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Cutler was in favor of Martz’s departure

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Norv Turner’s relationship with Philip Rivers may have helped Turner keep his job in San Diego.

In Chicago, Jay Cutler’s relationship with Mike Martz helped push Martz out the door.  Martz “retired” but his contract was up this month. He wasn’t going to be brought back.

In a report that is sure to be denied by Cutler eventually, Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune writes that Cutler met with coach Lovie Smith Tuesday to let Smith know he was in favor of “moving on without Martz.”

Cutler wasn’t a fan of Martz’s hiring in the first place, but it appeared the two men had a productive working relationship. Cutler was playing great football in Martz’s system this season.

Still, we’ve heard countless reports now that Martz wasn’t a popular figure in Halas Hall with players or other members of the organization.

This will be Cutler’s third offensive coordinator in four years. Biggs points out that Lovie Smith now has 28 ex-assistant coaches that have worked with him in Chicago.

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  1. bbrophy1 says: Jan 5, 2012 10:08 AM

    Cutler wasn’t in favor of taking 30 hits per game? Shocking

  2. broncobeta says: Jan 5, 2012 10:09 AM

    Cutler has yelled at his QB coach, whined his way out of Denver, got his offensive coordinator fired, and is marrying Kristen Cav.

    I got nothing good to say about this guy.

  3. otis52gsh says: Jan 5, 2012 10:10 AM

    28 ex assistance yet he still has a job. Does nobody else see a problem with this? Seems very clear to me that lovie must go.

  4. rajbais says: Jan 5, 2012 10:11 AM

    I am on board with Cutler!!!

    Let’s get Jim Fassel or Jeremy Bates!!!

  5. berniemadoffsides says: Jan 5, 2012 10:11 AM

    Time to fire Lovie. I don’t understand how this guy keeps flying under the “hot seat” radar.

  6. comeonnowguys says: Jan 5, 2012 10:11 AM

    After two years of empty-back sets with seven-step drops behind a turnstyle offensive line with no opportunity to audible out of it… is anyone actually surprised?

  7. notrelated says: Jan 5, 2012 10:11 AM

    Eagles will gladly take him over Morningwood.

  8. thetooloftools says: Jan 5, 2012 10:13 AM

    I have to say, I’m not a Cutler fan, but I 100% agree with him about Martz needing to go.
    His next team will also need to give a set of sideline headphone to Martz’s ego.

  9. ronniemackatl says: Jan 5, 2012 10:14 AM

    So that makes 2 coaches Cutler couldn’t get along with..

  10. nflfootballjunkie says: Jan 5, 2012 10:15 AM

    Hardly news, after all he did tell him “F#@k you” on national TV.

  11. anyslacking says: Jan 5, 2012 10:17 AM

    I’b be in favour too, if the guy’s offensive system was getting me beaten up every Sunday.

  12. 7to10for6allday says: Jan 5, 2012 10:17 AM

    Maybe it’s not the assistants, maybe it’s the lack of an O line and the lack of WR? Roy Williams, Hester and Knox are terrible.

  13. ijr213 says: Jan 5, 2012 10:17 AM

    Production aside, Martz’s system made it so that Cutler was getting killed by defenses. Cutler had to evolve his game significantly so he wouldn’t get killed week in and week out. What didn’t help was Jerry Angelo ignoring bringing in capable linemen or receivers.

  14. 700levelvet says: Jan 5, 2012 10:20 AM

    Hell, Cutler sure has alot to say for a QB, who has accomplished nothing……..Well, except being a drama queen

  15. ahs2 says: Jan 5, 2012 10:20 AM

    28 ex-assistant coaches?!?!…sounds like someone needs to consider cutting off the head of that snake!!

  16. hiperactivodg says: Jan 5, 2012 10:20 AM

    “Lovie Smith now has 28 ex-assistant coaches that have worked with him in Chicago” I think that just confirms Lovie keeps blaming every other person but himself, and it certainly looks like it’s working.

