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Week 17 power rankings

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1.  Packers (No. 1; 15-1):  Biggest concern for the defending champs?  They finished the regular season with the worst total defense in the league, and the worst pass defense.

2. Patriots (No. 2; 13-3):  Four years since their last playoff win and seven since their last Super Bowl victory, the Patriots seem primed for another title run.

3.  Saints (No. 3; 13-3):  Without dome-field advantage, it’ll be hard for this team to get to the dome in Indianapolis.

4.  49ers (No. 4; 13-3):  In anticipation of a visit from the Saints, the Niners should water down the field at Candlestick Park.  Continuously.

5. Ravens (No. 5; 12-4):  The AFC’s best hope for keeping the Packers or Saints under 30 points will first have to find a way to get past the Steelers, Patriots, or both.

6. Steelers (No. 6; 12-4):  The Steelers can beat the Broncos without a healthy Roethlisberger, but not the Patriots or the Ravens.

7. Falcons (No. 9; 10-6):  Quarterback Matt Ryan won’t be taken seriously until he wins a playoff game.  He won’t win on Sunday if he tries too hard to win with his arm.

8. Lions (No. 7; 10-6):  This is a different team than the one that lost in the Superdome last month.

9. Giants (No. 10; 9-7):  The Ravens play down to the competition on the road, and the Giants tend to do it at home.

10. Bengals (No. 8; 9-7):  When this team learns how to beat good teams, this team could become a great team.

11. Eagles (No. 11; 8-8):  A strong push to end the season saved Andy Reid’s job.  A stronger push will be needed in 2012 to save it again.

12. Texans (No. 13; 10-6):  Anything can happen in the playoffs.  But anything other than a double-digit loss in Baltimore next weekend would be a surprise.

13. Cowboys (No. 12; 8-8):  With one playoff win since 1996, the other teams of the NFC East are happy that owner Jerry Jones intends to make no major changes.

14. Chargers (No. 17; 8-8):  The Chargers could be on track to host a playoff game next season . . . that is blacked out in Southern California.

15. Chiefs (No. 18; 7-9):  If the Chiefs can get and stay healthy in 2012, they can take back the division.

16. Broncos (No. 14; 8-8):  Tebow may be able to walk on water, but he’ll have a hard time bending steel.

17. Raiders (No. 15; 8-8):  The team won’t keep selling out home games if the Raiders can’t win more than three games at home all year.

18. Jets (No. 16; 8-8):  Maybe the Jets will win a Super Bowl if Rex Ryan guarantees they won’t.

19. Cardinals (No. 20; 8-8):  We’ll take Larry Fitzgerald with a bruised lung — or two — over just about any other receiver in the game without one.

20. Seahawks (No. 19; 7-9):  Last year, 7-9 won the division.  This year, it’s good enough for third place.

21. Titans (No. 22; 9-7):  The season was better than expected, but blowing a shot at the playoffs makes it feel like a major disappointment.

21. Dolphins (No. 23; 6-10):  This did enough to get Tony Sparano fired, but not enough to get Todd Bowles hired.

23. Panthers (No. 21; 6-10):  A four-game improvement in 2011 was good.  Another four-game improvement in 2012 would be great.

24. Bears (No. 25; 8-8):  Would Jerry Angelo still have a job if he’d simply called Brett Favre?

25. Bills (No. 24; 6-10):  “Crappy New Year” may have been a more appropriate message for Stevie Johnson’s T-shirt.

26. Redskins (No. 26; 5-11):  The only way Kyle Shanahan’s prediction to his players that the Redskins will win the NFC East in 2012 comes true is if Shanahan gets ride of most of those players.

27. Jaguars (No. 27; 5-11):  Maurice Jones-Drew has become the guy that Reggie Bush always wanted to be.

28. Browns (No. 28; 4-12):  The Browns will be hiring an offensive coordinator, who hopefully will help the team be somewhat less offensive.

29. Vikings (No. 29; 3-13):  Promoting the guy who brought Jared Allen and Adrian Peterson to town may not be such a bad idea, after all.

30. Buccaneers (No. 31; 4-12):  Forget spending for a coach — the Glazers need to spend the money on players.

31. Rams (No. 32; 2-14):  Averaging nearly 13 losses per year over three years isn’t the best way to get a fourth year.

32 . Colts (No. 30; 2-14):  They sucked just enough for Luck.  Post-Polianoscopy, the Colts will have to decide whether they want him.

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  1. bigtimetexanfan says: Jan 4, 2012 9:45 AM

    Seriously you put a playoff team behind an 8-8 team !!!! #haters

  2. briank1ne says: Jan 4, 2012 9:50 AM

    niners gonna take this thing…their defense can stop brees rodgers or brady. none of these qbs have faced a defense like the niners yet. time to turn up the heat!

  3. itsdaweasel says: Jan 4, 2012 9:52 AM

    Almost every journalist writes about how the saints aren’t a good “road team” or “they play in a dome so they can’t win”. The FACT of the of the matter is simply this – the saints are 18 – 7 in road games the last 3 seasons. That is the best road record of ANY NFL TEAM! Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

  4. terrellpryorstattooartist says: Jan 4, 2012 9:52 AM

    I stopped reading after I saw the eagles

  5. kevo126 says: Jan 4, 2012 9:54 AM

    i think you forgot that the ravens crushed the 49ers…

  6. norseyapper says: Jan 4, 2012 9:59 AM

    Interesting list. Amazing isn’t it that two of the poorest defenses, statistically speaking, are ranked 1 & 2, and who can really argue against it?
    My how things have changed in the NFL from the days of “offense sells tickets but defense wins chapionships.”

