAILS at facts!!

  56. thatswhatimsayin says: Jan 1, 2012 5:09 PM

    And in other news… The Packers D still sucks

  57. packerbacker12 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:09 PM

    “That’s not even getting into the missed Personal foul calls on GB for trying to bend Pettigrew in half after the whistle.”

    Last time I checked, that happened during a play. The ball was still in the air when that happened.

    It’s really no surprise seeing Lion fans whine, as it is basically all they do if they lose a game. Shut up and watch your lousy Lion keep on racking up those personal foul penalties.

  58. ahs2 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:10 PM

    jayquintana says:
    Jan 1, 2012 5:00 PM
    If I were a Packers fan, I’d be extremely worried about that D.

    _________________________________________

    as a Lions fan with a team going to NO next week, I’m worried about a back up QB torching my starting D!

  59. gbfanforever says: Jan 1, 2012 5:10 PM

    That was one of the most entertaining packers games I’ve ever seen. What’s weird about Flynn is that after he takes the snap, he looks slow of foot and has a seemingly slow delivery so I always expect something bad to happen but he always seems to make a play.

    It just goes to show what a 7th rd pick can at qb when they are well coached and in a good system. To think he backed up Jamarcus Russell and he just outgunned another #1 overall pick.

  60. 4sacroc says: Jan 1, 2012 5:11 PM

    Trade Rogers for slew of #1’s

    Sign The Cajun Kid!

    Kidding, people! Kidding!

    But Lions got schooled by a backup? Wow.

  61. gnarlswoodson says: Jan 1, 2012 5:12 PM

    coke566, I will enjoy our gift wrapped game thanks. I mean, it is the holiday season after all. How did it feel to watch your dream season end today against our backups because you guys have NO CHANCE-AH( cue vince mcmahons old entrance music) next week. and oh yea, happy holidays!

  62. addictedtojane says: Jan 1, 2012 5:12 PM

    I’m a huge fan of the PACK and RODGERS, and the argument that this game proves RODGERS is only great because of the weapons may be true. HOWEVER, I remind you that Matt Cassell did the EXACT same thing with the PATRIOTS after BRADY went down, now look at him, and ask yourself if that season took any of the shine off of BRADY’s HOF-status? If anything this game only proved that MCCARTHY should win COY.

  63. bigboi30 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:13 PM

    Great game by both qbs. My god beautiful. Caught my Lions flatfooted. All week even up to pregame everyone though green bay was going to run n pound today. Great gameplan. That saying I agree that was a clear touchdown by titus young and all green bay and detroit fans can agree plus the clear fumble on the punt that the Lions recovered. Both extreamly bad calls by the refs, and that has nothing to do with green bay. Both nfc north teams look ready for playoff runs. Be amazing to have a third run at it. In nfc championship game.

  64. shibbyleigh says: Jan 1, 2012 5:13 PM

    If there’s been a more poorly officiated game this year I would have loved to of seen it. This was an absolute joke. Non existent fumbles, TDs being taken away for no reason with a ref standing no more then 12 ft from the play. Offensive pass interference calls where the defender is holding the receivers arm. That’s not even getting into the missed Personal foul calls on GB for trying to bend Pettigrew in half after the whistle. For a team calling Detroit Dirty Williams sure showed what kind of nut job he is today. Enjoy your gift wrapped game today GB.

    ====================================

    The only blown calls were the Scheffler/Logan fumbles in which no points were scored as a result. The Young “TD” that was called off was correctly ruled incomplete; the ball was moving the whole time he was falling to the ground.

    Instead of whining about the refs, worry about the fact that your team couldn’t beat the Packers second string. This game was gift wrapped for you the second they made Rodgers, Woodson, Matthews, etc. inactive and the Lions poo’d the bed.

  65. grandpoopah says: Jan 1, 2012 5:13 PM

    Congratulations, Goodell, you have succeeded in turning the NFL into Arena League football. What a joke. RIP defense.

  66. direland says: Jan 1, 2012 5:14 PM

    Any team that needs a decent QB will trade for him before he hits the open market.

    And the Brees-Rodgers MVP discussion was settled in week 1. So soon you forget.

  67. firejerry says: Jan 1, 2012 5:15 PM

    If you look at Matt Flynn vs Caleb Haney and the Green Bay offensive line and receivers it only indicates what a bad job Jerry Angelo is doing in Chicago…..fire Jerry before he drafts more losers….

  68. cmdv8 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:15 PM

    flynn haha think matt cassel dont get to excited douchbay

  69. lilrob10201 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:15 PM

    Leave the Packers fans out of this.Leave them alone they already have enough on their plate.

  70. packerbacker12 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:15 PM

    “Wow… this proves why Drew Brees deserves to win MVP over Rodgers.. i mean.. the backup throws almost 500 yds and 6 TDS?! Rodgers is a great QB and may be one of the best in the league, but im not sure how you can say he is more valuable than Brees. Value means team would lose without you. Clearly, the Packers are a GREAT team, not a 1 man team.”

    Rodgers broke the record for the highest passer rating in a single season, threw 45 touchdowns in 15 games, has thrown only 6 interceptions and has helped lead his team to a 15-1 record and homefield advantage.

    And no one should even try saying Brees has thrown for one more touchdown than Rodgers because it is completely irrelevant. Had Rodgers not sat out this entire game, he could of easily finished the season 48-49 touchdown passes.

  71. badfish6907 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:15 PM

    pats1989 says:
    Jan 1, 2012 5:00 PM
    Wow… this proves why Drew Brees deserves to win MVP over Rodgers.. i mean.. the backup throws almost 500 yds and 6 TDS?! Rodgers is a great QB and may be one of the best in the league, but im not sure how you can say he is more valuable than Brees. Value means team would lose without you. Clearly, the Packers are a GREAT team, not a 1 man team.
    ————————————————–

    There is no way the Packers are 15-1 with home field throughout the playoffs without Aaron Rodgers.

    Rodgers has done more with over 100 fewer pass attempts and no multiple INT games where Drew Brees has had five.

    One good game by a backup doesn’t negate the precision Rodgers has played with all season long.

  72. detlions80 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:15 PM

    Goes to show how good Rodgers is… almost as good as a 7th round pick with 1 career start. Bring on N.O.

  73. 700levelvet says: Jan 1, 2012 5:16 PM

    Saints vs. Pack for the NFC Championship ( and everyone knows that’s what it’s going to be) might be the first triple digit over/under line in league history….