  17. punkyqb says: Jan 5, 2012 10:21 AM

    How many times did Cutler get sacked in that game last year against the Giants before he left with that concussion? That should about say it all!

  18. anyslacking says: Jan 5, 2012 10:24 AM

    @notrelated. Wow what a thought greatest show on turf/Mike Vick Show. How would you stop that?

  19. Foresight2011 says: Jan 5, 2012 10:25 AM

    Cutler was in favor of Martz’s departure

    _____________________

    In other news the sky is blue and the grass is green.

  20. thefiesty1 says: Jan 5, 2012 10:28 AM

    Three different coordinator in four years. No wonder the Bears can’t improve.

  21. asublimeday says: Jan 5, 2012 10:29 AM

    File this under “duh!”

  22. asublimeday says: Jan 5, 2012 10:33 AM

    All the morons saying fire lovie: he keeps his job because he has three playoff appearances, three playoff wins, a Super Bowl appearance, and an NFC championship appearance in which they nearly beat the eventual champions less than 12 months ago.

    Watch some football. He’s a good coach.

  23. mvp43 says: Jan 5, 2012 10:34 AM

    It doesn’t take a genius to know that 7 step drop backs with no O-line and average to below average receivers is not a good thing……

    That worked in St Louis because you had Holt, Bruce, Pace and Faulk and turf.

  24. mikeeg says: Jan 5, 2012 10:37 AM

    Who cares what Cutler thinks. Go ride your workout bike on the sidelines, guy.

  25. htimsr40 says: Jan 5, 2012 10:37 AM

    Cutler had his best two seasons from a W/L perspective under Martz, but didn’t get to throw as much as he did going 8-8 with Denver in 2008. He wanted to get rid of the coach who helped him win. That’s all you need to know about Cutler.

  26. metalhead65 says: Jan 5, 2012 10:42 AM

    Cutler was playing well in spite of the system not because of it. martz had to told to shorten the drops and run the ball more last year and the bears went to nfc championship game because of it. so what does he do to start his year? the very same thing and the bears start out terrible again. once again he is told to run a balanced offense and what do you know the bears went on a 5 game win streak until Cutler got hurt. face it the turf playbook has not won since his days with the rams and stopped working there when the pro bowlers he had got old. to expect it to work on grass with nobody other than Cutler talented enough to run it shows what a ego he has. just hope the bears can get somebody who knows what they are doing this time. somebody who is smart enough to let cutler roll out like he did in denver where he set records. and somebody who will let him audible when he sees the play called will not work. they do not need a run and shoot offense just one that is not so predictable and fits the players they have and not make them fit a system that does not work.

  27. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Jan 5, 2012 10:44 AM

    I can’t believe how many Chicago fans are still defending Martz and tearing down Lovie AFTER this report. Martz is nothing but a back-stabbing egomaniac who thinks he should run everything (except the football). If you want to site reasons to get rid of Lovie, site something BETTER than this!

  28. westmantooth says: Jan 5, 2012 10:44 AM

    Totally Martz’s fault. And the O-line. And the turf. And the receivers.

    And before Martz, it was Ron Turner. And the receivers. And the O-line. But then replacing Turner with Martz, it was going to be okay. Except it wasn’t.

    When he was in Denver, it was poor O-line play. Then Clady came along, and the O-line got better, then it was the defense. But then they fired his QB Coach and he asked for a trade.

    Basically, at the end of the day, Cutler is so amazing that he should have whatever he wants: The OC of his choice, a top flight defense, big-time WR’s, high-end O-line… and eventually he’ll be successful. And at that point, he’ll probably even play hurt.

    Until then, the excuses will continue.

  29. Pacific NW Mark says: Jan 5, 2012 10:45 AM

    It might be easier to list who was in favor of Martz’s staying. Just sayin’.