  7. packerstexansfan says: Jan 4, 2012 10:01 AM

    10. Bengals (No. 8; 9-7): When this team learns how to beat good teams, this team could become a great team.

    11. Eagles (No. 11; 8-8): A strong push to end the season saved Andy Reid’s job. A stronger push will be needed in 2012 to save it again.

    12. Texans (No. 13; 10-6): Anything can happen in the playoffs. But anything other than a double-digit loss in Baltimore next weekend would be a surprise.

    Lol. Wow. These three are golden. First, you have the Eagles over the Texans, which is laughable, considering the Eagles are going to be watching from home. Then you have the Bengals ahead of them, even though in your line about the Texans, you talk about them playing the Ravens; meaning that you see them beating the Bengals. Yet, they’re still ranked below them. Great logic guys. Keep up the good work.

  8. jrmbadger says: Jan 4, 2012 10:01 AM

    “They finished the regular season with the worst total defense in the league, and the worst pass defense”
    ===================================
    Based on yardage, yes. Based on points they finished 19th. They also had a league leading 38 turnovers (tied with SF) with an astonishing 31 interceptions. And they held opposing QB’s to an 80 QB rating.

    It’s not as bad as people make it out to be. While it’s not ideal, it seems to work. Turn the ball over to the high powered offense and let them do what they do best – score points.

  9. rj88888 says: Jan 4, 2012 10:02 AM

    The New Orleans Saints should be ranked first based on the way they are playing at the end of the season. The Green Bay Packers did not play their starters to keep the edge they may have enjoyed. Saints win the Super Bowl.

  10. gbpackman says: Jan 4, 2012 10:02 AM

    Defense is more accurately defined by points allowed, not yards. The Pack finished 14th, not dead last. Last I checked points win the game, not total yards. Were taking the SB anyways.

  11. nflfollower says: Jan 4, 2012 10:05 AM

    norseyapper says:
    Jan 4, 2012 9:59 AM
    Interesting list. Amazing isn’t it that two of the poorest defenses, statistically speaking, are ranked 1 & 2, and who can really argue against it?
    My how things have changed in the NFL from the days of “offense sells tickets but defense wins chapionships.”

    —————Yea, just goes to show who really has the power in the league. The front office and Goodell wants to market the game a certain way, and with strategic rule changes, can mold the game into almost anything they want it to be. Very telling observation about those defenses being on the #1 and #2 teams.

  12. indywilson40 says: Jan 4, 2012 10:10 AM

    The Bucs are down 42-0 in the 1st half and gain one spot in the power rankings. Wow.

  13. hellawaitsusall says: Jan 4, 2012 10:10 AM

    Power Rankings? Meaningless. Whoever started this bs was a genius. They realized there’s people out there who actually follow this fake ranking system.

  14. ebeg420 says: Jan 4, 2012 10:11 AM

    SF over BAL?
    NE over NO?
    STL over IND?

  15. klownboy says: Jan 4, 2012 10:11 AM

    I agree with the top 10, though I have a slight problem with the Eagles ranked higher than the Texans…

  16. shaqattaqer says: Jan 4, 2012 10:11 AM

    i don’t understand how any non-playoff team can be higher than 13. they have NO Power to do anything else this season. happens in all the power rankings i check out. to have philly higher than houston is absurd, and slightly less absurd is to have denver behind 4 non-playoff teams. you can dislike how houston & denver are playing all you want, but they are in the playoffs.

  17. cancelsundayticket says: Jan 4, 2012 10:12 AM

    “5. Ravens (No. 5; 12-4): The AFC’s best hope for keeping the Packers or Saints under 30 points will first have to find a way to get past the Steelers, Patriots, or both.”

    I don’t understand this comment at all. Over the last 6 games the Steelers gave up 3 TDs…the Ravens gave up 3 TIMES+ that total. Not knocking the Ravens, because they are also a top notch team, but seriously, how are they the AFCs best hope???

  18. ebeg420 says: Jan 4, 2012 10:17 AM

    The saying “Offense wins games/Defense wins Championships” is OVER!!
    But people are getting a little too much caught up with NE being #31 and GB being #32 in Total Defense and Pass Defense, BOTH of those teams are getting early BIG leads and why would teams run when being down 20? Plus when those teams are up that BIG they run a Prevent style Defense, it’s already turned into a Passing League so those numbers are not as alarming as people think. With that said, Goodell got what he wanted, Arena League style scoring.

  19. terrellpryorstattooartist says: Jan 4, 2012 10:20 AM

    If the ravens don’t make the superbowl I would love to see the saints crush the patriots

  20. dukemarc says: Jan 4, 2012 10:20 AM

    Yards Allowed is not Equal to Points Allowed – why is no one getting this? The Packers lead the league in Interceptions for cripes sakes – the next closest team was 8 behind them. They gave up a Passer Rating of 80.6 after facing Brees, Stafford(twice), Eli and Cutler, Matt Ryan and Cam Newton.Capers Defenses have always given up yards but contained a teams scoring by giving up FGs instead of TDs or just plain turning the ball over.