  74. momsasaynt says: Jan 1, 2012 5:16 PM

    You know what’s really sweet seeing Rodgers isn’t a frickin superman like every news outlet shoves down our throats every day. Flynn was GREAT let’s see if the Packer’s let him get his chance. I’m thinking NO.

  75. packfaninvikeland says: Jan 1, 2012 5:16 PM

    jayquintana says: Jan 1, 2012 5:00 PM

    If I were a Packers fan, I’d be extremely worried about that D.
    ———————————————————–
    I am a Packer fan, and I have been extremely worried about our d since week one lol.

  76. 8man says: Jan 1, 2012 5:17 PM

    claymath52 says:
    Jan 1, 2012 5:05 PM
    Since I know Lions fan are among the worst of losers… you would have loss by more if we had our starters playing of D…so you can have your blown call. Have fun in NO…
    ————————————————
    You are behaving like a punk and this is why I didn’t buy a share of stock, even as a keep sake.

    And if NO comes to Lambeau, you may eat your words. Go Lions!

  77. redruckus81 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:17 PM

    Worst defensive outing I have seen from the Lions since the 0-16 season and the worst officiated game of the year.

  78. kevpft says: Jan 1, 2012 5:18 PM

    Regarding this nonsense about Flynn’s performance raising doubts about how good Rodgers is:

    Rodgers wasn’t the only Packers starter resting.

    This result calls only one thing into question: the legitimacy of the Lions.

    Right now, I take either the Giants or Cowboys over these Lions. Not there yet, fellas.

  79. acmepacker says: Jan 1, 2012 5:20 PM

    I understand how the Lions feel about the officials but that isn’t what beat them. They’re a lot like GB was a couple of years ago. They had so many penalties today, and if they’d played with more discipline, thy wouldn’t have kept shooting themselves in the foot and probably would have had the win. There were bad calls on both sides tho I do agree that the touchdown call was pretty lame.

  80. edukator4 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:20 PM

    regarding pending ufa matt flynn:
    buyer beware

    see:
    rob johnson, one time buffalo bill

  81. algrls says: Jan 1, 2012 5:21 PM

    Good win for GB, but it just felt like the fix was in, the refs clearly pooched some calls for the Lions, time after time they appeared to favor the packers.

  82. skipbayless says: Jan 1, 2012 5:23 PM

    I’d rather have Matt Flynn over SANCHEZ, FLACCO, browns quarterbacks, gabbert, locker hasselbeck, orton, tebow, carson palmer, rex grosmann beck, KOLB, tarvaris and many other backups. And I’m as serious as can be. and this is from a saddened eagles fan. Now i want to see the likes on this comment.

  83. visible4 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:24 PM

    Stafford went over 5,000 yards and 40 touchdowns. Worth a mention.

    Flyn was great today and the Lions D was terrible. Refs had as bad of a game as I can remember Fumbled punt, no touchdown call just to name a couple game changing misses. Hope those guys are not the refs in the super bowl.

  84. blmonroe12 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:24 PM

    This guy could be the most coveted free agent on the market this off season. Brees, Rice and Welker are going to re-sign with their teams. Forte is great but clearly RB’s are easier to find the QB’s. This guy might get big money from Cleveland or Washington – and maybe even Seattle.

  85. nvinceable1 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:24 PM

    It’s funny how people are using Flynn’s performance as proof that Rodgers is “only a system QB” and “just a product of the weapons around him” and thus concluding that Brees is clearly superior.

    First of all, any QB is going to benefit from a wealth of weapons, and great ones will take full advantage of that. Brees included, last I checked he had some mighty potent weapons surrounding him – likely as many, or more, than Rodgers.

    Secondly, having weapons doesn’t automatically make you good. Flynn has busted his butt for seasons in GB knowing that he’s unlikely to ever take the field as a starter. It was this hard work that allowed him to thrive in the system. How about giving credit where it’s due rather than belittling the effort and performance that Flynn put forth today and merely writing it off as the “system.”

    Lastly, Brees and Rodgers have both had spectacular seasons. Both are clearly at the top of the football food chain right now and both are great ambassadors of the game. I think regardless of which wins the MVP, the fans and league as a whole win with great performances like this week in week out.

  86. footballnut2011 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:25 PM

    Breeze is gonna throw for 600 on that aweful defense. Can’t wait to see it!

  87. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Jan 1, 2012 5:27 PM

    realizing the Packers offense is a system and anyone will look good playing it.
    __________________________

    That’s the dumbest comment yet.. then why don’t all teams have the Packer’s system if anyone can play it. Then no one would have to worry about who they draft for a quarterback.

  88. mt99808 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:28 PM

    This stupid story is going to overshadow the terrible officiating in this game.

  89. addictedtojane says: Jan 1, 2012 5:28 PM

    Let me remind PACKERS fans that are going to attempt to defend RODGERS over this FLYNN game that you should just be happy that PACKERS won and are 15-1. Don’t go down the road where you are more of a RODGERS fan than you are a PACKERS fan like so many FAVRE backers did. Frankly, I’d prefer RODGERS to lose the MVP, after all they announce it before the Super Bowl if I recall correctly, and that would only serve to fuel him more to win.

  90. hscorpio says: Jan 1, 2012 5:31 PM

    What a great game to watch. Talk about a roller coaster ride!

    Congrats to Matt Flynn, who made himself a LOT of money today.

  91. mineallmine001 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:32 PM

    Breeze is gonna throw for 600 on that aweful defense. Can’t wait to see it!

    —————————————

    see week 1

  92. voiceofrealism says: Jan 1, 2012 5:34 PM

    All this arguing about Rodgers, Brees, Flynn. What’s the difference, they’re all better than Stafford.

  93. nvinceable1 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:35 PM

    Suck for Luck! Win with Flynn!

  94. cliffordc05 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:36 PM

    If Flynn is such a lousy quarterback and today’s stats are reflective of the system, then why doesn’t every other NFL team run the same system. Flynn is obviously a pretty damn good quarterback and will be the most highly sought free agent in the off-season.

    Lions fans really are the biggest cry babies in the league. I have never seen as many posts complaining about the officiating in a game where a team gave up nearly 500 passing yards. I don’t care if there were no officials, at some point Detroit needs to improve that secondary and Detroit fans should recognize that fact. Then you can bitch about the refs.