  30. lrt79 says: Jan 5, 2012 10:46 AM

    htimsr40 says: Jan 5, 2012 10:37 AM

    Cutler had his best two seasons from a W/L perspective under Martz, but didn’t get to throw as much as he did going 8-8 with Denver in 2008. He wanted to get rid of the coach who helped him win. That’s all you need to know about Cutler.
    ————

    What, pray tell, did Martz help Cutler win? NFC North last year? With the 30th ranked offense in the league? A one-way-ticket to a sprained MCL, killing his chance of helping the Bears in the NFCCG?

    The most sacked QB award?

    Get a clue, dude.

  31. clavette says: Jan 5, 2012 10:46 AM

    Correct me if im wrong but didn’t the bears try to get a number of different OC’s before martz but none of them wanted to deal with cutler?

  32. vikingdoode says: Jan 5, 2012 10:59 AM

    Mike Tice could be a good OC…… Just saying

  33. pencepost says: Jan 5, 2012 11:00 AM

    “Biggs points out that Lovie Smith now has 28 ex-assistant coaches that have worked with him in Chicago.”

    This is a loaded statement seemingly intended to make Lovie Smith look like a bad coach. I didn’t see this written anywhere in the linked article by Biggs but that doesn’t mean it’s not true. The Bears had 16 assistant coaches on staff this year, which I’m assuming is typical for an NFL team. Lovie has coached the Bears for 8 years, so losing 28 over the that span is only 3.5 per year. With assistant coaches frequently on short-term contracts and always seeking promotions or raises, losing only 3 or 4 out of 16 per year actually seems pretty good.

    Rosenthal, if you’re going to make a statement like this to suggest Lovie is a poor head coach, please do the research to find out more telling information: How many of those were coordinators? How many were fired vs. left willingly for a promotion or raise? How many ex-assistants have other comparable coaches worked with?

  34. denverdude7 says: Jan 5, 2012 11:05 AM

    Well, the whining, sniveling, spoiled little brat Cutler gets his way again.

    One more temper tantrum and truth will be clearly visible to all what an immature brat Cutler really is.

  35. happster says: Jan 5, 2012 11:07 AM

    Of course, he’s a diva with marginal skills who has an attitude problem with authority figures. We assume that he is glad the authority figures are the scapegoats, don’t we?

  36. bearfan78 says: Jan 5, 2012 11:11 AM

    Enough with the 28 assistants dig. He’s been the head coach for 8 seasons! It’s an average of 3.5 per year. Turnover happens in the NFL. 28 also includes coaches that left on their own for jobs with other teams.

    When a team employs 12+ assistants (OC, DC, position coaches, quality control, etc), that’s about 25% turnover every year. It happens.

    No coach wants to stay an assistant forever – most have head coaching aspirations. The only way to move up is someone has to move out (you, or the guy ahead of you).

    If you want to be concerned, be concerned about the turnover in coordinators – but even that is really minimal. Good ones become head coaches. Bad ones get fired.

  37. purpleguy says: Jan 5, 2012 11:11 AM

    Look, Martz is a putz, but does Cutler really get along with anybody?

  38. wenellniners says: Jan 5, 2012 11:11 AM

    i’m not a jay cutler fan but i can’t stand the unfounded hating on the guy.

    say what you will about him, that game he played against detroit this year was one of the finest qb performances i’ve ever seen. considering the play-calling was had and the protection was horrible, the guy kept finding ways to make plays. they eventually lost the game but you can’t discount the effort.

    watch the film, this guy can play the game and he was playing at a high level before he was injured. look what happened the bears after he went down.

  39. jeffblast36 says: Jan 5, 2012 11:12 AM

    can’t blame jay for wanting to play a full season.

  40. pburnin says: Jan 5, 2012 11:13 AM

    @ Wesmantooth

    If you’re saying the worst offensive line in the league and probably the most pathetic wide receiving core in the league would not have an effect on quarterback play then you are clearly misinformed. Ron Turner also once called 3 consecutive FB dives to Jason McKie. Enough said.

