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Lurie hints Reid will be on the hot seat in 2012

Jeffrey Lurie AP

Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie met with the media on Tuesday, only two days after the conclusion to the 2011 regular season.  After an extensive explanation that at one point seemed like it could result in an announcement of a termination, Lurie announced that coach Andy Reid will be back.

But Lurie’s comments make clear that Lurie expects more in 2012.  “If I didn’t think next year would be substantially better, I’d be standing up here announcing a coaching change,” Lurie said.

In other words, if it’s not what Lurie thinks it will be in 2012, Lurie very well could be making a change.

Bolstering the notion that Reid faces an up-or-out mandate in 2012 is the fact that Lurie explained that his assessment of Reid included an acknowledgement that, after each of the prior seasons when the Eagles failed to get to the playoffs, they made it the very next year.

Before stating that Reid will stay, Lurie used various strong words — multiple times each — to express his feelings regarding the failure to qualify for the postseason.  From “disappointing” to “anger” to “frustration” to “unacceptable” to “dismal” to “unfathomable,” Lurie seemed to be using the press conference as an occasion to vent, even if his words seemed far stronger than his demeanor.

During questioning from the assembled media, Lurie spent time defending the perception that Reid is arrogant, based on his manner of communicating with the press.  Lurie said that Reid’s approach to interviews and press conferences comes from a desire to protect his players, and that Reid communicates in a far different manner with his players and other members of the organization.  Lurie actually praised Reid for sacrificing popularity in order to protect his players, but Lurie acknowledged that Reid can find a way to protect his players without sacrificing popularity.

Though Lurie didn’t go out of his way to protect Reid on Tuesday, Lurie made clear that he continues to believe in the man who has coached the team since 1999.  With a 14th year secured, whether Reid makes it to a 15th season will depend on what he does in 2012.

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  1. weepingjebus says: Jan 3, 2012 3:11 PM

    Eh. Can we get back to the Jets? This makes me feel like we’re discussing a traffic accident while the Hindenburg burns in the background.

  2. aosplayo says: Jan 3, 2012 3:11 PM

    Ugh…..

    The first part of this season is unacceptable.

    But we’re going to stay the status quo……..

    I hate this team

  3. thatobnoxiousguy says: Jan 3, 2012 3:11 PM

    Getting sick of all the Philly “fans” that want Reid gone. He is the best coach you people have had. Would you rather have Norv Turner, Jim Caldwell, or Jason Garrett as your freakin coach?

  4. djstat says: Jan 3, 2012 3:11 PM

    Jabba the Hut gets spared again

  5. sj39 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:13 PM

    “Dream Team”.

  6. jpb12 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:13 PM

    So… Eagles media think Reid should be more like Rex

  7. tomcan8 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:14 PM

    And boom goes the dynamite

  8. sasquash20 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:15 PM

    What a spine less, no balls, wormburner Lurie is. Well I know one team that won’t win the Super Bowl next season…That is right the Philadelphia Eagles. Way to have a set Lurie you pillow biter.

  9. upperdecker19 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:15 PM

    Fuego Juan!

  10. checkforecheck says: Jan 3, 2012 3:15 PM

    Typical article slant. I watched that entire thing myself and not once did he hint Reid is on the hot seat. Even the quotes you pulled don’t hint that.

    You can’t just be a news source? Be a better reporter.

  11. brettfavresmidget says: Jan 3, 2012 3:17 PM

    One more screw up like that, and Jeffy will have the “Centuwian thwo him to the gwound vewy wuffwy.”

  12. vbe2 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:17 PM

    You’re leaving out the part where he said that Andy would at least complete his 2 years left on his contract.

  13. uncledick says: Jan 3, 2012 3:18 PM

    What scares me as an Eagles fan is that if this year was an “adjustment” year and next year turns out to be a failure, then we will fall into another adjustment year due to new coaching. Scary thought, a lot is hinging on the 2012-13 season..