  95. pack15forever says: Jan 1, 2012 5:38 PM

    The Lions played against a team that did not start Matthews, Woodson or Rodgers and they still lost. The Lions had every reason to win as they wanted the fifth playoff spot but came up short any way. I’ll be rooting for the Lions against the Saints but I’m not holding my breath.

  96. packersweep says: Jan 1, 2012 5:39 PM

    jayquintana says:
    Jan 1, 2012 5:00 PM

    If I were a Packers fan, I’d be extremely worried about that D.
    ————————————————-

    If I were a fan of any other team in the playoffs I would be more worried about that O.

  97. badfish6907 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:40 PM

    The Lions should get some bonus points for that awesome flop by Stafford on the Bishop personal foul.

  98. brutar88 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:40 PM

    Great game to watch. And congratulations to the Lions for the great improvement they’ve made this year. Keep upgrading and in a few years, who knows, you might be able to beat the Packer’s backups.

  99. aaronitout says: Jan 1, 2012 5:43 PM

    Fans of teams that are less talented….please continue griping about the fact that most of your starting QBs aren’t even as good as GB’s backup.

    In all seriousness, I think Flynn’s performance says volumes about McCarthy’s ability to coach the QB position. He was the QB coach that trained Rich Gannon right before he left for Oakland, trained Aaron Rodgers for 3 years, trained Flynn for 3 years…Great coach with tremendous level of focus!

  100. fground says: Jan 1, 2012 5:43 PM

    I think this game illustrates that a lot of what people think is great QB play is actually team based skills.

    Look what happened when Cassell came in for Brady…he was very good…shipped off to KC – he sucks.

  101. gbpack50 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:43 PM

    Rogers is the Quarterback. Flynn had a great game but he is in a great system. He will be a starter somewhere else next year but will never acheive what he did today. Lions fans, quit crying you should be used to losing. To you Suh, THE BELT!!

  102. expatpack says: Jan 1, 2012 5:46 PM

    That was a clear DET touchdown. The officiating was horrible this game…but that is nothing new in the NFL. Both teams get and lose calls. GB rec’d plenty of bad calls this game as well. Winning with a shell of a team and going to 15-1, sweeping the NFCN with a bye and home field advantage is just fine with this Packers fan. This renewed rivalry will be fun to watch in years to come.

  103. ferrousfan says: Jan 1, 2012 5:46 PM

    Regarding the Rodgers vs. Brees MVP debate – I’m not sure why some people think the Saints are so void of talent in comparison to the Packers. The Saints have a talented and decorated offensive line that stayed healthy all year. Lance Moore, Meachem, Henderson and Colston make up a formidable top four receiving corps, and I haven’t even mentioned Jimmy Graham who is having a better year than Finley. Sproles is the “X” factor, and an upgrade to Reggie Bush, and Pierre Thomas, Ingram (I know he is now hurt) and Ivory are comparable if not better than Green Bay’s rushing attack. Brees is a fantastic QB, and I love the guy. The fact of the matter is that Rodgers had the superior year, and the supporting cast argument is pretty weak.

  104. justaintrightisit says: Jan 1, 2012 5:48 PM

    All this talk of a “system quarterback” is really quite funny. It doesn’t matter what the system is the throws still have to be made and Rodgers right now is one of the best if not the best at making these throws.

    The bad calls have been going on all year so to blame it on bad calls is foolish, that is something the teams just have to overcome until the NFL fixes this very flawed system.

    The most glaring fact of this game was that BOTH teams are poor defensive teams and will get lit up by NO, it will all come down to whoever keep scoring right with them.

  105. maddogwhite says: Jan 1, 2012 5:49 PM

    This is the reason people need to put Cam Newton’s numbers into perspective. It’s nothing now for a relative newcomer to come into a game and put up monster numbers.

    Thank you, Goodell, for your stupid defensive penalties and turning the NFL into the Arena league.

  106. johnnyb216 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:50 PM

    I really don’t understand all this talk about a qb being good only because of the system he plays in. Seems to me, it takes a good qb to run the system well. If a player suddenly doesn’t perform well like he has in the past, I’d start to fault the system not the qb.

  107. garyman1 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:51 PM

    Maybe Flynn will be like Rodgers and patiently wait for his turn to start in GB…. all he has to do is wait another decade or so.
    Ah crap…that won’t happen, and we’ll get nothing for him.

  108. gopackgo11 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:57 PM

    Maybe it’s time to congratulate Mike, Ted and their staff for proving they know how to find talent and coach them up.

    Too bad Flynn gets to just leave the Pack in the offseason Teddy could have made some hay with that first round pick.

  109. lionsfan2086 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:58 PM

    First off we weren’t “whipped” by the Saints in the regular season. Our defense played without Suh, CB Chris Houston, FS Louis Delmas, NB Aaron Berry and lost Fairley early in the game and had another injury in the already depleted secondary during the game. It was a 7 point game heading into the 4th quarter and if Nate Burleson hadn’t slipped and fell, it would have been tied at 24 all early in the 4th. We ended up losing by 14.

    We’re new at this playoff thing, but I think we have a shot. Only 4 QBs ever have passed for over 5000 yards and 2 of them will be playing in this game. I have a ton of respect for Brees and the Saints and this should be a shootout game. Good luck to everyone in the post season and Go Lions!

  110. badfish6907 says: Jan 1, 2012 5:58 PM

    Opposing players need to learn do not do the belt against the Packers. They will lose the game 9 out of 10 times.

  111. broncofootball93 says: Jan 1, 2012 6:04 PM

    This goes to show the lions made the right choice drafting stafford. sanchez sucks, freeman has been awful this year and curry is a bust.

  112. vikinghater says: Jan 1, 2012 6:04 PM

    nvinceable1 says:Jan 1, 2012 5:35 PM

    Suck for Luck! Win with Flynn!
    —————————————————

    I Like It!!!

  113. vijayswearingen says: Jan 1, 2012 6:05 PM

    Matt Flynn will not be Rob Johnson, Matt Cassell or even Kevin Kolb…he is trained by the best in the league (next to Sean Payton) in Mike McCarthy and Tom Clements at the QB position. Plus, he’s diligently worked with one Aaron Rodgers as both his friend and mentor.

    Matt Flynn would be a steal for a team that does not draft Andrew Luck this offseason and needs a QB.

