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Don’t be shocked if Hue Jackson doesn’t last in Oakland

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There’s a strange dynamic unfolding right now in Oakland, which probably shouldn’t come as much of a surprise to anyone who has followed the NFL for the last decade.  And there’s a theory making the rounds in league circles that the arrival of Reggie McKenzie as the team’s next General Manager could lead to the departure of coach Hue Jackson.

Even though both men are represented by Kennard McGuire, there are indications that Jackson wasn’t fully on board with the decision to hire McKenzie.  Jackson, whom we believe reports directly to owner Mark Davis, has been publicly candid (perhaps too candid) in recent days regarding his desire for more control.  It’s our understanding that, behind the scenes, Jackson has been even more candid, and that the arrival of McKenzie could — not will but could — result in Jackson being one and done in Oakland.

Would it be shocking?  Yes.  But not much more shocking than last year’s decision to part ways with Tom Cable after a far less expected 8-8 season.

Every G.M. wants to hire his own coach.  Even if the G.M. says as he walks through the door that he’s fine with the head coach who is in place, every G.M. wants to hire his own coach.  With Jackson seeming in recent days like a bit of a loose cannon when it comes to the management of the team, McKenzie could have some real misgivings about moving forward with Jackson.

The fact that McGuire represents both men will influence the situation, but that will go only so far.  At some point, McKenzie will have to make what he believes to be the right decision/recommendation for the franchise, even if it means potentially alienating his own agent by firing one of his agent’s other clients.

At this point, we’re not reporting that Jackson is on his way out or predicting that he’s not long for the job.  What we do know is that folks inside the league are keeping an eye on Oakland, because there’s a sense that McKenzie and Jackson possibly won’t be able to coexist.

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  1. twitter:Chapman_Jamie says: Jan 6, 2012 9:50 AM

    If he was indeed behind giving up what they did for Palmer then why shouldn’t he at least be on the hot seat? He did no better than Cable did.

    Good to be back!

  2. xpensivewinos says: Jan 6, 2012 9:51 AM

    I think the only thing surprising would be if Jackson actually stayed. He’s a kook.

    Philbin may have another stop to make on his World Tour…..

  3. yeahyeahyeahbono14 says: Jan 6, 2012 9:51 AM

    The only thing that would shock me would be for Andy Reid to swear off cheesesteaks and Rex Ryan to join Jenny Craig (the diet plan, not the foot fetish actress).

  4. sedcontra97 says: Jan 6, 2012 9:52 AM

    What? He should be there for life after completing “the best trade ever.”

  5. brutus9448 says: Jan 6, 2012 9:53 AM

    jakson should have been fired for the palmer trade. So no its not surprising if he gets fired now.

  6. edmazeing1 says: Jan 6, 2012 9:54 AM

    Hate me if u want 2, but I thought the guy did ok with what he had & its not like he went to mike brown & said hey I have a first round pick that I dont want. He also try to get orton for cheaper but elway sucks, but besides that I thought he was a decent rookie coach!!!

  7. rr2000k says: Jan 6, 2012 9:54 AM

    Don’t think anyone will be

  8. realitypolice says: Jan 6, 2012 9:54 AM

    I don’t think you need to remind us not to be shocked by anything the Raiders do.

  9. texanfan62 says: Jan 6, 2012 9:54 AM

    Not a Raiders Fan,but respect that organization greatly. Hue Jackson will rue the day he gave up 2 1st round picks for an aging Carson Palmer.Reggie McKenzie actually interviewed for the Texans GM Job that eventually went to Rick Smith. He’ll do a great job in Oakland,but the first thing he should do is Fire Hue Jackson.

  10. raiderej says: Jan 6, 2012 9:55 AM

    Hue Jackson has destroyed our chances for at least 5 years here in Oakland with that TERRIBLE Carson Palmer trade. He should be gone rather sooner than the inevitable later.

  11. norseyapper says: Jan 6, 2012 9:55 AM

    Who in their right mind would be “shocked” over anything that happens in Oakland?

  12. pacificamjr says: Jan 6, 2012 9:56 AM

    does the fact that he’s not a very good coach play into this at all?

  13. marvsleezy says: Jan 6, 2012 9:57 AM

    Im telling you: They will hire Hugh Jackman as their next coach.

  14. rajbais says: Jan 6, 2012 9:58 AM

    Hey!!! Once he traded for Carson Palmer that thought resonated with me.

  15. icanspeel says: Jan 6, 2012 9:59 AM

    Gotta love the AFC West, it seems every team in the division is dysfunctional. It’s even funnier when a Raider fan makes fun of the Chargers or Charger fan makes fun of the Raiders since they are in similar boats.

  16. klownboy says: Jan 6, 2012 10:01 AM

    Wow, this is more interesting by the minute. I guess Hue was put on notice after the Carson trade?

  17. hippieway says: Jan 6, 2012 10:01 AM

    A great spot for the other Ryan brother

  18. wcucarter says: Jan 6, 2012 10:02 AM

    Who names their kid Huge Ackson?

  19. skeefe1976 says: Jan 6, 2012 10:03 AM

    What makes Hue Jackson think he deserves power/control over a roster? He is a career 8-8 coach & it sounds like that record may stay that way for awhile.

  20. mrw423 says: Jan 6, 2012 10:04 AM

    The title of this article is: Don’t be shocked if Hue Jackson doesn’t last in Oakland

    Yet you also say, “Would it be shocking? Yes”

    HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO FEEL IF THIS HAPPENS?!?!?

  21. mr4thand1 says: Jan 6, 2012 10:05 AM

    It’s Marty Shottenhiemer (forgive the spelling), and A.J. Smith all over again!

  22. austrianpanther says: Jan 6, 2012 10:05 AM

    “Don’t be shocked if Hue Jackson doesn’t last in Oakland”

    OK- I won’t!

  23. test2402 says: Jan 6, 2012 10:06 AM

    Tim Tebow made him loose his job.

