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Holmgren: McCoy will face quarterback competition

Mike Holmgren, Ruston Webster, Mike Reinfeldt AP

Much like Browns head coach Pat Shurmur, Browns President Mike Holmgren was measured in his evaluation of Colt McCoy during his season-ending press conference.

“My opinion of Colt hasn’t changed,” said Holmgren. “He can be, could be [a franchise quarterback]. But I’m not ready to anoint Colt yet.”

Holmgren indicated that McCoy will face competition for the starting job this year. He wouldn’t want the competition to last throughout the whole preseason, but it sounds like the Browns will not enter 2012 with McCoy locked in as starter.

G.M. Tom Heckert indicated the team is going to be focused on improving the offense this offseason. Both men stressed that they will build through the draft, and not go crazy in free agency.

Some other notes from the press conference:

1. Holmgren said the team didn’t talk to former Vikings head coach Brad Childress about a job last year. They wouldn’t rule out hiring Childress as offensive coordinator this year.

2. The Browns pleaded with fans to be patient. Holmgren expects a better record next year and believes their drafts have been productive. We agree that Holmgren and Heckert have drafted well. Cleveland holds the No. 4 overall pick and Atlanta’s first round pick this year.

3. Cleveland may have gone 4-12 this year, but Holmgren won the longest post-season press conference championship again. 75 minutes. Take that, Lurie.

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56 Responses to “Holmgren: McCoy will face quarterback competition”
  1. tom35mt says: Jan 5, 2012 12:40 PM

    I’m sure McCoy will be a great backup for years to come

  2. rr2000k says: Jan 5, 2012 12:40 PM

    Thank you Captain Obvious

  3. fittytuckin says: Jan 5, 2012 12:40 PM

    What, competition for the back up role?

  4. nflsucker says: Jan 5, 2012 12:41 PM

    RGIII at four, or he just said the right words to trade that pick for even more. There’s every reason to believe the Browns will have a killer draft.

  5. dukemarc says: Jan 5, 2012 12:42 PM

    Matt Flynn isn’t going to want to compete with McCoy for a starting job, Mike, so you better work on your sales pitch.

  6. channingtaintum says: Jan 5, 2012 12:42 PM

    what the hell is going on in that picture?

  7. redmond4480 says: Jan 5, 2012 12:43 PM

    Be patient, in 7 or 8 more years….

  8. marionbarber24isgod says: Jan 5, 2012 12:44 PM

    Does that mean we are on Favre watch again?

  9. jgrange08 says: Jan 5, 2012 12:45 PM

    So is he going to battle seneca wallace?
    IMO, the vikings will trade down bc a few teams will be looking to trade up to that #3 spot to grab rg3 bc there is some kind of consensus that is who the browns may look at

  10. sambeall says: Jan 5, 2012 12:46 PM

    Given protection, wide receivers and an actual running back it would be interesting to see what Colt was truly capable of. The Browns need to scrap their entire backfield and half of the wide receiving core. Solution: Let Hillis walk and sign Michael Bush. Find a playmaker with speed in Free Agency like Desean Jackson. Draft a true #1 WR in Justin Blackmon. Draft a speedy change of pace RB like LeMichael James. Now let’s see what Colt can do.

    Colt + Bush + James + Blackmon + Jackson + Little + Cribbs + Watson + Moore = Unstoppable

  11. pmars64 says: Jan 5, 2012 12:47 PM

    Thanks, Mike. So you’re saying we have to suffer through another “rebuilding” season as you “build through the draft.” You mean the drafts that have netted Hardesty who can’t stay healthy, trading away a future star receiver, a fullback who can’t block, and a WR who can’t get off that blocks. You mean building through that kind of draft? Sure, you’ll sign a couple of cheap free agents, but improving from four wins to six next year is just getting crapped on by the Steelers, Ravens, and Bengals again. See you in the unemployment line in a couple of seasons, Mike. Oh, sorry, you’ll be in that mansion you built outside San Francisco wondering why the 49ers said no to you before hiring Harbaugh.

  12. johnnyb216 says: Jan 5, 2012 12:51 PM

    Looks like he should have kept his mouth shut about that concussion.