  114. silverdeer says: Jan 1, 2012 6:07 PM

    To All,

    1. I am a Lions fan (negative marks are expected)
    2. Matt Flynn just made himself a ton of money.
    3. It was apparent that Detroit got “jobbed” on two key plays. One was the fumble with Logan. He was down and only on the roll over did the ball come loose. The other was on the touchdown with Young. On reply it was clear that he got both feet down which would have given Det the lead at the time.

    I am not making excuses for the amount of offense that Det’s “D” gave up, nor am I making excuses for the penalties that caused Det to shoot themselves in the foot. However, with Det. as the favorite in Las Vegas, it has to make you wonder what influence the money has on the outcomes of the NFL.

  115. teal379 says: Jan 1, 2012 6:09 PM

    Pretty much ends the idea that Andy Reid is the best QB coach in the league. He’s never had a starter perform like Flynn did – much less some guy holding a clip board.

  116. majikbullet says: Jan 1, 2012 6:18 PM

    First off, Flynn played great today! Good for him!

    Second off the Lions secondary was bad, guys were wide open a lot and Flynn took advantage and was obviously well coached.

    Finally, for all you ignorant posters out there. How well would Flynn do if there was some film on him for teams to gameplan against? We see it time and time again when replacements can play well for a while but once the opposition can watch film, and plan against them, they don’t look so great.

    Teams gameplan for QBs liek Rodgers and Brees for weeks and can’t defend them. Detroit had one career start and a few untelling preseason games to go off of for Flynn, and maybe those few handoffs from last weeks game.

    So before you say Flynn will be great, let’s see how he does next year when teams start to have their entire gameplan focused on him and see how well he does.

    Also, the refs sucked both ways equally, you whiners saying the refs gave the Pack the game are delusional, there were game changing calls blown both ways. Get a clue!

  117. theripster30 says: Jan 1, 2012 6:29 PM

    Matt Flynn just threw for 6 TDs and almost 500 yards and there are still mass haters. I almost pity that.

  118. teal379 says: Jan 1, 2012 6:29 PM

    True there wasn’t a ton of film on Rodgers but let’s not get crazy – the only difference between Flynn and Rodgers today is Flynn doesn’t take off and run as much as Rodgers does/can.

    So essentially – they play the same and if anything – Flynn should be EASIER to defend as he’s just standing there.

  119. dolphins4 says: Jan 1, 2012 6:43 PM

    I hope the Dolphins sign Matt Flynn in the off season.

  120. mmcdan133 says: Jan 1, 2012 6:49 PM

    Has anyone ever made more money off of one game than Matt Flynn did today?

    The Redskins and Seahawks are going to back up the Brinks trucks for this guy.

  121. tiffpats4eva says: Jan 1, 2012 7:14 PM

    Somebody is a system QB.

  122. tiffpats4eva says: Jan 1, 2012 7:32 PM

    fground says:
    Jan 1, 2012 5:43 PM
    I think this game illustrates that a lot of what people think is great QB play is actually team based skills.

    Look what happened when Cassell came in for Brady…he was very good…shipped off to KC – he sucks.
    ************************

    Do you have an issue with remembering events?Matt Cassel was not very good. He terrible and then he became adequate. Matt got better towards the end of the season.

    The Patriots had a very good defense. People forget about that.

  123. bigtimepackfan says: Jan 1, 2012 8:15 PM

    pack have the best gm and coaching staff in football. i never doubted the pack beating the lions with flynn at quarterback today. packs the best team in football bring on the saints, niners, cowboys, giants or whomever all the pack haters want them to play.15 and 1 and home field. i like the packs chances.

  124. packerzman says: Jan 1, 2012 8:24 PM

    As impressive as Matt Stafford and the offense was today the Lions defense has become the Raiders of the NFC North..just a bunch of posers who trash talk and get penalized regardless of how many points they’re behind (see Suhs double championship belt sack celebration). How does that celebration feel now Suh? Maybe Flynn after throwing 6 TDs against that pourous defense should have ran over to Suh and placed the ball down and stomped on it. As for the MVP of the league..go ahead and give it to Brees..considering their accomplishments the last calender year the Packers have been overlooked all year long by all the pretenders(Philadelphia’s dream team and Tebow to name a few) im sure Rodgers has bigger plans than the league MVP as historically everyone would remember back to back Super Bowl MVPs

  125. childressrulz says: Jan 1, 2012 8:24 PM

    firethorn1001 says: Jan 1, 2012 4:59 PM

    ‘Matt Flynn = 1 round pick trade bait. Fact.’

    ________________________________

    He is a free agent so only chance of that happening is if they franchise him and then trade him OR sign him beforehand.

    Given they will use the franchise tag on Finley probably, I don’t see either case happening.
    ______________________
    Interesting point of view considering all Finley does is drop balls. Let Finley walk and tag Flynn.

  126. badfish6907 says: Jan 1, 2012 8:38 PM

    tiffpats4eva says:
    Jan 1, 2012 7:14 PM
    Somebody is a system QB.
    ————————————————–
    Yeah but Tom Brady is still a really good QB despite that fact.

  127. gw79 says: Jan 1, 2012 8:39 PM

    Packers by a TD over the Pats in the big game!
    Would love to see Flynn in San Fran…

  128. joecb91 says: Jan 1, 2012 9:39 PM

    Flynn gave a lot of arguments to the people who call Rodgers a system QB

  129. packerzman says: Jan 1, 2012 10:02 PM

    the Packers will never use the franchise tag on a back up QB…no matter how good he looked. They’ve been grooming Graham Harrell to take over the #2 spot all year. Don’t think they’ll automatically use it on Finley either..they won a Super Bowl without him and he’s been dropping passes all year. If the Packers use the tag on anyone I think it will be Scott Wells

  130. jessethegreat says: Jan 1, 2012 10:04 PM

    Those expecting the Packers to just let Flynn leave and tag Finley are clueless. McCarthy and Thompson both know they will get more value from Flynn. The Packers have 4 tight ends. If Finley wants to take the most money, he will no longer be a member of the World Champions. Flynn will get tagged. As the Packers proved last year, they can and will win without Finley. He is a luxury in the Packers offense.