  21. pamo9 says: Jan 4, 2012 10:22 AM

    The Titans should be ranked higher then all the 8-8 teams and the ones with losing records. They finished 9-7. They were the only team with a winning record that finished out of the playoffs. Gheesh!!!!

  22. jrmbadger says: Jan 4, 2012 10:24 AM

    “rj88888 says:
    Jan 4, 2012 10:02 AM
    The New Orleans Saints should be ranked first based on the way they are playing at the end of the season. The Green Bay Packers did not play their starters to keep the edge they may have enjoyed. Saints win the Super Bowl.”
    ================================
    Don’t they teach math in the South? A 15-1 record is better than a 13-3 record.

    And the Saints just look better right now because the Packers don’t run up the score on inferior opponents to pad their stats.

  23. notrelated says: Jan 4, 2012 10:26 AM

    How do you people still not understand how power rankings work? Seriously? Come on. Stop crying like little girls because your team isn’t ranked high. Texans are going to lose the first round of the playoffs. This entire season has been a crap shoot.

  24. binarybulge says: Jan 4, 2012 10:26 AM

    I love how everyone gets soooo worked up over Power Rankings. At least PFT’s Power Rankings are thought-out and described in great detail. If you can do better, let’s see yours. Even still, yours are no more or less valid than PFT’s. It’s all opinion-based.

    Anyways, whatever… it’s not like me saying this is going to change anything, haha. Plus, it’s great entertainment seeing how butt-hurt people get.

  25. frogsupply says: Jan 4, 2012 10:27 AM

    I think you accidentally switched 10 and 12. One has beaten the other in their place…even with their #3 QB. I guess we will see Saturday.

  26. rmc1995 says: Jan 4, 2012 10:27 AM

    At this point, the only power a non-playoff team has over a playoff team is a higher draft pick.

  27. dtm1088 says: Jan 4, 2012 10:32 AM

    As much as I hate the Eagles, these are Power Rankings, not standings. And as silly as these rankings may be, and for everyone complaining about the Texans, If they hypothetically played Philadelphia on Sunday, who would be the favorite on a neutral field? That ranking seems to make sense to me.

  28. cdsaints says: Jan 4, 2012 10:33 AM

    So the Saints have a better offense, and better defense, and the same record as the Pats, yet are ranked lower….oh wait…they don’t have Tom Brady…I got it.

    And as far as this talk of “stat padding” by running up scores, that’s a bunch of horse crap. Brees was pulled in the 4th on at least 3 occasions that I can remember off of the top of my head (Indie, Minnesota, Carolina) … possibly even more considering how bad they have been blowing teams out this year. If they were running up scores then Brees would have broken EVEN MORE records this year, namely the touchdown record. Think he couldn’t have thrown for a few more against Indie and Minnie?

  29. jessethegreat says: Jan 4, 2012 10:35 AM

    rj88888 says:
    Jan 4, 2012 10:02 AM
    The New Orleans Saints should be ranked first based on the way they are playing at the end of the season. The Green Bay Packers did not play their starters to keep the edge they may have enjoyed. Saints win the Super Bowl.

    ——————————————————— Correction…. The Green Bay Packers did not play their starters and still won against a tough division opponent in the Lions. Saints win probably lose to the Lions in the Wild-Card round this year just like last year against the Seahawks. Packers will go on to finish this season just like last season; only difference being they have home field advantage this year.

  30. boisestatewhodat says: Jan 4, 2012 10:35 AM

    Keep thinking the Saints can’t win on the road. FACT: Saints post the best road record over the past 3 seasons than any other NFL team. Sure, go ahead and mention STL, TB and Seattle…you would have stated half of their road losses in 3 years! They’re 18-6 over that time frame. San Fransisco won’t know what hit them.

    As far as running up the score…that’s cute and all but I can promise you that Payton doesn’t put Brees and company on the field to NOT score points…obsurd! Saints will win the super bowl!

  31. boisestatewhodat says: Jan 4, 2012 10:39 AM

    Oh yeah…after shattering record after record the Saints still have never won a road playoff game. I’d say its a safe bet for that to be rewritten too…here we come, to get you!

  32. rc33 says: Jan 4, 2012 10:40 AM

    cdsaints says: Jan 4, 2012 10:33 AM

    So the Saints have a better offense, and better defense, and the same record as the Pats, yet are ranked lower….oh wait…they don’t have Tom Brady…I got it.

    ——————————————

    Whiniest post ever recorded.

  33. wrossi81 says: Jan 4, 2012 10:50 AM

    I’m an Eagles fan but they are what their record says they are. It’s amazing how much stock the national media puts in beating 2 losing teams and 2 8-8 teams when you’ve all but put yourself out of the running. The only team we beat that ended the season over .500 was the Giants. Putting us above the Texans is just poor form.

  34. brohamma says: Jan 4, 2012 10:51 AM

    Seriously though.. the Jets should be behind the Bills in the rankings. Titans, Dolphins, Panthers, Bears, Bills should all be bumped up though retaining their order.. with Arizona and Seattle following the Jets.

    Just ask yourself if you would bet on the Jets vs. those teams if there were games for them next week? Not a chance!