  41. dfeltz says: Jan 5, 2012 11:14 AM

    All, Lovie Smith has not been in charge of player personnel. Jerry Angelo is one of the sole reasons why Chicago hasn’t improved their skill positions or O-line. For a team that would have been 12-4 heading into the postseason this year, would have been playoff bound 3 of the last 5 years. I’m not saying Lovie is Lombardi, but there are current head coaches in this league that are not better than Lovie.

  42. loungefly74 says: Jan 5, 2012 11:16 AM

    Martz has enough credentials to get a job elsewhere…

  43. glac1 says: Jan 5, 2012 11:17 AM

    Lovie is the problem in Chicago. Where does the buck stop?? You can’t always point fingers and blame others…unless your obama.

  44. CKL says: Jan 5, 2012 11:20 AM

    Cutler is a huge DB, but a QB shouldn’t have to go to the OC and beg him to change stuff so he doesn’t get killed out there.

    The dynamics of Lovie having worked FOR Martz and Martz then working for him probably didn’t help either. Strange situation that didn’t look like it would end well from the get-go.

  45. yevrag3535 says: Jan 5, 2012 11:20 AM

    Cutler is a cancer and a quitter plain and simple.

  46. pacificamjr says: Jan 5, 2012 11:21 AM

    We LOVE lovie, hope he coaches 20 more years there.

    - Lions Nation

  47. schuta07 says: Jan 5, 2012 11:23 AM

    I find it amusing to read all the comments about Lovie. Head coaching in the NFL is about management of your staff, players and the game. He didn’t choose the players, and the guy who did is gone. Players like playing for him because he’s a good communicator and builds solid relationships with them. He’s also not an ego-driven HC–look at his willingness to hire former HC’s as coordinators. And gee whiz, he seems to get along just fine with his QB. Peppers wanted to go to Chicago for a reason–the culture. Your naive if you think that doesn’t have a lot to do with Lovie.

    And you Cutler bashers are either short-sighted or you’re still bitter Bronco fans because you know darn well that he’s better than anybody else they’ve trotted out since he was traded.

    The Bears need an OC who is flexible and creative and a GM who can identify star-type talent. Simple plan. Hard to execute. Call Todd Haley and do whatever you can to pry DeCosta from the Ravens.

  48. berbes says: Jan 5, 2012 11:23 AM

    they haven’t fired teddy “family man” phillips yet??

    you HAVE to start at the seedy top and work your way down.

  49. roc2012 says: Jan 5, 2012 11:26 AM

    Warner made Martz’s rep, then Martz left him hanging due to the multiple concussions Warner got from playing in Martz’s system. Great rewards if you don’t get killed, but after Warner’s concussions with the Rams everyone thought he was a flash in the pan destined to be a career back-up to Eli and Leinhart. Took him what, about 4 years to recover from the beating he took in Martz’s system to return to form. Martz’s system is a QB killer.

  50. mrplow3 says: Jan 5, 2012 11:27 AM

    Pushed into early retirement eh?

    You know, I hate the word “karma” but there really is no better word to describe this:

    Remember Martz pushing the great Dick Vermeil into early retirement when the Rams were the greatest show on turf?

    The irony is delicious.

  51. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 5, 2012 11:30 AM

    Nice to see the inmates are running the asylum in Chicago. That always seems to work out wonderfully.

  52. asublimeday says: Jan 5, 2012 11:37 AM

    Correct me if im wrong but didn’t the bears try to get a number of different OC’s before martz but none of them wanted to deal with cutler?
    ————

    You are wrong. They were worried lovie would be fired at the end of the season. They made the champ game, so he was not.

  53. asublimeday says: Jan 5, 2012 11:40 AM

    Lots of crying bitter Denver fans here. Cutler has been nothing but a stand-up dude in Chicago.

  54. brenenostler says: Jan 5, 2012 11:40 AM

    Why does everyone hate Mike Martz? Cutler was playing his best football under him.