  24. cereal blogger says: Jan 6, 2012 10:06 AM

    Al Davis’ son has an awesome Pete Rose hair cut

  25. whitecastleisafoodgroup says: Jan 6, 2012 10:08 AM

    This sounds similar to Chicago’s dilemma. New GM in McKenzie but existing HC in Jackson.

    Raiders at least got their GM fast enough they can make a move at HC if they felt it was needed. Unlike in Chicago the Raiders have a golden opportunity to flush the toilet and start clean (sans a couple 1st round picks).

    McKenzie should just start fresh and bring in his own people. We’re screwed in Chicago for quite a while. Don’t make the same mistake.

  26. pooskay says: Jan 6, 2012 10:08 AM

    Hue Jackson is the west coast version of Rex Ryan….all talk that results in false hope.

  27. badmude says: Jan 6, 2012 10:09 AM

    If you don’t know and aren’t predicting. why bother trying to make a story out of nothing. Oh yea, it’s call RUMOR MILL. Trying to make something out of nothing. Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. Feel free to report on FACTS.

  28. 700levelvet says: Jan 6, 2012 10:10 AM

    He traded two 1st round pics for Carson(INT) Palmer, and then, lost the division to Tim (2 completions a game) Tebow…..He should be fired

  29. marinemundy says: Jan 6, 2012 10:10 AM

    Fisher to Oakland?…

  30. raidingtexas says: Jan 6, 2012 10:10 AM

    Huebris.

  31. beej6 says: Jan 6, 2012 10:13 AM

    Jackson was in a unique situation to say the least -= owner/GM/supreme leader Davis who passed away leaving a void which Jackson, as highest ranking football person, filled temporarily.
    While it wouldn’t surprise me to see him gone, it also wouldn’t surprise me to see him stay at least one more year, which I think is the more prudent approach.
    Unfortunately they’re currently built as if they need to challenge for a title in the next 3 years or so (Palmer, Seymour, even Janikowski and Lechler are not going to be around in 2016), so they really need to focus on that defense; the offense, Palmer aside, is young and still has potential.

  32. cincybert says: Jan 6, 2012 10:13 AM

    Hue Jackson actually helped Mike Brown get NFL executive of the year. That is no easy task.

  33. dgstan says: Jan 6, 2012 10:15 AM

    I think it’s a perfect situation. Give Jackson _less_ control. Let him worry about what’s on the field. I think he’s a decent coach and should be given the chance to build upon what he’s started.

    I’m glad he threw the team under the bus. They deserved it. Players should be held accountable when they don’t perform. That fact that that the team hasn’t imploded (see Jets) says a lot.

    If McFadden doesn’t go down, we’re not having this conversation. If they can upgrade the secondary and the LB corps over the off-season, they will be fine.

  34. garyman1 says: Jan 6, 2012 10:16 AM

    Let’s see… the Raiders hire Packer Reggie McKenzie and Packer Matt Flynn is a free agent.

  35. commonsensedude says: Jan 6, 2012 10:16 AM

    Hue Jackson has done much more for the Cincinatti Bengals than anyone in that organization’s recent history. He’s helped bolster their future, invigorate their fans, return them to the play …

    Oh – wait a minute. I forgot. Jackson doesn’t work for the Bengals.

    Nevermind.

  36. tomwill21 says: Jan 6, 2012 10:17 AM

    @VittorioTafur
    Vittorio Tafur
    No, Mark Davis & Amy Trask firmly behind Hue Jackson @essfjay: is it possible if we do get a GM that he cleans house & brings in own HC?”
    16 hours ago via Tweetbot for iPhone

  37. riverhorsey says: Jan 6, 2012 10:17 AM

    Bring Todd Haley in to coach, that would shake things up in the west.

  38. raiderlyfe510 says: Jan 6, 2012 10:18 AM

    I’m a Hue Jackson fan, but I don’t think he’ll last. A GM has to have his own Head Coach. He needs a head coach that can materialize his vision on the field.

    I think Gruden could be in the cards. They were together in Green Bay, and Gruden loves the bay area and being a Raider. Its a wild guess, but I can see Gruden and Callahan returning.

  39. tatum064 says: Jan 6, 2012 10:27 AM

    icanspeel says:
    Jan 6, 2012 9:59 AM
    Gotta love the AFC West, it seems every team in the division is dysfunctional. It’s even funnier when a Raider fan makes fun of the Chargers or Charger fan makes fun of the Raiders since they are in similar boats.

    =========

    I love it because when you think they’re dysfunctional, they STEAM ROLL a “playoff” team like the Ravens or Jets.

    Or upset an undefeated Packers team.

  40. woodsidegil says: Jan 6, 2012 10:27 AM

    I’m a lifelong 49er fan, which normally means I don’t like the Raiders. But this egotistical clown reminds me of our departed windbag, Mike Singletary, so I’m hoping that they show Jackson the door and bring in a competent HC.

  41. johnnyb216 says: Jan 6, 2012 10:27 AM

    This is a joke!!!!

  42. justwinbaby29 says: Jan 6, 2012 10:27 AM

    Aging Carson Palmer? He just turned 32. Too many INT but did you see some of the throws he made? Palmer doesn’t play defense. With a DECENT defense the Raiders are getting ready to host Pittsburgh.

    As long as Palmer stays healthy he puts up 4000 yards next year, 25 TD and yes probably have to live with the 13-14 INTs.

    If the Raiders can fix the defense they’ll win at least 10 games next season.

  43. rundmc81 says: Jan 6, 2012 10:29 AM

    Cut Hue some slack.. His team was 4-2 and playing well. His qb goes down for the season. Boeller sucks.. He had to do something.. If he did nothing everyone would be calling for his head. THEN his best player (McFadden) goes down for the season. 8-8 is a decent record with what he had. And what he had was a sorry defensive coordinator, rookie and overhyped CB’s and Rod Woodson who was nothing more than a big named former Al Davis player. Hue, next year is your year! I hope you and my main man Reggie sort it all out and build that bully that you have been yapping about

  44. tatum064 says: Jan 6, 2012 10:29 AM

    skeefe1976 says:
    Jan 6, 2012 10:03 AM
    What makes Hue Jackson think he deserves power/control over a roster?