  35. bosfaninva says: Jan 4, 2012 10:54 AM

    So, are people finally seeing that the Packers, Pats, and Saints basically are the same team?

    Enough of this talk about how the Pats’ defense is so much worse than anyone else’s. It’s not great but with their offense, it’s good enough.

    And same for the Packers and Saints.

    Similarly, the talk of the Pats “not running the ball” is also a sign of ignorance. Did anyone see the 88-yard drive to salt the game away on Sunday? You people will get to know Stevan Ridley whether you want to or not. And when you have Tom Brady throwing to Welker, Gronk, Woodhead, et al, you really don’t have to run as much in short-yardage situations.

  36. dvdman123 says: Jan 4, 2012 11:01 AM

    I love it how some are still complaining about the Saints running up the score. They Saints could have EASILY put 60 plus points on their last 3 oppponents. Instead they SAT Brees in the 4th quarter and pulled most of their starters.

  37. scra22 says: Jan 4, 2012 11:07 AM

    jrmbadger says:
    Don’t they teach math in the South? A 15-1 record is better than a 13-3 record.
    And the Saints just look better right now because the Packers don’t run up the score on inferior opponents to pad their stats.

    ====

    If Power Rankings were all about records than the 10-6 Texans wouldn’t be ranked below the 8-8 Eagles.

    And the “running up the score” bit is old (as are jokes about the South). Brees has come out of the game in the 4th quarter several times this year.

  38. boisestatewhodat says: Jan 4, 2012 11:13 AM

    They’re not the same team…the Saints have a defense and neither the Pats or Packers do…Saints will win each of their 3 playoff games by more than 10 points…you’ll see soon enough.

  39. southpaw2k says: Jan 4, 2012 11:16 AM

    I don’t see how the Patriots are primed for another Super Bowl run. If anything, they’re primed to be picked off in their first playoff game for the third straight season. If Pittsburgh travels there next weekend, I think I’d be more surprised if New England wins the game than if Pitt marches in there and takes out the Brady and Co. Even if the Pats do beat the Steelers, I don’t see them outlasting the Ravens either.

  40. wicky888 says: Jan 4, 2012 11:17 AM

    I understand how power rankings work, but i still cant get over the Eagles being so high. Hype and flash and big name players doesnt equal a good team, especially when facing other good teams. As posted above, the only team with a winning record that they beat this year was the Giants, who they also lost to. Granted they beat some 8-8 teams (Jets, Cowboys 2x) but they also lost to Seattle (7-9) and Buffalo (6-10). I’m pretty sure the only team they beat with a winning record last year was Atlanta. So we have 32 games and 2 wins over winning teams. Not sure how that equals a high power ranking. Granted if they played Denver and Houston (and perhaps a few other playoff teams) today, they would probably win. However, that arguement is irrelevant, because the only thing the Eagles will playing anytime soon is golf.

  41. forevercorr says: Jan 4, 2012 11:41 AM

    I know the Broncos are not playing well, but they’re playing, so ranking them third among their own division, the division that they’re representing in the playoffs, is just BS, probably to get people like me to post. The Chargers are renewing the same leadership that has drove them into the ground since Schotty left, the D doesn’t look strong and Rivers looks less and less like an all star (despite pro bowl voting). The Chiefs are probably going to suffer a coaching overhaul AND a QB battle. The Raiders bartered away their draft AGAIN to not make the playoffs, again. Denver has it’s issues (and yes, I count QB among them), but they are the division champs now and in the strongest position to move forward next year. Just the way it is.

  42. frezfram says: Jan 4, 2012 11:42 AM

    Isn’t it odd, how the top three teams all rank at the top for offense and the bottom for defense? I don’t think it is a coincidence. They seem to be in a mindset of playing only well enough to let their offense keep them ahead. Watching the Packers you can see when the defense is motivated and tight and when they take their foot off the gas. I still think that we are seeing the fallout from the teams not having a proper preseason. I also think that the league is changing and that the days of ‘defense wins championships’ is over.

  43. joker65 says: Jan 4, 2012 11:50 AM

    boisestatewhodat says:
    Jan 4, 2012 11:13 AM
    They’re not the same team…the Saints have a defense and neither the Pats or Packers do…Saints will win each of their 3 playoff games by more than 10 points…you’ll see soon enough.

    ___________________________________

    Yeah, the Saints have a defense…ranked all the way up at 24th. Give up the same amount of points as the Pats and Pack too. That said, I hope the Saints do end up beating GB and go to the Super Bowl….I hate the Packers.

  44. gpack22 says: Jan 4, 2012 11:50 AM

    The Saints have only played two games outdoors from Oct 16th till the end of the season. They lost on the 16th to Tampa (haha) and barely beat Tennessee on the road Dec. 11. Last I checked SF and GB both play outdoors and are light years better than either of those teams.

    Winning back to back at SF and Lambeau is not going to happen. They lost to GB in perfect conditions Week 1 and by the NFC Championship game the Pack will have played 4 of their last 5 games at home in the elements. Good luck with that.

  45. wikidpissah says: Jan 4, 2012 11:53 AM

    kevo126 says: Jan 4, 2012 9:54 AM

    i think you forgot that the ravens crushed the 49ers…
    —————————————————
    Crushed? It was 6-6 in the 4th Quarter, in Baltimore. It was an impressive win, but in a tight game.