  14. sasquash20 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:18 PM

    I only hope some crazy fan kidnaps Lurie’s wife and Reid’s wife only to force both Reid and Lurie out. I do have a physical next week, maybe if they find something terminal I’ll do it. Bring back the Kelly Green as well.

  15. sdffa11 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:19 PM

    “Bolstering the notion that Reid faces an up-or-out mandate in 2012 is the fact that Lurie explained that his assessment of Reid included an acknowledgement that, after each of the prior seasons when the Eagles failed to get to the playoffs, they made it the very next year.”

    SO WHEN DID WE GO FROM A “SUPER BOWL GOAL” TO BEING SATISFIED WITH THE PLAYOFFS?

  16. brettfavresmidget says: Jan 3, 2012 3:19 PM

    thatobnoxiousguy says:
    Jan 3, 2012 3:11 PM
    Getting sick of all the Philly “fans” that want Reid gone. He is the best coach you people have had. Would you rather have Norv Turner, Jim Caldwell, or Jason Garrett as your freakin coach?
    __________________________________

    These are the same fans who wanted McNabb run out of town…boy, that one bit them in the bu…oh, wait…my bad, the fans were right on that one.

  17. opiedamus says: Jan 3, 2012 3:19 PM

    Absolute proof that 2 people can watch the same thing and, yet, take away 2 completely different opinions. Mr. Lurie did not “hint” that Reid would be on the hot seat. He answered a question in regards to what his expectations are moving forward and, more importantly, what he used to assess Reid as the coach after a very disappointing season.

    Using your controversy tinted bifocals, his statement at the end indicating that “no coach lasts forever and that he would explore the same avenue to hire the next coach as he did with Reid,” would mean that he’s already targeting some position coaches to succeed Reid in 2013.

    Saying all that, this guy continues to show why he is a fans’ owner.

  18. transeuropeexpress says: Jan 3, 2012 3:20 PM

    Listening to the presser, I felt like the emotions he was describing–“frustration,” “anger,” etc–were designed primarily to placate Eagles fans who, rightly or wrongly, think Laurie is disinterested in their feelings.

    But as someone who grew up in Philadelphia (and still listens to Philly sports radio), I can say that the presser will go over like a lead balloon. Laurie’s style is so antithetical to Philadelphia style: he’s too slick for them, too dispassionate about things, too forced in his efforts to convince fans that he feels their pain.

    The real questions will be about Castillo and Washburn. Laurie sang Castillo’s praises, but he was noncommittal about his future, saying that it is up to Reid. IMO, the change has to happen.

  19. dachozen1 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:20 PM

    I have an idea. PAY DA MAN!!! If one of your stars isnt happy, then that lockerroom will suffer. Either pay Desean or let him go. It’s not fair to the players or Desean holding him hostage and susceptible to an injury that can end his career without big payday.

  20. bdawk20 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:22 PM

    Lurie told everyone that this was an unacceptable season and that it was dismal and there are no excuses, but he does not hold ANYONE ACCOUNTABLE.

    Why do we do not want Andy Reid back? Because he has had the most talented teams in the league (4 NFC Championship Games) and has blundered away his opportunities! Not to mention this year, go talk to Jim Harbaugh who turned around a bad 49ers team in no time.

  21. bdawk20 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM

    vbe2 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:17 PM

    You’re leaving out the part where he said that Andy would at least complete his 2 years left on his contract.
    ____________________________________

    I think (err hope) he was saying that he was not going to extend Reid.

  22. transeuropeexpress says: Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM

    Sorry. “Lurie.” Derp.

  23. aosplayo says: Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM

    Yes Reid is the best coach in franchise history.

    Mcnabb was also the best QB in franchise history, and clearly the fans were right.

    The National media and fans have no clue what is happening with our football team.

  24. demo3356 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:24 PM

    Yes! Looking forward to a 14th Lombardiless season for The EaGirls with Cheese Steak Charlie running the Show.. Hope He keeps George Lopez as his DC and doesn’t do anything smart like hire Spagnoula to run his defense…

  25. phillybirds says: Jan 3, 2012 3:27 PM

    ANDY REID SUPPORTERS

    Who would we rather have? I dont know. But what happens when he finally is done coaching. Are we supposed to withdraw ourselves from the NFL because we dont have anyone better than Reid to select?