    ===========

    That statement in the final press conference may have sealed his fate (the even more control-I’m not going to be feeling this way next year” rant)

    They even had “They are who we thought they were” Dennis Green analyzing that press conference with Brian Billick on NFL Network. Green was saying “Don’t make promises you can’t keep”

  45. Raider-in-PA says: Jan 6, 2012 10:32 AM

    All nothing but speculation at this point…

    But no matter what happens, its a great time to be a RAIDER!!!!!

    Welcome home Reggie!

  46. tatum064 says: Jan 6, 2012 10:33 AM

    raiderej says:
    Jan 6, 2012 9:55 AM
    Hue Jackson has destroyed our chances for at least 5 years here in Oakland with that TERRIBLE Carson Palmer trade. He should be gone rather sooner than the inevitable later.

    ========

    It was an act of desperation. Then again, WHAT THE HELL WOULD YOU HAVE DONE, with Kyle Boller as the starter?

    By the time Campbell was back, we’d have been out of the playoff race. It was a gamble that backfired and will cost him his job. But who was out there, and what draft pick at QB would we have had? or Free agent?

    Orton? Flynn (which is good, but he never had a playoff game like Palmer did) .

  47. GG Eden says: Jan 6, 2012 10:34 AM

    Hue Jackson will be avoiding Reggie for the possible bad news….

    Think of the movie Catch-22, and Major Major putting on disguises, etc.

    Hue to secretary: When I’m not in my office, and Reggie comes around or calls, tell him I’m here and to wait for me, then let him in. But when I’m in my office, tell him I’m not here and to arrange a time to see me.

    Secretary to Hue: But when he does make an appointment to see you, will you be here?

    Hue to secretary: No. Look, when I’m here I’m not here. But when I’m not here I am here. Ok?

  48. Keyser Söze says: Jan 6, 2012 10:37 AM

    Yet another bombastic article. Nobody knows whats going to happen. Everybody is just trying to beat everybody to the punch. Good job buying into the hype. Maybe he could talk Brett Favre into coaching. I’m sure he and McKenzie get along…

  49. comeonnowguys says: Jan 6, 2012 10:37 AM

    Chicago sought Jackson before they had to settle on Martz as an OC.

    Maybe he’ll take the job this time around. I mean, last time the job wasn’t attractive because the head coach may have been gone at the end of the year, making the whole regime a lame duck.

    This time around… wait… what? Crap.

  50. dirtyharry44 says: Jan 6, 2012 10:39 AM

    Those who feel entitled are often the last to know. Can him Reggie!

  51. nicosanchez02 says: Jan 6, 2012 10:39 AM

    At this point, we’re not reporting that Jackson is on his way out or predicting that he’s not long for the job. What we do know is that folks inside the league are keeping an eye on Oakland….

    So what you’re saying is that you really don’t know what your saying, just speculation right? Where are your facts on all this b/s….

    Like we don’t already know the league is keeping an eye on Oakland!

  52. paulisrollin says: Jan 6, 2012 10:44 AM

    So here it is. Mike Brown worked a deal with the county to have taxpayers build him a stadium. The front runner for the county in the deal was Bob Bedinghaus (sp?). After Mike Brown sheisted the county for a free stadium, Mr. Bedinghaus went to work for the Bengals after he was run out of his position with the county.

    Now this. Mike Brown sheists the Faiders for possible two first round picks for an over-the-hill QB. The main man in on that trade for the Faiders is Hue Jackson. Looks like Gruden may be out sooner than later getting a HC job so now Mike Brown can bring Hue in as an OC since he will be losing his job for making such a silly trade for the QB.

    Deja Vu!!! lol

  53. mikeeg says: Jan 6, 2012 10:45 AM

    Hue is pretty immature and inexperienced. What coach goes to the press immediately after a game and tosses everyone he can under the bus? It starts with u, Hue. Take some accountability

  54. ronlm says: Jan 6, 2012 10:46 AM

    This is such a instant gratification society, it’s really sad.

    Reading so many comments from fans who want to get rid of a head coach after his rookie season is comical. Hue began his tenure with a lockout, which severely handicapped first year HC’s. Then, he loses his starting QB along with the best player on his team in DMac. Along with losing CJ and Ford, it’s quite a testament to Hue that he kept his team competitive enough to be playing for the division championship in the last game of the season

    And fans are disappointed with the play of a QB who came off the couch who had to start just a couple weeks later. Never mind that he had zero time to gel with his teammates. He’s not playing like Rodgers or Brady… so he sucks.

    Hue and Palmer both deserve at least another year.

    As far as any issues between Jackson and McKenzie… maybe we should let these guys work together for a bit and see how it pans out?

  55. johnnyjagfan says: Jan 6, 2012 10:46 AM

    Bring Tom Cable back!

  56. darkerdaze says: Jan 6, 2012 10:46 AM

    Get off the damn Carson Palmer trade already people. Our QB went down for the season in the middle of a playoff run….we had arguably the worst back up QB in the league. What did you expect him to do? There was a complete lack of options at the QB position. Give Carson a whole off-season to work with his WR’s a develop chemistry with them before you label this a bad trade. Like it or not, Carson Palmer has the ability to WIN games for us….not just manage them. If any of you idiots actually watched the games, you would see Carson makes passes that maybe only the top 5 QB’s in the league could make. Does he make dumb mistakes sometimes……yes. But he makes way more good plays then bad ones. Can’t tell you how many times a great drive was killed by a dropped pass or a bad route. The receiving corps needs to get comfortable with eachother…..and let’s not forget one of the most important pieces of this whole conversation……Carson was without arguably the best RB in the league the entire time he played. Can’t wait to see the 2 of them together.

    I like Hue as the Coach of this team…..nothing else. I like Al Saunders as our Offensive Coordinator, Fire Chuck Bresnahan immediately and hire Del Rio. And go ALL DEFENSE in the draft and free agency…..Linebackers and Defensive Backs…..we need to switch to 3-4 to have any shot with these linebackers we have. They are all to slow for the 4-3!!