    The Ravens have proven to be a different team away from home.

  46. boisestatewhodat says: Jan 4, 2012 12:10 PM

    Saints>Packers
    Saints>Niners

    Like I said, you’ll see soon enough. Not gonna banter anymore…just wait and see is all. BTW, you do know the Saints and their players rewrote the history book right? We’ll go ahead and call them the new and improved Greatest Show on Turf…its official, they’ve got the record in the books to prove it too!

  47. chrishousand says: Jan 4, 2012 12:11 PM

    Drew Brees did come out of games in the 4th quarter…after he had achieved his stats/records. The Saints are all show. The haven’t played outdoors since Oct. 23rd. Having an 18-7 road record in warm weather is completely different from playing in GB in January where it is single digits. See NFC Championship in CHI, 2006.

  48. timtheenchanter1 says: Jan 4, 2012 12:12 PM

    12. Texans (No. 13; 10-6): Anything can happen in the playoffs. But anything other than a double-digit loss in Baltimore next weekend would be a surprise.

    ————————————-

    For that to happen, they’d have to win this weekend. So you’re saying it would be a “surprise” for them not to beat the Bengals. You know, the team you have ranked 2 spots ABOVE them?

  49. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Jan 4, 2012 12:14 PM

    Whatever. We’re middle if the pack in terms of points scored and #1 in terms of other teams’ losses.

    The only power ranking that matters is who’s on top in the end. And, I think we all know who that is going to be. M’boy.

  50. boisestatewhodat says: Jan 4, 2012 12:28 PM

    If the Saints are all show…its a pretty damn good show!

  51. richm2256 says: Jan 4, 2012 12:29 PM

    Well ……….looky, looky who is at the top of the heap in the AFC once again.

    Your New England Patriots – the team that Yets fans, Squealer fans, Raven fans, Bills fans, and countless other idiots had completely written off – are for the second straight year the #1 team in the AFC, and your #1 playoff seed.

    How’s THAT taste, haters?????

    You can squawk “One and done!” all you want, but for many of you, your team never even GOT the “one” and is watching the playoffs the same way YOU are; on TV!

    Especially YOU, Yets fans!

    Tom Brady has had enough. The Pat’s defense can suck if they have to, there isn’t a defense out there that can stop a motivated Tom Brady.

    He’s got weapons like Welker, Gronkowski, Hernandez, Branch ….. and a decent running back corp of BJGE and Riddley.

    And that New England defense has twice shown now that after an atrotious start, they CAN shut a team completely down.

    There’s only one QB in the AFC playoffs that can hurt them, and it’s Roethlisberger, a guy they have beaten many times before, a guy they KNOW.

    The entire team has dedicated this season to winning for Myra Kraft, and they’ll want nothing less than to hand that fourth Lombardi over to Bob Kraft.

    I like their chances this year.

    By the way, Yets fans; Patriots fans have been waiting 17 weeks to brag about THEIR team, because up here we know that you do your bragging AFTER your team has actually accomplished something, not BEFORE!

    We also know that the first 16 games mean nothing starting next week.

  52. jimmysee says: Jan 4, 2012 12:36 PM

    Packers went wire to wire at #1 during the season.

    Has any team ever done that?

  53. 49ers12 says: Jan 4, 2012 12:37 PM

    Niners control the clock against the Saints and that defense slows down Brees and Rodgers… If the chiefs defense can make Rodgers look that bad… then i know the niners can.

  54. noskebopperking says: Jan 4, 2012 12:47 PM

    Honestly anyone who thinks the Texans are better then the Eagles right now are crazy. The fact that the Texans don’t have Johnson or Shaub makes them inferior to many teams as you will see in the playoffs . When they come back they will indeed be better then the Eagles. You just have to be realists. Anyway , the Packers are the team to beat so thats who everyone should worry about.

  55. packerstexansfan says: Jan 4, 2012 12:47 PM

    boisestatewhodat says:
    Jan 4, 2012 12:10 PM

    Saints>Packers
    Saints>Niners

    Like I said, you’ll see soon enough. Not gonna banter anymore…just wait and see is all. BTW, you do know the Saints and their players rewrote the history book right? We’ll go ahead and call them the new and improved Greatest Show on Turf…its official, they’ve got the record in the books to prove it too!

    But you’re missing the most important stat:
    15-1 > 13-3

  56. boisestatewhodat says: Jan 4, 2012 12:55 PM

    I’m not missing it…by that theory the 2009 Colts 14-2 should have won the superbowl right? Cause 14-2>13-3…silly perspective dude.

  57. cdsaints says: Jan 4, 2012 1:16 PM

    packerstexansfan says:
    Jan 4, 2012 12:47 PM

    But you’re missing the most important stat:
    15-1 > 13-3

    ———————–

    Most important stat = who is holding the Lombardi at the end of the superbowl. Saints are going scorched earth through the playoffs. If that “road game” nonsense makes you feel better, then go ahead and spew it some more, the FACT is that they are the best road team in the NFL since 2009. The 2006 NFCCG is irrelevant, the 2011 Saints would crush the 2006 Saints. The domination starts Saturday night, get your excuses ready ladies!