  55. comeonnowguys says: Jan 5, 2012 11:49 AM

    he’s a diva with marginal skills

    You can say a lot of unflattering things a lot of things about Cutler, and most of them would be presumably true.

    But to pretend he doesn’t have a world-class arm, excellent mobility and a top-tier physical skillset just shows off that dull axe you need to grind.

    Teams didn’t get into a bidding war over him when he wanted out of Denver because they thought he was a swell guy.

  56. philtration says: Jan 5, 2012 11:51 AM

    anyslacking says: Jan 5, 2012 10:24 AM

    @notrelated. Wow what a thought greatest show on turf/Mike Vick Show. How would you stop that?
    ====================================

    By letting the Eagles run it.

  57. edavidberg says: Jan 5, 2012 11:51 AM

    For people wanting Lovie fired, have you actually watched the NFL this year? Have you seen all the bad coaches out there? Or did you watch the Bears before he got there (Wannstedt and Jauron were overmatched in every single game they coached)? There aren’t that many solid coaches in the NFL but Lovie is one of them. He has his weaknesses as they all do but when you consider all the bad coaches out there why would you want to risk hiring another one when the one you have now took you to the NFC title game last year without an O line or decent wide receiver, and had you 7-3 before Cutler went down. I’m not happy that GMs may not want to come here because they can’t pick their coach, but I’d still rather keep Lovie than start all over.

  58. philtration says: Jan 5, 2012 11:55 AM

    yevrag3535 says: Jan 5, 2012 11:20 AM

    Cutler is a cancer and a quitter plain and simple.
    ====================================
    You don’t what you are talking about and just repeat what you are told to think on the Internet.
    Plain and simple.

  59. bearsfan4life says: Jan 5, 2012 11:55 AM

    Are Cutler haters delusional?

    Guy gets drafted and plays his butt off for his organization. They have a great offense and garbage defense and miss the playoffs because the defense can’t make a stop.

    Never once did he make an excuse other than point the finger at himself. He could have said the truth but he chose to be the bigger man. He busts up a finger on his throwing hand and the team loses…. the media keeps asking if his finger was the reason the team lost and he gets mad at them for trying to make excuses.

    Imagine GB bringing in a new coach after the loss to the Cardinals in the playoffs and his first move is to try to trade Rodgers…. stupid right? Rodgers wasn’t the problem. (Cutler is not on Rodgers level. Rodgers is clearly better).

    In comes new coach and the guys first move is to try to get rid of the best quarterback since the hall of famer retired. Cutler sees it as the lack of loyalty that it is. Of course he’s going to be mad. Said coach then dismantles the offense and brings in a RB to play QB, gets rid of the WR, TE & RB. STUPID!

    Smoke and mirrors and 6 games later he appears to know what he’s doing…. wrong! Orton is just good enough to get you beat.

    3 years later the team is 8-8 and in the playoffs but anyone watching sees there is a big asterik.

    Cutler sprains a knee ligament and he’s a quitter. Forte does the same thing less than a year later and the Cutler haters don’t say a word.

    Cutler gets killed behind his turnstyle offensive line and doesn’t say a word. He has no WR’s. And please spare me any Knox love…. the guy is garbage. He catches the ball with his body because he has no hands. His route running is terrible. He won’t turn into a DB if the QB makes a bad throw. He was fast for sure. He made some big plays. He’s garbage. He wouldn’t make the Packers practice squad.

    Haters gonna hate.

  60. rajbais says: Jan 5, 2012 11:55 AM

    I agree with Cutler!!!

    Martz put him through a mess!!! Two straight offenses that had NONE of Martz’s handwriting on them!!!

    Good luck finding a job now, Mike!!!

  61. yevrag3535 says: Jan 5, 2012 11:56 AM

    Cutler sucks, never won a thing.

  62. philtration says: Jan 5, 2012 11:59 AM

    denverdude7 says: Jan 5, 2012 11:05 AM

    Well, the whining, sniveling, spoiled little brat Cutler gets his way again.
    ====================================

    And the whining, sniveling, spoiled fans in Denver got their way and have Tim Tebow as the QB.
    He is one of the worst QBs I have even seen and you love him while bashing the guy that you once had.

