Half a minute out of their day when they aren’t picking their noses, farting, or trying desperately to get drunk on sewer-water beer.

I am so sorry your envy has got you down and out. I am sure there are many fat people where you live too. I bet most of them stink worse then you. The last time I picked my nose, I flung it out across the room to a pile of garbage where I saw you were eating from. When I last farted, you came out. And boy oh boy, that last beer I drank was awesome. Go Packers !

I know reading comprehension isn’t a strength of Packer fans, but try to stay with me here smedley.

beedubyatoo started by attacking another city, as is common amongst Packer fans, and then started in with the championships. Again this is common with Packers fans; big talk about championships & trophies (which it’s okay to be proud, just not to act lik a jerk, which too many do). So if you’re going to start comparing cities and talking championships, then let’s talk championships smedley. Of course Packer fans don’t want to go there because they don’t have anything more than football, so you smedley want to limit it to the NFL. Sorry, but if you’re going to talk about cities then you have to talk about championships in all sports. And there smedley, you’re city’s trophy case would fill about a third of New York’s, like it or not.

I’m also quite sure you don’t even realize that the New York Yankees actually played professional football.

Rodgers had NO bad games.

10/16 – Brees 29/45 383 yds 1 TD; 3 INT as you lose to the 4-12 Bucs

10/30 – Brees 30/44 269 yrd 1 TD; 2 INT as you lose to the 2- 14 Rams.

Rodgers didn’t have ANY bad games. Rodgers led his team to the top seed. Brees laid in egg against two crap teams and as a result, earned his team playing time this weekend.

His coach’s desire to keep throwing into the record books does not an MVP make. Nor does a long standing record that three guys came close to. And a fourth would have hit if he were played like Brees.

If Rodgers threw as much as Brees, he’d have over 6,000 yds.”

I’m a Bree’s fan and Roger’s Hater, but you make a good argument. Either way I vote for Bree’s because I’m biased. As a matter of fact I’ll vote Brady 2nd. I hate Rogers.

Again, Brees is an amazing player who had an amazing year, but I think Aaron Rodgers was just a bit better.

@ mushroomcloudlayin…

Dude seriously. Drew Brees was the most efficient QB in the league and broke his own record. Another idiot on these boards i see. So he was the most efficient as well as the most yards. Aaron Rodgers passer rating was higher…get it straight guy.

Second off everyone says ow brees threw it more that’s how he got the obvious yards. Well wouldn’t throwing it more mean you’re more prone to having less efficiency. I mean if you miss 2 or 3 passes out of 10 your numbers will be worse that if you miss 2 or 3 out of 100. But again, you educated fellas on here have it all figured out though. We unedumacated southerners in Louisiana just chase alligators around and scream choot em whilst also walking around barefoot and robbing people?

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Dude, seriously. Ratios and Passer Rating are indications of efficiency per throw – in which Rodgers has better numbers than Brees. V

I’m not trying to cheapen Brees’ accomplishments, but to me it’s second best this season.

I have absolutely nothing against Drew Brees, the Saints or anyone from Louisiana – Nawlins is probably my favorite American city to visit. Nor do I think Saints fans are idiots, just passionate homers like ALL THE REST OF US.

Still, you should make sure your premises make logical sense before you call someone else an idiot.

86 catches, 710 yards, 8.3 yards per reception, 8.4 YAC average

The statistics cited for him are correct. He almost ALWAYS receives the ball behind the line of scrimmage. That is the only possible way to have more YAC than yards, which he does. Source: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7306.

For his CAREER, he averages 9.1 yards per reception (which means he averaged more in SD than NO), and for his CAREER, he averages 9.6 YAC average.

Again, to those who just refuse to believe facts – look them up before spouting out assanine views that aren’t grounded in reality.

Rodgers had NO bad games.

10/16 – Brees 29/45 383 yds 1 TD; 3 INT as you lose to the 4-12 Bucs

10/30 – Brees 30/44 269 yrd 1 TD; 2 INT as you lose to the 2- 14 Rams.

Rodgers didn’t have ANY bad games. Rodgers led his team to the top seed. Brees laid in egg against two crap teams and as a result, earned his team playing time this weekend.

His coach’s desire to keep throwing into the record books does not an MVP make. Nor does a long standing record that three guys came close to. And a fourth would have hit if he were played like Brees.

If Rodgers threw as much as Brees, he’d have over 6,000 yds.

Any bad games. I guess KC doesn’t count. Rodgers was horrific in that game.

Brees set more records in 1 game (Not game 16), than Rodgers will have in his career.
MVP is a joke!
NFL magazine had it right. Manning deserved it more Cheap Double Hack.

Since YAC means yards after the catch, it would mean out of the 86 receptions Sproles had, Brees threw the ball a total of only three yards in the air. That would be a lot of swing & screen passes that he’s catching before the line of scrimmage. But since I’ve seen him catch at least one pass inwhich the ball was over three yards in the air, this YAC stat can’t be accurate.

rexismybff says:
Jan 6, 2012 2:18 PM
A whole bunch of fat, smelly Wisconsins are doing the discount double check right about now.

Half a minute out of their day when they aren’t picking their noses, farting, or trying desperately to get drunk on sewer-water beer.

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From your screen name, I’m assuming that you live in the New York area or are a Jets fan. I can say this with 100% certainty. I’ve been to New York and I’ve been to Green Bay. Green Bay is better. At least it’s an American city with clean streets, good schools, real patriotic Americans and the best football fans.

