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Irsay views Manning’s future as “family decision” not “football decision”

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When the Polians were shown the door Monday, we guessed that Colts owner Jim Irsay was at least partially choosing Peyton Manning over the team’s front office.

If nothing else, it will make it easier to keep Manning on the roster if that’s what Irsay truly wants to do. And there is no bigger fan of Peyton Manning than Jim Irsay.

Speaking on NBC SportsTalk Monday, Peter King supported this notion.

He’s heard that Irsay views Manning’s future as a “family decision” and not a “football decision.”

So what does that mean?

“It means to me that Jimmy Irsay is going to give Peyton Manning his $28 million bonus unless one of two things happen: Manning absolutely can’t play football or Manning wants out,” King said. “So I think Irsay has essentially put the onus on himself to make that huge decision.”

It sets up an interesting scenario for the direction of the Colts franchise. Will Irsay only hire a general manager or coach that want to work with Manning? Then again, will many coaches and general managers not want to work with a healthy Manning if Irsay is playing the bill?

Manning’s health has been lost in all the speculation. We truly have no idea if he’ll ever play pro football again.

If Manning does play again, Irsay’s “family” approach to the business makes it more likely Manning will remain in Indianapolis.

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53 Responses to “Irsay views Manning’s future as “family decision” not “football decision””
  1. riverhorsey says: Jan 2, 2012 4:30 PM

    Irsay wants Manning to groom Luck the next two years while the Colts rebuild.

  2. joemontanawasthegreatest says: Jan 2, 2012 4:31 PM

    He has the coach in house: Jim Tressel.

  3. buffalion says: Jan 2, 2012 4:33 PM

    Hasn’t Manning restructured his contracts several times in order to resign guys and help the team? If so, seems like Irsay is just doing the right thing for a guy who put the organization first. No?

  4. badtimeoutcaldwell says: Jan 2, 2012 4:33 PM

    It’s a big risk, but the fact is with a functioning and healthy Manning, this team is a Superbowl contender next year. With Luck, we’ll be competing for the division, but not the SB.

    I think they should get both guys on the roster. Manning gives you 1 to 2 years of a Superbowl contender, and then after that Luck can give you the next 10-12 years of being a SB contender.

    Why not have best of both worlds??

  5. jacunn2000 says: Jan 2, 2012 4:34 PM

    They need an OC and a DC only. A head coach on this team is nothing more than a water boy for Manning. Let them draft Luck and let him sit behind Manning and learn for a couple of years.

  6. bawston1 says: Jan 2, 2012 4:34 PM

    LOL, a family decision…Smell that BS

  7. hmpennypacker says: Jan 2, 2012 4:35 PM

    I would think that if Irsay’s willing to pony up $28 mil there’s a good chance Payton will be ‘football healthy’ come September. Seems like the #1 pick is up for trade. I think that sound is Snyder’s speed dial!

  8. tmaczoozoo says: Jan 2, 2012 4:36 PM

    *hic*

  9. cobrala2 says: Jan 2, 2012 4:36 PM

    “We truly have no idea if he’ll ever play pro football again.”

    Exactly. A scary possibility that is closer to reality than most want to consider.

  10. mistrezzrachael says: Jan 2, 2012 4:37 PM

    Well, looks like price tag [ Miami, jets, Seattle,Minn & others] for Luck or RG3 just changed,,,alot.

    Irsay played his hand..where if [ big if] he was smart…could have rebuilt his team quickly.

  11. jimmysee says: Jan 2, 2012 4:38 PM

    A $27 million family decision, for next season anyway! Must be nice!

  12. rickincali says: Jan 2, 2012 4:38 PM

    I’d be freaked if I were a Colts fan. $28 million for a potentially permanently damaged broken-necked, over 30 QB and no viable backup. Add being hamstrung from picking your next franchise QB and you have a disaster. I’ll take business over “family” if I am a ticket holder. What a complete mess.