    Jay Cutler can fart a better pass then Tebow can throw and you don’t know the difference.

  63. pandebailey says: Jan 5, 2012 12:03 PM

    So Cutler wasn’t thrilled playing for WonderBoy Josh McDaniels because he snuck around and tried to trade him or for Crazy Mike Martz who tried to get him killed……
    and THAT makes Cutler a difficult, whiney QB who can’t play for anybody? Got it.

  64. lrt79 says: Jan 5, 2012 12:04 PM

    pacificamjr says: Jan 5, 2012 11:21 AM

    We LOVE lovie, hope he coaches 20 more years there.

    - Lions Nation
    ——————–

    Why, are you happy with the 11-5 record Lovie has against the Lions?

    I’ll be happy to watch Lovie’s Bears keep kicking the teeth down your dirty team and nutjob coach’s throat for years to come if you are.

  65. 46defense says: Jan 5, 2012 12:11 PM

    “We LOVE lovie, hope he coaches 20 more years there.

    - Lions Nation”

    ———————————————————

    Ummmmmm, He’s like 14-4 against you guys, including a beatdown in Chicago this year… nice try guy.

  66. kenrw1 says: Jan 5, 2012 12:11 PM

    Uh oh ! This man coaches like Jack Del Rio, he blames everything on his assistant coaches and throws them under the bus to save his own neck. Did Del Rio even go through as many coaches as this man?

  67. seeschool says: Jan 5, 2012 12:16 PM

    “Totally Martz’s fault. And the O-line. And the turf. And the receivers.

    And before Martz, it was Ron Turner. And the receivers. And the O-line. But then replacing Turner with Martz, it was going to be okay. Except it wasn’t.

    When he was in Denver, it was poor O-line play. Then Clady came along, and the O-line got better, then it was the defense. But then they fired his QB Coach and he asked for a trade.

    Basically, at the end of the day, Cutler is so amazing that he should have whatever he wants: The OC of his choice, a top flight defense, big-time WR’s, high-end O-line… and eventually he’ll be successful. And at that point, he’ll probably even play hurt.

    Until then, the excuses will continue.”

    Excuses for what? The team was 7-3 and well on their way to making the playoffs. The team was 11-5 the previous year, won the division and played in the NFC Championship Game.

    Cutler was supporting this move because Mike Martz refused to accept the fact that the Bears do not have the personnel to run his offense, and he refused to make the modifications necessary without an annual intervetion by Smith, Cutler and Mike Tice. This was not Mike Martz’ offense that the Bears were operating when they went on their 5 game winning streak, it was a hybrid of Martz’ offense and an offense that Tice/Cutler had tinkered with.

  68. lockoftheweak says: Jan 5, 2012 12:16 PM

    FWIW Belichick has stated a Mike Martz offense is one of the most difficult to defend.
    But if your players don’t buy into it, kinda tough to execute….

  69. Christian says: Jan 5, 2012 12:22 PM

    28 former Lovie Smith assistants? That’s quite a coaching tree…

  70. cgalaxy says: Jan 5, 2012 12:23 PM

    westmantooth says:
    Jan 5, 2012 10:44 AM
    Totally Martz’s fault. And the O-line. And the turf. And the receivers.

    And before Martz, it was Ron Turner. And the receivers. And the O-line. But then replacing Turner with Martz, it was going to be okay. Except it wasn’t.

    When he was in Denver, it was poor O-line play. Then Clady came along, and the O-line got better, then it was the defense. But then they fired his QB Coach and he asked for a trade.

    Basically, at the end of the day, Cutler is so amazing that he should have whatever he wants: The OC of his choice, a top flight defense, big-time WR’s, high-end O-line… and eventually he’ll be successful. And at that point, he’ll probably even play hurt.

    Until then, the excuses will continue.