  26. bobbyhoying says: Jan 3, 2012 3:28 PM

    Lurie sounded like the intelligent businessman he is, not like some clueless fan from Philly. He made a rational decision and held a rational press conference. He went after the goofy reporter who accused Reid of being arrogant. If I were Reid I’d go to San Diego where I’m sure he’d be welcomed with open arms. Philly does not deserve him, and that comes from an Eagles fan who remebers 1960.

  27. salmen76 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:28 PM

    This is crazy. I can’t believe the Eagles kept Reid as long as they have. In my opinion he is the most overrated coach in the league. He’s coached their for 13 years and has Zero Super Bowl wins. His teams have never been good and consistant at the same time. His teams have been midlin at best. I thought he was a sure gonner after this years debacle. Oh well, i’m glad he ain’t my teams coach and as long as he’s the Eagles coach i won’t have to worry about the Eagles ever beating the saints in the playoffs, EVER! Ha Ha! Geaux Saints!

  28. timasahh says: Jan 3, 2012 3:32 PM

    obnoxiousguy, most Philly fans realize that Reid is probably our best option at coach, but the fact of the matter is we’ve all been sitting around for 13 years watching the Eagles continue to lose. It’s not about going and getting someone better; it’s about going and getting someone different. The definition of insanity as passed onto us simpletons by the regime that is the Eagles FO is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. The Eagles have been doing the same thing, with the same problems, since 1999 and the only thing that’s changed is that now we don’t even get a championship game dangled in front of our face before they go home.

    This is a situation akin to when people wanted McNabb to go. Sure, he was probably better than Kolb, but fans are ready to take a chance just to see something different. It adds a new bit of excitement to the old formula we’re all getting tired of watching — namely, big expectations that end in, “I need to do a better job. I’ll go back to the tapes and assess that.” It’s the same old, tired formula week after week. It may be better than what else is out there right now, but it’s not good enough to get us over the hump. It’s better to take a chance than sit comfortably on failure.

    Just to make myself clear though, by taking a chance, I don’t mean seeing if our OL coach can be Defensive Coordinator.

  29. agnosticjesus says: Jan 3, 2012 3:33 PM

    No wonder Saturday Night Live has sucked for years. Lorne Michaels has been too busy being the owner of the Eagles.

  30. donny05 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:33 PM

    Eagles fans were right about McNabb and will be proven right after next year about Reid. Dungy was a good coach in Tampa, but they needed Gruden to get over the hump. Same thing here i

  31. emmac13 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:35 PM

    He will be in Cleveland in 2013 after Shurmur makes more dumb mistakes.

  32. brettfavresmidget says: Jan 3, 2012 3:35 PM

    aosplayo says:
    Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM
    Yes Reid is the best coach in franchise history.

    Mcnabb was also the best QB in franchise history, and clearly the fans were right.

    The National media and fans have no clue what is happening with our football team.

    ____________________________

    I had to give it a thumbs down because the best coach in franchise history had the nickname Greasy. Other than that, you are correct.

  33. hotpappyjohnson says: Jan 3, 2012 3:35 PM

    im a diehard bird fan and philly resident but the arrogance is not in reid, its in every mongloid eagle fan – who ive grown to despise. guess im an uncle tom- that believes the organization gives a F what the fans think. sorry to break the news but santas not real and you have no influence on team decisions no matter how much you throw fits, whine, cry, complain and chant “fire andy”.on top of that i havent heard 1 good idea on a reid replacement out of these same mouths

  34. gryphon1989 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:37 PM

    Christmas F-ing Hercules! Andy Reid hangs another 2nd place banner in his office! There is a 3rd world country with donated 2nd place championship eagles t-shirts.

  35. johnster67 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:38 PM

    Please, Phillie, take Garrett and give Reid in Dallas.