  57. jpmcgee says: Jan 6, 2012 10:47 AM

    Palmer showed up with the team in Wk 7 — let’s let him have a full offseason and season with his new team before we make a full judgment on this trade. Granted, for the price, it’ll be tough to justify, but it’s a bit silly to sell Palmer down the river after joining a brand new team halfway through the season. Here are his numbers in 9 games:

    60.7% completion percentage
    2,753 yards (275 avg/gm — 7th in NFL. Should really be 289/gm, but the NFL calculates him as having played 10 games, when it was really 9.5)
    8.39 avg yds/att (tied for 4th in NFL, just ahead of Drew Brees)
    13-16 TD-INT ratio
    80.5 rating

    Obviously the TD-INT ratio is atrocious, but let’s keep in mind that he threw 3 in each of his first 2 games. Recall, too, that the first game was the 2nd half in which the Raiders were getting blown out, and he had been on the team for like 3 days.

  58. jacksrants says: Jan 6, 2012 10:47 AM

    Alot of you are not to smart . There was nothing wrong with the Palmer trade. A mid rd 1st a 2nd next year is not that much for a 32 year old very solid NFL QB .

    Jacksons problems were on the defense . He is a very good offensive coach . He did not hire the DC Breshnahan . In fact Hue wanted and tried to hire Chck Pagano from Balt.

    Hue should get another year and the chance to succeed with a DC that is on the same page as he is . In fact if not for the terrible defensive collapses in 3 games Oakland woulda been 11-5 and Hue woulda been coach of the year . He dealt with his owners death , the loss of his best player in McFadden and the injury to Jason Campbell and still had the team on the cusp of the postseason . Yeah he sucks .

    Offesnively they are very well set up for next year . Let McKenzie take over and work with Hue Jackson . Get the defense fixed and the Raiders are on the rise . Now ofcourse Hue needs to know his place now that a GM has been hired but I think he will be fine .

  59. 1phd says: Jan 6, 2012 10:48 AM

    Looks like the Faiders at least got the GM part right. It’s not the wisest move to not support the hire of your future boss and Jackson has already shown he’s in way over his head. This hire also signals a great chance of a further slide for the stay the course and get out of Dodge, LA Chargers. Most everyone in San Diego couldn’t be happier about it.

  60. goawayeverybody says: Jan 6, 2012 10:50 AM

    The problem is not Hue Jackson. The problem is the defense, which has been very bad for years now. They need a top level coordinator and fresh talent.

  61. jbaxt says: Jan 6, 2012 10:52 AM

    The rest of the AFC West wants Jackson to stay.

    The Chiefs will give you the rights to Dan Saleamua and Tamarick Vanover for 2nd and 3rd round picks in 2013, since you don’t have a draft in 2012. It’s far less than what you gave up for your 2nd string QB.

  62. deadeye says: Jan 6, 2012 10:53 AM

    The moment he traded two first rounders for Carson Palmer, HJ should have been fired.

  63. trollhammer20 says: Jan 6, 2012 10:54 AM

    Following the Raiders in the offseason is often popcorn-worthy entertainment, but it’s especially fun right now.

    I remember all the Raider fans saying how much Cable sucked (even though he was the one to break the record-setting chain of double-digit loss seasons) and how glad they were to have Hue “Next Man Up” Jackson, who was the REAL reason their running game and offensive line developed over the past several seasons.

    So, while Hue is throwing away the franchise future on a 30+ year old QB, Cable is in Seattle, giving Seattle the best running game they’ve had since Shaun Alexander’s record-setting 2005 campaign. Marshawn Lynch was an afterthought in Buffalo, but this year, he was the #1 back in the NFL from week 9 forward, and made highlight-reel plays on a weekly basis.

    Further, Robery Gallery was healthy most of the season, Zach Miller started to work his way into the offense more as the line gelled and he was able to get into patterns more often, and given Carroll and Schneider have found guys like Kam Chancellor and Richard Sherman in the fourth and fifth round, we may just be finding another starter with the fifth and seventh we’re getting for Aaron Curry.

    Enjoy the offseason, Raider Nation.

  64. skullraider says: Jan 6, 2012 10:58 AM

    Bye Bye! We won’t miss you.

  65. ProDolphinsTalk says: Jan 6, 2012 11:03 AM

    The NFL is biggest circus on earth and the Raiders will always be a main attraction. However, the Dolphins and Jets are jockeying hard for the spotlight. What other business/entertainment company (which the NFL is) has so much attention on every little detail. Did you see how many fans became litigators and mediators during the lockout? A Macbook Pro makes you an NFL insider and everyone is a GM and talent scout. It’s gotten out of hand. I’m glad this crappy season is almost over and I hope to God the Patriots get beat…

  66. thetruth619 says: Jan 6, 2012 11:04 AM

    Why do people keep saying Hue traded two first round picks for Palmer?? It was a first and a second. The second round would become a first if the Raiders make the AFC Championship game this year or next. If Palmer leads the team to the AFC Championship game next year I doubt anyone will be complaining about the draft picks given up. Besides, Hue realizes the league is win now. Even with all the injuries people would be calling for his head had they gone 6-10. Campbell was playing well, but he simply is not Palmer. Carson only played part of the season, no training camp, had to learn the entire offense, midseason, get used to his receivers…which was difficult being that they were injured all year. Oh, not to mention never even got to have Mcfadden out there. Through those circumstances I can’t complain about the job he did. If you prorate his stats for an entire year….he would have thrown for close to 4800 yards this year.

  67. ffjxc says: Jan 6, 2012 11:04 AM

    Look Hue is no worse off in making the trade for Palmer than doing nothing. If he didn’t pull the trigger for Palmer we go 4-12 maybe 5-11 under Kyle Boller/T. Pryor. At 4-12, 5-11 even 6-10, he is gone.

    If the trade worked out and we make the playoffs Hue is a hero. At 8-8 he is no worse off. If he gets fired its not his problem anymore. So from Hue’s point of view he did the right thing as “acting gm”.