  58. chrishousand says: Jan 4, 2012 1:23 PM

    Its is a pretty damn good show, with all that stupid pregame garbage and who dat crap. The Saints will put on a show…until they can’t be in their little dome, then Drew Brees becomes wildly mediocre and ordinary.Try getting a QB who can play anywhere, not just at home. Saints won’t make it out of GB because theyll never make it out of SF, if they even manage to getby DET this weekend. Believe Dat, or should I say THAT, like sophisticated people do.

  59. southpaw2k says: Jan 4, 2012 1:23 PM

    richm2256 says:
    Jan 4, 2012 12:29 PM
    Well ……….looky, looky who is at the top of the heap in the AFC once again.

    Your New England Patriots – the team that Yets fans, Squealer fans, Raven fans, Bills fans, and countless other idiots had completely written off – are for the second straight year the #1 team in the AFC, and your #1 playoff seed.

    How’s THAT taste, haters?????

    You can squawk “One and done!” all you want, but for many of you, your team never even GOT the “one” and is watching the playoffs the same way YOU are; on TV!

    ————————————————-

    My team got the #2, so I’m hardly complaining or jealous.

    And a whole lotta good home field advantage did for your Pats the last two years in the playoffs.

  60. davidpom50 says: Jan 4, 2012 1:30 PM

    You know what’s fun? The highest ranked defense (by scoring) that the Packers faced this year was the #12 ranked Kansas City Chiefs. It seems to me that game was somehow memorable for Packers fans… can somebody help me out? How was that game different than any other Packers game this year?

    Oh, and FYI, the top 4 defenses all made the playoffs, so before we declare “Defense wins championships!” dead, we might want to let these playoffs happen.

  61. cdsaints says: Jan 4, 2012 1:55 PM

    chrishousand says:
    Jan 4, 2012 12:11 PM

    Drew Brees did come out of games in the 4th quarter…after he had achieved his stats/records

    ————

    Exactly the point. I looked at the schedule and I can count 5 games that he was pulled in. That’s 5 games that they were blowing out teams so badly that it became noncompetitive and Sean Payton finally decided to euthanize the clock to save face for the other team. By the way, two of those teams are in the playoffs.

  62. bubba9er says: Jan 4, 2012 1:57 PM

    Take this to the bank: The San Francisco 49ers will NOT lose in the first round of the playoffs! I guarantee it.

    (They don’t play in the first round, haha)

  63. dmp5687 says: Jan 4, 2012 1:58 PM

    Here’s the problem with all the Green Bay talk. Everyone, repeat everyone, including their players and coaches, are just assuming they’ll be in the title game. But my friends, if the NYG beat the ‘Cons and go to GB, all that has to happen is for Eli to get hot and the Giants’ defensive line to harass Rogers, and GB could lose! It’s different being a #1 seed where everybody EXPECTS you to win versus a #6 seed where you have nothing to lose, like last year.

  64. lanski5 says: Jan 4, 2012 2:07 PM

    The Saints are going down to (on) the 9ers.

    Riddle me this, why do some of the worst teams appear to have the best defenses? Answer, because they play in crappy divisions against opponents who have bad offenses. Example AFC west. Not one of those teams have a respectable offense, well OK maybe the Chargers.

  65. ilovefoolsball says: Jan 4, 2012 2:08 PM

    This has been one of the best smack talking comment threads of the year, I love it!

    I especially loved the responses from boisestatewhodat to everyone else.

    It’s going to be a wild run and if the Saints can make it to Indy this year then there will be no doubt about their dominance.

    However if they lose to the Lions this week or the Niners/GB the haters will come out of the woodwork with the “I told you so’s”.

    One thing is for sure, if you’re saying the Saints are all “for show” you sure as hell don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.

    You don’t dominate NFL TEAMS for as many games as the Saints have and be all “for show”, dome or no dome.

  66. fantom21 says: Jan 4, 2012 2:11 PM

    Stop bashing the Skins players! The team was 3-1 before the injury bug hit hard. They didn’t have much depth to begin with but due to all the injuries, all but one draft pick( Jenkins) got playing time and about half of them will either be starters or get plenty of playing time come next season. Believe it or not, the skins are actually one qb(manning, luck, griffin, tannehill) and a couple of playmakers at receiver( Djax, Bowe, Wayne) away from winning the NFC east. We beat the giants twice. Once when they were hurt and once when we were hurt. The skins will definitely be in the run next year.

  67. Deb says: Jan 4, 2012 2:14 PM

    I’m fine with where you have my Steelers. But you were way too hard on the Bears and a little too hard on the Texans. Those teams would have ranked much higher but for losing their quarterbacks to injury. And at 8-8, the Broncos deserved to rank above the 6-10 Panthers. Come on.

  68. txtuff says: Jan 4, 2012 3:39 PM

    49ers and Ravens have the two most complete teams in the NFL. I can easily see them two in the Super Bowl.

  69. boisestatewhodat says: Jan 4, 2012 3:59 PM

    Chris man…don’t be so bitter. We do put on a show…we do this because we relish in the fact that we’re the most endearing fan base in the NFL…don’t hate man. WHO DAT never hurt nobody…lol!

  70. pete4mtx says: Jan 4, 2012 4:40 PM

    For those who say Ravens over NINERS cuz they beat them…well da jags beat da Ravens should they b ahead of da ravens …stupid right? ???