  36. otis52gsh says: Jan 3, 2012 3:38 PM

    I thought this year was super bowl or bust?? Vick will never win you a SB. He just ain’t good enough.

  37. gallaghedj311 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:38 PM

    Checkforecheck: agree agree agree. Not once did I think Reid was in danger this year or next. Lurie simply stated a fact that Andy always bounces back.

    Can u imagine if Art Rooney would have listened to steelers fans in 2001 when Cowher missed the playoffs for the 3rd consecutive year? Wonder how many steelers fans called for his head back then….. Wonder if they ever admitted how foolish they were…..

  38. rajbais says: Jan 3, 2012 3:39 PM

    Which also means that Andy Reid will be back in 2013 because of another excuse that is worse than “the dog ate my homework!!!”

    Reid is not as good as he used to be!!! His first four NFC championships out of five came during the first half of his tenure with the Eagles and since 2008 he’s only made the routes to a championship more complicated by doing fewer simple things!!!

  39. dawkattack says: Jan 3, 2012 3:40 PM

    Eagirls ? Wth are you 5 yrs old

  40. skipbayless says: Jan 3, 2012 3:40 PM

    If the Eagles bring in Spags or a nice DC and draft and more importantly hit on a linebacker in the first and some other early picks with 2 mid round 2nds and then go 10-6 and get bounced from playoffs, if they make it, then what do you do, bring him back again? man eagles better at least be in the nfc championship, but we all know they’ll lose it and the nfc will win the super bowl probably. and this is from a birds fan realizing more and more over time this organization is just soft. if you have a soft owner gm and coach your team is wait for it….SOFT

  41. opiedamus says: Jan 3, 2012 3:41 PM

    @bdawk20: Easy, Harbaugh hasn’t done anything, yet. Not saying he won’t, but to date, he’s had 1 winning season w/zero playoff wins.

    Way too early to use him as an example of what a real coach, the Eagles should hire, looks like.

    Like him or not, Reid is a pretty darn good coach and there aren’t many like him that are available.

  42. pitch87mph says: Jan 3, 2012 3:42 PM

    Good for Lurie. Eagle fans may be p*ssed, but winning is the ultimate cure. And given the circumstances, is there really anyone available that is a better fit for this cast and crew (particularly Vick)? If you jettison Reid, you start over–across the board. The players and head coach deserve a chance to reach it’s “dream team” status next year. Lurie didn’t get to where he is today by listening to overly emotional stakeholders (i.e. fans) who have little rational understanding of the big picture. And I say the same to Dean Spanos. A fast start to next season will MORE than make up for any fan discord in the offseason that may have a short-term impact on ticket sales. Hire Spags as D coordinator, and you have your interim coach in waiting should the team start off slowly and Lurie decides enough is enough. But firing Reid right now is just plain silly! Typical irrational fans–who will be the same ones back on the bandwagon should the Eagles start off hot.

  43. pflynn20 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:43 PM

    Same ole same ole from the golden standard organization. My PSL just went up for sale

  44. borisbulldog says: Jan 3, 2012 3:43 PM

    The Eagles mantra, “Commitment to Mediocrity”

  45. cryptker says: Jan 3, 2012 3:43 PM

    Now i know what`s the matter with the eagles,there just dumb from the top down!

  46. cutterbark says: Jan 3, 2012 3:46 PM

    Begs the question. Why hold that pre-announced press conference anyway?

  47. greymares says: Jan 3, 2012 3:48 PM

    checkforecheck says:
    Jan 3, 2012 3:15 PM
    Typical article slant. I watched that entire thing myself and not once did he hint Reid is on the hot seat. Even the quotes you pulled don’t hint that
    ————————————————–you are absolutely correct but the truth doesn’t make a good blog

  48. drexelvol says: Jan 3, 2012 3:53 PM

    @checkforecheck – If you watched the entire press conference and didn’t come to the conclusion that if Reid doesn’t produce next season, he’ll be out, then you’re not very observant at all. Lurie showed his frustration and anger about this season but one of the reasons why he’s keeping Reid is because he stated the team has always bounced back and made the playoffs the following season. Ergo, if they don’t make the playoffs next season one of his main reasons for keeping Reid doesn’t hold and Reid will be fired.