  13. jgo304 says: Jan 2, 2012 4:38 PM

    Personally I do not believe we will ever see Peyton Manning throwing NFL passes again.

    They will draft Luck with the #1 overall and rebuild.

    Peyton’s neck is shot and it is causing weakness in his arms he cannot make the throws any longer.

  14. jimmysee says: Jan 2, 2012 4:39 PM

    oops, sorry $28 million!

    But what’s a million to family?!

  15. bh83 says: Jan 2, 2012 4:41 PM

    Brian Urlacher thinks Peyton Manning is a good running back

  16. golonger says: Jan 2, 2012 4:41 PM

    I think the Pats should give serious consideration to obtaining Manning as a back-up to Brady….he could at least see close-up what it is like to win in the clutch and he might learn a thing or 2…LOL

  17. danospleasanton says: Jan 2, 2012 4:41 PM

    I Manning cannot play Colts should make him the HC. I’m dead serious. We all know he has been the Head Coach on the field. Hire a good O/C + D/C and go.

  18. adx321 says: Jan 2, 2012 4:42 PM

    “mistrezzrachael says: Jan 2, 2012 4:37 PM

    Well, looks like price tag [ Miami, jets, Seattle,Minn & others] for Luck or RG3 just changed,,,alot.

    Irsay played his hand..where if [ big if] he was smart…could have rebuilt his team quickly.”

    How has the value of the first pick changed at all?

    It hasn’t. Those teams are still drooling for Andrew Luck and he’s property of the Colts until they or he say otherwise.

  19. dburgoyne says: Jan 2, 2012 4:43 PM

    A 36 year old quarterback who has been out of the game for a year, and might never return to his old level of excellence. Moreover, the Colts aren’t close to being a championship caliber team….Yeah sign him up for 28 large Jimmy…..smart family business decision. Living in the past.

  20. gamermwm says: Jan 2, 2012 4:45 PM

    We all know that noone else can do what Peyton does when he’s healthy…and that any QB you draft is a possible bust

    So I agree 100% with keeping Manning

  21. insider7 says: Jan 2, 2012 4:52 PM

    Family decision? Are we talking about Jim Irsay or Dr. Phil? This is a business so make the business decision.

    This guy is soft as a grape.

  22. 6thsense79 says: Jan 2, 2012 4:52 PM

    buffalion says:Jan 2, 2012 4:33 PM

    Hasn’t Manning restructured his contracts several times in order to resign guys and help the team? If so, seems like Irsay is just doing the right thing for a guy who put the organization first. No?
    ————————————————–
    Maybe….but if you want to maintain success in a cut throat business like pro football you really can’t be sentimental…..Besides Payton collected something like $16 million and didn’t provide anything at all on the field for it. Worse (and this isn’t really his fault) he took up a much needed roster spot rather than the team putting him on IR due to sentimental reasons. Next year he’s going to cost the Colts another $25 million and there’s a possibility he may not play. No team in the NFL can survive having their salary cap restricted and that much money tied up and to a player who can’t produce. This isn’t the NBA or MLB.

    The best case for the Colts would be to have Peyton restructure his contract down to a manageable level for next year….maybe $10 million base and the rest as easy to achieve incentives such as getting another 3 million if he plays 30% of the team’s snaps, + another 5 million if he plays 60% and so on.

  23. stevenfbrackett says: Jan 2, 2012 4:54 PM

    Manning has said he would know when is time to say ‘When’.

    Mr Manning, it’s a little after When o’clock.