  13. nineroutsider says: Jan 5, 2012 12:52 PM

    Hasn’t Cleveland fans been patient for 2 decades?

    @sambeall – Love that enthusiasm, one of these decades they will be unstoppable!

  14. golonger says: Jan 5, 2012 12:53 PM

    He is lying through his teeth. He knows McCoy isn’t a starter….and so does McCoy. How could you not…he is one of the worst QBs to start a game I have ever seen!

  15. vegaskid21 says: Jan 5, 2012 12:54 PM

    Sound like the Browns are going after RG3 if he is available. I don’t blame em.

  16. golonger says: Jan 5, 2012 12:54 PM

    “Colt + Bush + James + Blackmon + Jackson + Little + Cribbs + Watson + Moore = Unstoppable”

    …..unstoppably laughing!

  17. adlent says: Jan 5, 2012 12:55 PM

    “Colt + Bush + James + Blackmon + Jackson + Little + Cribbs + Watson + Moore = Unstoppable”

    I don’t know about unstoppable, but I really don’t get all the Colt McCoy hate. He has zero talent around him offensively to help him develop as a quarterback. It isn’t like there has been a long line of successful Browns quarterbacks with their rosters over the last decade. Get some real talent to Cleveland and he’d probably produce better.

    Or cut your losses and let another team get him. As a Redskins fan I’d surely taken him over Rex Don’t-Throw-That-Man and the Manic Mormon.

  18. i3addog says: Jan 5, 2012 12:58 PM

    Work a deal with the Packers to get Matt Flynn.

  19. clamnewton says: Jan 5, 2012 12:58 PM

    channingtaintum says:
    Jan 5, 2012 12:42 PM
    what the hell is going on in that picture?

     I think it’s from a year or so back. Rob Ryan got a little to close to the upper deck railing going after a half-eaten hot dog and they are about to take cover.

  20. thefiesty1 says: Jan 5, 2012 1:00 PM

    They have their franchise QB already. They’ve GOT to get him some help. You know, blockers, receivers and a reliable running back. How stupid they are that they can’t see this. Ownership and management are to blame for 4-12 almost every year not their franchise QB.

  21. i3addog says: Jan 5, 2012 1:01 PM

    marionbarber24isgod says: Jan 5, 2012 12:44 PM

    Does that mean we are on Favre watch again?

    __________________________________

    Favre isn’t willing to give up his social security benefits to play again. He finally got his AARP card.

  22. hikohadon says: Jan 5, 2012 1:03 PM

    “Given protection, wide receivers and an actual running back it would be interesting to see what Colt was truly capable of. The Browns need to scrap their entire backfield and half of the wide receiving core. Solution: Let Hillis walk and sign Michael Bush. Find a playmaker with speed in Free Agency like Desean Jackson. Draft a true #1 WR in Justin Blackmon. Draft a speedy change of pace RB like LeMichael James. Now let’s see what Colt can do.

    Colt + Bush + James + Blackmon + Jackson + Little + Cribbs + Watson + Moore = Unstoppable”
    ___________

    Any formula including Colt = Stoppable.

  23. kbellrocks says: Jan 5, 2012 1:05 PM

    sambeall….really? You are going to get Blackmon and James in the draft? And also sign Jackson? Ever hear of the salary cap? Good luck with your pipe dream…

  24. Land Snark says: Jan 5, 2012 1:05 PM

    Looks like they’re being pelted with beer and batteries in that picture.

    “Look out Big Show! I’ll protect you!”

  25. hikohadon says: Jan 5, 2012 1:05 PM

    “Thanks, Mike. So you’re saying we have to suffer through another “rebuilding” season as you “build through the draft.” You mean the drafts that have netted Hardesty who can’t stay healthy, trading away a future star receiver, a fullback who can’t block, and a WR who can’t get off that blocks. You mean building through that kind of draft? Sure, you’ll sign a couple of cheap free agents, but improving from four wins to six next year is just getting crapped on by the Steelers, Ravens, and Bengals again. See you in the unemployment line in a couple of seasons, Mike. Oh, sorry, you’ll be in that mansion you built outside San Francisco wondering why the 49ers said no to you before hiring Harbaugh.”
    ______________

    Wow, I hope that all of us Browns fans don’t come across this whiny.