    Lurie also knows there are no other quality coaches available and a lot of HC vacancies around the league.

  49. rajbais says: Jan 3, 2012 3:53 PM

    Cincinnati, Denver, Baltimore, San Francisco, and plenty of other teams that JUST missed the playoffs had some significant coaching changes; but they all looked a heck of a lot more competitive than Philadelphia!!!

    Why do people put Norv Turner in San Diego on the hot seat when he took the Chargers to playoff victories for the first time since the 1990’s???

    Tom Coughlin in New York is on the hot seat every season; but he won a Super Bowl, a title that the declining Reid will likely never win!!

    Rex Ryan went to two conference championships in his first two seasons, but he gets ZERO credit for that!!!

    People, welcome to America where your political relations with news organizations and journalists factor into your ability 100% of the time rather to than your actual accomplishments and skill!!! Just because the media outside Philadelphia feels sorry for Andy Reid and respects him to a disgusting fault it does not mean that he deserves to stay!!! Stupid media critics can come up with as many theories and bullcrap reasons to why Reid should stay, but there will always be counter arguments and counterexamples because the media is bad at its job and is too lazy to do any research comprehensively!!!!!

  50. lawboy2000 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:56 PM

    Reid has performed comparably to Cowher in Pittsburgh but Reid has consistently faced much tougher criticism from fans and the media than Cowher ever did. No doubt Reid’s heavy-breathing, one-word answer, “my bad” antics at press conferences have been one reason but as Lurie pointed out, there are benefits to that approach in the locker room. Where Reid seems to have earned the target on his chest is in his consistently poor personnel decisions, stubborn play-calling and generally poor game-day situational coaching.

  51. shootahcowboy says: Jan 3, 2012 3:56 PM

    Lurie needs to put Andy in a better position to win games…

  52. ace8842 says: Jan 3, 2012 3:58 PM

    Out of towners need to shut the heck up about Philly fans. Remember when we told you that Mcnabb stunk, and all of you said “be careful what you wish for?” Or those that were predicting that the Eagles would regret this trade to the Redskins for years? I think it was Warren Sapp or Deion Sanders who said it was the worst trade in history. The national media stood up for Mcnabb just like Andy Reid, but they are too far removed from the situation. Ex-Coaches have a fraternity where they always stick up for current coaches. That is why Herm Edwards, Brian Billick and others will always stick up for Reid. They rarely if ever think a coach should be fired.

  53. rgthree4dc says: Jan 3, 2012 3:58 PM

    Ehhh, I’d say that’s reading between the lines a little too much. If anything, that sounds like a vote of confidence. I just wonder what will result from this season, someone’s got to be the goat in Philly.

    Either way, I hope Romo and Reid both get lifetime contracts so Philly and Dallas will not have any shot at a Lombardi.

  54. lawboy2000 says: Jan 3, 2012 4:00 PM

    By the way, I would fire Reid, cut Vince Young, and hire Jeff Fisher.

  55. philliesphan says: Jan 3, 2012 4:00 PM

    How can you call this season unexcusable and then say you are not making any changes. Sounds like it was acceptable to me. Not holding either coach or GM accoutable is unexcusable to me.

  56. mancave001 says: Jan 3, 2012 4:00 PM

    Don’t tell Philly fans how we should feel, and then give us false dilemmas of crappy coaches we could have instead. You’re not here…you don’t see the same frustrating nonsense week in and week out, year after year. We have every right to ask for this guy’s firing.

    All of that said, I get the decision to bring him back given the team’s finish, new personnel, new coaches and no real offseason. It’s probably right. Four weeks ago I was ready to go buy a pitchfork.

  57. wcdunkenfield says: Jan 3, 2012 4:04 PM

    As a dyed-in-the-green-wool Eagles fan, I say forget about them ’til next year.

    Let’s talk about how the beastly Saints are gonna run rampant over everyone — including the Punters from Green Bay — to face Pretty Boy and the Patriots in the SB.