Oh, and did I mention that the Packers have 12 more NFL championships than the Jets?

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You really don’t want to start getting into a championship counting contest with a New Yorker. The Packers don’t even make it half way to the Yankees’ total. And that doesn’t include the Mets, the Jets, the Giants, the Islanders, the Rangers & Knicks.

I guess Green Bay isn’t Title Town after all.

And Fran has zero championships. Great comparison, son, maybe you should take your own advice.

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What does that have to do with someone being better at QB (or any position for that matter) than another?

You Packer fans crack me up. That’s your answer to everything – “championships!” As if that’s what determines if a player is great or not.

But you guys go on supporting each other even when one of you makes an embarrassing statement like the one saying your back-up QB, starting all of two games, is better than three Hall Of Famers, three Super Bowl winners and anthor four that started @ QB in the SB. Not to mention another handful of highly accomplished QBs.

It’s sad really…

Wherever he goes, I have every confidence that he will adapt to the new system and do just fine. He won’t put up last week’s numbers regularly – that was a once in a lifetime game – but he’ll be solid. Not so confident in the third string QB, he hasn’t been very good thus far. But hopefully they can develop him as well as they developed the last two backups.

Another snub: Mason Crosby for kicker. He’s been very dependable and broken several franchise records this year – most of them his own. Can’t he even get a couple of votes?

Half a minute out of their day when they aren’t picking their noses, farting, or trying desperately to get drunk on sewer-water beer.
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Sounds like you’ve got issues that go well beyond a football board.

Some dude says that it isn’t a runaway race for Rodgers, and yet he received 48.5 votes out of 50 possible.

Clearly people who know a lot more about the ins and outs of football think Rodgers is better than Brees.

Perhaps that should tell you something.

Perhaps your opinion is rather stupid.

Half a minute out of their day when they aren’t picking their noses, farting, or trying desperately to get drunk on sewer-water beer.

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I am not fat, and I don’t like Miller beer. Other than that…sounds about right.

As far as your “smelly” charge – I assume you are from New Orleans, the whole downtown of which is essentially one huge open sewer? Hi there, kettle, have you met pot?

janikowski and lechler were shafted. they are both respectively the best at their positions. the niners winning this year is the only reason akers and lee were first team all pro over them

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True Raider moron homerism at it’s finest. Yeah let’s just toss out the facts like Akers and Lee both broke all time NFL records this year and were statistically superior. Here’s your sign genius

Rodgers loss to the chiefs….pretty bad team in an of itself. if the rolls were reversed packers fans you would be saying the same things us Saints fans are. I have news for you though, you guys aren’t making it back to the super bowl again this year. I wouldn’t be shocked if you lose in the divisional round

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The Chiefs were 7-9, didn’t the Saints give the Rams one of their 2 wins this season? And the Bucs one of their 4 wins?

Come on , now.

Let’s see, I’m trying to figure out this symbol stuff. I’ll give it a try
Flynn>Brees=Over-rated+dumb=loser

Nobody bring it up?

Why?

Brees will easily get the SB MVP this year. Fact.

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Only if Rodgers loans it to him. Seriously, if Brees were to win SB MVP he wouldn`t get the car because Payton would probably take it to bed-like he did with the SB trophy.

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What are you talking about? Brees is 122.4 at home, 100.7 on the road. A 100.7 career passer rating would put you second in NFL history. Heck, even 90 on the road would be considered elite. Maybe we’re getting spoiled here, but don’t start thinking 100 is garbage.

You’re right in that Brees is much better at home, but we’re talking hall-of-fame level at home vs elite level on the road. Nit-picking.

no he didn’t. check the stats bud. lechler averaged 51.1 yards per punt in 2009. lechler still holds the record

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That’s the stat for just plain kicking the ball — that just means Lechler kicks it farther than anyone else. Lee set the record for Net Average, which means field position. MUCH more meaningful stat. It’s efficiency and quality of work.

Drew Brees is a COMPLETELY different (and worse) QB outdoors (and the same is true even in domes on the road).
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i Know since 2009 Drew is 18-6 on the road…It only leads the NFL with the best road record since 2009….just awful. Rodgers is the best QB to EVER play the NFL…LMFAO,Rodgers is a great QB,an IMO So is Brees
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We’re talking this year, not 2009. But you are right, his numbers @STL and @TB (two juggernaut teams if I ever saw one) were OUTSTANDING….I give up, you are the swami of football.

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The argument deals with how Sproles affects Brees’ stats. I agree that those plays work well and the Saints should use them all day long, but if you’re arguing that Brees should get credit for Sproles breaking screen passes, then you’re clearly a homer. Honestly, screen passes should be counted as running plays (or at least the ones that have the QB throwing backwards to the back). I have no idea why they’re not. I’ve always questioned that.

BTW, I’m a die-hard Pack fan, and hated Favre as soon as he started with the retirement games. Honestly, he came across as humble for a long long time. As soon as he left and tried to come back, throwing management under the bus, it was all Rodgers for me. He had his issues back in the day, but if someone wanted to get on his case about his Vicodin addiction, that was on them. Personally, I’m not an angel, so that wasn’t my place.

Drew Brees is a COMPLETELY different (and worse) QB outdoors (and the same is true even in domes on the road).
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i Know since 2009 Drew is 18-6 on the road…It only leads the NFL with the best road record since 2009….just awful. Rodgers is the best QB to EVER play the NFL…LMFAO,Rodgers is a great QB,an IMO So is Brees