  24. KIR says: Jan 2, 2012 4:55 PM

    Trading or releasing Peyton before Luck takes a snap would be the worst decision in NFL history. Anyone who thinks Luck is guaranteed to be a pro bowl Hall Famer is not a believer in the history of the NFL. The fact is that 1st round QB’s are at best a 50/50 bet. Peyton Manning is a once in a lifetime QB. It took 20 years before Cam Newton broke his rookie records. This year there were only 5 Franchise QB’s who have taken their team to the Super Bowl. Rodgers, Brady, Brees and Roethlisberger E. Manning (inconsistent). 2 of those QB’s were not 1st rounders and Rodgers almost slipped to the 2nd round. That means 27 other teams are still looking and that’s about 12 years of drafts. Ride Peyton until the wheels run off

  25. souldogdave says: Jan 2, 2012 4:55 PM

    What this means is Peyton has a chance to go out an already wealthy hero. Or come back as damaged goods in his mid-30’s. Usually the latter course of action diminishes the reputation of the athlete. Irsay is trusting Peyton’s pride and character not to mention judgement. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Peyton defer the bonus until the draft, actually. Just so they can play it up and keep us guessing. Until the payoff or the draft, anyone’s guess

  26. adx321 says: Jan 2, 2012 5:01 PM

    “golonger says: Jan 2, 2012 4:41 PM

    I think the Pats should give serious consideration to obtaining Manning as a back-up to Brady….he could at least see close-up what it is like to win in the clutch and he might learn a thing or 2…LOL”

    He’d need to go to another team than cuz the Pats haven’t won a playoff game in 4 years lol

  27. cw3214 says: Jan 2, 2012 5:08 PM

    If Peyton is close to 100% then stick with him. Did we all forget how he carved updefenses the past decade?

  28. sterilizecromartie says: Jan 2, 2012 5:17 PM

    I am a Colts fan. I love Peyton Manning, but the best thing for both sides is to let him go elsewhere. Has anyone watched this team this year? They were awful. Peyton alone can’t fix the problems this team has. They need to rebuild the entire team and it starts with Andrew Luck. Draft him…. Start him right away…. Let him take his lumps early on and learn… just like Peyton did. Then enjoy another decade of success with an all-pro QB.

    And Peyton deserves to play for a contender in the 2-3 years he has left. They should show him respect and work with him and work with other teams to create a fair trade for all. Look at the Jets. I’m sure they would give up a few high draft picks to have Peyton replace Sanchez. Peyton on that team with that defense would make them an immediate contender for a title. Win-win-win.

  29. lilrob10201 says: Jan 2, 2012 5:20 PM

    I always wanted to know how did Peyton Manning injur his neck in the first place ?

  30. supremeomega says: Jan 2, 2012 5:20 PM

    @KIR

    Let’s be realistic. He is a great QB but father time always wins. Hopefully he can play and will restructure the deal allowing him to groom Luck and get some FA’s but we cant assume Manning will come back and go 4000/35-13/95.0 he is a human being not god…

  31. dopeonthetable says: Jan 2, 2012 5:21 PM

    As I have said along, Peyton plus a huge package of picks is worth much more to the organization than Andrew Luck and no picks.

    Its going to be traded.

    Its not a good situation to put Luck on a team with Manning. None of the parties will be cool with that.

  32. nupicasso says: Jan 2, 2012 5:22 PM

    Having Manning does not make this a playoff team. People forget that this team was picked to be pretty mediocre this season before anyone knew Peyton would be out. They’re just not that good. Yes, Peyton makes them better, but he’s not a miracle worker. Even with him I venture a guess that they barely squeak out 9 wins next season… And that’s being bold. The Texans are going to win that division next year with a healthy team.

  33. jpak12 says: Jan 2, 2012 5:32 PM

    Even if they keep Manning getting Luck and building around him should be priority number one. Fans do not want to believe it but even with Manning this team is not competing for a Superbowl, they were only 10-6 last year and The Texans with a healthy Shcaub and Johnson have surpassed them at this point. If Manning wantes to stay with the team and help good for him, help out the team that has built the team for your success having Wayne, Clark, Edge, spending the money to keep Harrison, and bring in Stokely was done to benefit Manning, and probably hurt the team in the long run. If Manning doesn’t want a new QB around then good riddence go to a team that is willing to pay your gigantic contract.

  34. vincespowersweep says: Jan 2, 2012 5:34 PM

    So, Peyton is running the Colts now?