    And how Drew & C0., take the Lombardi. Again…

  58. tigrrrr says: Jan 3, 2012 4:07 PM

    eagles 2012 – same ole same ole – vick the dog torturer gets hurt again, eagles go on a losing streak and players watch the SB from home, while andy eats another cheesesteak to make himself feel better.
    What a dream!
    …oh yeah dream team 2012 coming up!!

  59. jakek2 says: Jan 3, 2012 4:20 PM

    Disappointed Giant fan here really hoping that Lurie would knee-jerk and fire Reid.

  60. ramofsteel says: Jan 3, 2012 4:22 PM

    I don’t get it. The bad years for Reid are around 8-8. The Eagles are good when Jeff Gracia or AJ Feely is QB. Maybe if Vince Young hadn’t blabbered about being a “dream team” none of this criticism would’ve happened. He’s put a mangled OL into a good unit. And Mike Vick of all ppl is actually playing QB.

  61. cantonbound13 says: Jan 3, 2012 4:23 PM

    I’d gladly take him on the Dolphins.

  62. realfootballfan says: Jan 3, 2012 4:23 PM

    Really, it’s the only way he could go. The organization hitched itself to Vick at least to next year, and Reid’s the only coach who’s remotely gotten as much as he has out of him.

    First thing’s first though for reid is to park that bus on Juan Castillo in order to increase his odds of winning next year.

  63. peelmybatwings says: Jan 3, 2012 4:27 PM

    hotpappyjohnson says:Jan 3, 2012 3:35 PM

    im a diehard bird fan and philly resident but the arrogance is not in reid, its in every mongloid eagle fan – who ive grown to despise. guess im an uncle tom- that believes the organization gives a F what the fans think. sorry to break the news but santas not real and you have no influence on team decisions no matter how much you throw fits, whine, cry, complain and chant “fire andy”.on top of that i havent heard 1 good idea on a reid replacement out of these same mouths

    ….and I guess you were suggesting Andy Reid should replace Ray Rhodes back in ’98, cause I’m sure you knew who he was and … oh wait.. no one knew who the hell Andy was then, so why do we have to know who his replacement is now? Who says it can only be a name you know? Did you know who Mike Tomlin was when he replaced Bill Cowher? I’d say he’s better than Cowher. Did you know who Mike McCarthy or Sean Payton were? They have already won Super Bowls, and they were guys younger than Reid and hired well after him, too. This notion that nobody can replace Andy is utterly ridiculous. One more thing: remember, no coach has EVER won the Super Bowl with two different teams, but a few have gotten there with two while winning with one of them. So I wouldn’t want a retread Super Bowl coach replacing him, anyway.

  64. nfl fan says: Jan 3, 2012 4:29 PM

    Don’t worry, something tells me that Andy will take full responsibility and promise to do a better job.

  65. packerbadger says: Jan 3, 2012 4:39 PM

    I’m really surprised that Reid has lasted as long as he has.

  66. wallyhorse says: Jan 3, 2012 4:41 PM

    Did anyone REALLY think Reid was going to be let go, especially since the Eagles were by far the team most screwed by the lockout?

    Only way Reid was leaving was if Penn State REALLY wanted Reid and was to pay whatever it took to get him.

  67. cobrala2 says: Jan 3, 2012 4:43 PM

    I think coaches have a right to dislike press conferences (and journalists).

    I think Philly fans have a right to be tired of 2nd place.

    I think Juan Castillo’s promotion was utterly idiotic.

    I think Andy Reid’s a little too nice on his players (D-Jackoff).

    I think Andy Reid needs to address the elephant in the metrics room that he needs to run the ball more often.

    I think our team needs to play like a team.

    HOWEVER…

    I think Reid gives us our absolute best chance of winning in 2012.

    I do not think for a moment our perpetual 2nd place-streak is all on Andy Reid’s shoulders.

    I believe in loyalty and second chances and believe Reid absolutely has done enough in his career to deserve one.