    ==================================

    I’m not a Bears or Cutler fan, but I don’t remember anyone being excited about Martz’s hiring a few years ago, let alone Cutler. Martz wasn’t even one of the Bears’ top candidates. Most people were skeptical of Martz in Chicago from the get-go.

  71. alewatcher says: Jan 5, 2012 12:27 PM

    Martz was a real head-scratcher of a hire from day 1. The Bears are traditionally a ground and pound offense, not an aerial assault. Martz big problem is not being able (or willing) to adjust his schemes to fit the talent (or lack thereof) available to him.

    The Bears have a highly suspect O-line, and without serious protection, there is no way any QB can survive the Martz system. Cutler had a good season, and was amazing throwing on the run. Of course, he had a lot of practice at throwing on the run, since he usually had the defense in his grill about 2 seconds after the ball was snapped.

  72. cardmagnet says: Jan 5, 2012 12:33 PM

    Which is funny, because I’m sure Martz (and many Bears fans) are in favor of his departure so that they can get a good quarterback.

  73. starderup says: Jan 5, 2012 12:45 PM

    Coaching consistency is overrated. At least for teams that don’t understand it.

  74. Nevis says: Jan 5, 2012 12:45 PM

    Just like the 49ers, the Bears never had the personnel to run Martz’s offense with any degree of success or consistency.

    Martz’s system is dated now….too many 7-step drops, asks the Oline to block for too long and needs the right WRs, which Chicago never had.

    Maybe he should try being an analyst.

  75. Awol.West says: Jan 5, 2012 12:50 PM

    Chicago Bears offseason preview and things to come: awolwest.wordpress.com/2012/01/03/chicago-bears-talk/

  76. snowpea84 says: Jan 5, 2012 12:51 PM

    Martz is extremely over rated. Without hall of famers sprinkled at every position on offense what has he actually done other than get QB’s beat up week in and week out?

  77. gmen1987 says: Jan 5, 2012 12:58 PM

    Martz has been a cancer where ever he went. He was a cancer in St. Louis, Detroit, and San Francisco. Would be no surprise to hear he was a cancer in Chicago. He just kept his mouth closed more often in Chicago so we didn’t know what kind of trouble he was causing.

  78. FinFan68 says: Jan 5, 2012 1:03 PM

    anyslacking says:
    @notrelated. Wow what a thought greatest show on turf/Mike Vick Show. How would you stop that?
    ————————-
    There’s no way Vick could be successful in that offense. He relies on athletic ability; it takes smarts to learn and execute Martz’ offensive scheme.

     

  79. illiniftw says: Jan 5, 2012 1:03 PM

    Why do people enjoy hating on Cutler so much? Was he that bad during his time in Denver? I really like him as the Bears QB! Nice to finally have a franchise QB!

  80. lgwelsh1 says: Jan 5, 2012 1:20 PM

    Jay was getting pummeled in that offense, takes a while for some of those plays develop. The Bears also did not have the blocking or receivers to make the most of those schemes work with consistency.

    This change probably added 3 years to Jay’s career.

  81. brennankm46 says: Jan 5, 2012 1:26 PM

    broncobeta says: Jan 5, 2012 10:09 AM

    Cutler has yelled at his QB coach, whined his way out of Denver, got his offensive coordinator fired, and is marrying Kristen Cav.

    I got nothing good to say about this guy.

    denverdude7 says: Jan 5, 2012 11:05 AM

    Well, the whining, sniveling, spoiled little brat Cutler gets his way again.

    One more temper tantrum and truth will be clearly visible to all what an immature brat Cutler really is.
    ————————————————-

    Bronco fans/trolls:
    1.) Get. Over. It. He. Left. You.
    2.) Stop being so predictably stupid.

  82. punkyqb says: Jan 5, 2012 1:47 PM

    Good to see that the Lion fans have come out of woodwork to post negative comments about the Bears. What year the did Lions last win a playoff game or even make it to the playoffs.LOL
    Also good to see the Denver fans saying bad things about Cutler, you know you would give anything to have him instead of who you have.Denver this year is pretty much the equivalent of the Seahawks making the playoffs last year.