  71. listenupcupcake says: Jan 4, 2012 4:52 PM

    Ok, here’s the re-ranking, based on how the teams rank today, regard less of final records or playoffs:
    1 – GB
    2 – NO
    3 – NE
    4 – Balt
    5 – SF
    6 – Pitt
    7 – Det
    8 – Atl
    9 – Tex
    10 – NYG
    11 – Cinn
    12 – Phl
    13 – SD
    14 – Tenn
    15 – Ariz
    16 – Dal
    17 – KC
    18 – Den
    19 – Sea
    20 – Car
    21 – Chi
    22 – Mia
    23 – Oak
    24 – NYJ
    25 – Buf
    26 – Jax
    27 – Min
    28 – Wash
    29 – StL
    30 – Cle
    31 – Ind
    32 – TB

    You’re welcome. :) HNY!

  72. bubba9er says: Jan 4, 2012 4:57 PM

    Isn’t it “Who dey? We dey!” I guess I don’t speak Hatian Creole like they do in “Nahlins”.

    How are you a Boise State fan and a Saints fan? I’m from Boise (BSU class of 2010) and I don’t even know one Saints fan from around here. Who the heck are you and why are you so mad about what they are saying about your Saints? At least they are talking about them. You could still be the “Aints”… look on the bright side…

  73. boisestatewhodat says: Jan 4, 2012 5:28 PM

    Well bubba, since you asked. I was born, raised and currently live and work just north of New Orleans…been a Saints fan all my life. However, I don’t really care about what others say about the Saints. I was stationed at Mountain Home Air Force Base for 7 years and lived in Boise during that time. I met my wife there and got married in Star. I fell in love with the Broncos from Boise State during that time…so, in short, that’s ‘who the heck I am’. Who the heck are you?

  74. boisestatewhodat says: Jan 4, 2012 5:30 PM

    And no bubba its not ‘dey’, never was. That’s for silly Bungle fans and you spelled N’awlins wrong.

  75. jimboslice208 says: Jan 4, 2012 5:36 PM

    The Saints are the most endearing fan base in the NFL?? Really? Seems like just yesterday, the Saints were the Aints and half the stadium was empty and the other half had bags over their head. I love how Saints fans bring up their road record over the past three years. The years prior to this one are irrelevant. Last year the Niners were 6-10, Tampa was a pretty good team, Raiders fans said Superbowl 2011, and none of us had experienced Tebowmania. This is 2011. The Saints lost on the road to Tampa and the great AJ Feeley led Rams. Saints are a scary team at home without question. NO, if they get past Detroit, has to go through SF then most likely GB. So lets quit anointing them the superbowl champs already and let the playoffs unfold

  76. boisestatewhodat says: Jan 4, 2012 6:08 PM

    Not anointing them and even when we sucked…for like 37 years, the dome was never half full man. That’s just it…for 37 long years of being the NFLs doormat, we’re finally good. But, we were there through thick and thin.

  77. jessethegreat says: Jan 4, 2012 6:15 PM

    listenupcupcake says:
    Jan 4, 2012 4:52 PM
    Ok, here’s the re-ranking, based on how the teams rank today, regard less of final records or playoffs:
    1 – GB
    2 – NO

    ——————————————————-
    You can stop right there. Pats are and should be ahead of the Aints. Brees may have thrown for a few more yards than Brady this year IN A DOME, but to rank his team above Brady’s is downright stupid. Show a little respect for Brady and Belichick. Brady is more accurate, plays in all conditions, is more demanding of his teammates than any other player in the league, and has walked the walk numerous times. Brees is a one and done. After Suh stomps on him (if he makes it thru that game) Pat Willis is going to knock that hairy animal off the side of his face and end all you Aints fans wet dream about a Lombardi this year.

  78. cdsaints says: Jan 4, 2012 6:25 PM

    The reason Saints fans bring up the last 3 years when talking about road games is because that’s when we got Greg Williams and the coaching staff became “whole”. He hasn’t exactly resurrected the dome patrol defense, but he has definitely improved the ‘D, which is what the “Sean Payton Era” Saints had been missing in 06-08. Since 09, they have been elite, and yes, the best road team in the NFL despite what the talking heads like to say. Yes they are better at home, but what team isn’t???

  79. cdsaints says: Jan 4, 2012 6:31 PM

    jessethegreat says:
    Jan 4, 2012 6:15 PM

    Brady is more accurate

    —–

    OK, now YOU stop right there. Brady is not more accurate. Brees broke his own record for passing accuracy this season. He now holds the #1 and #2 spot for accuracy for NFL QBs…litany of others….

    They have the same record, but the Saints have a better run game and a slightly better defense. Brady and Brees are both great, but Brees had a much better year this year.

    Go look up what happened the last time Brady and Beli went up against the Saints.

  80. kinguga says: Jan 4, 2012 6:32 PM

    7. Falcons (No. 9; 10-6): Quarterback Matt Ryan won’t be taken seriously until he wins a playoff game. He won’t win on Sunday if he tries too hard to win with his arm.

    Actually, the whole team won’t be taken seriously until it wins a playoff game. Even then, they’d likely face the Pack at Lambeau in the next round and get housed. The only way the Falcons will get respect is if they go out there and take it. They’ve been hyped up too much the last few offseasons.