  68. cobrala2 says: Jan 3, 2012 4:45 PM

    For the record, the whining, crying, complaining Boo Birds out there don’t surprise me in the slightest… there’s something in that water along the Jersey Shore

  69. willardj says: Jan 3, 2012 4:53 PM

    I’m an Eagles fan. I’ve wanted McNabb gone since 2007. But I’m also supporting Reid here. I think he should stay.

    You can’t get rid of a coach in order to fix a team. You need to get rid of the team he created. Since that’s impossible, it makes more sense to keep Reid and see if he can lead us to the promised land.

    I really don’t get the fans who aren’t optimistic about next season. We have plenty of talent and should have chemistry and maybe even a great defensive coordinator in Spagnuolo. What’s not to like?

  70. 07vrod says: Jan 3, 2012 4:56 PM

    Since we’re talking about coaches, I’d like everyone’s feedback as to your thoughts of the iconic Dallas Cowboys coach Tom Landry. I always thought his name was synonymous with the Dallas Cowboys “winning tradition”…There is a point to this, once I have your thoughts to that of a “Great Coach”. He coached the Dallas Cowboys for 29 years, yes 29 years! His accomplishments in all those years produced 14 Division crowns, 5 NFC crowns, and 2 Super Bowl Trophies. That means under Landry, they lost 3 Super Bowls. I could only imagine the Philly fan and media if this was the Eagles and Andy Reid. Let’s compare Reid’s 13 seasons: 7 Division crowns, 1 NFC crown, and 0 Super Bowl Trophies. It took Landry 11 years to win his first NFC crown and in his 12th to win his first Super Bowl. It also took him 7 seasons to actually produce a winning season…Guess he’s glad he never coached in this town!

  71. jakek2 says: Jan 3, 2012 5:12 PM

    Eagles fans….

    The problem isn’t Lurie, Reid or even Castillo. As a Giants’ fan, I can tell you that your team is in desperate need of a locker room leader (as ours is). All the talent in the world does you no good unless there’s that ONE player who can direct it all toward the common good. Rolle is trying to do that for us and by all accounts its starting to work. You need to replace Dawkins or else you can expect more 8-8 seasons and years of LeSean Jackson doing his look-at-me touchdown dance when the team is still down 24. This is objective and not from a hater viewpoint.

  72. commonsensedude says: Jan 3, 2012 5:22 PM


    Getting sick of all the Philly “fans” that want Reid gone. He is the best coach you people have had. Would you rather have Norv Turner, Jim Caldwell, or Jason Garrett as your freakin coach?

    I’ll tell you what, Philly fans. You guys can have Mike Shanahan and we’ll take Andy Reid. Let’s call it an even swap. Yeah …. that’s the ticket. An even swap. You’re welcome!

    (After a season or two of Megamind, his son and his “system,” they’ll be begging for Reid to come back. Of course, he won’t return once he leaves Philly and discovers that there are NFL cities where the fans don’t throw Duracell batteries at innocent bystanders just for the fun of it).

  73. wisconsineaglesfan says: Jan 3, 2012 5:26 PM

    The defense gave up how many 4th quarter leads? This team could EASLY be 12-4 and a major threat to the Packers AND Saints. No off season to get a new DC up and running and the players working in his system. New faces in the D didn’t help this year either…. they need time to mesh.

    I was all for canning Juan, but the dude was putting his system in place on the fly… and they started doing a lot better towards the end of the season. I can envision this team, with a full off season to come together and gel, as a legit Superbowl contender…. as long as Vick can stay healthy… or Kafka can come and play at a high level. Vince Young and HIS “Dream Team” butt need to be cut.

    Reid can stay in Philly until he is ready to leave IMO.

  74. sdffa11 says: Jan 3, 2012 5:33 PM

    commonsensedude says:
    Jan 3, 2012 5:22 PM

    Getting sick of all the Philly “fans” that want Reid gone. He is the best coach you people have had. Would you rather have Norv Turner, Jim Caldwell, or Jason Garrett as your freakin coach?