  68. joetoronto says: Jan 6, 2012 11:05 AM

    johnnyjagfan says:
    Jan 6, 2012 10:46 AM
    Bring Tom Cable back!
    ***************************************************
    That’s not going to happen. Sorry, Tom.

  69. flyermb says: Jan 6, 2012 11:06 AM

    What decent coach would want that job considering they have almost no draft picks.

  70. rdawg911 says: Jan 6, 2012 11:07 AM

    All Hue did was try to salvage what at one time was a promising season. If your team was 4-2 and your starter went down, would you be willing to settle for Kyle Boller with better WB’s out there? Did he give up too much for Palmer…yes, but all Hue was doing was trying to get this team to the playoffs…and it probably would have happened if Mcfadden wasn’t hurt.

    I wouldn’t fire him for that.

  71. torturedraiderfan says: Jan 6, 2012 11:11 AM

    Hey Hue…….if you don’t like the GM hire, there’s the door. Don’t let it hit you on the way out. A first year head coach that finished 8-8 losing 4 of the last 5 games has absolutely no right to ask for more power and influence the GM hire.

  72. cannonballdookie says: Jan 6, 2012 11:13 AM

    Jackson seems like he’d be very hard to work with. He wants to do everything his way and not have anyone tell him what to do. He looked like the right hire at first, but a lot of his moves have been questionable at best, like putting the future of his team in the hands of Carson Palmer.

  73. Land Snark says: Jan 6, 2012 11:15 AM

    @yeahyeahyeahbono14

    It’d be even more shocking if Rex Ryan were to get some type of lap band surgery…oh wait, that’s right.

    Nothing like a fat joke gone sideways.

  74. nineroutsider says: Jan 6, 2012 11:17 AM

    Oakland might actually turn a corner if this happens. I say hire Mckenzie and let him drive. Hue has not been impressive…at all. Hue lost his players weeks ago…

    Oakland is at a crossroads, do something right and start winning, make another stupid mistake and they will be under for another 5 years at least.

  75. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 6, 2012 11:20 AM

    ” McKenzie will have to make what he believes to be the right decision/recommendation for the franchise, even if it means potentially alienating his own agent”

    Oh noes, he might alienate a walking ball of slime, pus and ooze by making the right decision.

    Most against are scum of the earth and they are a dime a dozen. There are few things on the planet that can be so easily replaced as these parasitic vermin.

  76. Land Snark says: Jan 6, 2012 11:22 AM

    @jacksrants says:

    “Alot of you are not to smart . There was nothing wrong with the Palmer trade. A mid rd 1st a 2nd next year is not that much for a 32 year old very solid NFL QB .”

    You never throw away a 1st round pick for any solid player, much less a 32 year old who has very little left in the tank.

    Palmer’s lack of production proved it was a ridiculous pick. But yeah, sure. A lot of PFT readers are the ones who aren’t smart.

  77. jmclarkent says: Jan 6, 2012 11:25 AM

    Hue is trying too hard to be the Offensive-minded Rex Ryan (though Hue prefers manicures to pedicures).

  78. darkerdaze says: Jan 6, 2012 11:36 AM

    Land Snark says: Jan 6, 2012 11:22 AM

    @jacksrants says:

    “Alot of you are not to smart . There was nothing wrong with the Palmer trade. A mid rd 1st a 2nd next year is not that much for a 32 year old very solid NFL QB .”

    You never throw away a 1st round pick for any solid player, much less a 32 year old who has very little left in the tank.

    Palmer’s lack of production proved it was a ridiculous pick. But yeah, sure. A lot of PFT readers are the ones who aren’t smart.

    …………………………………………..

    Lack of production?? He threw for over 3000 yards in less than 10 full games. 2 of which were within 10 days of him coming off the couch. How retarded are people out there? You know the Raiders haven’t had a QB like this since Gannon right? I’m sure you were one of the idiots that were saying it was a bad move for us to pick him up too because he was the same age coming in to us. People are truly retarded on this site.

  79. whynotusecommonsense says: Jan 6, 2012 11:38 AM

    In his weekly Sirius NFL radio interview Tuesday, Jackson said he had no problem working with a general manager after operating with much of the organizational power following the death of Al Davis

    “My whole thing is about winning and whatever it takes to win,” Jackson said. “Do I want to make sure I have an idea and have some input on who I put on a team? Yes. But at the end of the day, if the chain of command starts with the G.M. when it comes to those decisions, I’m fine with that, too.”

    Said on Tuesday, before the GM hire. So while speculation flies around the internet, these words came from Hue himself. Either cooler heads have prevailed, or someone informed him he is no longer in charge. Either way, he’ll be the head coach in 2012.

  80. illyistic1 says: Jan 6, 2012 11:38 AM

    He needs to calm his ass down

  81. Nevis says: Jan 6, 2012 11:40 AM

    Not giving up on Hue yet, but he lost some credibility after that last game — late season collapse coupled with a “it’s not me, it’s them” comments. Not a good way to go out, but he’s a rookie coach so we’ll see if he learns.

    As far as McKenzie goes, I am impressed. He could signal the turnaround the Raiders desperately need.

  82. mac3333 says: Jan 6, 2012 11:44 AM

    Here is the funny thing.

    If Jackson is fired and the Bengals lose Jay Gruden to a Head Coaching job then Hue would be the front runner for the Bengals OC job. (Marvin Lewis & Mike Brown both have VERY close relationships with Hue)

    Thus he would reap the benefits of his ill considered trade for Palmer.

    Wouldn’t THAT be hilarious!!??!!

  83. ronlm says: Jan 6, 2012 11:50 AM

    Lose your starting QB… then lose your “Peyton Manning” in DMac… and still produce the ninth best offense in the league. Yeah, not impressive at all! Give me a break.

    The problem is not Hue… he is actually the bright spot on the team. The problem was the 29th ranked, antiquated, poorly led defense. Loved Al Davis… but his man defense was WAY too one dimensional… OC’s around the league LOVED playing the Raiders. Shut down the front four and even poor offenses had their way with the Raiders D. Then the real capper, is Al hiring the uninspiring Chuck Bresnahan as DC. Failure times two.

