Tebow has more upside and is a winner since grade school.

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Your man crush is showing – and not in a good way…

And no way the Packers tag Flynn; the cost is too high and it would be inconsistent with the way Ted operates…

If you think Hasselbeck was a “game-manager,” you are completely out of your mind!

Game-managers don’t endure 10 yr stretches as the unheralded starting QB of a franchise like Hasselbeck endured.

And more poignantly, in 2007 when the running game is virtually non-existent, the head coach doesn’t openly declare that the fate of the season falls squarely on the arm of a “game-manager.”

And during said season, “game-managers” don’t answer the call and lead their team to the playoffs. Not to mention, a postseason victory.

Matt Hasselbeck is an above-average, very underrated QB who never got the full amount of credit and ink as you would think when you go back and actually look at his efficiency and numbers over the years.

So you can take that game-manager stuff and apply it elsewhere…cuz it don’t fit with Hass, buddy!

No reason Flynn couldn’t do the same.

Miami needs him. St. Louis may need him, and actually, he’d probably be better for Denver than overrated Teblow. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Vikings TRY to make a big push for him. I’m betting SOMEONE pulls the trigger on Flynn come Draft time, or possibly in March when we put the tag on.

Hopefully an early 1st rounder too. Wynn is OK, but we need a big, pass rushing Right End.

–Brett Favre

Peter King calls it a system QB but more correctly stated the Green Bay Packers have a great team with the best group of receivers in the NFL which will make any QB look better.

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You take a look across that Saints team receiving corp along with TE Jimmy Graham and tell me the Saints aren’t right there, or even a hair better…especially with Jennings hurt and the Saints using Sproles out wide and on kick return where Cobb and Nelson have been there for the Packers.

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play4blood says:Jan 4, 2012 8:36 AM

4. Did Flynn cost Rodgers MVP votes? Possibly. But not enough that he won’t share the award with Drew Brees, which is what should happen anyway.

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Any sportswriter/voter with a brain in his head knows Brees had a killer season, but also knows he plays in a girly dome against the NFC South, which is is a fairly weak division…and in warm weather consistently. Look at any current 2011 strength of schedule and the Saints have the 20th, while the Packers are 29th or 30th. (Steelers 15th too, wtf?)

Then, compare the WR and RB depth and weapons and solid O-line of what the Saints have versus what the Packers have (or don’t have) and then try to reason rationally that Brees is actually the MVP……not a flippin’ chance.

2. You absolutely franchise this guy. As QB starved as this league is, Flynn would bring some good compensation. A pair of 2nd round picks is the absolute bottom end of what they should get for him.

3. The bigger risk is the chance you take on Jermichael Finley seeking greener pastures. Green Bay should go ahead and make him the league’s highest paid TE and nip that risk in the bud.

4. Did Flynn cost Rodgers MVP votes? Possibly. But not enough that he won’t share the award with Drew Brees, which is what should happen anyway.

When will these alleged “experts” just give Rodgers credit where credit is due? He’s one of the best QBs in the league, if not THE best. His accuracy, efficiency, and leadership have proven this over and over again. Hopefully the Packers fans won’t boo Rodgers again at training camp in 2012.

Flynn I believe also won the Championship with LSU in his only starting College season. He has a tremendous QB coach and leader in Rodgers. He has learned well over the last 2-3 years earning every opportunity while learning from the best. He has demonstrated in pre-seasons as well as against the Lions and New England that he can run with the big dogs.

I for one (if in Ted Thompsons shoes) sign Finley and Tag Flynn. As others said even if you get 2 seconds or 2 thirds. Going all the way back to last year NO QUESTION that teams want him.

If your willing to follow the path of many unsuccessful GM’s over the years drafting how many QB’s in the first round and paying way more than you would for Flynn, then why not try a different path when 90% of the Rookie QB’s don’t make it at the next level. Let alone how many NFL QB’s have ever thrown for 480 yards and 6 TD’s in one game in their entire career?????

Rack it Baby!!!

2) The eventual trading team would have to give up TWO first round draft picks to the Packers, not just one…

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Who says the Packers have to trade him for 2 first round picks? Did they trade their franchised DT Corey Williams for 2 first rounders? NO. If a team signs him to an offer sheet in free agency, they do. If a team trades for his rights, they (the Packers and said team) can haggle over compensation.

I would bet Flynn gets franchised, and traded for a 1st and 3rd or 2 2nds just like Schaub. He has clearly learned how to QB at the NFL caliber. He has a ton of upside and talent. Ask the Chargers if they would have rather traded a pair of 2nd rounders for aguy like Flynn or traded to get a player with potential in Ryan Leaf.

As for Flynn, he’s probably more likely to rely on the Packer system for success than his own traits. Not as strong of an arm, mobility isn’t quite like Rodgers’. He’s a good QB, but overall we haven’t seen enough to justify calling him outstanding. Nor have we seen enough to dis-credit him with the label “system QB”. Time will tell. Unless a deal with another team can be worked out ahead of time, I say just let him walk. $14.5M is just too much to risk.

I’d like see him in week 10 against the 49ers or ravens with 9 weeks of film on him
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This is idiotic. No one has tape on him? He ran the exact same offense Rodgers run. Rodgers was even calling the plays. The Lions have played Green Bay often enough to know what they like to do. Lousy excuse.

Stellar O-line? Are you insane? If Rodgers didn’t have the fastest release in the NFL he’d be sacked twice as often. Their line is OK when they’re all healthy, but they’re seriously banged up. Only 2 starting linemen (Wells and Sitton) played their natural positions. Clifton played for a quarter and that was his first quarter in 2 months. They had a backup (Newhouse) at left tackle. One of their guards (Lang) had to play right tackle in place of the injured starter (Bulaga), and another backup (Dietrich-Smith) filled in for him at guard.

Not exactly “stellar.”

“Most successful NFL QBs never been to a national championship game.”

Right. My point is that winning a national championship doesn’t mean that a guy will necessarily be a good NFL quarterback. Tebow is not a good NFL quarterback, in spite of his national championship.

I forgot who leads the NFL in yards per attempt by a huge amount. Can anyone help me out?

Doesn’t excuse the Kevin Kolb deal or some of the other backups signed as starter flops mentioned here (Doug Pedersen comes to mind – wait, not every Green Bay quarterback leaves Brett Favre’s shadow and becomes a Pro Bowler?).

Matt Hasselbeck made zero starts as a Packer, and he ended up having a pretty decent career.

Just saying.

We can see what you just said no need to say just saying when we can clearly read.

Every successful quarterback is in a good system; that goes without saying. But Rodgers, Brees, Manning, and Brady make the throws that only a small percentage of guys can make. That’s what makes them elite. If you watched all of Rodgers games this year you would see that. The guy throws 45 touchdowns and 6 interceptions in 15 games. The system is successful because he makes the throws with limited mistakes.

Ofcourse when you throw the ball 5-10 yards 90% of the time you are going to have inflated ratings.