  35. sterilizecromartie says: Jan 2, 2012 5:47 PM

    vincespowersweep says:Jan 2, 2012 5:34 PM

    So, Peyton is running the Colts now?
    ——
    He’s been running the Colts for the past decade. Where have you been?

  36. 1bucplace says: Jan 2, 2012 5:59 PM

    I am absolutely AMAZED at the overwhelming majority of comments here posted in support of simply throwing Peyton Manning under the bus. Peyton – the greatest QB to ever play the game at any level in any generation.

    To the comments (ignorant, I believe) that seem to suggest that paying Peyton the $28.3 million next season is a blown investment, consider this:

    Peyton has built that empire in little Ol’ Indianapolis. Are you KIDDING me?!

    Look into how much Peyton has SINGLE-HANDEDLY earned for the Irsay “family”. He is the best thing that has happened for Jim Irsay since his father snuck the team out of Baltimore in the middle of the night. No other player has ever meant more to a franchise than Peyton has over the last 14 years.

    The expenses that Jim Irsay will have invested to keep Peyton on his team, while he battles his VERY FIRST sidelining injury (let’s not forget that before his neck surgery he was chasing Favre’s all-time starting streak, for crying out loud!), is a SMALL PRICE to pay for all that Peyton has earned for Irsay’s “family” AND for the community of Indianapolis. And at the end of the day, he still comes out way ahead. He has earned that money, more than anyone else has for a team. And the odds are actually extremely good that he comes back the best, just like Brady did after missing an entire season before throwing for a record setting 50 touchdowns in a season. Peyton isn’t finished yet; you’ll see.

    It just shows me that Irsay is smart (there is simply no reason to believe that Peyton WON’T come back in top form) and that he is actually a man of integrity, which is more than most can say about his dad.

    There are many ignorant comments here made by way too many non-educated, non-football fans. For example, it humors me to hear so many comments about Peyton becoming the offensive coordinator or a QB coach. Lol! If he made $26 million this year and $28 million next year, do any of you actually believe that he will come back to earn a million or less per year? Are you SERIOUS?!

  37. frankiefiveangels says: Jan 2, 2012 6:01 PM

    By “family decision” Irsay means Peyton and Archie Manning, because old Archie has more sway with Irsay than Polian.

  38. ninefingers9 says: Jan 2, 2012 6:02 PM

    Family decision instead of football?

    That’s why the colts won’t be back to the SB in the near future!

  39. Wisconsin77 says: Jan 2, 2012 6:04 PM

    buffalion says: Jan 2, 2012 4:33 PM
    Hasn’t Manning restructured his contracts several times in order to resign guys and help the team? If so, seems like Irsay is just doing the right thing for a guy who put the organization first. No?

    Yeah, and Manning got a raise out of it every time. So Manning helped out the team, but did not sacrifice a thing. He deserves no credit for that.

  40. zonedogz says: Jan 2, 2012 6:08 PM

    Colts sucked for Luck and next year will suck with Luck.

  41. bullcharger says: Jan 2, 2012 6:09 PM

    rickincali says:Jan 2, 2012 4:38 PM

    I’d be freaked if I were a Colts fan. $28 million for a potentially permanently damaged broken-necked, over 30 QB and no viable backup. Add being hamstrung from picking your next franchise QB and you have a disaster. I’ll take business over “family” if I am a ticket holder. What a complete mess.

    ———————

    It’s not a mess at all. If Polian wanted to ditch Manning he’s an idiot and it’s good that he’s gone. The best course of action is to get Luck (who could be a bust, just like any draft pick) and groom him under Manning and try to win with Manning, who is one of the to 10 players in league history. If he’s not healthy you have Luck. If Manning is still great and looks like you can get 5 years out of him, then you might even trade Luck later for some good free agents and draft picks. The signing bonus is only money… who cares if Manning gets that. Irsay doesn’t seem to care. This is the greatest position a team could ever be in.