  81. jessethegreat says: Jan 4, 2012 7:15 PM

    OK, now YOU stop right there. Brady is not more accurate. Brees broke his own record for passing accuracy this season. He now holds the #1 and #2 spot for accuracy for NFL QBs…litany of others….

    ——————————————————–
    Only because Brees dinks and dunks to Sproles and Bush previously. Brady has never had near as many picks as Brees. Where Brady intends his targets to go, they go. Brees has consistently thrown multiple pick games his entire career. Look at their career numbers. Brady has less picks than Brees in a few more years playing.

  82. Deb says: Jan 4, 2012 7:33 PM

    @boisestatewhodat …

    Sorry, but only Saints fans find themselves endearing. Only Cheeseheads think their hats are cute. Only Jets fans think their coach is entertaining. Only Cowboys fans think they’re America’s Team. Only Steelers fans care about our six Lombardis. No other fan base thinks yours or any other is the most endearing fan base in the NFL.

  83. childressrulz says: Jan 4, 2012 8:09 PM

    boisestatewhodat says: Jan 4, 2012 5:28 PM

    Well bubba, since you asked. I was born, raised and currently live and work just north of New Orleans…been a Saints fan all my life. However, I don’t really care about what others say about the Saints. I was stationed at Mountain Home Air Force Base for 7 years and lived in Boise during that time. I met my wife there and got married in Star. I fell in love with the Broncos from Boise State during that time…so, in short, that’s ‘who the heck I am’. Who the heck are you?
    _________________________
    Forgot to mention that you are completely retarded as well. The Saints already lost to the Packers once. As a Packer fan I hope the Saints beat the niners it should be an easier win in Lambeau the following week.

  84. packersweep says: Jan 4, 2012 8:33 PM

    cdsaints says:
    Jan 4, 2012 6:25 PM

    Since 09, they have been elite, and yes, the best road team in the NFL despite what the talking heads like to say.

    ————————————————–

    Wouldn`t the best road team in the NFL have won in Seattle in the playoffs last year? Green Bay won their 3 road playoff games.

  85. whodeybytches says: Jan 4, 2012 10:55 PM

    Let me tell u something Ravens, the only ones who beat the Bengals were the refs that game. The ENTIRE game they screwed us. I actually love ur team and wish u guys werent in our division but that game was the worst excuse for officiating I’ve seen in my entire life! Even ur fans who were at that game admitted it . I really hope u guys go deep but I can only say, we SHOULD go deeper because of BOTH GAMES we got screwed because of the refs this year. (Greashams call back/touchdown too) ………. B.S.

  86. cdsaints says: Jan 4, 2012 11:30 PM

    jessethegreat says:
    Jan 4, 2012 7:15 PM

    Only because Brees dinks and dunks to Sproles and Bush previously. Brady has never had near as many picks as Brees

    ==================

    You know you’ve lost once you say “only because”.

    Tom’s got a whopping 2 less INTs this year and had 2 more in 2009.

    You sure are bad at this. If you’re going to have an opinion and assert it like a bafoon, at least have one which isn’t so easily proven factually inaccurate.

  87. bealeman says: Jan 5, 2012 8:12 AM

    Dude, there are at LEAST 8 teams behind Dallas that shouldn’t be. C’mon man.

  88. klownboy says: Jan 5, 2012 8:46 AM

    My top ten:

    New Orleans Saints
    Green Bay Packers
    San Francisco 49ers
    Baltimore Ravens
    Pittsburgh Steelers
    New England Patriots
    Detroit Lions
    Atlanta Falcons
    Cincinnati Bengals
    Houston Texans

  89. blu4l1fe says: Jan 5, 2012 11:16 AM

    I love how all the fans of the “non-playoff” teams seem to make all the “right” excuses for their team not making the playoffs. Great example is the Skin fans stating that the team started the season 3-1 and then regressed really due to the injury bug. And, that the team is a quarterback and a few playmakers away from winning the NFC East. WOW!!! You essentially described a few other teams in the NFL. Please, can we get away from the generalizations or, simply, the ASSumptions. Each team good or not face the same type of adversity each season. To test the strength of the team, is to see how they come out of these same adversity. If they fall out, much like the Skins, then they are just not that good then. Come on, give all of us a break. I understand you passion but just come on, really, that is your argument why the Skins didn’t make the playoffs? You have to present something better than that, because it seems like if it is not the QB or the injury issue, it’s the Coach or the schedule issue. Come on, something’s got to give. I’ll even wait till next season to see when the Skins don’t make the playoffs again, to see which excuse we’ll all hear from their fans.

  90. gisellichek says: Jan 5, 2012 12:14 PM

    @southpaw2k…

    Pats Vs Ravens … AFC Championship Game…

    Good Luck Raven’s fan… Don’t think for one second this will be a cake walk into INDY… it won’t… I expect a great game and the team that makes the fewest mistakes (turnovers penalties) wins…

    Steelers are hurtin and do not worry me … There is not way they come into Foxboro and beat Brady and Co…

    BTW… Do not look past Houston… They got a good team…

  91. cowboycjn says: Jan 6, 2012 8:14 AM

    I love reading all the BS you guys are preaching. Ranting and raving about this team or that- truth is you are scared silly. People tend to start bull crap about the team they most fear, so why all the worry about the Saints if you are not fearful of them? Nuff said!

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