    Most people would rate Heckert’s last 2 drafts pretty high. If you want to cherry-pick, you can punch holes in anyone’s draft.

  26. hikohadon says: Jan 5, 2012 1:09 PM

    “I don’t know about unstoppable, but I really don’t get all the Colt McCoy hate. He has zero talent around him offensively to help him develop as a quarterback. It isn’t like there has been a long line of successful Browns quarterbacks with their rosters over the last decade. Get some real talent to Cleveland and he’d probably produce better.”
    _____________

    Take the worst QB in the history of the NFL and put better talent around him and he’d probably produce better.

    Not saying Colt is terrible, not at all, but the excuses get so damn old. Sure, he’d look better with Fitzgerald & Calvin Johnson at WR, but that doesn’t excuse him missing open receivers all season or holding the ball too long or failing to recognize blitzes or getting the ball batted down 3 times a game or…

  27. howiefeltersnatch says: Jan 5, 2012 1:11 PM

    I’m sorry, did I miss the part where he said they are letting Shurmur go?

  28. bigdawgy54 says: Jan 5, 2012 1:13 PM

    We don’t want a Browns team with Colt McCoy playing better. We want a Super Bowl caliber quarterback! We know we don’t have that in McCoy.
    I don’t know if it’s going to be RG3, Matt Flynn, or whoever, but I think H & H know they need a quarterback.
    McCoy might stay as the backup if Wallace doesn’t shut his mouth. If the Browns do indeed bring in a quarterback we don’t need Wallace spouting off about how “he” deserves a shot. He says things and does things that makes me think he may not be a true team player. That’s not the kind of guy you want on your team.
    I think Colt McCoy would accept the duties of being a backup and work just as hard as he is now. He’s a good kid. Hard worker. Just not blessed with all the physical tools. It’s God-given and you just can’t change that.
    GO BROWNS!

  29. ottograham says: Jan 5, 2012 1:27 PM

    Sorry Cleveland even Howard the Duck was dissapointed in his luck of landing in your city. Though I will say I had a hell of a night involving the Velvet Dog nightclub a year or so ago.

    On the real, if your management doesnt make serious moves offensively in the near future Im thinking its rebuild time all over again.
    The defense is legitimate (could be better), but does not have the offensive skill players necessary to be winners through a 17 game season. Especially playing Cincy, The Rats with Wings, and the habitual champs in Pittsburgh twice a year. Good luck though.

  30. test2402 says: Jan 5, 2012 1:38 PM

    Tim Tebow won the competition.

  31. packerfan12 says: Jan 5, 2012 1:38 PM

    I’ve heard that Mike Holmgren is a big believer in developing late round quarterbacks, but I truly believe even with Trent Richardson on the board that if Robert Griffin astounds people with his athleticism at the combine, he’s going to the Browns (unless teams trade up). I am not able to watch a ton of Browns games, but when I have Colt McCoy has been extremely average, and I think it’s time for a change for them.

  32. glac1 says: Jan 5, 2012 1:48 PM

    Remember Holmgren had Wolf to rely on in Green Bay to bring in talent and in Seattle he was failing until Ted Thompson arrived and assembled a super bowl caliber roster for him. Holmgren is not a proven manager and talent evaluator.

  33. fargovikesfan says: Jan 5, 2012 1:49 PM

    why would they make a deal with Green Bay for Matt Flynn? He’s gonna be an unrestricted Free Agent.

  34. studio26seattle says: Jan 5, 2012 2:02 PM

    i3addog says: Jan 5, 2012 12:58 PM

    Work a deal with the Packers to get Matt Flynn.
    _________________________________________

    Matt Flynn is a free agent come March. They just need to offer him the right amount of money. Although, the Seahawks and Broncos may be chomping at the bit too.

  35. phinfan says: Jan 5, 2012 2:06 PM

    Chad Henne will be available soon enough. -Miami

  36. orangeflh says: Jan 5, 2012 2:09 PM

    glac1 says:
    Jan 5, 2012 1:48 PM

    Remember Holmgren had Wolf to rely on in Green Bay to bring in talent and in Seattle he was failing until Ted Thompson arrived and assembled a super bowl caliber roster for him. Holmgren is not a proven manager and talent evaluator.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Exactly. Great coach, not-so-great GM.