  42. hmpennypacker says: Jan 2, 2012 6:38 PM

    Love the opinions this news has bought out!

    There are lots of scenarios that can play out here. No one knows if Peyton’s playing next year or not as we don’t know what state his neck is in.

    Firing Caldwell isn’t the end of offensive continuity as Clyde Christensen is the OC so he may be kept on. This isn’t unheard of; Mike Tomlin doesn’t run the cover 2 with the Steelers, remember? The $28 mil isn’t payable to Peyton until the first few days of the next league year, with starts in March. AND Manning has restructured before so who’s to say he won’t do it again?

    I see two options for the Colts; if Manning’s healthy and they want to keep that offense as they’re identity draft Luck. If Mannings not healthy, and Irsay’s not fussed about the teams identity, trade the pick for more picks and draft RG3. They still get a qb and more picks to plug more holes.

  43. taco87 says: Jan 2, 2012 6:39 PM

    Colts fans who thing manning is a god are funny and yes he chased farves record and deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as him. Not by a long shot should be be concidered to be the best qb ever most of his stats camped padded from playing in a weak ass division. Yeah he wins a lot but one Super Bowl and he’s the greatest get real. He’s had his ass handed to him routinely by Tom Brady. And Brady is the only current qb to be considered in the category of best ever but still loses to this guy named joe Montana clutch people. Wins over stats all day playoff and Super Bowl wins count the most which Payton couldn’t do. And he never took pay cuts to helP the team he bled them dry all the time that’s why they have always been offensive with no defense. Now Tom Brady has taken pay cuts to get talent on his team and I’m a 49ers fan.

  44. golonger says: Jan 2, 2012 9:36 PM

    1bucplace – Manning is FAR from the greatest…PLEASE. Manning is an over-rated choke artist who consistently could not deliver in the clutch. Sorry, he isn’t even top 25 of all-time….only to dopey Indy fans….LOL. How can a QB Possibly be the greatest with a mediocre playoff record (not even .500)….give me a freakin break…..and of course, you’ll use the typical excuse…it is a team sport. Amazing how it is a team sport when discussing his playoff debacles yet during the season, it is all him.

    He’s not even thre greatest QB in the history of the Colts much less the NFL…the greatest QB in Colts history has a statue erected outside ANOTHER teams stadium!!!!!!

    ..and you all need to wake up…the Colts CANNOT afford to have both Manning AND Luck….not happening…..

  45. 1historian says: Jan 2, 2012 11:27 PM

    Fans of the BALTIMORE COLTS, like me, are enjoying this.

    Stats mean less than nothing – the only thing that counts is rings and if you can’t even win 50% of the playoff games you play in you just AIN;T

    That having been said: I don’t like Peyton Manning but I do admire him and I wish he could retire because IMO he is one good hit away from making his HOF acceptance sitting in a wheelchair and that would be terrible.

  46. 1historian says: Jan 2, 2012 11:30 PM

    Fans of the BALTIMORE COLTS, like me, are enjoying this.

    Stats mean less than nothing – the only thing that counts is rings – It don’t mean a thing if you ain’t got that ring. (And it does help if you can win at least 50% of the playoff games you play in.)

    That having been said: I don’t like Peyton Manning but I do admire him and I wish he could retire because IMO he is one good hit away from making his HOF acceptance sitting in a wheelchair and that would be terrible.

  47. shasta75 says: Jan 3, 2012 12:49 AM

    riverhorsey says:
    Jan 2, 2012 4:30 PM
    Irsay wants Manning to groom Luck the next two years while the Colts rebuild.

    supremeomega says:
    Jan 2, 2012 5:20 PM

    Let’s be realistic. He is a great QB but father time always wins. Hopefully he can play and will restructure the deal allowing him to groom Luck.

    These Sandusky cracks, on this post in particular (about the future prospects of a first-ballot HOF quarterback, one of the greatest to play the game, and his value to the ownership of the team), are disgusting and uncalled for. You two should be ashamed.