  131. jonathanfesler says: Jan 1, 2012 10:36 PM

    I’m a life long Packer fan from Mi! I can’t comment on the game sence it wasn’t aired here! Colts Jags, Bears Vikes is what I had to choose from? Big time pissed!!! I mean disgusted pissed! I have a lot of Friends who are big time Lions fans, round here in SW Mi 4 different teams have a solid fan base and through out the years we tease each other but also feel each others pain! Good luck to the Lions next week against the Saints!!!

  132. tiffpats4eva says: Jan 1, 2012 10:43 PM

    badfish6907 says:

    Yeah but Tom Brady is still a really good QB despite that fact.
    ****************

    No, Brady is a great QB. 3 Super Bowls wins. When did Tom Brady’s back up come in and out play him? Never happened.

    Like it or not, Flynn out played Rodgers.

  133. tiffpats4eva says: Jan 1, 2012 10:45 PM

    gw79 says:
    Jan 1, 2012 8:39 PM
    Packers by a TD over the Pats in the big game!
    Would love to see Flynn in San Fran…
    *************************

    You see the Packers beating the Saints? Really? With that defense?

  134. packersownerandshareholder says: Jan 1, 2012 10:48 PM

    Matt Flynn and our back ups are better than most teams starters. Great win for the franchise! I can’t wait for the Playoffs, may the best team win!

  135. outlawshark says: Jan 1, 2012 10:56 PM

    cmdv8 says:Jan 1, 2012 5:08 PM

    Flynn > Stafford. At least today

    check the stats and my previous posts db

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    More TDs, less INTs, one win, 0 losses. All the stats I need idiot.

  136. Matt says: Jan 1, 2012 11:02 PM

    The Packers defense is better than the Patriots defense. Both teams giving up same amountof yards per game. Packers create more turnovers and are giving up fewer points a game

  137. Matt says: Jan 1, 2012 11:09 PM

    Brady may have 3 rings, but none post SpyGate. So 3 with a large asterik. If the league wasn’t so pro Patriots 3* is exactly how it would be noted in NFL records and history. Want to see him him a championship without cheating before I will call him great.

  138. packfan1996 says: Jan 1, 2012 11:14 PM

    Bottom line is the refs had bad calls both ways. If you need to use that as an excuse , you don’t belong in the playoffs.
    Good Luck getting creamed by the Saints.

    Bottom line –

    Packers Reserves – 45
    Lions Starters – 41

    Enough said!

  139. cmizzad says: Jan 1, 2012 11:19 PM

    tiffpats4eva says: Jan 1, 2012 10:43 PM

    No, Brady is a great QB. 3 Super Bowls wins. When did Tom Brady’s back up come in and out play him? Never happened.

    Like it or not, Flynn out played Rodgers.

    ====================================

    Yep, you’re right. Flynn threw 6 TDs and Rodgers threw 0 today.

    Let’s just give him the starting job now.

    Genius argument there.

  140. comeonnowguys says: Jan 1, 2012 11:58 PM

    Breaking news: Lions fans complain about the officiating.

    /yawn

  141. tdrundmc says: Jan 2, 2012 12:14 AM

    MDS, the Lions could have easily won that game in New Orleans a few weeks back so how did they get “whipped”. Keep it up you tool box.

  142. 52claymaker52 says: Jan 2, 2012 12:35 AM

    People seem to come out of the woodwork to discredit Rodgers. It could just be that Flynn is also very good and happens to have been coached up by one of the best QB coaches in this generation. I suppose Rodgers could have been in there today throwing 4 or 5 TDs in a relatively meaningless game but what for? Flynn got to display his talents and it made him a ton of money. Today’s performance literally made him millions.

    Nobody knows what the Saints look like w/o Brees because he’s too busy throwing TD passes when up by 4 TDs in the 4th quarter.

    By the way did you see who was calling the plays? Aaron Rodgers.

  143. packerowner says: Jan 2, 2012 12:57 AM

    Got some breaks today. A win is still a win. Outcome of the game would not have affected the Packers, but certainly a win means more to the Lions. That being said, the playoffs is an entirely new season. Hopefully, the Packers D turn it up a couple of notches when each game matters.

  144. cowhawkfan says: Jan 2, 2012 1:07 AM

    Do most of you understand the difference between an MVP and a POY? An MVP doesn’t have to be the best player or the one that had the best year, he just has to be the most “valuable”. Rogers may be the best player this year, but I think today proves he’s not the most valuable.

  145. killface4prez says: Jan 2, 2012 1:28 AM

    tiffpats4eva says:

    You see the Packers beating the Saints? Really? With that defense?

    ——————————

    umm… I already saw it once this year, so I guess I don’t quite see why you think it’s so unfathomable.

  146. blughst20 says: Jan 2, 2012 2:05 AM

    I can’t believe all of today’s posts. It was a great game. The Lions are in the playoffs. The Packers backup QB had the game of his life. And Suh won’t get fined this week.

    All’s right with the world in Lions and Packerland.

    And it was fun to watch!

  147. packerfanfordecades says: Jan 2, 2012 2:34 AM

    I’m going to guess that Ted Thompson is going to invent a way to get significant trade value for Matt Flynn while trying to keep him away from Minnesota and Chicago. It would be nice to see him land in the AFC, actually.

    I was at the early August 2008 intra-squad game at Lambeau. Three QBs played in that scrimmage: Aaron, the second string guy (whose name I can’t remember and can’t find on GBay’s web site), and 3rd string rookie Matt. That scrimmage was played as Brett was landing at the Green Bay airport just before his trade to the Jets was arranged. My untrained-eye impression that evening: none of the three QBs completed many passes in the scrimmage, but the strongest, most decisive throws definitely came from Matt Flynn.

    Hats off to the Green Bay coaching system that took that raw talent and 3.x years later we have a fantastic performance from Matt.

    I’m thinking that the “system” in Green Bay is this: magnificent evaluation of new talent + great draft day judgment + exceptional coaching success + a consistently humble attitude across the entire organization + a love relationship with a fan base that would never dream of leaving a seat vacant at Lambeau regardless of temperature or score.

    Our next road trip is to Indianapolis.

  148. westcoastpackerfan says: Jan 2, 2012 2:42 AM

    I knew this post would turn into a “Rodgers is not really that good” thread.