  37. dukemarc says: Jan 5, 2012 2:18 PM

    fargovikesfan says: Jan 5, 2012 1:49 PM

    why would they make a deal with Green Bay for Matt Flynn? He’s gonna be an unrestricted Free Agent.
    ———————-

    Not if they franchise him.

  38. mwcarolina says: Jan 5, 2012 2:31 PM

    Colt + Bush + James + Blackmon + Jackson + Little + Cribbs + Watson + Moore = Unstoppable
    ———————————————————-
    i personally think that even if they keep Hillis, it would be good having Colt, Hillis, James and Blackmon.

  39. audient says: Jan 5, 2012 2:33 PM

    The Browns need some weapons on offense. They can draft RG3, but he will still need someone to throw to. Focus on weapons for the QB. Then plug in the best QB you can get through free agency. Flynn, or whomever. Or Colt. With solid playmakers next to him, Colt McCoy really may be all the Browns need.

  40. stevincinci says: Jan 5, 2012 2:35 PM

    Still will end up in 4th place in the AFC North for years to come. Get used to it.

  41. stampnhawk says: Jan 5, 2012 2:49 PM

    Part of Holmgren’s parting words on his way out of Seattle 3 years ago was that he was adamant that Seneca Wallace was going to be a starter in the NFL.

    Considering he had him on the bench for 4+ years behind Hasslebeck, and then brought him to Cleveland…and its the same, all legs, some arm, no brain Wallace, don’t get your hopes up about him developing a late round QB.

  42. MikeHolmgren'sChins says: Jan 5, 2012 2:58 PM

    Wallace vs. McCoy vs. Thaddeus Lewis in a QB competition in Cleveland? Watch out Harry Hamlin & Sam Worthington ! It’s another CLASH OF THE TITANS on the lakefront!

  43. mrfrostyj says: Jan 5, 2012 2:58 PM

    What is with all this Matt Flynn talk? He did well on a superbowl winning offense that hasn’t a QB do bad in it in this generation. I think the 3 QB’s Cleveland has (including Thaddeus Lewis) could take the Packers to at least the playoffs to be honest. Clevelands receivers lead the league in drops yet their rookie finished the regular season #2 in catches for rookies. McCoy’s stats were way above average for a QB who was hit as much as he was. Browns need to build a team around him and then they’ll get somewhere. None of the QB’s are going to look good when the guys you’re throwing the ball to are dropping VERY catch able passes.

  44. td40 says: Jan 5, 2012 3:12 PM

    stevincinci says:
    Jan 5, 2012 2:35 PM

    Still will end up in 4th place in the AFC North for years to come. Get used to it.
    ————————————————

    Hilarious. It’s actually somewhat credible when a Steelers or Ravens fan bashes the Browns and forever admonishes them to the basement. At least a Ravens or Steelers fan has to look in a downward direction to see the basement… …but then you have Steve in Cincinnati here- A fan of the team who, just *last* season, actually finished last in the AFCN and is finishing in 3rd place this year (as well as most others years-that is, when they’re not busy trading basement spots with the Browns.)

    It’s laughable when fans of the perennial 3rd place team feel good enough about being in 3rd (or 4th some years) place to goof on the 4th (or 3rd some years) team. LOL. Only in Cinci-tucky.

  45. texline1 says: Jan 5, 2012 3:14 PM

    It is not surprising that his pressers last longer than anybody else’. The bigger the pile of horse manure, the longer it takes to spread it.

  46. ytownie says: Jan 5, 2012 3:21 PM

    Read between the lines of what Holmgren actually said. Colt will be the backup. Next years’ QB is not presently on the team. Whether he is a free agent or draft choice that will be determined. All this is just preparing Colt for his future job as HC at U of Texas.

  47. bigvinnyinjax says: Jan 5, 2012 3:37 PM

    That has to be the best picture I’ve ever seen on PFT even though I have no idea wth is happening in it.

    Flynn just has Matt Cassel written all over him. Great in a great system, but send him to a crappy team and he’ll be a crappy quarterback.