  83. 2difshoe says: Jan 5, 2012 1:49 PM

    24-17 as a Bear QB.

    61 TD’s 48 INT’s.

    3 different offensive coordinators in 4 years, and no offensive line. SACKED 110 times, injured twice, and he is fortunate that’s not 22 times.

    Imagine his potential with an offensive.

    Calling Cutler a ‘ wuss ‘ unfair.

    Pissed would be more accurate !

  84. pencepost says: Jan 5, 2012 2:13 PM

    My hopes for the Bears:
    Get Todd Haley as OC.
    Free Agents: Vincent Jackson, upgrade at TE, backup QB.
    Draft: OL Round 1, Safety Round 2, depth at aging roster spots (LB).

    Any other thoughts on offseason goals?

  85. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Jan 5, 2012 2:53 PM

    htimsr40 says:
    Jan 5, 2012 10:37 AM

    Cutler had his best two seasons from a W/L perspective under Martz, but didn’t get to throw as much as he did going 8-8 with Denver in 2008.

    Funny, when I think of OC’s that don’t throw nearly enough, I know Mike Martz is the FIRST name that comes to my mind.

  86. leeroydiggler says: Jan 5, 2012 3:15 PM

    Cutler was 100% correct about Martz. Cutler is mobile and was one of the leagues least sacked QBs in Denver and was the opposite with Martz. It was as if Martz purposely tried to get Cutler killed.

    Cutler was 100% correct about McDaniels, who went behind his back and tried to trade him, then lied about it! Look at McDaniels now! Pray tell how Cutler was not redeemed! He ran off Brandon Marshall, Tony Sheffler, Peyton Hillis and drafted Tim Tebow in the FIRST round!

    Not one single solitary coach Cutler he has played for has ever had anything bad to say about Cutler! He is a hard worker and a leader.

    Not one single, solitary teammate has ever had anything negative to say about Cutler!

    So where does all this come from? Body language? Facial expression? Arm chair psychologists examine the guys every facial expressions and move and then extrapolate wildly. I have never seen anything like it in my life. The criticisms against Cutler are all mostly phantoms devised out of thin air.

    The guy did not torture dogs to death by the testicles and get off on it like another QB. He was never accused of rape like another QB. Yet he is vilified– based on WHAT? The look on his face? What an amazing psychological study this whole phenomenon is.

  87. bearsstillsuck says: Jan 5, 2012 3:59 PM

    Sounds like smith is the common denominator.

  88. brenenostler says: Jan 5, 2012 4:49 PM

    Cutler had never made the playoffs until Martz arrived. So good luck in the future Chicago.

  89. leeroydiggler says: Jan 5, 2012 5:52 PM

    “Cutler had never made the playoffs until Martz arrived. So good luck in the future Chicago.”

    With the 30th ranked, most sacked offense? You think Martz was responsible for getting Cutler to the playoffs? Really?

    BTW, in 08 the Broncos defense gave up an AVERAGE of 28ppg. The best record any QB has put up while giving 28ppg? 8wins by Cutler, tied with Dan Fouts and one of his 8s teams. Yeah.

    Give this guy AVERAGE protection and AVERAGE WR play and he is a to 8 QB. Put him in GB and he puts up Rodgers type #’s. Don’t believe me? Did you watch the Packers last week?

  90. theemployer says: Jan 5, 2012 10:04 PM

    @bearsfanforlife

    Can’t deny Rodgers’ abilities. Top shelf for sure.
    Cutlers better.

    Signed,
    Matt Flynn

  91. joetoronto says: Jan 6, 2012 6:39 AM

    purpleguy says:
    Jan 5, 2012 11:11 AM
    Look, Martz is a putz, but does Cutler really get along with anybody?
    ***************************************************
    There it is.

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