    The fact is, we’ll never know if Chase Daniel could have thrown for 300 yds and 3 TDs today vs. Carolina’s HORRIBLE defense, because only Mike McCarthy has the confidence in his system/backup to put his guy out there. He prepared Aaron for the game, let him call the plays in the first half, so it’s not like Rodgers will be “rusty” in 2 weeks. But the coach understood what other coaches don’t, that if you’re going to play your back ups, you might as well play them the whole game. None of this, Rodgers plays 2 series B.S. What’s the point in that? If you want your 2nd String QB to play a lot, prepare him to start, and go out there and give it your best shot.

    And, for the 15th time out of 16 games this year, the Packers’ best shot was better than their opponents.

    Oh, and one more thing, I think the Packers offense can function just fine in January in Green Bay. Since December 4th they have scored 38 at NYG, 46 at home vs. Oakland, stumbled to 14 at KC, scored 35 against the Bears (Flynn played the entire 4th qtr in that game too, mostly just hand offs though), and 45 vs. Detroit.

    The Saints aren’t the only team that can ring up the points.

  149. majikbullet says: Jan 2, 2012 3:01 AM

    tiffpats4eva says:
    Jan 1, 2012 10:45 PM
    gw79 says:
    Jan 1, 2012 8:39 PM
    Packers by a TD over the Pats in the big game!
    Would love to see Flynn in San Fran…
    *************************

    You see the Packers beating the Saints? Really? With that defense?
    ==============
    LOL…..if you would do your research you would see that both the Saints and Packers give up 21 points per game, last time I checked that was all that matters.

    And the Saints aren’t the same team on the road, ask St. Louis and Tampa Bay, as well as Seattle last year, and this time when they go to GB it won’t be 75 out, it’s January and the Saints will struggle to win on the road in any outdoor stadium in January.

    So to answer your question yes, I see the Packers winning at home, if the game was in NO, then might answer would probably be different. Do your research before you look like a fool!

  150. shaggytoodle says: Jan 2, 2012 3:19 AM

    comeonnowguys says:
    Jan 1, 2012 11:58 PM
    Breaking news: Lions fans complain about the officiating.
    ____________________

    Motor City Kitty fans forget that terrible call where the dude juggled it out of bounds and was challenged and not overturned.

    Complain about the officials but just remember the Packers beat them without thier 3 best players on the field.

    Yeah totally zebras fault they lost that game.

  151. majikbullet says: Jan 2, 2012 3:54 AM

    Flynn also got all the no-huddle play calls straight from Aaron Rodgers!!!

  152. frank booth says: Jan 2, 2012 6:36 AM

    Anyone who calls Aaron Rodgers (or any QB for that matter) a “system quarterback” after his back-up has one great game is a complete idiot.

    Based on that logic, if Flynn had performed badly, I guess we’d have to assume that the Packers run an absolutely horrible system and Rodgers just happens to transcend it.

    Aaron Rodgers didn’t have the best single-season passer rating of all time by being a system quarterback, if there is even such a thing. He’s been incredibly accurate and throws very few interceptions. I guess the Colts must run a horrible system since no other QB’s have been able to even play adequately within it.

    Apparently Frank Reich proved that Jim Kelly was a system QB when he stepped in and brought Buffalo back from a 35-3 defecit in 1993.

    Which teams have the best systems, where you can just plug in one QB after the other, regardless of their talent? I haven’t seen one. The geniuses out there sure talk about it a lot, but no one can provide an example. And to try and use Matt Flynn’s single game performance as evidence that Aaron Rodgers is just average is silly. Try turning on the TV and watch a game every once in a while.

    Also, anyone notice that every time the Lions lose a game, it’s the refs fault? I need to get the Detroit fans perspective right:

    -Suh isn’t dirty

    -If a backup quarterback performs well in one game, it proves that the starter is just average and is good because of the system

    -All Detroit losses are due to the referees or some other outside force

    -Matt Stafford is the toughest QB ever, even though he’s missed 19 out of 48 starts due to injury

    -Detroit is actually a very nice city

  153. 122u says: Jan 2, 2012 7:43 AM

    I must say, I really enjoyed this game and found much pleasure out of the Packers Reserves beating the Lions after all the trashtalk this week. It don’t get no better Packfans!!
    As far as the Defense, We heard it all year long by jealous crybabies. Oh they suck, you will get beat next week, blah blah blah! The bottomline is they don’t need a defense with that kind of offense and when they do, The D seems to rise to the occasion.
    How bout that Jordy Nelson, eh! Pretty fly for a whiteboy. Not to sound racist, but country-boy whiteboys aint sposed to be doin that, lol.
    Then there is Flynn! Wow is all I got to say!! I knew he had it in him after watching him against New England last season. But in this game, he was handed pretty much a reserve team and still managed to turn in a spectacular performance and finish it! Who would I prefer for a franchise QB?? Flynn or Luck?? Your call on this one but usually rookies take time to develop and sometimes they never do. I would much rather have a proven young star in the making with NFL experience showing he can play, especially with a RESERVE TEAM!
    It was a great game to see. The Pack has sent to division rivals to their graves in the past two weeks. All I have to say is NEXT!!
    All you Packer Haters remember this:

    The Road To The Superbowl
    Goes Through Lambeau Field
    The Lombardi Trophy
    Is In Green Bay
    Where It Belongs &
    Where It’s Gonna Stay!
    Go Pack

  154. 122u says: Jan 2, 2012 8:07 AM

    One other thing I have to say:
    It was kind of cool seeing #12 being the clipboard/waterboy for Flynn. That just shows what kind of a humble person Aaron Rodgers is. I think #4 would have had a hissyfit if that happened to him in the last game and he wasn’t able to pad his stats and get his 5,000 yards. Flynn and Rodgers are very good friends and it will be sad to see them part. But it is something that has to be. Aaron Rodgers understands and wishes nothing but the best for his friend and we need to as well. We have another good, young quality QB in Graham Harrell who isn’t too shabby so we will be ok.

  155. truthserum4u says: Jan 2, 2012 9:23 AM

    direland says:Jan 1, 2012 5:14 PM

    Any team that needs a decent QB will trade for him before he hits the open market.

    And the Brees-Rodgers MVP discussion was settled in week 1. So soon you forget.
    =======================

    MVPs aren’t decided in week 1.

    The rules won’t allow the Packers to trade Flynn before he becomes a free agent without a tag on the player. It would be tough to franchise tag Flynn because he’s not worth the average of the top five QBs in the league. Other teams know this and know the Packers couldn’t keep him with such a tag.