    So, to all you peeps wanting Hue out… get a clue. He did extremely well for being a rookie head coach and dealing with the catastrophic issues this season held for him.

    Get rid of Bresnahan, hire a stud DC, allow McKenzie to do his thing, allow Hue to do his, and watch this Raiders team dominate the AFC West next season and beyond.

  84. Captain Chaos says: Jan 6, 2012 11:50 AM

    Mike, sometimes I think you hate Hue Jackson for some reason. Maybe you do and thats perfectly fine. But this article is written in a way that makes it appear like you have sources that say this is being discussed other than around a water cooler. I am fairly sure this is largely conjecture on your part given how tight lipped and “mafia like” the Raiders historically are. Writing an article like this using words like “could”, “probably”, “seeming” tells us you are pretty much writing this with zero facts to substantiate it. Why don’t you just write the article with phrases like “I think that…” or “I believe that…”? It might hold more credibility than people reading this thinking that you have it out for him in some passive aggressive way.

  85. bigbluebruiser says: Jan 6, 2012 11:54 AM

    McKenzie should bring along his buddy Tom Clements, Packers QB coach, as his new head coach.

    Clements has worked with Aaron Rodgers and Matt Flynn, and was with Brett Favre for a couple of seasons.

    Clements helped mold Rodgers into arguably the top QB in the NFL right now. And Flynn should get a starting gig elsewhere next year.

    Clements would be music to Carson Palmer’s ears in my honest opinion.

  86. letsgosharks says: Jan 6, 2012 11:56 AM

    Perhaps of Hue was just the head coach and not jc GM and team president he can focus more on his team and gettin them ready for Sunday’s.

  87. efriedo says: Jan 6, 2012 11:57 AM

    People are quick to forget that this is a team that lost it’s starting QB, starting RB, starting DE, had numerous injuries at CB and Safety, and all the assistants around Hue Jackson were “Al’s guys”. In a game of inches, they came up a couple inches short in two games (Bill and Lions). If they win those games they are 10-6 and win the division by 2 games.

    I don’t blame Hue at all for his coaching. Would I like him to shut up? Absolutely!!!

    Coach the team, that’s what you were hired to do!

  88. richc111 says: Jan 6, 2012 11:59 AM

    My impression from a distance is that Jackson is in way over his head and wants to get in deeper. He upfront attitude may not hide this fact. As one writer put it if he was indeed the driving force in giving up what he did for Palmer he should be gone anyway. Look at it this way, The Raiders made Cincinnati look like geniuses and that is not always that easy to do.

  89. snnyjcbs says: Jan 6, 2012 12:02 PM

    I am being told by people out of Oakland that Hue Jackson gave the nod on the Hire of the X Raider player that was recommended to the Raiders by the Al Davis trained Ron Wolf and John Madden. I am being told that your story has been going around Raiders Headquarters and they are all having a Huge Laugh over the misinformation you spread on the Raiders.

  90. FinFan68 says: Jan 6, 2012 12:02 PM

    Jackson may be a decent coach but how he has acted recently would be enough for me to get rid of him. I think the Raiders should fire Jackson, put the rest of the staff on notice and bring back Jon Gruden. Gruden could determine what coaches stay or go. He would bring back some much needed respect to the franchise. I think Oakland has what it takes to pull him out of the booth and free up the volume controls of millions of TVs everywhere.

  91. muskyhunter2542 says: Jan 6, 2012 12:03 PM

    Since Tebow cant play QB in the NFL, maybe he can become the Raiders Head Coach.

    The good lord will follow!!!

  92. snnyjcbs says: Jan 6, 2012 12:06 PM

    The comment below says it ALL, JOKE could have been added as well, Taken from comments above.

    “Mike, sometimes I think you hate Hue Jackson for some reason. Maybe you do and thats perfectly fine. But this article is written in a way that makes it appear like you have sources that say this is being discussed other than around a water cooler. I am fairly sure this is largely conjecture on your part given how tight lipped and “mafia like” the Raiders historically are. Writing an article like this using words like “could”, “probably”, “seeming” tells us you are pretty much writing this with zero facts to substantiate it. Why don’t you just write the article with phrases like “I think that…” or “I believe that…”? It might hold more credibility than people reading this thinking that you have it out for him in some passive aggressive”

  93. stoogy says: Jan 6, 2012 12:06 PM

    The Palmer trade was a good one he is the best QB there for 10 years since gannon and he will be able to get a full off season with the team and become and elite QB in the league we have some of the best young WR in the legue keep working hard DHB I loved what you did this year and working hard with CP3 and Moore and ford will make this offence unstoppable..

  94. methomas48 says: Jan 6, 2012 12:08 PM

    Several problems with Oakland. It is loaded with guys who are better athletes than football players. It is a poorly coached team setting records for most penalties in a season, sorry that is all coaching. Also it is a low IQ team. Prime example the pass Palmer threw last game before half time, to a guy mid field who had no chance to get out of bounds to stop the clock. McKenzie would be a step in the right direction.

  95. ron69 says: Jan 6, 2012 12:13 PM

    I just don’t get all the hate to Jackson the man just did what anyone would have done and that is try to save his job after losing his starting qb, let’s face it he had no options at the time. Let’s give Palmer another season then you can trash all you want Hue.
    Palmer >Cambell>Orton.

  96. war27 says: Jan 6, 2012 12:13 PM

    Lack of production? Try watching some games and less ESPN.

    You don’t give up #1′s for aging players. Wait until you see what the Colts are going to get offered for Manning. It’s going to make the palmer trade look like it was for two 5ths.

  97. snnyjcbs says: Jan 6, 2012 12:21 PM

    “Further, Robery Gallery was healthy most of the season, Zach Miller started to work his way into the offense more as the line gelled and he was able to get into patterns more often, and given Carroll and Schneider have found guys like Kam Chancellor and Richard Sherman in the fourth and fifth round, we may just be finding another starter with the fifth and seventh we’re getting for Aaron Curry”.