    Yes. i would take Norv Turner. After 13 years, any change is better than no change.

  75. golonger says: Jan 3, 2012 5:37 PM

    3 words to achieving better results for the Eagles……Cut Mike Vick!!!!!!!

  76. medialovesthecowboys says: Jan 3, 2012 5:41 PM

    “…but Lurie acknowledged that Reid can find a way to protect his players without sacrificing popularity.”

    Honestly? Who cares except for the media. I’m a diehard Cowboys fan and I both hate and lack a lot of respect for the Eagles, but props to Reid for sacrificing popularity with the talking heads for backing his team.

  77. jeffinphilly says: Jan 3, 2012 6:01 PM

    Mike Tomlin. Sean Payton. Jim Harbaugh. Mike McCarthy . . . Do i need to go on?

    Andy Reid is not the be-all-end-all in coaching. All of those coaches came in and did a great job.

    By the logic of all these idiot non-Eagles fans out there, Norv Turner is a great coach! He should be able to coach SD forever, never win a superbowl, and always underachieve because the fans need to shut up and accept mediocrity.

  78. jbraxton3rd says: Jan 3, 2012 6:23 PM

    Reid should have been gone. When will Lurie realize that he can’t get the job done? With all the high priced free agents he had this season, not making the playoffs is inexcusable!!!!

  79. polapea says: Jan 3, 2012 10:10 PM

    Check Reid’s record vs. teams that qualified for the playoffs (not including this yr) 24-42 .364 win %.
    Tough to win a SB if you can’t beat good teams.

  80. anthonyfromstatenisland says: Jan 4, 2012 3:09 AM

    And of the Eagles’ 10 out-of-division opponents in 2012, only three – Carolina, Tampa Bay and Cleveland – had losing records in 2011.

    So I see Fat Boy out this time next year – then hopefully the Eagles will get either Bill Cowher or Rob Ryan, either of whom will get this team down from Brokeback Mountain and back to playing the kind of physical, lunch-pail football the local fan base demands.

  81. ChopBlockMurph says: Jan 4, 2012 8:58 AM

    jeffinphilly says:
    “Mike Tomlin. Sean Payton. Jim Harbaugh. Mike McCarthy . . . Do i need to go on?”

    Scott Linehan. Steve Spurrier. Bobby Petrino. Raheem Morris.

    Yes, you do need to go on: who’s your homerun replacement for Reid?

  82. polapea says: Jan 4, 2012 10:12 AM

    @anthonyfromstatenisland says:
    So I see Fat Boy out this time next year – then hopefully the Eagles will get either Bill Cowher or Rob Ryan, either of whom will get this team down from Brokeback Mountain and back to playing the kind of physical, lunch-pail football the local fan base demands.
    _________________________________
    Reid may be gone at the end of 2012 but no way will Cowher or Ryan be the next HC

    Cowher won’t take a job where he isn’t the GM, he wants say over personnel. Not going to happen in Philly.

    Rob Ryan sucks. What is with the Ryan family love, they are not good head coaches? Buddy was a terrible HC who couldn’t win in the playoffs and Rex’s talking is tired and falling on deaf ears. They are coordiantors nothing more.

  83. philly2boston says: Jan 4, 2012 5:00 PM

    My Philly brethren.. It’s now time to put hope in front of change and maybe it’ll work out better than a perpetual campaign. The old addage is that change is good but the good times were when Philly had average choir boys which contributed to a great team. My have things changed. Andy do you remember?

  84. anthonyfromstatenisland says: Jan 8, 2012 4:24 AM

    @polapea: The Eagles need someone with a physical philosophy who will bring bigger, stronger, tougher players to Philadelphia – and Rob Ryan would clearly do that.

    I’m sure there are probably others out there who would do it too – but they are so obscure that if the Eagles hire one of them it would be tantamount to hanging a sandwich board around their neck and saying, “We’re rebuilding.”

    And if not Bill Cowher, then what about Brian Billick? That was a pretty nasty defense the Ravens had the year he coached them to their Super Bowl title.

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