    Browns need to bring in a solid veteran who can a) tutor McCoy b) step in if need be until they draft a QB in 2013.

  48. erikinhell says: Jan 5, 2012 3:43 PM

    If I read between the lines, McCoy has a chance to be the starter next year. He’ll actually get some coaching in the WCO this year, unlike last off season. Holmgren will pick a QB in the draft, but not in the first round.

    The Browns need to rebuild the right side of their offensive line.
    They need a reliable running back(s). Hillis keeps getting hurt, and Hardesty never gets better.
    They need a threat at WR. I don’t think there was a defense they played this year that was worried about any WRs on the team.
    They need at least 1 LB that can get to the ball carrier before he’s 5 yards downfield.

    What I see good on this team:
    They have a very good secondary. I’m wondering how Skrine will work out. That kid was clocked at 4.22 in the 40. The defensive line looks solid, and will only improve over time. The left side of the OL is still in great shape. Once they solidify the offense, they will improve greatly.

    I really expect those last minute losses to turn to wins this next season, as long as they have a good draft this year.

  49. golonger says: Jan 5, 2012 4:05 PM

    I hope the Browns let Hillis walk so the Ravens can pick him up…Hillis and Rice would make a great one-two puch……I am sure Hillis would love to see what it is like to play with a REAL NFL team!!!!!

  50. jacunn2000 says: Jan 5, 2012 4:30 PM

    What a wasteland.. Cleveland has to be the worst team in organized sports. Blame it all on the second year QB who has had no direction or descent coaching. Pathetic.

  51. bluestree says: Jan 5, 2012 4:30 PM

    I could see Holmgren making a play for Flynn. He didn’t get Farve in the draft. I don’t think they would give up picks for him, but if he hit’s the market, Tom Heckert is a Packer guy, Shurmur has ties. They would respect an endorsement of Flynn from McCarthy. Then maybe they trade down with somebody and try to put something around him. If the market for Flynn doesn’t heat up because of the system quarterback thing, he could be somewhat of a bargain. I think the “system” quarterback thing was put out by teams looking to go after him.

  52. dragonfly99 says: Jan 5, 2012 4:34 PM

    Holmgren will be relying on Ted Thompson’s ability again when they make a major push to sign Matt Flynn, who won’t sign up to be a back-up.

  53. brenenostler says: Jan 5, 2012 4:36 PM

    “But I’m not ready to anoint Colt yet.” Translation: “We’re drafting RG3 if he’s available.”

  54. gallogj says: Jan 5, 2012 4:53 PM

    Brady Quinn’s 2009 Passer Rating = 67.2
    Colt McCoy’s 2011 Passer Rating = 74.6

    See…we’re getting better…or are we?

    Brady Quinn’s last year in College Passer Rating = 146.7
    Colt McCoy’s last year in College Passer Rating = 147.4

    So…it’s clear that the Browns take decent college QB’s and ruin them.

    RG III’s College Passer Rating = 189.5 this year.
    If the Browns draft him…judging by past results…it will be = 95 next year. Still an improvement!

  55. pmars64 says: Jan 5, 2012 5:29 PM

    @ hikohadon:
    Sorry, but Mike’s “please be patient” plea is a load of crap. It’s not rocket science to upgrade a roster. You find competent players wherever you can find them and grab true game-changers when you get a chance. There has been plenty of talent available at reasonable prices that could have improved this roster immediately and they’ve had the cap space to do it. They decided to draft defense first, when they should have drafted offense first. Offense wins championships. All you need from your defense is one or two keep stops in any game and you will win most of the time. It’s heading into Year 3 of Holmgren and this team lacks speed, has no playmakers that scare anyone, is still searching for that franchise QB, has an offensive line with major questions, and special teams play that is awful. But, hey, you can be patient and sit through another 10+ loss season as we have for eight of the last nine, hat’s off to you.

  56. banderson005 says: Jan 5, 2012 8:21 PM

    Wow … I’m shocked at all the Holmgren bashing! He did well in San Fran, Green Bay, and Seattle. It takes time to build especially in your difficult division (this isn’t the AFC West … lol).

    Give it two years and you will have a shot at winning this division.

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