    Did Gallery or Miller even play in the NFL this year? I think each player made the Pro Bowl with the Raiders once, hope they kept the Jersey because they will not be seeing that for the remainder of their time in Seattle. Gallery was HURT and missed many games in Seattle just as he did in Oakland while the Raiders O went from ranked 11th with them to 9th without them.

    When discussing the Great Secretariat one does not bring up the Cheap $2,000. Claimer running at some Bush Track in Washington. Seattle?, LOL

  98. joetoronto says: Jan 6, 2012 12:30 PM

    Gallery managed to play in 12 games this year, 12 last year and 6 in 09.

    Ya, things are really looking up, lol.

    Zach Miller only caught 25 balls, but he really fitting into the offense, lol.

  99. villa41 says: Jan 6, 2012 12:49 PM

    Do any of you who are trashing Carson Palmer and Hue Jackson watch the games? The Raider offense finished 9th in yards overall, and this is without the best player on the team (McFadden) for over half the season and most of its top receivers in and out of the line up all season. Carson Palmer came off the couch and passed for over 3,ooo yards without having ANY kind of offseason. The guy gave its best QB play since Rich Gannon hands down. Amazing, he was actually calling audibles at the line and getting the offense into the right play! The Raider offense will be scary with everybody back and healthy next season and with Palmer having a full offseason to work with receivers and learn the playbook.

    There is one reason Oakland did not make the playoffs and it had nothing to do with offense or special teams. The Raider defense was terrible. If the Raider defense had been even mediocre, then this team easily would have had 10 or 11 wins. The Raiders will go as far as the improvement on defense goes next season. It’s that simple.

  100. Chargers have no rings says: Jan 6, 2012 12:54 PM

    Gallery was HURT and missed many games in Seattle just as he did in Oakland while the Raiders O went from ranked 11th with them to 9th without them.

    *************************

    Correction – The Raiders Offense went from 6th to 16th. Who gives a rats @ss about yards per game, offense is points per game.

  101. radrntn says: Jan 6, 2012 1:11 PM

    oh even with playoffs on the horizon, raiders are in the spotlight. All i can say is lighten up. Hue is back next year. McKenzie will e hired, and the two will get along just fine, with the common goal of winning. Nothing wrong with the Palmer trade. He is the best Qb the raiders have had since Gannon. Lat game he threw for over 400 yards. What the raiders need is to get healthy, resign Bush, and get a Defensive coord.

  102. 420fan says: Jan 6, 2012 1:19 PM

    And Don’t be Shocked If PFT has Hacks as Journalist!

    Keep Hating, Cuz you don’t know Jack about Oakland.

    Never Have.

  103. snnyjcbs says: Jan 6, 2012 2:39 PM

    To the Seattle Fan that commented regarding Hue Jackson and Cable, Gallery and Miller.

    Raiders Ranked # 9 in NFL Total O, Seattle Ranked #28

    Raiders O Rushing Ranked #7 in NFL, Seattle Ranked #21

    Raiders O Passing Ranked #11 in NFL, Seattle Ranked #22

    Raiders O Line Ranked #5 in NFL, Seattle Ranked #29

    Raiders O Line allowed 25 Sacks, Seattle allowed 50 Sacks and 114 QB Hits

    Raiders TE Boss 28 catches 368 yards, 3 TD’s and 8 20+ yard plays, Seattle Miller 25 catches for 233 yards, 0 TD’s and costing Seattle elite TE Money while the Raiders have Boss at a bargain.

    Lets live in Reality my Friend, Hue Jackson Walks on Water next to your guy.

  104. thatstinks says: Jan 6, 2012 2:56 PM

    Are you really a GM if you don’t have authority over your head coach ? Go ahead and fire him . Hue Jackson seems like a loose cannon . If I were Mark Davis all I would ask is fire him when I’m out of town .

  105. efriedo says: Jan 6, 2012 3:44 PM

    Oh, and by the way, the Raiders will get compensatory picks for Gallery and Miller…So THANK YOU SEATLLE!

    They will be getting a third rounder for Namdi…

  106. jakethegrift says: Jan 6, 2012 4:33 PM

    Who does Hue Jackson think he is? No, really? This is what the Raiders needed, for the past 20 years. A GM brings more structure to the organization, and Hue must learn to deal with it. Did he really think just being a coach gives him empowerment in the front office? NO! He needs to get over himself, and coach to win games. Just win baby, without the female drama Hue Jackson has brought!

  107. varaider says: Jan 6, 2012 5:11 PM

    Just a fact for you “Hue is a control freak” or “wants more power” people…

    By “wanting more control” he was referring to the ability that just about EVERY Head Coach in the league has of HIRING HIS OWN STAFF!..

    Al Davis hand-picked every defensive coach on the team… So Hue is “power hungry” because he wants to hire his own ASSISTANTS and COORDINATORS? He’s a “control freak” because he want to have a say so in the players HE has to coach into HIS system???

    98% of this team was hand-picked by Al Davis… he had the final say on every thing that had to do with the Raiders…

    You folks are barking up the wrong tree thinking Hue wants more “executive control”… He simply want to hire his OWN coaches and have more input as far as WHO he has to COACH…

    ANY RAIDER FAN or anybody with any REAL knowledge of the Raiders already knows this…

    Nice try… smh

  108. ch8878 says: Jan 6, 2012 7:04 PM

    Were do you guys get 2 first round picks ?

    That was only if the Raiders make the AFC Championship its a 1st and then a 2nd the next year maybe a 3rd because they didn’t make the playoffs.

    Before you comment get your facts straight otherwise go crawl back in your hole.

  109. jimboslice208 says: Jan 6, 2012 7:18 PM

    Campbell went down for the season and Hue had to do something drastic. Enter Carson Palmer.

    My only question, shouldnt Hue be held accountable for having Boller as the backup QB?