    For those jumping on the Flynn bandwagon keep these QBs, who also showed similiar but breif displays of brilliance, in mind: Kevin Kolb, Matt Cassell, Rob Johnson, Derek Anderson & Scott Mitchell. Things change when teams have tape on you and have a chance to game plan against you.

  156. 122u says: Jan 2, 2012 10:07 AM

    There are two ways to look at these kind of games.
    #1. From the fans perspective- Lions Defense was terrible getting torched for 45 points by the Pack reserves. They will surely get their butts kicked in New Orleans next week with the Saints playing their first string. That is what Vegas wants you to think :)

    #2. From the High Stakes Gambler: Both teams accomplished what they wanted. GB kept their starters healthy and Detroit didn’t show anything by playing a vanilla defense. Hmmm, Could it be Detroit really wanted to play New Orleans in a warm dome over the Giants? I wonder what the spread is on this one? Everyone should be betting on New Orleans to cover it easily? From prior experience these ones usually go the opposite and perhaps Detroit might even win outright? A lot of money and hype to be made on a rematch in Lambeau? Just a thought :)

  157. badfish6907 says: Jan 2, 2012 12:14 PM

    Food for thought. Drew Brees has completed 125 more passes than Rodgers this year but he also attempted almost 160 more passes.

    If Rodgers had kept up with those crazy numbers he would have thrown for almost 6000 yards at his current 9.2 yards per pass average. Most likely more INT’s obviously, but a crapload more TD’s as well.

    I just think Rodgers did more with his attempts this year than Brees, plus Rodgers missed one game and sat out another 3/4 of a game because of being pulled late in blowouts.

    Both are deserving, but Rodgers should be MVP this year.

  158. 3ghostninja says: Jan 2, 2012 12:14 PM

    Last I checked, Jordy Nelson, Jermichael Finley and Ryan Grant all played. So “Packers reserves” isn’t entirely true. Not going to argue too much, though. The Lions D gave up way too many big plays in this one.

    The Lions were missing Corey Williams, Best, LeShoure and Delmas. I guess the Lions had their reserves out there too. It’s just that Green Bay won the Super Bowl last year with Jennings, Finley and Grant out.

    Truthfully, the Lions secondary was exposed in a big way, but something doesn’t make sense: How can you go from shutting down a red hot Philip Rivers to getting torched by Matt Flynn?

    The most frustrating thing about this is the fact that Stafford accomplished something that only 3 other Quarterbacks in the history of the game have done and it was overshadowed by a backup QB (who will be overpaid next season) torching an inept defense.

  159. wicky888 says: Jan 2, 2012 12:20 PM

    I hate bad officiating as much as anyone, but seriously Detroit fans. How can you even bring up the refs when you lost to second stringers? The refs screwed you did they? YOU LOST TO BACK-UPS. Now be a man about it and move on.

    PS thanks Matt Flynn
    -A Falcons fan

  160. wicky888 says: Jan 2, 2012 12:28 PM

    PSS

    Jim Schwartz is a whiny douche with a stupid face

  161. majikbullet says: Jan 2, 2012 12:34 PM

    Frank Booth is spot on!!!

    For those cutting on Rodgers look into the Vikings season a little, Christian Ponder looked pretty good in his first start of the season too, but obviously that didn’t last too long. No film to gameplan against makes a lot of QBs look better than they are.

  162. jimmysee says: Jan 2, 2012 12:45 PM

    packerfanfordecades says:
    Jan 2, 2012 2:34 AM
    I’m going to guess that Ted Thompson is going to invent a way to get significant trade value for Matt Flynn while trying to keep him away from Minnesota and Chicago. It would be nice to see him land in the AFC, actually.

    I was at the early August 2008 intra-squad game at Lambeau. Three QBs played in that scrimmage: Aaron, the second string guy (whose name I can’t remember and can’t find on GBay’s web site), and 3rd string rookie Matt. That scrimmage was played as Brett was landing at the Green Bay airport just before his trade to the Jets was arranged. My untrained-eye impression that evening: none of the three QBs completed many passes in the scrimmage, but the strongest, most decisive throws definitely came from Matt Flynn.

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    That second string guy was Brian Brohm — a second round draft pick the year Flynn was selected in the 7th — no doubt sitting at home now saying “why not me!?”

  163. badfish6907 says: Jan 2, 2012 12:45 PM

    Majik is defending Aaron Rodgers?

    Does this mean you are back in the fold after briefly turning to the dark side?

    If so, welcome back buddy!

  164. supersuckers3 says: Jan 2, 2012 1:00 PM

    majikbullet says:Jan 2, 2012 12:34 PM

    Frank Booth is spot on!!!

    For those cutting on Rodgers look into the Vikings season a little, Christian Ponder looked pretty good in his first start of the season too, but obviously that didn’t last too long. No film to gameplan against makes a lot of QBs look better than they are.
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    This has to be a joke. Folks this Majikbullet character was the biggest Packer Hater imaginable up until last year. This clown was calling for the firing of Thompson for EVER. He loathed Aaron Rodgers and stated he was a Viking fan because Favre was there and would remain one due to their superior front office. I’ll leave it at that. I knew he would be a Packer fan again. Just like I knew many other prognostications of my own would come true. With that I bid you a warm welcome back. Toota lu!

  165. 122u says: Jan 2, 2012 1:55 PM

    packerfanfordecades says:
    Jan 2, 2012 2:34 AM
    I’m going to guess that Ted Thompson is going to invent a way to get significant trade value for Matt Flynn while trying to keep him away from Minnesota and Chicago. It would be nice to see him land in the AFC, actually.

    Everyone seems to think they need to use the lousy franchise tag, they are assuming is for Finley on Flynn. I don’t think they will use it on either one. I honestly don’t think Finley is much more than a big WR who has dropsie problems. I prefer Crabtree over him for TE. Crabtree is an animal. He can block and catch. Maybe he’s not quite as quick at getting open but he can catch. We have many WR’s that are capable of getting open :) I see Finley being shown the door.
    Back to Flynn:
    I can definitely see TT working out a way to sign him and giving him an average starters contract. That is one way I can see them holding him for trade bait and the route I think Thompson will go with Flynn. Where do I think he might go? I think The Chiefs would be a good place. As far as Minnesota, I’d give him to Minnesota for Adrian Peterson :) Don’t be at all surprised if he ends up in Dallas, either. He was born and raised down there, Qb’d for the LSU Tigers and his family is in Texas. Believe me Texans love their own and he would be an immediate favorite with Tony Romo having another so-so season. The funny thing that most people don’t realize is Tony Romo is from Burlington Wi and played for Eastern Illinois. Romo for backup, lol. No, I’d rather keep Harrell and get a defensive stud or #1 draft pick from Dallas. Just a few thoughts, but #1 I’d definitely find a way to sign him so I could get value for him and I’m sure that’s what TT is thinking!