  48. cubear34 says: Jan 3, 2012 1:02 AM

    Don’t know what to add here. I think it has all been said. One superbowl win … honestly, the bears would have won if not for sexy rexy. Afc south is and was pathetic. Which makes it more surprising that the colts could only manage a 2 win season.

  49. discosucs2005 says: Jan 3, 2012 2:13 AM

    “but if you want to maintain success in a cut throat business like pro football you really can’t be sentimental”

    While I agree with your implication that sentimentality is the enemy of logical decision making, I think you’re over simplifying. How a team treats it’s players is known to other pros. Teams that treat their players, coaches, or staff poorly will be less likely to retain good people, or bring in new people.

    Oakland is a fine example of this. Getting a good coach to come, or stay, in Oakland has proved difficult because of the way Al Davis tended to treat coaches.

    “the Colts CANNOT afford to have both Manning AND Luck”

    I believe this is incorrect. I’m not a salary cap expert, so I hope someone corrects me (with facts that include a link to evidence (that means the person who posted this should not be the one correcting me)) if I’m wrong, but I believe the Colts can afford both Manning’s, and a first round pick’s contract on the roster and still be under the cap.

    Even assuming that is true, it is still a problem though. It will make it very tough to rebuild a team with a lot of money devoted to one spot on the depth chart. The Colts should only keep Luck if they really believe he is the future. If there is even the slightest doubt, he should be traded. Same goes for Manning with injuries. Any doubt that he can’t play, they need to move the money out so they can pay one QB and try to rebuild the rest of the team.

    “Sorry, [Manning] isn’t even top 25 of all-time”

    Top 25 what? There aren’t even 25 other QBs that have won a Super Bowl.

    26 QBs (counting Peyton) have won it all. There are 14 that have multiple Super Bowl rings, and only 11 of those as starters. Of the people that have only one ring, three have stats comparable to Manning’s career, and single season accomplishments: Dan Marino, Brett Favre, and Steve Young. If you were to put Manning behind all those people, he would be at 15 all time.

    Even the most ridiculous person couldn’t put Manning out side the top 20, and you put him outside the top 25? Please share your list of the top 25 Quarterbacks of all time. I don’t even know if you could find 25 players better at their position than Manning.

    Manning’s probably top 5, and many believe top ever.

  50. vincespowersweep says: Jan 3, 2012 7:39 AM

    sterilizecromartie says: Jan 2, 2012 5:47 PM

    vincespowersweep says:Jan 2, 2012 5:34 PM

    So, Peyton is running the Colts now?
    ——
    He’s been running the Colts for the past decade. Where have you been?

    I take it the word “sarcasm” isn’t in your vocabulary.

  51. golonger says: Jan 3, 2012 9:17 PM

    “I believe the Colts can afford both Manning’s, and a first round pick’s contract on the roster and still be under the cap.”

    Not the point, yes they COULD do it but they SHOULDNT do it….if they have are paying both and only one can be out there, they are essentially doing what they have done for 10 years…and to a greater degree….over-paying for one position with an equal return.

    “I don’t even know if you could find 25 players better at their position than Manning. Manning’s probably top 5, and many believe top ever.”

    Sorry wrong…your analysis is moronic….Manning is a choker, has a mediocre playoff record…and history will show his yards are the result of the “super” live ball era…which is already proving correct….(see Brees and Brady)

    Manning isn’t even a top 5 QB CURRENTLY much less in history…….!!!!!

  52. golonger says: Jan 3, 2012 9:23 PM

    Anyone that thinks Manning is the best ever is a football nitwit….plain and simple!…..he’s not even close!

  53. cserisey says: Jan 6, 2012 7:39 PM

    I am a HUGE Colts fan and I look forward to the addition of Andrew Luck to the family. I wish Peyton was in better condition but I’m afraid i may be dreaming. He would be a great OC or HC. I hope he can stay with the Colts in the future.

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