    Hue has a more reliable back up, Raiders still miss the playoffs but at least they”d have a first rounder this year

  110. raider57 says: Jan 9, 2012 5:28 AM

    Give him 1 more year to prove himself. Let him focus on being the HC and nothing more. He brought Palmer in and Palmer feels comfortable with him because of their history together. Taking Jackson away would just make the situation worse. Give Palmer and the offense a full year to get some chemistry. Try to upgrade that left side of the o-line. The rest of the offense has potential and was obviously good enough for Palmer, just need chemistry(hopefully). Probably gonna lose Bush, so make sure the back up is ready like he was. Hopefully McFadden stays healthy, if not then I say trade him after the year because I’m pretty sure he becomes a free agent in 2. So trade him for some picks(or just trade him right now for a couple picks. Maybe a first rounder and try to get Trent Richardson?). Offense is young and looks promising. Except at a long term QB. But hey, worry bout now. The time is now. What happened, happened. Palmer will be here for at least 2 more years. If he really turns out to be the worst mistake then you end contracts and have a high draft pick again. Hopefully draft someone opposite of Russel. But the time is NOW. Seymour, janikowski, lechler, and Palmer all are ready for now. Give them the teammates they need to make it happen. Or else in about 3 years your going to be back at 2-14 and have another “re-building” year.

    Defense, ummm. Secondary was not very good. Backers were decent. D-line was very good when they wanted to be. Looked like they needed more conditioning. Defense was terrible in the 2nd half. They lost games , I believe, because they got tired. Condition them better. I think they have players for both 3-4 or 4-3. I think the line is built for 4-3. But backers for 3-4. In the 3-4, Wimbley could rush when they need it. So I think 3-4 is best jus because the backers couldn’t handle the 4-3. I don’t believe they NEED any upgrades at the line or backer positions(would be nice, but not a big issue). The D was pretty good at blitzing and takeaways. Secondary, ehh. Definetly need upgrades. Huff is decent, Giordan is underrated, Lito doesn’t have it anymore but nice vet to have, rookies can’t hang with elite receivers, and stanford routt, the biggest mistake the raiders did on defense was signing him to a contract. He is terrible, not good! they need to replace their corners. Leave huff, giordano as a role player in packages. But that secondary needs help. Not only players, but personel too. There were bright spots, but far more worse that showed the raiders D was not the best for certain opponents. Man on Calvin Johnson when the game is on the line and he killed already with deep passes? Fire bresnahan, fire Woodson, fire whoever you want Mckenzie. If your buddy Moss is truly someone you want with you, hire him as D-coordinator. And if Hue doesn’t work out next year, or even halfway through this year, promote him to HC. Being in whoever you want on D. Just sure up that secondary and make sure the coaches have that D in the best coverage for the situation. Doesn’t matter what your base defense is, you adjust to your opponents and the time.

    There needs to be more DISCIPLINE on this team!!! I am happy Hue said what he said after the game. As a player, I would be heated to hear my coach say that but I know it’s ultimately up to the players. Things need to change. Too many penalties, punish people for penalties, might sound stupid but you have tried everything. This team needs more discipline. You set records for it, you have nothing to lose. Try everything you can to fix the penalties situation.

    As much as I want Gruden back, I doubt he will. Plus, thinking about that super bowl makes me hate him a little.

    It seems like with the hiring of Reggie Mckenzie the Raider tradition, style, swagger, atmosphere, Al Davis’ Raiders, it seems like all that is about to change. As a true fan, I don’t want to see it change. As bad as the Raiders are, as stupid as they can be, even if they had a 0-16 record, I am still proud to call myself a Raider fan. I am proud to be a part of that stupidness and ridiculous play. I am proud of every little bit the Raiders stand for. From the worst to the best, I am proud. But I am also tired of losing and being the example of “what not to be”. I wan to jus win baby again. Raider nation will never change, in our hearts. But do what you need to do to win Mckenzie. I am still young so I hope to see the Raiders be back to one of the elite teams like they used to be.

    And if Hue Jackson is fired, then I say fire everyone on the staff and trade Palmer for what you can get. Start fresh. Keep the young players who have potential. But other than that. Start a new team. A new era. Hopefully a winning one.

  111. raiderjames says: Jan 9, 2012 1:14 PM

    It’s laughable so many of you feel Hue’s biggest mistake was Palmer. If you got a flat tire in the middle of nowhere, would you pay $250 for a $75 tire? Or just walk 50 miles? What was he supposed to do, throw in the towel and start Boller? Pryor? Please. Yep, Palmer threw a lot of pics, to unproven receivers who couldn’t catch with their hands, mis ran routes, etc. Sure a few were entirely his fault, but that receiving core was raw and as fragile as china and he STILL averged 305 yards passing a game and played well in key games like Detroit and San Diego to win those games. Clearly Hue’s biggest mistakes were on the field terrible choices which cost his team wins, like the Detroit game. Throwing his team under the bus at season’s end was a HUGE no no as well. His ego was NOT his amigo. HE did plenty of good things with the offense and hopefully he and Palmer get full seasons to prove their true worth. I think Carson Palmer, given the right weapons, consistent run game and protection, can still be an elite qb. Can’t WAIT til next season.

  112. mrimperfect777 says: Jan 9, 2012 1:56 PM

    Hue should be fired and gruden hired now that would be surprising

  113. docbates6100 says: Jan 10, 2012 2:24 PM

    Its not the Palmer trade that should get Hue fired as much as it is his lack of control over Chuck Bresnahan’s thunderdome mook-like running of the defense. Also, the other HUGE reason for Jackson to be let go is his running of the offensive line. I mean he ran the o-line with the effectiveness of Roseanne Barr after a three day bender. How could he not see that the running game was SO MUCH BETTER when Satele was injured and Wisniewski was starting.
    You can’t blame that on taking a chance like the Palmer trade.
    You can’t blame it on Chuck Bresnahan.
    It was simple, black-and-white, number’s don’t lie, hard truth facts!!
    It happened toward the beginning of the season, and then it happened again!! around week 9. Satele went down with an injury, the running game improved. Satele came back from the injury, and the running game went back to being a lame duck. Despite cries from the press and the fans to make the change, Jackson was too stubborn for his own good.
    And THAT is why Hue Jackson needs to go.

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