  166. majikbullet says: Jan 2, 2012 1:55 PM

    supersuckers3 says: Jan 2, 2012 1:00 PM

    majikbullet says:Jan 2, 2012 12:34 PM

    Frank Booth is spot on!!!

    For those cutting on Rodgers look into the Vikings season a little, Christian Ponder looked pretty good in his first start of the season too, but obviously that didn’t last too long. No film to gameplan against makes a lot of QBs look better than they are.
    ——

    This has to be a joke. Folks this Majikbullet character was the biggest Packer Hater imaginable up until last year. This clown was calling for the firing of Thompson for EVER. He loathed Aaron Rodgers and stated he was a Viking fan because Favre was there and would remain one due to their superior front office. I’ll leave it at that. I knew he would be a Packer fan again. Just like I knew many other prognostications of my own would come true. With that I bid you a warm welcome back. Toota lu!
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    Easy pal, I felt like you last year, and when they switched the system up last year and you had to re register I chose to take his name to get under his skin. Just relax, not the same guy!

  167. harleypuppy says: Jan 2, 2012 2:51 PM

    Aaron Rogers has 12 touchdown passes out of the pocket I guess that’s part of the system that you idiots are calling it he is truly the MVP I guess his performance in the super bowl was the system you still have to make all the throws and as for Brees he was still flinging the football against a terrible Bucs team padding the stats for sure

  168. ihateyoujeff says: Jan 2, 2012 3:47 PM

    I hear people saying Aaron Rodgers shouldn’t be MVP because Matt Flynn can do too and it’s just the team.

    Then I hear people saying Matt Flynn can be a starting QB on another team.

    Make up your minds.

  169. comeonnowguys says: Jan 2, 2012 7:07 PM

    It was one game.

    It’s not like Matt Cassell, who did it for a season.

  170. majikbullet says: Jan 2, 2012 7:27 PM

    comeonnowguys says: Jan 2, 2012 7:07 PM

    It was one game.

    It’s not like Matt Cassell, who did it for a season.
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    You are absolutely correct, but the majority of the ignorant posters on here don’t understand the game.

  171. 122u says: Jan 2, 2012 9:56 PM

    This post is almost done so I have one off-topic question for someone that may have watched the Rose Bowl. Not that Wisconsin deserved to win that game. Their defense reminded me of the Packers D on a very bad day :) But they had a slight chance at the end and didn’t take advantage of it. They got down to Oregons 20 yardline on a big first down with the clock ticking down to 2 seconds when it was stopped to reset the chains. Then Russel Wilson goes to snap the ball to the ground when the ref gave the signal to start the clock. By the time he gets the ball from the center and throws it to the ground game over time runs out!! For the life of me, why the hell would you do something so F’n stupid. If by some miracle he would have been lucky enough to beat the clock he would have had to fire a play into the endzone anyhow on the next play. Why wouldn’t you just call a quick play as you were lining up and when the ref gives the signal to start the clock, snap the ball and you have all the time in the world to throw the ball into the endzone for that miracle grab?? I don’t understand that one bit what they did. It seems like a major brainfart on someone’s part!

  172. majikbullet says: Jan 3, 2012 1:08 AM

    And why is it that no one acknowledge the fact the Packers only had one drop against the Lions which would be an anomaly for the Pack.

    The whole team was fired up and ready to play, everyone stepped up, including Flynn!

  173. packerfanfordecades says: Jan 3, 2012 3:04 AM

    122u — I agree with your analysis on the Badgers clock subject.

    I’m pretty much exclusively a pro NFL fan. So I’m curious … in the college game, is the QB’s helment equipped with sound from the coach? If so, then it’s on the coach.

    BTWay … I think Green Bay’s idea to delegate lots of offensive play calling to Aaron in last Sunday’s Lion’s game is a stroke of genius. It keeps Aaron razor sharp mentally. It shows tremendous humility on the part of the coach. Great teamwork. Great creativity. This Packer organization impresses on lots and lots of dimensions.
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  174. 122u says: Jan 3, 2012 10:46 AM

    Thank You Packerfan on the response,
    It was a frustrating way to see the Badgers go down, but I think the coach is guilty on that one.

    I totally agree with you on your analysis of McCarthy letting Rodgers do a lot of the playcalling with Flynn. That shows humility, trust and McCarthy acknowledging Rodgers is one very intelligent person.
    Not taking anything away from Flynn. He will be an outstanding QB in the NFL. But without Rodgers helping and encouraging him on the sidelines, he would not have had the success he did. They are both a great team, “partners in crime” both on and off the field.
    I just got done watching a taped Larry McCarren show. Flynn was the guest. He said him and Rodgers are best friends. Flynn said when he threw that 5th TD and came to the sidelines, Rodgers was laughing and joking with him. Rodgers said dude, you get the chance you have to go for #6! Flynn didn’t dissapoint him. That’s the kind of unselfish relationship those two have. That shows why Rodgers deserves to be MVP. He does so many unselfish things that go unnoticed. Without Rodgers guidance and help, Flynn would not have had the record breaking performance.
    It will be sad to see them split, but Flynn will make someone one great QB because he learned from the greatest.

  175. pencepost says: Jan 6, 2012 10:46 AM

    If your team needs a QB, and if they come at the same price, who would you rather go ofter this offseason – Matt Flynn or Robert Griffin III?

  176. jimmysee says: Jan 7, 2012 11:20 AM

    Matt Flynn will make himself and some team’s fanbase very happy this offseason!

    (Hope it’s in the AFC.)

    Go Pack Go!

  177. zatko says: Jan 7, 2012 12:00 PM

    Not that anyone will see this post… being 100 miles down the page on an old story but…

    This years Packer team reminds me of the 1998 Viking team that went 15-1. Unbelievably fun to watch Offense… no Defense.

    As a Viking then NFC North fan I say… “try to keep them off the field Aaron”.

    Go Pack and go Lions!

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